"Top Rarest Items" you'll never use because Materias. The only part they can be really useful at are in the Wutai sidequest when Yuffie snatches all your Materia.
Not only have I gotten the Vagyrisk Claw the hard way, I've done it up to 3 times (twice after noticing I missed stuff and needed to backtrack). The price you pay for wanting to win every Fort Condor minigame. I had a nearly perfect save file for some years but in June/July 2016 I finally went on ahead and did the perfect playthrough. Obsessing over every minute detail, not missing so much as a dialog box, I even got 3 Mythrils from the sleeping man in the cave (One to teach Great Gospel, one to keep the Great Gospel item in the inventory and one to keep the Mythril key item). It only took me 6 weeks, so if you're reading this and you care about 100 percenting FF7, you can do it!
I'd add Stardust (edit: hard to loot but you can buy it in Battle Square...), Light Curtain and Lunar Curtain. ^_^ Also, here are _some_ tiny corrections and additional explanations. ;) *War Gong* from Grand Horn You have 14% chance to loot it from Grand Horn. Low but still better than 6%. :) The probability in the data say 8, but at this point that's not a percentage. It's a value out of 64. The probabilities and some other data such as element affinities on Wikia are incorrect, maybe due to wrong formulas / rounds or not enough tests. Gamefaqs explains much accurately FF7 deep mechanics and I get the same values when I check in the files with enemies or attacks editors. For each (non stolen non morphed) killed enemy, the game chooses an integer between 0 and 63 inclusive, then checks if this is less or equal to the item chance. If it's true, you win this item. Else, the game does the same for the next item of this enemy, if there is another. Grand Horn has 8/63 chance to drop a War Gong, then 8/63 to drop a Hi-Potion. You add 1 to have that value between 1 and 64 inclusive, then you can convert in %. War Gong: 9/64 ~14% Not War Gong: 1 - 9/64 = 55/64 ~86% and Hi-Potion: 55/64 × 9/64 = 495/4096 ~12% and not Hi-Potion: 55/64 * (1 - 9/64) = 55/64 × 55/64 = 3025/4096 ~74%. In clear, a Grand Horn drops a War Gong with 14% chance or a Hi-Potion with 12% chance or nothing with 74% chance. The same method is used for base chance of stealing, but the real steal chance depends on the level of the ally and of the enemy and if the ally wears the Sneak Glove or not. *War Gong* from Behemoth You can steal a War Gong from a Behemoth too, and not only during the sector 8 raid. :D He is at the Battle Square, in the special battle, so you need to have Ultima Weapon, W-Summon and to learn Omnislash. The best level to steal the War Gong from Behemoth is 54, with 25% chance per try. Above, you'll have more chance to steal its Phoenix Down so less chance to steal its War Gong, like with a Bagrisk. At level 99, you have 95.3% chance for the Phoenix Down and 4.5% for the War Gong. You can try to get the Level - 10 and Level - 5 handicaps though, since you're in the arena. xD Note that you must NOT use the Sneak Glove, as you'd have 100% chance to steal the Phoenix Down so 0% to steal the War Gong, even if you were level 1! In your video, you stole the War Gong at the 2nd attempt, but I'd say that's a coincidence. :o I'm pretty sure the stealable items of an enemy are checked all at once , and not one per attempt, with the next one on the next attempt. But that's interesting. Can you confirm? If you're right, doesn't that mean you just have to fail 1 or 2 thefts then to steal that same enemy with another ally wearing the Sneak Glove in order to have 100% chance to steal? This way, under level 25, the Vagyrisk Claw would have a 28%+ rate instead of 4.23% at level 11! :D The War Gong can target the allies too. In this case, it has 100% chance to inflict Berserk instead of its regular 79% chances. *8-inch* Looting from Cromwell = 5%. I don't write down the calculation for each item, it's the same method as above. There is another Attack Squad fight when Yuffie steals your Materias. You may want to steal them anyway for the challenge. :D She always takes your 48 best Materias. There's a defined order, this isn't about AP except for ex-æquo. Hopefully and paradoxically, Steal is one of her least favorite. So if you have 48 Materias excluding your Fire, Ice, Lightning, Restore, Heal and 1 Steal, you keep 1 Steal when she leaves. *Holy Torch* Looting from Unknown3 = 5%. However, Stilva and Evilhead are in the Battle Square after you got the Highwind. ;) Holy Torch is pretty similar to DeSpell, but they're not exactly the same for some reason... Death Force and Resist are canceled by DeSpell but not Holy Torch. Mini is canceled by Holy Torch but not DeSpell. *Mirror* Looting from Mirage = 14%. The stairs are indeed the best spot to encounter Mirages. For the ones who like Pre-emptive, avoid using a mastered one, as it reduces your chance to be attacked from both sides: there are two possible enemies formations with Mirages and one of them is the ambush one. *Graviball* Looting from Deenglow = 14%. Remember you can't loot an item from an enemy you stole. *Ghost Hand* Looting from Ghost = 5%. *Dragon Fang* The attack is pretty the same as Schizos' final attack except your own Dragon Fang can't miss and it ignores MBarr. :D *Vagyrisk Claw* from Bagrisk Individually, the 1st Soft has 33/64 ~52% chance, the 2nd Soft has the same, and the Vagyrisk Claw has 9/64 ~14%. With the "item 1 else item 2 else item 3 else nothing" order I mentioned above, you have a base chance of 1st Soft = 33/64 ~52% not the 1st Soft = 31/64 ~48% 2nd Soft = 31/64 × 33/64 = 1023/4096 ~25% not the 2nd Soft = 31/64 × 31/64 = 961/4096 ~23% Vagyrisk Claw = 961/4096 × 9/64 = 8649/262144 ~3% nothing = 961/4096 × 55/64 = 52855/262144 ~20% any Soft = 33/64 + 1023/4096 = 3135/4096 ~77%. But these are only the base chances and you're correct for the real chance taking into account the level of the thief and the target. Level 11 is indeed the best. :) I get 1/16384 for the Claw at level 77 but the difference must be due to the rounds. Once again, if you have the Sneak Glove, you'll have 0% to get the Vagyrisk Claw, whichever is your level. You can still count on the level handicaps as the Bagrisks are in the Battle Square before CD 2. xD *Vagyrisk Claw* from CMD Grand Horn If you lose the mini-game, you fight one of the three CMD Grand Horn, who are level 19, 25 and 37. Only the level 19 one gives you a Vagyrisk Claw. The game will chose this one if at least one of these conditions is true. - Cloud is alone - the average level of your characters excluding Aeris < 19 - this average is between 19 and 24 inclusive and you killed a certain amount of enemies in this fight before losing it (ie you let only the Commander climb the Fort, to be sure you killed enough enemies, if you REALLY want plenty of Vagyrisk Claws). A Fort Condor battle is available at several moments of the game. - before Junon - between fighting Bottomswell and getting Shiva (Cloud is alone!) - between getting the whistle and using it (Cloud is still alone!) - between getting the buggy and visiting the Cosmo Canyon - and so on... There are 15 battles in total. Knowing this, it's easy to get several Vagyrisk Claws. *Kiss of Death* Looting from Death Dealer = 14%. Inflicts Death on all with 67% chance per target. That's not as efficient as Odin and Remove but much better than Death + All. *Earth Mallet* Looting from Gigas = 14%. The attack is pretty the same as Quake3 but it can't miss (except on targets resisting to Earth) and it ignores MBarr, Reflect and split damage. The split is the reduction to 2/3 of the damage and the chance to inflict statuses when you give the All effect to an action. Other items to mention *Stardust* (like Comet2, can't miss, ignores MBarr) You can loot one from Behemoth with 14% chance, during the Midgar sector 8 raid. Else you have to loot it from Serpent in the Gelnika, with *4%* chance, which is the worst drop rate of the game! *Light Curtain* (Barr on all) You can morph Corvette in Junon tunnels under the ocean, or morph Sword Dance during the Midgar raid if you come back to the HQ. Garuda in Da-Chao and Unknown in the Gelnika drop it with 10% and 5% chance. *Lunar Curtain* (MBarr on all) Foulander in Da-Chao and Unknown2 in the Gelnika drop it with 14% and 5% chance. Thanks for the video. Long live to FF7.
The most rare item for me in 7 was the Behemoth Horn at the top or near the top of the stairs in the return to Midgar/Shinra raid. I had never heard or seen it in any guides before so not long ago when I first saw someone bring it up I was like, "Whaaaat!" Maybe there's some even MORE rare unfound items out there in the Game still!
Just started my sixth playthrough of this game. Getting nostalgia vibes from 1997 as a 13 year old still. Such a magical game. Remember my first playthrough, the in-game clock started over and eventually stopped counting after reaching the maximum amount of hours again in red numbers.
This is mind blowing. when i thought i found everything and done everything I could in this game, I am looking at all these videos on thing's i never heard about.
Might I suggest checking out "4-8 Productions" on UA-cam, as well as "death_unites_us" on Twitch, (They are the same person), he's got a few records set in the game, has a few videos on the best Materia combinations possible in the game, as well as a Glitches & Oddities video that is rather lengthy. But he also has a video on the cool little side quest in Junon, that lets you get the Shinra red Submarine for the rest of the game!
This is my favorite video of yours man. Would love additional parts for other rare items. Kinda makes me wanna try a item only playthrough... Wonder how possible that'd be
Justin Lenhart actually at this point, you should be making use of steal cause in the same train graveyard, those small flying enemies that cast ice on you... You can still ether' from. I get 99 of em everytime I come here & grind like crazy
Oh yes. Those Ethers sell at 750gil a pop, one of the most valuable items you can get at this stage. Though I usually get bored after farming about twenty! It's also a good place to hunt for Eligor, who has a new staff for Aeristhsthsthsth.
I've played this over 150 hours as a kid. Pretty sure i got them all except Nr.1 but i might be wrong since i never used throwable attack items. I had totally forgotten about those nr.3 enemies though but they look familiar when i see their move-sets. So cool when stuff from your childhood pops up from some old memory bank in your brain :D
i always had tons and tons of ghost hands and graviballs because id farm the train graveyard for the striking staff before moving on, since it let aerith actually help in some fights without using magic. graviballs were also a big part of my grand strategy for getting the beta enemy skill immediately after getting to midgar zolom. (you need to do a tiny bit of level grinding, put your entire party in the back row, inflict sadness on all of them so they take even less damage, equip elemental + fire in someone's armor to reduce the damage even further, then pelt zolom with graviballs and the items that inflict poison, when his hp gets low, he will cast beta, then take a tick of poison and die. Then you have basically fire3 + all to absolutely trounce enemies for the first third of the game!)
Your video popped up on my feed out of nowhere. I haven't played ff7 in about 3 maybe 4 years. I beat it 4 time. I'm going to start up a new file in play the game again keep up the good work and hang in there. Thank you
@@Jacindalau25it essentially is dispel (spelled "DeSpell" in the english version of the game) but as an item. You use it to remove positive status effects like protect or haste from a target
You say there's only a 3% chance that the Cromwell will drop the 8-inch Cannon. Well every time I fought a Cromwell and I mean every time it has dropped an 8-inch can each one of them
Same here! I got it basically every time...Especially when you destroy the entire machine with one attack/2x slash instead of singularly destroying the pieces to it.
may as well tell you guys the secret training ground to max the materia it's off the coast of mideel a tiny spec of land that counts as madeel to train early just keep pausing and checking the area name should be grinding 5 of those bug dudes lots of ap this is available after disc to but before disc 3 u can train early before reaching. madeel its. second only to the final dungeon area.
Preach, a FFXIV streamer I'm fond of who did an extremely casual first time FF7 playthrough, managed to steal a Vagyrisk Claw and have it stolen in the Corel Prison without ever knowing it was a rare item. I thought back to this vid and had a laugh.
I'm pretty sure "Vagyrisk Claw" is supposed to be "Basilisk Claw" because the effect is Petrification, which Basilisks often cause in Final Fantasy games.
My greatest achievement for me was able to master the materia to turn in for master. Arming my team with three sets of the master materia which let you cast all the magic, support and summons from a single materia.
Vagyrisk Claw is supposed to be called Basilisk Claw, FF7's translation was really, really bad with picking up on these cultural/religious references. Other examples include Midgarsomr becoming Midgar Zolom and Sefer Sephiroth becoming Safer Sephiroth.
Wow. I just fought the Gigas enemies recently while doing a little stealing to get a few Gigas Armlets but not once did they ever drop any Earth Mallets...in fact I've never even heard of them until now!
On my next to last game I got 99 Minerva, Tough Rings, and Ziedrichs, using the W-Item glitch/and steal. This last time I forgot to sell off the few items of them I had in my inventory and blew it this time.
Vagyrisk claw. What the hell bro the percentage of getting this item you can tell that squaresoft was really really thinking out these items and putting them in particular places for a reason they thought all of this out this is another reason why this is one of the greatest games of all time. It's incredible the detail they put into everything and now we got the remix coming out and credible can't wait can't wait
This is fascinating but it's absolute madness, why make items that are so rare and so hard to get? Some of them such as the kiss of death come so late in the game that they are practically useless.
Ether is the item of highest C/P level in beginning term. Without MP, hardly keep HP and attack multiple targets. 1500 Gil for one ether is quite so cheap!
The Stilvas are susceptible to Level 4 Suicide which makes very easy to morph into the item. You also never mention in this video that stealing from an enemy prevents them from dropping items. Also, Gigas? More like Big Shoes.
None of these are a problem if you're willing to fight the same enemies absurd number of times..just to see what Steal, Morph and end battle drops each enemy gives. Vagyrisk claw is so easily overlooked. Hardly anyone I know who played the game would actually go back and forth to fort condor. Anyway, nice list!
Kinda funny. I used to get all of these items. Didn't know they were rare. Most sat in my items list ignored because if use them once, realize they were crap and never use them again. I hope that when ff7 remake is totally complete these items will be as rare but powerful.
I think the rarest in 7 is supposedly a weapon called the Behemoth Horn for Red XIII that you can only get during the ending Shinra building/Midgar raid. I had never heard of it until quite lately.
Barret and Cait Sith also have missable weapons, i got lucky into getting Barret ultimate weapon on my first playtrought, your party members keep telling you to not go places during the raid, but you shoul, it's like the developers intended to make you miss as much things as possible during the raid.
i might be wrong most likely but some of those items you can acquire by equiping the morph materia and killing them enemies instead of droping them with a % you get it throug comand.. at least thats is how i used to farm some of those items
My old ps1 mem card got corrupted, so I lost my perfect save file. I'm currently doing another perfect save run and just like the first time, I'll be using the w-item glitch heavily lol.
I have two mastered Enemy Skill materia and I've gotten all these items--I didn't have the bestiary section of my strategy guide at the time because it's so old and worn out, and I just wanted to see if there were monsters that had duplicates of a skill (ie, Chimera/Jenova LIFE = Aqualung). So, yeah, I didn't think any of these items were "rare" at all...except the Dragon Fang. Thanks for the heads up on that one btw
I've made a buster sword out of titanium. It's on my Facebook under Aquarius Fabrication. It might get showcased at a comicon soon. Thought you might appreciate seeing it as you seem to be really into it.
Jesus, I still have nightmares how hard it is to get earth mallet and mirror. But most of these are not as hard as getting all items and weapons in FF 4. FF 4 grinding is on another level, I did it once and not doing it again.
Hey not sure if you've done this video, but how about the top 10 most difficult materia to obtain in this game. Magic Counter, Sneak Attack, those 2 are top contenders. Or another top 10: the most difficult Enemy Skills to obtain.
OmegaBlackHeart I was thinking about doing that. But I think I might just combine them all into one video. Rarest/hard to get things that I haven't mentioned already
"Added Cut" materia that is found in the snow after the snowboarding game would have to be number one. I didn't even know it existed until I watched a playthrough, and it is still very missable even if you know about it.
Pretty useful when trying to accumulate BP (also, pop a Vaccine on the first round to nullify several of the upcoming effects). You're stuffed if the game gives you a reel with all slots as '****** you and your bag of tricks', but oh well.
you forgot RED ROSE after you kill the ultimate weapons in the sand and there is another item you get after killing the ultimate weapons under water which you trade for a item that if you tried to reach in the beging of the game but it said it was to high but the old man you talk to gets it for you!
How prevalent is the knowledge of unlimited tetra elemental armbands? I remember finding them in the days before the internet, despite what the Bradygames strategy guide said about them.....
You said you can't go back to the Gaea Cliffs, which is untrue. In one playthrough I did, I went back through there to see if you could re-enter the North Crater from the caldera, rather than the Highwind, like on the first visit. You can go back as many times as you want, but once you get to the top, you can't return to the crater.
Are you talking about the screen where you can fight Gigas, after Schizo and before Neo Bahamut / Jenova? I see no way to come back here after Cloud gave the Black Materia to crystalized Sephiroth, since this place is destroyed by floods and Weapons awakening. Can you give more details please? That would be interesting. All I know is if you land the ship in the Northern Crater in disc 3, that's a different place, even if the screens may look alike.
1/35 is the scale of the figurine, not a quantity you need. You can get two of them in Junon, and any number as a consolation reward from the Speed Square. But this item has no utility. Probably a canceled "quest" due to a lack of time.
Funily enough I have played this game countless times and almost never use items like this. I use a few sometimes during the Wutai mission because Yufie steels all of your materia, but that's about it. And I only use morph to get the guidebook because like I said... Items are kinda useless, and morph is a pain in the ass to get to work.
I doubt anyone cares, but I think the music really distracts from the content here. It's a bit hard to hear you over the repetitive woo sounds Thanks for making this, I know it's tough to make vids and tougher to please everyone
Dragons from Nibelheim drop a *Fire* Fang (Fire2 on All). The Dragon Fang (Bolt3 on All) is indeed a rare item. Dragon Fang is also the name of the Dragon's physical attack, that's why you remembered this Dragon.
I cant believe you didn't include Sources... I mean you could have put the all in one slot but Power Source, Mind Source, etc. Are some of the best and rarest items as you can max out stats...
One of the greatest things about video games is they can transport you directly back to the eras when you played them. It’s incredibly powerful
"Top Rarest Items" you'll never use because Materias.
The only part they can be really useful at are in the Wutai sidequest when Yuffie snatches all your Materia.
Been thinking that this whole time. What am I even doing, I'm going to bed , lol.
I've been using some of these items to do the source duplication glitch. Didn't know they were that rare
They're good if you're silenced :D
@@The_Gallowglass There's normal attack
@Frank Castle it is not guaranteed you'll lose Materias, though. Depends on RNG and precision on the slots.
Great vid. Don't know why I can't seem to get bored of FF7 trivia videos
Because it's the best game ever!
Laneface yes it is. You talk too s..l..o...w...l..y
Set speed to 1.25x and thank me later ;)
why i don't seen this before, oh my 15min of life ......
Spot on! Great advice!
I suggested this from North Carolina.
Did it immediately
can't do that on mobile
I had no idea about that Gigas enemy and I've been playing this game on and off for 20 years...
Not only have I gotten the Vagyrisk Claw the hard way, I've done it up to 3 times (twice after noticing I missed stuff and needed to backtrack). The price you pay for wanting to win every Fort Condor minigame. I had a nearly perfect save file for some years but in June/July 2016 I finally went on ahead and did the perfect playthrough. Obsessing over every minute detail, not missing so much as a dialog box, I even got 3 Mythrils from the sleeping man in the cave (One to teach Great Gospel, one to keep the Great Gospel item in the inventory and one to keep the Mythril key item). It only took me 6 weeks, so if you're reading this and you care about 100 percenting FF7, you can do it!
Dilly dally shilly shally.
I had eventually gotten 3 Mythrils too! I wonder if you can get more than that...I've never heard anyone say that they have.
You legend 🔥
Did you do 99 of all possible items too? That’s bananas to do
1.earth mallet
2.kiss of death
3.vagyrisk claw
4.dragon fang
5.ghost hand
6.graviball
7.mirror
8.holy torch
9.8-inch cannon
10.war gong
Thank you this dude is bleh
I'd add Stardust (edit: hard to loot but you can buy it in Battle Square...), Light Curtain and Lunar Curtain. ^_^ Also, here are _some_ tiny corrections and additional explanations. ;)
*War Gong* from Grand Horn
You have 14% chance to loot it from Grand Horn. Low but still better than 6%. :)
The probability in the data say 8, but at this point that's not a percentage. It's a value out of 64.
The probabilities and some other data such as element affinities on Wikia are incorrect, maybe due to wrong formulas / rounds or not enough tests. Gamefaqs explains much accurately FF7 deep mechanics and I get the same values when I check in the files with enemies or attacks editors.
For each (non stolen non morphed) killed enemy, the game chooses an integer between 0 and 63 inclusive, then checks if this is less or equal to the item chance. If it's true, you win this item. Else, the game does the same for the next item of this enemy, if there is another.
Grand Horn has 8/63 chance to drop a War Gong, then 8/63 to drop a Hi-Potion. You add 1 to have that value between 1 and 64 inclusive, then you can convert in %.
War Gong: 9/64 ~14%
Not War Gong: 1 - 9/64 = 55/64 ~86%
and Hi-Potion: 55/64 × 9/64 = 495/4096 ~12%
and not Hi-Potion: 55/64 * (1 - 9/64) = 55/64 × 55/64 = 3025/4096 ~74%.
In clear, a Grand Horn drops a War Gong with 14% chance or a Hi-Potion with 12% chance or nothing with 74% chance.
The same method is used for base chance of stealing, but the real steal chance depends on the level of the ally and of the enemy and if the ally wears the Sneak Glove or not.
*War Gong* from Behemoth
You can steal a War Gong from a Behemoth too, and not only during the sector 8 raid. :D He is at the Battle Square, in the special battle, so you need to have Ultima Weapon, W-Summon and to learn Omnislash.
The best level to steal the War Gong from Behemoth is 54, with 25% chance per try. Above, you'll have more chance to steal its Phoenix Down so less chance to steal its War Gong, like with a Bagrisk. At level 99, you have 95.3% chance for the Phoenix Down and 4.5% for the War Gong. You can try to get the Level - 10 and Level - 5 handicaps though, since you're in the arena. xD
Note that you must NOT use the Sneak Glove, as you'd have 100% chance to steal the Phoenix Down so 0% to steal the War Gong, even if you were level 1!
In your video, you stole the War Gong at the 2nd attempt, but I'd say that's a coincidence. :o I'm pretty sure the stealable items of an enemy are checked all at once , and not one per attempt, with the next one on the next attempt. But that's interesting. Can you confirm? If you're right, doesn't that mean you just have to fail 1 or 2 thefts then to steal that same enemy with another ally wearing the Sneak Glove in order to have 100% chance to steal? This way, under level 25, the Vagyrisk Claw would have a 28%+ rate instead of 4.23% at level 11! :D
The War Gong can target the allies too. In this case, it has 100% chance to inflict Berserk instead of its regular 79% chances.
*8-inch*
Looting from Cromwell = 5%. I don't write down the calculation for each item, it's the same method as above.
There is another Attack Squad fight when Yuffie steals your Materias. You may want to steal them anyway for the challenge. :D She always takes your 48 best Materias. There's a defined order, this isn't about AP except for ex-æquo. Hopefully and paradoxically, Steal is one of her least favorite. So if you have 48 Materias excluding your Fire, Ice, Lightning, Restore, Heal and 1 Steal, you keep 1 Steal when she leaves.
*Holy Torch*
Looting from Unknown3 = 5%. However, Stilva and Evilhead are in the Battle Square after you got the Highwind. ;)
Holy Torch is pretty similar to DeSpell, but they're not exactly the same for some reason...
Death Force and Resist are canceled by DeSpell but not Holy Torch. Mini is canceled by Holy Torch but not DeSpell.
*Mirror*
Looting from Mirage = 14%.
The stairs are indeed the best spot to encounter Mirages. For the ones who like Pre-emptive, avoid using a mastered one, as it reduces your chance to be attacked from both sides: there are two possible enemies formations with Mirages and one of them is the ambush one.
*Graviball*
Looting from Deenglow = 14%. Remember you can't loot an item from an enemy you stole.
*Ghost Hand*
Looting from Ghost = 5%.
*Dragon Fang*
The attack is pretty the same as Schizos' final attack except your own Dragon Fang can't miss and it ignores MBarr. :D
*Vagyrisk Claw* from Bagrisk
Individually, the 1st Soft has 33/64 ~52% chance, the 2nd Soft has the same, and the Vagyrisk Claw has 9/64 ~14%.
With the "item 1 else item 2 else item 3 else nothing" order I mentioned above, you have a base chance of
1st Soft = 33/64 ~52%
not the 1st Soft = 31/64 ~48%
2nd Soft = 31/64 × 33/64 = 1023/4096 ~25%
not the 2nd Soft = 31/64 × 31/64 = 961/4096 ~23%
Vagyrisk Claw = 961/4096 × 9/64 = 8649/262144 ~3%
nothing = 961/4096 × 55/64 = 52855/262144 ~20%
any Soft = 33/64 + 1023/4096 = 3135/4096 ~77%.
But these are only the base chances and you're correct for the real chance taking into account the level of the thief and the target. Level 11 is indeed the best. :) I get 1/16384 for the Claw at level 77 but the difference must be due to the rounds.
Once again, if you have the Sneak Glove, you'll have 0% to get the Vagyrisk Claw, whichever is your level.
You can still count on the level handicaps as the Bagrisks are in the Battle Square before CD 2. xD
*Vagyrisk Claw* from CMD Grand Horn
If you lose the mini-game, you fight one of the three CMD Grand Horn, who are level 19, 25 and 37. Only the level 19 one gives you a Vagyrisk Claw. The game will chose this one if at least one of these conditions is true.
- Cloud is alone
- the average level of your characters excluding Aeris < 19
- this average is between 19 and 24 inclusive and you killed a certain amount of enemies in this fight before losing it (ie you let only the Commander climb the Fort, to be sure you killed enough enemies, if you REALLY want plenty of Vagyrisk Claws).
A Fort Condor battle is available at several moments of the game.
- before Junon
- between fighting Bottomswell and getting Shiva (Cloud is alone!)
- between getting the whistle and using it (Cloud is still alone!)
- between getting the buggy and visiting the Cosmo Canyon
- and so on... There are 15 battles in total.
Knowing this, it's easy to get several Vagyrisk Claws.
*Kiss of Death*
Looting from Death Dealer = 14%.
Inflicts Death on all with 67% chance per target. That's not as efficient as Odin and Remove but much better than Death + All.
*Earth Mallet*
Looting from Gigas = 14%.
The attack is pretty the same as Quake3 but it can't miss (except on targets resisting to Earth) and it ignores MBarr, Reflect and split damage.
The split is the reduction to 2/3 of the damage and the chance to inflict statuses when you give the All effect to an action.
Other items to mention
*Stardust* (like Comet2, can't miss, ignores MBarr)
You can loot one from Behemoth with 14% chance, during the Midgar sector 8 raid. Else you have to loot it from Serpent in the Gelnika, with *4%* chance, which is the worst drop rate of the game!
*Light Curtain* (Barr on all)
You can morph Corvette in Junon tunnels under the ocean, or morph Sword Dance during the Midgar raid if you come back to the HQ. Garuda in Da-Chao and Unknown in the Gelnika drop it with 10% and 5% chance.
*Lunar Curtain* (MBarr on all)
Foulander in Da-Chao and Unknown2 in the Gelnika drop it with 14% and 5% chance.
Thanks for the video. Long live to FF7.
This is so crazy I feel like ive missed out on so much
Get a life.
The most rare item for me in 7 was the Behemoth Horn at the top or near the top of the stairs in the return to Midgar/Shinra raid. I had never heard or seen it in any guides before so not long ago when I first saw someone bring it up I was like, "Whaaaat!"
Maybe there's some even MORE rare unfound items out there in the Game still!
Make your own video.
It's pretty incredible how a game can inspire people to spend time figuring out obscure stats like in this comment.
Just started my sixth playthrough of this game. Getting nostalgia vibes from 1997 as a 13 year old still. Such a magical game. Remember my first playthrough, the in-game clock started over and eventually stopped counting after reaching the maximum amount of hours again in red numbers.
This is mind blowing. when i thought i found everything and done everything I could in this game, I am looking at all these videos on thing's i never heard about.
Might I suggest checking out "4-8 Productions" on UA-cam, as well as "death_unites_us" on Twitch, (They are the same person), he's got a few records set in the game, has a few videos on the best Materia combinations possible in the game, as well as a Glitches & Oddities video that is rather lengthy. But he also has a video on the cool little side quest in Junon, that lets you get the Shinra red Submarine for the rest of the game!
Great vid. Such a good game 👍🏻
Just so you know Yuffie Conformer weapon deal max damage even with morph.
alain gaudreault Huh I never knew that. Makes me more curious about how all weapons worked in ff vii
Indeed it does. Used it to morph enemies in the sunken airship. Maxed out the speed on my characters.
I used to read the 8-Inch Cannon as Binch Cannon.
This is my favorite video of yours man. Would love additional parts for other rare items.
Kinda makes me wanna try a item only playthrough... Wonder how possible that'd be
Ghost Hands really are useful in the early game with managing your MP. The fact you get them so early really makes them a must have!
They're pretty useless later on, though - such a small amount of MP!
Justin Lenhart actually at this point, you should be making use of steal cause in the same train graveyard, those small flying enemies that cast ice on you... You can still ether' from. I get 99 of em everytime I come here & grind like crazy
Oh yes. Those Ethers sell at 750gil a pop, one of the most valuable items you can get at this stage. Though I usually get bored after farming about twenty! It's also a good place to hunt for Eligor, who has a new staff for Aeristhsthsthsth.
managing your mp? you have to be an idiot to die in the early game.
Great video. Very well narrated and edited. Very informative. Thank you!
Thanks for the videos...its been 15 years since ive played this game. Keep making videos and keep on keeping on
I'm not a professional Final Fantasy 7 player but I have owned every single item you have listed on this video
I've played this over 150 hours as a kid. Pretty sure i got them all except Nr.1 but i might be wrong since i never used throwable attack items. I had totally forgotten about those nr.3 enemies though but they look familiar when i see their move-sets. So cool when stuff from your childhood pops up from some old memory bank in your brain :D
A video on everywhere the number 7 is used in Final Fantasy VII would be cool. Been searching for one but nobody's done it before!
Sounds like your first video lol
i always had tons and tons of ghost hands and graviballs because id farm the train graveyard for the striking staff before moving on, since it let aerith actually help in some fights without using magic. graviballs were also a big part of my grand strategy for getting the beta enemy skill immediately after getting to midgar zolom. (you need to do a tiny bit of level grinding, put your entire party in the back row, inflict sadness on all of them so they take even less damage, equip elemental + fire in someone's armor to reduce the damage even further, then pelt zolom with graviballs and the items that inflict poison, when his hp gets low, he will cast beta, then take a tick of poison and die. Then you have basically fire3 + all to absolutely trounce enemies for the first third of the game!)
These videos are awesome, thanks man!!!
FF9 items list would be great to see amazing video dude
Awesome video man. You've made me want to go play this game again for the millionth time lol. Love this game.
DeathmetalIndian Thanks! I love this game too!
I know this took a long time to make.
Your video popped up on my feed out of nowhere. I haven't played ff7 in about 3 maybe 4 years. I beat it 4 time. I'm going to start up a new file in play the game again keep up the good work and hang in there. Thank you
I remember beating Jenova then heading off to fight Sephiroth, just to get Pandora's Boxed and died.
Loving these Laneface!
For the Holy Torch, you can encounter Evilheads at the Battle Square normal battle after acquiring the Highwind and Cloud rejoins the party.
What does it do? 😅
@@Jacindalau25it essentially is dispel (spelled "DeSpell" in the english version of the game) but as an item. You use it to remove positive status effects like protect or haste from a target
Nice, currently replaying the OG Ffvii for the twentieth time but this was helpful for a handful of good items. Don't forget w-item lol
Wow amazing bro good job
You say there's only a 3% chance that the Cromwell will drop the 8-inch Cannon. Well every time I fought a Cromwell and I mean every time it has dropped an 8-inch can each one of them
Then consider yourself lucky. When I was creating this/my last playthrough I didn't a single one. finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Cromwell
Same here! I got it basically every time...Especially when you destroy the entire machine with one attack/2x slash instead of singularly destroying the pieces to it.
underrated channel
may as well tell you guys the secret training ground to max the materia it's off the coast of mideel a tiny spec of land that counts as madeel to train early just keep pausing and checking the area name should be grinding 5 of those bug dudes lots of ap this is available after disc to but before disc 3 u can train early before reaching. madeel its. second only to the final dungeon area.
Done this on my second play through in '97. Good when farming All materia for gil.
Preach, a FFXIV streamer I'm fond of who did an extremely casual first time FF7 playthrough, managed to steal a Vagyrisk Claw and have it stolen in the Corel Prison without ever knowing it was a rare item. I thought back to this vid and had a laugh.
The koolest thing for me...I had no idea there was a Holy Torch item lol, thx for the vids!
Lunar and light curtains also seem to be a rare drop, but not miss-able luckily
I'm pretty sure "Vagyrisk Claw" is supposed to be "Basilisk Claw" because the effect is Petrification, which Basilisks often cause in Final Fantasy games.
you can also hope,
you encounter these enemies in battle arena in golden saucer
Awesome Vid! Makes we want to play FF7!
Thanks! Great info on #3, I didn't know you could steal a vagyrisk claw from those enemies; I was able to get 5 from cmd.grand horns at Fort Condor.
I always wonder how you can win sephiorths sword at the gold saucer and you can't use it
I think its only a copy as a gift.
I always assumed it's like a toy prize sort of like 1/35th Soldier and Sweeper items are probably meant to be action figures
My greatest achievement for me was able to master the materia to turn in for master. Arming my team with three sets of the master materia which let you cast all the magic, support and summons from a single materia.
Most of the stealing related ones are partially negated by the Knights Steal.
Once you get one just use the item dup trick to get multiples.
Vagyrisk Claw is supposed to be called Basilisk Claw, FF7's translation was really, really bad with picking up on these cultural/religious references. Other examples include Midgarsomr becoming Midgar Zolom and Sefer Sephiroth becoming Safer Sephiroth.
Wow. I just fought the Gigas enemies recently while doing a little stealing to get a few Gigas Armlets but not once did they ever drop any Earth Mallets...in fact I've never even heard of them until now!
I can see why in the original Japanese release of the game Yuffie was level 1 when she joined the party. For some steals and stuff on this list.
“Good lord why would you do that to yourself” 😂 subbed
On my next to last game I got 99 Minerva, Tough Rings, and Ziedrichs, using the W-Item glitch/and steal. This last time I forgot to sell off the few items of them I had in my inventory and blew it this time.
Vagyrisk claw. What the hell bro the percentage of getting this item you can tell that squaresoft was really really thinking out these items and putting them in particular places for a reason they thought all of this out this is another reason why this is one of the greatest games of all time. It's incredible the detail they put into everything and now we got the remix coming out and credible can't wait can't wait
8-inch cannon sounds lewd
This is fascinating but it's absolute madness, why make items that are so rare and so hard to get? Some of them such as the kiss of death come so late in the game that they are practically useless.
graviball can also be obtained through a fort condor battle right before you get the tiny bronco
Ether is the item of highest C/P level in beginning term. Without MP, hardly keep HP and attack multiple targets.
1500 Gil for one ether is quite so cheap!
all i can say is thank god for the item duplication glitch.
Do you have a top 10 list of best monsters to fight when farming AP besides bosses?
Joshua Epperson I do not but that's a good idea. I'll look into that👍🏼
Movers
thats it
Good God, I got the Earth Mallet randomly and had no idea...
Wow I have never seen a Vagyrisk before. This is crazy
The Stilvas are susceptible to Level 4 Suicide which makes very easy to morph into the item. You also never mention in this video that stealing from an enemy prevents them from dropping items.
Also, Gigas? More like Big Shoes.
BeeG SHowES!
How about the mop which can only be found at bone village. I found it while looking for the lunar harp.
june ace navarro You can buy it in junon after you get the highwind
he said items you can use in battle, not weapons.
They're all consumable items that I have never used in my life other than healing items. I think I used Hero Drinks once. Maybe.
None of these are a problem if you're willing to fight the same enemies absurd number of times..just to see what Steal, Morph and end battle drops each enemy gives. Vagyrisk claw is so easily overlooked. Hardly anyone I know who played the game would actually go back and forth to fort condor. Anyway, nice list!
Kinda funny. I used to get all of these items. Didn't know they were rare. Most sat in my items list ignored because if use them once, realize they were crap and never use them again. I hope that when ff7 remake is totally complete these items will be as rare but powerful.
Warning: None of these items is useful.
Warning: Above poster cannot into proper grammar.
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The OP are correct. Materia renders this items useless so why bother even including said items in the games?
They isn't!? 😲
They are not there is not to useful?
Incase u didnt know. To win some good amount of gp using chocobo race. Just look at their rider's color and always bet on a different color.
I think the rarest in 7 is supposedly a weapon called the Behemoth Horn for Red XIII that you can only get during the ending Shinra building/Midgar raid. I had never heard of it until quite lately.
That's a weapon, not an item. He has a video for easily missable weapons and accessories.
Barret and Cait Sith also have missable weapons, i got lucky into getting Barret ultimate weapon on my first playtrought, your party members keep telling you to not go places during the raid, but you shoul, it's like the developers intended to make you miss as much things as possible during the raid.
These items are useful in the early parts of the game but not so much later on!
Yuffies ultimate weapon makes morph deal max damage. I use it to farm source in the sunken plane.
i might be wrong most likely but some of those items you can acquire by equiping the morph materia and killing them enemies instead of droping them with a % you get it throug comand.. at least thats is how i used to farm some of those items
My old ps1 mem card got corrupted, so I lost my perfect save file. I'm currently doing another perfect save run and just like the first time, I'll be using the w-item glitch heavily lol.
I have two mastered Enemy Skill materia and I've gotten all these items--I didn't have the bestiary section of my strategy guide at the time because it's so old and worn out, and I just wanted to see if there were monsters that had duplicates of a skill (ie, Chimera/Jenova LIFE = Aqualung). So, yeah, I didn't think any of these items were "rare" at all...except the Dragon Fang. Thanks for the heads up on that one btw
Thats weird, im like a 100% sure that I know the Earth Mallet but I have never seen that Gigas enemy :o
And here i thought earth harp and desert rose were the rarest items
I've made a buster sword out of titanium. It's on my Facebook under Aquarius Fabrication. It might get showcased at a comicon soon. Thought you might appreciate seeing it as you seem to be really into it.
Which Comicon?
If ECCC I'll be going; that sounds like it'd be cool to see :)
is this the original ffvii or the steam version? nobody who does these videos says which platform
I'm so glad I started to play ff7 again on the Ps 2
Hayden Davis I'm gonna just use a save editor, the hell with this shit, lol seem so time consuming.
@@WheeledHamster ya the game is time consuming but fun to make map
Jesus, I still have nightmares how hard it is to get earth mallet and mirror. But most of these are not as hard as getting all items and weapons in FF 4. FF 4 grinding is on another level, I did it once and not doing it again.
Hey not sure if you've done this video, but how about the top 10 most difficult materia to obtain in this game. Magic Counter, Sneak Attack, those 2 are top contenders. Or another top 10: the most difficult Enemy Skills to obtain.
OmegaBlackHeart I was thinking about doing that. But I think I might just combine them all into one video. Rarest/hard to get things that I haven't mentioned already
"Added Cut" materia that is found in the snow after the snowboarding game would have to be number one. I didn't even know it existed until I watched a playthrough, and it is still very missable even if you know about it.
Only if you start adding some enthusiasm. I was falling asleep through your video. You sound bored out of your mind.
So, what we can safely say is "Just because an item is rare, doesn't mean it's useful"
Pretty useful when trying to accumulate BP (also, pop a Vaccine on the first round to nullify several of the upcoming effects). You're stuffed if the game gives you a reel with all slots as '****** you and your bag of tricks', but oh well.
you forgot RED ROSE after you kill the ultimate weapons in the sand and there is another item you get after killing the ultimate weapons under water which you trade for a item that if you tried to reach in the beging of the game but it said it was to high but the old man you talk to gets it for you!
Ruby is easy to defeat in a number of ways.
Was about to say you can fight Gigas in the Battle Square. You don’t get drops there...
How prevalent is the knowledge of unlimited tetra elemental armbands? I remember finding them in the days before the internet, despite what the Bradygames strategy guide said about them.....
You said you can't go back to the Gaea Cliffs, which is untrue. In one playthrough I did, I went back through there to see if you could re-enter the North Crater from the caldera, rather than the Highwind, like on the first visit. You can go back as many times as you want, but once you get to the top, you can't return to the crater.
Are you talking about the screen where you can fight Gigas, after Schizo and before Neo Bahamut / Jenova? I see no way to come back here after Cloud gave the Black Materia to crystalized Sephiroth, since this place is destroyed by floods and Weapons awakening. Can you give more details please? That would be interesting. All I know is if you land the ship in the Northern Crater in disc 3, that's a different place, even if the screens may look alike.
@@ErionAireTam You can get up to the rim of the crater and that's it.
Wrong
I didn't realise Cho'gath is in FF7 whoooooaaaa
Ribbon is my fav
Morph the Master tomberry, he turns into Ribbon
I CAN NEVER FIND ALL 35 TOY SOLDIERS
1/35 is the scale of the figurine, not a quantity you need.
You can get two of them in Junon, and any number as a consolation reward from the Speed Square.
But this item has no utility. Probably a canceled "quest" due to a lack of time.
I actually stole the Vagyrisk Claw from Bagrisks on my 3rd or 4th enemy encounter with them, and I was like level 50ish
Funily enough I have played this game countless times and almost never use items like this. I use a few sometimes during the Wutai mission because Yufie steels all of your materia, but that's about it. And I only use morph to get the guidebook because like I said... Items are kinda useless, and morph is a pain in the ass to get to work.
I always wondered why the elixir you find in the Northern Crater(?) is called the "Last Elixir".... 🤔
it's translation error, it's actually megalixir
I only grinded Ether from stealing on those Ghosts. i remember making a big pile of money this way.^^
Good videos man! You have a E-skilll video?? I'm looking forward to the rerelease of FF7 on Xbox and PS!
I doubt anyone cares, but I think the music really distracts from the content here. It's a bit hard to hear you over the repetitive woo sounds
Thanks for making this, I know it's tough to make vids and tougher to please everyone
Gigas enemy also spawns in gold saucer
I'm pretty sure a few of these you can purchase using BP at the battle arena.
Not in the vending machines, but yes, some of these are in the Battle Square: you can morph or steal them.
The tissue is hard to get if you're awesome
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The 8 inch cannon can ve stolen in junon when Tifa is in prison
tifa took her share of 8 inch cannons in prison
u can get dragon fangs in the cave in the village from the memories killing the green dragons i got dragon fangs several times ...
Dragons from Nibelheim drop a *Fire* Fang (Fire2 on All).
The Dragon Fang (Bolt3 on All) is indeed a rare item.
Dragon Fang is also the name of the Dragon's physical attack, that's why you remembered this Dragon.
BIG SHOESS!!
I cant believe you didn't include Sources... I mean you could have put the all in one slot but Power Source, Mind Source, etc. Are some of the best and rarest items as you can max out stats...
You can get all of the sources in the sunken galinka at anytime once you get the submarine. Very easy to get.