I've seen people complaining about how they left humanity for the same reason as the eternals, but I think they're missing that they say they left because humanity abandoned them. I like how their reasoning plays into the idea that the gods are lazy and arrogant.
@@WarAlex16 I can’t see Kang being involved,not everything is Kang just like not everything was Thanos in the last saga. Humanity abandoned the “Egyptian” gods because they simply don’t believe in them anymore,ask someone today if they think they’ll meet Anubis if they die.
@@Oraculo791 this is exactly it, lol. At least so far, it seems like most of the gods don't do anything for humanity literally because they're salty that we don't follow their religions anymore.
Like American Gods and DC comics Egyptian and Norse, Greek Deities become Old Gods like forgotten and abandoned by their own worshippers. Rise of New Gods control technology and new schools
I love the show so far, but the meeting with the gods just felt lazy. Arthur Harrow is Khonshu's former avatar and starts a fairly good size cult to worship Ammit. He has a staff full of Ammit's power. Khonshu makes a grand gesture to point out that his former, pissed off avatar is in the desert to find Amit. It's hard to believe that none of these gods have any power to sense bullshit. They could have shortened the scene to: Marc/Khonshu: Arthur found the scarab and is about to release Ammit! Arthur: Khonshu is a dick and Marc is weird. Gods: We agree. Khonshu is a dick and Marc is really weird. Now leave.
I completely agreed. Not only that, but even the set for that scene and the lack of CGI (only went as far as glowing eyes) felt lazy as well. The set was very dark lit, and just threw some Egyptian statues and put it at the base of a pyramid and called it good. I wish they would’ve put it in a secret spooky crypt of a pyramid or something like that. Seemed like they just said “good enough” and went with it. I felt that immediately while watching that scene. Also yes, the discussion was cut so short and didn’t even hear Khonshu or Marc out at all. There was so much more that could’ve been said. Like “look at the tattoo on his arm!” Or “look at his staff!” Would’ve gone a long way. Maybe the gods are conspiring against Khonshu. I guess that would make the most sense.
The whole don't meddle thing made me think of Eternals straight away. Eternals are now going to start medelling again, Thor and his Asgard crew are now literally integrated onto earth, and gonna get Jane as a bit of an avatar of Thor. Black Panther and Wakanda has now opened up to the rest of the world. It wouldn't surprise me if Shang chi is some sort of avatar for a chinese god with those rings. This is all leading to some Gods showdown. I wonder if like wayyyyyy in the past the main gods got together and made a deal with each other to stop medelling/squabbling over ruling man. So when Loki tried to rule earth, Odin was like FFS the pact was broken so kinda why he was super angry? Just a theory tho.
I thought the introduction of the other God's was rather messy. However, if they introduced them not only to further the plot in Moon Knight but to die at the hands of Gorr as well.... I would love that.
I would lose my sh*t if Christian Bale showed up as Gorr at the end of Moon Knight like how Jonathan Majors showed up at the end of Loki. I think we need that segue into Thor Love & Thunder since we’ve seen absolutely nothing about it so far.
If only any of phase 4 marvel was trying to do any conective tissue at all.. I cant express how played out I feel the whole "this show is going to change the entire fabric of the mcu moving forward" line that we get from MCUtubers seems to feel. I don't have much faith anything will be as deep/connective as we long for it to be anymore
Asgardians are aliens in the MCU, the Egytpian gods come from the Overvoid aka Celestial Heliopolis, the origins of the Celestials are unknown, and we are seeing Greek gods in love and thunder ( Ares was also teased in Ragnarok)
I’m pretty sure they retcon that. Can use odin said they were aliens in Thor 1 now there gods in Thor 3. Thor was always a god. He just qualify has a alien cause he’s not from planet earth
Think youre missing the clue right in front of your face Ryan. Arthur harrow isn't really the avatar of ammit. He's the avatar of Anubis. He's trying to bring ammit back, so I doubt he would give up his own power if he was ammits avatar. Anubis was the one with a summonable jackal army that would weigh people's souls against a feather on the scales and if they weren't lighter than the feather they would be fed to ammit. Which makes me think harrow is Anubis's avatar in league with ammit using one of ammits artifacts. Similar to how khonshu and Hathor have a history together in Egyptian mythology because they are both gods of the sky(life), kind of like how Anubis and ammit are both gods of earth(death.)
@@ColorMeConfused29 they never say who harrows avatar actually is. It's just heavily implied that's it's ammit. But I think that's for a bait and switch at the end when they reveal he's in league with ammit and the scales of life and death are no longer held by a fair unbais entity. And when Thanos snapped most of the people away ammit was fixing to eat them all. But I'm guessing he's not happy about hulk snapping a bunch of souls outta his tummy making him hungry as fuck. I think that's why ammit wants to be resurrected so badly because he feels cheated out of his "soul food."
@@Playpumaa65 Haha I also like that Marvel uses the (valid) spelling Seth instead of Set. Makes him sound like a suburban high school bully. Just a rude dude with an attitude.
Gorr is probably gonna cut the gods down to size. Remember the Atlanteans worship Poseidon, brother of zeus and Namor is the main villain of Black Panther 2.
Naw he ain’t takin the Egypt gods, there in there own dimension to where only they can get too. Only if they decide to intervene and help out would they have trouble with him!!
Yeah they definatrly introduce greek gods but before black panther there is thor love and thynder so i dont know maybe in black panther 2 there will be introduced poseidon not every greek gods
This video was super informative and entertaining. Like usual, Ryan hits these right out of the park. My biggest question to all of this is, if the Pantheon of Egyptian gods turned there backs on humanity and no longer meddle in the lives of mere mortals, then why do they still feel the need to select human avatars when they don’t really do anything? My other question is, if Gorr the God Butcher is going to be the main antagonist/ villain of Thor Love and Thunder, then that means we will most likely see him wield the Necrosword which was forged by Knull the God of the Symbiotes and Exolons. Does that mean Knull is apart of the MCU and will we be seeing him at some point in a future MCU film?
@@mpls1982 So if they only select human avatars for the simply means of making sure not one god over steps there boundaries within the realm we call Earth, then I guess you pretty much answered my question. I’m assuming we’ll have to wait and see what happens when one of the avatars goes above and beyond with what they’re allowed to do. For example, Arthur Harrow’s deception and insurrection to the Enead and his quest to free Amit from her tomb.
Wandavision is about the reality. Falcon and the winter soldier is about power. Loki is about time. Hawkeye is about soul. Moonknight is about mind. All there is left is space
I think your breakdowns are the best on UA-cam now. Newrockstars used to be up there but you’ve taken the cake for sure. This one is an the perfect example of a well thought out theory that I’m sure many people hopes is true because it would be incredible to explore. Newrockstars is over there taking about how Khonsu turned the world back in time 2000 years which obviously didn’t happen.
If Ammiut is imprisoned in stone, and Harrow still is able to use her powers for like 10 different things as we have so far seen, then why is marc not able to summon the suit and heal his gun shots?
if you read the comics it can be easily rectified. All Khonshu needs to do is put a different star in the place of the ones that went supernova. He does this using his main power which is called lunar kinesis. It allows him to shift and move any cosmic body to his will including stars, moons, and planets.
I just had a thought, what if other pantheons like the Asgard or the Ennead fed off the energies given by intelligent life meant for the gestating Celestial? Basically, by worshiping them, humans weren’t feeding the Celestial, but the Pantheons had to be careful not to feed too greedily lest they find themselves at the receiving end of the Eternals or worse, Arishem’s wrath.
I think that the reason why Khonshu is trying soo hard not to let Amit out could be that both of them went against the other gods...maybe they were together or something...and he finds out Amits intention to betray even Khonshu and punish the innocent...and then when the other gods cage Amit, i think Khonshu still had some love left for her and maybe saved her from being completely banished and find her a respectful place, maybe that's why he remembers that night...and i think he fears the worse of her return
The panther goddess is definitely the black panthers avatar and I also believe that these Egyptian gods give gifts to their avatars to help them think about it Harro has the cane the black panther has the heart shaped herb and konshu and Mark Spector has the moonlight costume so it’s obvious that the black panther is indeed the avatar two bast and bast definitely gave him or them the heart shape Herb as a gift just like Herro has the cane Konshu and Mark Spector has the moonlight costume as a gift
I’m pretty sure the group we saw were five avatars… Isis, Osiris, Horus, Hathor and Tefnut. She didn’t talk as much, but at the end you’ll see her, when they did the imprisonment of Konshu.
What if they stepped back from humanity because they realised the race itself was doomed to inevitably perish when the celestial growing within the planet would eventually be born?
I’d like to think that Odin knew about Earth will eventually get destroyed & he doesn’t want to battle with Celestials. Maybe Odin’s father negotiated with Celestials & that’s how Asgard is not really a planet. He didn’t like when Thor brought Jane to Asgard. Asgardians are pretty much protectors of nine realms so growing intellectual beings are the reason Celestials can be born. Egyptian gods also probably aware of this too.
I think the prison type place we see in the trailer will be in Marks head and khonshu helped Mark to imprison Steven and Jake so that they wouldn’t interfere. Anyone else think the same?
5:27 In the comics, Sekhmet and Bast are Khonshu’s siblings. 6:46 Sadly, they eventually divorced. 12:00 Gilgamesh actually mentioned helping Odin fight the Frost Giants in Tønsberg, Norway.
I've been thoroughly enjoying Moon Knight. It feels fresh and new, yet addicting like the avengers was. I watched all the shows after End game like Loki, Hawkeye and Wanda Vision and it just felt to much like grasping at straws in an attempt to keep milking the Avengers. Moon Knight doesnt feel like that at all. 😁
I love mythologic stories and drawings. Wrote lots of things about them. And when I saw Ennead in Marvel, I was happy. Now, I tend to think It may be very interesting to see if they add some gods from the mythologies of Turkic, Mayan/Aztec/Incan, Slavic, Indian, and Japonic. They have also really cool goods and stories with deeply detailed backgrounds. For example, In Turkic mythology, there's a legend called "Grey Wolf legend". """The legend tells of a young boy who survived a raid in his village. A she-wolf finds the injured child and nurses him back to health. He subsequently impregnates the wolf which then gives birth to ten half-wolf, half-human boys. One of these, Ashina/Asena, becomes their leader and establishes the Ashina clan which ruled the Göktürks and other Turkic nomadic empires.""" So, in MCU, we can see them for background on how the first werewolves were created in the world with the consequence tied with some the deities. Because there is a series called "Werewolf by Night" and it'd be a logical and reasonable choice to tie them to some different higher powers. Or the Mayan/Aztec/Incan side, there is a "Quetzalcoatl" which is also a very colorful one that even may tie with Chinese dragons as we saw Shang Chi.
Harrow didn't actually lie at the trial, he just omitted certain facts that would have proven his guilt. He tricked them by only saying things that were technically true.
So if I’m correct about mythology.....Anubis would bring a soul into the underworld. And the heart of the soul would be weighed in balance to a feather that was carried by Anubis. If the soul was exceptionally evil or they lived a bad life the souls heart would be eaten by Ammit who was said to look like a dog alligator cross
From long after the show aired, looking back on these videos makes me intrigued that we could pull so much out of the clues they left for us that they actually didn't end up using to amount to anything. The set design guys are really good at their jobs, but lore like this could have made the show so much more interesting if they had actually included it. But hey, maybe season 2...
I love that it’s kevin bacon and during infinity war whats her face from guardians asks about him being on the avengers and thor says “he might be on the team…”
In noticing the missing gods and then seeing the statues in the credits that are like Khonshu's, I thought perhaps they were also imprisoned for one reason or another?
Right!! I was wondering this the whole time Harrow was speaking to them. Not only that, they can sense/see the sky manipulated, but not 40-50 people digging up a banished God in Egpyt lol.
Wait, wait, wait...Question. All of the other gods possessed their avatars in the chamber to speak to Khonshu, right? Why wasn't Harrow taken over by his god?
best part of world building is the bridges that connect different parts (Dr. Strange 2 is going to be fantastic) and than (Love and Thunder) and heck we still have got the Demon stuff to explore
It’s like I’m watching death note (not the entire show of course) with the way they have a god like beings that they can only see and are the ones talking to them. It’s pretty dope to think about.
During the credits there are 13 statues of gods. Very similar form then Khonshu "prison" statue. Those are probably previously imprisoned gods. Among thet 13 statue there's my favorite snake god from Stargate SG-1 Apophis.
Konshu in comics is an elder god which is far stronger than other Egyptian gods as he only impersonated as an Egypt god when in actuality he's an elder god
I pointed it out in one of my previous comments to look after the books Steven was reading … did u „find it out“ by yourself or did I read some comments from your beloved community ;) ?! Thanks for the summary, I’ve watched it a 3rd time today with my wife
I've only seen the fist clip of this video and it reminded me that there were 2 less gods than before, from 9 to 7 to know 5 in that chamber scene. 2 more must've been "fired" too lol
It feels a bit like they are setting up Mark’s “ex” wife to be the next avatar of Hathor. This would explain the whole “he used to like her music” thing.
I more likely to think that the Egyptian Gods has stopped being worshipped since the clash between the Abrahamic and the Egyptian religion. Such as the time of Moses.
Now that we have avatars and gods in the MCU, can we expect Tanaraq and Sasquatch to show up? I would be stoked if they did Department H and Alpha Flight before they begin the X-men. It would be a cool entrance into X-men.
Kang and Apocalypse aren't the only supervillains with connections to ancient Egypt. Don't forget Anath-Na Mut and Meryet Karim (the Sphinx and the Sphinx).
Look again at scene in Episode 2 Summon the Suit when Steven is being fired. There is one of those little stone Gods on the desk. I'll predict those recommended wonderful doctors turn out to be Gods other celestial help. The HR rep ends by telling Steven he's not alone. Which is also easter eggish as we know Steven is at this point not aware that he is at least 3 people. So lets see if Mr HR reappears as some type of help.
I think they stepped back due to the Pharaohs gaining prominence in Egypt. And then I think some of the gods are missing because of Gorr. Like Ra is the head of the ennead, maybe Gorr sought him and killed him. It be interesting to see the Norse, Greek and Egyptian gods all interact.
@@Jmaul85 I agree, since their eyes glow and they shift from host to god like the Goa'uld I am waiting for a stargate and Jack O Nell to show up with some snarky line.
I have a random question. When told what Narrow was doing for Ammit, judging people before they committed their crime, does anyone else see the parallel between what they are doing and what Hydra wanted to do with Project Insight? Eliminating threats before they happened.
Some people are throwing around Rama Tut/Kang or Apocalypse as the reason... Your theory of alien meddling works a lot better with the Sphinx and the Ka Stone in there as well.
With Egyptian gods entering the scene, I hope the next major villain is the pharaoh Akhenaten, he was badass in the comics and it took pretty much everyone to defeat him.
The release of Ammit will renew faith in the Egyptian Gods, giving them back their power via worship of the masses and allowing them to leave the Overvoid. Osiris is in league with Harrow.
My guess is that the great Rift between God and Man turns out to be the Amarma Heresies. Apparently a name on the scarab translates to Amenhotep. The fourth Pharoah named Amenhotep changed his name to Akenaten, and changed the whole religious structure to a monotheistic worship of the sun god Aten. The whole change did not even last until his son took over. The Pharoah we know today as King Tut.
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Is the actor who played Hathor's avatar a voice actor? I feel like I recognize her voice from a video game.
Yes, are you in touch with your feminiminy? 6:00
Great stuff thanks
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Can't wait to see the Egyptian gods Winged Dragon of Ra, Slifer the Sky Dragon, and Obelisk the Tormentor.
It'll be even better if we can get Horakhty, the creator God of Light
Your comment is too OP. Save some power for the rest of us dawg.
Or the moment where Layla reveals she has the ka of the Blue-Eyes White Dragon
Turns out moon knight was a spirit of a long dead pharaoh trapped in a puzzle
lmaooo this is a underrated comment
I've seen people complaining about how they left humanity for the same reason as the eternals, but I think they're missing that they say they left because humanity abandoned them. I like how their reasoning plays into the idea that the gods are lazy and arrogant.
Humanity was played by the dark forces
Or Kang somehow interfered.
@@WarAlex16 I can’t see Kang being involved,not everything is Kang just like not everything was Thanos in the last saga.
Humanity abandoned the “Egyptian” gods because they simply don’t believe in them anymore,ask someone today if they think they’ll meet Anubis if they die.
@@Oraculo791 this is exactly it, lol. At least so far, it seems like most of the gods don't do anything for humanity literally because they're salty that we don't follow their religions anymore.
Like American Gods and DC comics Egyptian and Norse, Greek Deities become Old Gods like forgotten and abandoned by their own worshippers. Rise of New Gods control technology and new schools
It'd definitely be great if they unite the Asgardian gods, Olympian gods & Ennead in Thor Love & Thunder. Also don't forget the Taoist gods of Ta Lo!
the "love" of them coming together, and "thunder", the clash to make it happen
Reminds me of Age of Mythology if they do this.
Percy Jackson confirmed for Love & Thunder 😂
@@djodyssey99 HELL YEAHH
Dude imagine 😂😂😂
@@djodyssey99 oh nah 💀
the scene when Khonsu and Marc rearranging the stars was absolutely beautiful! Love that scene, gives me the feeling for some reason.
steven*
It’s Steven not Marc
it was both beautiful and scary for me.
I love the show so far, but the meeting with the gods just felt lazy.
Arthur Harrow is Khonshu's former avatar and starts a fairly good size cult to worship Ammit. He has a staff full of Ammit's power. Khonshu makes a grand gesture to point out that his former, pissed off avatar is in the desert to find Amit.
It's hard to believe that none of these gods have any power to sense bullshit.
They could have shortened the scene to:
Marc/Khonshu: Arthur found the scarab and is about to release Ammit!
Arthur: Khonshu is a dick and Marc is weird.
Gods: We agree. Khonshu is a dick and Marc is really weird. Now leave.
I completely agreed. Not only that, but even the set for that scene and the lack of CGI (only went as far as glowing eyes) felt lazy as well. The set was very dark lit, and just threw some Egyptian statues and put it at the base of a pyramid and called it good. I wish they would’ve put it in a secret spooky crypt of a pyramid or something like that. Seemed like they just said “good enough” and went with it. I felt that immediately while watching that scene. Also yes, the discussion was cut so short and didn’t even hear Khonshu or Marc out at all. There was so much more that could’ve been said. Like “look at the tattoo on his arm!” Or “look at his staff!” Would’ve gone a long way. Maybe the gods are conspiring against Khonshu. I guess that would make the most sense.
@@christianolson8543 I think most of the budget went into the last 3 episodes. Episode 4 already looks insane
Exactly 😂
Lazy writing leads to the Gods coming off as Dumb AF.
None have the power to judge people (other than Ammit and Khonchu), so they wouldn't be able to do anything anyways to Harrow
The whole don't meddle thing made me think of Eternals straight away. Eternals are now going to start medelling again, Thor and his Asgard crew are now literally integrated onto earth, and gonna get Jane as a bit of an avatar of Thor. Black Panther and Wakanda has now opened up to the rest of the world. It wouldn't surprise me if Shang chi is some sort of avatar for a chinese god with those rings. This is all leading to some Gods showdown. I wonder if like wayyyyyy in the past the main gods got together and made a deal with each other to stop medelling/squabbling over ruling man. So when Loki tried to rule earth, Odin was like FFS the pact was broken so kinda why he was super angry? Just a theory tho.
Actually that's a brilliant theory
Old idea tho. Some alien gods already made such pact over the world and it was shown in X-men via Juggernaut.
I thought the introduction of the other God's was rather messy. However, if they introduced them not only to further the plot in Moon Knight but to die at the hands of Gorr as well.... I would love that.
I would lose my sh*t if Christian Bale showed up as Gorr at the end of Moon Knight like how Jonathan Majors showed up at the end of Loki. I think we need that segue into Thor Love & Thunder since we’ve seen absolutely nothing about it so far.
...Yep.
If only any of phase 4 marvel was trying to do any conective tissue at all.. I cant express how played out I feel the whole "this show is going to change the entire fabric of the mcu moving forward" line that we get from MCUtubers seems to feel. I don't have much faith anything will be as deep/connective as we long for it to be anymore
Asgardians are aliens in the MCU, the Egytpian gods come from the Overvoid aka Celestial Heliopolis, the origins of the Celestials are unknown, and we are seeing Greek gods in love and thunder ( Ares was also teased in Ragnarok)
How or when was Ares teased in Ragnarok?
Yes pls explain
When thor went to sakar, theres 4 warriors on the tower. One of them is ares, another is beta ray bill, and theres 2 more
I’m pretty sure they retcon that. Can use odin said they were aliens in Thor 1 now there gods in Thor 3. Thor was always a god. He just qualify has a alien cause he’s not from planet earth
@@gabrielmoore3733 A statue of Ares was seen on Sakaar made by the Grandmaster, statue of just his head tho.
Think youre missing the clue right in front of your face Ryan. Arthur harrow isn't really the avatar of ammit. He's the avatar of Anubis. He's trying to bring ammit back, so I doubt he would give up his own power if he was ammits avatar. Anubis was the one with a summonable jackal army that would weigh people's souls against a feather on the scales and if they weren't lighter than the feather they would be fed to ammit. Which makes me think harrow is Anubis's avatar in league with ammit using one of ammits artifacts. Similar to how khonshu and Hathor have a history together in Egyptian mythology because they are both gods of the sky(life), kind of like how Anubis and ammit are both gods of earth(death.)
How would the gods NOT know who his real god was? Wouldn't they have seen that?
@@ColorMeConfused29 they never say who harrows avatar actually is. It's just heavily implied that's it's ammit. But I think that's for a bait and switch at the end when they reveal he's in league with ammit and the scales of life and death are no longer held by a fair unbais entity. And when Thanos snapped most of the people away ammit was fixing to eat them all. But I'm guessing he's not happy about hulk snapping a bunch of souls outta his tummy making him hungry as fuck. I think that's why ammit wants to be resurrected so badly because he feels cheated out of his "soul food."
@@BrockSamsonite sheesh i hope that’s true
I rather like your theory.
What do you think of Moon Knight, halfway through?
awesome!
I'm so stoked to see more.
Didn't know about its existence, but it's quite good!
Excellent job
I love it but Anubis is one of the most famous gods in the Egyptian mythology
Based on the statues, the missing gods are probably:
Ammit (imprisoned)
Khonshu (banished)
Seth (probably banished by Horus)
Anubis (MIA)
Lol I like how most of the egyptian gods have cool names and theres just Seth
@@Playpumaa65 that’s the Greek version of Set(i)’s nans
@@Playpumaa65 Haha I also like that Marvel uses the (valid) spelling Seth instead of Set. Makes him sound like a suburban high school bully. Just a rude dude with an attitude.
Gorr is probably gonna cut the gods down to size. Remember the Atlanteans worship Poseidon, brother of zeus and Namor is the main villain of Black Panther 2.
Naw he ain’t takin the Egypt gods, there in there own dimension to where only they can get too. Only if they decide to intervene and help out would they have trouble with him!!
Yeah they definatrly introduce greek gods but before black panther there is thor love and thynder so i dont know maybe in black panther 2 there will be introduced poseidon not every greek gods
@@zzirfamo24 An Egyptian God is actually already confirmed to make appearance in Thor 4 so nope
@@andyseinfeld1954 wrong, I found no evidence of that so send me a link for that??
This video was super informative and entertaining. Like usual, Ryan hits these right out of the park. My biggest question to all of this is, if the Pantheon of Egyptian gods turned there backs on humanity and no longer meddle in the lives of mere mortals, then why do they still feel the need to select human avatars when they don’t really do anything? My other question is, if Gorr the God Butcher is going to be the main antagonist/ villain of Thor Love and Thunder, then that means we will most likely see him wield the Necrosword which was forged by Knull the God of the Symbiotes and Exolons. Does that mean Knull is apart of the MCU and will we be seeing him at some point in a future MCU film?
Possible, would be a great villain
Maybe the gods need avatars for the exact reason we just saw in episode 3.
@@mpls1982 So if they only select human avatars for the simply means of making sure not one god over steps there boundaries within the realm we call Earth, then I guess you pretty much answered my question. I’m assuming we’ll have to wait and see what happens when one of the avatars goes above and beyond with what they’re allowed to do. For example, Arthur Harrow’s deception and insurrection to the Enead and his quest to free Amit from her tomb.
You’ll probably see your mom
Wandavision is about the reality.
Falcon and the winter soldier is about power.
Loki is about time.
Hawkeye is about soul.
Moonknight is about mind.
All there is left is space
what if. dimensions/space. maybe?
AsGuardians of the Galaxy
Moonknight is the only good quality show in the MCU. The rest of the movies and series are just ok.
🤯
@@ramencurry6672You lied. Loki and WandaVision are better
I think your breakdowns are the best on UA-cam now. Newrockstars used to be up there but you’ve taken the cake for sure. This one is an the perfect example of a well thought out theory that I’m sure many people hopes is true because it would be incredible to explore. Newrockstars is over there taking about how Khonsu turned the world back in time 2000 years which obviously didn’t happen.
If Ammiut is imprisoned in stone, and Harrow still is able to use her powers for like 10 different things as we have so far seen, then why is marc not able to summon the suit and heal his gun shots?
Maybe the staff itself holds some of ammits power idk tho
@@yessirski1013 you’re right it does Harrow says it in episode 2 when layla shows up with the scarab
Thanks for your amazing videos Ryan!
if you read the comics it can be easily rectified. All Khonshu needs to do is put a different star in the place of the ones that went supernova. He does this using his main power which is called lunar kinesis. It allows him to shift and move any cosmic body to his will including stars, moons, and planets.
I’m would be interested in seeing Horus, as I just did a project on Ancient Egypt
I just had a thought, what if other pantheons like the Asgard or the Ennead fed off the energies given by intelligent life meant for the gestating Celestial? Basically, by worshiping them, humans weren’t feeding the Celestial, but the Pantheons had to be careful not to feed too greedily lest they find themselves at the receiving end of the Eternals or worse, Arishem’s wrath.
I think that the reason why Khonshu is trying soo hard not to let Amit out could be that both of them went against the other gods...maybe they were together or something...and he finds out Amits intention to betray even Khonshu and punish the innocent...and then when the other gods cage Amit, i think Khonshu still had some love left for her and maybe saved her from being completely banished and find her a respectful place, maybe that's why he remembers that night...and i think he fears the worse of her return
The panther goddess is definitely the black panthers avatar and I also believe that these Egyptian gods give gifts to their avatars to help them think about it Harro has the cane the black panther has the heart shaped herb and konshu and Mark Spector has the moonlight costume so it’s obvious that the black panther is indeed the avatar two bast and bast definitely gave him or them the heart shape Herb as a gift just like Herro has the cane Konshu and Mark Spector has the moonlight costume as a gift
"panther goddess is definitely the black panthers avatar"
You've got that backwards.
If that’s the case. Why didn’t Tchalla appear in the with the rest of the Avatars
@@tmac731 well there isnt a current black panther actor
@@keemkeem3820 there could be a Tchalla actor if they don’t kill him off
Black panthet is not her avatar they wakandans just worship her
I’m pretty sure the group we saw were five avatars…
Isis, Osiris, Horus, Hathor and Tefnut. She didn’t talk as much, but at the end you’ll see her, when they did the imprisonment of Konshu.
What if they stepped back from humanity because they realised the race itself was doomed to inevitably perish when the celestial growing within the planet would eventually be born?
I’d like to think that Odin knew about Earth will eventually get destroyed & he doesn’t want to battle with Celestials. Maybe Odin’s father negotiated with Celestials & that’s how Asgard is not really a planet. He didn’t like when Thor brought Jane to Asgard. Asgardians are pretty much protectors of nine realms so growing intellectual beings are the reason Celestials can be born. Egyptian gods also probably aware of this too.
Well that… clears alot up. Thanks you guys.
the actor who played as Apocalypse is the same actor who plays Moon Knight
I think the prison type place we see in the trailer will be in Marks head and khonshu helped Mark to imprison Steven and Jake so that they wouldn’t interfere. Anyone else think the same?
The real question is, how did Harrow escape Khonshus grasp? Did Khonshu just get tired of him?
5:27 In the comics, Sekhmet and Bast are Khonshu’s siblings.
6:46 Sadly, they eventually divorced.
12:00 Gilgamesh actually mentioned helping Odin fight the Frost Giants in Tønsberg, Norway.
I've been thoroughly enjoying Moon Knight. It feels fresh and new, yet addicting like the avengers was. I watched all the shows after End game like Loki, Hawkeye and Wanda Vision and it just felt to much like grasping at straws in an attempt to keep milking the Avengers. Moon Knight doesnt feel like that at all. 😁
I love mythologic stories and drawings. Wrote lots of things about them. And when I saw Ennead in Marvel, I was happy. Now, I tend to think It may be very interesting to see if they add some gods from the mythologies of Turkic, Mayan/Aztec/Incan, Slavic, Indian, and Japonic. They have also really cool goods and stories with deeply detailed backgrounds.
For example, In Turkic mythology, there's a legend called "Grey Wolf legend".
"""The legend tells of a young boy who survived a raid in his village. A she-wolf finds the injured child and nurses him back to health. He subsequently impregnates the wolf which then gives birth to ten half-wolf, half-human boys. One of these, Ashina/Asena, becomes their leader and establishes the Ashina clan which ruled the Göktürks and other Turkic nomadic empires."""
So, in MCU, we can see them for background on how the first werewolves were created in the world with the consequence tied with some the deities. Because there is a series called "Werewolf by Night" and it'd be a logical and reasonable choice to tie them to some different higher powers.
Or the Mayan/Aztec/Incan side, there is a "Quetzalcoatl" which is also a very colorful one that even may tie with Chinese dragons as we saw Shang Chi.
Harrow didn't actually lie at the trial, he just omitted certain facts that would have proven his guilt. He tricked them by only saying things that were technically true.
So if I’m correct about mythology.....Anubis would bring a soul into the underworld. And the heart of the soul would be weighed in balance to a feather that was carried by Anubis. If the soul was exceptionally evil or they lived a bad life the souls heart would be eaten by Ammit who was said to look like a dog alligator cross
you did it again, ryan! another world class breakdown. also, am i the only one who absolutely fell in love with yatzil? she is a literal goddess!
From long after the show aired, looking back on these videos makes me intrigued that we could pull so much out of the clues they left for us that they actually didn't end up using to amount to anything. The set design guys are really good at their jobs, but lore like this could have made the show so much more interesting if they had actually included it. But hey, maybe season 2...
I remember T'Challa speaking about Bastet when his father was killed in Civil War...
To Natasha on the park bench outside the UN
might be one of your best videos here.
I find it so funny Oscar Isaac is playing the Moon Knight, an Egyptian marvel hero, who used to play as Apocalypse/En Sabah Nur, a marvel villain
I hope they show Anubis and Sobek soon!!
Thank you for this, Ryan!😊
Crushing it as always Ryan! Always looking forward to your breakdowns! 🔥
Love the Van Halen reference!! Love the channel as well, thanks for all you do!!
Gods and their Avatars-
Osiris, Isis and Horus- Rich People
Geb and Nut- Unknown Avatars
Hathor- Yatzel
Tef Nut- Wakandan Woman
Bast- T'Challa/Black Panthers
Khonshu- Marc/Moon Knights'
Ammit- None (currently)/Arthur Harrow (half possessed)
I love that it’s kevin bacon and during infinity war whats her face from guardians asks about him being on the avengers and thor says “he might be on the team…”
In noticing the missing gods and then seeing the statues in the credits that are like Khonshu's, I thought perhaps they were also imprisoned for one reason or another?
My question is, why dont the egyptian gods (ennead) know that harrow is lying? Where are they? Cant they see his actions on earth?
Right!! I was wondering this the whole time Harrow was speaking to them. Not only that, they can sense/see the sky manipulated, but not 40-50 people digging up a banished God in Egpyt lol.
Thanks Ryan!
Great video, in no small part because of the excellent movie collection behind him on that shelf lol.
ScreenCrush: *explains Bast theory*
Me: Ryan, you madlad. You’ve done it again🤯
Wonderful deep dive. Thank you.
Writers really brilliant, Moon knight is a success to me, my fave series of Marvel.
my favpart in thor love n thunder is when thor looked in to the camera and said "its thorbin time".
Bast and Khonshu are also some sort of brothers according to a marvel page I read a few weeks ago.
So are Ammit and Agamotto siblings (sort of)
you should watch in the outro and intro. there are more statues like Konshu and the other gods imprisoned a lot
Wait, wait, wait...Question. All of the other gods possessed their avatars in the chamber to speak to Khonshu, right? Why wasn't Harrow taken over by his god?
Harrow isn't an Avatar any more, he was the avatar of Khonshu.
Because he is trying to be ammits avatar .she is in stone
best part of world building is the bridges that connect different parts (Dr. Strange 2 is going to be fantastic) and than (Love and Thunder) and heck we still have got the Demon stuff to explore
Yes its mindbreaking 🤯
This so cool, imagine if you have been chosen by any God to be their avatar.
After your excellent explanations, Erics, and he who will not be named *aka Paul* I feel like I am an expert Egyptologist now!
Does all the Ennead Avitars have powered suits like moon knight?
Not powered suits, they get powers like there gods. Like how Arthur can kill people by touching them using Ammit power!!
It’s like I’m watching death note (not the entire show of course) with the way they have a god like beings that they can only see and are the ones talking to them. It’s pretty dope to think about.
i love that he has that area 51 book on top of all the other mythology related books, suggesting all the gods are aliens.
Doesn't Osiris mention to Harrow that turning Khonshu to stone is a fate that's befallen gods previously? (Just in reference to the 4 empty seats).
You used the load line. Of course you did. 👏🏻
I don't know how I know this but I already knew the whole Osiris stuff but this is fun to watch
This was great Thank you
You the best explaining this
All I can say is, I never knew I needed to hear the Power Rangers theme song over Xmen Apocalypse...Thank you lol!
Love this show! Egyptian mythology was/is astonishing.
My favorite fandom channel !!
During the credits there are 13 statues of gods.
Very similar form then Khonshu "prison" statue.
Those are probably previously imprisoned gods.
Among thet 13 statue there's my favorite snake god from Stargate SG-1 Apophis.
3:44 Osiris; Isis; Horus; Hathor; Teffnu; Geb; and my favourite Chinpokomon; Shoe.
When he says there’s only 7 on the poster, it’s totally foreshadowing that Khonshu and Ahmet are kicked out
Not me JUST now putting together that Oscar was Apocalypse and is now back in Egypt. Need to rewatch Apocalypse, it’s been too long
i wonder if any of the egyptian gods will show up in thor 3.. Because i always wondered why Gorr didn’t go after Khonshu
Konshu in comics is an elder god which is far stronger than other Egyptian gods as he only impersonated as an Egypt god when in actuality he's an elder god
And gorr doesn't have the power reqyired to kill an elder gof
@@sylver1146 that’s so cool! couldn’t the venom sword kill him?
@@johnwerner69 nah venom sword was made by someone who's also an elder god so no , atleast not without a universe shattering fight between those two
The necrosword decapitated a celestial. It can easily kill an Elder god.
"We see that 4 seats are empty" well Konshu, Ammit, Tawert and one other
Great vid as always…
I pointed it out in one of my previous comments to look after the books Steven was reading … did u „find it out“ by yourself or did I read some comments from your beloved community ;) ?!
Thanks for the summary, I’ve watched it a 3rd time today with my wife
I've only seen the fist clip of this video and it reminded me that there were 2 less gods than before, from 9 to 7 to know 5 in that chamber scene. 2 more must've been "fired" too lol
It feels a bit like they are setting up Mark’s “ex” wife to be the next avatar of Hathor. This would explain the whole “he used to like her music” thing.
Nah i think she is gonna be a sidekick
Isn't she going to be the Scarlet Scarab or something?
I more likely to think that the Egyptian Gods has stopped being worshipped since the clash between the Abrahamic and the Egyptian religion. Such as the time of Moses.
Now that we have avatars and gods in the MCU, can we expect Tanaraq and Sasquatch to show up? I would be stoked if they did Department H and Alpha Flight before they begin the X-men. It would be a cool entrance into X-men.
If they "don't mettle" then why have avatars at all?
I watched moonlight last night it's pretty good so far.
great use of "why is gamora"
Kang and Apocalypse aren't the only supervillains with connections to ancient Egypt. Don't forget Anath-Na Mut and Meryet Karim (the Sphinx and the Sphinx).
Their eyes glowed white when they were taken over, I think this was a nod to Stargate SG-1 and the Goa'uld who were Egyptian gods.
Look again at scene in Episode 2 Summon the Suit when Steven is being fired. There is one of those little stone Gods on the desk. I'll predict those recommended wonderful doctors turn out to be Gods other celestial help. The HR rep ends by telling Steven he's not alone. Which is also easter eggish as we know Steven is at this point not aware that he is at least 3 people. So lets see if Mr HR reappears as some type of help.
I think they stepped back due to the Pharaohs gaining prominence in Egypt. And then I think some of the gods are missing because of Gorr. Like Ra is the head of the ennead, maybe Gorr sought him and killed him. It be interesting to see the Norse, Greek and Egyptian gods all interact.
Like always, all your videos are so interesting and so entertaining. I love watching these kind of videos :)
Nah, the missing Gods of the Ennead were already killed by SG-1
Lmao yup they did but Osiris made it out alright, and back in a male host too.
@@Jmaul85 I agree, since their eyes glow and they shift from host to god like the Goa'uld I am waiting for a stargate and Jack O Nell to show up with some snarky line.
I have a random question. When told what Narrow was doing for Ammit, judging people before they committed their crime, does anyone else see the parallel between what they are doing and what Hydra wanted to do with Project Insight? Eliminating threats before they happened.
This guy is incredible 🔥
Or maybe Marks wife will become the avatar of Amid?! They seem to be setting her up as someone’s avatar
Some people are throwing around Rama Tut/Kang or Apocalypse as the reason... Your theory of alien meddling works a lot better with the Sphinx and the Ka Stone in there as well.
With Egyptian gods entering the scene, I hope the next major villain is the pharaoh Akhenaten, he was badass in the comics and it took pretty much everyone to defeat him.
The release of Ammit will renew faith in the Egyptian Gods, giving them back their power via worship of the masses and allowing them to leave the Overvoid. Osiris is in league with Harrow.
Maybe what the gods viewed as humanity abonding them was when alexander the great conqureud egypt making the religion greek.
My guess is that the great Rift between God and Man turns out to be the Amarma Heresies. Apparently a name on the scarab translates to Amenhotep. The fourth Pharoah named Amenhotep changed his name to Akenaten, and changed the whole religious structure to a monotheistic worship of the sun god Aten. The whole change did not even last until his son took over. The Pharoah we know today as King Tut.