Derby Days episodes are so much better now that they're spending a bit more time fleshing out the culture and history of the areas before getting into the football. gives so much more context and color to understand the rivalry. keep it up!
I agree. I feel like episodes like the Sydney Derby or the old firm derby if he came back and re-did them they would be much better since there’s now more history and if he spent more time going into why it’s such a heated rivalry they would be a much better episodes
Pompey won’t spend the forthcoming 1/2 of the season at the foot of Div2 - they pull themselves up the league so when saints are back alongside them for 2025/26 this rivalry must deserve an updated version 😃
SouthSide Ultras Både du och jag vet att Djurgården är ett lallar gäng med fans som bara tittar när de vinner medan Hammarby inte bryr sig alls om fotboll. AIK däremot följer vårt lag i vått och torrt i alla idrotter. Tyvärr kan man inte säga samma sak om Bajen. Ett exempel är Hammarby ishockey
Huddinge Army hur fan bryr sig inte Hammarby om fotboll när vi har vunnit publikligan sen 2014, sen har bajen stort följe i Bandy, Handboll, boxning, basket osv.
I love how on every derby day Eli sounds like he genuinely wants to bring peace between the fan bases and make them hate each other less, but ends up pissing them off even more 😂😂
So true I love it. Though to be fair he doesn't have a favorite club himself he just enjoys the game and cultures,so trying to broker peace seems right on line with it lok
Probably most spectacularly with the Berlin Derby: a whole chunk of it is about how they don't really hate each other because they're usually experiencing opposite fortunes, but the moment they're on a level playing field by the end, the rivalry's really kicking into high gear. About the only one I've seen where the rivals generally still get along no matter what is the Milan one (and to a slightly lesser extent the Cascadia one).
There is no need for Netflix because Copa90 works for the fans, for the people. Never get them behind a freaking subscription or a paywall for chrissakes.
It was later discovered that, in fact, she was a 'lady' from Portsmyth planted in Southampton with the job of making inane comments should the opportunity arise.
@@user-jq7di9pz8m firstly there are several affluent areas on Portsea island, the city borders stretch far beyond the island, which the major area of a wider urban area of 500k residents, with many Pompey supporters among them
Being from Manchester I Knew this was a big derby but I didn’t really know the history of the cities and the passion of the fans this doc is 10/10 good to watch a big UK derby documentary outside of london/Glasgow/Manchester/Liverpool etc. This is top
Manchester and Liverpool dont have Derbys Liverpool and Everton fans hug and cry at the end of the match Man U fans travel up from Hertforshire and City fans need atmosphere pumped into the stadium
G-Light Travels HA! Your never get it back now, A Pompey building firm demolitioned it for you in 2001. You decided to move into that crappy lifeless 32k seated dome filled with plastics and Tourists. All the old scum fans from the 70s that actually cared about football and there club should ditch Staines and come and support the Mighty Pompey! We’ve got an old school Victorian Stadium that’s actually built for old school football, We are unbeaten at home in the league, And we’ve kept more home clean sheets in the league than anybody else. Pompey are an actual football club with Real hardcore old school passionate fans and a brilliant atmosphere. St Faries is shite !!!! And Saints don’t care about there fans, Pompey do care about the fans. We are an old school football club. Pompey are a real club, Southampton are just a brand and a franchise. Ditch Scummers!! Come and support the mighty Pompey.
What a strong start of Copa90 Stories. This Derby Days' production quality is next level. Hopefully you can keep up with this quality. Thank you for all the hard work, Copa90 Stories staff. One thing though, where's Eli's reaction when the match was ongoing? I always like seeing his reaction.
As a CPFC fan I went to soton for a gig recently and met some real cool guys who were Southampton fans. I asked if I'd get beaten up if I wore a Portsmouth shirt in Soton and they said no but you'd get beaten up for wearing a Soton shirt in Portsmouth and I believed them 100% 😂
@@PHTV11 Yep! Pompey fans will 100% give grief to _anyone_ in a red and white shirt. I was round Fratton Park for their first home game this season against Lincoln, the fans were calling _them_ scummers. And we now call Sunderland 'Northern Scummers'
The camera just can’t do it justice but this is one of the absolute best films I’ve seen at capturing the history and raw emotions between the cities As a rivalry it really is something special
02smitol Still, the whole dock workers strike thing seems very debatable. If it did happen then it would have probably been unearthed by now if it hasn’t already which would have concluded the debate
Nice video dude. I'm not either, but I have fond memories of Pompey fans in Bradford more than 20 years ago when they came all the way up to Bradford in numbers for the last game of the season. We could have easily beaten them, but we lost 3-1 which led to Man City going down instead. The whole crowd for both ends was singing, "Are you watching Manchester." At the final whistle, the was the usual pitch invasion. The police panicked as we ran towards each other, only for us to start shaking each other's hands. I've never seen the police look so baffled. One of my favorite football memories ever, even though my team lost. Great day.
Great documentary. I grew up between the cities. Went to school in Portsmoth. Still got family there, but I've lived in Southampton for the last 20 years, so I know both cities pretty well. Portsmouths is a more working class city. It's got more energy, but it's also the place where you're likely to get the shit kicked out of you by a drunk sailor looking for trouble on a Saturday night. Southamptons more relaxed and a little more middle class. Full of students. Or at least most of the areas I know are. But being relaxed is fine by me and it's simply a nicer place to live.
Good comment. I live in Poole but have worked a lot in Southampton and when I was studying lived around Portsmouth for 3 years. I love the Portsmouth people, they are a good laugh but they do get aggressive quickly, you have to watch what you say more. Southampton people on the other hand are more like people from Poole, they're more west country like, more relaxed but can very aggressive if you push them too far. That's of course only a generalisation but it's what I've found being in both cities.
Kinda similar experience but up to a point. As an immigrant with an outside perspective, portsmouth does have that working class feel and soton seems more middle class and chill, but southampton's, well, slums are waaaay worse than portsmouth ones. Possibly due the fact that Southampton is flooded with immigrants, either way the area near the stadium, literally called st Mary's, is, well... if you don't speak polish or Arabic just don't go there at night. And I grew up in the 90s in poland, near Ukraine, so for me to say an area is rough takes a lot so to speak.
@@aw2584 I lived a little way north of there near Derby Road for most of the ''90s. The program "immigration street" was filmed just round the corner from me, and I hardly had any problems. But that was before most of the Eastern European immigration. I'd also suspect you haven't interacted with most of the locals - since a lot of the asians in the area are hindus or sikhs and wouldn't know arabic any better than you do (and even the muslim ones would mostly speak Punjabi as a first language)
Can't say much about how that area was in the 90s since I was born '93, but I'm assuming it changed as much as a neighbourhood can in, well, 30 years. From dealers openly giving you their business cards on the street (although that does happen in the city centre as well to be fair), prostitutes asking if you're 'looking for business, gets rather violent too. As for the Arabic part, my choice for uni was to study Arabic language in Krakow so maybe I've noticed it more simply because I recognised it. It has been few years since I moved out of the good old st Mary's and since then I experienced living around portswood, woolston, shirley and lovely Millbrook but no area was able to provide even 1/10 of the shenanigans derby road area did indeed. Just to put things into perspective keep in mind that since the 90s Southampton went from having very few poles living in it to having over 10% of its population speaking polish as their native tongue, and that's just one group, by adding Romanians, Bulgarians, Slovakian, Czechs, Lithuanians etc. To the mix you can safely assume that area, or any area of soton for that matter, is pretty much unrecognizable from what it was back in the days.
I went to fratton a couple of years ago with Grimsby Town, must admit every pompey fan we spoke to was sound. Me and my mates all agreed it was the best atmosphere we've seen across any ground in England. UTM
This is by far one of the best sports documentaries I've seen. As a West Ham fan i found myself resonating so much with Pompey. So many similarities yet totally different! Loved it 👏
Wow a passionate Chelsea fan for 50 years and to get so emotional over a football documentary not involving your own club was something else, well done mate what a video.
Every time we played down at Portsmouth from 97 to 2001 they were on their knees financially but boy did they get behind their team. Cracking ground even though we lost every time there.
I love how proud the old school Portsmouth fans were bragging about traveling to away games and getting into fights. Those accomplishments probably meant as much to them as Portsmouth wins.
As a local this rivalry is everywhere u can’t escape it the whole county is gripped by it. Btw this documentary nailed it for sure. Everyone In Portsmouth supports Pompey and is connected to the navy.
@@yofinance1777 Hampshire is the third largest Shire County in England. With a population of over 1.3 million people. The largest County in South East England. Portsmouth International Ferry Port is the second busiest in the UK after Dover. Handing over 3 million passengers a year.
@@yofinance1777 Our derby still has meaning to it though, so many 'big' derby days in this country have sunk to just a disliking. You won't find two entire cities that hate each other more than us and those webbed feet inbreds down in pompey.
I spent 6 fantastic years in Pompey, working in the Dockyard. I'm MUFC, but I always enjoyed going to Fratton Park when the chance arose. 657 was a thing in my day there, 1996- 2002. Looking forward to this one mush.
I'm a 58 year old Oxford United fan and as a young boy it was always Portsmouth never mind Swindon! And always had a laugh against Pompey a great day out! Back then we all seemed like supermen but now we are struggling to get our Grand kids to support our local teams! Fair play Portsmouth and Southampton!
cheers from belgium, my local football club (Waregem) did an cooperation with portsmouth back in 2008. this club is the definition of football. much respect!
Portsmouth and Southampton are the two most densely populated cities outside of certain London boroughs. Pompey is an island, but Soton is a peninsula between two rivers so has similar issues with space.
Southampton (as the old town) is on a peninsular (between the Itchen and Test rivers) Whereas today its a much larger city so many entances and exits unlike portsmouth (an island) with only 3 ways in/out by road 1 way by train 2 ways by sea Its a dead end town
@@NQY-flyer Portsmouth council area includes areas on the mainland north of Portsea Island (Cosham) and, let's be honest, Gosport is Portsmouth too. I'm from Hythe/Totton, and consider myself from Southampton. Eastleigh and Hedge End often get included as Southampton too, so we can count Gosport and Portchester (both around Portsmouth Harbour) and maybe even Fareham as blue.
@@8964TS Let's not count Fareham as blue, I'm from there!🤣 Portsmouth is Portsmouth though, not so sure about the council area like Cosham being included tho idk.
@@8964TS I am from Romsey but grew up in Eastleigh, and it's definitely not Southampton. If you went to what was then Ten Acres (Eastleigh FC) they had a Pompey pennant above the bar as you walked into the clubhouse. The 1.05 train to Fratton from Eastleigh on a Saturday when Pompey were at home was packed and a few more got on at Botley, which is also Eastleigh. Sure, there are more non Pompey fans in Eastleigh but to say it's a red town is way off the mark
Pompey was always a good run ashore back in the 80s. Great documentary, well made, the presenter digs deep into the psyche of the British working class. Couldn't immagine the sneering BBC doing an indepth documentary like this, it would be way beyond their understanding.
This is by far the best series on UA-cam, the insight and dedication that the whole team along with Eli put into this derbies in amazing. It's great pleasure to learn about the teams and derbies we rarely or never hear about. As a football aficionado I could watch these series for days and still wouldn't get bored. Keep up the great work Eli and I would invite you to visit Slovenia for "Eternal Derby" between Olimpija and Maribor 👍😉
Another superb, in-depth film from Copa 90. I bet a lot of people outside Britain aren't really aware of how intense this one is. Great interviews as ever from Eli.
Great job showing both sides of the story, and brave standing up for the other side in both camps. I’m a saints fan with a Pompey fan as a good mate of mine which comes with a lot of banter
First mob I ever see was in new cross at a Millwall game 90/91 season. I was about 10 years old and going to the game with my uncle, you could tell it was going off you could smell it in the air back then 🤷🏻♂️ then out of no where I see a pub full surrounded by police, Millwall on the pavement on one side and Pompey in the pub itching to get out!! I said to my uncle who is who He said that is Pompey in the pub better know as the 6.57 crew. I was hook from that day on. They turn up in big numbers and early. From that day I realise it’s more then a game of football 🦁
Pompey fan from Chicago, went on vacation to England once and saw a Pompey game, was just blown away by the passion of the fans, if we ever play the scummers again in the league I’m gonna go back
Great to see the series grow from 10-15 min videos to hour long documentaries, it can only get better from here, keep it up guys, I’m sure your viewers appreciate the effort put into this!
These docs are an incredible window into UK and European football for fans like myself in North America. Some of the best work being done right now on the sport.
Love the content. I've lived in Pompey all my life and am proud to live here. There's rough parts but it's nothing compared to crap areas throughout the rest of the country.
TR17 i’m sure many of the people they interviewed probably told them not to mention him. we hate him and hate that he’s always shown as the face of our fan base by the media
Fuckoff with your jealousy. Westwood may be controversial but he’s Pompey’s best supporter. He’s followed them for a stupid amount of time and he’s not a nonce at all. I don’t think people realise the repercussions of saying such things too. You’re proper clowns honestly.
@@PompeyDan95 he smells, sings homophobic racist and sexist chants. Hangs around with genuine sex offenders (convicted). Has a superiority complex over other fans and cant tolerate different opinions to his own. Danny he is not an asset in anyway to the club and shows us up everywhere we go.
Great documentary,, fratton park was the first ever football stadium I visited as a kid on a school trip and we got to play on the pitch and do a full stadium tour and it’s still very clear in my mind I was blown away by it then I visited st.James’s park which is an impressive stadium then I went to my club of Liverpool’s football stadium anfeild and yes that’s my club it’s my stadium in my heart but fratton park as a kid really did stand out for some reason. 💯👍😁
This is probably one of my favorite episodes. Love the myths that the two clubs base their rivalry on. Can you guys post the song playlists you use for your videos?
This is probably the fifth time I watch this one. I think actually I watched every episode at least three times. I hope so much for an end of the pandemic and new COPA 90 videos, please keep this amazing work going if this shit is finally over...
I'm from Essex and FULL RESPECT to the people of Portsmouth...... Been down there before and worked with people from Pompey and they're probably the most down to earth people I've ever meet. People don't fully appreciate that Pompey is a city founded on WAR. Don't go down there looking for trouble, trust me. You think you're hard because you come from from where ever. Before a fight, many people down there can honestly look you in the eye and say, "look mate I'm ex para, special forces, army, navy etc you still wanna go dancing??????" Full respect to P.Tubbsy (from the village of "Stubbington") and "Stu Pot" you know who you are. Top, top people.
I'm high as fuck and for 12 minutes i thought that's a documentary about pompy. It was a small documentary on itself. This guy is making small documentaries within big documentaries. I'm hooked :)
As an Ipswich fan, I think it would be amazing to see a club like Portsmouth get back to the Championship this season. We both know the feeling of spending ages in a league below where we should be (even longer for Pompey). Good luck to you guys and if Saints don’t go up, the derby is really gonna light up the league!
I remember going to Pompey V stains in about '94 I think it was for our keeper Alan Knight's testimonial. A friendly, the night ended up in a pitch invasion, running battles around the ground and the city and cars set on fire. At a testimonial! That's the sort of depth of the rivalry. Supporting Pompey is an absolute emotional rollercoaster from the depths of despair to the height of triumph and everything in between. You never know what's next. Supporting stains is about all the excitement of wandering round IKEA on a Sunday afternoon.
I went to that game, I am a Southampton but I went with a few Pompey fans so I went in the Pompey end. I just remember poor Alan Knight having to go over the tannoy begging the Pompey fans to get off the pitch as the Policing bill was coming out of his pocket. The idiots on the pitch didnt seem to care. Sadly a few years after he went bankrupt, I hope those "fans" felt pretty shitty knowing they had cost him a fortune.
I was born and raised in Southampton. We used to live in Coxford. One of our neighbours threw a stone at our window even though there were no problems between us. Thankfully we had double glazing so not too much damage was done. Burnt out cars were common in the area. You couldn't play basketball in the court because the ground would be covered in broken glass. Passing through Milbrook and Lordshill on the bus, more than once someone would throw stones at the bus window, smashing it. We moved to Norwich in 2008 and things are way more chill.
Derby Days episodes are so much better now that they're spending a bit more time fleshing out the culture and history of the areas before getting into the football.
gives so much more context and color to understand the rivalry. keep it up!
shmickpingo1 after River- Boca they've gone on different level
shmickpingo1 I want them to go back and do some of the Derby’s they’ve already done in this level of detail
there's a great interview of Eli Mengem by Tifo Podcast where he touches on this ua-cam.com/video/LdnISS5r3aI/v-deo.html
I agree. I feel like episodes like the Sydney Derby or the old firm derby if he came back and re-did them they would be much better since there’s now more history and if he spent more time going into why it’s such a heated rivalry they would be a much better episodes
spot on. agreed
man's actually out here making ethnographic documentaries disguised as sports journalism, you really love to see it
Great comment.
Well football is so intertwined with local culture, especially in England, it would be impossible not to.
Don’t like it don’t watch it
@@PAFC1886 The man literally said “love to see it”
I love the energy. Some people (d*heads) would turn their noses up at Fratton Park. He embraced it. Good man.
It’s tradition to watch this every once in a while
Indeed
😂
It’s no doubt the best Derby Days video they’ve done in my opinion.
Pompey won’t spend the forthcoming 1/2 of the season at the foot of Div2 - they pull themselves up the league so when saints are back alongside them for 2025/26 this rivalry must deserve an updated version 😃
Eli is probably the best presenter out there. Adds so much passion and depth to the videos.
good joke, cringe worthy statements and can barely string a sentence together- like an Aussie Danny Dyer
SouthSide Ultras Passion is something that does not exist in Hammarby 90% bondebajen
Huddinge Army no we just had 20k average attendence in the 2nd league while djurgården barely gets 13k to 1st league games.
SouthSide Ultras Både du och jag vet att Djurgården är ett lallar gäng med fans som bara tittar när de vinner medan Hammarby inte bryr sig alls om fotboll.
AIK däremot följer vårt lag i vått och torrt i alla idrotter.
Tyvärr kan man inte säga samma sak om Bajen.
Ett exempel är Hammarby ishockey
Huddinge Army hur fan bryr sig inte Hammarby om fotboll när vi har vunnit publikligan sen 2014, sen har bajen stort följe i Bandy, Handboll, boxning, basket osv.
I love how on every derby day Eli sounds like he genuinely wants to bring peace between the fan bases and make them hate each other less, but ends up pissing them off even more 😂😂
So true I love it. Though to be fair he doesn't have a favorite club himself he just enjoys the game and cultures,so trying to broker peace seems right on line with it lok
CODandMonster he’s a qpr fan
loooool
Millwall v westham that's the big big derby south coast derby crap
Probably most spectacularly with the Berlin Derby: a whole chunk of it is about how they don't really hate each other because they're usually experiencing opposite fortunes, but the moment they're on a level playing field by the end, the rivalry's really kicking into high gear. About the only one I've seen where the rivals generally still get along no matter what is the Milan one (and to a slightly lesser extent the Cascadia one).
How does this guy not have a Netflix series?? This is some QUALITY content!
He does in America just to take the piss
Netflix are for the lost ones, pedowood and subcultures are dragotary that's why we live In mentally ill times
There is no need for Netflix because Copa90 works for the fans, for the people.
Never get them behind a freaking subscription or a paywall for chrissakes.
Yeah then pay for it. Good idea
This must be the best football-fanculture documentary i’ve seen in my entire life.
It was later discovered that, in fact, she was a 'lady' from Portsmyth planted in Southampton with the job of making inane comments should the opportunity arise.
@paul Jobs Devastating repartee...
Cant wait for an hour of Derby Days goodness
This doc is absolutely excellent. Genuinely so so good. Not even a Southampton or Portsmouth supporter.
Absolutely. Great comment.
it's not a very accurate portrayal of the area as a whole
@@stuartb6827 what dya mean?
@@user-jq7di9pz8m firstly there are several affluent areas on Portsea island, the city borders stretch far beyond the island, which the major area of a wider urban area of 500k residents, with many Pompey supporters among them
@@stuartb6827fareham being one of them
Being from Manchester I Knew this was a big derby but I didn’t really know the history of the cities and the passion of the fans this doc is 10/10 good to watch a big UK derby documentary outside of london/Glasgow/Manchester/Liverpool etc. This is top
I m so sorry for you..
Manchester and Liverpool dont have Derbys
Liverpool and Everton fans hug and cry at the end of the match
Man U fans travel up from Hertforshire and City fans need atmosphere pumped into the stadium
Tbh it's more of a derby than arsenal Tottenham
@@gavinlittle9376 Nah arsenal Tottenham is a proper football derby
@@Harold16581 haha two worst sets of fans in the league silent for 90 minutes will only sing in injury time if they're winning. It's a shit derby
Eli: "So why did you like the Old Dell?"
Saints fan: "You had a restricted view, you had a big pillar in the way, you couldn't see the match"
Samuel Haye lol tbf these identikit 30k new 1-tier bowls are soulless
Tbh it's better than seeing his team getting destroyed 9-0
Happy days. Can't stand modern stadia and I have no interest in top-flight football
The old Dell was f**king awesome, small, crap facilities but cracking atmosphere with the fans really close to the pitch. Miss that place!!
G-Light Travels
HA! Your never get it back now,
A Pompey building firm demolitioned it for you in 2001.
You decided to move into that crappy lifeless 32k seated dome filled with plastics and Tourists.
All the old scum fans from the 70s that actually cared about football and there club should ditch Staines and come and support the Mighty Pompey!
We’ve got an old school Victorian Stadium that’s actually built for old school football,
We are unbeaten at home in the league,
And we’ve kept more home clean sheets in the league than anybody else.
Pompey are an actual football club with Real hardcore old school passionate fans and a brilliant atmosphere.
St Faries is shite !!!!
And Saints don’t care about there fans,
Pompey do care about the fans.
We are an old school football club.
Pompey are a real club,
Southampton are just a brand and a franchise.
Ditch Scummers!!
Come and support the mighty Pompey.
This is the most earthly bunch of characters I've ever seen interviewed. Magic. Absolutely awesome
What a strong start of Copa90 Stories. This Derby Days' production quality is next level. Hopefully you can keep up with this quality. Thank you for all the hard work, Copa90 Stories staff.
One thing though, where's Eli's reaction when the match was ongoing? I always like seeing his reaction.
He probably couldn't get a ticket
Either couldnt get a ticket or sponsorship rights from the club
Having lived in the Hampshire area there is no comparison. People in Portsmouth are absolutely nuts.
Go to milbrook Southampton or thorn hill Southampton
@@leoedsall8932 everyone pompey turn up they run off
As a CPFC fan I went to soton for a gig recently and met some real cool guys who were Southampton fans. I asked if I'd get beaten up if I wore a Portsmouth shirt in Soton and they said no but you'd get beaten up for wearing a Soton shirt in Portsmouth and I believed them 100% 😂
@@PHTV11 Yep! Pompey fans will 100% give grief to _anyone_ in a red and white shirt. I was round Fratton Park for their first home game this season against Lincoln, the fans were calling _them_ scummers. And we now call Sunderland 'Northern Scummers'
They are a Poor Man’s Millwall
The camera just can’t do it justice but this is one of the absolute best films I’ve seen at capturing the history and raw emotions between the cities
As a rivalry it really is something special
“The papers don’t lie” weird phrase from any person let alone a football fan
Papers as in historical documents not newspapers
02smitol Still, the whole dock workers strike thing seems very debatable. If it did happen then it would have probably been unearthed by now if it hasn’t already which would have concluded the debate
Fucking lot of em are drongos mate. PortsMYTH
tory comment
@@TwixtorSettings cheers mate, thanks for the input
"Derby Days" makes me happy that I've an internet connection.
Nice video dude. I'm not either, but I have fond memories of Pompey fans in Bradford more than 20 years ago when they came all the way up to Bradford in numbers for the last game of the season. We could have easily beaten them, but we lost 3-1 which led to Man City going down instead. The whole crowd for both ends was singing, "Are you watching Manchester." At the final whistle, the was the usual pitch invasion. The police panicked as we ran towards each other, only for us to start shaking each other's hands. I've never seen the police look so baffled. One of my favorite football memories ever, even though my team lost. Great day.
This series just gets better and better, fantastic, well worth the wait
Starts video on phone, "sees its 55 mins"
Casts to tv immediately
Same 😁
Same
@@jb894 Bet you got salty at the trickle down economics comment judging from your name.
@@Zack_410 only worms like you get salty over people's comments
Same
"The skates! You call them skates?! No! I call them c**ts!'' What a savage😂
Fun fact: that savage is my uncle lol
- Its a tough city ..
- well, meet my wife and youll find out
lol
Great documentary.
I grew up between the cities. Went to school in Portsmoth. Still got family there, but I've lived in Southampton for the last 20 years, so I know both cities pretty well.
Portsmouths is a more working class city. It's got more energy, but it's also the place where you're likely to get the shit kicked out of you by a drunk sailor looking for trouble on a Saturday night.
Southamptons more relaxed and a little more middle class. Full of students. Or at least most of the areas I know are. But being relaxed is fine by me and it's simply a nicer place to live.
Finally a comment where someone’s not trynna claim one city’s better than the other
Good comment. I live in Poole but have worked a lot in Southampton and when I was studying lived around Portsmouth for 3 years.
I love the Portsmouth people, they are a good laugh but they do get aggressive quickly, you have to watch what you say more. Southampton people on the other hand are more like people from Poole, they're more west country like, more relaxed but can very aggressive if you push them too far. That's of course only a generalisation but it's what I've found being in both cities.
Kinda similar experience but up to a point. As an immigrant with an outside perspective, portsmouth does have that working class feel and soton seems more middle class and chill, but southampton's, well, slums are waaaay worse than portsmouth ones. Possibly due the fact that Southampton is flooded with immigrants, either way the area near the stadium, literally called st Mary's, is, well... if you don't speak polish or Arabic just don't go there at night. And I grew up in the 90s in poland, near Ukraine, so for me to say an area is rough takes a lot so to speak.
@@aw2584 I lived a little way north of there near Derby Road for most of the ''90s. The program "immigration street" was filmed just round the corner from me, and I hardly had any problems. But that was before most of the Eastern European immigration. I'd also suspect you haven't interacted with most of the locals - since a lot of the asians in the area are hindus or sikhs and wouldn't know arabic any better than you do (and even the muslim ones would mostly speak Punjabi as a first language)
Can't say much about how that area was in the 90s since I was born '93, but I'm assuming it changed as much as a neighbourhood can in, well, 30 years. From dealers openly giving you their business cards on the street (although that does happen in the city centre as well to be fair), prostitutes asking if you're 'looking for business, gets rather violent too. As for the Arabic part, my choice for uni was to study Arabic language in Krakow so maybe I've noticed it more simply because I recognised it. It has been few years since I moved out of the good old st Mary's and since then I experienced living around portswood, woolston, shirley and lovely Millbrook but no area was able to provide even 1/10 of the shenanigans derby road area did indeed.
Just to put things into perspective keep in mind that since the 90s Southampton went from having very few poles living in it to having over 10% of its population speaking polish as their native tongue, and that's just one group, by adding Romanians, Bulgarians, Slovakian, Czechs, Lithuanians etc. To the mix you can safely assume that area, or any area of soton for that matter, is pretty much unrecognizable from what it was back in the days.
Amazing. I'm from Southampton, sadly I had to do some work at times in Portsmouth. You guys hit the nail on the head with this.
I went to fratton a couple of years ago with Grimsby Town, must admit every pompey fan we spoke to was sound.
Me and my mates all agreed it was the best atmosphere we've seen across any ground in England. UTM
Phil Bourn great set of fans you’ve got, good luck for the season
You've never been to Elland Road then?
Leeds1919 even if he has, Pompey still better ;)
@@iTzzzMMMAAAXXXX to be fair lad, I haven't. Fingers crossed for a cup draw XD
Up the mariners
The papers don't lie!!
The Sun: 😂
The guardian
Daily mail
Independent
Lol
@@AliG-yu2bn Egh, I'd say The Guardian is a bit more trustworthy.
@@theobuniel9643 Absolutely not anymore.
@@theobuniel9643 not anymore
The Mail, The Guardian, The Independamt... fucking all of them.
This is by far one of the best sports documentaries I've seen. As a West Ham fan i found myself resonating so much with Pompey. So many similarities yet totally different! Loved it 👏
Chelsea bigger arsenal even better, good luck in overtaking them
@@mamindhive Who could possibly give a fuck
Portsmouth is full of inbreds
Idk why you’d wanna associate with those skates, lying scabs the lot of them
Portsmouth are the most toxic fanbase going.Bunvh of backwards fish fondlers
Feels like you just took Derby Days to another level. Loved that you mixed it up with a little bit slower pace compared to the superclasico one.
This is absolutely fantastic. Deserving of an award.
Wow a passionate Chelsea fan for 50 years and to get so emotional over a football documentary not involving your own club was something else, well done mate what a video.
Wasteful 50 years on circus
I LOVE watching the Derby Days series when I first discovering it :D
I'm so happy that it's back :D
Every time we played down at Portsmouth from 97 to 2001 they were on their knees financially but boy did they get behind their team. Cracking ground even though we lost every time there.
Only in Portsmouth could you become a living legend by biting off noses and ears during your fifteenth fight of the day. What a sweet old chap.
Lmao!!!
I love how proud the old school Portsmouth fans were bragging about traveling to away games and getting into fights. Those accomplishments probably meant as much to them as Portsmouth wins.
Not just Pompey. All the firms just wanted to fight each other back then. They didn't really care about the football
Thats because they never been any good at football,all the fans do is cause trouble
To be fair, he doesn't have many pompey wins to look back on
Proud of starting fights. There similar to Millwall>No one likes them
@@georgelane6350: Pompey have been champions of every league. And won the FA Cup twice. And have been in 5 FA Cup Finals.
That Pompey fan with the flag reminds of Kurtan off ‘In the Country’ slightly 😂, seems like a sound bloke in fairness
Yer that's basically Portsmouth.
Seems like the opposite of a sound bloke
As a local this rivalry is everywhere u can’t escape it the whole county is gripped by it. Btw this documentary nailed it for sure. Everyone In Portsmouth supports Pompey and is connected to the navy.
Reality is when you leave little Hampshire you realise no one gives a shit and there are multiple rivalries that are bigger. Very small
@@yofinance1777 Hampshire is the third largest Shire County in England. With a population of over 1.3 million people. The largest County in South East England. Portsmouth International Ferry Port is the second busiest in the UK after Dover. Handing over 3 million passengers a year.
@@yofinance1777 Our derby still has meaning to it though, so many 'big' derby days in this country have sunk to just a disliking. You won't find two entire cities that hate each other more than us and those webbed feet inbreds down in pompey.
“Portsmouth owes its very existence to aggression”
“Tony he’s crying”
David P 😂😂thought that’s what he said 🤣
I live in Portsmouth ! #fact
@@Bexks same
I'm from Portsmouth born nd bread we more then just violence dick head
@@pisstakecentral do u live in portsmouth dude nd also if not how would u know lol
I love this new long format!
This is my favourite Derby Days episode. Just brilliant.
I spent 6 fantastic years in Pompey, working in the Dockyard.
I'm MUFC, but I always enjoyed going to Fratton Park when the chance arose.
657 was a thing in my day there, 1996- 2002.
Looking forward to this one mush.
I'm a 58 year old Oxford United fan and as a young boy it was always Portsmouth never mind Swindon! And always had a laugh against Pompey
a great day out! Back then we all seemed like supermen but now we are struggling to get our Grand kids to support our local teams!
Fair play Portsmouth and Southampton!
💛💙👍🤛COYY....SMHS 😊
cheers from belgium, my local football club (Waregem) did an cooperation with portsmouth back in 2008. this club is the definition of football. much respect!
“What’s a skate?”
“It’s a fish”
“It’s a type of fish?”
“No, it is a fish”
Ok
WHAT TYPE OF SKATE?
now you know that women was from southampton
Red army 😇🔴⚪
it obviously means fish
@@oak1739 skate is slang for seaman.
Portsmouth and Southampton are the two most densely populated cities outside of certain London boroughs. Pompey is an island, but Soton is a peninsula between two rivers so has similar issues with space.
Southampton (as the old town) is on a peninsular (between the Itchen and Test rivers) Whereas today its a much larger city so many entances and exits unlike portsmouth (an island) with only 3 ways in/out by road 1 way by train 2 ways by sea Its a dead end town
@@NQY-flyer Portsmouth council area includes areas on the mainland north of Portsea Island (Cosham) and, let's be honest, Gosport is Portsmouth too. I'm from Hythe/Totton, and consider myself from Southampton. Eastleigh and Hedge End often get included as Southampton too, so we can count Gosport and Portchester (both around Portsmouth Harbour) and maybe even Fareham as blue.
@@8964TS Let's not count Fareham as blue, I'm from there!🤣 Portsmouth is Portsmouth though, not so sure about the council area like Cosham being included tho idk.
@@8964TS Nah theres loads of Saints fans in Fareham, i lived there
@@8964TS I am from Romsey but grew up in Eastleigh, and it's definitely not Southampton. If you went to what was then Ten Acres (Eastleigh FC) they had a Pompey pennant above the bar as you walked into the clubhouse. The 1.05 train to Fratton from Eastleigh on a Saturday when Pompey were at home was packed and a few more got on at Botley, which is also Eastleigh. Sure, there are more non Pompey fans in Eastleigh but to say it's a red town is way off the mark
Pompey was always a good run ashore back in the 80s. Great documentary, well made, the presenter digs deep into the psyche of the British working class. Couldn't immagine the sneering BBC doing an indepth documentary like this, it would be way beyond their understanding.
They tried to do their “inside out” documentary where they don’t actually go into the info
This is by far the best series on UA-cam, the insight and dedication that the whole team along with Eli put into this derbies in amazing. It's great pleasure to learn about the teams and derbies we rarely or never hear about. As a football aficionado I could watch these series for days and still wouldn't get bored. Keep up the great work Eli and I would invite you to visit Slovenia for "Eternal Derby" between Olimpija and Maribor 👍😉
Bi blo fajn ja videt to ja :) Ampak se mi zdi da ne delajo več Derby Daysov...
Loved it. This program is the best and going local was a great idea after the Superclasico one.
Long live Derby Days
Lived in Southampton,worked in Pompey great seeing both sides. This pretty much is spot on. Great documentary Eli and team
This was the best Derby Days by far! Goodness me!
Another superb, in-depth film from Copa 90. I bet a lot of people outside Britain aren't really aware of how intense this one is. Great interviews as ever from Eli.
Great job showing both sides of the story, and brave standing up for the other side in both camps. I’m a saints fan with a Pompey fan as a good mate of mine which comes with a lot of banter
Another class video. Been to pompey with Derby before but was fascinating to learn more about their background and quirks. Greats fans.
First mob I ever see was in new cross at a Millwall game 90/91 season. I was about 10 years old and going to the game with my uncle, you could tell it was going off you could smell it in the air back then 🤷🏻♂️ then out of no where I see a pub full surrounded by police, Millwall on the pavement on one side and Pompey in the pub itching to get out!! I said to my uncle who is who He said that is Pompey in the pub better know as the 6.57 crew. I was hook from that day on. They turn up in big numbers and early. From that day I realise it’s more then a game of football 🦁
Pompey fan from Chicago, went on vacation to England once and saw a Pompey game, was just blown away by the passion of the fans, if we ever play the scummers again in the league I’m gonna go back
Thousands of saints fans in the states vs a few dozen Pompey. Levels. USA is red 🔴⚪️🔴⚪️🔴
@@eliwrathall2507 up the fucking saints 🔴⚪️
@@eliwrathall2507 is there a link between new orleans and Southampton due to both being called saints?
@@samuelpinder1215 no at all, but thanks to the names we’ve picked up a load of fans from NO
Great to see the series grow from 10-15 min videos to hour long documentaries, it can only get better from here, keep it up guys, I’m sure your viewers appreciate the effort put into this!
Great documentary from Copa 90. Really nailed it. The south coast derby is so fierce and rarely played people don’t appreciate it
This was fantastically done, absolutely one of the best sports documentaries I have seen. And come on you Saints!
Basic amature journalism talking to dimwits for
Dimwits.kids tv .
These docs are an incredible window into UK and European football for fans like myself in North America. Some of the best work being done right now on the sport.
Never been so happy to see 55 minutes on the thumbnail
I got goosebumps when i heard Blue Monday song, those video are fantastic.
20:05 "cruises" - shows a red funnel ferry to the Isle of Wight
GATEWAY TO THE WORLD/]?
Isle of Wight = Pile of Shite.
As an islander that did make me laugh. In and out both pompey and soton frequently. Love em both for their own reasons tbh.
Best job I ever had working a Fratton Park, Kiosk staff for the home side obviously. The fans are great and the atmosphere was electric
You are making great, insightful snapshots of the unique communities, sport just happens to be the background. Absolutely love it.
Another classic by Eli, and the team. That's for this bit. Learned a lot more about Portsmouth that I had no idea bout before.
Love the content. I've lived in Pompey all my life and am proud to live here. There's rough parts but it's nothing compared to crap areas throughout the rest of the country.
These documentaries are getting better and better ,really well made.
Two proud cities ,and proud of their history and clubs.
What a hardy old man that was 🍻🏴
It is probably the best video you did for months. Great! Keep on going please. The last months were really upsets
This is why i like english football , its by far the best football on the planet... greets from Utrecht, the Netherlands 🤝👏
I’d love to see a Black Country derby episode if WBA go up this year
Same cuz we all know its gonna happen
I am a Newcastle fan, but my good mate is a wolves fan, went to wolves vs baggies a few year ago, good derby.
@@davidvasey5065 yeah or we could re-do the last time we played at the custard bowl? 1-5 wasn't it...
12torooney wba = the toilet bowl
@@davidvasey5065 Aged well
Got to say, this new longer format is SO GOOD. I really enjoyed this. Top job.
These actually made me start watching soccer, as a drunk American who doesn’t know what’s going on, I’d love so see one of these Live!!
Finally Copa90. This is what we all want to see!
Excelent video I love english football⚽ saludos desde México 🇲🇽
As a Chelsea fan this doc educated me a lot , very good episode
Lived in Pompey for three years. Believe me, the hatred is REAL!!
What I love about Portsmouth is that it's a city with Character.
Shame it didn't show the nice areas because they are stunning
Hologramix 1 which areas 🤷🏻♂️it’s a shit hole .
There aren’t any nice areas
Gunwharf, Drayton, Cosham, etc
Pompey God
Cosham is A Council Estate.
Pompey God
Cosham is Council.
Great documentary, could have mentioned Pompey John and also a post match reaction of fans.
TR17 i’m sure many of the people they interviewed probably told them not to mention him. we hate him and hate that he’s always shown as the face of our fan base by the media
Hes a noncey attention seeker complete embarrassment to the club
Fuckoff with your jealousy. Westwood may be controversial but he’s Pompey’s best supporter. He’s followed them for a stupid amount of time and he’s not a nonce at all. I don’t think people realise the repercussions of saying such things too. You’re proper clowns honestly.
@@PompeyDan95 doub t you've been to enough games to see what he's really like.
@@PompeyDan95 he smells, sings homophobic racist and sexist chants. Hangs around with genuine sex offenders (convicted). Has a superiority complex over other fans and cant tolerate different opinions to his own. Danny he is not an asset in anyway to the club and shows us up everywhere we go.
Great documentary,, fratton park was the first ever football stadium I visited as a kid on a school trip and we got to play on the pitch and do a full stadium tour and it’s still very clear in my mind I was blown away by it then I visited st.James’s park which is an impressive stadium then I went to my club of Liverpool’s football stadium anfeild and yes that’s my club it’s my stadium in my heart but fratton park as a kid really did stand out for some reason. 💯👍😁
Brilliant video, very educational regarding history of the two cities. Thumbs up!
Phenomenal episode guys, love the time put into these videos to really point out the culture of the areas and the roots of the rivalry 10/10
This is probably one of my favorite episodes. Love the myths that the two clubs base their rivalry on. Can you guys post the song playlists you use for your videos?
Well the only song they use is blue Monday new order
@@JamesYoungg no, there's a FIFA soundtrack song at the very beginning and another techno sounding one later, as well.
@@sloveniesta can't you use shazam?
@@sloveniesta 1st Track is Slowdive - Star Roving
Daredevil 1142 the one at the start is from a band called Slowdive, shoegaze band
This is probably the fifth time I watch this one. I think actually I watched every episode at least three times. I hope so much for an end of the pandemic and new COPA 90 videos, please keep this amazing work going if this shit is finally over...
I'm at a minute and I love it. Copa90;. what a job!👌🙏
I'm from Essex and FULL RESPECT to the people of Portsmouth......
Been down there before and worked with people from Pompey and they're probably the most down to earth people I've ever meet. People don't fully appreciate that Pompey is a city founded on WAR. Don't go down there looking for trouble, trust me. You think you're hard because you come from from where ever. Before a fight, many people down there can honestly look you in the eye and say, "look mate I'm ex para, special forces, army, navy etc you still wanna go dancing??????"
Full respect to P.Tubbsy (from the village of "Stubbington") and "Stu Pot" you know who you are. Top, top people.
This is a quality football documentary. Well researched and full of interesting perspectives.
These episodes are more history class than football. I love it!
Football is history. 🇰🇪
Eli is such a brilliant host - such a good episode
I'm high as fuck and for 12 minutes i thought that's a documentary about pompy. It was a small documentary on itself. This guy is making small documentaries within big documentaries. I'm hooked :)
Agreed. Great comment.
I just simply dont understand how you can get all of your content absolutely outstanding! Well done man!
Brilliant, absolutely brilliant. There is life in Copa 90 after all.
Just started but Im totally loving these deep dives into football history.
I would love to have been born and raised in pompey. It seems like such a fantastic city. Also pompey dots are awesome.
Hmm yea maybe but trying doing over 20 years there you will soon get bored and want a quite life
It's a shit hole don't bother
True derby history & meaning on display here. In my opinion these derby's hold more than the top flight derby's known around the world.
this is a proper documentary. HIGH QUALITY CONTENT!!! really enjoyed that.
As an Ipswich fan, I think it would be amazing to see a club like Portsmouth get back to the Championship this season. We both know the feeling of spending ages in a league below where we should be (even longer for Pompey). Good luck to you guys and if Saints don’t go up, the derby is really gonna light up the league!
Yeah, wait for them since Ipswich is not going up this season, nice try though.
Great video. Want to visit the Pompey stadium after the scenes i saw in the movie. Respect for both sides! Keep the oldschool spirit alive!
Absolutely superb watch!! Thanks mush, you did a great job on this nipper!! We March On
I remember going to Pompey V stains in about '94 I think it was for our keeper Alan Knight's testimonial. A friendly, the night ended up in a pitch invasion, running battles around the ground and the city and cars set on fire. At a testimonial! That's the sort of depth of the rivalry. Supporting Pompey is an absolute emotional rollercoaster from the depths of despair to the height of triumph and everything in between. You never know what's next. Supporting stains is about all the excitement of wandering round IKEA on a Sunday afternoon.
Mk1 aquatic
We should try and arrange a pre Season game against them.
@@playuppompey2943 Definitely! I'd love to see the look on the head of Hampshire constabularys face when that gets announced🤣🤣
'An emotional rollercoaster'. Sometimes you're shite, then you're worse than shite, then you're shite again. It must be a great life. Congratulations.
Is it SHIT stains
I went to that game, I am a Southampton but I went with a few Pompey fans so I went in the Pompey end. I just remember poor Alan Knight having to go over the tannoy begging the Pompey fans to get off the pitch as the Policing bill was coming out of his pocket. The idiots on the pitch didnt seem to care. Sadly a few years after he went bankrupt, I hope those "fans" felt pretty shitty knowing they had cost him a fortune.
I was born and raised in Southampton. We used to live in Coxford. One of our neighbours threw a stone at our window even though there were no problems between us. Thankfully we had double glazing so not too much damage was done. Burnt out cars were common in the area. You couldn't play basketball in the court because the ground would be covered in broken glass. Passing through Milbrook and Lordshill on the bus, more than once someone would throw stones at the bus window, smashing it.
We moved to Norwich in 2008 and things are way more chill.