Hidden Elements REVEALED || The Light - The Dark - Genshin Impact Theory

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
  • THEORIES ARE BACK!
    In this Genshin Impact Theory I discuss why I think I've discovered the root of two hidden or forgotten elements in the world of Teyvat and they've been hiding right under our noses all along.
    #Aether #Lumine #GenshinImpactTheory
    Join the Teyvat Historia Discord!
    / discord
    Join this channel to get access to perks:
    / @teyvathistoria
    Genshin Impact's social media:
    WEBSITE: genshin.mihoyo...
    DISCORD : / discord
    TWITTER : / genshinimpact
    UA-cam : / genshinimpact
    FACEBOOK : / genshinimpact
    REDDIT : / genshin_impact

КОМЕНТАРІ • 1 тис.

  • @TeyvatHistoria
    @TeyvatHistoria  2 роки тому +44

    ✔Check out these playlists for more Genshin Impact content:
    😢Character Origins: ua-cam.com/play/PLn2_heBLYy7-92SSW4nCc3i71-J85Dp5T.html
    😎Theories: ua-cam.com/play/PLn2_heBLYy78YQkvvNWAoU62yGW-BaHx2.html
    🤷‍♂Things you Might Have Missed: ua-cam.com/play/PLn2_heBLYy79-WDS_sjkaERLIV11A2cnG.html
    Catch me on Twitch! Twitch.tv/TeyvatHistoria

  • @ilaripeltonen4330
    @ilaripeltonen4330 2 роки тому +1487

    I found out an interesting detail: In the fight with the Sustainer, Aether actually lost his weapon, so the light we see him use against her can take physical form.

    • @deathwingthedestroyer3632
      @deathwingthedestroyer3632 2 роки тому +189

      Yeah he basically tried to punch her

    • @Nick-qm7br
      @Nick-qm7br 2 роки тому +44

      Yeah your right I didnt notice it at all

    • @slayemall6473
      @slayemall6473 2 роки тому +28

      I don't think they lost it; they put it away like the charactes in genshin do

    • @mysterysauce69
      @mysterysauce69 2 роки тому +130

      @@slayemall6473 no they lost it
      if they just put it away they would not be using dull blade in cutscenes right now
      ig the sword will be used back later after snezhnaya in place of dull blade

    • @ilaripeltonen4330
      @ilaripeltonen4330 2 роки тому +169

      @@slayemall6473 If you pay close attention to the cutscene at the start of the game, and focus on the one you chose (I'll use Aether as an example), Aether's sword got absorbed into the cubes. Aether manages to evade the cubes by abandoning his weapon, but Lumine, who never let go of her beloved sword, got absorbed by the cubes.

  • @sirmaximilliam153
    @sirmaximilliam153 2 роки тому +906

    Remember the namecard obtainable after completing all 'Elemental specialist' achievements? it goes like this:
    "Light can refract into countless colors, but people stop at seven because they're lazy to count. Perhaps the elements are like that, too."
    With Marchosius (aka Guoba) lore we also got a 'new' elemental symbol: the fusion of Geo and Pyro (Geo as a base and the flame of Pyro), this new symbol represents Marchosius origin 'Marchosius, God of the Stove, born from a spark when stone struck stone'.
    If we relate light to 'Celestia' (we are constantly told that Gods descends upon the mortal realm), then the 7 elements are just oversimplifications of countless building blocks, and oversimplifications always tend to left something important behind.

    • @Hydrastic-bz5qm
      @Hydrastic-bz5qm 2 роки тому +73

      There are only 7 elements because there are only 7 gnoses. Before the archon war, there were countless elements, but these got rejected after the war.

    • @elmolovesyou2320
      @elmolovesyou2320 2 роки тому +18

      so there should be 12 elements?
      or more since the whole purpose is that they dont stop at a certain number.

    • @jeremygoulet1704
      @jeremygoulet1704 2 роки тому +58

      What you said made me think of something. If there was really only seven elements AKA seven Archon and seven Gnosis, there shouldn't be other elements right?
      However, we know at least three other parties that showed powers that does not seemed related to those of the seven elements :
      1- The sustainer of heavenly principles (We still don't know what power she was using)
      2- The God of Time (In mondstat region theyre are ruins that relate his existence and Venti also knows him)
      3- The Abyss Order / Dainsleif (Could the Abyss be an element in itself? Also I put Dainsleif with the Abyss Order since they came from the same contry but their power could be different)

    • @Shon_-
      @Shon_- 2 роки тому +15

      @@jeremygoulet1704 **god of time that sounds an awful like Paimon**

    • @1mol831
      @1mol831 2 роки тому +4

      oh yea, xiangling become pyro and geo user would be excellent.

  • @RogueZAI
    @RogueZAI 2 роки тому +2806

    The theory was great and easy to understand as always but moving to the important part..."sigh" we have found it, the strongest weapon one and only DULL BLADE.

    • @jaimemiranda8265
      @jaimemiranda8265 2 роки тому +23

      wait, what??

    • @Zarozian
      @Zarozian 2 роки тому +153

      We always use the Dull Blade in every cutscene.

    • @drchin2853
      @drchin2853 2 роки тому +190

      When you realized that aether and lumine are just playin windtrace for 500yrs....

    • @zefanyalt5944
      @zefanyalt5944 2 роки тому +98

      traveler dull blade in story are stronger than any *5 weapons

    • @You-sh5hu
      @You-sh5hu 2 роки тому +29

      I use dull blade _👁️👁️_

  • @artexius
    @artexius 2 роки тому +1401

    You know that the traveller is winning once he gets that Golden Aura.

    • @stick7535
      @stick7535 2 роки тому +122

      With the power of plot armor and anime protaginist powers I shall kick your ass!

    • @zefanyalt5944
      @zefanyalt5944 2 роки тому +100

      or using two elements like when he fought childe

    • @fintzwaltstein5484
      @fintzwaltstein5484 2 роки тому +41

      The plot armor aura.

    • @ghostie8905
      @ghostie8905 2 роки тому +4

      Kinda like kirito’s god eyes

    • @gnrngkcntnf
      @gnrngkcntnf 2 роки тому +4

      @@stick7535 and friendship!

  • @Aeginous
    @Aeginous 2 роки тому +804

    Wow, I thought I was the only one that noticed this. The game is almost to an obsessive point always points out how the Traveler doesn't have a Vision, even though he doesn't need one.

    • @deathwingthedestroyer3632
      @deathwingthedestroyer3632 2 роки тому +63

      In fact it’s utterly useless to them

    • @rizalsalasi4273
      @rizalsalasi4273 2 роки тому +50

      Because that world have vision as their main thing. If it was a world where magic as the main thing, then they will probably do the same thing. And isn't it the same irl? Technologies are our obsessive points for most of people

    • @Aeginous
      @Aeginous 2 роки тому +35

      @@rizalsalasi4273 But the Traveler is essentially able to manipulate "magic" without a Vision, yet acts like he isn't special cause he doesn't have one.

    • @deathwingthedestroyer3632
      @deathwingthedestroyer3632 2 роки тому +4

      @@Aeginous how dafuq does that make any sense?

    • @annaairahala9462
      @annaairahala9462 2 роки тому +62

      I've found it especially strange when you realize that manipulating elements without a vision is actually fairly common despite it being treated as something non-existent.
      The archons, gods/adepti, various monsters, delusion holders, and slimes moreso than anything else are all able to manipulate the elements without a vision. Signora being shown able to manipulate pyro without a vision despite having roots as a human I think as a very intentional thing set up in the latest archon quest

  • @orapoix6877
    @orapoix6877 2 роки тому +926

    This makes the chess theories (cause u know, black and white) a whole more interesting.

    • @Ironpecker
      @Ironpecker 2 роки тому +102

      Also it makes sense on why there are only 7 elements but 8 pieces for two sides.
      The king pieces may be related to the gnosis of those who wield those powers, the white king maybe resides in celestia right now but the MC may be able to ascend and steal the throne, while the sibling is the black king.
      The only little thing that I don't like and would have been really cool imo, would have been if somehow aether was the black king and lumine the white king. Since lumine moved first in teyvat and aether moved after her

    • @orapoix6877
      @orapoix6877 2 роки тому +67

      @@Ironpecker tho for Lumine to be in the white makes total sense. As you said she was the first to move and she has a white outfit while aether has a black one.
      LOL, that's what I both love and hate about genshin. There is too room to theorize and debate rn.

    • @kaedeharakazuha740
      @kaedeharakazuha740 2 роки тому +57

      @@orapoix6877 maybe Genshin Impact was inspired by Yin-Yang ☯️
      You know like.....good in evil and evil in good
      Also maybe Ather is the black king because in the end of game their might be a plot twist where we find out what we consider doing right was wrong all along from the start....I think it would be really cool to find out we were the bad guys all along and we didn't even know about it

    • @mathewgeorge121
      @mathewgeorge121 2 роки тому +11

      @@kaedeharakazuha740 that will make the game superbly interesting , how would the story end, It will be hype to see what will happen then

    • @kaedeharakazuha740
      @kaedeharakazuha740 2 роки тому +8

      @@mathewgeorge121 Personally I like the game's story more than the game
      What about you ?

  • @makka_was_here3952
    @makka_was_here3952 2 роки тому +356

    The story line keeps getting darker and darker and I’m starting to get worried(the charecter death in story and blood in shouguns story quest feels like it’s only the start)

    • @pearliichuu
      @pearliichuu 2 роки тому +70

      If you’ve never played mihoyos other game honkai it gets super super dark and has so many character deaths

    • @makka_was_here3952
      @makka_was_here3952 2 роки тому +25

      @@pearliichuu NOW IN EVEN MORE WORRIED 😭

    • @pearliichuu
      @pearliichuu 2 роки тому +16

      @@makka_was_here3952 I’m scared too 😭

    • @nanamiyuzuri4905
      @nanamiyuzuri4905 2 роки тому +44

      Well, there’s a lot of deaths in Genshin Impact, such as Crepus, Teppei, Signora and possibly Lumine. We don’t know for sure. But I’ll cry if Abyss Lumine dies

    • @Permiton
      @Permiton 2 роки тому +20

      @@pearliichuu I cried like a rain when Himeko died. But she's back in the sequel of Honkai. She'll be the first one I'll get when Honkai StarRail is released.

  • @awildphen
    @awildphen 2 роки тому +779

    The travellers are stuck in an endless time loop at the moment and thier loops only started getting easier when they discovered the strongest element of all, plastic, specifically mom's 💳

    • @takotakotakotakotako
      @takotakotakotakotako 2 роки тому +73

      I know you're memeing but when I heard the Abyss Sibling say "we've always had enough time" in the we will be reunited story quest, I went on a search for Pepe Silvia and developed a theory that they need to be together because only then they can be somewhere at the same time. Mihoyo says both travelers are canon. Through the Paimon menu, we can only skip time. My theory is that the Abyss Sibling can only rewind time. So they already lived through their journey, and, upon discovering the Truth of this world, they decided to go back in time to avenge Khaenri'ah, leaving their sibling behind until they could figure out how to free them from the Unknown God's prison. Unfortunately, that means they can't aid or join us (yet, I assume), but they're confident that we'll reach the same conclusion they did because they've literally been on our shoes before rewinding.

    • @thienphucn1
      @thienphucn1 2 роки тому +30

      "The whaling has already begun. It is just a continuation of past purchases. The devs goad us on with the promise of their 5-star characters. Rewards for the worthy. The doorway to Gacha. Yet buried in the depths of this games lies smoldering remains, a warning to those that dare rolling. "That character on the banner is not reserved for you." But F2P arrogation never stops. None will escape the whaling . See for yourself."

    • @froeloe
      @froeloe 2 роки тому +4

      @@takotakotakotakotako if so, Chrono (Time) is a possible element.

    • @kowth9r
      @kowth9r 2 роки тому +1

      Lmao I didnt expect this 😂😭

  • @ScarfmonsterWR
    @ScarfmonsterWR 2 роки тому +285

    The game even says that before archons, there used to be many gods of many different elemenents. It all changed when Celeastia created gnosis. Also, Zhongli giving up his gnosis equals him not being allowed to rule over the land/nation of Liyue, even though before the Archon War a gnosis wasn't required. It all heavily implies that the current 7 Archon setup is very much by design of Celeastia.

    • @denebvegaaltair1146
      @denebvegaaltair1146 2 роки тому

      Do you mind sharing where the game gives that information about the multiple elements? I might have missed it

    • @deathbystraws15
      @deathbystraws15 2 роки тому +16

      @@denebvegaaltair1146 I'd say the time god lore, a god barely talked about, and nearly forgotten, but stated to have existed at one point. Time doesn't fit into any other element but it's own.

  • @raineybby
    @raineybby 2 роки тому +564

    maybe instead of light and dark we can look at as corruption and purity, corruption resembling the negative and dark energy and purity resembling the light and positive energy, we’ve seen the traveler purify dvalins tears that were corrupted by the abyss, perhaps when the other traveller was taken by the heavenly principals it corrupted them granting them the ability to manipulate the dark energy

    • @Arikatsu69
      @Arikatsu69 2 роки тому +5

      i agree

    • @drkufdrahrepus2868
      @drkufdrahrepus2868 2 роки тому +7

      Dark literally is just an umbrella term for corrupt, evil etc xD

    • @koumori5263
      @koumori5263 2 роки тому +49

      @@drkufdrahrepus2868 Not always, a common trope in fantasy is how light and dark are just tools and can be used for good or evil in either hands, and its the misconception that light and dark are inherently good or evil that misleads the protagonist for fighting for light, only to discover they were fighting for evil all along.

    • @qwesta3278
      @qwesta3278 2 роки тому +12

      That could explain how Aether could purify dvalin's tears at first

    • @enviiu
      @enviiu 2 роки тому +10

      ig it could also explain how traveler could hold the sword that albedo gave us?

  • @greenisnotacreativecolour
    @greenisnotacreativecolour 2 роки тому +446

    Light and Void: Lumine and Aether.
    It's literally their names.

    • @6th_Army
      @6th_Army 2 роки тому +36

      Lumine = Main character.

    • @explodingtrashcans
      @explodingtrashcans 2 роки тому +104

      lumine’s name in chinese is 荧(ying),which basically can mean light
      and aether’s chinese name is 空(kong), which means empty.

    • @pixelice6889
      @pixelice6889 2 роки тому +56

      @@6th_Army both are cannon, oof, but no, still aether, too much women energy in one game lol

    • @hiii4636
      @hiii4636 2 роки тому +22

      @@6th_Army ? Aether is also the main character.

    • @laynejohnson4452
      @laynejohnson4452 2 роки тому +28

      With a bit of emphasis on alchemy, I’m surprised you didn’t come to the conclusion that “Aether” was the fifth element constructing the human body.
      Lumine being stars.
      The purest of elements vs. the incomprehensible alchemical prosy of creating a star.
      Basically “simplicity vs. incoherence”

  • @analogicaleuphimism2078
    @analogicaleuphimism2078 2 роки тому +158

    I'm pretty sure the blue and gold auras are a form of pure elemental energy, like the type of energy found in leylines. The color likely represents concentration with blue being the normal color and gold as the purest. The pure energy likely gets converted into one of the seven elements when being used by something like a Vision or an Adeptal seal, similar to how electricity gets converted into mechanical energy and heat when placed into a machine motor. Pure elemental energy and the supposed positive "Light" energy is probably the same thing.
    Also the Dark energy has a name, it's called Abyssal energy and we see it everywhere Abyss order-related from the Heralds to Dainsleaf. And it's been explicitly mentioned as a contrast to Celestia's power which is elemental energy.

    • @jonnychill711
      @jonnychill711 2 роки тому +4

      Omg you are right, on Guoba's back there is a symbol which is likely representing the pyro and geo emblems together

    • @randomscroller9347
      @randomscroller9347 2 роки тому +13

      I remember one of the cards in the recent theater mechanicus had an effect that mentioned "celestial thunder" which was golden or perhaps pure thunder.
      So it's likely that the canon names for light and dark are just celestial and abyssal, respectively

  • @Hehe-yx8tm
    @Hehe-yx8tm 2 роки тому +337

    i was a bit disappointed by the rushed archon quest but these videos really help me rethink and appreciate it more, thank you for your great work as usual! looking forward for more as usual

    • @dimensionalblade2778
      @dimensionalblade2778 2 роки тому +45

      It wasn't rushed, it's just unlike low AR players who needs to increase AR to proceed, we don't.

    • @annaairahala9462
      @annaairahala9462 2 роки тому +9

      Do the world quests already. I'm a little tired of this when the world quests expand a lot more on the archon quest and we are still getting more of such content up until sumeru

    • @vctmmhendra
      @vctmmhendra 2 роки тому +3

      yup same i also disappointed because it rushed 5 more patch to 2.0 but ppl just want it now and i still hate it.

    • @deathwingthedestroyer3632
      @deathwingthedestroyer3632 2 роки тому

      It’s as if they let a sloth write all of it

    • @garb8933
      @garb8933 2 роки тому +15

      @@vctmmhendra bro there was never gonna be a 1.7, 1.8 or 1.9 they already planned inazuma to release after 2.0. the only reason its "2.0" is because its a new region, so when sumeru comes (probably after 2.7 or 2.8 or something ), itll be 3.0

  • @Ariff_Playz
    @Ariff_Playz 2 роки тому +101

    9:04 "But Aether remains silent..."
    I means, hasn't he always been silent. 😂

  • @mitsuumu3091
    @mitsuumu3091 2 роки тому +73

    I just also wanna point out that it’s possible the attack the traveler did to the unknown god ruined the sword they were using which would explain why they still use the dull blade in cutscenes; it’s what was left of the weapon after that explosion. We know that the traveler didn’t want to change clothing during Ayakas story quest because it has sentimental value for them, so that’s probably why they kept on using the dull blade; it’s a reminder of their former power. Just my thoughts. Idk.

    • @michael-prime9567
      @michael-prime9567 Рік тому +1

      I am sorry to be that guy but in the scene after you chose and named your traveler you can see he lets his sword losse and that it gets absorbed by the sustainer making that big attack before the traveler gets absorbed more like the anemo elemental burst (don’t know how else to make a clear picture how the attack looked)

  • @kennethgabrielocampo4694
    @kennethgabrielocampo4694 2 роки тому +203

    The missing elements that support all other elements, are time and space. Together, they give all elements the power to exist. Once separated, elements would cease to exist, and so is life. The siblings are Gods of Time and Space. That's the reason why the unknown God had to separate them from each other: to weaken the power they share when together. And that's the reason why they can resonate with all the elements. Lumine, created a portal in the quest, which means she has control of space. Same goes for Aether who can freely travel through teleport waypoints. And as we know so far, the traveler is the only one using those waypoints, as we are the one who's unlocking it across the map. Since Lumine completed her journey first, she might have created those space waypoints knowing that her brother's power after he wakes up would not be as strong, and would find it useful. It is possible that Aether is the forgotten God of Time in the secret island, since he was trapped for another 500 years after Lumine woke up. That is enough time for people to forget. This is my theory. It also makes sense that they can travel from one world to another, another proof that they have control over time and space.
    Check out Greek Mythology, they have 9 elements there, 7 of which what we have in the game. The other 2 being time and space.

    • @Roses_R_Red_
      @Roses_R_Red_ 2 роки тому +15

      Oooooo that's actually a nice theory

    • @kennethgabrielocampo4694
      @kennethgabrielocampo4694 2 роки тому +39

      @@Roses_R_Red_ this also makes sense when Lumine said "we always have enough time" because they have control over it.

    • @orionchevalier7398
      @orionchevalier7398 2 роки тому +16

      That might make sense
      "In Greek mythology, Aether, or Aither (/ˈiːθər/; Ancient Greek: Αἰθήρ, romanized: Aithḗr, pronounced [ai̯tʰɛ̌ːr]) is one of the primordial deities. Aether is the personification of the "upper sky".[1] He embodies the pure upper air that the gods breathe, as opposed to the normal air (Ancient Greek: ἀήρ, Latin: aer) breathed by mortals.[citation needed] Like Tartarus and Erebus, Aether may have had shrines in ancient Greece, but he had no temples and is unlikely to have had a cult."
      Aether's name in JP is 空 (Sora) which means sky. So in a way it makes sense. Though the god of time greek is chronos

    • @kennethgabrielocampo4694
      @kennethgabrielocampo4694 2 роки тому +17

      @@orionchevalier7398 in science Aether is the element that supports and amplifies all elements, hence supporting my previous statement. That, being the reason why he can resonate with all of them.

    • @qwesta3278
      @qwesta3278 2 роки тому +9

      Well Aether and lumine's names both have correlation to light and space

  • @CEOmagi
    @CEOmagi 2 роки тому +202

    Imagine if sustainer turned out to be the good lady and be like: "I planned this since the beginning I did all this so u could distroy Celestia"

    • @qiqiyeo3339
      @qiqiyeo3339 2 роки тому +10

      that would be epic

    • @AnilKumar-hp1qg
      @AnilKumar-hp1qg 2 роки тому +34

      Because she has lost her honkai power, her main goal in this universe is to just revive her Honkai stability and return to Honkai. The traveller's sword resembles the blade Durandal from Honkai which is a powerful honkai source.

    • @gagbagtoboyz
      @gagbagtoboyz 2 роки тому +8

      Fk that shiet. I will still ice her with Celestia.

    • @nervesofsteel1865
      @nervesofsteel1865 2 роки тому +16

      The main point everyone seems to be missing is that Sustainer actually made the twins STAY. They were leaving anyways but she appeared for no specific reason, seperated them and basically forced them to be locked up in Teyvat. It has always felt weird tbh but no one is talking about it

    • @eulalawrence1222
      @eulalawrence1222 2 роки тому

      @@qiqiyeo3339 7

  • @maraj117
    @maraj117 2 роки тому +200

    Coincidentally my friend is playing through this quest when they meet right at this moment hahaha.

  • @yuuzelthyc9683
    @yuuzelthyc9683 2 роки тому +82

    This proves Kazuha is so pure, pure enough to completely snap the traveler out of his trance just by being near him-

  • @thegrimmestpeace
    @thegrimmestpeace 2 роки тому +158

    Makes me think that Pierro, the First of the Eleven Fatui Harbingers, quite possibly uses the dark element as his main ability instead of one of the seven natural elements of Teyvat. He more than likely still uses a Delusion of one, but he seems like a very obvious user of the Shadow element to me. He has a relatively noble cause, but one born of negative, dark ambition of vengeance and anger, the desire to bring ruin to those who destroyed his nation and people. That's what I'm thinking anyway.

  • @strawberrymatcha6284
    @strawberrymatcha6284 2 роки тому +58

    these theories are so wonderful but i must admit I’m so afraid of mihoyo wasting the potential of their stories and going for something extremely basic and predictable. I was wondering how mihoyo would do Inazuma’s quest since the initial potential of it was amazing- epic storyline, great characters and narrative. But then they wrapped it up with one ugly, wonky ribbon in the form of bland solutions (the power of friendship at the end with Ei), and wasted character potentials (basically nullified any “bad” things the electro archon did by giving her a soft sweet side to make the fandom love her and .. kokomi…). They really ended that chapter badly and you can tell that, as the game gains popularity, the difficulties are dumbed down, they become more pushed to release chapters and meet the fandoms expectations (selectively though, as they seem not to care about the fandom when it comes to rewards >_>).
    Anyways, my main point is that this storyline has massive potential, enough so to be maybe a ground braking game that could honestly leave its own legacy in mobile and gacha history. But, mihoyo seems extremely prone to wasting potential in order to meet deadlines, or satisfying the “money” side of the fandom by dulling down characters.
    I only hope the ending conclusions are as intricate, detailed and magnificent as these theories you come up with!!

    • @TeyvatHistoria
      @TeyvatHistoria  2 роки тому +12

      While I don’t really look at much of the recent developments through the same lens as you do, I’m really grateful that you appreciate my insight and if nothing else hopefully my theories and lore highlights will help you maintain a certain level of enjoyment from the story overall.
      Thanks for the great comment!

  • @Waterwolf221
    @Waterwolf221 2 роки тому +22

    Theres also an important factor that many end up forgetting. The fact that MC purifies Dvalin's Tears from the corruption they once had, something that not even archons could get rid of and those corrupted tears originating from the poison left in Dvalin's body after the fight against Durin.

  • @allenkagami2438
    @allenkagami2438 2 роки тому +50

    This might be something un-essential but i think the traveler we chose still has their original power
    My only clue is that only mona and aether can summons stars from their palms in their idle animation

  • @slayemall6473
    @slayemall6473 2 роки тому +51

    Speaking of this dark and light theory ; brings to notice; that the corruption on dvalin was "purified" by just coming in contact with the traveller
    Maybe these powers are inherently counteractive just like qua and Img in honkai
    Maybe our traveller will have to fight this dark energy head on to truly awaken his light energy
    Tho it'll be years before that happens

  • @zefirdude
    @zefirdude 2 роки тому +25

    Original "light" power is indicated by white colour in siblings costumes. The thing is, that by using dark power Lumine still has white light emanating from her dress, only her sword changes (like a cursed weapon). I think This power is corrupted light or corrupted Celestial energy. That would explain why they needed distorted statue of the seven.

  • @SeminarChauffeur
    @SeminarChauffeur 2 роки тому +177

    "Abyss Herald uses dark power to create a portal."
    Umm how about those portals created by the fatui to assault the jade chamber back in 1.1? Are they the same thing?

    • @deathwingthedestroyer3632
      @deathwingthedestroyer3632 2 роки тому +44

      Since Abyssal Magic and Archon Residue are the same, I’d say it’s also the same.

    • @nabieladrian
      @nabieladrian 2 роки тому +9

      I'm sure Fatui has their own derivatives of Abyssal power, they're brother in arms.

    • @legatuslolicon
      @legatuslolicon 2 роки тому +3

      ​@@nabieladrian why would they be?

    • @deathwingthedestroyer3632
      @deathwingthedestroyer3632 2 роки тому +1

      So basically Durin’s blood has the same effects as abyssal magic.

    • @Ninkumpop
      @Ninkumpop 2 роки тому +1

      @@deathwingthedestroyer3632 we don't know if they are the same

  • @Mortal_Tezer
    @Mortal_Tezer 2 роки тому +119

    THIS VIDEO IS SO GOOD AAAAARGHH

    • @coolsillycolor
      @coolsillycolor 2 роки тому +1

      wasn’t expecting you here

    • @ROBOLLAMAS
      @ROBOLLAMAS 2 роки тому +1

      i also wasn't expecting u here xD

  • @Arikatsu69
    @Arikatsu69 2 роки тому +41

    At the start of the game when the traveler is speaking with paimon, he says something "after i woke up....my powers were gone", stating that he knew about his powers already and wasn't just an ambition of a second when lumine was being taken away. So I think aether wielded the light element but his powers were locked within him and currently his powers only resurface when his ambition reaches its peak (like you said). I may be wrong, feel free to correct me or share your ideas.

  • @yuuki2765
    @yuuki2765 2 роки тому +145

    I guess for my theory here is collecting all elements allows you to ascend to celestia
    More edit: yes "collection" why im saying this? Remember that teyvat trailer said "seven treasures" which is represent elements and "doorway to divinity" also kazuha proved us that you can wield more than one vision. So my theory here is if you have all seven elements you will be able to ascend to celestia

    • @bmo3778
      @bmo3778 2 роки тому +1

      Ash from the other dimension: did you say, "collection"?!!

    • @dipsimply183
      @dipsimply183 2 роки тому +9

      What about Vanessa ascending to Celestia without a single vision? The traveller could’ve just ascend there in some archon quests before getting all 7 elements maybe

    • @yuuki2765
      @yuuki2765 2 роки тому

      @@dipsimply183 its just my theory its just a possibility to be true dont take it too serious xD

    • @Favilein
      @Favilein 2 роки тому +4

      @@dipsimply183 i think Vanessa's "ascending" is just an early rephrase of her death of age. She was human all along. And as we say XYZ is a legend or god and never will forgotten after the death, people of tevat may something like this in their context as well.

    • @Ironpecker
      @Ironpecker 2 роки тому +4

      That makes sense, but why then would lumine have been stuck on teyvat? She has reached the end of her journey so she should have been able to ascend at this point.
      Maybe dainsleif had a hand in stopping her, but I'm not sure the motivations would line up, and especially I'm not sure why lumine hasn't remedied yet. Maybe there is a ritual to ascend to celestia, and dainsleif ruined her only chance, so now she patiently waits for her sibling to complete his own journey and travels, while tending to the abyss order

  • @Ren_rz
    @Ren_rz 2 роки тому +153

    About the dark energy that affected the traveler could it have anything to do with that one Dainsleif line of soul darkening that showed Aether?

  • @carlodelacruz2694
    @carlodelacruz2694 2 роки тому +37

    I would love to play the other sibling's path before we get to the end of the story. Like a flashback or as its own chapter with its own set of characters. That would be dope.

    • @Cake-um7je
      @Cake-um7je 2 роки тому

      The final chapter is called chapter "?" so maybe it is a flashback of sorts?

  • @draculacat5616
    @draculacat5616 2 роки тому +26

    your videos are so ridiculously well made, I love how the music synchs with the tone at certain moments and all the footage that really sends what you're saying home, quality stuff

    • @TeyvatHistoria
      @TeyvatHistoria  2 роки тому +8

      Thanks! I work very hard to produce my videos with careful consideration of each layered track whether it’s Audio or Visual for the best story telling experience.
      I’m glad you liked it ^__^

    • @draculacat5616
      @draculacat5616 2 роки тому

      @@TeyvatHistoria keep up the good work :) subbed and I hope you hit that 100k soon!

  • @sonicthehedgehog4744
    @sonicthehedgehog4744 2 роки тому +24

    Imagine if traveler was the first dendro character.

  • @mika-mf7bi
    @mika-mf7bi 2 роки тому +10

    light: I can give life to dead charters.
    everyone: oh no qiqi! time to swich to hu tou .

  • @giorno_giovana3502
    @giorno_giovana3502 2 роки тому +106

    This is actually a really nice theory. Makes a lot of sense, just to clarify there are the know 7 elements which has their own gnosis. But what about the light and dark elements? Do they have a gnosis? What do you think?

    • @huismands
      @huismands 2 роки тому +13

      Perhaps light and dark act as a sort of vessel instead, the outer layer of the Gnosis. The tension between the two keeps the essence of the element in question "trapped" within so to speak.
      Probably not. But maybe...

    • @giorno_giovana3502
      @giorno_giovana3502 2 роки тому +1

      @@huismands good theory, but I think they play too big of a role, it feels disappointing if that's the explanation

    • @trollcreativestudios1084
      @trollcreativestudios1084 2 роки тому +2

      Maybe paimon was sent by someone (our sibiling?) to keep us in the light

    • @Ironpecker
      @Ironpecker 2 роки тому +4

      The gnosis represent chess pieces, but not the two kings pieces, maybe the two elements represent the white king and the black king.
      Maybe celestia has the white king right now, but aether could possibly overtake them, while lumine has been destined to just oppose the white king (celestia no matter what)

    • @rolfjohnnavea8164
      @rolfjohnnavea8164 2 роки тому +2

      well paimon mentioned that the traveler is worth more than a gnosis. maybe that's a clue?

  • @sabre7236
    @sabre7236 2 роки тому +11

    I would say that this the game has introduced the concept of someone having an affinity to positive/negative energy other than the traveler before, with Chongyun, who has a an abundance of yang (positive) energy, and in the lore he never reveals what goal/ambition led to him receiving a vision. He also claims to have personality changes when the yang energy takes over...somewhat similar to the traveler acting differently when confronting Scaramouche or at Tenshukaku
    (and yes dw I know that yin/yang and Chongyun's story tropes are not only a genshin thing, it just struck me as interesting that the game incorporated this concept which initially appeared to only affect one character)

  • @hadisparrow8722
    @hadisparrow8722 2 роки тому +132

    my guess is that we might get these elements after we get all the 7 ones.
    nice video! I hope we so more details about the light and dark elements soon in the story ^^

    • @anthonyowens8822
      @anthonyowens8822 2 роки тому +17

      I’m thinking that the light element may be a combination of all the other 7 elements, and the dark element is like the anti-element or absence of an element. This would make sense because white light is a combination of every color of light, while darkness is the absence of light.

    • @hadisparrow8722
      @hadisparrow8722 2 роки тому +2

      @@anthonyowens8822 make sense

    • @nakulsawarkar5800
      @nakulsawarkar5800 2 роки тому +4

      I think something like this will happen
      We could be able to intract with the upside down statue from 1.4 and from there we might be able to wield that unknown element

    • @nelsonstone9861
      @nelsonstone9861 2 роки тому +1

      Star element

    • @maximumleech7929
      @maximumleech7929 2 роки тому +2

      I imagine that most of the plot's mysteries about Celestia will be revealed in Snezhnaya. It seems like Her Majesty The Tsaritsa would be the only Archon who will give us straight answers as she defies the Heavenly Principles. I think mysteries about our sister will be revealed in Khaenri'ah, possibly including these elements.

  • @pelop598
    @pelop598 2 роки тому +5

    One thing that I also find interesting is how you can actually see the traveler in their constellation, much like the archons.

    • @TeyvatHistoria
      @TeyvatHistoria  2 роки тому +3

      Indeed. I’m sure that’s an intended correlation with their whole ability to resonate with all elements. Possibly setting us up to become the true god of Teyvat. Who knows?

  • @Sanguiris
    @Sanguiris 2 роки тому +42

    Assuming that rewinding of the explosion was Time magic, she could very well be Venti's lost friend, the God of Time (coincidentally, in the Paimon menu as it is called, we have the option to fast-forward time but that might just be a game mechanic)

    • @exprezgamer3658
      @exprezgamer3658 2 роки тому +1

      yeah maybe aethers attack really damaged her but she rewinded time and was shocked because of the power of element and using her powers to seal the travellers she ended up turning herself back in to a child paimon

    • @Sanguiris
      @Sanguiris 2 роки тому +3

      @@exprezgamer3658 Or, you know, she could have just turned herself into a smaller non-recognizable form to watch the Traveler

    • @dudafox2351
      @dudafox2351 2 роки тому +4

      Not only that but when we open the menu everything stops except paimon

    • @gweny5281
      @gweny5281 2 роки тому +1

      @@dudafox2351 and the the windmills too you know.

    • @dudafox2351
      @dudafox2351 2 роки тому

      @@gweny5281 really? interesting...

  • @FaultyWires
    @FaultyWires 2 роки тому +37

    DUUUDE ive been wanting there to be a light and dark ability in the game so we can play dainslef and light traveller

  • @guykiller1212
    @guykiller1212 2 роки тому +4

    I think the evil siblings (Let's go with Lunine) journey was the same as Aethers in terms of order...she visited each kingdom in Tyvat and helped them with their problems much like her brother did and befriended people and The Archons as well.
    From what we know from the treiler the last kingdom that will unlock for us would be Khanriah...I think that was the last kingdom for Lumine as well, where unlike everywhere else they helped her look for her brother actively as well.
    But when "the incident" happened and Khanriah was demolished by the Archons she once saw as friends it may have triggered her Dark Ambition...now why doesn't anyone remember her? Well besides Venti and Zhongli all the archons are new and after that war.
    Alsk Dainslief was cursed to Immortality...so the magics here are powerful. Perhaps Lumine was forcefully removed from the remaining archond memory as a symbolic way to "burn" the friendship they once had?

    • @iicherrie
      @iicherrie 2 роки тому +1

      If we look at one of venti's voice lines, he says
      'we met again traveller, wait you don't remember me... ( Or something like that)

  • @zechariahhye926
    @zechariahhye926 2 роки тому +6

    This game needs to be turned into anime with no less then 8 seasons

  • @himmel_channel
    @himmel_channel 2 роки тому +21

    I found that scene with the heavy atmosphere weird and did thought it was as Paimon said Shogun's power

  • @WiIIowisp
    @WiIIowisp 2 роки тому +2

    wouldnt it be neat if there was an actual reason behind the colors of each element which would explain why light and dark almost match geo and electro

  • @oriane9314
    @oriane9314 2 роки тому +6

    I also noticed that the parts of aethers clothes that glow in game were dark in the beginning, but lumines are white. This may also be hinting that there is some kind of power she possess that aether doesn't anymore, since when they fight the unknown God these parts glow white on both of their clothes

  • @roquecruz3851
    @roquecruz3851 2 роки тому +3

    We need a video on Dull Blade and why it’s canonically the strongest weapon we’ve seen

  • @yixo
    @yixo 2 роки тому +4

    There seems like 4 to 5 different energies imo.
    1.: White light is only seen on twins clothes and maybe their wings and sustainer when she blocks the 2 swords.
    1.1: Golden light you can see on sustainers feet when she walks in the air and her star shaped gates before they turn dark red, all over both travelers, on sigils of permission when Childe calls Osial, on the jade chamber scene and in Ei's purified realm.
    2.: Cosmic blue-black is on Dain and Paimon.
    3.: Purple smoke is in abyss and Khaenr'ah, also coating sibling's sword.
    4.: Dark red you can see on sustainer cubes and Ei's realm expansion.
    P.S.: If I had to guess what each of those is:
    White: actual divine (god) power
    Gold: divine creations
    Cosmic: time
    Purple: honkai
    Dark red: space/void
    Also I don't think travelers will ever have a vision or a gnosis.
    World is dying the actual creator is gone the sustainer yeets the 2 siblings down and puts their power into the land so if they want it back they have to cleanse it. Sustainer guards actual heavenly kingdom while celestia pretends to be god and honkai is here to f everyone. Khaenri'ah let it out into the world accidentally so sustainer went to plug the hole and fkd it up. Bottom like I feel like it's not enough clear info to really understand anything rn.

  • @ellazhuwu
    @ellazhuwu 2 роки тому +12

    yooo!!! i've had this theory for a while as well, really cool to see you speaking on it!

  • @MoonStar_Studios
    @MoonStar_Studios 2 роки тому +4

    I will always wonder why theorists have those soothing talk show podcast voices and they really just make you understand everything 😌 it’s just really nice 👍🏽

  • @pixelwatchanime8163
    @pixelwatchanime8163 2 роки тому +3

    So Chongyun positive energy or yang energy is maybe a key of the story. If chongyun able to control his yang energy. A cryo and light ice boy. hmm I like it.

  • @LISA.WANG.
    @LISA.WANG. 2 роки тому +31

    That’s a very interesting idea, the twins being more adept at absorbing these supposed elements like conduits. Makes me wonder what Dain was using, something more blueish but with a galaxy theme

    • @zeiccia
      @zeiccia 2 роки тому

      probably the same thing, he wants revenge from Khaenri'ah being destroyed and his immortality curse.

    • @LISA.WANG.
      @LISA.WANG. 2 роки тому

      @@zeiccia Ya but the blues look pretty different from the black purples

    • @zeiccia
      @zeiccia 2 роки тому +1

      @@LISA.WANG. So? Dendro mages have a light green AoE and dark green vines while shields are usually brown, color doesnt mean much

    • @zeiccia
      @zeiccia 2 роки тому +1

      @@LISA.WANG. I can also mention Mona's galaxy themed powers, Kazuha's brown ult, Raiden's also black purple ult, etc.

    • @LISA.WANG.
      @LISA.WANG. 2 роки тому

      @@zeiccia Ya those are known elements, you think Dain's looks like water? Like Mona's skills? We were talking about hypothetically new elements

  • @clawrigue
    @clawrigue 2 роки тому +1

    What if, it's more like space and time?
    Dain seemed to phase shift to enter the abyss portal as if using some sort of power to manipulate space which can be attributed to dark theme. Also after exiting Tenshukaku it's more like the space around us is disturbed which cause the heavy atmosphere and not to mention most portal aka abyss/warp points are represented in darker colour variation. Remember the upside down statue? It was teleported there by the abyss mages or how most of them have teleportation powers(aka heralds)?
    As for time/light, remember the time god quests? We can only find the lost light at night and being able to control night and day(despite being a game mechanic), may also shows either we somehow have the remnants of light energy or confirming the theory where Paimon's the time god. During the beginning cutscene, Lumine has already traveled the world once while Aether is trapped in the meteorite(spaceship), so how can he still be healthy if not for Lumine's time/light energy that protected him that whole time. This also brings a point where, we did not actually resurrected during Baal's fight but revert back to when we're actually full health, which corresponded to why the sustainer was only able to seal us instead of finishing us off. Also, our sibling once said "We have always..had enough time" showing that they once have the light/time attributed powers?
    But it's just a theory tho.

  • @echodragon6
    @echodragon6 2 роки тому +3

    The energy that surrounds the Traveler in the Scaramouche scene is very similar to the one that surrounded the Evil Sibling, I love this theory

    • @deathwingthedestroyer3632
      @deathwingthedestroyer3632 2 роки тому +4

      Which makes it all the more bullshit when you realise that the Traveler is able to purge and purify corruption

    • @Elcoin
      @Elcoin Рік тому

      @@deathwingthedestroyer3632 who knows, maybe the travellers are able to weild both the light and the dark elements or something

  • @zoroark522
    @zoroark522 8 місяців тому +1

    I believe Collei had this as well, a pure and genuine hatred/darkness that manifested in a black fire that would only eat living things. She was also "cured" of this and eventually got a true vision. Also, another thing I noticed when genshin first came out was that the domains we enter for the first time are purified by our touch, just like the tears.

  • @suryapartapsinghtanwar7676
    @suryapartapsinghtanwar7676 2 роки тому +36

    have u seen Ashikai’s theory about the siblings being stars? looking at this and that together, it’s making sense out of a lot of things and also confusing me

    • @annaairahala9462
      @annaairahala9462 2 роки тому +10

      Kazuha does mention we have the aura of stars as well

    • @suryapartapsinghtanwar7676
      @suryapartapsinghtanwar7676 2 роки тому +5

      @@annaairahala9462 yea, in one of Raiden Shogun’s voice lines, the traveler tells her that they used to be one of the stars.

    • @-Blue-_
      @-Blue-_ 2 роки тому

      @@suryapartapsinghtanwar7676 is stars are powerfull than archons

    • @esshaansushma
      @esshaansushma 2 роки тому

      Could u send the video link pls

    • @suryapartapsinghtanwar7676
      @suryapartapsinghtanwar7676 2 роки тому

      @@esshaansushma if u are asking for the Ashikai vid, here u go
      ua-cam.com/video/QvrjrQ8QkF0/v-deo.html

  • @chaelan6014
    @chaelan6014 2 роки тому +2

    i feel like the sustainer is just doing her job (judging how one arm is seemingly the corrupt one and one being a cleaaner one with a 4 spiked star, it is kinda clear how neutral she is to me personally), she saw the siblings as a threat to the heavenly principles that was intended for teyvat but after witnessing how it was a mistake to try and stop aether and their powers reacted abnormally, she made a quick decision to send them back to teyvat as she might've seen them now as the balance that teyvat needed to permanently abide by the heavenly principles and thus sent lumine in a journey through darkness, possibly assisted by the sustainer's corrupt side and aether with paimon as the sustainer's light side.

  • @glitchy.a
    @glitchy.a 2 роки тому +6

    I hate that we have to wait years for the story to be complete, if there is one thing I hate is waiting.

  • @Fordrake21
    @Fordrake21 2 роки тому +1

    Nice video man thanks! By the way, there's not only the theory about the elements of light and dark, there's also someone who drew a theory about the element of "Time" too. Also Take a good look at Paimon's clothes, it's a triquetra, in old celtic culture, que triquetra would be sign of divinity, more precisely the triple moon goddess which well... in genshin there's was once 3 moons... perharps our little emergency food is much more than meets the eyes or maybe she could be it's even linked to the fact that in genshin lore, Teyvat has been experiecing a cycle of Life, Death and Rebirth. Many civilizations inside it have seen the day and sunddenly got destroyed for later then another new civilization to rise from it's ashes, this kind of cycle is also linked to the triquetra... Also i might be kind of crazy but there's also something about the Seelies (littles spirits we like to guide to statues to find chests) who were in the past a race of beautiful humanoids with great power and wisdom, they were tasked with guiding humanity in teyvat, but suddenly their existence came to a rather abrupt end after One of the Seelies major ancestors fell in love with a certain Traveler from afar... Perharps there was others travelers before Lumine and Aether too in teyvat... anyways the lore of this game is crazy good a full of mysteries to be solved;)

  • @vitor900000
    @vitor900000 2 роки тому +3

    Things that almost all theories fail to acknowledge.
    Before the Archon wars there was more than 7 elements. Havria was the God of Salt. She controlled salt and only salt. Knowing this, how many other elements could have existed in the past and what caused the main 7 to be chosen?
    Nor main character nor the sibling was sealed for 500 years. Its not know for how long either have being awake. All we know is that they awoke sometime between 2 months to 500 years ago and the main character was wandering alone from that moment until he meet Paimon.
    Were the they woke could be a very significant piece of information. Did they woke In a cave, a ancient ruin, in the Mondstadt region, in the middle of no were or in the region were khaenri'ah was located? The location could contain a lot of information about the how they where sealed and the unknow god.

  • @Alien-qg2yn
    @Alien-qg2yn 2 роки тому +1

    No wonder the Traveler uses the Dull Blade, "Youthful dreams and the thrill of adventure. If this isn't enough, then make it up with valiance."

  • @Ironpecker
    @Ironpecker 2 роки тому +3

    The chess theory starts making more and more sense, it explains why there are only 7 elements but 8 pieces for two sides.
    The king pieces may be related to the gnosis of those who wield those special powers, the white king maybe resides in celestia right now but the MC may be able to ascend and steal the throne, while the sibling is the black king.
    The only little thing that I don't like and would have been really cool imo, would have been if somehow aether was the black king and lumine the white king. Since lumine moved first in teyvat and aether moved after her.
    It could still make sense if like lumine tried to ascend as black king but failed, and now aether has the chance to either become the white king himself and overtake celestia, or become the dark king and slaughter all the white pieces in his way until he can capture the white king

    • @TeyvatHistoria
      @TeyvatHistoria  2 роки тому

      That would be an interesting twist. In fact I was considering. A plot line in this video discussing something similar. But decided to cut it for time.
      That said Consider this: When the travelers are properly awarded an elemental resonance their clothing lights up to match the respective color. So if they are resonating with the power of light and dark then they have not done so completely yet as neither appears to show a light which matches one of the two elements.
      Atm lumine does have the same bright white glow both travelers had at the game’s start. This may suggest she’s completely regained her natural powers, but Aether has not yet.
      So it’s possible that Lumine isn’t too far gone yet. The dark ambitions are trusted to her, but she’s not completely resonating with darkness…. Yet…. And even our own traveler has shown the capacity to resonate with both.

  • @joshatryu4719
    @joshatryu4719 2 роки тому +2

    This channel is very underrated. Kudos to you bro very well thought theory. Looking forward to watch more of your theories.

  • @GenesisDraws
    @GenesisDraws 2 роки тому +11

    It also helps that their names are respectively supposed to be representing darkness and light although Aether is more "quintessence/void" and Lumine is more "light" (literal and non-celestial, just sparkle) and their clothing having to embody such elements too. If you play as Lumine it would make much more sense lol.

  • @skadi5196
    @skadi5196 2 роки тому

    I've found your channel a few days back and I've been hooked ever since.
    I'm recommending all my genshin friends to check you out. You deserve the 100k.
    Keep up the good work.

  • @aloywong658
    @aloywong658 2 роки тому +4

    Ngl when the Traveler have that aura I was like "Holy crap Traveler getting Ultra Instinct or Golden Experience Requiem, Ei stand 0 chance"

  • @LuisHernandez-ne9sv
    @LuisHernandez-ne9sv 2 роки тому +2

    I’m pretty sure that when granted a vision, it doesn’t have any relation with its default goal Aka freedom for anemo, justice for hydro, etc…
    If I had to guess, this would be the values by which people are granted a vision:
    Pyro: justice and determination (Diluc, as u said has a great sense of justice; yanfei is a lawyer, Xiangling has a great determination on making the best dishes, etc.)
    Hydro: knowledge (Xingqiu is very versed in books, as Mona is with astrology, Barbara with nursing, childe with martial arts, etc.)
    Anemo: loyalty/commitment (Xiao is tied to his contract with Rex lapis; Jean is everything but free, since her responsibilities as acting grand master demands her complete attention, Sucrose has a great loyalty to albedo besides being really committed to be greatly versed in alchemy, etc.)
    Geo: ambition (Noelle has a great ambition in becoming a knight of favonius, Albedo won’t stop until he knows each and every secret of the universe, ningguang has an economic ambition since she won’t stop even after being the richest, etc.)
    Cryo: resilience (Rosaria’s backstory really shows her great inner strength, Qiqi literally revived after dying in the archons war, Chongyun won’t stop practicing his family’s profession although he has never been able to exorcist properly, etc.)
    Electro: transcendence (every electro vision haver has a distorted attachment to the mortal realm; fishl lives in a fantasy, Lisa just vibes as if nothing mattered just waiting for her dead, Razor acts like a wolf when being a human, etc.)
    And honestly I have no idea with dendro

    • @phantomblade89
      @phantomblade89 2 роки тому +1

      Just one electro charcater seems to be distotred and that fischl and it's due to loneness . How is Keqing or Beidou distorted, they seem to be pretty grounded. Lisa is seems to be at peace with the curse on her. Razor had no human interaction so of course he sees himself as a wolf as his family is a pack of wolves.

    • @aloywong658
      @aloywong658 2 роки тому

      Dendro is knowledge bruh

  • @miareyes631
    @miareyes631 2 роки тому +3

    I guess this explains how our traveller was able the purify divalin's tears in the prologue

  • @tillyread4419
    @tillyread4419 2 роки тому +1

    my speculation is that the people of Khaenri’ah are able to use these second powers (light, dark, and also able to absorb the elements without being given a vision) maybe its just in their blood or they was a different kind of species that had this ability that got lost over the hundreds of years

    • @orionchevalier7398
      @orionchevalier7398 2 роки тому

      Nah doubt it, if they do have such power, why would they bother developing technologies? The only ones we see that can do so is aether and lumine, two inter dimentional beings

  • @fruitspunchsamuraig4546
    @fruitspunchsamuraig4546 2 роки тому +3

    If you believe in this theory, it might do you well to explore what we know about Azhdaha, maybe in its own video. For instance (spoilers to Zhongli Story Quest) Azhdaha is a character deeply connected to both ley lines AND The Chasm, but is also an entity that can possess all of the current elements (barring dendro) and is also specifically able to use Yin (dark) to manifest their vengeance into manipulating others, as well as its Yang (light) to manifest its resolve into guidance.
    It is something to consider seeing as the miners who were manipulated were under Azhdaha/Jiu's control, but it could just be a nice coincidence, considering the idea of Yin Yang kind of seems to exist in Liyue already (see Chongyun) and the power seemed to look different to the abyssal powers Lumine had. Still, it was interesting to me when I first encountered it and Azhdaha, while not being directly important to the happenings of Teyvat, biologically seems to hold a lot of history in them, just food for thought.

    • @TeyvatHistoria
      @TeyvatHistoria  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah those are solid paths to walk for this theory as well. I mostly didn’t go that route because it was already pretty long as it is lol.
      But you’re 100% right, they certainly add more compelling evidence that Dark and Light exist.

  • @straykidsenthusiast
    @straykidsenthusiast 2 роки тому +2

    even the glowing parts of their outfit show the specific element and at the beginning aethers was black and lumines was white

  • @krispiek4084
    @krispiek4084 2 роки тому +3

    [Long post warning]
    I've been wondering if maybe the twins could in a sense function the same way that visions do. How visions are powered by one's ambition, they too have shown to be powered in some way by other people's ambitions such as in Liyue with the adeptal energies and in Inazuma with the people's ambitions. Also (possibly unrelated) at the very beginning of the game when the Traveler first gains Anemo, Paimon says "Did you just feel the elements of the world?" Then she goes on to say how no one else in the world can gain power as easily as the Traveler can so maybe that was all foreshadowing everything to come in more ways than one.
    I think the personality and emotions of each vision wielder probably has some effect on their manifestation of their vision (cryo-wielders being lonely, pyro-wielders being passionate). If that's the case, I think a big distinction between these two light and dark energies is that the light seems to be powered by desire to protect (Aether in Liyue and Inazuma) while the dark seems to be powered by vengeance (Lumine's vengeance for Khaenri'ah). However, those are two very similar desires that there can be a lot of moral ambiguity between the two so that could be easily swayed either way. Also I think the corrupting power that Xiao and the other Yakshas deal/dealt with as well as the Tatarigami in Inazuma may be connected in some way to this dark negative form of energy since they both seem to be powered by vengeance or some similar negative emotion. Durin's remains on Dragonspine and the corruption of the sacred sakura might also be connected to that negative energy.
    Collei in the manga also has some sort of dark power that didn't seem to be connected to the other elements or a vision but she seemed to be powered by her negative emotions and desire for vengeance but also the archon residue forcibly injected into her. I think we might get a lot more information about these positive and negative energies in Sumeru since that's where Collei and Cyno were headed at the end of the manga and Cyno seemed to be pretty knowledgeable about Collei's powers.
    Maybe the reason why the abyss twin wants us to reach the end of our journey is so we can see the true nature of the world as being horrible and unjust and see what they saw. In the We Will Be Reunited cutscene we saw the abyss twin using some dark (purple) power which Dainsleif also seems to use and they both are driven by desire for vengeance (against the gods). So far the playable twin hasn't really seen much that could stir that much anger and vengeance yet except for Signora's execution and the encounter with Scaramouche (who seems to know a lot more about the world from the Unreconciled Stars event) and Scaramouche eggs them on to "embrace the anger". I feel like as the story progresses the Traveler may see a lot more things that could push them in that direction and that might be something they have to actively resist or give in to like in a lot of LightvsDark stories.
    I was really hoping to see what other people thought of that sequence right after seeing Signora's death since there wasn't really any concrete explanation about the headaches and everything. Loved the video, can't wait for more!

    • @aloywong658
      @aloywong658 2 роки тому

      "pyro wielders being passionate"
      Diluc who wants to die: yes I'm very passionate

  • @crimsondragon707
    @crimsondragon707 2 роки тому +2

    I love this! It's so well thought out! About how the sibling gained her dark ambition... I was thinking that the sibling was basically the protagonist who was unable to overcome that dark ambition possibly because the friends she was fighting for were the people of Khaenri'ah therefore she didn't have that positive reaffirmation because the ones she was with became the abyss. And side thinking what if the archons (the cryo archon directly and the others but indirectly) and the sibling were working together to take down celestia and our character is just oblivious... The cryo archon is collecting gnosis for an unknown reason sending out the harbingers to gather them. Venti could have protected his gnosis but didn't, Zhongli willingly made a contract with the Tsaritsa to give away his gnosis to step down from archon, and Baal cut ties with Celestia, so...maybe our little traveler is a bit naive to the bigger picture? I don't know haha just some fun thoughts! Thanks for the great video!

  • @Ainzel_Klien
    @Ainzel_Klien 2 роки тому +14

    If you guys know Honkai Impacts Story then Aether/Lumine is going to fall further in the Dark side soo yeah I'm just going Hmmm whats gonna happen next.

  • @lyrathemute9644
    @lyrathemute9644 2 роки тому +1

    I think something you should also look into is what each character has in common based upon their vision, I think by seperating them and picking at each characters story we may get an idea of what these ambitions are that give away these elements.

  • @reim1
    @reim1 2 роки тому +10

    when u said that the sustainer rewinds time i immediately thought of paimon who controls time... im doubting her now

  • @rossemklyn401
    @rossemklyn401 2 роки тому +1

    By the wy, in the first trailer Traces of Teyvat, at the end you see the traveler with black color on jewels of it's armor, who is usually colored depending of the element you resonate with

  • @hirods9889
    @hirods9889 2 роки тому +3

    very interesting idea
    Toward the end you say that the sustainer capture lumine and she witness the destruction of kaenriah after that but during the dainsleif quest the traveler stat that lumine wake him up and told him they should leave because she already assist the cataclysm

  • @vetenksS4
    @vetenksS4 2 роки тому +1

    light and darkness represent the 8th element or you can redefine it.Light (sanity) posesses time properties and darkness (insanity) includes space properties (e.g. restricting space and open portals,).Both form the 8th element because without space time has no influence and keeps the status quo but also without time the space cease to exist in the first place.This would explain why rift hounds return into a space portal when they are beaten.
    Another take might be the light is the combination of all seven elements while shadow is the anti thesis of light/the elemental energy of the world.
    When I saw the Guoba story and how he sacrificed his powers+wisdom to restore the soil I had the thought he didn't do it only for the people but also for himself.Maybe the environment got corrupted by shadow and he was close to become corrupted so to keep his pure amibiton (kindness,happyness,pleasure of food,socialising with the humans) he gave up his power and status as a god to not get under control of the darkness element.
    Another thing might be that Lumine never got the opportunity to get the support of the archon statues (aka resonate with the main elements in Teyvat like with Aether).This could mean she hasn't the ability to do so she adapted to the darkness over her journey (with Dainsleif)

  • @potentiallyRealWarrenGraham
    @potentiallyRealWarrenGraham 2 роки тому +23

    "2.1 story sucks ass! Everything is rushed! Its like there was no point to it at all!"
    *Historia uploads*
    "Maybe I treated you too harshly."

    • @deathwingthedestroyer3632
      @deathwingthedestroyer3632 2 роки тому +4

      Nah I still think it’s dogshit

    • @syarifht5929
      @syarifht5929 2 роки тому

      Well signora is dead thats the point

    • @deathwingthedestroyer3632
      @deathwingthedestroyer3632 2 роки тому

      @@syarifht5929 yeah, it would’ve been better if Scaramouche died instead because it would’ve been poetic and his whole arc ends here.

    • @ZetaMoolah
      @ZetaMoolah 2 роки тому

      @@deathwingthedestroyer3632 it feels somewhat too early to kill of Hargingers imo

    • @syarifht5929
      @syarifht5929 2 роки тому

      @@deathwingthedestroyer3632 Well actually he has a lot of plot armour but okay I don't wanna spoil too much in here lol

  • @elmolovesyou2320
    @elmolovesyou2320 2 роки тому +1

    Maybe, and this is a very big maybe.
    since a ray of light is naturally white, and white is a combination of all colors.
    it could be broken down again into those colors it is a combination of, with some kind of elemental prism or in the traveler's case the vision-like thing they caeey with them.
    This maybe could be what is causing them to be able to control and master all elements.
    And darkness could be the absence of the elements within their power, when the traveler gets so emotional they try to release all elements at the same time.

  • @Zarozian
    @Zarozian 2 роки тому +3

    The Visions do seem to be given to those whose ambitions and personalities line up with the Archon of that element. The Archons might just be used as archetypes for deciding who receives what Vision. Maybe that's why the Electro Visions stopped appearing because when Ei sealed herself inside her puppet, perhaps she was deemed unfit to serve as an archetype for choosing Electro Vision wielders.
    Perhaps the twins align with the shadow and holo archons.

    • @101Mant
      @101Mant 2 роки тому

      Ei went into her mindscape centuries ago, electro visions only stopped when the vision hunt decree started.
      Also she isn't inside the puppet but the sword.

    • @Zarozian
      @Zarozian 2 роки тому

      @@101Mant She wasn't aware of Electro Visions no longer being handed out though.

  • @dancinglightsamv466
    @dancinglightsamv466 2 роки тому +2

    Wow I never realised the Sustainer looked suprised for a sec. Good stuff!

  • @deathwingthedestroyer3632
    @deathwingthedestroyer3632 2 роки тому +6

    The thing is that the Traveler can never get a vision in the first place and it’s also been stated that in their story that they can never have one in the first place, also it’s pretty much useless to them so they may get it in another way.
    Also the Traveler is supposed to be immune corruption (Archon Residue and Abyssal Magic) and don’t tell it was too much because they have been able to suppress Xiao’s karma and we’re completely unaffected by it and Xiao’s karma is collective amount of Archon Residue and he’s been doing that for 5 decades and his Karma affects everything around him even innocents which is why he stays away from everyone most of the time. Also the Traveler has killed and killed pretty much every single day so why are they know contemplating and getting a headache over it, if you say it’s because of Archon Residue then let me remind you that the Traveler also has the ability to purge and purify corruption, so it doesn’t make any damn sense.
    So in other words, the Inazuma Archon Quests are just basically an overflowing amount of plot induced stupidity. It’s as if they let a crappy shounen anime writer that was oblivious to what he was writing for.
    Finally I think the light and dark elements are actually Aether and Lumine’s original powers but it either becomes stable when there’s positive emotions/ambitions and becomes unstable when there’s negative emotions/ambitions. However their element is not from Teyvat.

    • @aichisendou6375
      @aichisendou6375 2 роки тому

      We never receive a full effect of the Xiao Karma and Xiao himself been suppressing that for ages. And Xiao avoids people bcs its bothersome to deal with these people, which are basically his simps and then some like Yanxiao or us. Why would he even unleash his Karmic debt on us? What he gave to us is his power that belongs to speed, not his Karma. Thats one
      2. All of Dvalin Tears purification is done under completely different situation than when Tatarigami is on the MC. Trying to compare the 2 is impossible as they dont have the same main variable condition, which is the feeling MC is under. And for Xiao, just look above. Osial also never have any of the "effect", otherwise all of the Millelith are going insane. Tldr, MC met Dvalin on purpose to defend their new place and friends, MC met Osial which have no evil god effects and on purpose to defend a new place and friends and then MC met Fatui while overflown with evil god effect on purpose of revenge, and all of these 3 are not comparable bcs there are missing variables with each situation
      3. Vision. We wont get one, based on previous story. But if you look at MC, arent they just another Vision? Which is a vessel of the elements? We have seen how MC gets their element. Physically is more likely to be impossible to get but MC can always absorb them, or even unlock powers in the future
      4. If Light and Dark is within the Siblings from the beginning, and if thats true theres no way that Light and Dark is from Teyvat. At least Dark can be attributed and referenced as power comes from Sea of Quanta, which is also can be conveniently called as "power from beyond"

    • @deathwingthedestroyer3632
      @deathwingthedestroyer3632 2 роки тому

      @@aichisendou6375 I’ll say it again then, Xiao’s karma affects anyone regardless and he does avoid everyone including the adepti because they’re all easily susceptible to it and it is far greater than the collective archon residue in the delusion factory. Also he can’t control his karma and his powers doesn’t relate to his collective karma and in no way does he unleash it on anyone and if you’re talking about that mask or when he uses his burst, Xiao had both since the beginning when he became one of the Yaksha’s. Abyssal Magic and Archon Residue are the same and to prove it let’s go back to Durin, Durin’s poisonous blood has the same effects as Abyssal Magic and Archon Residue and Dvalin and Venti were poisoned.
      Aether and Lumine being another Vision sounds as stupid as the power of friendship, can different visions be used simultaneously at any given time regardless of the situation or switch into a different element?

    • @aichisendou6375
      @aichisendou6375 2 роки тому

      @@deathwingthedestroyer3632 he never controls his Karma. HE SUPPRESS HIS KARMA. A BIG DIFFERENCE. And the word unleash is not for unleashing his power, but rather not keeping his Karma under a suppression. This is also how Xiao knows Morax is still alive as Morax helps Xiao to keep him from being eaten by his Karma and goes rampage by using some sort of medicine made only by Morax. So no, MC has NEVER receive the full effect of Xiao Karma, nor anyone has, so far as we dont have any leads on Teyvatians actually get cursed by his Karma, bcs if he actually does he wont be in Wangshu Inn roof for the rest of his life and follows other Adeptis path of actual seclusion. And the other thing, the monsters are the only one affected when his Karma is a bit more active, no human gets affected and obviously not the MC
      2nd, again, I'll just point out the obvious point you keep ignoring. Dvalin Tear are purified under a positive emotion state, Dvalin fight are done under the wish of helping others, Durin remnant are wielded under a strong will of knowing one self while adventurers and past aristocrats managed to explore Dragonspine without much issue other than extreme coldness and assassination plots, Osial fight are done with the intention of protecting other people and without any negative effect to anyone, Xiao, again, look above, then MC fights against Herald that wields all Hydro and no Abyssal Power in play outside portals (its also pretty easy to assume that Lector, if they become canon, will also only wield Electro while Abyssal Power won't come out until a very specific situation is presented). And on Inazuma, MC fights against Thunder Sakura Filth with the intention to help Kazari (if it can even affect anyone at that time), then the next time MC fights against Fatui in a room full of Tatarigami in purpose of revenging Teppei, mainly. If you cant see whats wrong with your "Mc cant be affected by anything" from looking at all of the situation of MC and Abyssal/Godly power on MC side, I have no more word to say other than "you're delusional and your words only exist bcs you intentionally omit the details"
      3. At least 2 different Visions can in fact work together, as shown by Kazuha. The Electro died right away after that as the original user ambition, which is Kazuha's friend, is fulfilled and therefore has no more ambition to fulfill, which is why it dies once again just like when Kazuha's friend was killed. And MC coincidentally was also able to use 2 elements at the same time, with Anemo in hand and Geo from their feet when fighting against Childe. Almost seems like their body part can wield different element from each other. Or in other words, can treat themselves as Vision of an element. And for element absorption, yes normal Vision will never have that ability. But, MC body is not something that is known in Teyvat, so they never have any kind of limitation a normal Vision would have, nor it can get decided on how they work by whoever gave Vision. That is why MC body can become the Vision itself, not the normal Vision but rather Vision that is truly unlimited in possibility and not controlled by an unknown force

    • @deathwingthedestroyer3632
      @deathwingthedestroyer3632 2 роки тому

      @@aichisendou6375 Well now it’s that you obviously don’t know as much as I do, if you were actually did go into the Traveler’s lore then we’d be on the same page. But we’re not. There so much you don’t that you’re now taking up all the seemingly fabricated shit they created as result of having very bad memory or a crappy lore master. You’re oblivious to the fact you just proved that I’m right.
      Both Abyssal Magic and Archon Residue are the same and it’s proven by the fact Durin’s (A black dragon that originated from Khaenriah who are now the abyss order) has the same effects, finally Xiao’s Karma is being continuously suppressed by the Traveler’s presence but they haven’t made contact so Xiao never got purified via being in contact with Traveler and as for the whole negative emotion and shit triggering the Archon Residue, Aether would’ve already felt it’s effects when he entered the factory since he was already in a negative state, it doesn’t fucking add up that it just happened before he attempted to rip Scaramouche’s head off, it’s basically plot induced stupidity and you’re fucking buying it. It’s as stupid as God getting knocked out by a fucking rock.

  • @OneWithTheWind.
    @OneWithTheWind. 2 роки тому

    Luma/light elemental reaction ideas:
    Radiate: pyro luma reaction: the enemy hit with this glows a bright aura that hurts enemy’s near it.
    Glimmer: hydro luma reaction: acts like melt/evaporate but for luma and hydro
    Overgrown: Dendro luma reaction: grows vines near the feet of the effected, acts like mage hilichurl vines
    Empowered: electro luma reaction: doesn’t cause an effect
    Cause two subtractions,
    1: release: if attacked by a light attack, explodes into blinding light, acts like overload
    2: channeled: basically electric charge but faster

  • @elknolasshrineofraja3966
    @elknolasshrineofraja3966 2 роки тому +14

    🌸❤️I would say a title to inspire the noggin and wet the curiosity! You have once achieved the impossible, and commanded the gaze, I am but powerless to extend it❤️🌸

  • @annaairahala9462
    @annaairahala9462 2 роки тому +2

    Whatever the name is it has to end with an o so you can attach oculus to it
    I think the elements being connected to eyes and eyes being a prominent distinct feature of many monsters/characters I actually think this may be important

  • @avelinevarlineau7123
    @avelinevarlineau7123 2 роки тому +5

    This reminds me of the Dragonspine Sword Story with Albedo.
    The sword had that dark energy inside and only the traveller could use it...
    I can't remember exactly what was going on, but Albedo researched the travellers skills.
    He seems to have an idea of that dark and light theory.

  • @MorrowMixtape
    @MorrowMixtape 2 роки тому +1

    Whatever element the traveler is currently using, their clothes glow the color that resembles that particular element. When Aether (or Lumine) is fighting the Unknown God their clothes glow white.

  • @_.c3xc4._
    @_.c3xc4._ 2 роки тому +11

    OMG AETHER IS BECOMING MORE AND MORE LIKE LUMINE- GETTING ANGRIER AND STUFF?!?!?!?? TEYVAT THIS THEORY IS SCARING ME STAWPPPP

    • @deathwingthedestroyer3632
      @deathwingthedestroyer3632 2 роки тому

      Well if actually read their lore, you would know that they’re destined to save Teyvat and not destroy it.

    • @_.c3xc4._
      @_.c3xc4._ 2 роки тому

      @@deathwingthedestroyer3632 i know that?? I didn’t say anything about destroying it????

    • @deathwingthedestroyer3632
      @deathwingthedestroyer3632 2 роки тому

      @@_.c3xc4._ Oh…sorry

  • @laynejohnson4452
    @laynejohnson4452 2 роки тому +1

    Hmmm. If you listen to this as “space and time” replacing “light and dark”, the paimon theory kinda hit different.
    Also would explain lumine’s emphasis on always having enough time

  • @MNM2INC
    @MNM2INC 2 роки тому +5

    this was such a enlightening video, ive always had my suspicions of light/dark element being introduced, but after watching this its probably going to be an exclusive element only accessed by the travellers, and alter/celestial beings like dainsleif and the Sustainer. Considering teyvat only has 7 elements.

  • @TheCheeseman1983
    @TheCheeseman1983 2 роки тому +2

    I feel like the power the travelers wielded in the fight with the sustainer was not a separate “light” element, but rather that the existing 7 elements of Teyvat are aspects of that light. Much like white light can be separated into the colors of the spectrum, the seven elements are all combined into the light itself, perhaps representing the light of creation. The dark power could therefore represent the darkness of chaos and the Abyss.
    So, the reason the Traveler can wield all the elements is because all the elements are just aspects of a power they could already control. The light and dark powers being in opposition would also explain why our protagonist can cleanse the Abyssal corruption in Dvalin’s tears.
    So, while we are traveling across Teyvat to reclaim our powers of light by uniting all seven elements, our sibling has learned how to channel the dark power of the Abyss. We still don’t know what motivates them to destroy Celestia, but I have a feeling it’s more complicated than just “because evil”.

  • @subarnaprajapati6875
    @subarnaprajapati6875 2 роки тому +3

    First time watching this content and its very good and interesting.
    Although i am in a little bit of pickle here, i thought both traveler were together during archon war and destruction of khenria and when they were trying to escape the world of teyvat their path were block by unknown god.
    This was said in " we will be reunited" quest line, when paimon asks deinslief 'what happend 500 years ago' the traveller replied he knows what happened and tell every thing to paimon but not us (the players).And dainslief was also surprise that traveller knew and he was there at that time.
    Am i missing some thing important in the time line of story , can some one explain in detail of this specific part.

  • @rellygudgamr3375
    @rellygudgamr3375 2 роки тому +1

    The thing that kinda disproves that the power traveller used during the liyue archon quest cutscene is that, when traveller strikes the floor for the jade chamber, there is a brief lightning flash, after which the jade chamber falls, this similar golden lightning was seen in the opening cutscene when our traveller wants to save their sibling.

  • @enderlordmac3336
    @enderlordmac3336 2 роки тому +3

    What if the sustainer was reacting to our siblings fall to dark. And she sealed us to be a way to save teyvat as we could resonate with light

  • @cielonighteye2776
    @cielonighteye2776 2 роки тому +1

    I think a good way to uncover the missing piece of what determines your vision’s element, is to read through all the vision stories of the characters, Barbara’s came from her need to heal the injured. Maybe Aqua is associated with protection?

  • @silverhawkscape2677
    @silverhawkscape2677 2 роки тому +8

    Thank you! I thought I was the only one who paid attention at the idea of the Traveller eventually getting a vision of some sort.

  • @barcodeverifier9256
    @barcodeverifier9256 2 роки тому +1

    Don't sure if anybody has said this but
    Lumine - Luminance basically Light
    Aether - Ether, the unusual 5th element of the 4 basic alchemy elements (Fire,Water,Air,Earth) and sometimes referred as, guess what, Void

  • @joshdaboss4663
    @joshdaboss4663 2 роки тому +5

    I sincerely hope that light and dark don't get added as whole elements. The addition of such things always takes away from regular elements.
    Additionally, the two don't seem to be exclusive elements. They act like modifications of elemental energy - After all, EVERY god with wrath releases this "dark" energy, regardless of their natural elemental power, and what was called "light" activated every vision on the statue
    Adeptal energy is not an element, but IS also energy that can be fused with the elements, so we know that non-elemental energy can be used.
    Also, positive and negative ambition? How vague can you be? Was Barbara's wish to heal others not "positive"? Was Tartaglia's wish for war not "Negative"? Yet they both got HYDRO visions. Ambition is not so vague as to be positive or negative. It has specific things it seeks.
    Finally, just because Yae mentions that the traveller may not have a vision because he lacks ambition doesn't mean that he gets a vision. If anything, ambition is the key here. He will later find his true ambition - the vision can simply be a means of explaining it (also visions don't fit any of the traveller's game, lore, and aesthetic design at all)