I finally have my 347 Stroker!!
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- Опубліковано 28 гру 2022
- After 5 weeks of waiting, it's finally here!
302 hydraulic roller block machined to 347
Scat Crankshaft amzn.to/3HIVSRI
Scat Connecting Rods amzn.to/3UZMhbT
Trick Flow "Track Max" Stage 2 Cam (part number 51403002)
Elgin 1.6 Rocker Arms amzn.to/3Q3GiSE
Trick Flow Lifters, part number 21400004
Keith Black 10.5:1 Pistons amzn.to/3FBAc73
Holley 4160 750cfm Carb amzn.to/3v0bxV3
Timing Cover, Aluminum, uses seal that installs from the front (much better design) amzn.to/3V79Yiz
Water Pump, Aluminum amzn.to/3FF0Hse
Moroso Oil Pan amzn.to/3hxg8Lj
Moroso Oil Pickup amzn.to/3WnbYEu
Balanced and ready to go!
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The car is a 1966 Mustang Fastback with a 347 Stroker and T5 transmission.
Shot with GoPro Hero 9 with the Media Mod, edited on Davinci Resolve 17.
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I don't think you spent too much at all for what you got, seems very reasonable! Stoked to hear it and see it in the car!
Thanks!
Nice I can’t wait to hear it running!!
You and me both!
Holy smokes! Such a Beautiful sight! Happy New Years to you Andy!
Happy new year!
Best 64-66 mustang content you’ve saved me so many times on projects!
Awesome, thanks for the support, and good luck with your car!
Really cool! Looking forward to hearing that mean machine roar.
You and me both!
So awesome can’t wait to here it bro
Same here!
Ya I’m so excited for you!!
Thanks!
Congratulations on the new engine. “Let’s light this candle!”🍀
Fingers crossed!
Great video Andy, thank you for sharing the cost it means a lot to me because your videos are complete, not like somebody else's good job.
Thanks 👍
Congrats on the engine build Andy. Good choice on displacement, and you're certainly not too deep into it financially. Can't wait to hear it running. Don't forget in all the excitement to break-in the cam. Keep the videos coming!!
Thanks!
Cool beans heads look amazing thanks for the info on the arp water pump/timing cover 🔩 bolts I have the arp kit hopefully I won't have that issue
Good luck!
Happy for you I bet you can't wait to fire it up. 👍👍👍
Can't wait!
NICE!!!!! We can tell from your intro you're excited to get that bad boy!!! Happy for you man. I can't wait for you to get it in, so I imagine you must be climbing the walls.
Can't wait!
Well done Andy money well spent so enjoy it You have a nice Mustang there
Thanks 👍
Congrats. Very cool. The smile says it all. Nothin’ but a 💰 number, with no regrets.
Classic Mustang 🐎
Have fun 👍🏽
Thanks! They say it's only money, you can't take it with you. :)
Nice I’m eager to see it Running in Your Mustang and Hear the Cam 👌👍
You and me both!
Great video keep it up
Thanks, will do!
Thanks for doing this! I’m replacing the y-block on my F100, and torn between buying or building an sbf.
This video answered many of the questions I was having.
Awesome, glad I could help. Good luck!
Andy, that engine is a work of art! That engine in your Mustang fastback is the perfect combination. Congrats!
Thanks 👍
Sweet.....game changer.
Agreed. :)
Thanks for giving us the breakdown. I'm interested in putting a rebuild 351w in my 1966 Mustang.
No problem! :)
You bought yourself a masterpiece of machinery! I would do the same on my car. Someone that has over 10 years experience with these engines knows most of the time what they are doing.
I hope you’ll have a lot of fun and save miles with it!
Thanks!
Andy, I really like what you do with those old mustangs. I Built and painted two 1964-1/2, and two 1966 mustangs with my dad and brother growing up in the 90’s. Best time of my life learning from our dad how to complete the whole car from scratch. Me and my brother still have our cars and I’m in a position this year to do that 347 upgrade myself along with the T-5 transmission and Wilwood disc brakes. I love my car the way it is too but those upgrades really do add great power as well as stopping power and control. I enjoy watching your videos. Keep up the good work for all of us who still have these stallions. Ive been taking notes on what I need to do for each project you post. Many thanks my friend.
Awesome, thanks for the support and feedback. Good luck with your build! :)
That's a nice motor Andy! You could have gotten a crate 347 a little cheaper but then it would be full of mystery parts. This way you know exactly what you have. I can hardly wait to hear it running.
I can't wait either!! :)
As a 9 quart oil pan owner, you made the right choice. With the high volume pump I have to wait for days for the pressure to come down when I warm it up.
Yeah, I like having a little buffer for the motor's blood. :)
I have the same build. Just with the eagle rotating assembly and trickflow heads. Full roller motor 465 hp
465 would be awesome, especially in these light cars. :)
I think it is Nice! The more you know the more you want the more you spend.
Truth. :)
That is one Dead Balls sexy Christmas present you got there pal... My project very similar to yours.... I have my eye on a 347 by ATK, with about 400 or so HP.. I've got a ways to go yet before that part.. It's fun watching your journey... Can't wait to see it running !!!! Good luck...
Thanks! Your new motor will be awesome too, hopefully you won't break anything like I'm I will. My friend always tells me I've got to "let the genie out of the bottle". If I can figure out how to get him to pay for the broken parts, I'll let the genie out all day! :)
Hey Andy!!! Congratulations on the new build! I had my 68 302 built up to a 347 short block by my local engine builder too!! I add AFR enforcers 185cc, moroso 7qt oil pan, I reused my street cam (I forgot what I put in 17 years ago), oil pump, timing set, vintage performer manifold, lifters… they all spec’d good!…new custom length pushrods.. I’m running the original 500cfm edelbrock but plan on an EFI upgrade this coming season! Also a Malwood hydraulic clutch instead of the original mechanical!
Good luck installing it! Keep us informed on the progress!
Thanks for the support. :)
Congrats, Andy! I'm pumped to see the swap and hear how she sounds. I'm at the tail end of a swap on my 289/C4 68 coupe - it's a 427 Windsor stroker with a TKX. The swap and build has been underway for about a year, and I can't wait to get her on the road again.
Right on! That TKX will be a nice upgrade for the power you'll make. I'd prefer to have that trans or a T56, but the budget could only afford the T5. Maybe down the road I can upgrade, or maybe I'll be forced to upgrade when I shred the gears doing unnecessary burnouts. :)
@@AndyKruseChannel re: “maybe I’ll be forced to upgrade” - I wish you all the luck in the new year, sir! Keep making these kickass vids, love every time I see a new one drop. I’ll be starting on my interior soon, new ground for me to cover, wish me luck!
Congrats! I think the price is not that expensive. I'm anxious to see what you do to the steering when you drop it in. I kept my stock 65 mustang steering linkages and I had an issue with it rubbing a bit on the bottom of the 7 quart oil pan. Love the videos and it's going to be a fun journey.
Thanks 👍
That’s an awesome build Andy!!! You definitely can’t go wrong with a Scat bottom end! I would do the same. Also, I would use the AFR Renegade heads! What oil is he recommending to use in this? What distributor? I guess you’re saving that for the next video, you were just too excited and I don’t blame you! Congratulations on a great motor and Happy New Year Andy! 🏆🏁
Thanks. Most of that stuff is in the description below. :)
I spent about the same amount this past summer rebuilding my 289 in my Fastback. I kept the 289, had it machined, bored and essentially did the same where I upgraded almost everything to include aluminum heads, cam, pistons and rods. The car screams now so I can only imagine having over 50 more CI on a roller block. One thing I'd recommend is a billet MSD ready to run distributor. It was pricey but it's an important piece to maximize power. Enjoy the car!
I'll keep that distro in mind. :)
Money well spent!
Thanks :)
Put a double pumper on that mother Andy. She will be an absolute animal. You’ve got a manual… the car isn’t heavy, and you have good rear gears. I was running a Mercury Meteor with a 289 through a c4 automatic and 4:11 gears. I switched from a well tuned vacuum secondary to a double pumper and I couldn’t believe the difference. Love the build, and your content.
This is a tough one, half the internet says manual secondaries, the other half says vacuum. :)
Great build, you are going to love those 400+ ponies. The intake might be a hinderance for those awesome heads and exhaust I think you are using. Weiand stealth or eddy RPM should flow a lot better. Also, might want to trim up those timing cover gasket hangovers for looks.
Yeah, I left a little on the table for future upgrades. :)
"more expensive than I thought it would be" every car guy should just get that tattooed on his arm. after your comment about crate engines I looked it up, and yeah, you could have saved a couple grand going that route. but this way you have a hand built engine for your car, and you know who built it if there are ever any issues. im stoked for you.
Don't tempt me. :)
my 347 has GT40P Heads and Big oil pan... Holley 600cfm and redlines at 7500 rpm... only about 375-400hp and 350-375ftlbs of torque.. and yes it is way more than budget... parts are all about 50 to 100 percent more than 3 years ago... and highly recommend a BIG radiator... worth it.
I am in at about 10k.
$10K? I'm starting to feel a bit better. :)
Congratulations on the motor I have a very similar setup. I have the 750 Holley this is definitely the way to go. As for the oil pan had the same one that came on your motor and I swapped it out for Scott Drake Oil Pan C5ZZ-6675-22-K 6 quart baffled. The 7 quart just hung down too low for my taste.
Best of luck putting it together
Thanks for the tip on the oil pan! :)
i just spent 8500 Canadian on our 289 A code engine, got it balanced with all new parts. holley fuel pump and new Edlebrock water pump, bigger cam and springs, etc except for rods and crank. so your 8500 us is a really good deal.
Congrats on your new motor! :)
LMR makes the correct bolt kit for the water pump and timing chain cover bolts.
Good to know. :)
Once you hook up that T5 will be screaming for mercy
Only if I spend my afternoons doing 5k clutch drops. But at that point it'll be a coin flip whether the T5 or the 8" rear goes out first. :)
I run the Autolite APP3924 Double Platinum
With similar heads. Nice motor. Im doing a 1987 302 in a 1965 mustang. Same valve size, similar heads and 30 over. Good luck 👍
Very cool, good luck with your motor!
I ended up using NGK 7177 Iridium on my engine build, other plugs didn’t work well, weren’t combusting the whole fuel mixture correctly
I'm seeing this one for the first time.
What I see is a guy building his dream. Don't worry about the money as that will come in time. I'm 59 years old and have enjoyed my 68 for almost 10 years, total invested not including the purchase of the car is almost 11K. I can tell you it's worth every penny.
Go for it Andy !!!
Thanks!!
Yeah, I am getting there, but darn it this hobby is expensive. :)
Looks Awesome 🚗🐎🔧👊🇺🇸💪
Thanks 👍
thats a nice snowblower haha
It does great, starts up every year without any fuss. :)
Let’s put a turbo on that snow blower! Happy Holidays
Don't tempt me! :)
Awesome! Not sure but I feel like this is almost the same setup I just watched on powernation “engine power” little black and blue project… I like this channel!
This is a common engine recipe for the 347, so it’s possible there are some similarities. 🙂
Yeah I know, I’ve just been researching a coupe to fast back conversion, got off on a 302 engine build videos, then I saw your videos… great work by the way!!…. Love that everything you’re doing is in a garage on jack stands!!…. Hope you rebuild the 289 yourself and video it!! Love what you do!
Good choice on the Holley 750CFM. Vacuum secondaries is an interesting choice. I guess it really depends on what you want to do with it. It wouldn't be my choice with that combination of a TFS Track Max + AFR 185s. Honestly, not a bad price for what you are getting for an engine! Congrats on the build and I can't wait to hear it!
Thanks!
I've read both sides of the story when it comes to the secondaries, for every good reason why to get one over the other, I find a good rebuttal not to get it. In the end, I went with what my engine builder recommended. :)
@@AndyKruseChannel Are you thinking of a RPM Air Gap which is good for 6500rpm as you have a 6800 rpm limit.
@@gen1c8rs88 Now that you mention it I remember Andy buying a new intake but I don't remember if it was a Performer RPM or a Performer. I believe the Performer RPM has the same RPM range as the Air Gap.
all i can say is "woooooooooooooooooooooooooow" cant wait to hear it breath
Me too!
That sum is not bad for such a quality parts engine and labor. Try to build same kind of engine here in Finland and you can double the price 😢😖 Very nice engine, would be my dream to have same on my ‘66 HT.
Thanks for the support! If I was in the same boat as you, I'd have to build it myself (I almost did). This price is more than I told the Boss it would be, now I have to make it up to her. I've got a few ideas. ;)
Fuuuck true car guy definitely way over budget but you will be happy for sure if it all works out well. Can’t wait till I save up to do the same. Still debating a normal 302 mild cam or full stroker but that’s future me problem
Full build. :)
Awsome
Thanks!
Yes, I would have thought $9K. You did good.
Thanks!
Definitely hold on to that 289 block. Something that was pointed out to me by the Machinists I work with is that the 289/early 302 blocks do not have the issues with cracking down the middle that the 85 and later 302 blocks have. There's no exact number at what the horsepower the later 302s can handle, from what I've heard and read it is between 500 to 600. The vast majority of us are not building motors to put down 500 horsepower. Just thought I'd share that with you although I'm pretty sure you knew this. I mean come on you're "The Andy Kruse", . I'm only 5 minutes in and have three comments on this video 😆. Is it weird I'm excited for you 🤣.
I've got the 289 sitting on the side for now, can't decide if I should build it for another project or or build it and sell it (I need the money right now). :)
Bada$$ motor Andy! Looking forward to hearing/seeing that thing fired up. Hopefully you aren’t on crutches in your next video after your wife sees this video and sees the price tag 😂😂😂
Fingers are crossed. :)
Nah, 8k is pretty respectable for a lot of the boutique 347's available online. Its a plus knowing the guy who built it. Nice motor, man. 👍
Thanks! :)
Engine freshly built that cost lot of money, handed back to customer without a wood crate, base to stability during the road trip... not even a plastic cover 😮
Yeah, we like it Raw here in the PNW! :)
You did good with the scat crank.
That's cheap. I would do stainless headers it will save your engine from cylenders from scratches and valve seats from pitting.
The rust from steel headers flow backwards as far as the bottom of your throttle blades on your carb.
At start up and idle.
Stainless will stop this, no rust.
Thanks, but it sounds like you need to watch a few more of my videos. 🙂
@@AndyKruseChannel yes I do, I just noticed you have more on the build.
Sweet looking engine Andy. What was the reason for the vacuum secondaries? Is he claiming compatability with camshaft/compression? Usually, if manual transmission, then mechanical secondaries for peak performance. If it was me, looking at your numbers, I would be tempted to go with a Holley dual feed double pumper, mechanical secondaries, 650 or 700 cfm model. But that is because you are going with a manual transmission. Vacuum secondaries will save a little fuel, maybe in street conditions and depending on camshaft/compression radicality, which with the price of fuel is something to consider. Looking good. This is getting exciting. Keep going brother!
He started to explain it, but it was over my head. I see both sides of the conversation online, and no one has a solid answer. Every good answer is met with a good rebuttal. I'm just trusting my engine builder on this one. :)
You're always gonna get those downer comments but this setup is gonna be so cool in that old fastback! I'm working on swapping my 6 cylinder 67 coupe to a 302. I noticed you're in Washington and I'm curious what machine shop you went with. There's only one old timer where I'm at and he's got a wait-list.
Yeah, thick skin is a requirement if you want to put your project out for the world to see.
My engine builder has a wait list too, I got on the list back in September to get the motor built in November, to ensure I'd get the motor back before the end of the year. :)
Hi Andy! Engine looks like fine jewelery. Going with a 750 Then Andy? May I suggest the Holley # O-80508S ! 4160C 750CFM Universal polish. Elect. choke, Vacuum Secondaries, Single pumper, dual gas line inlets. Great Carb! You can jet it down it need be. I have this same new one on my 67 429/460 cobra jet Mustang. I run an RPM performer single plane intake. Air Gap will give you about 3 more HP. Thanks for sharing Andy. Happy New Year! Cheers from Motown/Dearborn.
Carb is already purchased, but thank you for the heads up. :)
@@AndyKruseChannel Cool, you will love it.
Sweet! I think you might have overpaid about $1,000 or so but that's just how it goes especially with the economy the way it is these days plus the machine work and assembly! If it's slightly over budget then it's usually done right LOL
I don't live in a big city, so the price I pay is likely higher compared to places where competition drives a bit of the price. :)
Information is on point as always. im building a 289 for a 66 coupe in the UK and im going to be building something similar but aiming for about 350 as i have stock auto transmission.
What else have you got planned that i can steal ideas from? :)
Thanks! 350 is still a great number for these light cars.
Not ready to spill the future plans, yet. :)
Cant decide if i should rebuild 302 or buy a crate engine. Sure seems like crate engine would be less headaches in long run...
You may be able to find someone to build your 302 into a monster for less than the cost of a crate engine, like I did, but it comes at the cost of time. You could buy a crate engine today and have it in your car by next week, but getting your engine built could take a month or more. 🙂
Pay now or pay later. Nice build, very similar to what built. What rockers and lifters did you go with. I’m curious what motor mounts your gonna run. Great work keep it going.
Parts list in description, stock motor mounts for now.
JP, sorry brotha, I thought I put the rockers in the parts list. I updated it now, but just to let you know, I have Elgin 1.6 Rockers, part number SSR-2889RS. Lifters are Trick Flow, part number TFS-21400004.
I cant tell with the black paint, did your engine builder tap, thread and plug the original oil dipstick location?
The dip stick location on the rear driver's side of the block is blocked off. The dip stick location in the oil pan is blocked off. I'm going to stick with the location in the timing cover for now. :)
At some point I would like to do a similar swap from my 260 that I rebuilt in the early 90's. If you have not changed the engine mounts yet I would do that next! I broke 1 very shortly after the rebuild. Is your engine guy on the West side or East side of WA? Enjoy all that power when the weather lets ya!
Engine builder is on the East side. :)
I'm running a 650 AVS2 with a decent cam, port and polish factory heads with the usual upgrades your 347 will be fine with a 750
That's good to here, but there are some people out there that need to tell me how wrong this build is. :)
Trust your machinist, consider the Air Gap upgrade.
Yeah, that air-gap will likely be in the future, we'll see. :)
Hi Andy, Awesome and beautiful engine. Question; How much is the total weight difference in Kilos ( KG) on this new Engine compared to the" Orginal Cast Iron Engine" ??? Thanks OLE : )
Thanks!
I don't know that one, but I'd say it's lighter since the heads are now aluminum vs cast iron. I also have that lighter aluminum intake manifold and water pump. :)
Blue-Print -En-gines cost $8000 306 or 347 420hp
Good to know.
What were the machine work costs and who did it? I'm in Washington also a d there aren't a lot of shops available anymore.
My paperwork does not break down the machine and assembly costs vs the parts cost. Keeping in mind that I had my builder supply some additional parts not typically mentioned in the build (like an oil pump, gasket set, rings, main bolts, etc), he charged me $4400 plus tax.
If it makes you feel better I bet you could spend double that building that engine in the UK when you add shipping and taxes!
Honestly, that helps. I may have over paid, I have have gotten a good deal, but in the end I got what I wanted at a price I can live with. :)
Did your builder hot break it in or are you going to have to do all those break in procedures?
Yes, all I have to do is fire it up. Granted it's more complicated than that, but he said everything is ready to go driving. :)
@@AndyKruseChannel that’s perfect excited to see your first start up!
good for you looking to do the same i have a 66 fastback as well. fair price whos the builder and anyway i can contact him to build same.
This engine would be a great addition to your Fastback. My email is on my contact page, I can share details about the builder there.
That’s a good looking motor?
Thanks!
374w cid
What?
@@AndyKruseChannel WoT is the difference.
Andy who did you use to build the motor
Local engine shop.
You in Spokane
Cassell.
where did you buy the pcv valve?
Local parts store, part number V156, it was about $2.
@@AndyKruseChannel
i'm gonna order a bunch of parts at summit and can only find a 30 dollar one. i can order it at summit for 5 dollar but it has no messurements on the specification of summits page
@@chevroletbelair1 The summit unit (part number SMP-V156) is what you're looking for if you want to buy it from them.
@@AndyKruseChannel
thanks Andy , its a difference of 25 euro
what cam specs do you have and what brand and type?
@@chevroletbelair1 The cam is the Trick Flow Track Max, part number 51403002.
Are you worried the T-5 won’t last behind that motor?
It will last as long as I don't do 5k clutch drops. Even doing some spirited driving this trans will be fine, it's just when you throw over 300 ftlbs at it in a split second is when parts will begin to break. We can say the same thing for that 8" rear. I don't know how many burnouts I can get out of this setup before she breaks, but the bright side would mean it's time for an upgrade. :)
@@AndyKruseChannel Did your builder dyno the engine? I bet it’s making 300lb/ft at way less than 5k. And it’s easy to say you’ll take it easy now because your right foot hasn’t tasted all that nastiness under the hood yet. At least for you more broken parts just means more content. 😜
@@swooshdave No, he was not able to dyno this motor, but this is a replica of the same 347 he's been building for years and he know what it can do.
True, 300 ftlbs will come on way before 5k, but couple the TQ numbers and the RPMs at 5k and I'll have a box full of 1st gear teeth in no time. And yes, more broken parts means more content, but I'm still working off this build with the Boss, she's not going to let me have more parts anytime soon. :)
@@AndyKruseChannel Just remember that a Toploader is cheaper than a TKO… 😁
Only thing I see wrong is “It ain’t got no gas in it. Mmhmmm”
I think of the simplest things first.
Well, on camera I do, but when the camera is off I'm scratching my head trying to find out why it won't start. :)
8500 is not a little bit of money, that said you won't need another engine ever
You didn't keep your promise about commenting. :)
I hope not, getting the boss to approve this build was a chore, I can't imagine trying to convince her I need to do it again. :)
@@AndyKruseChannel I couldn't help myself 😆 I know exactly where your coming from, every so often I'll get called into the office and the boss has a invoice of the parts I ordered. I swear she audits me😄
Rip to Andy if his wife watches this.
Watches what? 😜
Hey again Andy, I am gonna send a few pic to your email of this carb if that is ok with you. Pics will be virus free of course.. Thanks Bob
Ok
Who built this beast?
A local engine shop.
Share engine builder contact info?
Not at this time. :)
Okay last comment on this video I promise. I may need to go back and watch some of your older videos, maybe I just never noticed before but,,,, dude,,, you look like you could pick that motor up with one arm and put it in. If you're New Year's resolution is to lift weights I feel sorry for them weights.
Haha, it's all in the fancy editing. :)
Spent all that money and didn’t go with EFI. 🤦🏻
I was hoping you were sending the EFI, but it never showed up. I guess I'll have to stick with the Carb for now. :)
Your engine builder knows. You can put a domiinator on that motor or smaller displacements as well. Use the most cfm you can afford.
I have a 67 Fadtback and I spent waaaay more. Billet scat crankshaft to start. Same type of oil pan but Milodon. Go road racing and then that pan is worth every penny. I drive my car but dont push it to win so go have fun. 2006 Boss 302 block, h-beams, titanium valves in John Kasse canted valve heads. Novi 1500 supercharge keeps it breathing into the 8000 rpm redline. Sickness. And then my buddy build his 10K reving sb chevy...extra sickness. Lol
I'd like to build one that can Rev to the moon, I've got a spare blocking sitting out back..... :)
@AndyKruseChannel and, you don't need a billet crank. I just really wanted one! Scat brand billet, internal balance. Makes me smile all the time. Happy motoring days and nights!
Did you put a girdle on the mains? Or is it a 4 bolt main block?
Two bolt main, no girdle. I talked about it with my engine builder, and he said that with my planned redline, the girdle wasn't really going to do much. It won't hurt anything either, but he wasn't concerned so I wasn't. This engine has been amazing so far, it's an animal compared to that tired 289 I pulled. :)
6 to 8k is about right for a 347 long block depending on if you got a dart block or not.
Yeah, it's one of those things where prices can vary, especially when you don't live in a big city where there's more competition to help those prices out. :)