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0:00 Intro
0:22 Why my friend couldn't join
1:20 Lesbian Slang
4:11 LGBTQ Clubs?
4:43 LGBTQ Centers?
5:12 Young vs Old generation perception
7:15 Can you casually come out?
7:44 Is it safe to Kiss in public?
8:58 Idol culture hypocrisy
10:39 Gay vs Lesbian acceptance difference
10:51 What we think about International LGBTQ communities
11:33 Korean media representation of lesbians
12:08 Korean friend's reactions
12:55 Korean parent's reactions
13:57 Is it hard to date in Korea
15:53 Work discrimination towards LGBTQ+
16:54 My dad's opinion on Gay marriage
19:32 Checking out university lesbian convo
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This is sad and the idols acting gay on stage and people being okay with it, yet having difficulty in accepting gay people in real life does not make sense. Any one hating on someone based on their color or sexual orantaion says a lot about the hater and not the other way around.
Right. I kinda see this in the media in the west too, tbh. Straight guys LOVE getting pleasure out of seeing girls kiss and do sexual things with each other, but the second it comes to actual wlw relationships, they switch up so bad. They see us as nothing but a p0rn category and It’s very frustrating.
I have to mention the lesbian couple showed on Nevertheless, it was sweet and felt very respectful. Soljiwan ♡ forever lol, definitely recommend!!
🥰🥰yess
there are also lesbian characters in these dramas - Hi, Dracula and Seonam Girls’ Investigators
Yesss ❤ I was more invested in their storyline than the main characters' lol
I agree hahaha
I'm from Kazakhstan. Kazakhs are also Asian and our culture of shame is quite high. Society is homophobic, so the LGBT community exists in the shadows. Extremely rarely do relatives or parents perceive coming out positively. If we talk about extremes, it's exorcism, sometimes corrective rape, violence. When I told my mom, the most censored response was that such people would be better off dead. Most lesbians get married and have children because there is no future and we have a lot of family pressure. So now I'm desperately pretending that I want to start a family with a man for my own safety. I plan to leave the country.
musilms are majority in your country right
@@imethd90 yes
Could you maybe elaborate on what you mean with corrective rape? I'm from a western country and so confused right now
Some people think lesbians need normal sex, apparently rape is a crime. I knew one girl, when her father found out she was a lesbian, he took her to some relatives and locked her in a room. Then a man came to her all the time and raped her.
it's the same in Ukraine... i dont know why everyone(irl) from a child to an elder is homophobic. especially the adults who were born in the USSR. i have noticed that English-speaking Ukrainians are more open-minded because i guess it's easier to educate yourself on these topics if you know English. though knowing English ≠ not homophobic. i must confess that i was a homophobe, racist, transphobe in the past and im not proud of that. i dont know what exactly helped me to stop being like that. maybe because i was seeing a lot of videos of different people who id never meet in my town. they would tell their stories online and id think something like "what's the point of hating someone just because they're like this?". i wish more people over the world were much more understanding. especially men
I can't explain how much I wanted Kelsey to make a video about this. 💌
I'm so glad!
Research shows most modern bisexual cisgender females are, by trend/popularity, not really bisexuals
It’s interesting to see that being skinny is such an important part of Korean lesbian culture. I feel like in the states it’s not necessarily like that. Of course, people have preferences and there is still a lot of fat phobia present in our society as a whole. But I feel like people here put a little more focus on who the person is rather than what their size is. Or at least from my experience.
We definitely benefit from being in an active community and see how diverse, accepting and wide the queer community is. Our community is very diverse(race, background, culture, language, size), where as Korea is quite less so and often people don't interact with the other alphabets, from what I can see.
I think the yonsei gays kinda reflect even just regular Korean dating style with how descriptive they were about looks. So that was interesting!
In the US and I would generalize the west, there is a difference between masculinity, femininity and man, woman. Being butch doesn’t mean you’re a man, just more masculine. There are feminine men but that doesn’t make them women. I can understand your friends complicated feelings with certain terms but that only bc from my pov, that way of thinking is from years ago in my country.
There was something else I wanted to say but I forgot lol.
When she said "as a bi Korean woman" my last brain cell thought she meant that she was double Korean 🤣. I'm sorry I haven't slept in days!
I'm a lesbian in states and we have the same type of slang I think that Korean slang is the same just Korean lol
What’s ur slang for Ilsu(straight vibe lesbian)?
@@KelseytheKorean They might say they’re “straight-passing” as in they look straight although that’s not really slang
@@KelseytheKorean lip stick lesbian
6:27 The point of Yeonsei being a conservative Christian school is so so interesting. My parents went to Yeonsei in the 90s, and my dad became a radical progressive due to his time being a student activist there. He's accepting of me being a lesbian, and we've been keeping it a secret from the rest of the family.
I'm go to a prestigious Catholic college in the US. In the US, gay and lesbian and trans rights have been the in the public consciousness for a much longer time. So despite going to a conservative Christian college like you, I've found lots of lesbian and bisexual women at my school
In Itaewon Class LGBT theme is very well brought up and recognised.
True ^^
rly?
The Kdrama “nevertheless” has a lesbian couple and it’s so cute!!! Also “The Fabulous” has a gay main character and i loveee
As someone who's not from Korea but is a huge advocate for global change and international awareness of struggles and treatment of minorities, I really think that what you're doing and saying is so important. I strongly believe that if SK had more people like you willing to speak out, the country would change for the better and become more open minded--and influence change in other Asian countries as well. This is so significant, I've never heard someone from Korea speak out about things like this blatantly, please continue standing up for the Korean community, they need you!
Gay guy living in Seoul but for whatever reason have always been sort of interested in lesbian culture broadly haha (I think because in the West, it seems like it's being slowly absorbed by a broader, less focused "queer" culture). But the terms for only-give and only-take in English are "touch-me-not" and "pillow princess" respectively! Also a Korean lesbian movie recommendation other than The Handmaiden is "Our Love Story"! Really loved it :)
Or top and bottom 🤣 that's what I heard used most. I've never heard touch-me-not and I don't hear pillow princess very often. Most people say top or bottom, and Dom or sub
@@sejongunniespistol While all touch-me-nots are tops, I don't think it's fair to say all lesbian tops are touch-me-nots though? They refer to different things. And the term seems pretty ubiquitous among lesbian UA-camrs? Jade Fox has done several videos on the topic
@@ydalir i think it’s possible to be a touch-me-not power bottom if we’re getting technical 😅
Our Love Story is indeed a pretty good short movie ^^
@@sejongunniespistol those are fetishy and outdated terms bruh bruh
Another drama with a lesbian subplot is "mine". I really liked it, and I loved that it had an ending that could be seen as happy for the couple. It was a main character as well.
Yeees! The drama is so good and it's the first kdrama with a lesbian lead character! And played my the queen Kim Seohyung 🥹
@@maryy.834 Omg that was my first introduction to her and she is a goddess ❤🔥
알고 있지만 has a lesbian couple. The kind of lightly touch on the couple throughout the series and then at the end the two end up confessing their love for each other and they become a couple. I loved that about that show.
For me the main couple from Nevertheless was shit, and I didn't really like how they approached it, but it was worth going through the drama only because of Sol and Ji-wan.
@@giovannapadilha this is so true! I didn’t like how rushed the ending was for the main couple. They could have done better to make it feel like a decent fit. But Sol and Ji-wan were the real mvps ha
For anyone interested, there’s a new queer k-pop group called QI.X who are fighting for change in SK. It would be amazing if ppl would support them.
Maybe you could give them an interview Kelsey? 😀
In America, we do have fems (feminine women) and mascs (masculine women). We also have ‘butch’, which is a very masculine woman who usually does some form of hard labor lol at least that’s the stereotype, but like, imagine a masculine lesbian construction worker, and you got yourself a butch. There are also ‘stems,’ which are people who present masc AND fem. There are androgynous lesbians and their style doesn’t have a label of masc or fem, they are just them. And people looking for sexual partners may put in their bios that they are a ‘top’ which is someone who likes to do all the work if you know what I mean. And ‘bottom,’ someone who is more ~submissive~ Hopefully s korea will be more open to lgbtq soon. It wasn’t as free to be gay in America 10 years ago so keep hope alive! I really enjoyed this video !
How old are you if you don't mind me asking? I've just never heard anyone use "butch" in a serious or non offensive way, everyone I know would just say stud.
@@nikkigriffin08 stud is for black lesbians.
As a bisexual (pansexual) transgender Korean American Gen X'er, it's interesting to see how the Koreans in Korea are behaving towards LGBTQ+ people. Thanks for the video!
what? lol 🤣
@@martthesling What's funny about it? 乁| ･ _ ･ |ㄏ
@@azertytores this stuff is bizarre . pansexual tran bi Unicorn 🦄
@@martthesling No. Just, no. Stfu.
@@marttheslingYou must be 7 years old if three correctly spelled words made your brain do backflips. Nothing bizarre about it.
Thank you for answering my question, Kelsey!! I find it so interesting how private(?) these resources seem to be. I live in the U.S. and while every LGBT center is different, my local one is open to everyone in the area. They have free counseling service, a good pantry, support groups, and other programs, all free and welcoming. But it sounds like ones in Korea are harder to access if you don't have someone referring you. I don't know if this is really accurate, it just sounds like it's harder for LGBTQ people in Korea to find community resources and support outside of online spaces.
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Stay strong girl, I know you’ve been dealing with some stuff. Take your time if you need to heal. Sending love and support to you ❤
Shipping culture is really a kind of hypocrisy. You are not open to LGBTQ+ but you are enjoying idols' fan service.
Im a lesbian and im really into kr culture and I've been noticing its kinda hard to find representation bc everything is hide/secret but i see theres a lot of new lesbian webtoons (sadly still no netflix dramas) and also younger generation its starting to be more open abt this too. I think its gonna be better with time bc kr still has a strong age cultural difference, elders has a totally difference vision (to me koreans parents sounds like grandparents here)
recomend the lesbians webtoons!!!
Still so many Korean Christians that march against it or show up at LGBT festivals to shame them :(
@@giovannapadilha Yes please, any recommendations? ^^
I noticed that there is often more male on male stuff than girl with girl stuff online, it made me wonder if Korean lesbians get respected
Thank you for your honesty and transparency with your thoughts on the Korean LGBTQ+ community. It's refreshing! 🌈 Continue being you!!
I’ve been waiting for this one!!!!! I do wish the friend could’ve made it tho!
Now I'm kinda wondering what's the LGBT scene in other places outside EUA/Europe.... I've heard multiple times how secret and private LGBT+ scene is (in Korea*), there's also the language barrier so I feel like this is the most details I've ever heard!
11:33 I feel like we don't see much lesbian representation in any series movies in the whole world
There's much bl but concepts like trans or lesbian or asexual are not really brought out in the media
Yeah, not too sure if I categorise bl as proper representation for gay people, comes across as more of a fetish for straight women tbh (talking about in general and just my opinion of course). But I agree there needs to be more for lesbians/trans/asexuals. I did just see a jdrama called Koisenu Futari which has two aro/ace main leads and it was great.
I just watched a lot of your ''old'' content and you have changed a lot in a very short time! As you said in your other video, it really seems like the development in young koreans is really fast and efficient. It's so beautiful to watch! Love this content. ❤
Wait, it's mandatory to take chapel classes at Yonsei?? Wow is there a lot of socially conservative culture left over, I honestly had no idea
Question. Are lgbt korean girls open to meeting/getting to know lgbt female foreigners? Will they also judge the foreigner based on whether they follow the “Korean beauty standards” to determine if they’re “worth” getting to know?
I absolutely admired when u cleared it quite well not to take u as an ideal Korean girl. Loved it. All these little girlies and boyies have to know...
This mic on a fork situation is BAAWWMMMBBBB
THE VID IVE BEEN WAITING FOR ❤❤ THANK YOU
This was super helpful to learn about as a German lesbian who is going to Korea soon for 3 months. If I will make any friends at all is a big question for me, but among those it would be nice to meet some fellow lgbtq+ people. My bi friend who went to Seoul recently forwarded me all the addresses for the queer clubs so at least I have that 😅
I hope you know Korean. A lot of the younger generation knows English, so you should be fine as long as long as your English is on point. Also be prepared to have to celebrate an anniversary you didn’t even know existed.
Lets go together
@@dutchessdreamer4543 The anniversary thing is so on point lmao XDD
long comment apologies!!! i feel like there is probably a lot more slang overall for the lgbtq+ community here😂i am pansexual and i live in the US, and as far as i know, there isn't a specific term for someone who has a "straight vibe" other than just saying one looks "straight-passing." but I also know a lot of people dislike this because it's basically saying that there's a certain way for a lesbian to look? which isn't true so it can come off like slightly offensive? lol idk. other than that I feel the closest we get to that would be the terms like "lipstick lesbian" "butch lesbian" and "chapstick lesbian" pretty straightforward but basically lipstick lesbians are extremely "feminine"...butch are super "masculine"...and chapstick are the ones in between who don't lean hard in either direction xD I don't know if I explained any of this very well but I tried hahaha
the netflix kdrama "mine" has a lesbian character played by kim seohyung (coach kim on sky castle)
I relate to this hard
Also I didn't see anyone say how in the west some people also don't like all the labels and butch/masc vs fem culture: Because there's a lot of toxicity in trying to "mimic" straightness alot of the time. More and more people just prefer broader, flexible terms so that they can express themselves freely without over thinking if they look or act masculine enough.
One of my fav korean movies the handmaiden has an amazing lesbian couple😊
I’m a korean living in america and even here its so hard to find queer girls who are korean😭 i’m also bi and have dated mostly men (2 LOL) and I’m currently in a relationship with a man so i’ve been DESPERATELY wracking the internet to find lesbian or bi couples to vicariously live through but its been sooo hard because if the negative stigma. Also, for me personally I’m out to strangers and friends but deeply closeted with family or family friends, and it would probably stay that way for the rest of my life if i want to keep my parents in my life. When i was single my dream was to find another korean girl to date but alas 😩 don’t get me wrong, I love my current partner though.
good luck dear. also you don't have to come out to your family if you don't want to, I regret doing so because media made me think that was the next step 🙅🏾♀
I have been also looking for queer koreans to talk to but I don't know where to find them or how to date them as an hispanic foreigner...
awesome video! so informative!.. are you holding your mic with a fork?
That fork is pure innovation 🤌🏼
I love your videos and how honest you are ❤️❤️❤️❤️
*The Painter Of The Wind* is a 2008 drama I watched recently which features a very strong LGBTQ+ theme, especially for its time; it's a historical drama based on a book that was very very loosely based on the life and paintings of traditional painter Shin Yun Bok, where the female lead has to pretend to be a man to be a painter, and there's a love story between her and another woman that, even if not perfect (there are other romantic plotlines between the FL and men that I personally didn't like, even if I get why they're there, and it has an ambiguous ending), I feel like was especially progressive for the time, and is genuinely beautiful story regardless. The two women are undoubtedly in love, and their poetic flirting is A+++.
Sol and Ji-Wan was another couple I felt like was handled quite well, and was one of the highlights of *Nevertheless*. I've heard some good things about a canonically lesbian character in *Mine* as well, but the drama wasn't my vibe unfortunately. I loved the LGBTQ+ plotlines, especially involving the transgender character, in *Itaewon Class*. *SF8: Joan's Galaxy* is a sapphic sci-fi episode special I've been longing to get my hands on for a longggg time.
In *Because This Is My First Life*, I felt like there were two scenes in particular I got a potentially bisexual feeling from the female lead, where she's briefly attracted to another woman, and admits to as much onscreen. I feel like at least one of the secondary leads in *Search:WWW* was heavily coded as bisexual ("catching you before you fall into traffic" trope and everything). *Run On* (asexual secondary character and gay minor character), *Her Private Life* (even if there are no actual sapphic characters, I liked the support shown in a misunderstanding... Ryan Gold, Lesbian Protector In Theory⚔️), *Romance Is A Bonus Book* (the sapphic ex of the ML makes an appearance), and *Extraordinary Attorney Woo* (actual lesbians, for one episode), I feel like I have to credit for their progressive feel.
In terms of films, *The Handmaiden* is an erotic thriller, and one of my personal favourite pieces of media ever, which heavily features one if the most beautiful and poetic lesbian romance. *Kill Boksoon* is a violent action film that features a sapphic plotline between the younger characters. I intend on watching *Moonlit Winter* at some point.
I hope the upcoming *Jeong Nyeon* (which apparently explores gender and sexuality as a core theme) and *Pyramid Game* (which I felt like was heavily queercoded) webcomic adaptations are good, and don't try to avoid the LGBTQ+ themes in their original storylines. I hope more dramas and films will take risks in the future. I feel like there are legions of us who will keep these dramas and films circulating forever when they're made well.
wait which characters from this is my first life?
@@pmo873 There's a scene I remember from watching it on Netflix where the ex of the ML is introduced. The FL is in the women's bathroom when she drops her earring, and his ex puts it back on for her. She later remembers the moment and starts blushing and talking about her sexual frustration. I can't remember which episode it was in, but somewhere nearer the end of the drama.
I like how u got creative and used a fork to hold ur mic.
In Argentina is fifty fifty with the slangs. Some queer women do use fem or masc to specify more and others just say that they´re plain queer without feeling more masculine or femenine 🖤.
as a resident of lesbos island i found this video really interesting !
i think asian lesbian specially chinese and korean are very brave and courage!! i hope i can meet more lesbian korean friends!! but let me tell you asian GL is awesome!!
the video i’ve been waitinggg forrr😭😭🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
OMG THANK YOU!! I've seen a couple of videos about being gay in Korea and none about being a queer woman (because they often are different) so thank you so much
Wow! Within 1st 200 people to view. U r def 1st in New topic
your channel is so cool :) I admire how you are just so brave
As a Filipino Chinese lesbian I mostly focus myself on business and personality development. Recently, I just finished my MBA. Btw, Kelsey you look like my crush and I hope to see you in person.
This whole video was so interesting, thanks for sharing!! I have read some BLs and wow... There is so much difference in quality. One thing that I really hated was that consent was like sooooo not respected. I've had to drop a lot of BLs cuz they were batshit crazy or forgot the actual plot for some xx scenes which aren't my favorite. I have found that it gets away from the "dumb heroine" stereotype that I hated.
Also not important buuuttt Exo is gen 2? 😆 Aren't they are gen 3 lol. If we are doing SM boy groups it would be DBSK, SHINee, then Exo 😛
Its so sad the way people still needs to hide themselves around the world. It breaks my heart. 😢 Love is love, we are all human beings, we all have feelings
The fork got me 😂😂😂
Here's some info about lesbians in the west I've collected as a lesbian in the U.S. (if it helps!)
Butch and femme are used a lot
There are tops and bottoms (like where they physically are in spicy moments, people who do both are called switches)
There are also dommes and subs (where they are mentally, domme has most power and sub has little both in and out of the bedroom, people who do both are called vers [I think]. Dommes and subs are usually confused with tops and bottoms)
Body size (at least in my experience) is not cared about but I've seen many women admire buff ladies or curvy ladies
There are straight-passing lesbians (mentioned in video)
also so many different subtypes of lesbians and I feel I forgot a lot of other stuff but here's stuff I see with many lesbians here:
carabiners
subaru outback cars
undercuts in hair
uhauls
i cant think of any more ;-;
Lately quite a few idols have been seen hanging out with or meeting openly LGBTQ+ people and idk why nobody is talking about it - like Yeonjun with Holland, Ateez with Pungja, etc. (I understand Knetz would not want to talk about it but international fans usually would be talking so much about it!!)
I love you kelsey your such open minded per and real person...💗😚
I always wondered more about this topic. I have nothing to do with the community so it’s hard finding info if you dont know what to look for. I saw a masc lesbian on tiktok and I clicked on some of her tags and figured that’s how the korean lesbian/bi community could find each others content.
I found this word and it seems like some sort of slang but even on korean youtube wlw content comes up. Have you seen this word? 레즈
Never stop being you gueen 🫶 love is love regardless of gender. Spread the positivity in Korea 🏳️🌈🇰🇷🏳️🌈
You are so pretty\I'am also bisexual too but I'am 28 years old and Black
Same in Philippines
Butch = masculine vibe lesbian
Fem = feminine vibe lesbian
dramas/movies with some lesbian representation:
The handmaiden, Nevertheless, Mine, Moonlit Winter, Extraordinary Attorney, Hello Dracula, painter of the wind
Where can I find lesbian spaces in korea as a foreigner?
I want to meet lesbians in Korea🌈
And i am better with girls because I don't feel nervous around them and i probably know that i am not alone alot of people had same issues like mine
"Buchi" (butsi) in Philippines is a ball of dough, filled with sweet bean paste, rolled in sesame seeds, deep fried and served as dessert lol
Also in slang terms for lesbians & gay men:
Philippines
(boomer generation, mostly my mom and her lesbian friends how they reference to each other and others):
"Tibo" or "tomboy' (for full or somewhat masculine appearance)
But there doesn't seem to be a slang term the girlie really feminine lesbians for some reason or maybe it was just never mentioned around me :P
"AC/DC" (Universal term for being bi-sexual, regardless if man or woman)
There are slang terms for gay men but it depends on context of who's saying it but for the most part it's mostly derogatory because Philippines is very patriarch based (at least when I was living there, idk now) so I'm omitting it.
Murica'
(Gen X, old ex roomies that were gf/gf's):
"Butch" (anytime they appear masculine)
"Lipstick" (if they're really feminine girly)
"Bi or bisexual" (The person would usually say "I'm a bisexual [insert gender]" when referencing to their sexuality)
(From my boomer & millennial male gay friends)
"Twink" - usually the younger skinny males, they usually look like the characters from a Yaoi manga
"Bear" - think of Zangief from street fighter
"Cub" - Zangief but younger
"top" - dominant
"bottom" - submissive
"switch" - can perform either dom or sub
Granted it might be different now since these terms were before 1990's and early 2000's and a lot has changed or updated since then :D
top and bottom arent about dom or sub but who is receiving or giving, you could be dom bottom for example if you prefer receiving sex but are more commanding and dominant
Plsss Kelsey make more videos about this topic
4:10 My first thought was Hongdae...
But I guess it's still discreet...
Must be worse outside of the main cities, like Seoul, Busan, Daegu...
10:11 Little sidetrack, but what about ecology?
I'm just curious he he ^^
10:36 I'm not really surprised with this, I feel like it's similar in a lot of countries on this specific point.
11:16 I know that in Japan the oldest in a same sex couple can adopt their partner to have some rights on succession and everything, it's quite disturbing at first sight, but somehow pretty smart, and I was wondering if there was something similar going on in South Korea...?
11:32 When it comes to Kdrama, Soljiwan forever ♡
There's quite a few lesbian couples in movies, as far as I know, are they good representation though, that's debatable I think...
13:04 Does it have anything to do with heritage, lineage, family name, something along those lines, ect...?
15:40 I'm actually genuinely intrigued by this, must have some similarities with the rest of the world, yet some particularities related to the Korean culture...
20:30 I think It's a pretty common thing, at least it's mostly the same where I'm from ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
well done Kelsey. You're the best🤪🤪🤪
Are you holding your mic with a fork? 😂
Thanks for this informative video! ❤
Lol I remember EXO doing those games! I’m trying to find some LGBTQ mutuals while in Korea so I don’t feel like I always have to put a mask on. 😅😅
I hate using terms I hate all that stuff because it’s SOOOOOO confusing to explain and explain AND EXPLAINNNNNNNNNNNN😭
Thanks for your take. For the record, while I definitely do not consider extreme slimness to be a beauty standard for the majority of American lesbians, I think it's much more popular among American bisexual women. Lesbian beauty standards here tend to favor more muscular, "butch" aesthetics, but many bisexual women are more fond of "girly girls." I personally fall into the latter camp.
Like the mic. Where'd you buy it??
Your eye makeup suits you, I like it. :)
is there any apps/places to meet lgbt friends? as a foreigner?
Is it so taboo in Korea because of the pressures of Family?
The fork 😅😂
For the last part of the video, what i can say as a brazilian bi/ lesbian (still trying to find myself kk) is that also in Brazil while the lesbian community thinks way more about relationships, the gay community is almost 100% about sex, i have a friend who's almost 30 and never dated for real because that's not what the other guys want, which i think is kinda sad?
nao pensei em encontrar um comentário de uma brasileira aqui kkkkkkk e sobre o que tu comentou é muito verdade
Is this the same for gay men? Gay male bars? Gay male clubs? Are female Kpop stars dancing/sexy ok with the generation who is 40 yrs. plus?
I want to date a Korean girl. They're so cute and kind :c. Korea should be more open to reality.
Well.. I think it's frowned upon in my country.. still.. a girl having a boyfriend is frowned upon so u can imagine... We have a laaawwwwnnnnng ass way to go when it comes to mindsets.... The older generations are not enough open-minded yet... When THAT changes, we can see some revolution....
U might want to wait until they die out; old folks are set in their ways bc they are too bitter and tired and know they aren’t much use in society anymore
Did you know nevertheless has a lesbian couple?
I don't know why, but who doesn't love gay interactions and shipping of artists? Why is that so hot? 🤔😅
In the US butch is a negative connotation. It’s used in the lgbtq+ community but normally if someone calls a girl a butch it’s not used in a positive way.
only if you think a masculine woman is somehow bad, which to be fair, society hates anyone who doesn't adhere by gender norms. but it isn't negative within the lgbt community, it's just a descriptor. and who cares what straight people think?
Its very shocking to know this thing because i seen idols behave like they are gay or lesbian infront of massive crowd and as a foreigner i felt yeah they might be gay because korea is a very well developed nation forward nation people might be ok with that shocking to know
I can understand the close mind of societies but to limit entry to the opposite sex from entering is quite mindboggling. Mind you certain bars/clubs have specified Ladies/Men's (exclusive) nights. Law's have been passed here that you cannot have a bar exclusive to one sex or another. Coming from the first official open gay community within a set district in North America (french Canada). Our attitude has always been one of inclusivity (as to better understand) their preferences and the misconceptions that others have. It's funny that the similarities between your upbringing and mine (and many around me) as were raised Catholic, went to Catholic schools and had to attend church. But now as a society (and the government) we have become secular (we have quite a bit of bad blood towards the Church)
15:48 no it's not true in the West or at least not where I am in FL but it's prob more of a thing w/ white lesbians who only date other white lesbians. Is there a lot of issues between Bi women and lesbian women in Korea??? In the U.S. a lot of lesbians don't like bisexual women and kind of tend to talk down on them or tell them they don't really belong to our community, it's kinda fucked up. I don't think like that and I am a lesbian but I identified as pansexual for most of my 20s and even I would get hate from certain lesbians in the US but once I realized that I was as gay as the day is long and only interested in women, I changed my label and all of the sudden, no more issues.
Omg, i jst noticed you were holding a fork this whole time😂
Plz ur rich mom story time 😢
6:38 I'm sorry that so many hateful Christians (and some will be something in the LGBT+ community, but this is mainly from straight/cisgender people) have gotten their way and made things so hard for you and others across the world. I'm sorry anyone did, but I am a Christian (United Church of Christ, and I go to a church that is something called Open and Affirming, which is to different extents for each church and person there LGBT+ inclusive and affirming). It's been painful and still is painful to see how too many people who are Christian or just use it want to hurt people in the LGBT+ community.
There is a difference between being scared it is a sin and also not understanding everything and being out for blood. So many people are in the out-for-blood category and it's paired with so many controversies, like the sexual abuse scandals and so many of these people not waiting until marriage or getting to do things that are seen as sinful or once were. They cling to the theological and social reform that benefits them.
You deserve to feel safe and cared for. As a straight/cisgender UCC Christian who has trauma from all of this too, I am so sorry.
My sis is a lesbian and lives in Korea, but she has had o luck in the online dating world over there. How do I get her into the underground community?
So sweet of you to want to help her 💕 she may have mentioned a few resources in this video.
Are you speaking with a fork- what the...
wait, so there's a lesbian community?? i was thinking there wasn't any.. I want to study there and i doubted bc of the homophobia..
In America we do use bush and fem
What's happening with your life? You are out of university and depression, so it's time to move on. I would like to see how you spend your days. Do you search for a job or travel for a while?
16:01 *she , respecfully just wanted to say
Same , I felt a bit weird about that part
I guess the difficulty of finding other gay women is universal thing
Pardon me, from your previous video I guess it was 3yrs ago?, u just said you’re straight but then I watched this video and you’re now bi?
Yes we do have same terminology here in 🇺🇸. I don’t like any of them
Apakah cewek Korea itu banyak yang lesbian??
Kelsey, so this is why JY from Twice with her short hair was labeled a ‘girl crush’?
Yet it seems to me that SA plays the feminine lesbian, almost to exhaustion.
Question, is this all by design?
JY is the girl crush and SA is the femi lesbian?? BTW I think it’s all an act.
Also why after all these years we don’t see Twice members date, or in any long term relationships? Their first contract is up and they are 25 years old. As a fan who is getting old I’d like to live long enough to see them have a family.
I believe a good relationship would help with mental health issues. I was so heartbroken when JY took her time out, and also MI?
Could you share your thoughts on my concerns? I just want them to be happy.
Signed, an American male ‘ONCE’ 🤠