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Senhaix N60 - The Best Mobile Network Radio?
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I have been a licensed amateur radio operator for over 30 years. When I started the only choice was HF or UHF VHF repeaters. That was it. Technology has evolved. I don't care what anyone says, this is a radio. It does use a radio frequency, just not the ham bands. I can also see a lot of governmental agencies transitioning over to network radios with apps similar to Zello. The reason is: 1, its private. No one can listen in with a scanner, most cities have good cell coverage. 2. Can be encrypted with a VPN.
I have used Zello on my cell phone. And every time I get a phone call I'm not able to use Zello. I like having a dedicated device for my communications applications like Zello, TeamSpeak, Echo link.
I also see it as a good way for a lot of people to get into radio communications. Not everybody is interested in getting their ham radio license because you have to take a test. That is why it is hard to get new ham radio operators. People don't want to take tests. Like the gmrs license all you do is pay a fee and you get a license for 10 years with no test. Network radios don't require a license or a test. So anybody can use them. That can be a good thing.
Technology has improved our hobby over the last 20 years. My main operation is via a Voip sip phone, and I can dial into some allstar nodes and Repeaters. Fantastic 73 de 2E1CEQ
After four years of more or less intense use I can say that I am really happy to have bought this device. I often find myself driving many miles and I need to keep in touch with my co-workers and family and the train of messages that these contacts can generate risks being a dangerous distraction. This device is a practical and elegant solution, which with crystal clear audio allows you to keep in touch with who you need. It's a phone? maybe. Is it a radio? Almost. What matters is the enormous versatility that such an object offers. Obviously after 4 years you feel the old age of the operating system that is no longer current. One thing missing is the ability to easily change groups without having to interact with the touch screen. A rotary switch would be much more appropriate.
Then there are other aspects which, however, are more related to the individual applications used, so this is not the best place to talk about it. I hope to see in the future other devices similar to this one, perhaps more performing and with a larger screen where with a single device you can have a driving aid with your favorite navigator and a versatile and safe communication platform to use.
Just found about ntwork radios yesterday, loving all this new stuff
Start with a inreco t320 all the other hand radios are not so good ..
@@drewby4563 That's the model I'm going to be getting. They are really good.
Best and easiest to understand UA-camr that shows radio's. Good visuals. Good video quality. Always enjoy your reviews and tests etc. Keep up the good work. Watching from Australia. Not many people take the time to do great videos. Usually no effort. I like seeing close up around radio's including seeing menus. Features.
..just having a spot of coffee, while rummaging through my bits and bobs box over here in the colonies...LOL j/k - man you make some very clear and precise videos man.....GG
I viewed this video last year .. I’ve just purchased one of these Network radios N60 3G using my Nectar points. I wanted a GPS rather than using my iPhone during driving and arriving almost at my destination with a flat battery getting lost at the last mile lol We use Zello in the TV studio so I can listen in to the Talkback on my way home so I can leave without worrying . Thanks for the review very helpful and informative 😎
Unfortunately network radios doesn't cure the prevalent Radio amateurs disease...the inability to press the PTT switch and talk...once again it's the same minority talking and the majority only wanting to listen. .where did the ability to hold a conversation disappear to? 101 stations listening on channel 00 last night and only 2 stations talking...a case of audience participation desperately needed!!
I agree to a degree here @MrRadiorobot. People do just listen in. On the flip side some of the admins and mods can be limp biscuits and are rude to new users. I have tried to be cleared to talk several times on those network radio channels mentioned in these videos and they keep me on the side lines. I even had one channel say they wouldn't let me in because on my profile picture I had a shemagh around my face lol. I changed it and still no go.
Wow... A lovely device... I'm a fan of Zello. Thank you for this.
Cheers Andrew!
I think the idea is to develop collective conversations rather than view everything in the light of armageddon planning.
You’re so right
That is a nice looking radio, great size screen, and the QYT style mic is great. I have one of those mics, they feel great in the hand.
A lot of people (at least in the US) are giving network radios a hard time, I can't get enough. Obviously no good for emergency comms, but great for normal use, especially in a well covered area. They are starting to make hybrid radios now with Zello/UHF (though there is less support for VHF which I primarily use), so you won't have to carry 2 radios and a phone around anymore, and you basically have a nationwide repeater. With a Zello bridge you can even link your conventional 2 ways into the network.
CHeers!
Good night this type of equipment and unlocked for other countries I'm from Brazil thank you
Non stop talk blocked me for being a volunteer fireman that's messed up ..........great video man keep it up and I'll be spending some money on one of these rigs .......kc3lxm here
Great video as always Lewis.
If I were a communications company operating radio networks commercially I would be getting rather worried about now.
A huge advantage with these devices is the coverage within city buildings and structures.
The network radios work perfectly fine inside underground rail systems and shopping centres where 2G/3G/4G LTE and soon 5G networks are installed. (And free WiFi!!)
Spoke with a bicycle courier whose employer has dropped using traditional two ways in favour of network radios, purely because they can keep in touch with staff who may be inside buildings or areas of the CBD where 4G is adequately covered by micro/pico cells. The old two way would become useless in many areas of the city shadowed by high rise.
As far as amateur use goes, well the same coverage principle applies, which is a huge advantage.
But....no technical challenge, learning or skills required. No experimentation with antennas (what would the point be?) or gaining knowledge from making improvements to your setup to be had.
And if most amateurs do migrate to network radios....it will be spectrum auction bonanza time at OFCOM/ACMA/FCC....etc...."What is the opening bid for 10Mhz worth of 70cm?"
They now have mobiles and HTs starting to sell with dual analog UHF and Network zello. Those finally are the best of both worlds! I haven't seen them being sold in the US or Amazon yet though only Ali China sellers. Anyone have one yet???
"network radio"!?.... Never heard of it, but it looks very interesting indeed 👍🏼👍🏼
Great review, professional level quality and editing 😉
Cheers :) You have now! haha
Great review. I've just bought the 4G version direct from China and Anysecu. Great piece of kit. Works a dream. Dumb question though...…..is the PTT mike on the 4g version backlit like on the 3G version because mine doesn't seem to light up......is it supposed to???????
You can Also use a Google Chrome Computers that is one way i use ZELLO now since Google is making the computers able to download apps to the chrome Books and Chrome Computers
Been drooling over the N60 on their alibaba page. Really considering getting one. Cheers for the review mate!
You won't regret it mate!
Although in a serious emergency (like grid outages) this would be pretty useless, as a day-to-day tool it would be kind of nice for the car. You could mount it in your car and have a GPS, an audio entertainment source, and a 2-way comms system. If they added in an analog/digital transceiver feature this thing would be amazing
Yeah you're right! Cheers
Not played with one myself but I have a android head unit in the car and paired it with an RTL dongle and use SDR on it ..so I'm assuming you could do the same with the network radio if it has a USB or otg
everything has its use (horses for courses) but all this technology scares me and i get confused with it (never used it) it doesn't feel like radio to me! radio to me is a "radio" bit of power and an antenna!! send some code or have a natter simples! i am probably showing my age now with that view, but it is my view and i own it!! but great review, and to a dinosaur this channel is worth its weight in gold to me for this kind of information, even if i am moaning about it!!
Dave hawkins I'm of the same frame of mind with all this Internet computer linked kit, just give me a ssb, fm rig and an antenna rf point to point suits me fine so your not the only one who considers this Internet skullduggery cheating. For me its qrp 4 watts work the world on ssb. 73
I'm exactly the same, analogue FM through and through, but I do enjoy this new technology and for me it's all about social and communcation.
Dave hawkins G7LEL?
@@RingwayManchester I might have missed it but have you reviewed any of the models that also include 2m/70cm?
Very impressive and nice. I wouldn't use one of those really unsafe plug adapters though. I'd use a proper one. I've had two radios come with them, and they went straight in the bin.
I see they've used a the mic from another model of radio as it has VFO on it.
73s M7TUD
How distance Talking range?
Thanks for the review. I just ordered one.
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So from what I gather, certain cretinous HAMs have the self appointed authority to determine what other HAMs may use. it's not a ham radio and the majority of users aren't expecting it to be. My employer issues handheld network radios and something like this would be great for drivers compared to trying to feel around in the dark finding a HT.
Any video that makes me a bit smarter is a good video. Thank you for posting this.
just purchased the 4g version. Came with no user manual and no wall plug. Just the stripped wire. I can only assume that it is 12V. If you use it on wifi is the sim card necessary? How big an sd card will it take?
The old fogies will like the bucket over this one Jeff
Very informative video as Usual.Sorry if I break this channel rules, but If somebody need to get these radios with GPS platform I can supply this with very econimical rates.
Does anyone know if it’s capable with the iPhone zello app or a radio that does?
Hello,
What would be better, what would you buy for a taxi company, Irico TM 7, oder Senhaix N 60? For radio volume and signal in the mountains? Thanks!
Couldn’t you achieve the same thing with a smart phone and a ptt mic attachment?
Please remember it is ileagal to use this radio whilst driving as it TX above 800Mhz thus breaking the law. No one wants points.
Q. Why buy a radio when your mobile phone will do exactly the same job?
Nice video keep up the good work just getting started on zello and allstar .Finding it not working via the pc as web tranciever is using java has an issue with its coding so gonna try a differant browser.Hopefully catch up for a QSO
73's
DE M0JFE
Hey John,
I'm fully aware of the legalities of using these in cars, which is the reason I don't. The reason for using these is the dedicated PTT, I like the fact that it's fully seperate from my phone and who doesn't love gadgets? Cheers for commenting and catch you on there soon! rmcomms is the username.
Best 73 for now
Lewis
Can you download echo link for Ham Radio onto this and use it on this radio?
Hi Lewis, once again great review and a nice looking radio. I bought the RT3 after your review of it. This radio looks nice and i think it priced well it might be a contender to buy.
Nice one mate!
this model work with echolink app and put button ?
Yes it will
Time for a review on the Telo M5 and Telo M6 please.
It seems many companies build the same model of radios and then slaps their own brand name on it.
Anysecu for example.
Could you tell the difference?
It’s the exact same device except anysecu sell them for senhaix
Nice review matey and kinda weird seeing me on your contacts list in zello lol.
When's your 7s+ revue going up as that really looks like one I'd like to try 👍
Haha cheers mate! It's coming in the next week or so
Thanks for the vlog, very interesting. I take it this an extension to radio hamming. I also suppose you have to have a ham licence? I am completely new to all this but find it interesting.
Hi mate, it's technically nothing to do with amateur radio, but thousands of amateurs are using it as a sideline to radio. You don't need any license at all.
Awesome video as always Lewis. just out of interest dose it support OTG and could it be possible to run a RTL SDR as it’s possible on most other android devices
how is de modelation from this device mircofon
Hey Jack, what's OTG?
It allows you to use most things USB on you android device from keyboard to hdd and even charge a friends phone. iv used one to run a RTLSDR off an android tablet it plugs In To the charger port
I was going to reply to a few people here, however, I thought I'd just make a post myself.
As a professional radio technician, these units have been sold to a local trucking company to allow for wide area communications, tracking and direct communications with truck drivers.
The majority of highways have GSM coverage, this allows control to contact drivers without calling them, they'll hear the message out loud. Having the screen visible and mounted as it does makes it exempt from mobile phone laws so drivers can use apps on it.
You will see more of these mobile GSM radios coming onto the market soon.
GSM/Wifi portable radios are great for hotels and resorts as the wifi which is prevalent allows for completely uninterrupted communications
little of topic but does the tm-7 come with GPS antenna
It does Jacob
its a mobile phone with a fistmic. Save your money and buy a PTT headset for your phone.
I know exactly what it is, I prefer dedicated devices
Zello is a lot of money $7 per person/radio
thats expensive
we can use teamspeak ? ive used that for over 10 years on PC
Zraupp10 zello is a free app
I was going to install one of these in my car
So call me thick but can it be used as a satnav as well ? Whilst it's sitting on my dash may as well make use of the screen.
Try as I might, I have yet to find online what the physical dimensions are for this radio. Would love to know before I buy.
Quick question - does watts app live location work on these as well
Ok.. it looks like a '2-way/ham' unit... but all the menus + sim card slot say its a great big mobile phone?. I would like to know more about this unit as, at the moment, if the 'grid' goes down, you wouldnt be able to use it... Nice presentation, great review, looking forward to more. Cheers for sharing.
Interesting. thank you for the review. What radio and apps would you recommend for echolink and allstarlink access? I am aware of the the android echolink app which is very nice. I am unaware of any android app to connect to Allstarlink/asterisk and QSO via PTT. I really think have a traditional radio microphone with PTT to use is wonderfull. I eagerly llook forward to your response.
Great review, thanks. Quick question - does it need a dedicated SIM or can you simply tether it to your ‘phone via Bluetooth to use the SIM in your ‘phone?
You can tether yes
@@RingwayManchester great thanks.
Any chance you could do a review on a N61 PoC Mobile Radio when its available? It look pretty much the same as the N60.
KD8ZXT 73's
Stay tuned ;)
If you have the Zello app open and then turn of the radio and turn it back on will the app still be open
Not unless you press the PTT
go into settings and tell it not to.
Thaks
Just dipping my toes in to zello enjoyed your video keep it up might pop on to say hello from up here in Scotland 108 division
Cheers Stuart
I can't find this radio anywhere! And I want one! This is such a tease :)
if you contact Senhaix through facebook they'll give you some options.
brilliant video thanks for putting it up 73s
The anysecu is OK down size is the ptt does not work on echolink as I found out when I purchase one
Great video Lewis, thanks.
Cheers!
Given that this is Android based, I wonder if you could install ATAK?
Ive downloaded the app.
Can I use Zello w/o SIM card ?
Androidn4.x Can it be rooted? flashed with custom rom? Maybe PTT cell phone usage :)
It's a TETRA radio, not a cell phone, not a ham radio. Same radio the police and ems use in Europe. This radio is encrypted, connects to the nearest cell tower, if none are nearby, it connects to the nearest cell phone/radio and there on it travels between cellphones/radio towers until it makes it to it's destination. In order to make it functional it needs to have a sim card and a phone number in order to make it two way so no one can listen to it's conversation. Both radios need to install an encryption key in order to decode the message.
Not tetra at all, tetra uses its own frequencies on a digital platform.
This is a glorified android phone which has an internet connection for zello VoIP
It's absolutely NOTHING like tetra at all!
Do they operate on zello ? Right..I have it on my phone is that the same ?
I watched about 12 minutes, and am trying to understand how it works. On a sim card? That means i need to install my sim card from smartphone? Is it also a cellphone, this N60?
Exactly
No, you can make ur cell phone behave as a wifi accespoint, this device will see it and ready for use, also internet sharing over bluetooth will work.
This is a great alternative for "real" radio. normally limited in reach, unusable in builded areas. 15 to 20 km. Now worldwide! Arguments when system breaks down the is no comm possible are not valid. Walky talkies are also useless nowadays, no one listens. Great for proffesional use also. No dialing and everyone in the group hears and can talk back.
Quite,the tech isn't the point,the communication option is the point. One of the benefits of ham radio is the openness of the conversation. It creates diverse possibilities,rather than the isolated capabilities of mobile phone one to one use even in conference calls.
Does it work with conventional radios to? I mean can I talk with someone who use standard radio?
If someone was to buy 2 of these and put them on wifi, in different parts of the city could you talk back and forth ?
Yes they would :)
Question.... Lets say i got a bunch of friends we all running fm radios in a open wide field. can this work like a central?
try the ap peanut for hams, its free for ham radio operators only,got fed up of zello to many cock ups ..jeff..
PTT over Cellular as been around in the commercial/business world since 2007... It's Radio Amateurs who adopted it..
I guess lack of knowledge, understanding and it's application kind of crept in.
Manufactures are now more than happy to supply to this demand..
Dave H that brings back memories of Nextel ptt phones of the early 2000’s
beep beep hello? (NEXTEL)
I've got 13 of those sets :) i355's
Yes... There is nothing much new these days,,
just re-invented, re-imagined,, re-hashed,,, re-packaged,,, But made smaller with added "eye candy" :) :) :)
Thanks a lot for your nice review. But please help me I can not figure out where to buy this nice device.. I am living in Hannover, Germany. I have not found it on Amazon nor ebay. Thanks a lot for all your work. Greetings from Hannover.
If you contact Senhaix on their website they'll help you
Thanks a lot
Lewis looks good radio very nice how you your family hope all well take care mark from Loughborough Leicestershire ct 2674
CHeers Mark! All good here, same to you!
Very interesting, cheers for sharing. I take it mobile use requires a SIM card and mobile contract? If so, is there an approximate figure for how much data Zello uses?
Cheers, very very little. I don't even manage to use £5 per month, I end up with loads left over.
Echolink receive volume comes blasting out no matter what the volume control is at on the N60. Is there any way to fix? Also, any way to turn off the lighted microphone? It's always on.
ah unless you have a radio license I don't recommend using them as you have 2 options uhf and vhf
there is likely versions of this 1 meant for uhf or the other being vhf, loosely based off dmr technology..
These aren't VHF or UHF at all Jason, they're a phone, not a radio. They're nothing like DMR either.
i wouldn't use iit unless you are on wifi at home as data services aren't cheap for broadbanding applications and depending on zello and team speak and other comms chat programs on are on a mobile platform will dictate how this is used as some programs are built for use on the xg platform only and do not migrate well into wireless home networking platform from my experience with gplay and other services designed to run over 3g/4g/lte/lte-a networks
Do you need license for this?
Do you need a ham radio license to use this?
It's an android mobile phone inside ham body case. Needs 2G/3G/4G/WiFi to work.
Hello
Does this device work with peanut. ??
I have the N61 fantastic and it's up and working 💪
Lewis, can you tell me the voltage & amperage of your supplied mains PSU on your N60 please? On your recommendation, I bought the sister radio the Anysecu 3G/W2 but it came without a PSU. I am assuming its around 12v and low amperage, maybe 1 ot 2 amps at most?
Hi Rob, It's definitely 12v, I'm not 100% on the amps but it's likely 1-2 like you said. I'm not nearby to check at the moment.
Thanks Lewis, I just had an idea. I watched your video again and paused it as you picked up and showed the PSU to the camera & took a screenshot of it & blew it up until I could read the label. Its a bit blurred at that magnification but you are right, it says 12 volt 1 amp..
This would be amazing for commercial application like if u have a fleet of vehicles and workers
It would :)
i have now got a n60 senhaix, good but no 4g sux in this day an age,but it does wifi ..jeff..
Is there such a thing as a "simplex app" that can be installed on one of these so they can talk directly to each other without the use of the network?
There isn't but Icom do a radio that allows this!
What would be good is to have some sort of console that you could plug your smart phone into and make it like this
It would!
I am seriously in love with that radio but the thing is I can't get it here in the states I would need help probably send some money to you and whatever the price of it is and in quid and you can mail that to me is that is something really nice to have in my shack
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Adding another $20 a month for a sim card does not sound like the Ham Radio freedom that I am used to! The Millenials can have it!
You're right, but it's not ham radio, it's a seperate hobby.
And when the SHTF us hams will be there to handle the emergency
@@LEDniac I have been a Ham Operator for 25 years & I have used Amateur radio Twice for an Emergency when local Law Enforcement or other Emergency agencies could not communicate. Most Ham Operators NEVER do & when & if the SHTF ever happens Hams will be looking for cover just like the rest of the world. That is REALITY & I was a State Law Enforcement Officer here in Florida for 30 years.
Can't find a place to buy and look for the price of one.Any links to buying etc please Lewis
Up to now you can contact Senhaix through their facebook page for sales and inquiries mate
Is this released yet?
Yes it is
I take it this is the 3G version, they ran okay with early versions of zello but they are to underpowered for smooth operation of the latest versions of zello, 512mb of ram and a poor processer make this very laggy, £200 for a device with 512mb of ram and A very poor and cheap processor is not a good buy, the good news is that the later 4g version has 1gb of ram and much better processor so works with zello as it should.
I noticed you said it has a charging socket on the back so has it got an internal battery and could you use the radio handheld IE: walk about or is it just for homebase or car only.
73's alan
Hey Alan sorry this was a mistake on my part, there is no battery or option for one inside, got my words mixed up. 73 for now
Ok What is PTT explain please, surely it does not mean Push To Talk
It is push to talk
@@RingwayManchester lol ;)
@@RingwayManchester
This was developed around 1995.
Voip system with a virtual button , nothing like cutting edge kit ;) it should be tap to talk , mainly because you can't push a mobile device screen, VOIP has it use's but not on a mobile phone, because it can only be used when the net work is up and running, and at that point it's easy'er just the phone, you know it makes sense ;)
I dont suppose its available over here at this moment Lewis ? UK.
Appears to be the same radio with a different name in eBay for £248
i really like the look of this radio mate. U will have to give me a shout on it so i can hear how it sounds.
I will do bud!
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Belum sampai ke Indonesia........
what is this radio hardwear you have can you kindly link it to me please
Not sure I get it, but if your cell network goes down, like some of the others have replied, yet you are still close to a open wireless network, you can still connect to Zello, correct?
I can use this with my 'Secured Wireless Network' at home, without a cell data plan, correct?
Also, are you able to use this as a CB radio?....I don't think this has the capability, or does it?
Otherwise great review!....Thumbs up from London, Canada!
Brilliant, my friend!
Hey Rick you're exactly right on all of the above, it won't work as a CB radio. 73
@@RingwayManchester Cheers!
Can you listen to police fire and ems with this radio
Does this have Wifi or hard wire network connectivity, or is it GSM connectivity only?
well watching the video he showed in the menu WIFI capability to rec wifi
can you use this as a phone and make and receive calls on this...