2004-2008 F150 Died Out No Crank Theft Light Engine Compartment Clicking P1233
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2014
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In this video I walk you through a streamlined diagnosis of an F150 that won't crank intermittently or will crank but not start all of a sudden. The dead giveaway is the clicking noise in the engine compartment. - Авто та транспорт
Thanks Brian - this video got me off the street, in route to work at 4:45 this morning, in the rain. I was able to swap in a good fuse, and go the last 2 miles to work. I got my truck off the street safely and will check the fuel pump module when I get it home. I owe ya! Chuck in NE Kansas
Huge fan of your channel . Ford 2005 F-150 Lariat owner here. 169K miles and running great. So many of your videos have been ON POINT. This video was text book exactly what was wrong with my truck and shut down on me on the high way. Keep up the great job on your very informative videos! Thank you for your (Ford Service) !
Another great video. I never miss your videos and just wanted to let you know how very good you are at explaining these problems and their solutions. I was a Ford mechanic in the 70's and 80's and depend on UA-cam now to keep pace with all of the changes. Thanks again and I look forward to all of your future videos.
My '08 died while driving and threw code P0191. Checked the Fuel Pump Driver Module after watching this video. It was cracked in half and was corroded right through the bottom of the module. Replaced and problem solved! Thanks you saved me $!
YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!!!! All the way from Indianapolis the diamond standard in HVAC sends it warmest regards, a standing ovation is in need right down to the clicking symptom
You just saved me a great deal of money. Exactly what happened to me. Smell of electrical sealed the deal from the rear. Ordered part, changed fuse and off I go. THANKS!!!!!
Wow.. fuel pump driver module was the cause...The knowledge you are giving us is so invaluable... thank you
Dude preciate the your videos this guy here definitely knows what he's talking about because as soon as you follow his advice your on the road again thanks again bud 💯
That was actually quite easy. Followed all steps. I added new battery to the mix. Put it together not really thinking it would start...lol. But it did. Added note...I could tell this module had been replaced once already which added to my doubt of a fix. But the "LiL" Puddle Jumper 2 is back on the road! Thank You so much. Another added note. I attempted no other fixes. I typed in my symptoms and your video popped up. I ordered the part off Ebay and went with it.
LISTEN man....i want to give ou 1000 thank yous becuase out of the blue my f150 shut down lucky after 20+ times let it sit crank it crank it started......made it to my driveway and clunck........ok im a 25 year exp mechanic but i retired 5 years ago so my exp stopped back then so im looking at my truck saying if theres spark,, fuel ,and timming it has to run ,,,,,,,i watched your video last night and this morning i looked at the fuelpump module and guess what lol i just wiggled it a little and it broke in two.......man thank you for saving me and at the same time educating me on this problem i owe you a cold beer bro
Nothing like coming home with a load of building materials and boom, no power. Changed the fuel filter, then cleaned the mass air flow sensor. Nothing. Watched your video and changed the module. Boom, instant success. Thanks for the share and helping the not mechanic guy. Saved me some money to put into my 30 Plymouth coupe.
This just saved me a lot of stress. My truck was no start no crank. This was exactly what was wrong with my truck. I have an 04 F150 FX4. I didn't have the clicking in the engine compartment, that was the only difference. But my Fuel drive module was cracked just like this one and my fuse 34 was shot. This happened out of nowhere, came out of a restaurant and truck wouldn't start. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO!!
No problem!
Cost?
Can you tell me where is it located on an 2004 f150 heritage old body style??
I love the way you take your time to educate D.I.Y'RES, I'm one of those that don't like mechanics around my area so I choose to fix it myself all the time. And I always go to your channel to find out before any other channels. I've learned how to do a timing chain on my f150 5.4 3v thanks to you and now how to diagnose this problem of truck dying while driving. Much love and much appreciated 👍🏾 thank you so much!!!
I HAVE A 2008 F150. THE ENGINE CRANKED FAST BUT NOT START. IF IT DID START IT WOULD STUMBLE DOWN THE ROAD. CHANGING THE FUEL PUMP DRIVER MODULE SOLVED THE PROBLEM. AS ALWAYS, I AM HUMBLED BY THOSE THAT HELP OTHERS ON THE NET. THANK YOU SO MUCH!
I have a 2001 ford expedition i läost all my keys and replaced ignition cylinder and anti thefr is flashing i have no programmied transponder keys is there anyway to bypass anti theft without spending 300 on a key
Have a 2002 f150 new fuel pump fuel filter new battery checked fuse's there good relayes can any one help
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Thank you so much for making this. No mechanic could tell me what was wrong with my truck and I had replaced almost every part in the starting system other than the PCM. I was about to drop it off at the dealership until I saw this. This fixed everything.
cape cod , MA here....tons of corrosion between road salt and beachs / salt air. DORMAN also makes an updated FP driver module also. its actuallly pretty good and comes with rubber spacers to avoid that metal on metal corrosion.
just wanted to say thanks. this video and others i ve seen for u ....very knowledgable. thabnks!!
Thank you for doing this!!! I run a small shop (just me), no schematics typically and this made the diag super easy.
You're videos and expertise are spot on! Thank you so much for providing us with a detailed description of the issue and telling us what to do to fix it. Once again, I was able to fix my 04 F150 XLT and I owe it all to you! Thank you very much!
A HUGE thank you for posting this video. It saved me an expensive tow during a downpour.
I watched your video that shows this module, but it must have been for different year f150. Mine is an 08 and this one is it! I have no problems, but after watching what could be a future issue I went ahead and lowered spare tire and removed module to make sure it was in okay condition! All good, just cleaned out the sand grudge etc on the module, bar attached and sprayed and cleaned using rust protection. Thanks again for your help!
those driver modules are a pain.. I took mine off and put some rubber washers to make clearance from the frame and put nickel antiseize all over the back of it just as a precaution. 3 years later still no problems. good video brian.
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Just bought an '07 with 82k and the spare tire in bed. In process of putting spare back noticed the broken module. Broken exactly the same in video, aluminum frame of it split in half crumbling. Wondered what it was, this was the first video I ran across. Believe it or not the truck still ran for as good as a Ford and a 5.4L can. I'm glad I found this video and have replaced module so future owner doesn't have this happen. I'm glad I'm a GM guy, Ford is so bass akwards in the way they build stuff. Thanks to #FordTechMakuloco
Great video. That same poorly designed and poorly placed Fuel Pump Control Module is also present on later model F150s and Expeditions. It was certainly the cause of these problems on my 2010 Expedition. The No-start problem seemed to start with wonky relays in the engine bay fuse box, and the only temporary fix was for the under-hood relays to be changed around by my daughter every morning to get it to start so she could go to work, but I finally heard about the Fuel Pump Control Module issue, as I was about to drop the fuel tank and replace the pump. I learned that the in-tank OEM pumps are extremely reliable, and that fuel pump/fuel pressure problems are usually caused by a very corroded Fuel Pump Control Module. However, many people are happy to replace your fuel pump if you ask them to, and will usually put in a new module to make it all run. All I had to do was to replace the Fuel Pump Control Module, and the problem was solved for my daughter.
2006 f150 fuel rail
great video! i usaully just put 2 fuses in the connector to bypass the module so you can drive it into the shop.
This past month I’ve spent 4600$ at ford and you’ve literally described every single thing wrong with my truck. Checked the fuses and sure enough they were blown. I had a nice spare fuse for now but I don’t have the cash anymore to just buy the module yet. THANK YOU so much. Ford swore they checked up and down but yeah… they wanted to now replace my pcm along with all fuel injectors as well as other things that totaled up to over 7000$. I will change this in a week or so. But thank you so much man.
@fordtechmakuloco
I often say that You Tube makes me smarter than what I really am! Thank you for your video!
You saved me man! Stuck in Florida on a trip and you saved me
That is what I call product knowledge! Thanks!
It certainly helps with these odd issues.
This video saved me! My truck did this 2 weeks ago and finally got the problem fixed! The only thing is that it keeps popping that fuse even after I replaced the driver control module.
I have been working on my friends 08 ford truck I have checked all the codes an fuses an I couldn't find anything no bad fuses nothing.... Thank u very very much I will be headed out to ware truck is before daylight to fix it Ian so excited thanks again.....
Man, I'll tell ya. Working on any newer vehicle that has even a hint of electrical technology installed, you would probably have more fun trying to pick fly crap out of black pepper with boxing gloves than try to figure out how or what to do to make any kind of repair. Thank goodness for experts like the one here, cause I was ready to throw in the towel and the white flag, too! My 04 Ford F-150 was doing the exact same thing as mentioned in this video. Thanks a million for the invaluable advice and knowledge.
Thank you, I started to pull out and my truck died. I could smell something burnt check gauge was on and the security light was flashing. I thought my whole wiring harness was shot. Thanks again
BEST VIDEO ABOUT THIS ISSUE
This is 1 GREAT video, Thank you so much for sharing, saved my Butt.
thank you you just solved my nephews truck . Great tech !!!!!!
Thanks a bunch!!!
Awesome video, was exactly the problem.
Cheers for posting this video.
Thank you! You're the man!
This may be useful to others. My truck died while idling. Fuse 34 was still in good shape. Theft light was not erratic. I could crank all day long; no start. After changing the fuel pump driver, it started
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That sounds like mine. This helps me find reason to investigate this module further.
This was my exact problem... Thanks for saving me headaches and $$
You are the best not only do you explain it so well by far and a million thank yous to you
Thanks for the explaining and walk through help alot keep turning ratchets
Excellent video and content!!! Thank you Brian!!!
Thanks a Lot My Friend, Excellent Tutorial Like Always !!!
This video is fantastic. You described the symptoms and the repair perfectly saving this back yard mechanic and father of three a ton of time and money. So I offer this: May God bless you and your family both spiritually and financially, AMEN
Amen in Jesus name amen
Great vid! Im going to check mine for corrosion.
Thank you !!! My 2005 F150 died yesterday ! Saw your video and fixed it in 10 minutes ! Thank you again !
also check ground connection right above module for the plug harness mine was rotted off also!!
This guy is a life saver
Thanks so much for the info. It really helps.
Sorry to bring up an old video but would you be able to just the starter and get the vehicle running with these problems. Have have one doing something similar but I'm able to jump the starter and the truck runs just doesn't run well
you did help me on my f 150, thank you for info
do u have a video about fuel gauge problems? mine says quarter tank of gas and I know there's more then that. thanks for any help
Thank you for sharing this information
My module actually bit the dust after going through a huge puddle. I went through said puddle, pulled up to a stop and went to pull out and it stalled and rolled right in the middle of the road blocking traffic. Luckily I was able to limp it home and get the replacement module shortly after!
My 04 f~150 is still doing fine. : )
Thanks for the heads up tho.
Hey Brian, got a question for you if you have a minute. Symptoms: Truck starts no problem after sitting over night. If I drive somewhere then turn it off... then go to start it again after a short period, it cranks and cranks and stumbles and tries to start but won't start right away... takes a few tries then stumbles to a start. The dash keeps reading "check gauges". I checked for codes with my OBD2 reader... no codes/problems listed. ALSO... when driving down the road... if I hit ANY incline... when I'm going around 25-35 mph in 2-3 gear it will stumble... seems like a misfire. Again, check codes and it reads nothing for misfires. SOMETIMES when I go to start it after I have driven somewhere then restart shortly after... IF I wait a little bit after turning key to power on... it will start with no issue. What the heck is going on? Fuel pump?... but misfiring only in a certain range on incline...? Hard 2nd start with "check gauges" but not first start up? Also seems to be running "rough" at idle SOMETIMES at stop lights... other times it's running smooth. Also, when it's running rough at idle, if I put it in neutral and give a little gas to increase RPM's it's smooths out with no roughness. Please help. Any advice is greatly appreciated sir.
Another outstanding video, thanks for all you do. I'm going to go look at that module on my '08 this morning to check it out. Living in Maine they put all kinds of crap on the roads that like to cause corrosion issues, I'm sure I will have this problem at some point.
I've got a 2008 f150 4x4 4.6 2v and it all of a sudden won't start. if you spray the throttle body it will start then quit so I'm assuming fuel. I changed the driver module because it was rotten right through. Still won't start. Would your next guess be the Fuel pump?
Great job with the explanation
This channel should have a "buy him a beer" button next to the subscribe button. An absolute legend :)
Gidday Brian; I have just enjoyed your video on the F150 FPDM. As power was realised on both sides of fuse # 34; did you have to replace the complete CJB to replace the failed diode at contact-A? Many thanks; we enjoy your work and appreciate your efforts.
+gerard kavanagh No the power loop through is from the failed shorted fpdm so once it is disconnected the power should be gone.
Question if you have the igniting switch for the fuel line if it doesn't stay click down stay down will that forbid you not to start your vehicle
I have the exact same problems in my 2003 f150. I cant find fuel driver module. What is its equivalent? Will run when using starter fluid.
On my 05 Mustang GT, after about 30 minutes of driving my engine will stall quickly, no bucking or anything, just a flat stall... the first light that comes on as the stall occurs is the theft light, solidly lit.
It’ll crank but not start for about a minute before it starts up again.
I ran a data log and forgive me cause I don’t know what I’m doing but the log shows that the FPF (fuel pressure fault) goes from NO to YES about 2-3 seconds before the stall occurs.
When the stall occurs, I have multiple pcodes,
intake camshaft p0010 p0020,
evap p0443 p0446,
obd readiness p1000,
ecm/pcm p0689,
charge motion p151a.
Any idea if that’s indicative of a failing FPDM?
Any advice if the truck runs fine but check engine light came on and it scanned fuel tank pressure sensor? 2005 f 150 5.4
Thanks for the vid.
Mine wasn't cracked in half but was corroded real bad. Went ahead and replaced it with the newer version as a preventative measure.
Well after watching this. I went out and put Ford XG-3-A dieletic grease in all my relays and inspected them.
I also realized I got both a power steering pump cooler and water cooler for the oil system. I never seen that.
Claude Rains why on earth would you put dielectric grease on relay terminals? By definition dielectric prevents electric current from flowing. It is used to seal out the elements from corrosion, not to help continuity. Amazing how many people have this bassackwards.
Wow never seen this, keep up the good work
My 99 f-150 , will crank in the morning no problem and never cuts off , but after it's warmed up go somewhere and cut it off get back in and start it it takes a while for it to start up ? But it will start , if I key it 3 or 4 times before trying to start it it'll crank right up ? Is it the fuel pump?
I have an 04 expedition and it wont start... im pretty sure it the whole fuse box..... The car wont even attempt to start, all the interior lights and power door locks and windows dont work as well as the radio when the car is in the run position.... I just bought a brand new battery and still does the same thing.... Every once and a while you here on click from the engine bay..... No dash lights either except the only light that stays on is the yellow airbag light. I have tried to jump it with my chevy tahoe and nothing changes....... Any Ideas?
I have these exact symptoms, can't get a check guages but same clicks in engine bay. brand new part that you linked to but still doing it. fuse is good.
Mine looked the same but it was on a 2005 Explorer. It was mounted INSIDE the car. (Just behind the rear tail light). $87 tow $104 for part at Advance Auto. The spacing seems way to close on this one. New ones come with a 1/2 inch spacer.
Just had this happen at our dealership 2 weeks ago, wish i had seen this before lol. came from another shop that couldnt figure it out. The complicated things by cutting out a plug on the frame and not plugging in the plug that controls the fpdm.
hello, i have a 2008 450 with a 6.4l psd, i am having similar issues to what is going on in this video, but am unable to solve my problem with the tips form this vid. when i tried to start the truck one day, the cluster was pretty much all blank, and the only thing happening is the info center in the cluster tells me to check the trailer brake controller, abs, and other stuff, then the PATS theft light holds solid for a few seconds (about 3) and then flashes rapidly and the truck will not crank and of course not start. other stuff seems to be operable like the radio and windows/locks and ext/int lights. i hope that you have come across something like this for an 08 job 1 PSD since you are an all knowing ford guru, thanks!
Does the fuel pump module have to be grounded to work or will it work if it’s just dangling and plugged in a brand new fuel pump module if I connectA brand new fuel pump module and let it hang without being bolted to the frame or grounded in anyway will it work
You are the s*** bro I'm beyond impressed and it takes a lot you are exactly right and you're also the first UA-cam video I've ever seen that was actually spot on so hats off to you I appreciate the knowledge being shared I'm a auto and diesel tech and I ran into this before different vehicle different symptom different problem blown fuse but showed good on both sides just no explanation. So now I got it to crank everything's good but I don't have my fuel pump kicking on so it must be that module trying to hunt one up right now trucks been stranded in front of one of my bay doors. Thank you I thought I fried something
Old vid, but i have identical problem with my 99 expedition! something was killing the battery, short to ground I think. could hear a relay clicking under the hood, when connected. theft light, no fuel pump (no injectors is a given). Scanner would not read the computer. Is there a similar issue to this for my year with 5.4?
Hey makuloco
I'm having problems with a 2001 ford must 3.8. Same problem like this truck but without that noise from throttle body unit.
I wanted to know if this year Mustang has a fuel pump driver module.
Also where the fuel pump relay located at?
I did see a small module in the left rear quarter panel but didn't know it could possibly be FPCM. Still not 100% if this a module.
Would this happen on a 1998 Ford Explorer as well because I'm having the same exact symptoms and smell and everything
Your videos are so useful ..
I got a 2005 f150 with the 4.6l replaced the fuel pump driver module in the back and the plug isn't burnt or melted. But it still keeps blowing the ecm/pcm fuse. Any input on this?
Do you still recommend the doorman fuel module
Hi
I have a 2007 Ford F150 4.6L It starts but only stays running for a few seconds. It does this everyday but then after awhile it starts and runs. replaced, the fuel pump mod, fuel pressure sen, fuel pump sending unit, maf sensor, egr valve.
Had ford dealer ship change my oil an once i got it back my lock didnt work no more my radio wont turn off once my key is off an i am out of the truck emergency break light stayd on also an my seatbelt dinger keeps beapin also non stop.. Abs light is on also an it all happened after a oil change any idea on how to fix it.. I have unpluged the battery an its still the same no lock abs light an break light is on.. What in the world could of happened?? Relay control mondule or a fuse or what u all think on that problem.. ?
+FordTechMakuloco my Ford F-150 2008 it's sometimes turns off and then it idles once it put the gear in drive mode but it only starts acting up when ever I put it in drive mode now when ever it gets to my 3 rd shift the truck is very heavy to speed up I have to press the gas hard so speed can pick up. On my second shift its fine but i don't know what it might be
Hello, I have an 08 Ford Expedition EL and it just started stalling and sometimes it wouldn't crank at all with no power at all. I would come up to a light and it wouldn't idle like normal it would act like it wants to take off. Would this module be the cause of it if it even comes with one ?....please help. Thanks
2004 F-150 5.4 this actually happen to my truck 3 days ago, truck has power but when you try to crank it over to the run position i get nothing. Of course I change the starter and of course nothing changed.
thank you so much spot on my trouble good job
Thank u for that excellent video. I replaced a fuel pump on an 04 Expedition. Still no fuel pressure. Tuned out to b that little tiny fuel pump relay soldered into CJB. I tied to solder a new one in there. To many little joints. Ended up buying whole new box. Why can't they just put a replaceable relay like everyone else?? Once again, thank u! And I watch every video u come out with
we have a f150 XLR 2013. we were driving done the road, we felt a bump and the dash went all crazy. said to shift to park going 75 miles per hour. the heat got stuck on so we pulled over and tried to restart it. it didn't start and is giving us a system start fault... any fixes?
@Fordtechmakuloco I’m having this exact same issue right now and can’t fix it. The check engine light, battery, and anti theft light are flashing with the ignition set to ON as well as the imrc cycles non stop. Truck cranks/No start, or cranks/starts but stalls almost right away as the battery, cel, and anti theft lights are flashing. Replaced the fpdm and fuse 34, and lights are still flashing. Any help is greatly appreciated please
Great video's! I have a 2004 F150 that starts, runs and drive's perfectly from cold. shut it off hot and it won't start, flashing 15 on the theft warning light (key not programmed into pats). Let it cool down and it starts like a champ. No DTC's are set (that I can read with consumer reader). Any thoughts?
Checked fuel module in back and very little corrosion, tried new keys (pgm fine cold), new PCM relay, all fuses good. Serviced grounds around PCM/battery and fusebox.
I have same problem..what is the problem?
My 2004 f150 5.4 triton wont crank at all,noise coming frkm fuae box but dont know which to check and my gas meter isnt showin it has gas and im positibe it does,any suggestions
Thank you thank you thank you!!!!
Replaced the FPDM on sons 2004 F150 5.4l and got a P1237 code, so replaced the pigtail connector but still have the code even after clearing and rescanning. Truck seems to run ok. Not sure where to look next?
Have code p0191 and I replace fuel pump, fuel filter, fuel pressure sensor, and fuel driver modular and code still comes back. I checked all the wires and voltage and they are all fine. Truck sometime idle rough and you could see small amount of black smoke. Anybody help? Thank you
I replaced that piece on my 2004 Ford F-150 four wheel drive a 5.4 l and it there's another code p0451 the fuel tank pressure sensor I was wondering if you can help me to understand where this pressure sensor is and if it's the one that's in line or directly on the tank thank you I appreciate any information you can give me
I replace my 2004 ford f150 4.6l engine with a 2005 ford f150 4.6l engine and when i went to start the truck i won't crank or start but it cranks when i do a push button test on the brand new starter and had the battery tested and it is good checked all the fuses and relays i don't know what else to do
same issue, no clicking but fuse 34 is fine, no crank, no start. any info on why 34 is ok, any advice on what the next step can be? please and thank you
I have an 04 F 150 4.6L driving down the road and loose all instruments..The truck didn't shut off. Got pulled off road at a service station and it started to run rough, and had a loud clicking sound so I shut it off. Bad electrical smell at the rear of truck.tried to restart but was dead...Got a jump and it started right up, but wouldnt run but for about 30 seconds.. anti theft blinks normal with key off, but try to crank it and it goes crazy....i think the issue is the fuel pump module where the spare tire is just like you said on your video....my thing is why my inst. went out?