Venti is hella underrated, he is actually the one that done the most work among the archons, especially at the early days of Monstadt; from golden apple archipelago, unreconciled star event or even Dainslef collected mischaleny about venti, and hell even it was being mentionef several times, monstadt was once mountanous frozen wasteland not lush green as we know now, it is barbados aka venti who use his power to cut down the mountains and throwing them off to the sea, in what now becomes haar island or golden apple archipelago, and throwing the largest mountain in Tevyat, pylos peak, to the sea, to what is now, musk reef, aka the location of spyral abbys, not only that, vento also drive off storm from monstadt, so monstadt will be the land without storm this is the thing that have been said by that girl with church of favonius uniform at the area around stormbearers mountain, venti also taught people of monstadt how to harness wind and taught them how to build windmill all of this is the reason why monstadt After all of this he goes off to sleep,but from the manga, he definitely didn't have control over his sleep, and even ask himself how long has he been sleeping, and wake up to monstadt already under the yoke of Lawrence clan, this is my speculation, but he looks like overspend his archonic power especially since he is a god that didn't get worship at thr beginning, vannesa's rebellioj would be impossible to succeed without venti's direct intervention, and he once again handed monstadt to it's righful owner, the people Fast forward during catacalysm , venti and dvalin are the one that defended monstadt from the attack of the largest dragon that ever roam monstadt, durin, you can see the remnants in dragonspine mountain, in which why the mountain being named like that And idk if you realize it, monstadt archin quest are the only archon quest where the archons actually greatly help in handle the crisis,without venti we stand no chance against corrupted Dvalin, hell without venti we wouldn't even survive
@@briantarigan7685 Every archon did their best for their people. If we consider the archon war. The only reason liyue ever existed was because of zhongli. And raiden help inazuma went through that whole corruption events during khaen's fall, too.
@@briantarigan7685 Zhongli who has been a hands-on protector and ruler of Liyue for 3,000 plus years until his retirement, invented Mora from his flesh and blood that built Liyue and its economy to be the economic powerhouse that it is right now and the richest nation in Teyvat, personally did a house to house pest extermination campaign for years because he's so concerned that his people were terrorized by these pesky slimes and despite being their god still would disguise himself as a commoner so that he could personally observe the situation of his people from the ground and then later on decided to retire because he deemed the erosion that he is experiencing would endanger Liyue yet some rando had the audacity to compare Zhongli's deeds to some twink who has done the least for his nation in terms of nation-building LMAOOOOOO
I was anticipate the release of Sumera but then when you mentioned Caste system. Hoh god... I can foresee Genshin future storyline is getting darker than those annoying puzzles.
My theory: Sumeru is divided into two regions in conflict with one another, primarily in terms of ideology Can you imagine if it's a mirror of 7th century politics where desert nomads take over the sedentary forest neighbours? Since ideology and beliefs play a part, it might mirror the Islamic expansion where a group of monotheists antagonize a society of pagan "fools and ignoramuses" for fighting against the Truth. Sumeru can be our most compelling story arc yet.
I really want Snezhnaya to be some sort of system where the Tsaritsa gives some goal to her lieutenants (Harbingers) and from that point they do all the work, while the tsaritsa is worshiped as their divine representation
This is actually a real thing in Russia. Putin gave orders and goals to the Oligarchs like boosting the economy, increasing oil sales, military spending, etc etc. I do wonder if corruption culture plague also run Snezhnaya. Oh and don't forget the KGB/FSB ehem... I mean Fatui sending agents ehem... "diplomats" to influence all of Tevyat's nations politically.
@@darnit1944 I'd say more of china than russia. china is literally like that. the ccp gives the orders and the local and provencial govs are told to get this stuff done.
Remember kids, just because it seems to look nice in the game doesn't mean it would work in real life, Capitalist Oligarchy and Military Dictatorship is very very terrible in real life
@@KlemenTime yeah, the only thing that make this nations looks nice in the game is because the characters we met have a rare and pretty unrealistic morality for their position and power, i mean, a group of oligarchs with unchallenged authority actually care for the wellbeing of their people? In real life oligarchs only care about their business empire and see the nations only as resources to exploit for their wellbeing
Of course. I feel like genshin does try to express this with a few citizens coming from disadvantaged lives and then expressing that, but doesn’t depict the insane amount of humans that are greedy, terrible, evil people, especially within the high government and hold power. Often times we end up defeating or deposing those ppl in the game, but it doesn’t happen like that in real life of course.
I am glad someone noticed the lack of Daimyo rulers in Inazuma. I knew right away that Hoyoverse based Inazuma on Edo Period Japan once Zhongli mentioned Inazuma is undergoing the Sakoku Decree. Perhaps they removed the Daimyo system since the whole nation’s activities are limited to Narukami Island only and that the daimyo system could actually get confusing based on the hierarchical statuses of families. One funny “coincidence” is how traveler arrived at Inazuma through the use of Alcor going thefe under the guise of business, which seems similar with how Black Ships arrived at the Edo Japan back in 1800s.
I was kinda hoping they add a emperor too that was like the mandorin from iron man. He looks menacing but he’s just a funny guy who we befriend while ei deals with everything lol
@@dieptrieu6564 clearly you don’t know about Japanese hierarchy. Yes Raiden is the empress and the shogun but in real life those were two different people
@@iamnumber4ization I'm not talking about real life. I'm talking about the game. Raiden already fulfill the role of both empress and shogun. No reason to add another emperor
@@dieptrieu6564 do you not see what the lady wrote you idiot? She wrote about daimyos a title that was not in the gane. I wrote about the emperors who was also not in the game. It would have been nice for those these roles to be in the game. Imbecile
@@KlemenTime or, another theory here, shumatsuban predates kamisato clan. or, I'm just drunk and yashiro commission is really just a cultural arm of the shogunate, and the shumatsuban is loyal only to kamisato and not the shogunate
@@advanceringnewholder that exactly what happen. Yashiro responsible for cultural part like what is stated. Shumatsuban are exclusively Kamisato clan retainer and doesn't belongs to the Shogunate. Ayato character trailer and how Miko (because she is trusted associate with Yashiro with same goal) show the Shumatsuban doesn't belongs to Shogunate
There is another possible theme in Snezhnaya; in the world quest, it was said that Arlecchino (one of the Fatui Harbingers) opened an orphanage for Orphans, which then were trained and then sent on infiltration mission (maybe as spies since they were trained to become the Fatui) so there may be a ‘Russian Spy’ theme added to it.
Yes! I also personally think the Tsaritsa might just be the only archon who is trying to fight Celestia, and the fatui harbingers are kind of like her human weapons to achieve that goal. She also wants to be aware of each nation's opinions on it, so thats why there's all these fatui doing politics. She wants to have them by her side when the time arrives, but tbf I think Dainsleif is right and she doesn't really love her people, but she's definitely "pretending" she does, so that they'll work better. It's SOO weird to me how Dain says that her people doesn't love her, but 90% of snezhnayan npcs and fatui absolutely adore her... I think she's having something similar to North Korea lol, where only some people aproved by her can get out of the nation, while it's common folk die of poverty and things of the sort because they all overwork for the military.
@@hey7492 I don't think the actual fatui fighter like her. They are in constant pain due to the experiments as said by their voiceline. The only one praising her are the normal grunts agents and of course the harbinger
for sumeru i think that its really interesting to see the schoolars tittles are reverse in contrast to rl monarchy bc it may hit us that (as well as dainslef did it in the past) the enemie of the wisdom is the wisdom itself its meaning maybe is about how sumeru values more misinformation and ignorance rather than actual knowledge (as a way to prevent the schoolars to know the truth about teyvat) so it would make sence that the talented ppl (higher ranks in monarchy in real life) have the lowest academic rank in the game
I find Watatsumi's political status interesting because it's clear that Kokomi inherited her position whether she wanted it or not, but she's also shown to be struggling with the duties that she has as a result. She doesn't seem to want the position, but puts up with it because she owes it to her people. She makes public appearances and speeches because she knows that's what I leader needs to do to help their nation, but all she really wants to do is crawl into her secret cave and read The Art of War in peace and quiet. (The traveler literally reads her a commentary on that very book as a bedtime story.) I'd be very surprised if there weren't real Absolute Monarchies that had this problem of a ruler that didn't feel qualified for the position, but didn't have anyone to take over for them.
I mean, we know cases when rulers openly did not take responsibility after their role, so it would not be surprising that some rulers just swallowed the bitter pill.
Even inside her own people the casualty are scary to look at. Some of Fatui in the chasm though that it was better to stay there and die from hunger then to disobey the order... That just sad
Like Venti and Zhongli said, the Tsaritsa completely changed after the fall of Khaenri’ah. Perhaps she completely lost the love in her heart despite being still hailed as the Archon of Love.
Omg. Thank you for discussing this kind of content. I was actually interested in the world building of Genshin Impact especially how their world functions. The university where I graduated actually did an online forum and discussion on the geography and political climate of Genshin. Sad thing is that I wasn't able to join. But yeah, I really like these type of content. Thank you
Wow I'm happy to hear that these types of topics interest a lot of Genshin players. We appreciate the feedback and look forward to delving into more of these kinds of analyses 😊
This is the type of genshin content that I love. How we can use real-life to explain genshin nations. You gained a new subscriber today! Interesting that you pointed out the Teutonic Knights. I've known the Teutonic States for a quite some time however never related it to Mondstadt due to the former's militaristic and crusading nature and the latter's emphasis on freedom. However, I disagree that Mondstadt is anything close to a monarchy. Parliamentary Republics however, are much closer. Most monarchy implies that power is inherited. Only in a select few case do elected monarchy take place. However that is only in name, such as the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth with a "elected king" that essentially serves as prime minister for life. Mondstadt on the other hand is not a monarchy in practice or in name.
Actually, i must appreciate your work, and in my opinion you are the best genshin youtuber. I wonder how much effort you need to put to find those facts about game and how they are related. Dont stop workin bro, because youre doing great job and i love to watch all of your videos
Snezhnaya seems more based on Soviet Russia - cult of personality around the supreme leader; sacrificing in the present to reach the future goal of utopia (super communist); the backhanded dealings reminiscent of Russian Soviet foreign policy; the massive militarized feel that has tinges of industrialization (which yes, came later to Russia than the rest of the world irl but Genshin likes to flip things). Slightly unrelated: I think the Tsaritsa might be collecting the gnoses to take on celestia since the cataclysm probably broke her like it broke the 3 archons we’ve met
Nah i think it was base on both of them since the cult personality even happen during tsarist era eg peter the great name the city with his name, authoritarianism in snezhnaya also have smiliarity with both tsarist and soviet era russia (wich is probably devloped even during muscovite principality era in response of lack of peasant and lack of devlopment in northen russ like moscow, bloozero, tver and others not to mention weak rule result in anarchy like time of trouble after death of boris gudunov) the so called ultimate goal ideology also present in tsarist russia like how they need liberating constantinople, became sole leader of slavic people and so on , and regarding foreign policy just like snezhnaya they also agressive but i think soviet type in foriegn policy is more strong since snezhnaya prefer use spy and fatui to conduct its mission instead openly declare war And regarding industrial devlopment while soviet hace late but quick devlopment of russia, tsarist russia also make devlopment to to catch up with wester europe (albeit not very much in industry and more smaller compare to soviet)
@@bintangyudha4777 This is why I headcanon the February, October, and August Revolutions(the last one's technically a putsch, but whatever) in Snezhnaya.
@@zerefsunlimitedshipworks do know except if snezhnaya have anti tsaritsa (or archon before her) movement wich mirorred 19-20 century oposition to tsar from liberal, norodnik(populist), manshevik, bolshevik, anarchist, non russian nationalist than we dont know for sure not to mention hoyoverse probably didnt go for such detail and have more than one refrence well look at inazuma while it base on edo period japan it not very smiliar specially regarding how daimyo rule only have some vague idea eg like how three most powerfull family hiragi, kujou and kamisato have its estate and duty while lesser nobility like kaedehara have less influence this probably in refrence of even older japanese period wich i think early middle age japan when tachibana, fujiwara, taira and minamoto family dominating the politic
The Cataclysm is what defined the future and fate of Teyvat, so much so that even their Archons were heavily affected by the tragedy since Celestia called upon them not as Gods of their nations, but likely as weapons of mass destruction. Interestingly, Khanri'ah(?) seemed to be a force to be reckoned with as well considering there were even Archons who died in that event. I wonder how dark Genshin's storyline will become in the future and how it'll impact (pun intended) on our characters' own stories, especially the twins. This is all speculation for now but I truly believe that the twins already have prior connections to Teyvat before they arrived, as if something had pulled them into Teyvat and their arrival wasn't entirely accidental. That, along with the sibling's connection to Khanri'ah itself since they seemed to be the most devastated of its destruction (aside from the cryo archon apparently). Perhaps they helped them evolve their technology and alchemy? Perhaps they were even among Khanri'ah's rulers? I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
I dont think late aristocracy period mondstadt is absolute monarch sure it was authoritarian but not absolute since lawrence clans rule monstadt with other nobility and their position more like first among equal and not to mention in venti story quest stated no one wear crown in monstadt after decarabian demise Basically the only absolute monarch in monstadt is decarabian 2600 years ago and he didnt rule entire monstadt only western part of it and late aristocracy period monstadt more like noble republic (for example sture regency in late medieval sweden, renaissance period italian city like florence or bologna)
I mean can we really consider andrius's part of mondstadt as a nation? There're no people to survive in such cold bllizard, lol. For all intent and purpose it's mostly a wasteland there. So you could say that decarabian rule the western russia and anrius rule siberia if that made sense
@@adiaphoros6842 I don't think they do, not on the level of humans. Regardless, we are talking about the human's civilization who currently live in mondstadt. Not the wolves's tribe that long gone. Hence i make that siberian example
5 class described in sumeru isn’t class of india , instead it’s class of “hindu” religion . 5th class (untouchable) were oppressed pretty badly . woman had to pay taxes if they cover their breast ( even in public) , if they enter any other classes house or temple it becomes unholy etc . this class system has been gone but still remain little bit of it .
Just for clarification, varna system was not typical caste system and was decided by work not birth. Secondly, Dalit wasn't even part of Varna system and was added in Medieval times(though I agree that they faced discrimination)
@@farhan.1832 actually no There used to be promotions as someone could rank up to be a brahmin if they were learned. But the brahmins later stopped this practice as they wanted their power to be absolute and no one should touch them.
Also you mentioning this as a class for 'hindu' only is not correct as the other popular religion in India islam also has a caste system in India, it's still being practiced in rural areas.
Also the tax that you mentioned (breast tax) was actually imposed in previous the state of Kerla till 1859 It's not all India you shouldn't put specific taxes of certain areas in general arguments. You could use so many different better examples for the oppressions on the untouchables
I have been so long waiting for any video talking about this topic in Genshin Impact. Could you please also talk about Enkanomiya? I mean it’s political status because I think it’s not a part of Inazuma but I’m not really sure. Thanks body.
interesting analogy, im quite fascinated by how u elaborate those kind of theory and facts to all of the nations even though the four nations has not realesed by hoyoverse yet
Nice work! Absolutely enjoyed watching this analysis. I hope this gets updated once we get to Snezhnaya or Khaenria’h . Now that we’re in Fontaine, it’s just going to be a few years now when the remaining nations are released.
Apologies, but I really adore your voice ^^ 🙈 As Soothing, calm and still dynamic it may be, your pronounciation of some cultural terms is also really good :3 It helps focusing on the great research and information you also provide for everyone, thank you :)
I really like Watatsumi. De jure, they are not a country but de facto, they are a country that even stronger than Mondstadt in some aspect. They also have some limited diplomatic relations with 6 other nations in Teyvat.
For a constitutional monarchy to exist, you need a royal family (the aforementioned monarch), so Mondstat wouldn't qualify. I've lived in both Australia and Malaysia, which both have constitutional monarchies. In both places, the Queen/Sultan is the Head of State (in Australia's case, Queen Elizabeth), but they don't have a day to day role in Government. In Australia, a Governor-General is elected to be the Queen's rep and has a few set duties, such as signing off on bills, performing ceremonial duties, or approving the appointments of the Parliament. (I'm not sure if the Malaysian Sultanate also does reps given that they're still in the country.) The Head of the Government - the actual people in charge of running the country is the Prime Minister, based on election. There is a bicarmeral government - the Senate and the House of Representatives, not unlike the US. (The US is a republic, since the President is the leader and there's no monarch involved.) That doesn't seem to be the case for how Mondstat runs, but Fontaine could have a very similar system, or go the full Republic route.
Oh I understand your point. So Mondstadt's political structure is really far from a Constitutional Monarchy and is closer to being an Ordensstaat instead 🤔
Love this analysis. I find Genshin Impact's worldbuilding, especially the political system, interesting. We only have a few hits about the other regions and I can't wait to discover them soon
@@TheProdigalProphecies Yes the Chasm gave us a solid plot sorta like Naruto and the Tailed beasts in regards to Duvallin, Andreas and Osial with the abyss trying to control them so they can make a Super Bio weapon….
7:18 that would be an aristocracy. Where the power in in the hands of a small group of nobility. Also a constitutional monarchy isn't really that fitting for mondstadt, since the monarch and the constitutional organized government should be equal in power.
From my understanding the type of government that Snezhnaya would have is probably going to be something similar to Inazuma with a Military kind of dictatorship, I remember there was a video where it points out how Snezhnaya's government has control over the entire nation purely through its military and that it has things like spying on its own citizens kinda like how the Soviet Union got with their KGB but still we won't truly know what Snezhnaya's government works or the other nation's government works until we actually see them in game or in the manga but this video does serve a good insight of what may it be
I think an interesting idea for Natlan is a sort of tribal area where small areas are ruled by warlords and the constant fighting breaks out to prove out who is the strongest.
He basically dont give 5 cent of fxxk what was going on. Lol, Apparently Celastria doesnt not have annual peformance review. Other wise, Im very sure he wont fare well under any measure.
It's kinda weird because Monstadt is the land of freedom, yet still not democratic. I'm also interested in Fontaine's government as the land of justice.
Wasn't the Shogun closest to the Tenryou comssion and therefore the Kujou clan? I mean, she's a military leader after all, it would make sense for the closest to her to be the military. Besides, the Kujou estate is literally besides Tenshukaku.
Yes you do have a fair point but according to one of the NPCs in Tenshokaku (Naoe Hisamasa - the guard near the entrance), he says that the Yashiro Commission appears to be closest to the Shogun so naturally they are closest to the people of Inazuma 🤔 I can't really say for sure if what he says is true as Genshin's lore has many different perspectives and interepretations
Whenever speculating about Natlan I think it's important to consider afro-latin american influences tbh. The little girl we see on the roadmap trailer is called Iansan, and that's the name of an entity in religions like Umbanda, Candomblé, Santeria and the Yorubá religion. These are all practiced in Africa and were brought to Latin America later on.
I see. I admit I haven't done too much research on Natlan's possible cultural reference. However, I'll be sure to consider these on my future videos about Natlan 😉
Man I cant imagine Zhongli and Guizhong without Liyue. Imagine how corrupt the Liyue and the Qixing is if Zhongli didnt guide them (without making a contract to Ganyu)
I don't get why people don't support this valid canon content so they can actually judge whether Genshin's lore is good. And not those false, not cannon theory that other channels do. Then they would comment "oemge Genshin lore is so good and interesting". Like dude those videos you watch aren't canon. This channel right here is the canon lore master of Genshin yet you don't even care about his content. Lmao
yeah for real. i know the other channel has good content, but most of them just their headcanon is made me kinda feel unfair when this channel put many research and references to made their content. i just hope this channel get more hype from genshin community
im not going to lie, but this court thing in fontaine reminds me of greek mythology i dunno, but they have a bunch of troupes of women in there like theres the muses, and then theres also that vestal virgins and this isnt a group but theres the oracle of delphi too
Fontaine is speculate to be base in the "new world" in our time line. (aka North America) I will expect it will have a political system somewhat resemble (with elements from) the USA and Canada.
How archons rule their nation Anemo archon : I’m gonna be a musician, you guys can look after yourself. Geo archon : sets up a fake act of his death setting a nationwide uproar. Electro archon : Makes a robot and dumps the responsibilities on it . Dendro archon : nobody pays attention to me. 🤣🤣
Idk if this is popular opinion or not, but the size of these supposed "nations" in game world is quite....small.... It's almost the size of villages. There's no way they can have population of more than 2000, especially Inazuma
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Raiden: Gives all the responsibility to her puppet.
Zhongli: Gives all responsibility to his people.
Venti: Ehe~
Venti is hella underrated, he is actually the one that done the most work among the archons, especially at the early days of Monstadt; from golden apple archipelago, unreconciled star event or even Dainslef collected mischaleny about venti, and hell even it was being mentionef several times, monstadt was once mountanous frozen wasteland not lush green as we know now, it is barbados aka venti who use his power to cut down the mountains and throwing them off to the sea, in what now becomes haar island or golden apple archipelago, and throwing the largest mountain in Tevyat, pylos peak, to the sea, to what is now, musk reef, aka the location of spyral abbys, not only that, vento also drive off storm from monstadt, so monstadt will be the land without storm this is the thing that have been said by that girl with church of favonius uniform at the area around stormbearers mountain, venti also taught people of monstadt how to harness wind and taught them how to build windmill all of this is the reason why monstadt
After all of this he goes off to sleep,but from the manga, he definitely didn't have control over his sleep, and even ask himself how long has he been sleeping, and wake up to monstadt already under the yoke of Lawrence clan, this is my speculation, but he looks like overspend his archonic power especially since he is a god that didn't get worship at thr beginning, vannesa's rebellioj would be impossible to succeed without venti's direct intervention, and he once again handed monstadt to it's righful owner, the people
Fast forward during catacalysm , venti and dvalin are the one that defended monstadt from the attack of the largest dragon that ever roam monstadt, durin, you can see the remnants in dragonspine mountain, in which why the mountain being named like that
And idk if you realize it, monstadt archin quest are the only archon quest where the archons actually greatly help in handle the crisis,without venti we stand no chance against corrupted Dvalin, hell without venti we wouldn't even survive
@@briantarigan7685 Every archon did their best for their people. If we consider the archon war. The only reason liyue ever existed was because of zhongli. And raiden help inazuma went through that whole corruption events during khaen's fall, too.
@@briantarigan7685 I agree. he is so gracious that he lent dvalin airlines to klee
@@briantarigan7685 Zhongli who has been a hands-on protector and ruler of Liyue for 3,000 plus years until his retirement, invented Mora from his flesh and blood that built Liyue and its economy to be the economic powerhouse that it is right now and the richest nation in Teyvat, personally did a house to house pest extermination campaign for years because he's so concerned that his people were terrorized by these pesky slimes and despite being their god still would disguise himself as a commoner so that he could personally observe the situation of his people from the ground and then later on decided to retire because he deemed the erosion that he is experiencing would endanger Liyue yet some rando had the audacity to compare Zhongli's deeds to some twink who has done the least for his nation in terms of nation-building LMAOOOOOO
Venti just had no responsibility to begin with
I was anticipate the release of Sumera but then when you mentioned Caste system. Hoh god... I can foresee Genshin future storyline is getting darker than those annoying puzzles.
Hoo boy sumeru future suddenly become dark
Caste system? Dang-
Imagine if Sumeru Archon Story is a full blown Yu Gi Oh episode, with card battles. It's the city of Wisdom, full of Egyptian flavor.
My theory: Sumeru is divided into two regions in conflict with one another, primarily in terms of ideology
Can you imagine if it's a mirror of 7th century politics where desert nomads take over the sedentary forest neighbours? Since ideology and beliefs play a part, it might mirror the Islamic expansion where a group of monotheists antagonize a society of pagan "fools and ignoramuses" for fighting against the Truth.
Sumeru can be our most compelling story arc yet.
Sumeru archon probably only benevolent dictator whos teaching dharma/karma so kusanali or archon bassicaly based on srikrishna
I really want Snezhnaya to be some sort of system where the Tsaritsa gives some goal to her lieutenants (Harbingers) and from that point they do all the work, while the tsaritsa is worshiped as their divine representation
This is actually a real thing in Russia. Putin gave orders and goals to the Oligarchs like boosting the economy, increasing oil sales, military spending, etc etc. I do wonder if corruption culture plague also run Snezhnaya.
Oh and don't forget the KGB/FSB ehem... I mean Fatui sending agents ehem... "diplomats" to influence all of Tevyat's nations politically.
@@darnit1944 I'd say more of china than russia. china is literally like that. the ccp gives the orders and the local and provencial govs are told to get this stuff done.
Remember kids, just because it seems to look nice in the game doesn't mean it would work in real life, Capitalist Oligarchy and Military Dictatorship is very very terrible in real life
Indeed. A lot of political systems here in Genshin would not look well in real life
@@KlemenTime yeah, the only thing that make this nations looks nice in the game is because the characters we met have a rare and pretty unrealistic morality for their position and power, i mean, a group of oligarchs with unchallenged authority actually care for the wellbeing of their people? In real life oligarchs only care about their business empire and see the nations only as resources to exploit for their wellbeing
because of walking breathing nukes called archons, they really have no choice
Of course. I feel like genshin does try to express this with a few citizens coming from disadvantaged lives and then expressing that, but doesn’t depict the insane amount of humans that are greedy, terrible, evil people, especially within the high government and hold power. Often times we end up defeating or deposing those ppl in the game, but it doesn’t happen like that in real life of course.
Didn't help the fact teyvat have a huge amount of immortals or non humans too under these systems not only human
I am glad someone noticed the lack of Daimyo rulers in Inazuma. I knew right away that Hoyoverse based Inazuma on Edo Period Japan once Zhongli mentioned Inazuma is undergoing the Sakoku Decree. Perhaps they removed the Daimyo system since the whole nation’s activities are limited to Narukami Island only and that the daimyo system could actually get confusing based on the hierarchical statuses of families.
One funny “coincidence” is how traveler arrived at Inazuma through the use of Alcor going thefe under the guise of business, which seems similar with how Black Ships arrived at the Edo Japan back in 1800s.
I was kinda hoping they add a emperor too that was like the mandorin from iron man. He looks menacing but he’s just a funny guy who we befriend while ei deals with everything lol
@@iamnumber4ization Isn't ei the empress already. Why would you need another emperor?
@@dieptrieu6564 clearly you don’t know about Japanese hierarchy. Yes Raiden is the empress and the shogun but in real life those were two different people
@@iamnumber4ization I'm not talking about real life. I'm talking about the game. Raiden already fulfill the role of both empress and shogun. No reason to add another emperor
@@dieptrieu6564 do you not see what the lady wrote you idiot? She wrote about daimyos a title that was not in the gane. I wrote about the emperors who was also not in the game. It would have been nice for those these roles to be in the game. Imbecile
12:13 a bit of theory. I think the yashiro commission isn't just cultural arm, that's just a facade. the real purpose of them i think is espionage.
because of the shumatsuban right ?
Interesting point. Knowing that the Shuumatsuban has been with the Kamisato family for generations
@@KlemenTime or, another theory here, shumatsuban predates kamisato clan.
or, I'm just drunk and yashiro commission is really just a cultural arm of the shogunate, and the shumatsuban is loyal only to kamisato and not the shogunate
@@advanceringnewholder Yep Shumatsuban is loyal only to Kamisato since they helped the rebels setup their ambush
@@advanceringnewholder that exactly what happen. Yashiro responsible for cultural part like what is stated.
Shumatsuban are exclusively Kamisato clan retainer and doesn't belongs to the Shogunate. Ayato character trailer and how Miko (because she is trusted associate with Yashiro with same goal) show the Shumatsuban doesn't belongs to Shogunate
There is another possible theme in Snezhnaya; in the world quest, it was said that Arlecchino (one of the Fatui Harbingers) opened an orphanage for Orphans, which then were trained and then sent on infiltration mission (maybe as spies since they were trained to become the Fatui) so there may be a ‘Russian Spy’ theme added to it.
That sounds like something straight out of Hitman
One of my favourite world quest
Yes! I also personally think the Tsaritsa might just be the only archon who is trying to fight Celestia, and the fatui harbingers are kind of like her human weapons to achieve that goal. She also wants to be aware of each nation's opinions on it, so thats why there's all these fatui doing politics. She wants to have them by her side when the time arrives, but tbf I think Dainsleif is right and she doesn't really love her people, but she's definitely "pretending" she does, so that they'll work better. It's SOO weird to me how Dain says that her people doesn't love her, but 90% of snezhnayan npcs and fatui absolutely adore her... I think she's having something similar to North Korea lol, where only some people aproved by her can get out of the nation, while it's common folk die of poverty and things of the sort because they all overwork for the military.
@@hey7492 I don't think the actual fatui fighter like her. They are in constant pain due to the experiments as said by their voiceline. The only one praising her are the normal grunts agents and of course the harbinger
Yeah I quickly sense Putin and KGB from your opinion
for sumeru i think that its really interesting to see the schoolars tittles are reverse in contrast to rl monarchy bc it may hit us that (as well as dainslef did it in the past) the enemie of the wisdom is the wisdom itself its meaning maybe is about how sumeru values more misinformation and ignorance rather than actual knowledge (as a way to prevent the schoolars to know the truth about teyvat) so it would make sence that the talented ppl (higher ranks in monarchy in real life) have the lowest academic rank in the game
Always a pleasure to watch Klementime's analysis!
19:34 love how you added Himeko and Theresa lmao
I find Watatsumi's political status interesting because it's clear that Kokomi inherited her position whether she wanted it or not, but she's also shown to be struggling with the duties that she has as a result. She doesn't seem to want the position, but puts up with it because she owes it to her people. She makes public appearances and speeches because she knows that's what I leader needs to do to help their nation, but all she really wants to do is crawl into her secret cave and read The Art of War in peace and quiet. (The traveler literally reads her a commentary on that very book as a bedtime story.) I'd be very surprised if there weren't real Absolute Monarchies that had this problem of a ruler that didn't feel qualified for the position, but didn't have anyone to take over for them.
I mean, we know cases when rulers openly did not take responsibility after their role, so it would not be surprising that some rulers just swallowed the bitter pill.
I just can't apprehend the unecessary casualty of Tsaritsa, I know she wants to dethrone the Celestia but hurting everyone in the process is too much.
She could just not care about anyone else. She could have just been so broken 500 years ago that "She no longer has any love left for her people".
This is why she is not a hero and not a villain. She is an antihero
Even inside her own people the casualty are scary to look at. Some of Fatui in the chasm though that it was better to stay there and die from hunger then to disobey the order... That just sad
Like Venti and Zhongli said, the Tsaritsa completely changed after the fall of Khaenri’ah. Perhaps she completely lost the love in her heart despite being still hailed as the Archon of Love.
yeah, she sounds like the "ends justify the means" kind of person.
Thank you for one more great video. Loved it.
always satisfying listening to your fantastic inquiry and theories! looking forward to watching more of Klemen-tea-time!
Omg. Thank you for discussing this kind of content. I was actually interested in the world building of Genshin Impact especially how their world functions. The university where I graduated actually did an online forum and discussion on the geography and political climate of Genshin. Sad thing is that I wasn't able to join. But yeah, I really like these type of content. Thank you
Wow I'm happy to hear that these types of topics interest a lot of Genshin players. We appreciate the feedback and look forward to delving into more of these kinds of analyses 😊
This is the type of genshin content that I love. How we can use real-life to explain genshin nations. You gained a new subscriber today!
Interesting that you pointed out the Teutonic Knights. I've known the Teutonic States for a quite some time however never related it to Mondstadt due to the former's militaristic and crusading nature and the latter's emphasis on freedom. However, I disagree that Mondstadt is anything close to a monarchy. Parliamentary Republics however, are much closer. Most monarchy implies that power is inherited. Only in a select few case do elected monarchy take place. However that is only in name, such as the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth with a "elected king" that essentially serves as prime minister for life. Mondstadt on the other hand is not a monarchy in practice or in name.
I see. It's great to read these feedback and I'm learning a lot more about the political structures and how this is shown in Genshin 🤔
@@KlemenTime i thing the better way to call mondstadt is a monactic oder
Actually, i must appreciate your work, and in my opinion you are the best genshin youtuber. I wonder how much effort you need to put to find those facts about game and how they are related. Dont stop workin bro, because youre doing great job and i love to watch all of your videos
Thank you so much! I appreciate the love and support :)
Always underrated clean analysis. I hope you grow more your youtube I salute your efforts. Thank you for nice content.
Zhongli: Order and Lawful
Shogun: Ideological
Venti: *burp* RuLe?
That's why I love him lol 😅
Zhongli in the thumbnail is just standing there... MENACINGLY!!!
Snezhnaya seems more based on Soviet Russia - cult of personality around the supreme leader; sacrificing in the present to reach the future goal of utopia (super communist); the backhanded dealings reminiscent of Russian Soviet foreign policy; the massive militarized feel that has tinges of industrialization (which yes, came later to Russia than the rest of the world irl but Genshin likes to flip things).
Slightly unrelated: I think the Tsaritsa might be collecting the gnoses to take on celestia since the cataclysm probably broke her like it broke the 3 archons we’ve met
Idk it’s giving Cold War but Celestia is “The West” and Sznezhnaya is Soviet Russia
Nah i think it was base on both of them since the cult personality even happen during tsarist era eg peter the great name the city with his name, authoritarianism in snezhnaya also have smiliarity with both tsarist and soviet era russia (wich is probably devloped even during muscovite principality era in response of lack of peasant and lack of devlopment in northen russ like moscow, bloozero, tver and others not to mention weak rule result in anarchy like time of trouble after death of boris gudunov) the so called ultimate goal ideology also present in tsarist russia like how they need liberating constantinople, became sole leader of slavic people and so on , and regarding foreign policy just like snezhnaya they also agressive but i think soviet type in foriegn policy is more strong since snezhnaya prefer use spy and fatui to conduct its mission instead openly declare war
And regarding industrial devlopment while soviet hace late but quick devlopment of russia, tsarist russia also make devlopment to to catch up with wester europe (albeit not very much in industry and more smaller compare to soviet)
@@bintangyudha4777 This is why I headcanon the February, October, and August Revolutions(the last one's technically a putsch, but whatever) in Snezhnaya.
@@zerefsunlimitedshipworks do know except if snezhnaya have anti tsaritsa (or archon before her) movement wich mirorred 19-20 century oposition to tsar from liberal, norodnik(populist), manshevik, bolshevik, anarchist, non russian nationalist than we dont know for sure not to mention hoyoverse probably didnt go for such detail and have more than one refrence well look at inazuma while it base on edo period japan it not very smiliar specially regarding how daimyo rule only have some vague idea eg like how three most powerfull family hiragi, kujou and kamisato have its estate and duty while lesser nobility like kaedehara have less influence this probably in refrence of even older japanese period wich i think early middle age japan when tachibana, fujiwara, taira and minamoto family dominating the politic
The Cataclysm is what defined the future and fate of Teyvat, so much so that even their Archons were heavily affected by the tragedy since Celestia called upon them not as Gods of their nations, but likely as weapons of mass destruction. Interestingly, Khanri'ah(?) seemed to be a force to be reckoned with as well considering there were even Archons who died in that event. I wonder how dark Genshin's storyline will become in the future and how it'll impact (pun intended) on our characters' own stories, especially the twins.
This is all speculation for now but I truly believe that the twins already have prior connections to Teyvat before they arrived, as if something had pulled them into Teyvat and their arrival wasn't entirely accidental. That, along with the sibling's connection to Khanri'ah itself since they seemed to be the most devastated of its destruction (aside from the cryo archon apparently). Perhaps they helped them evolve their technology and alchemy? Perhaps they were even among Khanri'ah's rulers? I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
I dont think late aristocracy period mondstadt is absolute monarch sure it was authoritarian but not absolute since lawrence clans rule monstadt with other nobility and their position more like first among equal and not to mention in venti story quest stated no one wear crown in monstadt after decarabian demise
Basically the only absolute monarch in monstadt is decarabian 2600 years ago and he didnt rule entire monstadt only western part of it and late aristocracy period monstadt more like noble republic (for example sture regency in late medieval sweden, renaissance period italian city like florence or bologna)
I mean can we really consider andrius's part of mondstadt as a nation? There're no people to survive in such cold bllizard, lol. For all intent and purpose it's mostly a wasteland there. So you could say that decarabian rule the western russia and anrius rule siberia if that made sense
@@dieptrieu6564 current monstadt actually is andrius domain and gunhildr led people settle them before end of war and death of decarabian
@@bintangyudha4777 Yes, i know. But if we are talking about the past. Then his territory was just wasteland due to the intense blizzard
@@dieptrieu6564 If the wolves of Teyvat are as intelligent as humans, then they technically have a nation, lupical, under Andrius.
@@adiaphoros6842 I don't think they do, not on the level of humans. Regardless, we are talking about the human's civilization who currently live in mondstadt. Not the wolves's tribe that long gone. Hence i make that siberian example
You sound so much like Kazuha!! Your storytelling is so soothing and engaging. Thank you for being your wonderful self! Love your videos so much.
This was very impressive. Thank you for sharing.
I can't wait for Sumeru to be released
5 class described in sumeru isn’t class of india , instead it’s class of “hindu” religion . 5th class (untouchable) were oppressed pretty badly . woman had to pay taxes if they cover their breast ( even in public) , if they enter any other classes house or temple it becomes unholy etc . this class system has been gone but still remain little bit of it .
Just for clarification, varna system was not typical caste system and was decided by work not birth. Secondly, Dalit wasn't even part of Varna system and was added in Medieval times(though I agree that they faced discrimination)
@@krishnadas_3740 i don’t know much about this system , but i don’t think they had any choice to promote or demote to other class.
@@farhan.1832 actually no
There used to be promotions as someone could rank up to be a brahmin if they were learned.
But the brahmins later stopped this practice as they wanted their power to be absolute and no one should touch them.
Also you mentioning this as a class for 'hindu' only is not correct as the other popular religion in India islam also has a caste system in India, it's still being practiced in rural areas.
Also the tax that you mentioned (breast tax) was actually imposed in previous the state of Kerla till 1859
It's not all India you shouldn't put specific taxes of certain areas in general arguments. You could use so many different better examples for the oppressions on the untouchables
Those scene and beautiful views are fascinating I enjoyed watching them for all day
I have been so long waiting for any video talking about this topic in Genshin Impact. Could you please also talk about Enkanomiya? I mean it’s political status because I think it’s not a part of Inazuma but I’m not really sure. Thanks body.
This made me even more excited for the upcoming nations.
interesting analogy, im quite fascinated by how u elaborate those kind of theory and facts to all of the nations even though the four nations has not realesed by hoyoverse yet
Nice work! Absolutely enjoyed watching this analysis. I hope this gets updated once we get to Snezhnaya or Khaenria’h . Now that we’re in Fontaine, it’s just going to be a few years now when the remaining nations are released.
Morax looks so dangerous in the thumbnail!! omg so good
Nice content and great production value
Thanks!! :D
You sound a little similar to Kazuha
Probably just me tho
I don't have him to fully know
i was just thinking the same
he sounds like a mix of kazuha and albedo
@@kae_unifactory yeah I was about to comment the same
Ok but the thumbnail looks cool
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i hope you update this again in the near future, maybe after fontaine hehe
Apologies, but I really adore your voice ^^ 🙈 As Soothing, calm and still dynamic it may be, your pronounciation of some cultural terms is also really good :3
It helps focusing on the great research and information you also provide for everyone, thank you :)
A great video as always!
....woahh your voice almost like Kazuha voice. So neat! Hahahaha!
Brilliant analyses and work on the pronunciation!
This is the only history lesson that I won't miss 👏
I really like Watatsumi. De jure, they are not a country but de facto, they are a country that even stronger than Mondstadt in some aspect. They also have some limited diplomatic relations with 6 other nations in Teyvat.
Stronger than mondstadt?
Watatsumi island barely grows crops, and they also need to be sponsored by the futui which is a total scam
And some aspect which aspect im not being rude or in anyway i just want to know more
Maybe for Sneznaya, there may be themes of totalitarianism ?
Hohoho can't wait for an updated vid of this now that Fontaine's released
Kahenri'ha was mention to have a monarchy but we will need to wait for more
For a constitutional monarchy to exist, you need a royal family (the aforementioned monarch), so Mondstat wouldn't qualify. I've lived in both Australia and Malaysia, which both have constitutional monarchies. In both places, the Queen/Sultan is the Head of State (in Australia's case, Queen Elizabeth), but they don't have a day to day role in Government. In Australia, a Governor-General is elected to be the Queen's rep and has a few set duties, such as signing off on bills, performing ceremonial duties, or approving the appointments of the Parliament. (I'm not sure if the Malaysian Sultanate also does reps given that they're still in the country.)
The Head of the Government - the actual people in charge of running the country is the Prime Minister, based on election. There is a bicarmeral government - the Senate and the House of Representatives, not unlike the US. (The US is a republic, since the President is the leader and there's no monarch involved.) That doesn't seem to be the case for how Mondstat runs, but Fontaine could have a very similar system, or go the full Republic route.
Oh I understand your point. So Mondstadt's political structure is really far from a Constitutional Monarchy and is closer to being an Ordensstaat instead 🤔
I’m from the Coffee & Culture Discord and I subscribed. ;>
Love this analysis. I find Genshin Impact's worldbuilding, especially the political system, interesting. We only have a few hits about the other regions and I can't wait to discover them soon
If I would’ve shown this to a non native english speaker and show them kazuha’s en va they would probably not notice the difference lol.
I actually thought it was Kazu's EN VA for a second lmao
You sound like Albedo, I love it 😭🙌
Once all Nations have been revealed then the War will begin Archons vs Abyss, Brother vs Sister
lol darling it's already begun
@@TheProdigalProphecies Yes the Chasm gave us a solid plot sorta like Naruto and the Tailed beasts in regards to Duvallin, Andreas and Osial with the abyss trying to control them so they can make a Super Bio weapon….
wow this was so informative... so much to think about
I really love your videos and your voice 💕🥹🫣 Please upload more :)
Never knew my ap world class was in this video
did i just saw modi' s pic XD great video btw
Can't wait for Sumeru and the dendro archon Little Lord Kusalani.
Do some chasm lore next please
its only been out for a day
We'll try giving a summary soon :D
@@KlemenTime thankk uuu
your voice + golden apple music is free therapy
This is really interesting topic to discuss
Im sure MHY did not go this deep either.
7:18 that would be an aristocracy. Where the power in in the hands of a small group of nobility.
Also a constitutional monarchy isn't really that fitting for mondstadt, since the monarch and the constitutional organized government should be equal in power.
From my understanding the type of government that Snezhnaya would have is probably going to be something similar to Inazuma with a Military kind of dictatorship, I remember there was a video where it points out how Snezhnaya's government has control over the entire nation purely through its military and that it has things like spying on its own citizens kinda like how the Soviet Union got with their KGB but still we won't truly know what Snezhnaya's government works or the other nation's government works until we actually see them in game or in the manga but this video does serve a good insight of what may it be
I need a sumeru update
I think an interesting idea for Natlan is a sort of tribal area where small areas are ruled by warlords and the constant fighting breaks out to prove out who is the strongest.
Great Analysis, Tho is it just me or does anyone thinks that you sound like Albedo and maybe a bit of Kazuha as well.
Notif gang Love your content!
Venti: whacky woohoo, you can do what you like
Zhongli: follow the rule and order or get smashed by rock
Raiden: Ding dong your vision is wrong
I hope Klemen make a new video about this with Sumeru is finally revealed :D
I swear this man is kazuha he even has kazuha as his profile which is cool. Sir are you kazuha secretly?
Well as you see, I am but a wandering samurai that you could have run into just about anywhere :)
@@KlemenTime So what your saying is YOUR KAZUHA lol whens your banner coming out man?
@@loom9119 speaking of that...
nice!
Can you make a series on the current political systems around the world?
Do you want his channel to be demonized or something?
Venti = "I have a nation to rule, what?"
He basically dont give 5 cent of fxxk what was going on. Lol, Apparently Celastria doesnt not have annual peformance review. Other wise, Im very sure he wont fare well under any measure.
omg you sound like kazuha
Nice video
It's kinda weird because Monstadt is the land of freedom, yet still not democratic. I'm also interested in Fontaine's government as the land of justice.
Hey at least Monstadt is more country of freedom than some country of freedom I know in our world
Pleasure to watch but.... HOW YOU BE OBTAININ EL INFORMACÍON THO???🤨🤝 informaccion of like sumeru and whatnot.... am very intruiiiggeeedd😑😏
Wasn't the Shogun closest to the Tenryou comssion and therefore the Kujou clan?
I mean, she's a military leader after all, it would make sense for the closest to her to be the military.
Besides, the Kujou estate is literally besides Tenshukaku.
Yes you do have a fair point but according to one of the NPCs in Tenshokaku (Naoe Hisamasa - the guard near the entrance), he says that the Yashiro Commission appears to be closest to the Shogun so naturally they are closest to the people of Inazuma 🤔
I can't really say for sure if what he says is true as Genshin's lore has many different perspectives and interepretations
Whenever speculating about Natlan I think it's important to consider afro-latin american influences tbh. The little girl we see on the roadmap trailer is called Iansan, and that's the name of an entity in religions like Umbanda, Candomblé, Santeria and the Yorubá religion. These are all practiced in Africa and were brought to Latin America later on.
I see. I admit I haven't done too much research on Natlan's possible cultural reference. However, I'll be sure to consider these on my future videos about Natlan 😉
Not the will smith genshin pictureeeeeeee
you sound like kazuha!!
Sorry but venti in the thumbnail is just so funny 😭
19:36 Never let you go... Teriteri daishouri!
i am shooketh to see himeko and teriri there :')
Man I cant imagine Zhongli and Guizhong without Liyue. Imagine how corrupt the Liyue and the Qixing is if Zhongli didnt guide them (without making a contract to Ganyu)
I was learned a lot about this. Then I got distracted and forgot again bc of this 20:08 lmao
9:28 - Man literally predicted Lantern Rite 2023 with 80% accuracy wtf??
Has anyone ever told you that you kind of sound like Kazuha's English VA?
ahh yes new video
What about Khaenri'ah? They're from Teyvat like the Primordial one's remains.
I don't get why people don't support this valid canon content so they can actually judge whether Genshin's lore is good. And not those false, not cannon theory that other channels do. Then they would comment "oemge Genshin lore is so good and interesting". Like dude those videos you watch aren't canon. This channel right here is the canon lore master of Genshin yet you don't even care about his content. Lmao
yeah for real. i know the other channel has good content, but most of them just their headcanon is made me kinda feel unfair when this channel put many research and references to made their content. i just hope this channel get more hype from genshin community
Yashiro Commission also working for public and civil administration, dirty work for inazuma in shadow
Pack it up kazuha
OMG it's the mother of dragons!!
im not going to lie, but this court thing in fontaine reminds me of greek mythology
i dunno, but they have a bunch of troupes of women in there
like theres the muses, and then theres also that vestal virgins and this isnt a group but theres the oracle of delphi too
Fontaine is speculate to be base in the "new world" in our time line. (aka North America) I will expect it will have a political system somewhat resemble (with elements from) the USA and Canada.
How archons rule their nation
Anemo archon : I’m gonna be a musician, you guys can look after yourself.
Geo archon : sets up a fake act of his death setting a nationwide uproar.
Electro archon : Makes a robot and dumps the responsibilities on it .
Dendro archon : nobody pays attention to me.
🤣🤣
This dude sounds like Kazuha
Idk if this is popular opinion or not, but the size of these supposed "nations" in game world is quite....small.... It's almost the size of villages. There's no way they can have population of more than 2000, especially Inazuma
how did u get clips of all playable characters in one room? ty!!
With the power of Gacha 😉
Jokes aside, I just used masking in editing 😊
use bigger subtitle text plz , even better if inside a box like layer .
nice voice bro
Why do you sound so much like Kazuha? Good video and analysis but like… I felt as if Kazuha was the one telling me all of this.
19:45 whys himeko and theresa over here ?