What If Jaime Married Catelyn Tully? (Game Of Thrones)

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  • @ifeeldead463
    @ifeeldead463 2 дні тому +75

    If this is like "Cat was engaged to Jaime instead of Brandon" situation, yeah, Petyr is still gonna get his butt whooped, this time by Jaime. To be fair, he doesnt get beaten to death but only cuz Jaime got bored and maybe felt a little bad. Dude would be holding a grudge but cant do squat about him if Tywin's still alive here

    • @dellavonta187
      @dellavonta187 День тому +2

      Naw jamie would kill him

    • @rias.gremoryyy
      @rias.gremoryyy День тому +1

      ​@@dellavonta187it depends, but I doubt it

    • @joeschultz4650
      @joeschultz4650 11 годин тому

      Jamie would take it much easier on Baelish because he has nothing to prove by annihilating a little wimp.

  • @falkranduhm10
    @falkranduhm10 День тому +50

    I can see Tywin finding out about Jaime's promotion ahead of time and suggesting it himself, which will cause the Mad King to not promote Jaime because it is Tywins idea.

    • @i0xiaY
      @i0xiaY День тому +2

      That sounds so realistic I’ll steal this for my fanfic

    • @jamescourt6554
      @jamescourt6554 День тому +1

      @@i0xiaYwhat’s the fanfic called so I can read it?

    • @Lemon-ju9vj
      @Lemon-ju9vj День тому

      @@i0xiaY do not gatekeep please 🙂

  • @thepunisher6674
    @thepunisher6674 День тому +16

    personally i think jaime would be much less depressed in this timeline than in the lysa tully timeline since cat is much more dutiful and loving than her sister and would likely try to cheer jaime up along with tyrion and ned would have a much colder marriage with lysa who might still be in love with littlefinger since neds marriage with cat started out just dutiful and not romantic and loving
    tyrion would also be much better off in this scenario since his two abusers in cersei and tywin would be dead and tyrion would be living most of his life at the rock rather than kingslanding like he did in the main story and jaime would probably be intent on getting his brother a good marriage

  • @Lord-Phantom
    @Lord-Phantom День тому +13

    One change I like because of this timeline is Tyrion keeps his wife and isn’t traumatized by what Tywin does to her in the main timeline, so more Lannisters running around…

  • @matheusdemello2323
    @matheusdemello2323 День тому +32

    What if Myrcella “Baratheon” married Robb Stark instead Joffrey & Sansa?
    What if Jamie & Tywin Lannister knows about Jon Snow?
    What if Ned won against Jamie at the Tower Of Joy?
    What if Gerold Hightower kill The Mad King while Jamie was at the Tower Of Joy?
    What if Rhaelle Baratheon, Robert, Stannis & Renly’s grandmother was still alive during Robert’s Rebellion?
    What if Robert Baratheon has a Trueborn daughter by Cersei Lannister?
    What if the Cordyceps from *The Last Of Us* was in Westeros?

    • @Muggy747
      @Muggy747 День тому

      How did you even think of the last one, that's crazy

    • @harmanjotsingh4230
      @harmanjotsingh4230 День тому

      Myrcella's too young and too southern, if not for the circumstances of war, both Cat and Ned would have understood it paramount to wed Robb to a house in the north in order to maintain allegiance, as Cat's children already have a reputation for being Tully like (apart from Arya).
      And if Princess Rhaelle was alive, Id imagine there would be less whispers of "Usurper" floating around Robert's rule and his claim to the throne would be digested better by the Lords of Westeros.

    • @feliciamulholland5137
      @feliciamulholland5137 День тому

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  • @ragabutler89
    @ragabutler89 День тому +3

    Please man you gotta start doing part 2s with these. Literally at the end of every video I'm like "oohhh what happened next"

  • @jkenzienye3732
    @jkenzienye3732 День тому +7

    23:07
    "Something harrowing for him,"
    Me: Dead, dead, dead...
    "Cersi is dead."
    Me: WHOOO 🎉

  • @GodOfChaos26
    @GodOfChaos26 День тому +14

    What if John and Danny got married before John’s identity was known?

  • @RyanWood24
    @RyanWood24 День тому +2

    I could see Rhaegar reaching out to Jamie and telling him about what him and his dad were planning (if they actually were) and then go against the mad king all together with a valid reason for overthrowing him

  • @Music-AsLife
    @Music-AsLife День тому +2

    Only thing I'll add is some Jon focused changes Tyrion and Jon still develop a close bond because Ned trusts Jaime like family in this timeline and Jon is sent off to Casterly Rock for fostering. Lysa would get over Petyr real fast because Ned would be a better match for her than Jon Arryn. Her deep devotion to Ned would cause her to embrace Jon rather than spurn him. His experience at Winterfell prior to go to Casterly Rock would be different. Jon's life could be so much better in this timeline.

  • @Marqhll
    @Marqhll День тому +1

    Your comment about Jaime leaving a scar on Littlefinger's face instead of on his chest is EXACTLY what I thought. It's funny because you said it in the video exactly when I was thinking it. Good call there.

  • @marisollopes9207
    @marisollopes9207 День тому +10

    What if Littlefinger wins the duel against Brandon Stark? (Maybe bc he tripped over a rock or sth)

    • @Charon510
      @Charon510 15 годин тому

      Brandon has a heart attack and dies mid duel 😂

  • @Unseen-sd2co
    @Unseen-sd2co День тому +3

    What if the Hound killed the Mountain during the hands tourney?
    What if King Robert stayed in his warrior shape?

  • @E.L.Tigre32
    @E.L.Tigre32 День тому +2

    Tyrian would probably be Jon's favorite uncle

  • @AndieeeX
    @AndieeeX День тому +3

    you are just cracking these videos out!!

  • @klaudiabiela3234
    @klaudiabiela3234 День тому +4

    I don't think the whole part with Starks and Mad King would work like that. Brandon was in Riverlands for his wedding with Catelyn. Considering Lysa is a couple years younger he would probably not be there at the same time. If he was in Winterfell Starks would find out about whole Liana situation much later and both Brandon and his father would have been together when they get this information so they might have prepare better plan of reacting to that.

  • @alphik26
    @alphik26 День тому +4

    could be because brandon marries lady ryswell even tho his dad dont want him to like robb and jane

    • @alphik26
      @alphik26 День тому

      shit sorry wrote this 1 min into the vid

  • @Undeath9087
    @Undeath9087 День тому +3

    I think I may have suggested this one, but either way, I did want to see it.
    Barbery... hmm, interesting choice for Brandon, at least as a possibility. But yes, at least in terms of a match, Rickard would likely be engaged either to Lysa or to the daughter of someone else (maybe someone from the Reach or the Vale).
    Baelish challenging Jaime... oh boy, he's getting his ass beat but won't be killed. Tywin staying Hand of the King? Makes sense.
    Not sure what Rhaegar would choose but either way, Varys is there. As for this, well, Aerys is killing all three of Brandon, Rickard, and Tywin.
    With Cersei being away from Jaime for so long, you could also argue he'd be less enamored with Cersei.
    Better name, yes. As for the sacking... I can imagine Aerys would set off the Wildfire before the rebels even get to King's Landing. But, if Gerold goes back... good idea.
    I do think no matter who was there when Aerys did his plot they'd do what Jaime did. With Gerold being the one to kill him, I do think he'd be less hated than Jaime, especially if he takes Elia and her kids to safety.
    There we go. Cersei's dead. That's very ironic given canon with Joffrey and Sansa- wait, there we go.
    Oh, Tower of Joy with Jaime there and no Gerold helping them? Oh boy, they're in a bad position. I also imagine there are many more survivors from the North this time. Unless it's just Jaime, Ned, and Howland going. With Cat being Jaime's wife, I imagine he might end up getting more affection from her than in canon.
    I have an interesting one. What if Aerys never went fully mad. I'd think this would go in Duskendale where he isn't taken. Either that or what if Aerys died at Duskendale.

  • @itzelgc4637
    @itzelgc4637 День тому +2

    Cersei would try to kill my girl Cat. I want to think Cat would fight back my girl Cersei 😂😂😂😂

  • @ryankolick4117
    @ryankolick4117 День тому +4

    Interesting thought but I don't think Ned would marry Lysa I think Jon Arryn would still marry her because the Starks have skin in the game with Ned's father and brother dead the only two without blood ties to the situation are the Tully's and Ayrrn and Jon Ayrrn needs an heir

  • @cycloneriot
    @cycloneriot 17 годин тому +1

    What if Tywin allowed Jamie and Cersei to marry Ellia and Oberyn Martel

  • @caidyy._ww
    @caidyy._ww День тому +1

    I just realized in HoTD Aemond trying to kill Aegon is like the lion King.
    The second son, the scared brother killing his brother for the throne.

  • @Marqhll
    @Marqhll День тому +2

    The war that would inevitably come after the fact would be interesting. It's likely that Littlefinger and Lysa would have plotted the death of Ned Stark. This would have left the North in control of Lysa who would have preserved the strength of the North when war breaks out between the Baratheons and the Lannisters. Not sure what the circumstances would be that would drive them to war but that would be Littlefinger's goal. But this could actually end up being pretty terribly different as I imagine that Jaime and Cat would have wanted to marry their hypothetical son to Margaery Tyrell and/or their Daughter to Willas Tyrell. With the Lannisters and Tyrells in an alliance the Baratheons would be unlikely to want to fight that.

    • @Hektols
      @Hektols День тому +1

      Lysa was very disillusioned with her marriage to Jon Arryn but with Ned things would be quite different and she could eventually fell in love with him.

  • @cosmiccollie5032
    @cosmiccollie5032 День тому +6

    I always thought Cersei convinced Aerys with reverse psychology, planting the idea in Aerys’ mind how taking Jaime away would insult Tywin, maybe pointing out that Tyrion would inherit, little nudges, nothing special, it worked because Aerys had become so incredibly spiteful

    • @alex52043
      @alex52043 20 годин тому +1

      That works for book 1 Cersei but she gets retconned into an evil idiot after a certain point. Her change in character is one of the more blatant plot problems in the books.

  • @kingsteve8083
    @kingsteve8083 День тому +2

    I'd love to see a Part 2 to this; so mnlany other things would change.
    When the Rebellion happened Tyrion was a child.
    Jaime loves Tyrion and will treat him with respect. He won't have Lannister guards rape Tysha and claim she's a whore. Tyrion's childhood will be much happier and he'll grow up far less jaded, with no childhood trauma from Tywin.
    I think Jaime would let Tyrion stay married to Tysha.
    Without Cersei, Joffrey and Tywin there there is no War of Five Kings. Robert will live much longer, have legitimate children and no succession crisis.
    I'd be interested to see how Littlefinger and Varys try to create chaos.

  • @VersieKilgannon
    @VersieKilgannon День тому +1

    Lysa would probably try to convince Ned to have Littlefinger join their household like she did with Jon Arryn in the canon timeline. I don't know if Ned would go along with that. But if he did, any children they had "together" would probably be Littlefinger's, thus making Ned the Robert in this new timeline and Lysa the Cersei 😅

  • @mathildeillum9518
    @mathildeillum9518 День тому +1

    Petition to change STABL-alliance to BLAST

  • @DarkApostleNoek
    @DarkApostleNoek День тому +3

    You did this all just for the excuse to use BLAST I bet, but I do really like you wanted to make alternative believable changes.
    WHAT IF....
    Myrcella survived being poisoned?
    Euron killed Balon before Theon got home the first time?
    Margaery escaped the Wild Fire?
    Rickon makes it to Jon before Ramsey kills him?

  • @alaztor1490
    @alaztor1490 День тому +1

    You should make a What if everything went perfectly for House [Name] Series

  • @simonpierre8283
    @simonpierre8283 День тому +1

    What if Renly joind Stannis. What if Stannis won blackwater. What if Stannis won battle of ice what if robb joind Stannis.. what if Balon invaded westerlands. What if robb married frey. What if edmure allowed tywin to advance. What if Joffrey survied. What if tommen survied

  • @charmedlilsis1
    @charmedlilsis1 День тому

    The show shouldve devoted an entire season to being a prequel of Robert's Rebellion. They couldve done that to buy time to make the final season better. Plus, it wouldve been interesting to see the events leading up to the rebellion.

  • @Alguém24681
    @Alguém24681 13 годин тому

    So, a couple of things that i thought about not only about this video but in general:
    TL;DR: What if Tywin overthrows the Mad King with Rhaegar; What if the Tyrells didn't side with the crown; Tyrion turns out very different in this timeline
    Couldn't in any of these cases where Tywin stays as Hand he manages to not die with the Starks and somehow overthrow the Mad King? Maybe if Rhaegar didn't run off with Lyanna or at least ran to King's Landing so he was present when everything happened? I think it would be interesting because not only we could have some dialogue and explanation from Rhaegar and the Starks, this doesn't necessarily end the war, but it definetely get's way less "All or Nothing", and now that Tywin basically sides with Rhaegar, the war would change a lot, maybe the rebels don't win at mole town (idk if that the right name) and probably don't win at the trident if that battle even happens. If it happens and in this case Robert dies instead of Rhaegar, given that his father and brother are still alive, maybe Ned could've been convinced to stop the rebellion, given that with Robert dead Rhaegar can explain things (assuming this is like the show where they loved each other etc etc...)
    In both of these videos of different marriages to the Tully sisters, i really don't see why the Tyrells would side with the crown? (maybe i'm just missing some lore) but with the BLAST alliance there's really no hope for the Targaryen's, Lady Olenna would not allow her son to take the losing side (idk if he is the lord paramount at this stage but the point stants that Olenna is too smart for this)
    Also i think that Tyrion is really just kicked to the sidelines here, maybe he is just way too young but given that he is now brother of The Lord of Casterly Rock, couldn't he get a at least decent marriage? Maybe both the last point and the next are just a step too far in this scenario (as in we are getting too deep in the story) but probably Tyrion would turn out quite different in this timeline, without both Tywin and Cersei around to be cruel to him.
    Anyway's, great video as always, keep it up!

  • @jonsouth1545
    @jonsouth1545 День тому +1

    Jamie and Ned become best friends hihihi

  • @SKRRTCOBAIN00
    @SKRRTCOBAIN00 13 годин тому +1

    Would be cool if u consider making a Vid about „What if Dannys Son Lived and grew up to be the Khal of Khals“

  • @pokeflare2111
    @pokeflare2111 День тому +2

    Can you do what if Elia and her children were allowed to go with rhaella and viserys to dragonstone .
    What if Daenerys went to the dance after her death with her 3 dragons
    What if Ned was born a girl

  • @arthurbriand2175
    @arthurbriand2175 День тому +2

    Would Jaime join the Rebellion if that means Cersei will get executed if he betrays the crown?

  • @7dragons7swords
    @7dragons7swords День тому +1

    What if Tywin hired a faceless men to kill Aerys

  • @dragondotell701
    @dragondotell701 День тому +1

    What if Renly supported Stannis in the war of five(now four) kings?

  • @jadedtigerlily18
    @jadedtigerlily18 День тому

    I'd like to see a video on "What would happen if Rhaenyra didn't leave for Dragonstone and stayed in Kings Landing instead?"

  • @arthurbriand2175
    @arthurbriand2175 День тому +2

    Could you do what ifs for Rhaegar taking other noble women after Harrenhal?
    What if he took Cersei ? Ashara ? Catelyn?

    • @alex52043
      @alex52043 20 годин тому

      Tywin cheers if Cersei gets taken, nothing happens for Ashara and canon continues mostly unchanged but with Ned marrying Lysa for Catelyn getting taken.

  • @carl9390
    @carl9390 День тому +1

    What if Walder Frey died before the war of the five kings?

  • @Typhoon-77
    @Typhoon-77 День тому +1

    What if Ned Stark married Cirsei Lannister?

  • @HistoChartalist
    @HistoChartalist День тому

    I liked this What if, I just wonder who Robert would marry now and probably father legitimate children.
    This definitely needs a second part!

  • @AniSwiftTVRecaps
    @AniSwiftTVRecaps День тому

    99% sure cersie slept with a kingsguard or aerys himself especially because she looks like her mother

  • @diosito5534
    @diosito5534 День тому +1

    What if Ned married Ashara Dayne

  • @debamlyabanerjee4067
    @debamlyabanerjee4067 День тому +1

    What if catelyn married walder frey after robbs marriage with talisa

  • @laurabryan6938
    @laurabryan6938 День тому +1

    And this timeline who do you think Robert would have married would he have married one of his mistresses or had his daughter that was in the veil come to court

  • @xx_toasterreturns_xx1166
    @xx_toasterreturns_xx1166 День тому

    What if Robert allowed Ned to bring Jaime to justice after he fled the city?
    What if Cersei never became Queen?

  • @Unseen-sd2co
    @Unseen-sd2co День тому

    What if Ser Barristan and the kings guard followed King Robert's last decree
    What if Tyrion did not kill Tywin

  • @dellavonta187
    @dellavonta187 День тому +1

    No no no we need daeron revenge part 3 lol you just like George

  • @jadenpitt7893
    @jadenpitt7893 7 годин тому

    What if stannis wins the battle of black water because tywin doesn’t arrive to save them, and he kills Cersei, Joffrey, and the kids?

  • @billdean96
    @billdean96 День тому

    really interesting concept nicely done I think
    but what if Visarys had a bastard son before he was married?

  • @bradleyharvey2676
    @bradleyharvey2676 День тому +1

    What if Jaime married Lyanna Stark?

  • @dellavonta187
    @dellavonta187 День тому

    He son would be the red lion lol

  • @alex52043
    @alex52043 20 годин тому

    Is Jaime really bad enough to deserve a Tully girl? This seems a bit too cruel.

  • @sardonically-inclined7645
    @sardonically-inclined7645 День тому +1

    What if Catelyn Married Oberyn?

  • @Mushu-q2t
    @Mushu-q2t День тому

    Part 2 but make it more story based

  • @godemperorofmankind3.091
    @godemperorofmankind3.091 2 дні тому +1

    Please do What If Cersei Lannister was born a boy

    • @ifeeldead463
      @ifeeldead463 День тому +3

      - He'd be probably named Ceasar and he'd be heir while Jaime is free to be kingsguard and Tyrion is stuck managing the sewage. Tho, Jaime might not be a kingsguard here as the purpose of making him KG is to humiliate Tywin with a dwarf heir and hold him hostage. As Jaime is just a second son who has to pray that his older bro kicks the bucket to get anything, ye no kingsguard Jaime
      - Tywin does spend more time with Ceasar but well, dude's still not as smart as Tywin thanks to his ego. Still smarter than Cersei tho. Also, he'd be like a more subdued Joffrey thanks to Tywin being the one to raise him, cruel and egotistic but hides it well and is unfortunately smart.
      - He and Jaime are still close, just not as close as Cersei and Jaime were. Theyre not sexually involved but considering Cersei is a narcissist and in the books, slept with another woman, maybe the twins had done it in the past but more out of curiosity and now its an embarassing memory they dont wanna talk about. Obviously nothing happens, no Joffrey, Myrcella or Tommen
      - He'd be the one married to Lysa and would be at Casterly Rock while Tywin and Jaime are at court. Robert probably marries a Tyrell woman or a Lannister cousin. Bobby B is still yearning for Lyanna tho
      - Lysa and Ceasar do not have a good marriage, especially as they might have trouble conceiving and well, dude is def the kind of guy to blame his wife for having the audacity to have stillbirths and miscarriages. He does love whatever children that comes out of the marriage, albeit in his own narcissitic way. He favors and spoils the kids that look and/or act like him tho while tolerating the ones that look and act like his wife. He and Tywin (if he still lives) would try to have one of his kids wed to one of Robert's to gain more political influence, likely a daughter to Robert's heir, which would be a problem as Robert wants Ned's eldest daughter Sansa to marry his heir (who is thankfully not Joffrey)

  • @EmSwaff2
    @EmSwaff2 День тому

    What if the first, or a later one if you so choose, Blackfyre rebellion was successful?

  • @N3wman2992
    @N3wman2992 День тому

    What if Viseryes didn’t give the greens dragons
    What if Rhaenyra was made hand of the king
    What if Rhaenyra went to rooks rest part 2
    What if daemon had a son part three
    What Viseryes married Alicent and Laena

  • @ghostwritt3r287
    @ghostwritt3r287 15 годин тому

    this would be a more peaceful world for a while... but who would bobby b marry? he still has a duty as the to have a line of succession.

  • @anyaarvidsson3038
    @anyaarvidsson3038 День тому

    Part 2 please

  • @historiareiss5383
    @historiareiss5383 День тому

    can you do what if Ned married Cersei instead of Robert?

  • @The-AmericanPatriot
    @The-AmericanPatriot День тому

    What if Ned Stark marries Cersi Lannister ?

  • @chandlerdoeswhatifs9399
    @chandlerdoeswhatifs9399 День тому

    What if Rhaella survived Daenerys' birth?

  • @Nickmona5
    @Nickmona5 День тому

    What if Jon Arryn Lived a Bit Longer?

  • @martinspacil5100
    @martinspacil5100 День тому

    What if Aerys died in Duskendayle

  • @ArinzaMartinJr
    @ArinzaMartinJr День тому

    What if the hill tribe win in Tyrion and Catalan and Braun died in season 1

  • @simonpierre8283
    @simonpierre8283 День тому

    What if khal drogo invaded westeros with Viserys

  • @sweet1661
    @sweet1661 День тому

    What if Bronn lost the trial by combat in the vale 🙏🏼 I beg you

    • @Hektols
      @Hektols День тому

      Tyrion dies, a furious Jaime murders Ned instead of killing him and an even more furious Robert imprisons and executes Jaime, Tywin rebels against the Throne...

  • @simonpierre8283
    @simonpierre8283 День тому

    What if Aemond killed Dameond. What if Aegon second wasnt posoined

  • @simonpierre8283
    @simonpierre8283 День тому

    What if catleyn never freed jaime

  • @toomuchsauce5599
    @toomuchsauce5599 День тому

    Is this a Jaime stan account? Jaime is still a man, he’d be with Catelyn just fine, not just out of “duty”. You swear he’s this abstinent golden god but thats only his hand, “Golden Hand” to be exact. Also he’s straight and she’s beautiful. For someone who’s up Jaime, he did find her more interesting than Lysa. He got a stiffer for Briene in bath scene and she’s much uglier in the books. Oh and Black Fish would’ve gone with them instead with Lysa to the North.

  • @mappingshaman5280
    @mappingshaman5280 День тому

    What if borros baratheon won the battle of the kingsroad?

  • @ElijahWitherspoon-v9d
    @ElijahWitherspoon-v9d День тому

    What if alicent had slit Rhaenryas wrist instead of scaring her

  • @simonpierre8283
    @simonpierre8283 День тому

    What if Vale joind robb

  • @jamiebaker8017
    @jamiebaker8017 День тому

    Bullshit… ned would’ve already married ashara before Brandon was killed