£60 Network Radio / Two-Way Radio - But Does It Work??

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  • @carsQhere
    @carsQhere 5 років тому +6

    Been considering a dedicated "zello handset" and this review reminds me why I haven't bought one yet. No volume control is just daft. Thanks for the video Lewis, great to get impartial views from someone who knows their stuff.

  • @jplacido9999
    @jplacido9999 3 роки тому +4

    The lack of volume control is not a glitch:
    Many guys will turn volume down to avoid radio chitchat noise. When someone calls them, they don't answer. That's the reason.
    Its for outside working guys.
    In the Office, you have to use a different model for confort.

  • @timothybrown7792
    @timothybrown7792 3 роки тому +5

    2021 UPDATE: 1) The android version is very important because some apps will soon stop supporting older versions if they havnt already. I wouldnt consider any device with firmware older than 6.01 otherwise you will be restricted to what apps are compatible, even if some of those may not be communication apps like Zello. 2) some apps wont support devices with less than 1GB of system ram therefore 1GB should be considered a minimum requirement. 3) aim to buy a network radio that is 4G compatible. Why? the Uk networks plan to switch off 3G networks in the near future, and they will shut them down before 2G GSM which may sound odd to most people! so why? 2G covers more locations than 3G including semi rural areas where other network technologies are not available, and is essential for dumbphones that only support 2G. this means if you buy a 2G/3G only network radio now, it will be practically useless when the providers turn off their 3G infrastructure. Vodafone have already set a date for the deactivation of their 3G service, although off hand I cant remember the date, but once they do the rest will follow. Its thought that Three will be the last network to keep 3G up and running. I only know this from past experience working in the mobile industry, so its handy knowledge to have where nework radios are concerned! this information is even more important today in 2021! 4) worryingly, even some upmarket network radios are running very old firmware today! so if you intend to splash out a lot of dosh its essential to check what version of android they are running! what applies with smartphones doesnt with network radios where firmware is concerned! meaning that, you should not automatically assume that a more expensive model is running newer software! because thats not always the case. its very unlikely you will ever get a firmware update on a network radio, making the preinstalled version of paramount importance.

  • @paaao
    @paaao 3 роки тому +8

    The right way to use network radios is on a massive WAN/LAN type scenario. Like, if I own a business, and I have complete WiFi coverage at my main office, and a warehouse location someplace else in the city, also blanketed with WiFi access points, both networks linked via the internet. Now I need to only buy IP radios, and everyone can talk, fully encrypted, from either location, or back/forth between the two.
    You can apply this same concept to ham radio. Say, the aredn network. Or even not the aredn network. How bout a neighborhood of hams all with 2.4 ghz wifi omni antennas up high on their roof, all homes linked together via the internet connection. Now you can walk around the farm, neighborhood, and talk without anyone being able to eavesdrop. There are lots of other great uses. Zello is the last reason on Earth to purchase an IP radio. Zello is a closed, private service. A good IP radio is designed for private LAN/WAN use, outside of what zello has to offer.

    • @RKingis
      @RKingis 10 місяців тому

      There are a couple WiFi intercom apps for Android.

    • @Lofievenings
      @Lofievenings 3 місяці тому

      You day dream a lot seems like.

    • @paaao
      @paaao 3 місяці тому

      @VarietyNight No, I work at large scale industrial plants that have 2 to 3 miles of multi level buildings completely covered by a LAN with wifi. No cell service, so IP radio gets from one end to the site while cell phones and simplex RF does not.

    • @Lofievenings
      @Lofievenings 3 місяці тому

      @@paaao And i am the queen of Finland.

    • @paaao
      @paaao 3 місяці тому

      @@Lofievenings You're the queen of the morons.

  • @dxscotland5901
    @dxscotland5901 5 років тому +2

    At that price that’s a good introduction to network radio Lewis! Tnx Gm4zji Chris

  • @sethjenna2561
    @sethjenna2561 4 роки тому +4

    It has a place so long as hams still prioritize having equipment that doesn't rely on internet.

  • @phonerefillcenter3
    @phonerefillcenter3 5 років тому

    thanks for putting the link in the description I found the website and I'm very impressed God bless you and something very special to me and I really appreciate it and this is the first video of this series that I have found and actually has the link in the description to the website that I'm actually looking for God bless thanks so much

  • @London1064
    @London1064 5 років тому

    Another good video. Well done 👍

  • @MatthewCEBamber
    @MatthewCEBamber 5 років тому +1

    Nice one Lewis! 💪😜

  • @GateKommand
    @GateKommand 5 років тому

    At least this is a more sensible price....thanks again for the video Lewis!

  • @NETWORK23UK
    @NETWORK23UK Рік тому +1

    I agree they do have their place! I've used Zello , Echolink, Teamspeak since 2013 and Zello will thrash a decent smartphones battery, so what's new out there Ringway Manchester? Love the videos! A new one on the new rigs on Ebay would be great! Thumbs up if you agree.

  • @bigwill4423
    @bigwill4423 5 років тому +15

    Just heard from "Hairy Paul" on network radio that you have to adjust the volume by going into the MUSIC app and adjusting the volume from there. What a faff...…..but it works apparently!

  • @zoidster
    @zoidster 5 років тому +2

    I've ordered one of these based on your review, so thanks for that! Pretty confident I can work something out on the volume issue, £58 is closer to the amount I feel comfortable paying for Android 4 than some of the offerings I've seen :)

    • @RingwayManchester
      @RingwayManchester  5 років тому +1

      Good stuff Matt let me know what you think!

    • @zoidster
      @zoidster 5 років тому +2

      @@RingwayManchester absolutely will do, seller is quoting 10 day delivery though. Just a thought, did you try swiping down from the top of the screen to bring down the notification panel? Sometimes there will be a volume icon or slider on there.... If not then I am sure something like Nova launcher would enable one.

    • @EnglishLaw
      @EnglishLaw 5 років тому +1

      @@zoidster I was thinking the volume would be software controlled being android.

    • @zoidster
      @zoidster 5 років тому +1

      @@EnglishLaw that's the great thing about these things being based on android, I'd guess a lot manufacturer design flaws (at least software ones) can be solved by the user with no coding knowledge whatsoever! Had it been a standalone device with its own propriety software then we'd be stuck with no volume whatsoever. Don't get me wrong, the ommision of hardware volume keys is a very strange one, and hopefully we'll be able to key map our way out of it as that would be a better solution.

  • @CB-RADIO-UK
    @CB-RADIO-UK 5 років тому +1

    Good to see the prices are coming down. Weird antenna. fine video lewis

  • @wisteela
    @wisteela 4 роки тому

    It's using a custom launcher and icon set.
    I love the Rabbit logo case. Oddly I was thinking about those phones recently.

  • @andrewmacrides
    @andrewmacrides 5 років тому +7

    I love the torch - Maybe it because I live in Cheddar Caves :) M0FXB

    • @garychap8384
      @garychap8384 3 роки тому +1

      Doesn't it get damp?
      Went in wookie hole once as a kid... and a few others. If you had have asked me back then, I'd have happily made one a home ; ) These days I'm afraid my joints wouldn't take it ; )

  • @raysult
    @raysult 5 років тому +2

    Great video ! Really very helpful. I've been looking for a budget price / inexpensive Android device to use Zello on. I've been using my LG mobile phone for Zello, but I wanted a separate device with a PTT button.
    After watching this video twice, I went ahead and ordered one of these today $68.00 (U.S) and free shipping. Thanks for the info ! 👍

    • @sebastianjul5048
      @sebastianjul5048 5 років тому

      I can not find it on ebay, do you have a link to it?

    • @raysult
      @raysult 5 років тому

      @@sebastianjul5048 It is on Banggood.com That is where I ordered mine. It's called the A17.
      m.banggood.com/A17-3G-Network-WIFI-3800mAh-IP68-Waterproof-Intercom-Zello-PTT-Android-GPS-Bluetooth-Feature-Phone-p-1344507.html?rmmds=search

  • @rogan177
    @rogan177 5 років тому

    This is quite a nice radio, I heard only some airports and checkpoints use this radio

  • @ChrisMarsh321
    @ChrisMarsh321 5 років тому

    Shame about the volume control.
    Great video very informative.
    Thanks

  • @2e0bgb
    @2e0bgb Рік тому

    Very good presentation.....

  • @MeloRaja
    @MeloRaja 4 роки тому +2

    Just watched this. I have the A-18. My newest network radio. The one I received does have the UHF radio function. I didn't recognize it right away as the icon is labeled "PTT". Works well like my W-5, as far as repeater usage. The one thing I had to work around was that the PTT kept activating Zello which interrupted my use of the PTT with Echolink and the Peanut app. What I did to get around that was to remove the PTT from use with Zello and used the Button Mapper App to program the volume down button (which is right above the actual PTT, on a "long hold" for PTT and "short hold" for "volume down" function, then added that button as the PTT for Zello, freeing up the actual PTT for use with Echolink and the Peanut App. When you are in a specific channel in Zello, the volume down now works as a PTT, but when you are monitoring all channels, it goes back to functioning as a volume down button. Works like a charm now. I like the A-18 for a cheaply priced Network Radio.

    • @trackerom6518
      @trackerom6518 3 роки тому

      Where did you buy model with "PTT" app?

  • @OnTheMicwithMike
    @OnTheMicwithMike 5 років тому +1

    What a strange device! So in theory without UHF, there's no need for an antenna on it?! I was looking for a decent UHF phone/radio but seeing this i'll definitely think twice. Thanks for the video Lewis, ATB. Mike.

  • @offbeatwarble
    @offbeatwarble 5 років тому

    Hi Lewis just to let you know a quick tip I heard you CAN adjust the volume, you have to go in to the music app and adjust the master volume using the hard toggle keys on the keypad , HTH cheers

  • @SiMahDan
    @SiMahDan 5 років тому

    With a portable Wi-Fi cellular modem one could bypass "content" Pro Fighters but still stuck with the cellular providers. A big Improvement

  • @wallywo7392
    @wallywo7392 4 роки тому +2

    Hi thanks for the introduction to these, just wondering where I can I get one for £60, i can see any links. Cheers

  • @andrewmacrides
    @andrewmacrides 5 років тому +2

    Hi All- If you go to the Home screen and select the music app then you can use the scroll button up and down to adjust the volume but it doesnt work in Zello - still testing options , M0FXB Andreas.

  • @GaryGSF
    @GaryGSF 5 років тому

    Freudian slip I think at 13:04 - It looks nice and shi..... Great video though. I might just make a purchase.

  • @samaiupata5507
    @samaiupata5507 5 років тому

    Thank you ,😃😃😃😃

  • @ChrisColeman1962
    @ChrisColeman1962 5 років тому

    Hi Lewis , just found you last night on Martins video. G0KQN here, never heard of Zello, going to search for it now, a lot of my friends are on repeaters via the net, which i think just defeats the point, and some even run their own repeaters ! I am old school, analogue for me, but will try zello !

    • @RingwayManchester
      @RingwayManchester  5 років тому

      Hey Chris many thanks! Let me know how you get on!

    • @RingwayManchester
      @RingwayManchester  5 років тому

      By the way, are you still active on the air these days?

    • @ChrisColeman1962
      @ChrisColeman1962 5 років тому

      @@RingwayManchester no mate, sometimes get tempted to buy a 10M multimode, and get a big aerial for the car !

  • @MiddleAgeFella
    @MiddleAgeFella 5 років тому

    Hi I know this is a very old video, but did you ever sort out the volume problem?
    I see the A18 has volume keys but not sold in the UK.

  • @Mohammed_Twit_Tube
    @Mohammed_Twit_Tube 5 років тому

    Thank Lewis for the wonderful subject,
    If the phone supports (for example) Arabic language,
    My question:
    Can I use physical keyboard buttons to write text messages in Arabic language?

  • @JakeTheN3rd
    @JakeTheN3rd 5 років тому

    sorry this is a late comment but i have a question
    What sim card do you put in your network radios like in this video. I dont want to pay extra for texts or minutes. Do you have some sort of prepaid or like a walmart one?

  • @kaidenshay840
    @kaidenshay840 5 років тому +1

    hey ray can you dm me the link where you bought it from please cause im looking for one to try as a beginer

  • @g1fsh
    @g1fsh 5 років тому +1

    Doesnt look to bad mate. I would prefer to pay a bit extra and get the 320 or rt3. Good review tho as always. Great video.

  • @todop
    @todop 5 років тому

    I like these stuff because they return the external antenna. Otherwise i think any phone will work.
    As partial hiker i would love a phone with external antenna option.

  • @Mottersmotters
    @Mottersmotters 5 років тому +4

    Hello WHAT IS THIS...... Never heard of a network radio, new world. Stumbled across this video from one of you other videos regarding listening to Manchester airport.

    • @Iknowsomeofthesewords
      @Iknowsomeofthesewords 5 років тому

      Motters Motters it’s a phone specifically designed to communicate via wireless phone internet through a push to talk service. Like Zello.

  • @j.cheeverloophole9029
    @j.cheeverloophole9029 5 років тому

    The web site i found states 400-470mhz 2 way radio intercom (option)?? Between two sets? Software or firmware option? Who knows?

  • @zvjezdaniput6121
    @zvjezdaniput6121 5 років тому

    Hey dude that is an awesome video. Now i wasnt watching completely this video i was in a little rush but does this phone works on UHF/VHF frequencies? You now..like an usual two way radio that has a UHF and VHF band.....thanks,...bye...

  • @ANYTHING-AND-EVERYTHING.
    @ANYTHING-AND-EVERYTHING. 5 років тому

    Hi Lewis, It is my wife Sarah nr8888 that gave you the audio check in this video at 19.55 is there any chance next time you are doing a video you could include her set of channels that is called "Radio Network CH 01" There are 5 channels in total, 01 to 05, it is growing nicely with over 700 subscriber's, but she would appreciate her channels being included in one or more of your future videos. Thank you Stephen.

  • @TheSpeirs999
    @TheSpeirs999 5 років тому

    Has anyone found a headset that works with the A17, the one supplied is allowing me to hear, but when you click the talk on it, it doesn't send

  • @dannyhui8397
    @dannyhui8397 5 років тому +3

    Oh wow. I ran into a similar device, almost identical down to the telescopic antenna and misspelt power on screen. A friend let me borrow it for testing due to problems he had with it. This one did have a UHF radio, accessible via a built in app.
    From experience, it wasn't great. You could set the frequency on it and CTCSS tones, but the mic gain was rubbish on it. I could not hear myself on another HT in the same room, on the same frequency with the volume turned up on it and there Android PTT phone didn't seem to have settings to adjust the mic gain. Also it had a tendency to start transmitting immediately when you opened the system UHF app and it would stick on Tx until you tapped the onscreen PTT button, so potential to cause interference there without noticing.
    Trying to enter frequencies was problematic due to that tiny screen. I resorted to typing in using the physical number pad. And to top it all off, the squelch settings were broken. You set it to "1" and it is too high and won't receive even strong signals. Set it to zero and you end up opening the squelch and hearing static. Particularly dreadful piece of equipment that I would steer clear of personally. Just my two pence.
    Love your work Lewis and hope to see more videos from you.
    73

    • @RingwayManchester
      @RingwayManchester  5 років тому +1

      Thanks Danny!

    • @LeeQuessenberry
      @LeeQuessenberry 5 років тому

      What was the app on it called? I bought one but I don't know where to do the UHF/VHF part.

    • @dannyhui8397
      @dannyhui8397 5 років тому

      I'm sorry I can't remember. I don't have the device any more and it wasn't mine to begin with. A friend gave me his for testing.

  • @TNFSDK
    @TNFSDK 3 роки тому

    Which cheap radio would you recommend that supports teamspeak as well as a wired microphone like a "proper" walkie talkie

  • @bigwill4423
    @bigwill4423 5 років тому +1

    Just a thought on the A17 thingey volume problem. It looks a bit like my cheapo £10 Vodafone payg mobile and you adjust the volume on it during a call by pressing the right/left buttons on the up down/right left/ select button. Might be worth a try to see if that adjusts the volume during a call? I'm struggling to see the point of these "network radios". They all look like "bricks" from the 1970's. Why not just use your mobile phone which is smaller, lighter and you can adapt the volume button on your mobile to act as a ptt button with Zello…...or am I just thick and missing the point of having a separate device? Great video as always mate...…..keep em coming. It's so refreshing to have someone like yourself who "tells it like it is".

    • @RingwayManchester
      @RingwayManchester  5 років тому +2

      Cheers Will! I'll check that out. There's only one reason I have them and that's because I love gadgets haha. 73 for now

  • @atahservices2840
    @atahservices2840 5 років тому

    Sonims phones don't use 4.4, they run more recent versions of android and are updatable from the handset. They have made phones that were licensed by land rover.

  • @Ivan.Atanasov.
    @Ivan.Atanasov. 5 років тому +1

    I've got Sonim XP3 phone (still on duty as a works phone) and they look very similar

  • @leesanggi1004able
    @leesanggi1004able 5 років тому

    마음에 든다

  • @simonj48
    @simonj48 5 років тому +7

    The more I look at these radio er .. Zello mobiles, the more I can't help but think someone needs to start a kickstarter or something and actually make a decent one with all the required features and hardware without it turning out to be a pile of pants.
    Surely by this point we should be able to get something that doesn't look like it's a mobile phone from 20 years ago, and from the looks of it, runs like it and has about as many features of it too.

    • @darkshadow987
      @darkshadow987 5 років тому +1

      You are so right. It's 2018... Phones with Android 4.4 running 3g? Why?

    • @mauryginsberg7720
      @mauryginsberg7720 5 років тому

      Simon Johnny
      Zello needs to be dumped in favor of a proper open source alternative to Zello. Zello is the problem.

    • @timothyfidler2088
      @timothyfidler2088 5 років тому +1

      The reason it looks so chunky is that some of the REAL ones do have a VHF or UHF mobile built into them ( Ham band) . So if you have two you have an excellent tcvr for work on a construction site , 4WD (Aust) or such like. obviously a REAL one (like some of the others he has on the table ) with say 1 W output power needs a chunky battery.

    • @Jah_Rastafari_ORIG
      @Jah_Rastafari_ORIG 5 років тому

      @Simon Johnny OK, I'll bite; never heard the phrase, "pile of pants"; some obscure cockney rhyming slang that's eluded me all these years...? (Love the cadence though; has potential...)

  • @TheZacDJ
    @TheZacDJ 4 роки тому

    Really interesting video, thanks for posting. Question further down this comment...
    We use Zello at home to stay in touch with the family -- great for 'who wants a tea' etc, and for staying in touch out and about. Brilliant app.
    We also use it at work for staying in touch around the building, and have just started using it for outside broadcasts -- base can talk off air to the field production team rather than making a phone call.
    I've been looking for a cheap dedicated PTT phone, at the moment its just the app on a smart phone.
    Question: if your PTT phone is screen locked (zello running in background, default group selected) and you push the PTT, does it automatically go into tx? Or do u have to unlock the screen and bring up zello before the PTT button will work (ie, as you would when running on an ordinary smart phone, where the PTT is an on screen button). Does that query make sense?
    Many Thanks in advance for any replies.

    • @RingwayManchester
      @RingwayManchester  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks Zac!
      I've seen either/or in these radios. Some key up while locked, other's dont. Mine personally doesn't however a friend of mine has one and his keys up when locked.
      Hope that helps.
      Lewis

  • @jorgezuni2818
    @jorgezuni2818 4 роки тому

    Just like Motorola with boost about 10 years ago I believe (ptt push to talk) they still work ptt about a 1mile range . You gotta go in to the settings and activate manually !

  • @Ellarian_Liara
    @Ellarian_Liara 5 років тому

    What is the antenna for if it doesn't have an internal radio?

  • @atahservices2840
    @atahservices2840 5 років тому

    Do these require the antenna on for 3g/4g?

  • @2e0bgb
    @2e0bgb Рік тому +1

    2G and 3G are being switched off.

  • @dalegaki9w6dle4
    @dalegaki9w6dle4 4 роки тому

    Haii.. Are the first radio review can use zello?

  • @markaz2kk
    @markaz2kk 5 років тому +1

    make you Happer? righto!

  • @user-bs6ih6gi9o
    @user-bs6ih6gi9o 5 років тому

    Great Video! How to buy? Lives in Sweden. Price?

  • @micah1309
    @micah1309 3 роки тому

    can you change volume using the up n down on the ring just above keypad

  • @UNITEFORFREDOM777
    @UNITEFORFREDOM777 3 роки тому +1

    WHEN ARE 5G NET RADIOS COMMING OUT

  • @SteveFranklinPalmer
    @SteveFranklinPalmer 4 роки тому

    It's a mobile phone you buy to accept one more app.

  • @jackstanden93
    @jackstanden93 2 роки тому

    Couldn't see a link for these do they still exist?

  • @steuk6510
    @steuk6510 4 роки тому

    That at 5:58 I have that radio it's not a bad little zello radio even after a year aerial broke it all still works its now discontinued it all still works for price I payed its a great little phone I got mine for 49 pounds on a cyber deal

  • @chrisb012
    @chrisb012 5 років тому

    I'm just getting into Amateur radio after taking art in this year's Jamboree on the air. Do you need a licence to use zello, or would it be a good way to get some experience on air?

    • @RingwayManchester
      @RingwayManchester  5 років тому

      Hey Christopher, You don't need a license to use Zello, and it's all VOIP so there's no radio involved.
      You might find this video useful:
      ua-cam.com/video/0orLSqP46hg/v-deo.html

    • @chrisb012
      @chrisb012 5 років тому

      Thanks,. I’ll have a look at the video. Can’t wait to get my foundation licence. 73 from me!

    • @carlossantini3605
      @carlossantini3605 5 років тому

      Zello is not HamRadio. you don't need a license for most channels

  • @SteveCholerton
    @SteveCholerton 2 роки тому

    Are you still into Network Radios Lewis? Is there a decent one in 2021 thats better than my Inrico T320 (small low res screen, slow, clunky), BUT incredibly useful to hit the repeaters with Echolink from a hospital bed where they may not appreciate a few watts of VHF / UHF around their equipment :-). An intertesting show would be based on Access Points for use with these and similar radios, watching UA-cam and doing Network Radio soon kills your data :-)

  • @vermontsmostobesetubaplaye1988
    @vermontsmostobesetubaplaye1988 5 років тому +1

    What is a "network radio". As opposed to a 2-way radio?

  • @kielhunter707
    @kielhunter707 3 роки тому

    Broke the antena can you buy a replacement?

  • @tyflos098
    @tyflos098 5 років тому

    Can these work on a mesh network?

  • @stevesmith7530
    @stevesmith7530 5 років тому

    I have found these on ebayuk and aliexpress. Both list it as UHF optional. As for volume.... could one not use an earpiece even a bluetooth one if necessary, with its own volume control?

    • @robredridge1703
      @robredridge1703 5 років тому

      Whats it come under on Ebay? Does it ship from UK? Volume control not relevant for my needs.

    • @stevesmith7530
      @stevesmith7530 5 років тому

      @@robredridge1703 search phrases are elsewhere in the post as the channel owner does not want to directly link

  • @aldrinsangma5363
    @aldrinsangma5363 5 років тому

    Hi can you do a detailed review and range test(without repeater) on Retevis RT1

  • @alexanderNorseCode
    @alexanderNorseCode 4 роки тому

    apart from it being a mobile phone... what is it good for ?

  • @alexderpyracc4053
    @alexderpyracc4053 4 роки тому

    I also found an a18 uhf phone radio should I buy one?

  • @nandoenk
    @nandoenk 5 років тому

    Zello in HT body?? Nice idea but miss concept bout mobile radio i guess

  • @needi51
    @needi51 5 років тому +1

    I still don't understand what is a network radio? Do you have to pay for the cellular charges? (since there is a SIM inside). Is it a walkie talkie or a mobile phone with PTT feature? IF its a walkie talkie how long is the range?

    • @vermontsmostobesetubaplaye1988
      @vermontsmostobesetubaplaye1988 5 років тому +1

      My same questions, too.

    • @RobertSmith-qj2te
      @RobertSmith-qj2te 5 років тому

      I'm an IT person, not a radio hobbyist, just came across this video as part of my research into trying to find the right network communications device for a specific industrial application. So I believe I can answer your questions; generally speaking, a "network radio" is a walkie-talkie type device that functions using a data network, as opposed to a direct radio signal from one device to another. Although this device can apparently be equipped with a sim card for use on a mobile network, it can also function without any cellular service, just by connecting it to an existing wifi network. Of course, it will need to be kept in range of that wifi connection in order to work, but when it's got a good wifi signal, it uses either the local network or the internet to communicate with other devices. So yes, in that regard it IS a walkie-talkie, and it's range is virtually unlimited, as long as it's got a wifi connection with internet access. I'm thinking that even without internet service, it would still function within the local area network, i.e. other units on the same wifi network.
      That's my understanding; if I've said anything that's inaccurate here, please someone/anyone feel free to jump in and correct me.

    • @needi51
      @needi51 5 років тому +1

      @@RobertSmith-qj2te Thank you Robert. I completey understand it now. Have started using my iPhone with Zello Application & fully enjoying it!! :)

  • @AnonymousUser1710
    @AnonymousUser1710 5 років тому +1

    Got one of this and you have to get in the music app to turn the volume up and down... Huge design mistake IMO.
    And they say it's also UHF but it's really not cause there isn't any app or anything that could make this device talk to other UHF radios so that's pretty much a lie.
    Other than those 2 cons and the "make you happer" spelling mistake, this is a quite good cellphone on everything else and for the price it's not really a bad deal if you're going to use it with Zello.
    I don't regret buying it at all cause if you look at other cellphones/radios of the same type, this Anysecu A17 is cheaper and have better and more features than the other network radios with screen so... I'd bet that if it had the volume buttons this would be more expensive than the others.
    For it's price, I'd still give it a thumbs up 👍
    Edit: Forgot to mention another con:
    - It comes with an earpiece but the earpiece doesn't fully work with Zello... You can listen and transmit with it but it's PTT button doesn't work so you still have to press the radio's PTT button to talk through the earpiece wich doesn't make much sense. Not sure if it was my earpiece came faulty or it's because it's PTT button isn't compatible with Zello.

    • @vermontsmostobesetubaplaye1988
      @vermontsmostobesetubaplaye1988 5 років тому

      iAm , got a link to buy one? Thanks.

    • @AnonymousUser1710
      @AnonymousUser1710 5 років тому +2

      @@vermontsmostobesetubaplaye1988 I bought mine on Aliexpress

    • @vermontsmostobesetubaplaye1988
      @vermontsmostobesetubaplaye1988 5 років тому

      @@AnonymousUser1710 thanks.

    • @jplacido9999
      @jplacido9999 3 роки тому

      In fact, it works on UHF, they are not lying😁.
      The problem is that people forgets that UHF os not a radio band designator per se, but 300 to 3000 MHz general indication😁.
      People assumes UHF means 400 to 470 MHz or more walkie-talkie simplex/semi-duplex capability 😄😄😄.
      The lack of volume control is not a glitch:
      Many guys will turn volume down to avoid radio chitchat noise. When someone calls them, they don't answer. That's the reason.
      Its for outside working guys.
      In the Office, you have to use a different model for confort.

  • @samglaim4274
    @samglaim4274 5 років тому

    Sort of mixed feelings about this device.... it may well be one to avoid?..... some may be 'happer' with it? ;-) .... thanks for the video 73

  • @darkshadow987
    @darkshadow987 5 років тому +4

    I would have to give this one a miss. It looks like it's decent enough, but the technology and OS are TERRIBLE!
    I currently use a Galaxy S5, which is 4 years old at this point, and it is 4G LTE and running Android Pie (9.0 for iPhone lovers) as my Zello device... There is no reason in this day and age to have a 3g device running a version of Android that was carved on stone.
    Not to mention, here in the US at least, 3G is on death row with Verizon and T-mobile planning on shutting their 3G network down within a year.
    That's why the RT4 looks so good to me. It's an LTE network phone, which still has plenty of support. LTE-A won't catch on, and we're at least a year away from 5G. By the time the LTE network goes obsolete, the RT4 device will have long since lived out it's usefulness.
    But for some reason China seems to want to keep churning out these devices that are ALREADY obsolete before they come off the line.

    • @bobandbobandbob6285
      @bobandbobandbob6285 4 роки тому

      Are you sure it's running android pie? You must be using a ROM as it certainly isn't supported on Pie by Samsung!

  • @carlossantini3605
    @carlossantini3605 4 роки тому

    Have you tried the A18, it has volume control on the side, + and -.

    • @jacknboxes
      @jacknboxes 4 роки тому

      I've just seen your comment re: the A18. That also is advertised as having a UHF Radio built in.
      Has it, as I'm doubtful?
      Cheers, Andy.

  • @LocksLondon
    @LocksLondon 5 років тому

    For me the volume issue is a bonus and exactly what I have been looking for.

  • @STMONDEO1
    @STMONDEO1 5 років тому

    The Antenna is not connected in this device

  • @morphshag
    @morphshag 4 роки тому

    These have just become available in Australia for $102. I don’t yet have a network radio, worth it?? Or keep saving? I’m just starting to explore Zello.

    • @RingwayManchester
      @RingwayManchester  4 роки тому +1

      It's worth it but there are better ones around from Anysecu and Uniwa for a similar price that perform much better

  • @cariza5
    @cariza5 4 роки тому

    Do you need a licence to own one.

  • @timothyfidler2088
    @timothyfidler2088 5 років тому +1

    Price has dropped even more . As of early October I ID'd one of these at 55 USD on ebay which is about 42 quid. Perhaps the word about no volume control has got around. It would be possible for someone like a radio ham to dig out the LED and use the space to install a small ALPS type volume control say 50R to put in series with the loudspeaker.. A BS170, SM if required could pull this pot out of cct when the PTT is pressed as long as 2.4 V at microamps is available. all a question of what you value time at... Either the company will go broke or come out with Mark II but at this price if the volume control issue is fixed they should stay in business.

    • @timothyfidler2088
      @timothyfidler2088 5 років тому

      What I am referring to here with the BS170 Mosfet is that if the loudspeaker is the microphone then if you dampen the output you will also kill off the audio in - unless you take the potentiometer (or even fixed resistor) out of circuit when transmit is on...If the two circuits are different , the whole thing becomes a lot simpler. Whether it is running an old Android or a new one is hardly of importance to most people who simply want cheap communications. As per my comment above some ebay sellers seem to have dropped the price even more - esp as they are advertised as having features they do not in fact have.

  • @mickgatz214
    @mickgatz214 5 років тому

    +Ringway Manchester : I have a question. should the shtf scenario, would these radios become useless in the event should the 'network' go down???

    • @RingwayManchester
      @RingwayManchester  5 років тому +1

      Yeah they would Mick

    • @mickgatz214
      @mickgatz214 5 років тому +1

      @@RingwayManchester thought so. ;)
      Thanks for reply.....
      Even the Baofengs (electronic), are good, but sticking to older radios is a wise option i think!
      I use the Dual Bander responsibly, and yeah, i'm addicted to the different models. :D hehehee
      Cheers!
      Mick
      L.E (later entry)...GREAT REVIEW!!!!

  • @mountainholic7208
    @mountainholic7208 4 роки тому

    UHF radio ready?

  • @chrisgillam224
    @chrisgillam224 5 років тому

    The volume is on the touch screen. You can turn it up or down no problem.

  • @citizenbeats2023
    @citizenbeats2023 6 місяців тому

    is it possible to review a sepura sbp8010

  • @zoidster
    @zoidster 5 років тому

    I hear a lot of folks talk about the lack of volume control being a deal breaker, surely volume could be mapped to the Dpad with a third party app?

    • @RingwayManchester
      @RingwayManchester  5 років тому +1

      I think it could Matt

    • @raysult
      @raysult 5 років тому +2

      There is a solution for the volume problem. I have spoke to 2 people that are both using an app that allows the volume to be adjusted from within a pull down tray by swiping down from the top of the screen. And yes it definitely works with Zello open and running !

    • @zoidster
      @zoidster 5 років тому +1

      Knew it wouldn't be the end of the world :) I am convinced a solution to the lack of UHF is only down to the missing app too.

  • @Coffe_3_sweetners
    @Coffe_3_sweetners 5 років тому +1

    Despite the issues I could have overlooked them all for the fact that Zello will work reasonable well on it but without the volume buttons It wouldn't be any good. such a shame thay overlooked such a simple feature.

  • @hawkmoe2789
    @hawkmoe2789 5 років тому

    Looks like the volume controls are rite under the PTT orange button.

  • @MrPINKFL0YD
    @MrPINKFL0YD 5 років тому

    Can you get a network radio app for smartphone use?

  • @jasonhowe1697
    @jasonhowe1697 5 років тому +1

    even if it did have uhf and vhf capacity you would be needing a ham license to operate it..

    • @jamesslick4790
      @jamesslick4790 5 років тому

      To transmit, Yes, But (at least in the US) you can receive all you want. Many people use cheap Chinese VHF/UHF radios as low cost scanners.

  • @lonly4596
    @lonly4596 5 років тому +1

    nice can it comunicate with 7s plus?

    • @lonly4596
      @lonly4596 4 роки тому +1

      @Freebanders Netherlands thnx but actuly imean radio comunication

  • @pauljohnson4590
    @pauljohnson4590 5 років тому

    I have one of these and thought it was just me not finding the volume! I downloaded a slider app - which works BUT it doesn't;t when zello is working, you need to come out of it, adjust the volume and go back in - what a pain.

    • @RingwayManchester
      @RingwayManchester  5 років тому

      Cheers mate!

    • @raysult
      @raysult 5 років тому

      Paul,. There as an app that works while in Zello . I have spoke to people that are using it on that exact device.

    • @pauljohnson4590
      @pauljohnson4590 5 років тому

      any idea what it is, as I have found two now that only work when zello is not active. It's annoying to have to come out of zello, change the volume then go back in

  • @chrisoutdoors82
    @chrisoutdoors82 3 роки тому

    Did you ever figure out how to adjust volume bud

  • @petchharrison
    @petchharrison 5 років тому

    being as deaf as a phart more sound will be fine for me ..jeff.. m0prf

  • @SolitarySwede
    @SolitarySwede 5 років тому

    To me it sounds like a car company claiming to sell a car with Adaptive Cruise Control and Bose soundsystem, but in fact doesn't even have a steeringwheel...It's not even a car, it's a bike.
    probably made in china. Shit.

  • @adamgrundy9709
    @adamgrundy9709 5 років тому

    Very interesting Lewis. Thanks for the video. I'd be interested if you find a way to turn the volume up and down. Adam M6XYT

    • @RingwayManchester
      @RingwayManchester  5 років тому

      Cheers mate!

    • @aa-dm2fg
      @aa-dm2fg 5 років тому

      @@RingwayManchester If for curiosity you have a btooth media button that would clip on steering wheel, see if vol will work. I can imagine at least mobile this would be useable on the road this way. Crazy no vol buttons but try btooth one. Or download an onscreen vol button. Also install bbc iplayer, and turn it up to 11.. 73s

  • @charlieC102
    @charlieC102 5 років тому

    Might sound stupid but if you use one of these will the sim card need to be topped up ?

    • @RingwayManchester
      @RingwayManchester  5 років тому

      Yes :)

    • @charlieC102
      @charlieC102 5 років тому

      Okay, thanks.
      Also, could you do a video on how to programme DMR on the Radioddity gd-77 (if you haven't already)

    • @RingwayManchester
      @RingwayManchester  5 років тому +1

      If you look at Radiosification's videos you'll see all you need to know about programming DMR @@charlieC102

    • @charlieC102
      @charlieC102 5 років тому

      @@RingwayManchester Okay will do. Thank you.

  • @martinbrasher126
    @martinbrasher126 5 років тому

    You can also find the wwarg network radio on discord at the following server address discord.gg/zwF8gfR and cross connected to our zello gateway network radio wwarg

  • @pedropires7902
    @pedropires7902 5 років тому +1

    make and model???

  • @anandawater5607
    @anandawater5607 4 роки тому

    singapore adderess pls

  • @TingILi
    @TingILi 5 років тому

    I think it should be a kind of NETWORK phone, NOT "RADIO".