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The Mondasion Cybermen are still my favorite. The way Moffat was able to make something creepy from The Tenth Planet into something truly scary and dark in World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls. That is still the best Cybermen story of the modern era
Pain. Pain. Pain. Pain. Pain.
(Me watching the The Timeless Child's use of the Cybermen...and just the whole episode in general)
@@obiwankenobi687The Cybermen of 'Rise' /'Age' are just stomping thugs. That's not what they are about. They are insidious, hiding and planning - for decades in the case of 'The Invasion', building IE factories worldwide - and centuries, in the case of 'The Tomb Of The Cybermen'. Their way of working is infinite patience and stealth. I get that on 'Pete's World', The Cybermen might have always been stomping, somewhat mindless drones, but I was disappointed by them. Mondasian Cybermen are creepy, they don't care, and they will either kill, or convert you. They took Mondas out of the solar system to seed other worlds with their ilk. They returned, tens of thousands of years after they left, and were so puzzled as to why their scheme to suck earth dry failed, they have tried several times to correct their failure. Now that, in my books, is patient planning.
Such a shame Bill ended up as a Cyberman
@@obiwankenobi687 she still became one though
The return of the OG Mondasian Cybermen made me giggle like a schoolboy. That was brilliant!
I would gladly pay for an animated adaptation of Spare Parts, the best cybermen story.
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME!!!!!!!!!!!! It's such a crucially important story.
4:06-5:35 is one of the best scenes in Doctor Who ever. It made the Cybermen my favorite baddies. Banks Cyberleader portrayal has never been matched.
Those are the Cybermen I grew up with
It was... -e x c e l l e n t- (haha funny)
An interesting selection, skipping past all the iconic (but often seen) 2nd Doctor encounters. Nice to see the 80's Cybermen getting the attention they deserve. :)
The 60s cybermen were undoubtedly the coolest from all of classic who
@@tom_4615 I will admit Tomb is by far one of my all time favourite Classic Who stories. For me it was also the only time I found the Cybermen scary. It was the voice and the blank stare that did it for me.
The Cybermen are my favorite recurring foes in Doctor Who. While the Daleks are pure hatred and extermination, the Cybermen tap into the idea that this is the most horrible form that humanity could become- cold, uncaring, only preserving what serves their purpose and eliminating everything that makes us human, most importantly, empathy. They reflect the worst that humanity can become, and in some specific cases probably already have aside from the hardware. To me, they reflect the world back on itself less obviously but more truthfully than most recurring monsters do, and sadly not enough people get the idea.
Indeed, that is what makes them so very horrible. They are us, perhaps, if we choose the wrong paths.
It's worse when you realize that the original Cybermen only came about because they needed to survive due to a catastrophe that risked destroying them. They did it to protect their people, but robbed of their emotions, they literally couldn't conprehend why others wouldn't want to be like them.
@@KLGChaosExactly, by doing what they did to survive, they removed the ability to recognize what made them who they were before, anything other than what they’d become was lesser and had to be “upgraded.”
The Cybermen are my favorite villains. I didn't know that they went back so long (Since most of the episodes are unavailable) I love it!
The 80's style Cybermen are still my favourite, especially in Earthshock.
I really do miss that odd, uneven way they spoke in their first incarnation.
The Mondasian Cybermen are still the creepiest of all the versions
We need to get David Banks back as a Cyberleader again. His EXCELLENT is unmatched
He returned as the Cyberleader in 2018 and 2019 audio stories.
Idc what anyone says the wheel in space cybermen are my favourite
Teagen: "What am I thinking seeing all these Cyberman?"
Fifth Doctor: "Adric."
It’s Tegan.
@@sg-zd8eb Pardon?
They really need to bring back David Banks as the voice of the Cyber Leader. He’s still intimidating af.
I went to a talk by him last week- he's definitely still got the talent!
Feel the Earthshock and Cybus stories are great touches, while the Ashad story had potential, just a pity he was ruined for The Master, only positive was brought back and given another chance, but the Mondasian version with Capaldi was well done too.
How can you skip over the tomb of the cybermen!
One of my favourite classic who stories
Criminal
Don't forget Rise of the Cybermen / The Age of Steel
and the cybermen in 3W@@toainsully
I want to see more of the original Cybermen from Mondas of “the tombs of the cybermen.” They were scary
The Tomb of the Cybermen was a great story.
For me, there could've been a Cybermen story being the only focus of series 12 and then, the Timeless Child arc could be solved in Flux (imagine the Master being in the control of everything: the Daleks, the Cybermen, the Sontarans, the Angels, the Grand Serpent, Swarm and Azure and Tecteun. That really could be epic.
I was always disappointed you never saw full versions of the lone cybermans armour you can tell it’s different to the other versions I would’ve liked to have seen cybermen with the full armour.
Ive got custom figures made in that style, used them in my old cyber stop motion. I called them the Cyber Juggernaut's as they are bulky. They look like they can withstand massive beatings and still be standing.
The mondasion cybermen will always be my favourite. That's how they should be portrayed, people in metal suits, not robots with a stomp how nuwho has portrayed them. Seeing some of their human parts is what gave the cybermen that creepy factor. Series 10 final 2 episodes with peter capaldi were perfect as it really brought that horror factor to people being converted
Who the Hell do you think you are? Because it's quite the God complex to so brazenly act like the ultimate authority on how cybermen should be portrayed. Sounds like you're just hating on something you don't like.
@@philosotree5876 Triggered much?
Dodging the topic much?@@animelovers000
@@philosotree5876 Not at all, just funny how you got triggered so easily and went on a rage on my opinion is all
Yeah, funny how I'm sickened by the fact that everybody treats their opinions as facts, and then has the audacity to think people who challenge that are overreacting. I will not be gaslit, or strawmaned. I want you to gave me a single reason why anyone should believe your conjecture.@@animelovers000
Classic doctor who didn't know how to write the Cybermen after Patrick Troughton's era.
Giving them an emotional voice defeats the point of them.
Honourable mentions:
The Moonbase
The Tomb of the Cybermen
The Wheel in Space
The Invasion
Revenge of the Cybermen
The Five Doctors
Attack of the Cybermen
Silver Nemesis
Rise of the Cybermen / The Age of Steel
Army of Ghosts / Doomsday
The Next Doctor
The Pandorica Opens
Closing Time
Nightmare in Silver
The Time of the Doctor
Dark Water / Death in Heaven
World Enough and Time / The Doctor Falls
The Haunting of Villa Diodati
The Power of the Doctor
You can see the influence of Star Wars on the earthshock cybermen
Poor Adric, I wish he wasn’t killed off
I spent much of 'Earthshock' (I was a dismal 9 at the time) hiding up the other end of our freakishly long living room, under a table, because I was terrified just at the sound. I don't think you could explain that today. We were in a context before.
2:18 The DJ Cybermen - They always wear large headphones! 3:05 weird synth walking noise!
The Cybermen is 2nd to the Daleks in terms of my favorite Dr Who Nemesis. When these 2 enemies of earth are fighting the Dr, it's like there is no way he will save the day and our planet. Somehow the Dr finds a opening and then those 2 lose the battle.
Cybermen have evolved so much. From a race trying to survive, to trying to spread their survival means across the universe into a cold, calculated, army marching to victory
The mondasion cybermen are still creepy today
I still say as much as I love Star Trek, it is criminal how popular the Borg are in North America, and yet hardly anyone knows the Cybermen (who I am sure were copied)
Ascension Of The Cybermen was really keyed up ❤
6:14 this is the most ridiculous thing I've seen lmao. I love the ADR exposition as if we couldn't see what was happening.
GOofY aSs FAceS
Jodie's cybermen was brilliant design.
Agreed, the lone cyberman really looks like a being who has been through hell and would be truly evil.
@@matty543210098 doctor skipped tons of Troughton episodes here.
Well...some of them. Let's not talk about the...hybrid ones.
@@johngurnhill8743because most of it is lost
Agreed, the only difference i would make is to remove the shoulder horns, as to me they did look a little cheesy, also maybe remove the "ark reactor" as it does make them look a little like iron man. Genuinely though, the design was perfect, capturing almost every era of design
Wow so many missing cyber men examples, instead we get half a video of the Jodie Whitaker one??
Earthshock and Moonbase are my favourite designs by far
The first cybermen sound like PAMA from Minecraft Story Mode.
Always the best will be the 5th Doctor Cybermen. Unmatched and just awesome.
@4:30 His deep voice reminded me of Darth Vader… half human half robot, evil… wait!
Excellent
Accessing… Bill Potts. Locating… Bill Potts. I am… Bill Potts.
They made this Cyberman so scary now but they are still my favorite enemies alongside the Daleks, but God they’re scary 9:17
Jodie’s got 10’s fury.
The cyber drones should have attached to the survivors heads to partially convert them like the cyberslaves in the adventure games
Much better idea for their usage, but still wouldn’t have fixed how goofy they look. And that’s coming from someone who loves the Cybus designs the most out of them all.
Why the Capaldi era Cybermen are absent from this comp?
2:21 ah the great Beryl Reid
Nothing from 2006 - 2017?
OH MY GOD THEY UPLOADED A VIDEO ABOUT THE CYBERMAN. THIS MEANS WE WILL HAVE CYBERMEN IN THE 60TH. CONFIRM.
Kinda hope not, honestly. Cybermen have been the major big bads in so many recent "big" storylines, I'm ready to take a break from them.
That doesn’t mean anything
My favorite Cybermen episodes were when the 2nd Doctor finds them in the Arctic, when they invade Earth & fight the Daleks, and when the 12th Doctor finds that they were posing as ghosts.
Why bill s cyberman scene is not here ??? It s my favorite cyberman scene it s so emotionnal
for me its the 80's cyberman
Have to say that I preferred the Tom Baker era Cybermen but you didn't include that version.
With The unhinged Sassy CyberLeader.
What, the one's who's chest unit was held on by their nipples?
WHO would scare you most? Cyber men or their distant cousins the Borg?
"The Cyberdrones are just the advance guard"
Yeah okay but they took no casualties while destroying their defences and then flew off. What, did they hit their preset kill limit?
No love for the Invasion and Moonbase Cybermen? Bummer, at least we have the Earthshock Cyberleader
Mondasian Cybers and the ones from moon base were the best they have ever been
Best Cyberman episode was the crossover with the Daleks
The mondassin cybermen were best. The ones from Davidson era were bit silly. They reminded me of Darth Vadar.
I allways wanted a cyber matt as a pet
I was expecting to see every cyberman design
The Cybermen evolved while the Daleks stayed the same…
Makes perfect sense really.
Cybermen whole shtick is updating themselves. Upgrading.
Daleks see themselves as perfect already.
Modern Cybermen are clearly funded by Stark Industries.
First Doctor Who villains to kill a major, long-term companion.
Yeah, but it was Adric, so nobody gave a f....
Major companion? LOL 🤣
@@patriciaramsey5294Two part question :
Adric, Wesley Crusher and Scrappy Doo are pushed off a cliff.
A) Which one hits the ground first?
B) Who cares?
The Earthshock Cybermen are still the best. Seeing the chin just adds to the machine x hunan, unlike the others, more so the Nuwho versions, as they are too mechanical.
I liked the Cybus ones because they felt like a natural modern evolution. Very industrial, while still retaining all the classic design cues.
Everything after that just started to look like Iron Man, though, and that’s when it started to get stale and generic.
Cybermen are awesome question for everyone favourite Cybermen truthfully?
Bill. That was super creepy with the old design. Specifically when they were sitting in the room with the fabric over their heads, but before they were converted completely.
Tom Baker era.
@@stationsixtyseven67 great choice 👌
@@2429Ryanspeer TY :)
@@stationsixtyseven67 you're welcome
"Humans converted into emotionless monsters...."
...sometimes I get the feeling we don't need any aliens for this, mankind is on its best way to achieve this all alone...
Don't you think of anything except yourselves
Erm no, they don't
I'm a Cybermen fan.
I always found the Cybermats more creepy than their creators the Cybermen.
The Cybermen in classic Dr Who are billions of ways, better than the Cybermen in new Dr Who and also the new series Cybermen are terrible and clunky they are robots
They missed some
No Cybus episodes in this comp. Disappointing. That was the last time they were actually threatening in NuWho.
How have the skipped over tennant, smith and capaldis cybermen?
I like The Cybermen
Just a question: The Mondasian Cybermen still need humans to make mor Cybermen, right? So, how was it done if there wasn't humans on Mondas? Or was there?
The Mondasians were a human-like species that converted itself into the first Cybermen, that´s why they are compatible with humans!!! Some stories show this context, like The Tenth Planet and World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls, as well Spare Parts!!!! (An audio story that directly shows the genesis of the Cybermen!!!!).
Love me a Cyberman but I'm kinda hoping RTD puts them on a the back burner a bit, at least for a little while. Feels like we've had a lot of stories involving them in recent years, including one that's....best not spoken of.
Which one?
@@philosotree5876well, we don't talk about Bruno (no idea which op was referring to)
I'm just personally hoping that if the Cybermen do end up being used again, it's for their own purposes & goals instead of being tools for The Master like they were for the latter half of the Moffat era & the majority of the Chippnal era.
Ok, you want to see the same stories over and over again, got it.@@manofmercy1500
My favorites are from the attack of the cybermen
They are pretty rational, I don't see why they are the villains
You skipped some good examples.
I must be the only person who would love to be a cybermen, emotions , mental illness can really mess you up. Hence huge suicide rates,
Old Over New
Why?
Real.
Still scary😱
What about the Voords?
I think most people would be incredibly confused if the Voord were included here, the fact that they evolved into Cybermen isn’t widely known.
@Cybermat47 it's so annoying how they're always forgotten or ignored. They're part of the Cybermen's origin.
@@KarlDowney well, part of one group of Cybermen’s origin. The Cybermen from Mondas, Telos, parallel Earth, and the Mondasian colony ship had different origins.
My God, that show tried everything to beat the Daleks. Make it look more or less the same. And then strayed across the biggest body-horror plot of all. Still not done properly, of course (except, occasionally, in print). Whatever generation you are, they were - and are - your worst nightmare.
This is an “excellent” compilation.
My timeline today: The Beatles Now and Then; Cybermen Then and Now. The algorithm knows me too well.
DELEEEETE! DELEEEETE! 🤖
Plays 2 clips of cool Cyberman. Proceeds to play clip of Cyber Drones. Cringe!
0:44 CyberManspreading. Sorry, I'll go now.
The interior of the Tardis was a lot tidier in the past lol
And better looking for it. The best interior was the 1983-89 version.
Once they had character and were a terrifying possible future, now they're stompy robots, who get defeated by the power of love.
The power of an emotion overcoming beings that attempt to repress those emotions in their victims. It's like there's a theme or something to the stories...
Don't be a liar.
Real.
Like the original Cybermen voices, not the Darth Vader sounding reboots.
The 60's cybermen were excellent. The 70's and 80's cybermen were awful. The modern Doctor Who got them right again.
The only 80s Cybermen I enjoyed was Silvernemisis and Attack of The Cybermen
Despite the tirades, the Chibbers era continually presented us with unexplored concepts. And if we can develop ariel forces, then a technologically superior race will. Purity be damned. This is the 21st Century.
I Hope that RTD can create the Cyberwomen soon!
He already did in 2006.
Isn't gender like a foreign concept to the cybermen?
@@theknightsofawesomeness2701Yeah, even in Doomsday when talking of being upgraded the Cybermen state they will remove things like gender, race, etc, how all will become identical. Though there was the Cyberwoman in Torchwood but that was because she wasn't fully converted.
You're thinking of the one in the kinky steel bikini in Torchwood. 😛
@@nicholasdickens2801 I Mean next year in Ncuti's era of DW?!
Most bad guys in long running sci-fi show change. How about the Klingons in Star Trek.
The 70s/80s cybermen were such a downgrade from all the 60s stories
ahhhhhh. maybe i am sexist. Or maybe she's a bad actor. but she doesnt work as a doctor