ALL Cybermen Cameo Appearances + Story Rankings - Cybercember
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MrTARDIS breaks down all additional, cameo appearances and ranks all the stories Worst-to-Best for the conclusion of CyberCember!
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The painting is a reference to the wreck of the medusa, a naval disaster with the crew and passengers drifting out to sea in a giant makeshift raft. The crew eventually resorted to cannibalism to survive. Maybe the link the cybermen is the utter desperation to survive.
Yes- definitely what he said, plus, incidentally, it formed the cover of an album by The Pogues back in the 80s.
By Géricault. Often referred to in English as the Raft of the Medusa. I saw it in the Louvre in 1974. (Disengage Smug Mode)
Nice take on how that alludes to the Cybermen! A whole planet adrift, the people turning to terrible measures to survive.
“Silver mirror” would be a good name for an episode like you described. Also, I can imagine a team of scientists and engineers, working in isolation due to the pandemic and collaborating online, developing this technology. First ventilators that can be made in a garage workshop with 3d printers and such. Then, artificial lungs for those too far gone for ventilators. Then neural pain suppressors to make the artificial lungs bearable. Then more subtle suppressors for the emotional pain of so many deaths. Then,finally, as they one by one succumb to the disease and are forced to use this tech to survive, the realization that humanity must change its fundamental nature to survive. Thus, Cybermen.
Holy hell that sounds absolutely amazing
Yeah a bit to real for a show to get away with but still a brilliant concept
That's a cool idea.
Merry Christmas!
I'm going to miss Cybercember. It was a cool thing to look forward to each day
As that Talk Talk song Such A Shame yeah such a shame that the Cybermen have few stories in the Tv show they are such genious creation but they barely were use.
i got chills when you said "wouldn't you like that pain to go away" because that is such a government thing to do wow
OMG 10:06 - 12:52 gave me chills. You are actual genius. That’s exactly what I’d want in a 21st century cyberman story. Humankind WANTING conversion to escape corruption and all the other pain going on in the world. Rise of the Cybermen and Age of steel terrified me at the time of broadcast but even at the age of 6 I knew it was somewhat poignant and compelling. Tomb of the cybermen is also a masterpiece can’t deny that. Just found your videos a few weeks ago and I’ve been binging Dalekcember and Cybercember simultaneously, it’s incredible ( made my December so much better) Im loving this kind of content and I can’t wait to see who you cover next 👍🏻
Handles Is best tardis team
Chibnall can pull out as many secret doctors as he wants as long as he brings back the one and only cyberlad
DAVIS Reference
Handles probably should have been introduced in Nightmare in Silver and literally carried on through the Time of the Doctor.
F in the chat for my boy Handles.
@@omegawilliam95s36 *our boy
If I remember correctly in The Mind of Evil when the keller machine attacks on the Doctor, Imagines from the Doctor's enemies by pass including a War Machine, a Ice Warrior 'Slaar' and a Cyberman.
The painting is based of "the Raft of the Medusa" by Théodore Géricault a painting that much, much bigger than the one on the show. It is pretty much the biggest and most impressive painting of the Louvre.
I myself had no idea that painting was so big, having seen it in so many books. The Mona Lisa on the other hand is just average size since it’s a portrait.
Excellent Cybercember! Also, I don't know why I there's a note on my desk telling me to tell you great Silencember too. Don't know what's that about.
As someone who's trying to write a Cybermen story, this marathon has helped a lot, to identify the pro's and con's of these villains. So kids, what have we learnt?
1.) The Cybermen are not robots, but are not humans. Don't make them emotional, but don't make them emotionless.
2.) They should be the main focus of their story, and work best when they're not playing second fiddle to another villain.
3.) For God's sake, give them a simple plan with a simple goal, that doesn't have 20 steps and plot holes.
I want to see progress on your story, friend. You sound like a professional rather than a run-of-the-mill FanFic writer.
Which TARDIS team does your story feature?
You say it as if the BBC have commissioned your script 😂
Simple plan Ay? Okay, bet. The Cybermen… find a way to start breeding.
Little thing, in An Adventure In Space And Time, there is a Mondasian Cyberman (well it’s an actor in costume) at the beginning of the film
Really enjoyed this series. Really highlights for me the struggle the series has gone through to rush a fun adventure yarn to the screen rather than better exploring the massive sci-fi ideas and concepts it either borrows or develops. Not content with merely reviewing this stories, it's these kind of insights that show what the TV show is truly capable of achieving. Thanks and Merry Christmas!
Kudos on a wonderful Cybercember! May Cyber-Steve and Cyber-Geoff live on in our hearts (and any excuses to cameo you can cook up) :)
what an achievement. Watching you tackle a story from my favourite doctor who antagonists each day in the lead up to Christmas has been so fun! I'm actually going to miss cybercember. Thank you!
I must admit that even by neglecting many things, you perfectly captured the meaning of the Cybermen: the original term Cybernetics refer to a branch of authoritarian sociology, not mechanical augmentation scene.
Interestingly, the word derives from the same Greek root that gave us the words "govern", "government" etc: κυβερνᾶν, (roughly "kubernan" in English letters) means "to steer".
@@ftumschk a cyberman is literally a political man
@@PhilippeLizard Well, a "governor" at least.
These reviews were absolutely amazing! You should be so proud of this project, it really has been great.
Handles surviving could have made him the revived series answer to K9
*[YOU BELONG TO US...]*
*[YOU SHALL BE LIKE US...]*
I like that idea of what to do with the cybermen, it takes the idea and evolves it well, fitting in great with modern issues. I think that it would definitely make for an interesting story.
I have an idea for a trilogy of stories, the first two parts would be told together and the third part would be the Christmas special at the end of the next series (this is from my own 5 series layout of what would I do with doctor who). The first part is has an aliens feel, the doctor arrives on a colony, on an asteroid on Christmas day, in the middle of a cybermen invasion and after running into some survivors they try to help them escape but the characters get picked off one by one. At one point befire they die the parents of a child get the doctor to promise to look after her (the doctor also takes a liking to her like they do with anyone who is worthy of being a companion) but near the end the doctor loses the child and leaving the other survivors to escape they run back into the colony to rescue her from conversion. Unfortunately the doctor is to late, they prevent the erasing of their memories and emotions but that's all that remains and after destroying the cybermen in a moment of rage they take her to a care home in the future, one that specialises in cybernetics.
Part two would have the cyber program take control, with the converted child taking people over, until the doctor gets them to fight back against the programming, the child cyberman dies but in the process frees the remaining cybermen of the programming and creates a whole new race of cybermen. Saddened by the loss but happy about the new future of the cybermen the doctor leaves to their next series of adventures.
Part three would pick up after that series finale (possibly after the storyline where I'd break the doctor, with galifrey under the master, who also caused them to regenerate, the monk and the rani's rule, secretly controlled by the valeyard, who in an earlier story turned out to be the meta crisis doctor after rose's death and have a series of them being built back up after giving up on the universe and running away) and the doctor ends up several hundred years after the previous events. There they learn that at some point the entire cyberpeople where marginalised and scapegoated and finding the last of their kind frightened and alone the doctor is determined to save them. This doesn't end well, as the story would end with the cyberman dying in their arms but the image affects the public and some characters in the story see what they have done and decide to do something to change how the world is. Tired and not caring the doctor leaves. This one being more about fear of those who are different.
I'd definitely want to bring in more of the body horror element and more of the tragedy element and run with that.
Happy Cybercember! Defintiely gonna rewatch when the compilation comes out later. This series has really broadened my view of the Cybermen's potential, especially love your idea, giving me chills just hearing it. Thanks Trilbee
I don’t think the story proposal at the end really lines up with what makes the Cybermen work. It would be interesting, sure, certainly a new angle where Cybermen are concerned- but the whole ‘brainwashed by the oppressive ruling class’ thing has been done to death for decades, and it would unavoidably result in that same problem of the Cybermen playing second fiddle to the real villains. If you make out the Cybermen to be victims to anyone other than themselves, it loses that crucial sense of inevitability that makes them so scary.
In my eye, what makes the Cybermen scary isn’t the idea of this horrific process that has been forcibly done to them; it’s the idea of this horrific process that they did to themselves willingly, how they’re only trying to share what they genuinely view as a better way to live. There’s no malice there, no evil schemes (at first anyway), Cybermen are just something that becomes more likely to happen the longer a society goes for; no matter how thriving or how miserable the starting population was beforehand.
4:50 That painting is a recreation of The Raft of Medusa, which I believe is currently in the Louvre. It's also on an LP cover my dad owns.
Probably Rum, Sodomy and the Lash I shouldn't wonder
it is in the Louvre; if tourism will ever be a thing, it's worth to go.
Thanks for the daily event. I looked forward to each day, each review, each in-depth insightful opinion and I enjoyed every second of it. I died for 3 minutes in surgery in the middle of this year and recovery has been slow. The idea of cybernetics to enhance life or remove emotions is a very potent thought in my mind now. This was a rough year for us all and it's UA-camrs like you who keep us informed, inspired and entertained. Looking forward to maybe a Master-cember? Who knows. Who... knows.
I think the best thing to do with the Cybermen is to give them their own episode. No Daleks, no Master, no other villains unless it's a Tobias Vaughn type who is being used by the Cybermen, just the silver giants. Focus on the body horror (as much as a family friendly show will allow) and the loss of self. Show their strength and physical invulnerability, but also their inability to understand emotion. For me, World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls and The Haunting of Villa Diodati have been a return to form for the Cybermen. Portray them like that.
Also, I would love a Cyberman story where Ashad is resurrected as a Cyber-Planner and the story is interspersed with flashbacks to Ashad's backstory, with the Ruth Doctor being involved and serving as the Doctor's connection to those flashbacks.
Huh.. I didn't know nor never noticed that Cyberman painting on The Day of the Doctor.
Nor me; and I saw it on the big screen at the cinema twice!
Mr TARDIS in Previous cyberCember videos “I have to make these videos 2 months in advance because of UA-cam copyright system”
Mr TARDIS in this video: “I have to hurry up because I’ve got to cook Christmas dinner”
My god man, that better be a good Christmas dinner if it takes you two months to cook 😜
So over the course of 2021, I'm guessing we'll see a compilation of Cybercember and a Cyberman timeline like with the Daleks beforehand.
I hope so.
plus mastercember
@@drwhotvwam I think he mentioned he's not doing that... at least not in 2021.
@@Jedi_Spartan awwww that's a pity
oh wow, you snapped near the end there. In the best way.
Could definitely see Charlie Brooker doing an episode like you described at the end.
11:26 - Personally I think it would be more subversive, interesting, and closer to the Cybermen's origins to have a guerilla, desperate opposition decide to remove pain, emotion and hurt to confront those inflicting it.
That way your story is about where you draw your moral line when fighting corruption ("do you have to become a monster, to fight a monster?") And it reflects the tragedy of the original Mondassians, who just wanted to survive, and turned to technology - but went too far.
I also find it more logical than a population turning to their oppressors for the solution.
That may well be more logical.
But, look around at 21st-century Earth. Twitter, TikTok, Twitch, Teams - it seems we're all online more often than not. And isn't the "latest" Google or Apple phone sold more as a lifestyle than as a tool?
It's been a very enjoyable 26 days watching all of Cybercember, you did a fantastic job Mr TARDIS, Merry Christmas everybody
Finally someone covering the cameos needed this for so long
Thanks for a great month of reviews MrTardis.
MrTardis, not only is your story premise brilliant, but your essay laying it out was searing and evocative. I hope you end up the DW showrunner one day.
Thanks for Cybercember, it was ... excellent!
Superb mate, a wonderful series and worthy follow up to last year. I guess as recurring villains go, for filling an entire month, I can't wait for next year's Mastercember!!!! Mastercember... Mastercember... You. Will. OBEY!
I'll go for the obvious joke - excellent! This series has been a comfort during the end of a grim year. Props for the hard work on all the videos - hoping plenty of people see them!
I cool idea for a companion would be a Cyberman that instead of dying when seeing what it really is, over time comes to terms with it as it travels with the Doctor. I think that would be a cool concept.
Edit: Fun Fact: That Dalek is from the Time War, it is the only one that got down there.
Looking back, the Cybermen really are a missed opportunity most of the time. They seem to have a few too many episodes that have them in it that aren't about them. The treatment between Daleks and Cybermen is huge, despite the Cybermen being seen as the shows second biggest villains.
Also I had no idea there was a Cyberman painting in the 50th, that's absolutely amazing
This year I have enjoyed Cybercember, It was another good run of these videos like Dalekcember last year, It is all the best we needed since 2020 was a hell whole year, Nevertheless we will fight through this evil covid, Until peace is restored to our world.
As the Cyber Controller said "We Will Survive" oh yes we will and Merry Christmas to you and everyone.
To be fair Handles was the one Moffat death that was actually permanent.
11:28
Those lines would make for a good opening.
The Raft of the Medusa is what this Cybermen painting is a take on, a famous painting of the survivors of a terrible shipwreck.
That ending monologue tho…
*slow claps*
The classic Dr Who Cybermen are the best Cybermen in billions of ways
Here's a cool idea, what if we got a new companion, except at the end of the season this companion got upgraded, but perhaps like Bill they manage to somewhat reject the programing, unlike Bill though, what if this companion stayed with the Doctor?
Merry Christmas!
Incredible cybercember! Your idea on what to do with the cybermen gave me literal chills.
Well, going back to having a 'Kroton' type character, what about having an Earthshock to Attack of the Cybermen design?
I honestly like your idea about people willingly being turned into cybermen as an escape. On your closing time I review. I said how I can completely understand the Craig beating of the cybermen after hearing his sons cry.
Not to bore you with my own personal story, but sometimes when I watch dr who. I think. If the cybermen were converting me. Yes I'd put up a fight. But when they start announcing how it would free me from pain, emotional baggage, stress, worry, greif. I honestly think its possible I'd loosen my grip on my own life. I'm not dying. I'm still going to be here. But not have all my problems anymore. Its understood how humans may be tempted by that. But if I heard any of my children cry out or just caught site of them in fear. I'd snap. My submission would just disappear. I'd certainly feel like I would be able to rip a cyberman peice by peice to protect my kids. Not myself. But them yes. Definitely would be a good exploration to visit. Maybe it could tie into why Arshad volunteered for the ultimate upgrade.
Here’s my ranking of every cyberman Story I’ve seen:
1. Earthshock
2. World Enough And Time/ The Doctor Falls
3. Tomb of the Cybermen
4. The Moonbase
5. The Invasion
6. The Haunting Of Villa Diodati
7. Attack Of The Cybermen
8. Rise Of The Cybermen/ The Age Of Steel
9. The Tenth Planet
10. Army Of Ghosts/ Doomsday
11. The Next Doctor
12. Ascension Of The Cybermen/ The Timeless Children
13. Revenge Of The Cybermen
14. Nightmare In Silver
15. The Wheel In Space
16. Dark Water/ Death In Heaven
17. Silver Nemesis
18. Closing Time
Handles was one of my favorite companions! He was a trooper!
Great job as usual Mr Tardis! Here's hoping for Mastercember next year. Maybe even Sontar-cember the year after if it's not too much trouble?
I think Unicorn and the Wasp had a minor cameo as well as I recall a Cyberman chestplate or something in the Doctor's possession or something with Agatha Christie's book.
I think part of the shadow hanging over the Cybermen is not only the fact that they're playing second fiddle to the Daleks, but that they're kind of playing second fiddle to Star Trek's Borg as well. Those guys really stuck their claim as cyborg icons of assimilation (and them having an exterior of visible organic and technological components adds to the eeriness). It helps that they work as such a great mirror to the philosophies of the Federation and had quite a few impactful moments (and even a film). While they did get watered down overtime that peak is something the Cybies have never quite managed.
"We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We shall add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile."
Great series, I loved every episode - even when our subjective views differed. Though I agree, the master needs to ignore the Cybermen for a long while.
100% That "Tomb Of The Cybermen" deserve to be in the first place, but also ironic that "Dalek" and "Dark Water" made the same mistake said this Cybermens are from "The Invasion" but is clearly "The Revenge Of The Cybermen" heads but anyway this Cybercember was fun and Merry Christmas to everyone.
I think next year would obviously make sense as Master-cember like probably everyone else has been thinking, but I think the year after that would make sense to be UNIT-cember. There aren’t any other villains who have enough stories like the The Daleks, Cybermen, and Master. The only other entity in the Doctor Who universe that could rival them in story amount is UNIT. I did the math in my head, and if you subtract the stories UNIT shares with the previously mentioned three villains, they have a perfect 25-ish amount of stories. Maybe even more than enough!
Great end to a great series!
" The Cyborg Handbook" by Chris Hables Gray has some fascinating essays on what makes us cyborg, and is well worth a read if you like your science fiction based on science fact!
My favourite is the wheel in space cyberman who cameos in the invasion with the hilarious roof stunt.
I love handles
I'll admit, the boot allegory was very on-the-nose, but I can concur that this year would be a perfect way to draw inspiration for a true, good, Cyberman story. Honestly, I think I enjoyed CyberCember more than DalekCember.
There's something quite awesome about Mr TARDIS ranking the Cyber-Man stories to Cpt. Jack's theme.
Guessing someone hasn't seen the bodycam footage...
Great vid.
Silver Mirror sounds awesome!
The painting was also used on the front cover of the Pogues album Rum, Sodomy and the Lash; in that the faces of the band members were imposed on the shipwreck victims.
My ranking of all the stories is as follows;
1: Earthshock
2: Tomb of The Cybermen
3: World Enough and Time/ The Doctor Falls
4: The Invasion
5: The Haunting of Villa Diodati
6: Attack of The Cybermen
7: The Tenth Planet
8: Rise of The Cybermen/The Age of Steel
9: Revenge of The Cybermen
10: The Moonbase
11: Army of Ghosts/Doomsday
12: Silver Nemesis
13: The Next Doctor
14: Ascension of The Cybermen/The Timeless Children
15: Nightmare in Silver
16: Closing Time
17: The Wheel in Space
18: Dark Water/Death in Heaven
I actually think the Cybermen are also the perfect base under siege villain. You don't have to establish what they want outside of having a minor character get converted, Ashad showed conversion isn't even a perfect process and can lead something way worse than if it's completed so getting saved part way through might be worse than getting killed. They're a ceaseless, needless mirror of humanity, one that won't stop until they've accomplished their goals and forces those under siege to make decisions to survive.
You forgot a Cyberleader's apperance during the fourth regeneration's during logopollis.
That doesn't count, It was a clip from Revenge of the Cybermen.
I actually had an idea for my own Cybermen story. To put it simply it's a retelling of my all time favorite movie: Fritz Lang's Metropolis. My idea was that the Doctor and his companion(s) accidentally take aboard Fritz Lang and his wife (at the time) Thea Von Harbou after a quick trip to 1920s New York (where Fritz Lang got the spark of inspiration for Metropolis). They go to a distant planet with class struggles and retro-futurist art deco designs and on this planet the Cybermen get started as a means to make the workers more efficient by turning said workers into them. A different take on what was the original purpose of Futura the robot from that movie.
Just like with Dalekcember last year, I have thouraghly enjoyed Cybercember. Gave me something to look forward each day in this abysmal year. Aswell as Christmas of course!
Here’s my own Cybermen Story ranking as it stands right now as I am currently rewatching the Revived series:
1. Tomb of the Cybermen
2. Earthshock
3. World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls
4. Rise of the the Cybermen/Age of Steel
5. The Invasion
6. Army of Ghosts/Doomsday
7. The Tenth Planet
8. The Haunting of Villa Diotadi/Ascension of the Cybermen/The Timeless Children
9. The Moonbase
10. The Next Doctor
11. Attack of the Cybermen
12. Silver Nemesis
13. Nightmare in Silver
14. Closing Time
15. Revenge of the Cybermen
16. Dark Water/Death in Heaven
I haven’t seen (or heard) Wheel in Space fully.
So what’s next for December 2021? Mastercember? Weepingcember? Included expanded media like with Cybercemer. Regenerationcember? Could cover the Regeneration and post Regeneration stories you’ve yet to cover. Would be appropriate if, ONLY IF, Jodie Whittaker announces her departure from the role come 2021.
Don't know if this counts but in 2012 there was a comic published which was a crossover between doctor who and Star Trek the next generation. One of the main villains was the Cybermen
The Age Of Steel, introducing Cyber Trigger.
I’d like to see this, in Series 13 and 14- and I mean your idea for a cyberman story, it’s rather fitting- it’s already been established, there’s civil unrest and growing corruption in Britain in the Chibnall era, probably even worse than our Britain (if that’s even possible)- and, yes. Perfect for a cyberman story. You could even link it to the origin to Ashad from ascension of the cybermen.
Still hoping for a Master-cember.
The cyberman painting reminds me a bit of Washington Crossing the Delaware. But only in its basic outline.
Finally more Handles Appreciation
Handles makes me cry more than 11 regenerating...
Guess it fair to separate the Villa episode from the two which dragged it down
But overall the ranking seems pretty good imo
18. Dark Water/Death in Heaven
17. Closing Time
16. Silver Nemesis
15. The Next Doctor
14. Revenge of the Cybermen
13. The Wheel in Space
12. Nightmare in Silver
11. Army of Ghosts/Doomsday
10. Rise of Cybermen/Age of Steel
9. Ascension of the Cybermen/The Timeless Children
8. Attack of the Cybermen
7. The Invasion
6. World Enough in Time/The Doctor Falls
5. The Haunting of Villa Diodati
4. The Moonbase
3. The Tenth Planet
2. Earthshock
1. The Tomb of the Cybermen
I have always been a fan of the stories where the Cybermen are front and centre and not playing second fiddle to Daleks, the master, etc. That's why I'm a big fan of the top 4.
I think the story I'm really keen to see would be one focussed around the origins of Mondas and the Cybermen's birth on their planet. A story that shows the desperation they got to for survival and how they had lost all hope. I always thought the initial state of the humans in WEIT and TDF were great, the look of the gowns and the blue liquid inserted in to them is haunting. Overall the other gripe I have is with the design of the Cybermen, I feel they lost a of of the cool voices and looks over the re-designs.
Have a merry Christmas you all!
The painting might be a parody of the one in Bill Adama's quarters that depicts humans fighting Cylons during the first Cylon war (Battlestar Galactica).
On TV, the Cybermen sometimes have it tough. But their good stories are all-time classics:
1. World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls
2. The Tomb of the Cybermen
3. Earthshock
4. The Haunting of Villa Diodati (make it a standalone and slight rewriting to focus more on Ashad and this would be number one)
5. The Invasion
6. Rise of the Cybermen/The Age of Steel
7. The Tenth Planet
8. Attack of the Cybermen
9. Amy of Ghosts/Doomsday (not their best showing, but it's a solid finale regardless)
10. The Moonbase
11. Nightmare in Silver (guilty pleasure)
12. Closing Time (really turned my opinion round on this one, it's really solid, fun Who)
13. Cyberwoman
14. Ascension of the Cybermen/The Timeless Children (certainly more interesting to talk about then any of the ones below, plus Ascension is just a solid episode in its own right)
15. The Next Doctor
16. The Wheel in Space
17. Silver Nemesis
18. Dark Water/Death in Heaven (redeemed by good production and strong standalone scenes)
19. Revenge of the Cybermen
Great CyberCember, will you at any point do a Series finale ranking? I remember The Pandorica Opens and The Big Bang used to be in your top 10 stories, but you recently said World Enough in Time and Doctor Falls is the best finale since The Parting of the Ways, so it'd be interesting to see how your perspective has changed
Excellent!
1:40. Mr TARDIS, you forgot another Pertwee appearance- in 'Mind of Evil', one of the doctor's fears is a Cyberman. You can just make it out.
Excellent
4:33 is that the fourth doctors scarf?
My ranking of The Cybermen stories would be:
1. The Invasion
2. World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls
3. The Tomb of The Cybermen
4. Earthshock
5. Rise of The Cybermen/The Age of Steel
6. The Haunting of Villa Diodati
7. The Tenth Planet
8. Army of Ghosts/Doomsday
9. Ascension of The Cybermen/The Timeless Children
10. Attack of The Cybermen
11. The Moonbase
12. The Next Doctor
13. Silver Nemesis
14. Revenge of The Cybermen
15. The Wheel in Space
16. Closing Time
17. Nightmare In Silver
18. Dark Water/Death In Heaven
My ranking:
1. The Doctor Falls / WEAT
2. Haunting of Villa Diodati
3. Earthshock
4. Ascension / Timeless Children
5. Army of Ghosts
6. The Tenth Planet
7. Age of Steel
8. Nightmare in Silver
9. Tomb of the Cybermen
10. The Next Doctor
11 to 18 can be any order
19. Doomsday
I'm sure part of the cybermen suits used in the 2nd doctor episode "the invasion" was used for the cybermen in the 4th doctor episode revenge of the cybermen
That political stuff near the end got so real. i forgot what i was watching. Now, I will retreat through the breach and regain my home mind.
I think we will get Ashad’s origin as we still don’t know how Jack knows about the him and the Cyberium
Could do a series on villain species that only appeared once, which had no cameos or mentions again
I’d like to see a Cyberman Companion, who starts as a Mondasian Cyberman, and every few stories, gets upgraded to a later design. Like, first 3-4 episodes Mondasian, next few episodes are Moonbase Cyberman.
As stated though, Cybermen aren't Pokémon. To have a Mondasian Cyberman as a companion, in isolation they would stay as a Mondasian Cyberman. That was the only part of The Doctor Falls I thought was a bit naff. Especially when the Cybus-men were used. Considering they are a parallel to those of Mondas & Telos.
Tomb is my favourite 2nd Doctor story.
There is also a cyberman head in the day of the doctor
I love the idea at the end. I drafted these lines to see what they sound like:
Doctor: Look at them! They’re starving in the streets. Marginalised and abused, your workers. Your friends. Your fantastic government has lined their pockets with their money and run. They’ve lied to you Gen. There are people dying on curb corners, look at them! No wonder you’re depressed.
Gen: Well… they say they have a thing for that now.
Doctor: What?
Gen: They call it… the depersonalisation program.
Doctor: What does it do?
Gen: Well, eh… no-one really kno-
Doctor: Gen. I am being deadly serious right now. Tell me what that means.
Gen: You… you can still see what going on… but… you’ll just stop caring about it.
Doctor: … that’s it then. They use you and abuse you, and you don’t even know it, but theres something isn’t there. Something in the back of your head telling you something wrong. And they can’t have that. So, when the slightest chance of removing it; of being ignorant to their actions come along… no wonder they’re taking it.
... I've seen this before... Along time ago. And I hoped I'd never see it again, but I guess thats the point. The Cybermen can appear anywhere when desperation comes to call.
That sounds like it'd be an awesome story. I'm imagining this as a 14th Doctor story with The Doctor being played by Michael Sheen. I don't think this idea would really work with Jodie in her current form. But with a 14th Doctor played by Sheen. Giving us an ever so slightly darker Doctor, after some incredibly traumatic event that causes 13 to regenerate. I think this would be a good finale for his first season.
Side note: This is coming from someone who really likes Jodie's doctor. I just think a story like this is a little bit too much for her Doctor. Michael Sheen giving us a similar sort of Vibe to his Character in Good Omens, aziraphale, but with a slightly darker edge to him would be awesome.
Yes, yes he is
I would love to see next December on Sarah Jane Smith, since 2021 marked 10 years since Elizabeth Sladen's sad and tragic death.
Same can be (unfortunately) said for the Brigdier.
3:42 - Also proof that 'Blood of the Cybermen' isn't canon then
Blood of the Cybermen as well as all the Adventure Games happened after Series 5.
@@isabelh5561 Where is Rory then?
@@isabelh5561 Amy asks who the Cybermen are in that game as well
@@rowanc88 Same goes for the Wii game. Amy even recognises the Cybermen in that
Where does the "the most precious thing on the earth is the human brain" line from the intro come from?
Rise of the Cybermen, John Lumic
@@yourfriendlycynic654 cheers