Creality Ender 3 V2 Stepper Motors Board Troubleshoot
Вставка
- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- Stepper motors suddenly refused to respond.
Had yet another board failure on this 'lemon' Creality ender 3 V2 printer. My other one works fine and never has any issues. Here is how I did the troubleshooting and what I found. - Навчання та стиль
I am grateful for this lemon printer. These videos have been very informative
I wish I had seen this over a year ago. Same issue and was ready to throw it out the window. Now I use it for parts for my other printer. Great video.
Thank you so much for this vid. I bought mine, put it together, attempted to auto-home and the motors clunked on and buzzed and did nothing. Nothing moved. I contacted the seller on Amazon about this looking for a new board (until I can get the big tree one) or a partial refund.
I hope you get a good result
I had quite a time with my lemon printer
The other one has had zero issues
@@rogersshop mine did the same thing. set it all up and nothing. frustrating to say the least
Did it resolve For y’all ?
@@tudadinero Yes, turns out the firmware was completely wrong for my board version. The seller was flummoxed how this could happened in a new unopened printer aside from coming from the factory that way. Either way we got the correct firmware on there (didn't want to accept the correct firmware at first) and it works like a dream.
I had this exact same problem to the T.
I had installed a brand new 4.2.7 silent motherboard. Putting my old 4.2.2 motherboard back in solved the issue. I’m convinced it’s the board too.
In your video you say that the Firmware is not the issue. Well I just had the EXACT same issue you are talking about here. So I updated my hardware to include a new hot end and leveling sensor. I had to update the firmware for the leveling sensor to work and the latest firmware on Creality's site is Marlin for V4.2.3. I installed this firmware and my printer locked the motors. It worked perfectly the day before I did the upgrades. I researched this a bit which lead me to this video, and other forums that mention that the 4.2.2 board cannot run the 4.2.3 firmware as it uses different driver chips. I needed to go into the archive on Creality to find the V4.2.2 firmware that works with the auto leveling sensor. I did and now my printer works perfectly once again. Maybe your basket case just needs the right firmware loaded. 4.2.3 doesn't work with 4.2.2
I'm aware of the firmware compatibility as I have four of these printers. The problem with this one was the board.
I had the exact same issue with mine, i changed the firmware. The printer now works perfectly.
3-19-2023 just found problem with my Ender 3 plus same issue I was running 4.2.7 firmware because my board is a 4.2 .7 just loaded 4.2.2 firmware unplugged installed sd powered on and problem fixed remember if reloading the same firmware you have to rename the upgrade so it will load " no problem has you beat until you give up on it" never give up Roland
I love you, i love you guy who posted a comment on a video months ago, when you decided to write this, you didn't know, but you ended up saving my life
Looking forward to see if the new board and screen fixes the lemon. Changed my failed 4.2.2 board to the 4.2.7, but not the PSU. Working ok for now. Keeping my fingers crossed.
Yes, the new board and screen did fix the lemon and it works quite well. I'll be posting that video in a day or two.
@ Roger's store Hello, you have chosen which motherboard to replace, a Makerbase or bigtreetech? Thank you
@@GameOver-ge2hr Bigtreetech SKR Mini. I did it yesterday and it works perfect with no "fiddling around". I am going to post the video of it tonight.
@@rogersshop That's good news. Now I know what to do if mine fails again. Thanks!
@akashic seer Almost all of them come out of china. So no matter which brand you buy they use the same components. The new board is still working fine. But, I agree with you.
Did you ever get the skr mini e3 and touchscreen? Would love to see an installation video on that. Installing klipper instead of marlin would be an upgrade
Yes. there is a video on my channel covering it. Marlin has worked just fine with this. I have 4 printers including this one that I changed to the SKR board and screen.
Just had a brand new printer right out of the box do the same thing on the X axis with the exact same board. Definitely believe there’s a problem with the 4.2.7 boards
Correction it’s a 4.2.2 board I have. I have a 4.2.7 on the way
My ender 3 max failed after a power surge in the neighborhood. I replaced the 4.2.2 main board with a 4.2.7. I created the firmware using the Marlin source code for the 4.2.7. Motors move, and it extrudes when done individually. Auto home works. When I print it all works for about 10 minutes then it stops extruding. Any advice will be appreciated.
I have a friend that had a similar problem with the printer just stopping part way through a print and could never figure out exactly why. It has the 4.2.7 board and what I did was load the WRONG firmware first, then rebooted and loaded the correct firmware from Creality for the 4.2.7. No problems since. This was a suggestion I read on some forum somewhere. Makes no real sense, but it worked........
@@rogersshop So probably a firmware problem. Possibly did not load correctly. I bet the loading of the wrong firmware for your friend enabled the repeat loading of the correct firmware. It won’t let you load the firmware already in the machine I understand. I should update the firmware and reload. Thanks for the tip.
I have a new ender3 V2 with a 4.2.2 board. The y-axis motor makes a thud sound and doesn't move. after swapping x for y on the board, i realized that the driver is bad. Is this fixable by firmware upgrade?
If the driver on the board failed (common), you will either need to replace the board (suggest 4.7.7 if going with Creality). I have one of mine with a 4.2.2. board and it has been giving me issues. Will soon be upgrading to a Bigtreetech board and display.
Have an Ender 3 in the Ender 3 Pro the inner three I just replace the heating element still not getting hot like I need it too and the Ender 3 Pro it starts feeding filament fine and once he gets the first layer of the print he quit feeding the filament any suggestions will help
I can "sort of" address your second problem with the Ender 3 Pro, although I had this issue with a different brand printer. If I sliced the project with Cura 5.x, it would keep running beyond the purge and fist layer, but then stop extruding. If I sliced with Cura 4.x, this did not happen. I have no explanation for this............
Thank you for this, I was literally pulling my hair our trying to figure out why was all of my motors freezing up at the same time when i go to auto home or try to move them one by one. I even unplugged each cable from each motor and tried to start them one by one. Guess I'll be trying to call someone in the morning or even returning this thing as I just got it today...
Understand the frustration! I changed this board to the Bigtreetech and also upgraded to their touch screen. No issues since.
@@rogersshop New update, I did an online service request and they got back to me today. They Attached a Firmware file to the email and had me flash the memory card then place the file on the card and install it back into the slot, that got me back up and running. It was this file....Ender-3 V2-Marlin-2.0.1 - V1.0.2 (1).bin
Now im having issues with the filament not wanting to stick to the bed no matter how i level it. Im so freaking taxed.....
@@marcusmiles568 Increase bed temp to 60. Also what is your ambient temperature? I was having some issues until I realized the room was cold!
@@rogersshop The bed temp is automatically 60, the ambient temp is 75. I installed a BLTouch today and this is killing me, when I go to print, it senses the bed them goes home, comes back then goes home again and the lcd shows that the print is complete. WHAT? lol I am almost bald now....
I assembled mine today and pressed autohome and it worked. after that i tried to move the x axis and it was dead, now I have the same problem as you. Im so sad right now.
That is absolutely a firmware problem, I just went through all this. My board is a 4.2.2 but had to use the 4.2.7 firmware to get my steppers to work again
Was not firmware. Driver had failed.
Hi i have a problem , printer switches on , hot end fan run , blue lights on motherboard , display reads CREALITY but does not boot up also the motherboard fan does not come on , have you ever come across this , not booting , thanks ender 3 2v
Sounds like firmware is corrupted. Try a reload of the most current version.
Recently got a used ender 3 and everything works but when moving the z axis theres a thud and it will only move downwards even when using the controls to move upwards. Any help? I dont want to go replacing something that doesnt need replacing.
Could be either the stepper motor or the stepper motor cable.
@@rogersshop thank you ill check it out
hmm this isnt my problem mines been running great for over a year no probs today went to use it and the etruder refuses to work i plugged in the x axis connetor to my extruder and it moves, so i know theres nothing wrong with the motor is it possible one drive could get blown on the board?
Yes. You can test the output using the same method I used in the video to determine it for sure, but your test of swapping motor plugs pretty much determines that the extruder motor driver is shot.
@@rogersshop it was the wire bro my e axis wire is damaged or broken somehow, replacing it with the x axis wire my extrude works fine i put the e axis wire on the x axis the x axis wont work so im 100% its the wire
@@happybrainybren yeah i had the same issue i had the 4.2.2 board and that issue as an escuse to upgrade but thats what i thought it was. i couldnt find anything this issue till now
Due to broken USB, I put a new mainboard in. New was 4.2.7, old 4.2.2. This isn't a straight swap as the step and direction pins are reversed. It gives the same symptoms - locked motor.
Hi can this happen with only 1. my extruder motor works on all other ports than its own so was wondering
Yes. An individual driver can fail. It does not have to be the entire board.
Thank you so much for this info I modded the F outta my ender 6 because of this problem lol and still does the same thing
I really need help with my ender 3, my z axis will move down just fine, but it wont move up. When it has to move up, it moves down and makes the binding noise. Its still a brand new machine, only printed on 8 times..
Either the stepper motor is bad, the cable to the Z axis is bad, or the driver on the board has failed. Try swapping the Z axis output on the board to the X or Y cable and motor. If this works correctly, then the motor or cable is bad. If problem still persists, the board has failed.
@@rogersshop ill try those to see, thank you
@@voodooprintz216 im having the EXACT same issue. Did you fix it? I cant figure it out.
@@alepepperoni2563 i ended up replacing the board and motor to be sure, it works like a dream now.. i bought the ender 3 pro board and stepper motor, the board makes everything run silently, no noise..
@@voodooprintz216 thank you for the quick reply, im going to order the silent board replacement and see if that helps.
Exact same issue I have right out of the box.
I did find a loose pin on the x axis harness at the board. Removed all the glue and repinned the connector and it's been fine since.
Steps per millimeters?
This depends on axis, or if you are looking at the extruder. These four steps per mm are not the same and need to be calibrated, which is more than I can put here in a reply. As a starting point (if you have lost factory settings) is X and Y are usually around 80, Z is around 400, and the extruder is around 100. These would be starting points, but calibration needs to be done to narrow down the most accurate settings.
yo tengo un fallo parecido en este caso es con un cr touch el problemas es que la placa no lleva ningun diodo rectificador a la salida de los drivers ,usb etc todo lo que sea propenso a devolver corriente a la placa asta los termistores tambien y eso conlleva a que la fuente consuma mas por lo tanto manda mas voltaje para todo generando la perdida de pasos mala calibracion cr touch etc yo descubri que el cable del termistor de la cama se abia partido por la entrada de la misma y se notaba cuando subia el consumo puesto el ventilador de la placa se volvia loco mi placa es una 4.22 y e probado tambien con la 4.2.7 y pasa lo mismo tambiaen pasa con optoprin conectado a usb
Si, puedo ver donde esto puede causar problemas con un bucle de tierra.
Todavía no he probado la CR Touch, pero lo hare pronto en una de mis impresoras.
Disculpe cualquier error en espanol ya que no es mi idioma nativo!
In English: Yes, I can see where this can cause problems with a ground loop.
I have not tried the CR Touch yet, but will be doing so soon on one of my printers.
Please excuse any Spanish mistakes as it is not my native language!
I bought one from microcenter, instead of buying a new one for $100 I thought I'd save some money and buy one from the huge pile of ender 3 printer returns they had at the front of the store. I bought it for like $85, but I wish I had purchased it new. This thing has nothing but problems, it's not even worth the time financially to repair it, my CR-10 is working well.
Yes, purchasing returns and "used" printers is a gamble. I've done that few times, when really cheap. Sometimes they can be fixed. Other times, just used for parts.
@@rogersshop Thanks for the reply, I just feel hoodwinked by the store and promises of working condition.
what should i do?
If it fails testing, replace it
same problem here....
Literally just had mine drop out on the extruder mid print. Creality 4.2.7 main board failed
I'm quite pleased with my upgrade/change to the Bigtreetech board. I may also upgrade my other Ender 3 V2 to the same. I also like the touch screen. So far, ZERO hassles after the upgrade!
@@rogersshop Yeah I think I am already going to order that board and screen.
this ender was given to me for free, the dude was like "It's CURSED!" and bought a prusia... needless to say, it actually must be, because I had to put a new hot end on it, so I put a microswiss extruder and hot end, things were great until one day I wanted to change the nozzle and shorted out the board (I'm a dumbass and didnt turn it off, never had an isuue with it before just heat swap, tighten and go) upgraded to the 4.2.7, thought I gave it a proper excorsism with that, until today... stupid ender... I might have to give it away and buy a prusia... lol... if only I could afford a prusia (of course there is probably a prusia's worth of shit thrown at this one over the years) stupid 3d printers... but I need em to build and fix my drones!
now I'm just ranting.
Thanks from Colorado
@@TheOneAndOnlyRandy I have 2 Ender 3 printers. One has worked flawless and the other is a "lemon" that has had countless problems, but the new Bigtreetech board seems to have taken care of the problems.
@@TheOneAndOnlyRandy Accidently replied to your post from my other channel!
@@rogersshop that's a cool channel too!
Thanks for the help
Anyone have issues printing stl files from thingiverse?
I have not had any problems
@@rogersshop for some reason some of the files I print from there either fail mid print or doesn't print correctly at the beginning whole others print perfectly especially the ones I purchase from other sites. Oh, BTW, I did send the ender 3 v2 back and went with the ender 5 pro...
My ender 3 V2 PSU have 30V wtf ???
There is an adjustment on the power supply to turn down the output via a potentiometer in the power supply. Be sure to use a QUALITY meter, not a cheap one when making adjustments.
@@rogersshop Problem is my voltage multimeter. Batery is low and multimeter view bad voltage.