When Clients Don't Want To Pay What You're Worth Do This Instead
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How is this guy taking risk? ua-cam.com/video/GoX94-uZhb4/v-deo.html
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That link is useless bruv
@@yermuther works fine for me. Did you copy and paste it? UA-cam is very picky about hyperlinks and therefore removes them and makes them text. So, the link is not useless. Just copy and paste in your browser.
sounds scammy... wheres the profit margin if you get 50% of product revenue.. not ad revenue from the video you're in, but the total GROSS profit... and you call yourself a business coach? actually funny
@@JnitraM078It's not allowing me to even copy the text
"Or you can just pay me what I'm worth and keep all the profit" brilliant!
That was genius.
Legit
He will find another designer and that's all. it seems to me, according to some reasons, that Chris's business is growing at the expense of inexperienced young designers who want to learn how to run their design business, but not at the expense of sales of "the futur" design services. now the demand for this in the world is growing, so Chris realized it and straddled the wave.
all he does in almost any video is convincing people that they can just charge a big price and the client will pay it! but in real business there are no role-playing games, but experienced tycoons who have a lot of their own methods of solving their business problems. and design is not the most important thing in their arsenal)) so such confidence of the local public reminds me of a sect, I'm sorry to say. I myself am a designer with 10 years of experience, so I know what I am saying.
But anyway I'm thankful to Chris for the channel as it brings value, no doubt! You only should think by your own head, guys😉
@@corallall True, but If the guy pitching the idea is awesome and you're being cheap, I doubt there's a better offer
@@corallall That's Ok though. We want to have client's who respect us and value our work by paying our high fee.
Calm, collected, and straight to the point. HE knows his worth and is confident in his work. Dude is a straight up Boss.
Real Talk keeping it 100.
@Echo Foxtrot negative thinking gets you NOTHING.
Per new customer man
You know the whole thing is scripted, right?
@@Icon_of_Design it's called being realistic. He isn't negative you are just gullable
"$1000 is a lot for you" was some low key shade thrown 😂
It is disguised as a respectful acknowledgement of boundaries though. It’s genius.
😂
@@professormurdoc1359 It's more than just respectful, for many that IS the reality. 1000$ is a lot of money.
For anyone for whom this doesn't apply, congratulations.
@@alanchung6843have you seen succession? don’t be a fragile non serious person. Anyone who gets offended by that A. Knows it’s true and may not be serious about changing that fact, B. Is seriously far too fragile and prefers putting emotions before logic. Not a good way to turn a profit.
@@postblitzyeah, F for people in Iran.
"A lot for you"
He honestly had him there.
Chris pitching technique is out of this world will follow closely till am as confident as he is
He's just doing what every other professional d has been doing for over 50 years.
Point is he isn't pitching.
That is exactly his whole point, and the reason why he's so confident. Pitching is when you're insecure
DAMN
His pitch is so good I wanted to hand I’m my 1000 dollars
Just giving an ultimatum???? That's not the only 2 options I mean sure he could take a royalty on each new customer but the other guy could've put a cap on the number of new customers..... negotiations people
This guy convinced me to give him a $1000 and I don't even know what they're talking about
hahah
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣☠☠☠
I do. He is Really Good. And fast.
But - I don't have what he's worth so I would try a counter offer.
Lol!!!!
"I take all the risk, and I rely on your honesty." 😂
risk taken = 0 😂
😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
That’s a masterclass in keeping your composure and getting your point across.
I aspire to be as confident as Chris when expressing the value I provide to future clients. This channel is the best!
Chris knows his worth. I love that.
I've been following his channel and approaches for some years and have rapidly improved - you will do too!
What is his Full Name, I can't find him only by Chris.
@@GauravKumar-ue7nz His name is Chris Do, and his details are in the video description
What's this dude last name or how can I find more of his vids?
“It’s going to exceed $1,000... that’s the whole point”
that phrase alone is a turning table
@@lewyathan well well well, how the turn tables....
Thats the whole video summed up basically. The context in witch it was used, and how it was applied.
*Know Your Worth and Charge Double* 💪🏾
What a power move.
These conversations are so crucial for creatives!!! Our work is so valuable!!
I appreciate how you are trying to create perspective to show people just how they need to deconstruct their views on things. This is hard to do, and often not a fruitful effort. Many people just think what they want is achievable while not knowing what kind of effort actually has to be made to achieve that.
He has a very nice way of explaining it.
Yup, calm and collected, it's the ideal business mindset lmao
@Titus Telesco yea I believe this is like a skit or teaching experience
@Titus Telesco racist much
Agree
He sounds like a feminist and looks like one.
This is why Robert Downey Jr got paid so well, he took a big pay cut at the start for a percentage of the profits of the franchise, and look what we have now.
I still got nothing
@@xNobl3x 😂😂😂😂
he one of the biggest actors in marvel
Jack Nicholson did that with Batman as well.
He didn't take a pay cut. He was an alcoholic and essentially ruined his career before that. Along with that Disney was making a movie off of a character no one cared about and didn't have confidence to spend millions on a role.all that said, every starting Marvel character makes next to nothing on the first movie.
What I love the most is that you can watch this in loop, all day long, and it'll still be a realistic conversation, between a service provider and a possible client.
"I want everything. But for nothing."
have u considered that the point has escaped u?
@@ibrahimhassan37he’s mocking the bearded buffoon.
It's the American way baybee!😂
Thats what I heard.
In this context, "nothing" = time + effort + uncertainty + rejecting other potential clients. It doesn't seem like nothing to me.
As an artist, seeing other creators stand their ground like this is really inspiring
Wow watch out we have an artist over here!!!
I’m your 600th like! What an honour!
@@lemonke3774 thank you so much!!! I didn't even realise i had any more than like 10 on this 😂😂😂!!
I'd rather see a consumer stand their ground and not get taken for an extra percentage strictly on the basis that the "artist" drastically over values themselves.
@@shadowm2k7 Wow I'm also a artist
This is basically every single interaction between a commission artist and an entitled person.
Correct
"Entitled". Oh boo hoo. Cry me a river. Don't like it, then don't take the job.
@@jordancobb509 oh boo hoo cry me a river don’t like it then don’t commission the artist
@@jordancobb509 then dont expect a quality product lmao 😂
SOMEone's a cheapskate deadbeat freeloader...!
Clever and polite entrapment technique. Both parties had time to understand. Loved this
Let him know that 100% of nothing is still nothing
Absolutely... so any percentage is bigger than 100% of nothing. 🤔
"Don't want to spend $1,000"
"You either give me more or $1,000"
I love the way Chris explains things
@opzz xsin Or you can pitch them like this and get a payday. But depends on the name I guess
@opzz xsin Acting entitled because of a little pushback is a great way for no one to wanna approach you
Or option C: Give you nothing because your a greasy little snake.
Lol! Yeah that’s incredible!
Or they hire one of the other 8 billion people in the world, nobody is special, irreplaceable nor unique.
“I really really don’t want to spend more than $1000 dollars.”
“Ok, $1000 it is.”
😂
It isnt more than a thousand
@@alexanderlloydmendoza979 really my nigga?! WOW!! 👏
@@Big_AlMC it seemed like nick didn’t understand 1000 isn’t over 1000
@@Big_AlMC dont call people that...
@@felix_cris4576 hollup, wait... It's not more OR less?! 🤯
"Ok, ill go in another direction, thank you."
You can always walk away, do not feel pressured into a raw deal, thats for both parties.
Excellent way to make his point. While being completely fair, and giving 2 good choices.
Sad thing is, the customer isn’t concerned how much he’s gonna earn, he’s concerned the other guy must not earn above a 1000 bucks. Even if its at the cost of customers own success. Small mind.
Amen bro amen if i was put on the way you talkin is the way i wouldnt be bc im hungry to leave my lil 8yr girl something to start with in this world so i agree with you bruh
@@Jaysonfear42069 preach
For real others don’t want u to level up on em they wanna keep u down and use u for all they can culture world for real!
Vulture world for sure!
Yup. This is the definition of a customer who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing. People like this are everywhere in every industry.
“Or just pay me what I’m worth, and you keep all the profit”-I felt that.
That line gave me chills
Blue collar motto
Truth resonates like that.
You can tell who is being greedy in this scenario.
Encouraging specially coming from the ghetto
@@prspktvmusic gave you chills? Lol
“I understand. $1,000 is a lot for you.” That line right there is powerful, and by adding “It’s going to exceed $1,000” delivered with confidence brings your closing skills to another level. It taps into the customer’s greed factor, “he seems very confident that he’ll bring me more customers. Why would I want to give him $100 per new client if I could just pay a flat rate $1,000 and keep the rest for myself.”
And that way everyone gets what they want, it’s a win-win for everyone.
With this guy's hesitancy, I would be concerned about his honesty to pay me what we agreed upon.
“…or you can just pay me what I’m worth, and you keep all the profit” was a mic drop and a half
Counter offer and limited % and time with graduated lower %. He makes 4x his investment. Added future videos to partnership. Never be afraid to dream.
@@michaelchavez2499 yeah it's called a 360 deal
@@michaelchavez2499 He doesn't want a partnership. He simply wanted to be paid what he's worth.
Not a mic drop at all. Any business person with a half a brain will just say thanks for your time and go with someone else. There are plenty of people who are just as talented, if not more, who will do it for less. Unfortunately, a lot of people think they're worth x amount of money when they're really not.
@@bloxyedits lmao you sound hurt my guy
This mans definitely good at justifying his job and price. I haven’t seen any of his work but the way he talks it must be the extremely good. Or he’s just an amazing salesman. Either way he’s getting payed.
@HansCoventrierengemacht lmao that's what he said 🤣
He have his channel, pretty good
@HansCoventrierengemacht lol
@HansCoventrierengemacht 😂😂
Amazing! And he's getting paid too!
Its gonna be a banger thats what got him. Set the value high, no longer talking the price
There’s a lot of people like that. They don’t value other people’s worth but want to keep all the profits out of your hard work.
50% is wild af the owner still has to pay for the shipping fees and investory out of his 50% yeah this fob is nuts slimey talker uses words like a percentage when he means half such an Asian strategy wants to take over half tne business to be a promotions guy he even said he can't control the market but wants half lmao
@@DBrokeMillenial 50% is an option he’s been given if he doesn’t want to pay the 1k he’s being requested. So if he believes in his business and wouldn’t want to split profits with nobody just has to pay the 1k and keep moving on with his projects.
@@DBrokeMillenialthank you. These is such bs post haha 😂 just shows how they don’t know how businesses run.
@@truckerstar24 your name says trucker so I'll put it in easier terms imagine you own your own Truck n free Lance for companies the company gets let's say 8k per load delivered you're asking for 4k of that yeah no business would take a half Loss like that they'll probably offer like 1k-2k and mileage pay what is it like $0.60 a mile or some sheet like that yall gotta remember art degrees are for scammers who love jobs that don't have set pricing or rates now if he's a Picasso or Banksy sure here's 10k 20k etc these promo guys all think they're like the Elon musk of art lol even Elon has set prices for his teslas he doesn't go oh my 30k car got popular let's sell it for 100k now
@@DBrokeMillenial but you take it if you want. It’s optional. You don’t have to take the loads you don’t want to run if you believe you’re being underpaid. Same goes for the guy he’s being given a choice of paying the 1k or giving up 50% of his business.. 2 totally different scenarios
Ah! yes, the negotiator....
Hello there
@@patrioticcat5768 General Kenobi!
@@Sela1 you are a bold one
Your move
@@balobadartist9022 u fool, I was trained in ur jedi arts by count dooku.
He really said something so gangster so calmly “pay me my worth and you’ll keep the profits.” Aka “ put some respect on my name”
Exactly
Worth is in the eye of the customer. Being cocky and assuming you'll always make your customer rich is a good way to toss any reputation you have into the dirt. I wouldn't hire this guy because there's gonna be other ways to get the results and his attitude just shows that he probably wouldn't be easy to work with either
@@SlowNSteady123 or it just shows you how much he believes in his work.Then he offered him to pay after, nah that guy knows what he’s doing and you’d be losing out…
Not necessarily “gangster” but it was profound 😂
@@SlowNSteady123 u are so wrong mate.
The consultant is helping the client to convince himself without realizing it.
I never tire of these exchanges
My favorite part of this interaction is actually when Chris calmly responds to his concern with "I only make banger videos."
A little bit of Do that lives rent free in my head :p
@Kingdom Cre8tive ....Are you serious? The AA originating phrase “living rent free in your head” means you constantly have someone or something on your mind. It began as an insult to people who were too concerned with you.
What's a "do"? Is that babytalk?
@@Pahrump it's his name , Chris Do
@Kingdom Cre8tive your'e so eager to spread self rightous judgement that you got the comment all wrong 😂
@@289rory jumping to a conclusion; will stunt your evolution
This is sales at the master level. Shift the clients perspective on what "expensive" really is to them
How can I contact that guy???
@@hawremullar336 I'm wondering as well
This seems rudimentary, and all you’re doing is managing people’s emotions and logic for them.
@@ianmartin4062Actually he communicates the concepts of value vs cost and investment risk vs reward/ROI in a very effective way - He provides the client with a choice that helps the client understand things from a different perspective. The client is able to come to his own conclusion about the true value of the creative's work.
That's just pure confidence in his talents
Epic moment! Chris applies the formula... Agree+Acknowledge+transition... He takes full ownership against a low offering.
he’s saying you have two options, pay me upfront or pay me through royalties. The deal is equally good for the producer, and that is the point. The client is worried about risk, so the choices shift risk.
@mikedabuc why?
Lol or he takes $500 and a percentage until he gets $1000. That’s going half, lol.
@@matthewwaller8784 You're clearly not the brightest. Why would he accept the original deal of $1,000 while then accepting percentage risk to only make the same as the initial offer? You dumb.
@mikedabuc ...that the client is not willing to take." Is the part you forgot. And they didn't meet at 1thousand, he just meant that 1thousand is the max. in terms of risk he's willing to take, problem is, the risk is bigger if he just get's the 1000 dollar product compared to getting a banger product but having to cut half of his profits. So it's either 50% or maybe Idk 10k for the same banger, wich would be then the clients risk, but on the other hand he would get 100% of the profits... it's not really shifting worth, it's shifting risk wich automaticaly shifts the financial component, but it's not making it bad.. the money might be worse, but the risk is way smaller... idk how to explain this even easier.. like.. have you ever pulled on a hoody string???
😂 these comments are too funny
This is just like jason weaver. Disney offered him 2 million straight up to be the singing voice of simba in the lion king. He said nah he took 100k and royalties instead. He made well over 2 mil since 1994.
Interesting. Thanks for up date.
Not the same instance. Completely different circumstances.
It's exactly the opposite 🤣
Lol
Same with Robert Downy Jr
playing Iron Man
Perfect example of 1 person completely confident in his work, and another that hardly believes in himself
I want this. I need this. I envy this. I want his calm composure and wisdom!! The way he articulated his response so well is nothing short; worthy of acknowledgement in my opinion.
Thank you. Here to help. Have you watched our other longer form content on this?
if he owns 50% of your revenue he's no longer a contractor, he would be an investor, he's having more faith that your company will do well than you do.
it’s for one vid that he’d be getting revenue not the whole channel
@@carrickstanley2543 per New customer in the door from sales so from the time the video goes out every customer that comes in he'd get 50%.
@@carrickstanley2543 then for that video, he's now an investor.
@@heavenlyrhyme2539 negative lol no money ever left his pocket, he can't legally be considered an investor. He is simply negotiating a royalty payout for services rendered 🤦♂️
@@I_am_Korben_Dallas it's isn't a technicality, he literally said it.
If this guy was a teacher at my school. I will never miss a day of his class.
The school is here on UA-cam.
FACTSSSSSSS
You'd be paying $200/min for it.
Thats facts
Yes you will, stop lying😂
As a business mindset. Better go for the second option and discuss the percentage to like 30% since he will do all the work.
You can't be greddy in business
This is an excellent example of removing the no deal from the customer mind, I’ll used similar techniques for over 30years, and is the must important lesson in sales, take the no deal out of the questions
He wants max profit, minimum effort, and zero risk. His waiting for all of those simultaneously costs him every day
The 'cost, quality, time' triangle hard at work.
There are other people that can do this job though. This is how negotiations work.
@@spaghettioverlord3247 I get the negotiation part but negotiation costs time. This guy wants compensation because of his higher level of skill. I can get a monkey to show up for less, but what will the outcome be. Companies always say “I can get joe for less” it takes a year to train him, then he leaves for better pay
Greed at its greatest.
Sounds like my ex wife
That’s the difference between who does, and doesn’t, have confidence in their product.
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Sometimes it's not about confidence.. it's about risk capacity.. if that risk wipes you out .. the confidence wasn't worth it.. ! If your risk is managed and you are under confident .. either ways you survive the least !!
@@rays7756 I’m sorry I didn’t understand anything you were trying to say. But it sounded like you don’t take risk. Wich I get. Most people don’t want too.
@@Skottink Well.. that's not quite right.. I do take risks.. all I meant is.. I take managed risks.. confidence has nothing to do with the outcome , it can take you either ways. So if you are confident and your bet goes against you in most cases you will take a hard hit. On the contrary if your risks are managed and you are not confident you still will survive long to take more calculated risks .. risk management is what decides how long you stay in the game.. confidence has nothing to do with the outcome.. all it can do is make you feel good .. that's all there is to it...lol
I have been the most confident guy all my life..still am .. but had never been that successful.. the moment I learnt risk management and combined it with my confidence.. its a different ball game now .. learnt this with time and experience.. sharing my two cents.. take it if you like it.. reject it if you don't.. il respect you either ways 😅👍 and yes no one can be successful without taking risks...so yeh I do take risks .. 😅 cheers
People need to have the conversation at this level.
"I understand. A thousand dollars is a lot for you." Lol, what a fcking insult. xD
it was not an insult here.
but yeah it would be a good insult if you wanted to
@@mysticflow467 Sure > 3>
Mans hit em with the “I know a thousand bucks is a lot … to you”
You caught that too😂
chino rockin the rolex sub while scrubby beard got wooden beads on strings
Its a lot to many people....
Yup😅
@@McCarthyism_by_UA-cam While you have nothing. Lol Worry about yourself. Haha
Great at using Psychology. First, he validates his concerns. Second, he uses risk aversion. Third, proposes a contrasting complex option. Lastly, I'm on your side, helping you save framing in words. All make his asking price more appealing.
Facts
It's not psychology, it's problem resolution and critical thinking while teaching someone about risk management. All he's doing is explaining it to someone that clearly doesn't understand business.
Something tells me a lot of people here know nothing of the aforementioned.
This is Sales 101
@@yupei5778 it is psychology, critical thinkin, and sales 101. There's A LOT of overlap between those topics
@@PBthesquirrel Psychology just assigns names to things everyone already knows
Thats y bro with the hat has a rolex on he's a smooth and honest killa 😅😂😂👌🏼
“I understand, a thousand dollars is a lot for you.” Hahaha passive aggressive but I like it
I used this logic when a guy asked me to do promotion for a dance party he was hosting: flyers, videos, etc. My normal fee is $150 of the final revenue (pretty generous, I’d say, b/c I’m relying on his honesty to pay me after the fact). He said he didn’t wanna drop $150 and asked to negotiate. I said okay: admission is $15, give me $5 per head. He agreed. The party ended up being a huge success and I walked away with $475.
Well done.
That's 95 people that went to the party (minus dj and ppl who got in free). How big was the venue?
@@commonintel we had more in average homes in the past....
@@Gl-my8fw all at once that would suck so bad to be at lmao.
I get that cringe kids with barely functioning minds might get a kick out of it, but a decently large sized single family home starts feeling packed with 60 heads.
Like 2 living rooms, small bar, large outdoor area, huge kitchen and dining room, still packed with that many. Let alone double that. What's the point paying for an entrance to a party that smells like ass, axe and weed that you can't even sit down at? 😂😂
So he only expected 30 people to show up from your efforts?
"I understand. A thousand dollars is a lot for you." Bro, I felt that
It was gently savage.
It's a LOT for me too 😭😭
its alot for him too, thats why he knows ^^
Yeah great way to lose a client
to the core
That’s a man with confidence. Very fair deal.
This should be shown in schools and colleges. This was so on point.
He isn’t saying anything new but he is just saying it with complete confidence and he knows the things he is talking about and he explains it very well.
Can you explain to me why anyone in their right God damn mind would refuse to spend $1000 up front and instead give up HALF of their potential future profits for whats essentially a $1000 loan. Who is this guy negotiating with, a toddler opening a lemonade stand?
@@757Bricksquad Yeah I thought he was gonna say like 10% or something similar lol, but 50%???? That's far beyond even mildly considering.
@@DatHombre that's the point
@@DatHombre but it is the most correct, he took all the risk, therefore the most gain.
@@757Bricksquad because it’s a hypothetical teaching exercise do everything is unrealistically exaggerated to highlight the concepts
I have to assume later after the concepts are ground in they will work to understand how it’s pretty much never this obvious and simple to negotiate
That is the corporate mindset in a nutshell, I don't want to pay what something is worth, I also don't want anyone getting upside but myself.
And that mindset works lol that's why they make alot of money, this guy isn't trying to sell himself to large corporations, he's trying to sell himself to small businesses. Because corporations are gonna tell this guy to beat it and pay someone else alot less to do half as good cuz it's still a more net profit to them. This guy is teaching you how to sell yourself and get what you believe your worth to be. Remember just because you value your product at so much doesn't mean someone else does
@@LaValle420 "cuz" no business explanations from you please.
@@DadeMurphie why don't you stop me then 12 yo on the internet?
@DadeMurphie you gonna do something about it or you just gonna chirp from the sideline like a conservative coward?
@@LaValle420 wow an unhinged double response crafting some political LARP fantasy strawman to live in your head rent free.
Do you interpret all conflict through a right and left political paradigm? Are all your beliefs and opinions the purest form of a true progressive and so any disagreement must be conservative? Can a progressive not chirp from the sidelines? Is it possible for you to disagree with another progressive or does disagreement automatically make them conservative?
It seems like a very wild leap to jump from a snide remark about casual abbreviated slang not fitting with business discussions to projecting broad political categories. So very tribal.
This draws your business acumen further into suspicion if you view the world with such a warped lens.
You said i will do the video for free but i will take a percentage 😂😂😂
Do the video for free. No up front costs. Only get paid if I get results.
The only question the “client” needed to ask was, what’s my LCV? If the average customer spends $1000 with you over time and is costing you $50/customer to acquire the customer, you don’t know your numbers.
The other question was, 50% of the first sale or of the clv? Which still can be a good deal depending on your margins
This is such a good way to sell. You shift the clients perspective from $1k being a lot to being a good deal once the client realizes how much potential value they will receive
Or LOSE
But he can take that money and make not so great a video.
@@tracker208 how can the client lose money if he’s doing the video for free and wants a rev share deal? The dude making the video takes on all the risk. If he performs, he gets paid. Or you can choose the flat fee. It’s up to you.
@@blackdynamiteSJC why would you hire someone that makes not so great things? In this scenario, the person hiring had already made up their mind that this service provider makes content or videos or whatever that they want and that is the reason they’re even having this discussion in the first place.
@@UpstateMan607 It obviously went over your head.
Bros too focused on the bag that he doesn't realize 50% of something is better than 50% of nothing
True but say 50% of something better than 100% of nothing.
It’s the same thing but has a little more impact in my humble opinion
both ways said makes sense to me when u think about it.
50% of something is better than 50% of nothing but its not better than spending $1000 to keep 100% of everything you could possibly make was the argument. Basically stating if your trying to sell a job to a client make them feel like the price your charging isnt overpriced but only a minor speedbump onto a long road of success. Atleast thats what i got from it
The hardest part of starting is starting. Spending money to start a business is the same as spending money on gaining an education I understand the guys concern. He's got a 1000 he doesn't want to lose but making money is all about taking risks
Yeah the m************ are always trying to make a deal I used to work at a tourist attraction when I was younger and the price of a pizza would be $20 and these m************ would literally say cash $15 cash 18 cash in a free drink like bro the prices are what they are.
Negotiations like this feel like an adrenaline rush to me, I LOVE IT
When Louisa May Alcott presented her manuscript for Little women to the publisher they thought it would sell to a very small audience and that they weren’t likely to make back the cost of buying it from her. So it was proposed that she let them have it for free but she would receive a small amount from every copy sold. The publisher thought that they had managed to swindle her and that she would get a tiny amount of money from the deal - until the book ended up being very popular and those royalties started stacking up and soon more that surpassed price they would have paid to purchase the manuscript from her outright.
There are so many bogus sales videos out there but this was a BANGER.
Thank you 🙏
@@thefutur I wish I had a business. I would trust you to take all the risk, more money than I would have had.
It’s still a pitch that consists of word play in order to manipulate the outcome. He just got dude to give him 1k instead of a hypothetical outcome that is so rare with just one video. To get result he is talking about? You need more than just “a video.” He made 1k and dude might get enough traffic to monetize a couple dollars. They all con men in the end and for every 100 people he gets 1k from? He MIGHT get 1-2 to actually make it worth their money lmao
@@mattfowler3760I'm going into business and seeing this actually makes me feel little better. That I'm not the only who may not know what I'm worth or the person selling me a idea. Con man is a strong word or the wrong word. I prefer hungry man😂. We all got to eat
@@monkeyflower954 That's an absolutely horrible deal to take for one video. I see why you don't own a business. Definitely just pay what he wants for it or find someone who will do it for $1000.
The client is basically saying “I’d like to get all of the profit and pay you as low as possible fir it”
That’s how monopoly capitalists train each other
That’s the backbone of capitalism/business
I mean if I was him I'd try to get that
That’s how business works. He shoulda counter offered by 25%
It’s definitely the American way.
this is like those karate instruction videos where the opponent just runs up to the "master" and the master just looks at him and the student falls down.
That's the difference between between your own boss (as an entrepreneur.or investor) and being an employee.. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Negotiation is such a lost art form. Glad to see it in action
Most small to midsize level companies still teach it. Large corporations usually don’t because they have the market cornered and can mass produce their competitors out of business.
Watch shark tank
I understand what you mean, I buy and sell on marketplace and there's a lot of people that don't know or don't care to negotiate sales or buys anymore. It's sad.
Looks more like the art of walking an idiot to an obvious conclusion.
He was using the situation as a teaching moment.
“It’s gonna exceed a thousand. That’s the whole point”
Flameee boi
Lmao
50% is nuts. Per-new would makes sense up to a certain date, or a certain number. Better yet to actually find out whether customers were actually reached by the advertising.
First of all the guy said he don't want to pay more than $1,000 which means he already told him it was more than that. He was trying to low ball him from the original price .That's why he counters with his offer to just get a percentage. So he said pay me what I'm worth or stop wasting my time. I love how you confidence in what he do and what is worth and he let him figure it out on his own.
This showed up in my feed. I don’t know who either of the people are but the guy who is offering to do the work is a straight up BOSS! People can learn a lot from this guy.
Everyone in that room is there to learn, they’re going through negotiation scenarios 😮
Chris Do mate. Deep dive. The guy is the design master.
Not a boss, but a leader.
Yea who is that guy I need to learn from him. Getting paid what your worth is my dream. I know he has a diff video on paying X amount per hour vs X per job. I hate when my boss used to say if your gonna do this job I'm expecting you to take this many hours otherwise I feel you didn't earn it. Plus the customer expects it to take X hours. My response was why do you care. If I finish in an hour and the job is done perfectly what does it matter if it took me 1/3 of the time "other people" spend. That whole scenario. So you pay me less cuz I'm faster and way more efficient. And you have some ridiculous time-frame. Not to mention a customer only feels like that because the boss conditioned them too. The end result is all a client should be focused on not some universal clock that doesn't exist.
So to that smart guy teaching get at me plz. I'd love to talk to you.
@@Northside-um1ry lol you really think “the smart guy teaching” is gonna “get at you bro”? Guaranteed he’s not scrolling comments looking for people to help for free.
Tried this at my job interview. Safe to say im still looking for a job
Build your reputation;) work in 10 projects almost for free... you have your portfolio... with great result... impossible to dont find customers
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Theres a difference between an employee and a client
Know your worth don’t give up
It’s not funny but you’ll get something I can feel it😭
Hell of a proposal! Love it
As a business owner one must accept the risk and the reward is yours
Being cynical, a guy that has the interest of 50/50 partnership is going to be a hell of a lot more motivated in getting things right compared with the guy that took the commission and is busy lining up others.
But the way a guy might try to achieve that might hurt the other guy in the long term. They don't share the same interest either way
A guy who has pride in his work doesn’t care either way
You are not lieing
@@robbiehurst Unfortunately, capitalism don’t work like that. Here in the USA, you can be sure that the more you pay, the better job they will do and vice versa.
@@damd2999 capitalism biggest misconception imo. In the USA, you are given the false sense of security that if you pay more it’s for better quality. Unfortunately this is not always true. Sure some goods are obviously more expensive for a better product. However, this video is not about a product it’s a service. Similar to the way your personal mechanic is probably a lot cheaper than a chain shop. They will do literally the same thing for vastly different prices
Who else is stuck in an endless loop of UA-cam shorts for no reason?You click on one and you just can't stop watching the rest
- copied
i just came across it, it’s the new thing, keeps everyone engaged and low attention level,
Cause that's what it's made to do. Keep you occupied. Just quit it.
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Same
ME
"I understand $1k is A LOT FOR YOU."
The hidden insult would close everything down from that point on.
Only a hit dog will holler. In case you didn’t figure that out-that was an insult as well 😂 😂😂😂😂😂
@KiaTheDMVBison the only person laughing, seems to be you.
Maybe but it's also a way of saying people pay more all the time because I'm worth it. So alot for you doesn't mean it's alot for what you're getting. The context and the way he said it isn't actually much of an insult. If you take it as an insult then you're not worth his(my) time anyway 🤷♂️🤷♂️
What about the insult where he's saying not only doesn't he want to pay the guy what he's worth, worse, he doesn't want him to earn above a grand?
What’s awesome is, this is confidence with zero zero zero disrespect. What a cool guy. Knows his worth.
This shows how confident he is about the work he is going to provide.
So was Jordan Belfort when he robbed people of billions of dollars. It's just a Poker face
@@DANGER10101 No? Like absolutely not. He has proven track record of helping businesses making profit. Videos are the number one assets to drive traffic to any website and thus increase sales. You can tell a crowdfunding campaign will be successful or not pretty much based on their video quality alone. If you don't have any track record, you can't pull this one off. He's not robbing people?!! He's offering a high-quality service. You think that charging more for a video is "robbing people"? Coca-cola spend 3 billions a year on publicity in average. They don't even care if they lose money in direct-to-consumer sales. What people like him charge is *nothing* compared to the traditional marketing agencies. Agencies are robbing people and been doing so for a long time. Not freelancers.
@@jas_bataille what does anything that you just said has to do with me saying everyone out there including chris puts a poker face on and tries to be enthusiastic and all sunshine to Clints? If you're not confident why should the clients? Like i said everyone does it's just a face
@@DANGER10101 and what does robbing people and poker face have to do with an artist being confident enough to take on risk for his client?
@@Supersctar in that at doesn't mean much since everyone does it fake or real
Worlds most standard tactic possibly ever… sometimes I just hate the internet 😂😂
This is sales mastery.. he made him come to the decision on his own.
"I'm concerned you'll make what you deserve and that will result in you getting a good deal" wtf dude
Haha
Right? Haha
The irony. People who dont understand value are worthless
Like dude what do you expect...FREE? Not gonna happen! 🤦🏾♀️
Well lots of people are like that they are selfish and want everything.
“What if exceeds $1000?”
*that’s literally why you’re hiring someone*
This is why most people are not successful. They don’t want to pay people for their work and they want to steal credit for it.
The risk factor of unknown results is worth more to either side. You can take the risk, pay him only $1000 for his work and own results (positive or negative), or he will take the risk and pay him whatever it brings in results (less or more than that $1K).
The words “for you” weigh so heavily - but he had the confidence to say them 😊
"... I'm concerned...we're gonna get a lot of clients in the door."
Bro, that's the point
I like his approach. When I dealt with new customers I got rid of the fear of rejection by saying, "they are going to do one of three things. Accept, reject, or negotiate." So I made a plan for all three. It became natural in time.
well done.
What was the plan for rejection? Did it include a gun?
Why 3 plans?
@@sohel4026 3 plans for each road that can be taken, if the deal gets rejected, it's only 1 or 2 things you can do which is take it, or try to negotiate the rejection, if the deal gets taken, thats done already so that plan is easy, and lastly the hardest of all 3 plans which is if they try to negotiate the deal, there's many things that could happen but it's up to your experience and smarts so if your super good at negotiating, you can use there wanting to negotiate to your advantage.
Next the guy will say he’ll just shout the artist out on Twitter for exposure.
Pay your artists and tip them. They do good work for you.
Or just pay them what they charge instead of tipping them. Shouldn't make anyone feel obligated to do that
@@Hybred Of course tipping is optional, but it’s nice.
@@magentaman7639 The dreaded exposure bucks!!
@@thefutur oldest crypto currency there is
Why would you tip someone you're already paying?
Smart way to get them to admit you're worth what you're charging.
“That sound fantastic “ 😂😂😂 2 seconds later…
"What's the hesitation?"
"I'm concerned that you're going to make a banger video..." Wait, isn't that why you're hiring him??? What a punk.
The hesitation is that he has decided that that guys time and talent is only worth $1000 to him and he does not want to pay more than that, now or later.
Also, this clip feels like a UA-cam version of Shark Tank.
@@brianneholds6914 it's exactly like Shark Tank. And if people in this comment section go ask for investment they're all gonna go bankrupt because they think 50% is a good offer.
Dont be a news headline, you heard the whole sentence.
His concern is the 50% cut.
That's the point of the vid this conversation is 100% not real lol
Nobody talks like this, it's scripted. The dude acts smart but doesn't understand how contingency works and yeah the other dude is stupid as well because neither one discussed a hard limit on what can be paid. I'm not giving 50% for all my increased business because not all of my increased business is because of your little project. Set a line at 2 or 3k but the deal is a rip-off.
Sooo good! I don’t feel guilty about my prices anymore. I charged low when I first started and that brought me crappy customers who didn’t value my creativity or my time. They didn’t value it because I didn’t value it. Once I realized that I was worth my creativity and my time then I attracted better and bigger clients who didn’t mind paying the asking price. This also automatically weeded out the people who would potentially waste my time. It baffles me to hear people who want a lower rate. What designers charge one time per project is far less than what the client invested in addition to what they will get back after selling X amount of products. KNOW YOUR WORTH!! You can’t get your time back.
Well said
Both situations would be winning scenarios if you think about it.
Losing 50% of the first sale is worth it if you get tons of new future clients.
This is the clearest demo of how to handle this objection I’ve ever seen. And delivered really calmly and non- threateningly.
Besides, he's asking fpr 50% of gross income. That would end any business. Cause you going cut another 30% on expenses. You getting scrap and doing all the work. Might as well work for someone else.
@@7InkredibleTruth7 It would be 50% of net profit. But it would also be a low-key hostile takeover, hence the worry.
This is forced partnership, and no business owner with a brain between the ears will take this deal. So they fall back to what the designer wants.
@@douwe4254based on honesty smh. This is not how you close a deal outside of negotiating "banger" videos
It's not that clear, first dude is getting the tattoo, but then he's the one that gets people walking through his door ?