it’s insane that most exotics don’t have the power equivalent of an Aspect, when an exotic like Syntho and HoiL is worth a whole class identity, or Stronghold turning a low utility weapon feature like Sword blocking into immunity
Synthoceps is quite literally the only thing making Titan as an entire class even remotely viable and that is just depressing. There used to be a few more options like HOIL, Wormgod Caress, or Peregrine when it worked with 1-2 punch and freeze melee damage boost but now they’ve been made useless or very underwhelming by nerfs. I really hope that rather than nerfing Synthoceps and making Titan obsolete in all PvE activities, they severely buff the 30+ Exotics that are nearly useless in all scenarios and make the class have more diversity in its builds and play styles.
@@TheAegisRelic It's so accurate and it hurts. I'm waiting for a break in work to see where my old standbys Phoenix Cradle go. Not good, I'm sure, but I loved those things back when Sunspots had a weapon damage boost.
@@TheAegisRelic Ik they fucking butchered everything on titan, path of burning steps? Dead. Fun synthoglaive build? Dead. Peregrines in pve? Dead. Wormgod? Lmao. Suspend? Dead. Consecration? Neutered post elemental wells. Void? mid asf. Bonk and banner of war are the only things making titans viable in endgame and I fear that they will soon get absolutely destroyed by a huge synthoceps nerf in final shape where nothing else on the class will get buffed making titans effectively useless. Worst of all their solution is to "rework" exotics by adding a shitty surge damage boost onto them which literally does not help at all and is boring as fuck.
I totally get that this is "Ultra Endgame armor for Actually Skilled(tm) Players", but seeing Lorley at F tier still throws me for a loop. But I mean, I can't argue, you're not wrong. Any Titan worth their salt will just keep restoration loops going with their bonk hammer, Lorley is only a free safety net for the lesser skilled.
i used it to do my solo Spire, i would pop barricade manually before a boss fight to get resto and throw a hammer for radiant, having an on demand sunsp[ot for resto at your feet and not where an enemy is, is useful IMO, i would say low C teir defiently not F teir below kepris@@TheAegisRelicedit: also used it during day 1 crota, when i was using the sword due to the fact i didnt have accessto my abilities (outside of grenade), and anytime i got low it would proc and give resto so i wouldnt die with sword
Think it actually has a place in the game, not saying it is good or anything, but I would personally put it in high C-Tier. The definition of a situational exotic. The exotic provides way more than anything in D- & F-Tier. There are several raid encounters, where u need to stay on a plate and just can’t push up to the enemies. And I think that’s the situation where Loreley shines. I actually busted out my Loreley for day one crotas on the bridge encounter, to solo kill the swordbearer on the other side + to it helped aswell staying alive on the plate. Synthos were completely useless in that encounter, since there were only red bars you’d kill with your hammer regardless and u killed the champs from a far anyway/if u let them get too close they could one hit u, regardless of restoration, so just having the restoration on demand/passive ability Regen, was quite nice Another situation where I used Loreley in lightfall was in my solo flawless GOTD run on the final boss, I was doing dps with surrounded briars and swapped to Loreley for dps, which helped staying alive being in close proximity to these acolytes. These are some very very situational examples, but I think these kind of scenarios justify the exotic being atleast in low to mid C-Tier. I definitly use Loreley more often than anything else in the C- to F-Tier, excluding dunes.
Been telling everyone I think Loreley is a cruch exotic for the longest time. Sure when it gave you res x2 it was busted, but res x1 is just not worth it, and especially not on solar that already shts out sunspots to an extreme degree. but everyone I talk to calls me crazy when I say its a shitty exotic and tells me its an A tier maybe even S tier exotic.
@@TwinGamer64 100% not an A- or S-Tier exotic, but also not an F-Tier one, completely obsolete if u are able to utilize the full solar subclasses potential, but in rare occasions Loreley is very helpful.
I think what makes Titan builds so boring right now, is that the only S tier exotics are subclass neutral, which makes all builds fit into one of three categories: melee everything, spam abilities, or be immortal with sword block. It's honestly rather depressing how anytime Titans get a strong exotic that is subclass-specific, it inevitably gets hit hard with nerfs. It's honestly really annoying to me that the only exotic my Titan (main class) has used this season are Synthoceps, with the occasional swap to Lion Rampants or Pyrogale Gauntlets. There are plenty of other exotics I'd love to use, but the problem is I hate actively hurting myself by using them.
For anyone curious at how Loreley used to be: Loreley's was released pre-Solar 3.0, when Sunspots still gave you a damage buff (it was 20% and nerfed to 15% percent at one point if my memory serves), on top of that it would add a standard healing effect as Solar keywords weren't a thing yet. On top of an on demand sunspot with a barricade cast, it also guaranteed a Sunspot spawn when hitting critical, no class ability charge required.
This whole tier list aside, I’m very happy to hear you mention how undervalued Phoenix Cradle can be. It truly is just an interesting exotic that fills a niche for us support titans and even though it’s not the best in the business it’s certainly not the worst. Awesome video!
Honestly the only change bungie needs to make, to make phoenix cradle an S-tier exotic, is by giving us a new class ability where we spawn a sunspot, that way we can reliably spawn a sunspot that heals teammates in a DPS window, and give them that juicy ability regen, and super extender. and by doing that they could finally rework Lorely for the 7th time.
I think if the sunspots were colored differently for teammates so they know you have it on, would be a great change. People are trained to ignore sunspots because they see them on their screen but have "never" done anything for them so why would they randomly run to them now
@@Erelyn1 there is that, also the sunspots doesn't last for very long if noone is standing in it, so most of the time the other players can't even get to the sunspot before it disappears, so maybe make it so the phoenix cradle also extends the lifetime of a sunspot.
Abeyant leap was underrated just because of the woven mail imo. I like to use leap basically instead of into the fray, so i get both drengr's lash and woven mail
another big advantage to Lancecap is that it creates Crystals meaning more chaining of the Grenade energy fragment, and the barricade portion allows for Diamond Lance creation without the aspect (but you usually want that extra fragment slot anyway on stasis)
it's definitely a high value exotic, only held back by being hyper-defensive in an aggressive meta. I defs enjoy using it in pve like GMs when chilling with friends, but wouldn't chuck it on if running with lfg or in hyper end-game situations
@@FettuccineAllaGay just had a cool idea: "diamond lances always generate next to you and spawn crystals wherever they land. rapid precision hits and stasis weapon kills generate a diamond lance while behind a rally barricade or near a stasis crystal." Or replace the "next to a stasis crystal" with "slamming the diamond lance creates crystals around you consuming melee energy"
Stronghold was literally the only reason I rarely died on challenge mode Bride, even without the restoration it's pretty much makes you invincible in team play.
I’m glad you put Cadmus in C tier. Most people wrote it off as complete stinky poopoo garbage as soon as it came out, but it really *can* work if you’re willing to play at the speed of an amoeba on downers. Its only MOSTLY stinky poopoo garbage.
@@buckledwheat6299 Yeah, I’ve certainly had a lot of fun with it, myself. I’m not impressing anyone with it, but its generally capable. If nothing else, it encourages a unique playstyle that few other exotics can sustain.
They should make Wormgod refresh the timer on melee hits, but still require melee kills to increase the stacks. That way you could build up to higher damage than synthos before damage and maintain it. Side note I miss running Wormgod + Python + middle tree hammers in Season 9 😭
It's kinda sad how titan exotics are. We only have a couple of S tiers but those S tiers are very very good. But everything else is like B tier. Vs warlock where they have a ton of S and A tiers but very few are extremely strong S tiers.
i swear the new exotics that warlocks and hunters have been getting like cenotaph / briarbinds / mothkeepers / radiant dance machines / necrotic grip just seem more unique edit: this may be just titan cope but i bet there’s 0 warlock or hunter mains that think throwable barricade or sunspot barricade or skin barricade or suspend barricade or ice spear barricade or fortnite barricade are “cool” exotics
@@Mozini01 I mean yeah I get what you mean but at least this last round of exotics was good for every class. But I agree barricade exotics kinda suck except for abeyant. Someday khepris will get a crazy buff making it meta.
@@x9x9x9x9x9after all the trouble kephri’s has caused with glitches over the past couple seasons, it has gotten the Telesto treatment. Which is to say, Bungo is tired of it breaking the game and would be vaulted if they could 😂
I think they can Revert the Loreleys Nerf now - Just make it so it only works on Tower Barricade and Not Rally Barricade because it's on a longer timer
A really stupid setup for 20+ under lvl clears is a enhanced energy transfer sword + stronghold + Bastion + Bulwark + bubble where loop is throw grenade, get overShield from barricade for grenade recharge, then block with sword for class ability, Infinite loop, and then bubble if you ever mess up/have downtime for whatever reason, as it gives you a full grenade charge + overshield to start loop again
The thing too is I don't want synthos nerfed but rather some others increased even slightly to be able to compete. Just too many fun builds with synthos.
Phoenix Cradle extends the super duration of roaming supers of ally’s as well, unless I’m mistaken you can pair Chaos Reach with it to get extra long Kamehameha
Other than my comments on Loreley, hearing you gush over Stronghold is really validating LOL. I didn't pay attention to that exotic at all until last season, but it does SO much. I'm also a little more interested in trying Ashen Wake, though I've been kinda PVP-brained trying to figure out how to actually use it (it's a full refresh on Guardian kill, but only 130 damage, so basically a cleanup tool unless you manage to stack x3 Roaring Flames). Looking at it through a PVE lens, yeah, I can see how it'd come up, especially as an additional means to operate double special in conjunction with throwing hammer.
I have been a stronghold main since beyond light. I love that it's finally not just a niche option. It's always hilarious when I'm in a GM using a sword and other randoms are you know surprised what the heck are you doing and then when someone gets down and I just walk up guarding and just revive them getting blasted from every side like it's most normal thing in the world and they're like what the hell are you doing. That's my Titan power fantasy.
The only UA-camr I agree with and trust when it comes to things like this most of the time, other UA-camrs just have no idea what they’re talking about sometimes I swear
Upcoming Peregrine Greaves buff giving it more damage and refunding your whole melee charge against champs (and minibosses i think). I can't wait to try it! But syntho/banner of war still exists
I miss contest mode/master mode Golgoroth attempts where I literally had to swap off Loreley to wipe because the boss couldn't kill me. That had to go LMAO Currently Loreley would fit way better in a sandbox closer to, like, a Beyond Light GM where you're trying to go slow and steady and make as few mistakes as possible, where if you get tagged by a scorn crossbow for like 190 damage or something, you're basically useless until you recover every single point of that health--and you're less likely to be able to run up to your sunspots and get restoration that way. I think that's really the key--Loreley drops the sunspot at your feet, so in a situation where enemies are so threatening that you will likely get killed trying to even get to your first sunspot, it gives you a way to proc restoration not reliant on doing that. In the current sandbox, there are basically zero of those situations, so I'd be coping hard if I were wearing it over HOIL or whatever, but describing the effect as a "net negative" doesn't really sit well with me, especially given your comments on other exotics that PVE barricade is often not that useful.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Loreley is by no means the best exotic for titans, but to say it's worse than using no exotic at all is going a bit too far. It could sit pretty comfortably in C-tier imo.
I think this list help me understand why I recently switched back to warlock after a season main on Titan. I really liked the tank fantasy with stronghold but there isn’t enough diversity
My biggest issue with POBS is the fact that it doesn't work with Time Dilation. If it had that it would be an A tier for me. The reason why is on Solar Titan you can easily proc Radiant which is a 25% buff that stacks either POBS 25%. If you slap on Target Lock or any other damage increase on a gun your already adding more firepower to the gun. I think it's underrated imo.
i do agree that loreley is really not needed on solar when you can make sunspots aplenty via sol invictus, but the thing i never see anybody talk about is how loreley enables you to use all 3 aspects on solar; sunspot via loreley, and just equip consecration + roaring flames. you can put on empyrean to extend restoration from your loreley sunspot, and it frees up your grenade slot if you wanted to use something other than healing nade (i would still recommend healing nade though) this isn't game changing or anything, but it's really nice to know since consecration has really high damage if you need to just nuke something.
But u need to be on stasis, the worst titan subclass by a lot. Aswell as there are so many other ways to get armor charge easily, think a high C-Tier placement is fair. Also the exotic is basically never ever used in endgame.
Looking forward to hunter and warlock. Great videos man you are probably the best endgame d2 channel I’ve come across since I started playing in black armory 💯
19:00 Banner shield is really good in GMs. Things like the plate in glassway or the shield generator in proving grounds come to mind when thinking about good uses for it. Any room filled to the brim with enemies like the beginning of Disgraced are worth mentioning too, which is essentially 50% of what GM’s are. The super also generates tons of orbs and can be used to guarantee multiple revives if you’re the last guardian standing, since you’re literally invincible from the front. Makes for easy clutches if things go wrong. All of this plus the damage buff to allies makes it a good super in boss encounters for obvious reasons. Not as much of a brain-dead crutch as Well of Radiance, but still very good. Especially if most of your friends aren’t Warlock mains. The one thing that sometimes makes it better than Well is because it’s mobile, which brings me to the point I made earlier about free revives in case things go wrong. Don’t sleep on the shield 😤
DFP is the offensive counterpart to the defensive Ursa Furiosa. If anything, Ursa should buff the damage buff, while DFP gives you +50% or better damage on the super attacks itself to put it up to par with Synthos boosted Sentinel Shield. They both return you super energy but in different playstyles, so there's nothing to change there given the restrictions they placed on super refund exotics a while ago.
I will say strongholds have served me well in GM environments w lament and a team of friends in coordinating with. Took some getting used to after the change to them was a somewhat nerf: that timed block heal to full was insane. Though now that the restoration is fixed and banner of war exists they're in a much easier to use spot while still being very powerful.
Honestly, Mask of the Quiet One is an exotic that makes Touch of Malice more viable in stuff where the extra damage matters. You’d probably have to pair it with devour and that fragment that gives you an overshield when killing things while low health to not feel on edge all the time, but paired with the ToM buffs, there’s build potential there. Giving you an extra boost to all your abilities from taking damage by enemies is a nice bonus as well. The exotic isn’t D-tier imo, but being that niche, it deserves a kind of rework. It doesn’t feel very exotic when you can get the same effects without it.
I think something forgotten about Abeyant Leap is that you can get Woven Mail with having the aspect equipped so you can have quite a variety of options all at once.
52:00 Synthoceps: How is this good for raiding and end game? I have a 90 resilience build and am dead within 3 seconds if I step out into the open in a raid or even a strike. The idea of punching anything pretty much got out of my head as soon as the campaign ended.
Pretty solid rankings, definitely agree with synthos and strongholds. Stronghold is just insane with the DR, and synthos... well, it's self-explanatory.
"They do deserve a nerf." You shut your mouth, Aegis! Synthos are the only thing that keep me as a Titan main, I'd probably quit playing Titan entirely if they were useless.
55:18 Ngl, this kinda hurts. Cause we just had this situation come up with the Witness. But they made sure that it’s attacks bypass the shield so it’s pointless. I understand why, cause cheesing the day 1 with that would be slightly anticlimactic. But it would have given titan a niche in that fight, and a use in flawless runs.
Armamentarium is a go to exotic. Especially with stasis titan. Doubles up the crystal grenade so more smash more regen more damage more smash paired with the reworked header stasis grenade launcher exotic, it just chokes the field with crystals.
I’ve actually consistently used Icefall mantles in ONE situation only in this game. That being momentum control on widows court sitting at the church with bubble and jade rabbit. 💀
I don’t use Loreley often and I think it’s not that great of an exotic (only time I used it in this expansion was for day one Crotas on bridge, I was the first one to cross and killed the guy solo and for my solo flawless gotd as a swappable for dps to stay alive) but in situations where it forces u to stay in place and a res has a ton of value (where u would play a little bit more defensively)Loreley is still a decent overall exotic. Also getting a sunspot for just casting your barricade gives u a bunch of ability energy if u just stand in it for the whole duration. Don’t think it’s F, more like C-Tier, definitly better than anything in D- or F-Tier. Like if u had the choice between Loreley and Khepris Horn or Mask of the quiet one. I’d choose Loreley all day long, I’d probably even choose it over a lot of C-Tier exotics honestly.
Enclosure with the invis/volatile finisher build operates quite well in high lvl content, as you can get one minor low, finish, which gets all the other minors to finishable hp, then after finishing one any knight/wizard lvl enemy is finishable, and the whole time you are invis, on titan
I've actually seen that build in play and while it is cool it's a lot less productive than just killing the enemies normally (and also forces you to replace your gameplay loop, not augment it)
Great tier list! Thanks for this work. I only have one disagreement regarding the Actium War Rig. That chest enables a never-reloading build with the Thunderlord + catalyst, in my raid runs I’m always doing 4-5kk damage in bosses like Nezarec, Ir Yut and Taniks using this combo. It’s extremely useful on that matter and puts me in the top DPS of the group every time. (Combined with eventual Thundercrash and a divinity in the team, of course) I believe it should be a B given how strong LMGs are right now. Sometimes I use it for solo dungeon runs with the Heir Apparent too, makes you feel like an unbeatable terminator destroying everything on its path 😂
I use Dunemarchers for Taniks Duos for the extra slide distance when picking up a bomb. It’s especially good when comboing with a Cryoclasm Slide. I’m not sure if you count niche things like this into account, but as far as I know, most players use Dunemarchers for Taniks lowmans.
Thoughts on, perhaps, the Eternal Warrior swap for 4x arc surge, into No Backup Plans with Acrius? You can do 3x kinetic surge and have the surge and shotgun bonuses for all of your weapons in a swap rotation solo
Been using ACD/0 Feedback Fence all season. Basically free melee, surge activation at any time and free jolt. Combine with Woven Mail at 6 stacks you simply don't die at CQC. The damage resistance stacks (60% from WM, 80% from ACD and in my case I use Vexcalibur for the free Void Overshield and extra 45% DR). Loving it more than Synthoceps (don't get me wrong Synthos is better still for Endgame).
question for eternal warrior is, if you can switch to t-crash after your fist of havoc ended but you keep the surge. that would actually be dope. and it would be even better if you can get the surge to last long enough for you to swap to cuirass and back.
Helm of Saint 14 works with the titan exotic glaive so you can get some of those benefits without using your super. The rework next season might bring it back up since the glaive bubble gives a lot more benefits.
but right now you already don't need the helmet of saint14 to get the overshield while outside of the glaive bubble. So what benefit would the helmet give?
Honestly, as a warlock main, the DoomFang will be better in Final Shape with that new Twilight Axe super. At least then for offensive players in Endgame, they'll have something that helps the team and causes high burst damage on throwing the super. Still, its weird seeing things you'd think be viable in endgame be ranked differently, but that's the life of endgame players who know where the benefits/negatives lie. Cheers as always!
Watching this video a day before act 3 releases in episode 1, wondering if this list is still up to date or is outdated with buffs/nerfs + the release of Prismatic (I know the Meta is ability focused right now but as a Warlock main trying to get his titan a chance, it'd be nice to know if everything here is still valid or not, if not would it be a good idea if you remake the video for all 3 classes? From me looking through it I didn't saw anything about it)
As a casual player who doesn't pay for much content, I love Doomfang because I just enjoy the Super itself, the funnest roaming one on Titan I think. But if I even touch even a Nightfall, I go right to Syntho Solar.
I dunno, Loreley saved my ass on the final encounter of solo GOTD, and Second chance + Monte Carlo was keeping me alive through a large chunk of my groups Day 1 Crota completions. This information is definitely useful and you do an excellent job overall on your content, but I think the explanations give the impression that the lower tiers are useless. Maybe that's just my perspective, but I think there's definitely a lot more wiggle room for the lower tier exotics, especially for someone like me who likes to buildcraft and do high-level content, but isn't going to min-max every little thing to squeeze more DPS out for low-man and speedrun situations.
Personally, Lorely is where is belongs, ever since all the nerfs it got, it’s not worth using. If you’re on point you never even get it to proc which isn’t hard at all as Solar Titan isn’t hard to play.
The gap between how well the nerf to heart of inmost light was handled and how awfully they nerfed starfire is so funny to see I haven’t seen starfire used since the nerf, but heart is still very solid.
Star fire isn't bad just over shadowed now Before the nerf it didn't increase ur dps if ur rocket dumping anyways just extended ur damage. It's still useful jus for that extended damage just to a lesser extent
Because warlocks have substitutes like sunbracers for solar specifically, titan doesnt have a single subdtitute to heart lmao. Dogshit exotics all around.
Starfire is very viable for content that requires chunky addclear and stuff where you cant do ghorn Spam. Basically boils down to carrying gms when done with lfg or so. The Rotation is No longer, place emp rift and apply DOT. Its an actual build now that cycles abilities very Well still. It goes as follows: Run starfire, Touch of Flame, Long range melee, Double Bomber +distribution/outreach, a melee Kickstart and Impact induction, ember of torches, benevolence, singeing and searing. Its a Lot more but basically this allows you to with every Grenade throw to generate melee Energy, on Kills completely refill your class Energy which in Turn charges your grenades, your melee (which in Turn charges your grenades) and Provide benevolence for more ability recharge rate. The Goal is to have high benevolence uptime and Support that with periodic cooldown decreases/resets with ability activations, starfire and subclass perks. You will have high Radiant uptime and proc cure a Lot and thats Not even mentioning that you get Well relatively fast with Double ashes. All in all very potent for dealing a Lot of damage in gms, however unfortunately cenotaph exists so or gets overshadowed massively in more optimized groups.
Late comment but pyrogale is extremely potent with dragons breath for season of the wish. Works very well for grounded and slower bosses, especially with the seasonal artifacts
@TheAegisRelic I’ve been attempting a solo flawless sotw but damage has been real tuff on the first boss what should I use (void Hunter with no cataclysmic or briars btw)
Bruh I just did a build with eternal warrior and trinity ghoul that shit is actually crazy. Literally god mode add clear that 30 sec refreshable buff with ANY arc kill is perfect synergy with trinity’s perc
They don't do the same thing, and if you listen to the MotQO section, I explicitly talk about how the heal effect is inconsequential - the on damage received regen is what makes it better
I agree with your take on Icefall mantle though I think the free x4 surge bonus on popping the overshield is convenient for dps or just clearing content in general since every kill extends the x4 surge duration. With ager's scepter and whisper of refraction, it has a pretty low cooldown thanks for the wide freeze but that requires giving up an exotic and fragment slot. It's not great with mobile guns like smg or sidearms.
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you should make a tierlist ranking all the titan exotics for endgame PvE I think that would be really helpful
On it boss
Isn't it this video? If it's a joke, it's way over my head.
@@longps9528 no idea what video youre talking about
@@avo1dmeethis is a video? I thought it was a post
@@Kexis_Kell_of_Rhythmclearly a short
Bungie:"why won't you die!?"
Synthoceps:"nanomachines son! They harden in response when surrounded!"
Symbiotic Organism go brrrrr
it’s insane that most exotics don’t have the power equivalent of an Aspect, when an exotic like Syntho and HoiL is worth a whole class identity, or Stronghold turning a low utility weapon feature like Sword blocking into immunity
Synthoceps is quite literally the only thing making Titan as an entire class even remotely viable and that is just depressing. There used to be a few more options like HOIL, Wormgod Caress, or Peregrine when it worked with 1-2 punch and freeze melee damage boost but now they’ve been made useless or very underwhelming by nerfs. I really hope that rather than nerfing Synthoceps and making Titan obsolete in all PvE activities, they severely buff the 30+ Exotics that are nearly useless in all scenarios and make the class have more diversity in its builds and play styles.
Titans have been like "have one extremely OP thing and everything else is dogshit" for the past 2 years and it kinda hurts
@@TheAegisRelic It's so accurate and it hurts. I'm waiting for a break in work to see where my old standbys Phoenix Cradle go. Not good, I'm sure, but I loved those things back when Sunspots had a weapon damage boost.
@@TheAegisRelic Ik they fucking butchered everything on titan, path of burning steps? Dead. Fun synthoglaive build? Dead. Peregrines in pve? Dead. Wormgod? Lmao. Suspend? Dead. Consecration? Neutered post elemental wells. Void? mid asf. Bonk and banner of war are the only things making titans viable in endgame and I fear that they will soon get absolutely destroyed by a huge synthoceps nerf in final shape where nothing else on the class will get buffed making titans effectively useless. Worst of all their solution is to "rework" exotics by adding a shitty surge damage boost onto them which literally does not help at all and is boring as fuck.
All that said, Syntho's 100% need to be nerfed. A one hit melee champions even on master/GM is just way too strong, most supers can't even do that.
@@sQuaTsiFieDit's banner of war, not synthos. Synthos was never a problem post nerf and before BoW.
I totally get that this is "Ultra Endgame armor for Actually Skilled(tm) Players", but seeing Lorley at F tier still throws me for a loop. But I mean, I can't argue, you're not wrong. Any Titan worth their salt will just keep restoration loops going with their bonk hammer, Lorley is only a free safety net for the lesser skilled.
It's only not even a safety net it's literally an AFK exotic at this point haha
i used it to do my solo Spire, i would pop barricade manually before a boss fight to get resto and throw a hammer for radiant, having an on demand sunsp[ot for resto at your feet and not where an enemy is, is useful IMO, i would say low C teir defiently not F teir below kepris@@TheAegisRelicedit: also used it during day 1 crota, when i was using the sword due to the fact i didnt have accessto my abilities (outside of grenade), and anytime i got low it would proc and give resto so i wouldnt die with sword
Think it actually has a place in the game, not saying it is good or anything, but I would personally put it in high C-Tier. The definition of a situational exotic. The exotic provides way more than anything in D- & F-Tier.
There are several raid encounters, where u need to stay on a plate and just can’t push up to the enemies. And I think that’s the situation where Loreley shines.
I actually busted out my Loreley for day one crotas on the bridge encounter, to solo kill the swordbearer on the other side + to it helped aswell staying alive on the plate. Synthos were completely useless in that encounter, since there were only red bars you’d kill with your hammer regardless and u killed the champs from a far anyway/if u let them get too close they could one hit u, regardless of restoration, so just having the restoration on demand/passive ability Regen, was quite nice
Another situation where I used Loreley in lightfall was in my solo flawless GOTD run on the final boss, I was doing dps with surrounded briars and swapped to Loreley for dps, which helped staying alive being in close proximity to these acolytes.
These are some very very situational examples, but I think these kind of scenarios justify the exotic being atleast in low to mid C-Tier. I definitly use Loreley more often than anything else in the C- to F-Tier, excluding dunes.
Been telling everyone I think Loreley is a cruch exotic for the longest time.
Sure when it gave you res x2 it was busted, but res x1 is just not worth it, and especially not on solar that already shts out sunspots to an extreme degree.
but everyone I talk to calls me crazy when I say its a shitty exotic and tells me its an A tier maybe even S tier exotic.
@@TwinGamer64 100% not an A- or S-Tier exotic, but also not an F-Tier one, completely obsolete if u are able to utilize the full solar subclasses potential, but in rare occasions Loreley is very helpful.
I think what makes Titan builds so boring right now, is that the only S tier exotics are subclass neutral, which makes all builds fit into one of three categories: melee everything, spam abilities, or be immortal with sword block. It's honestly rather depressing how anytime Titans get a strong exotic that is subclass-specific, it inevitably gets hit hard with nerfs. It's honestly really annoying to me that the only exotic my Titan (main class) has used this season are Synthoceps, with the occasional swap to Lion Rampants or Pyrogale Gauntlets. There are plenty of other exotics I'd love to use, but the problem is I hate actively hurting myself by using them.
people will say this then complain when bungie nerfs synthoceps
@@Ellyarkyes we will complain because once synthos is nerfed, titans will have no good exotic.
Exactly. One of the big reasons synthos are so good is because there’s NO COMPETITION for good titan exotics.
This is hoil storm nades all over again
Same thing for hunters for the most part. The best exotics are subclass neutral.
For anyone curious at how Loreley used to be: Loreley's was released pre-Solar 3.0, when Sunspots still gave you a damage buff (it was 20% and nerfed to 15% percent at one point if my memory serves), on top of that it would add a standard healing effect as Solar keywords weren't a thing yet. On top of an on demand sunspot with a barricade cast, it also guaranteed a Sunspot spawn when hitting critical, no class ability charge required.
This whole tier list aside, I’m very happy to hear you mention how undervalued Phoenix Cradle can be. It truly is just an interesting exotic that fills a niche for us support titans and even though it’s not the best in the business it’s certainly not the worst. Awesome video!
Honestly the only change bungie needs to make, to make phoenix cradle an S-tier exotic, is by giving us a new class ability where we spawn a sunspot, that way we can reliably spawn a sunspot that heals teammates in a DPS window, and give them that juicy ability regen, and super extender.
and by doing that they could finally rework Lorely for the 7th time.
Also, sol invictus makes your super drain more slowly, which works with chaos reach and geo mags for example
I think if the sunspots were colored differently for teammates so they know you have it on, would be a great change. People are trained to ignore sunspots because they see them on their screen but have "never" done anything for them so why would they randomly run to them now
@@Erelyn1 I agree for sure
@@Erelyn1 there is that, also the sunspots doesn't last for very long if noone is standing in it, so most of the time the other players can't even get to the sunspot before it disappears, so maybe make it so the phoenix cradle also extends the lifetime of a sunspot.
Abeyant leap was underrated just because of the woven mail imo. I like to use leap basically instead of into the fray, so i get both drengr's lash and woven mail
Woven is really easy to get on Titan with Fray + Heavy Handed
@@TheAegisRelic And Synthos with Grapple melee makes it really easy to do that.
@@Technizor Cyrtarachne also makes Woven Mail comedically easy to obtain lol
another big advantage to Lancecap is that it creates Crystals meaning more chaining of the Grenade energy fragment, and the barricade portion allows for Diamond Lance creation without the aspect (but you usually want that extra fragment slot anyway on stasis)
but yeah, struggles with being Stasis
i always felt like lancecap was under appreciated tbh
it's definitely a high value exotic, only held back by being hyper-defensive in an aggressive meta. I defs enjoy using it in pve like GMs when chilling with friends, but wouldn't chuck it on if running with lfg or in hyper end-game situations
@@FettuccineAllaGay just had a cool idea: "diamond lances always generate next to you and spawn crystals wherever they land. rapid precision hits and stasis weapon kills generate a diamond lance while behind a rally barricade or near a stasis crystal." Or replace the "next to a stasis crystal" with "slamming the diamond lance creates crystals around you consuming melee energy"
How dare you not put kephris horn as number 1 in the list!
It's so useful in... Um... Patrol?
It's hilarious in pvp on strand with drengr's lash
You could not understand how grateful i am for this coming out at this time.
Stronghold was literally the only reason I rarely died on challenge mode Bride, even without the restoration it's pretty much makes you invincible in team play.
I love the happy description of ac/do feedback and rhen just immediately into c tier, lovely job
I’m glad you put Cadmus in C tier. Most people wrote it off as complete stinky poopoo garbage as soon as it came out, but it really *can* work if you’re willing to play at the speed of an amoeba on downers. Its only MOSTLY stinky poopoo garbage.
It’s not even that bad imo. Just that stasis got powercrept, I think pre 3.0 it would be seen as really good.
@@buckledwheat6299 Yeah, I’ve certainly had a lot of fun with it, myself. I’m not impressing anyone with it, but its generally capable. If nothing else, it encourages a unique playstyle that few other exotics can sustain.
They should make Wormgod refresh the timer on melee hits, but still require melee kills to increase the stacks. That way you could build up to higher damage than synthos before damage and maintain it.
Side note I miss running Wormgod + Python + middle tree hammers in Season 9 😭
:)
@@thehale_ close! But not quite lmao either way we eatin
The "S" in "S-tier" stands for "Synthoceps"
It's kinda sad how titan exotics are. We only have a couple of S tiers but those S tiers are very very good. But everything else is like B tier. Vs warlock where they have a ton of S and A tiers but very few are extremely strong S tiers.
i swear the new exotics that warlocks and hunters have been getting like cenotaph / briarbinds / mothkeepers / radiant dance machines / necrotic grip just seem more unique
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this may be just titan cope but i bet there’s 0 warlock or hunter mains that think throwable barricade or sunspot barricade or skin barricade or suspend barricade or ice spear barricade or fortnite barricade are “cool” exotics
@@Mozini01 I mean yeah I get what you mean but at least this last round of exotics was good for every class. But I agree barricade exotics kinda suck except for abeyant. Someday khepris will get a crazy buff making it meta.
@@Mozini01Throwable barricade is sick asf imo
@@x9x9x9x9x9after all the trouble kephri’s has caused with glitches over the past couple seasons, it has gotten the Telesto treatment.
Which is to say, Bungo is tired of it breaking the game and would be vaulted if they could 😂
BUT [X] EXOTIC HELPED ME ONE TIME IN [under master activity or really niche scenario] WHY IS IT PLACED SO LOW
Lowkey just typed out one of these
Whoops 😅
Thanks for this! We used Ursa's in Proving Grounds, when it was hard to kill tanks
Yeah throwback to Y4
I miss when titans had more support options
I think they can Revert the Loreleys Nerf now - Just make it so it only works on Tower Barricade and Not Rally Barricade because it's on a longer timer
A really stupid setup for 20+ under lvl clears is a enhanced energy transfer sword + stronghold + Bastion + Bulwark + bubble
where loop is throw grenade, get overShield from barricade for grenade recharge, then block with sword for class ability, Infinite loop,
and then bubble if you ever mess up/have downtime for whatever reason, as it gives you a full grenade charge + overshield to start loop again
The thing too is I don't want synthos nerfed but rather some others increased even slightly to be able to compete. Just too many fun builds with synthos.
Make titans have synthoceps intristically :trollge:
The Feedback Fence will definitely get more play when Glaives get their rework. Each hits give an armor charge, and VERY friendly with BOW
Phoenix Cradle extends the super duration of roaming supers of ally’s as well, unless I’m mistaken you can pair Chaos Reach with it to get extra long Kamehameha
Yeah it does
Cuirass needs a buff especially when you compare it to hunter's star-eater scales
I think Skullfort could use a tiny bit of a buff. Like kills increase melee damage for a short time so you can snowball melee kills
Other than my comments on Loreley, hearing you gush over Stronghold is really validating LOL. I didn't pay attention to that exotic at all until last season, but it does SO much.
I'm also a little more interested in trying Ashen Wake, though I've been kinda PVP-brained trying to figure out how to actually use it (it's a full refresh on Guardian kill, but only 130 damage, so basically a cleanup tool unless you manage to stack x3 Roaring Flames). Looking at it through a PVE lens, yeah, I can see how it'd come up, especially as an additional means to operate double special in conjunction with throwing hammer.
I have been a stronghold main since beyond light. I love that it's finally not just a niche option. It's always hilarious when I'm in a GM using a sword and other randoms are you know surprised what the heck are you doing and then when someone gets down and I just walk up guarding and just revive them getting blasted from every side like it's most normal thing in the world and they're like what the hell are you doing. That's my Titan power fantasy.
The only UA-camr I agree with and trust when it comes to things like this most of the time, other UA-camrs just have no idea what they’re talking about sometimes I swear
Stronghold is underrated with the banner of war most people use the synthoceps until you realize your literally immortal with stronghold on
It's not about you surviving, it's about the enemy not surviving
@@gabrieltorres6633Your enemies survive if you can't.
Upcoming Peregrine Greaves buff giving it more damage and refunding your whole melee charge against champs (and minibosses i think). I can't wait to try it! But syntho/banner of war still exists
this might be the cutest video yet
I miss contest mode/master mode Golgoroth attempts where I literally had to swap off Loreley to wipe because the boss couldn't kill me. That had to go LMAO
Currently Loreley would fit way better in a sandbox closer to, like, a Beyond Light GM where you're trying to go slow and steady and make as few mistakes as possible, where if you get tagged by a scorn crossbow for like 190 damage or something, you're basically useless until you recover every single point of that health--and you're less likely to be able to run up to your sunspots and get restoration that way. I think that's really the key--Loreley drops the sunspot at your feet, so in a situation where enemies are so threatening that you will likely get killed trying to even get to your first sunspot, it gives you a way to proc restoration not reliant on doing that.
In the current sandbox, there are basically zero of those situations, so I'd be coping hard if I were wearing it over HOIL or whatever, but describing the effect as a "net negative" doesn't really sit well with me, especially given your comments on other exotics that PVE barricade is often not that useful.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Loreley is by no means the best exotic for titans, but to say it's worse than using no exotic at all is going a bit too far. It could sit pretty comfortably in C-tier imo.
Its a crutch exotic useful only for the lowest skilled players, completely pointless for anyone average and above.
14:42 watching this after bungie announced well nerf
Stronghold main here. Thanks for putting some respect on it!
I think this list help me understand why I recently switched back to warlock after a season main on Titan. I really liked the tank fantasy with stronghold but there isn’t enough diversity
My biggest issue with POBS is the fact that it doesn't work with Time Dilation. If it had that it would be an A tier for me. The reason why is on Solar Titan you can easily proc Radiant which is a 25% buff that stacks either POBS 25%. If you slap on Target Lock or any other damage increase on a gun your already adding more firepower to the gun. I think it's underrated imo.
i do agree that loreley is really not needed on solar when you can make sunspots aplenty via sol invictus,
but the thing i never see anybody talk about is how loreley enables you to use all 3 aspects on solar; sunspot via loreley, and just equip consecration + roaring flames. you can put on empyrean to extend restoration from your loreley sunspot, and it frees up your grenade slot if you wanted to use something other than healing nade (i would still recommend healing nade though)
this isn't game changing or anything, but it's really nice to know since consecration has really high damage if you need to just nuke something.
These videos are great man, keep it up!
Feedback Fence with stasis is insane you can get infinite armor charges for no effort
But u need to be on stasis, the worst titan subclass by a lot. Aswell as there are so many other ways to get armor charge easily, think a high C-Tier placement is fair. Also the exotic is basically never ever used in endgame.
I would love to see an update to this!
Soon!
Looking forward to hunter and warlock. Great videos man you are probably the best endgame d2 channel I’ve come across since I started playing in black armory 💯
19:00 Banner shield is really good in GMs. Things like the plate in glassway or the shield generator in proving grounds come to mind when thinking about good uses for it. Any room filled to the brim with enemies like the beginning of Disgraced are worth mentioning too, which is essentially 50% of what GM’s are. The super also generates tons of orbs and can be used to guarantee multiple revives if you’re the last guardian standing, since you’re literally invincible from the front. Makes for easy clutches if things go wrong. All of this plus the damage buff to allies makes it a good super in boss encounters for obvious reasons.
Not as much of a brain-dead crutch as Well of Radiance, but still very good. Especially if most of your friends aren’t Warlock mains. The one thing that sometimes makes it better than Well is because it’s mobile, which brings me to the point I made earlier about free revives in case things go wrong.
Don’t sleep on the shield 😤
Doom Fangs should up sentinel's shield damage bonus to like 60-70% so it's a competitive choice against Well.
DFP is the offensive counterpart to the defensive Ursa Furiosa. If anything, Ursa should buff the damage buff, while DFP gives you +50% or better damage on the super attacks itself to put it up to par with Synthos boosted Sentinel Shield. They both return you super energy but in different playstyles, so there's nothing to change there given the restrictions they placed on super refund exotics a while ago.
I will say strongholds have served me well in GM environments w lament and a team of friends in coordinating with. Took some getting used to after the change to them was a somewhat nerf: that timed block heal to full was insane. Though now that the restoration is fixed and banner of war exists they're in a much easier to use spot while still being very powerful.
I love using stronghold and lament on strand titan. Wish they would buff swords so stronghold would reach new heights😭
I feel like doomfangs don’t need much change since we will get the new void super in The Final Shape.
Honestly, Mask of the Quiet One is an exotic that makes Touch of Malice more viable in stuff where the extra damage matters. You’d probably have to pair it with devour and that fragment that gives you an overshield when killing things while low health to not feel on edge all the time, but paired with the ToM buffs, there’s build potential there. Giving you an extra boost to all your abilities from taking damage by enemies is a nice bonus as well. The exotic isn’t D-tier imo, but being that niche, it deserves a kind of rework. It doesn’t feel very exotic when you can get the same effects without it.
I think something forgotten about Abeyant Leap is that you can get Woven Mail with having the aspect equipped so you can have quite a variety of options all at once.
Oh I'm aware but Warding makes Woven uptime near constant anyways
52:00 Synthoceps:
How is this good for raiding and end game? I have a 90 resilience build and am dead within 3 seconds if I step out into the open in a raid or even a strike. The idea of punching anything pretty much got out of my head as soon as the campaign ended.
Banner of War + Woven or Resto
Buildcraft leaves a lot to be desired in this game but you’re still entertaining to watch so… let’s do this thing.
Pretty solid rankings, definitely agree with synthos and strongholds. Stronghold is just insane with the DR, and synthos... well, it's self-explanatory.
Did you do titan exotics yet?
No he didn't. He said titans are gay
Nah not yet
Stongholds are so fun
Man I miss infinite shoulder charge dashing.
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Let’s goooooooo, love these tier list videos
"They do deserve a nerf."
You shut your mouth, Aegis! Synthos are the only thing that keep me as a Titan main, I'd probably quit playing Titan entirely if they were useless.
55:18
Ngl, this kinda hurts. Cause we just had this situation come up with the Witness.
But they made sure that it’s attacks bypass the shield so it’s pointless. I understand why, cause cheesing the day 1 with that would be slightly anticlimactic. But it would have given titan a niche in that fight, and a use in flawless runs.
Armamentarium is a go to exotic. Especially with stasis titan. Doubles up the crystal grenade so more smash more regen more damage more smash paired with the reworked header stasis grenade launcher exotic, it just chokes the field with crystals.
I’ve actually consistently used Icefall mantles in ONE situation only in this game. That being momentum control on widows court sitting at the church with bubble and jade rabbit. 💀
Titan mains watching this video knowing their just gonna use synthoceps again 😭
Real as hell
I don’t use Loreley often and I think it’s not that great of an exotic (only time I used it in this expansion was for day one Crotas on bridge, I was the first one to cross and killed the guy solo and for my solo flawless gotd as a swappable for dps to stay alive) but in situations where it forces u to stay in place and a res has a ton of value (where u would play a little bit more defensively)Loreley is still a decent overall exotic. Also getting a sunspot for just casting your barricade gives u a bunch of ability energy if u just stand in it for the whole duration. Don’t think it’s F, more like C-Tier, definitly better than anything in D- or F-Tier. Like if u had the choice between Loreley and Khepris Horn or Mask of the quiet one. I’d choose Loreley all day long, I’d probably even choose it over a lot of C-Tier exotics honestly.
Might move it up a tier next version
God I love titan, 1 hour video just to hear slap on synthoceps and profit
banger vid, as always!
Do you have any example of a run that used Saint 14 bubbles to create an add zoo? That sounds absolutely hilarious and I want to see it in action lmao
Old KF record, some of the old LW records
Enclosure with the invis/volatile finisher build operates quite well in high lvl content, as you can get one minor low, finish, which gets all the other minors to finishable hp, then after finishing one any knight/wizard lvl enemy is finishable, and the whole time you are invis, on titan
I've actually seen that build in play and while it is cool it's a lot less productive than just killing the enemies normally (and also forces you to replace your gameplay loop, not augment it)
Being totally honest, I have a whole build based on point-contact, and it is excellent in almost any PvE content. It’s is my favorite Titan exotic.
Just imagine DoomFang in Prismatic just increasing whatever Super your rolling with
Great tier list! Thanks for this work. I only have one disagreement regarding the Actium War Rig.
That chest enables a never-reloading build with the Thunderlord + catalyst, in my raid runs I’m always doing 4-5kk damage in bosses like Nezarec, Ir Yut and Taniks using this combo. It’s extremely useful on that matter and puts me in the top DPS of the group every time. (Combined with eventual Thundercrash and a divinity in the team, of course)
I believe it should be a B given how strong LMGs are right now.
Sometimes I use it for solo dungeon runs with the Heir Apparent too, makes you feel like an unbeatable terminator destroying everything on its path 😂
If you've seen the other videos on this channel, then it'll make more sense that Thunderlord DPS doesn't factor into Actium viability
@@TheAegisRelic Oh, interesting! Thanks for the clarification, I'll check them out 😄
I use Dunemarchers for Taniks Duos for the extra slide distance when picking up a bomb. It’s especially good when comboing with a Cryoclasm Slide. I’m not sure if you count niche things like this into account, but as far as I know, most players use Dunemarchers for Taniks lowmans.
Having icefall above abeyant should get your titan card revoked.
Thoughts on, perhaps, the Eternal Warrior swap for 4x arc surge, into No Backup Plans with Acrius? You can do 3x kinetic surge and have the surge and shotgun bonuses for all of your weapons in a swap rotation solo
I'm not sure if it persists after you swap, I know Raiju's doesn't, also idk how you're getting OS afterwards
Been using ACD/0 Feedback Fence all season. Basically free melee, surge activation at any time and free jolt.
Combine with Woven Mail at 6 stacks you simply don't die at CQC. The damage resistance stacks (60% from WM, 80% from ACD and in my case I use Vexcalibur for the free Void Overshield and extra 45% DR).
Loving it more than Synthoceps (don't get me wrong Synthos is better still for Endgame).
Yeah it's definitely a unique build with Flechette
question for eternal warrior is, if you can switch to t-crash after your fist of havoc ended but you keep the surge. that would actually be dope. and it would be even better if you can get the surge to last long enough for you to swap to cuirass and back.
synthos still the best after the nerf or is wormgod now better?
Helm of Saint 14 works with the titan exotic glaive so you can get some of those benefits without using your super. The rework next season might bring it back up since the glaive bubble gives a lot more benefits.
but right now you already don't need the helmet of saint14 to get the overshield while outside of the glaive bubble. So what benefit would the helmet give?
@@Erelyn1just blinding…..yeah not a lot
Honestly, as a warlock main, the DoomFang will be better in Final Shape with that new Twilight Axe super. At least then for offensive players in Endgame, they'll have something that helps the team and causes high burst damage on throwing the super.
Still, its weird seeing things you'd think be viable in endgame be ranked differently, but that's the life of endgame players who know where the benefits/negatives lie.
Cheers as always!
Watching this video a day before act 3 releases in episode 1, wondering if this list is still up to date or is outdated with buffs/nerfs + the release of Prismatic (I know the Meta is ability focused right now but as a Warlock main trying to get his titan a chance, it'd be nice to know if everything here is still valid or not, if not would it be a good idea if you remake the video for all 3 classes? From me looking through it I didn't saw anything about it)
Very not up to date haha
As a casual player who doesn't pay for much content, I love Doomfang because I just enjoy the Super itself, the funnest roaming one on Titan I think. But if I even touch even a Nightfall, I go right to Syntho Solar.
I dunno, Loreley saved my ass on the final encounter of solo GOTD, and Second chance + Monte Carlo was keeping me alive through a large chunk of my groups Day 1 Crota completions. This information is definitely useful and you do an excellent job overall on your content, but I think the explanations give the impression that the lower tiers are useless.
Maybe that's just my perspective, but I think there's definitely a lot more wiggle room for the lower tier exotics, especially for someone like me who likes to buildcraft and do high-level content, but isn't going to min-max every little thing to squeeze more DPS out for low-man and speedrun situations.
Personally, Lorely is where is belongs, ever since all the nerfs it got, it’s not worth using. If you’re on point you never even get it to proc which isn’t hard at all as Solar Titan isn’t hard to play.
The gap between how well the nerf to heart of inmost light was handled and how awfully they nerfed starfire is so funny to see
I haven’t seen starfire used since the nerf, but heart is still very solid.
Star fire isn't bad just over shadowed now
Before the nerf it didn't increase ur dps if ur rocket dumping anyways just extended ur damage.
It's still useful jus for that extended damage just to a lesser extent
I hear starfire is quite good in gms as a room clearer but I haven’t tried it yet
Because warlocks have substitutes like sunbracers for solar specifically, titan doesnt have a single subdtitute to heart lmao. Dogshit exotics all around.
Starfire is very viable for content that requires chunky addclear and stuff where you cant do ghorn Spam. Basically boils down to carrying gms when done with lfg or so.
The Rotation is No longer, place emp rift and apply DOT. Its an actual build now that cycles abilities very Well still. It goes as follows:
Run starfire, Touch of Flame, Long range melee, Double Bomber +distribution/outreach, a melee Kickstart and Impact induction, ember of torches, benevolence, singeing and searing.
Its a Lot more but basically this allows you to with every Grenade throw to generate melee Energy, on Kills completely refill your class Energy which in Turn charges your grenades, your melee (which in Turn charges your grenades) and Provide benevolence for more ability recharge rate. The Goal is to have high benevolence uptime and Support that with periodic cooldown decreases/resets with ability activations, starfire and subclass perks. You will have high Radiant uptime and proc cure a Lot and thats Not even mentioning that you get Well relatively fast with Double ashes.
All in all very potent for dealing a Lot of damage in gms, however unfortunately cenotaph exists so or gets overshadowed massively in more optimized groups.
The fact that ARMAMENTARIUM is ranked 7th says a lot about the state of Titan exotics.
Jeeesus.
Hahaha
55:18 we back bois !!
maybe...
hopefully...
please 🙏
Late comment but pyrogale is extremely potent with dragons breath for season of the wish. Works very well for grounded and slower bosses, especially with the seasonal artifacts
You plan on also making tierlists for Primary weapons? (or mainly like the only notable primary weapons etc)
Yeah something like that
with the new season, would any of the exotics' rankings change?
Yeah definitely, I'll update this later this season
Would it be possible to pop burning maul with pyrogales then swap to Phoenix cradle on bosses like Crota to help your team?
I don't know if it retroactively applies to sunspots
@@TheAegisRelic it may be something to test/look into
I would like to ask if you ever get the chance, or if you could link a video for a good titan build bonk titan or void works
My day 1 titan video sorta has that
@@TheAegisRelic alright gotcha
@TheAegisRelic I’ve been attempting a solo flawless sotw but damage has been real tuff on the first boss what should I use (void Hunter with no cataclysmic or briars btw)
Gyrfalcon's / Levi / Hollow sounds good
@TheAegisRelic thank you so much
Bruh I just did a build with eternal warrior and trinity ghoul that shit is actually crazy. Literally god mode add clear that 30 sec refreshable buff with ANY arc kill is perfect synergy with trinity’s perc
Next year, doonfangs might be kinda busted with that new super
Strongholds with Worldline Zero is so much fun!
Second chance good with prismatic now? You get 2 consecration charges with it still
Not really
Putting lorely under mask of the quiet one when it does the same thing but better and for free is actually wild
They don't do the same thing, and if you listen to the MotQO section, I explicitly talk about how the heal effect is inconsequential - the on damage received regen is what makes it better
Arbor warden being in F is criminal. It's insanely good for suspending. Used it a ton for master lost sectors.
You can suspend pretty easily without it
@@TheAegisRelic you can suspend way more with it than you can with abeyant
Not sure how it being throwable changes how many lashes/how big the radius is
@@TheAegisRelicyou are able to rinse through your barricade much faster
Precious scars consistently procs ember of benevolence's 400% ability regeneration boost, which is imo insanely good
Pretty easy to proc Benev regardless but yeah this list is being redone
I agree with your take on Icefall mantle though I think the free x4 surge bonus on popping the overshield is convenient for dps or just clearing content in general since every kill extends the x4 surge duration. With ager's scepter and whisper of refraction, it has a pretty low cooldown thanks for the wide freeze but that requires giving up an exotic and fragment slot. It's not great with mobile guns like smg or sidearms.
Yeah the convenience factor is definitely nice
The bad part is you lose the overshield so fast in dps phases
The war rig with target lock, vorpal machine guns.
How do i get the cadmus ridge ornament?
Are all of those really A tier exotics compared to what you put as A in other classes? or is this just relatvie to Titan?
Nah independently relative