How To Install Dual Z Axis Lead Screw On Creality Ender 3 Max (Using A Regular Ender 3 Kit!)

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  • Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
  • In this video I will show you how to perform the dual z lead screw upgrade on the Creality Ender 3 Max printer using a regular Ender 3 dual z lead screw kit! I am using an official Creality kit that was originally intended for the Ender 3 V2. The dual z lead screw kits specifically for the Ender 3 Max can sometimes be more difficult to source.
    Firstly, why would you want to perform this upgrade? Well, the Ender 3 Max has a long gantry span and the unsupported end of the gantry can sometimes sag on certain printers that came from the factory with loose tolerances. I've used many Ender 3 Max printers and the odd one has had this problem and I see it reported from other users online as well. By adding the second lead screw, the free end of the gantry is now supported and will not sag. You will now have consistent first layer performance!
    As always, I pay attention to the fine details of the installation. Be sure to watch thoroughly so you don't miss those important little steps that other videos often skip over!
    The great thing is that to make this upgrade work on the Ender 3 Max, you only need to replace one part in the whole kit... the lead screw. The regular kit comes with a shorter lead screw and you need a 500mm long lead screw. You need to look for a lead screw with an 8mm diameter, 4 starts, 2mm pitch and 8mm lead such as the following:
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    Don't forget to lubricate your lead screws at the end, re-level your print bed, and pay attention to all of the fine details in this video!
    If you have any questions, comments, or suggestions, I would love to hear from you in the comments section below.
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    0:00 Intro
    1:10 Unboxing
    1:40 Remove Power Supply
    2:05 Install Stepper Motor
    3:48 Remove V Wheels
    5:23 The Secret Sauce
    5:43 Install New Gantry Plate
    6:46 Adjust Lead Screw Nut
    8:31 Wiring
    12:20 Power Supply Bracket
    13:34 Lead Screw Bearing Supports
    14:50 First Layer Nirvana
    15:37 30 Hour Print
    16:12 Outro
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  • @mattacuff2421
    @mattacuff2421 Рік тому +11

    Ive been needing this for a long time! IMO Creality should be providing this at no charge because its a design flaw.

    • @EmbraceMaking
      @EmbraceMaking  Рік тому +1

      It should come from the factory like this, yes... but once you get familiar with Creality products you will realize that there are many design oversights. Most of them you can live with but are still head scratchers and you wonder how they missed it if they test their own printers before releasing them.

  • @Sean2448Retrogamer
    @Sean2448Retrogamer Рік тому +1

    followed all steps got everything installed correctly and ender 3 max is now printing flawlessly, thanks!

  • @simzary
    @simzary Рік тому +2

    This is the best Dual Z Axis installation video on UA-cam, tysm! I finally got my upgrade to work :)

  • @videomichel
    @videomichel Рік тому +2

    Got my kit today and I'll be using this video. Thank you for the well organized info!

    • @solondarville1020
      @solondarville1020 Рік тому +1

      Where you able to find metal blocks to help level your gantry?

    • @videomichel
      @videomichel Рік тому +1

      @@solondarville1020 I printed two stands with a bar on each side allowing me to square it against the frame and against the gantry. I tested against measuring distance with a ruler and the ruler alone got me very close. I am using an ABL/G29 bed leveling so if there is any misalignment it's corrected.
      Octoprint mesh viewer shows me a variation of less than 0.05mm on a glass bed which is incredible.

  • @mygamertag2010X
    @mygamertag2010X 8 місяців тому +1

    Thank you very much for this video, it made installing my Aliexpress kit much easier.
    Worth mentioning: some Ender 3 Max units use a 480mm lead screw, not a 500mm. Measure the one that came with your unit and make sure to order a matching length rod. Mine uses the 480mm.

    • @EmbraceMaking
      @EmbraceMaking  8 місяців тому +1

      Thank you so much for your support and generosity! Thanks for the tip as well, I hope some people find it useful!

  • @vasishtbatchu69
    @vasishtbatchu69 8 місяців тому +1

    on the ender 3 max you can actually hide the psu under the bed(It fits perfectly)! all you have to do is remove the thermistor+heater cartidge wires from the area, and move the plug by unscrewing and mounting it elsewhere using zipties or smth

  • @austria1492
    @austria1492 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @anthonyhammond9896
    @anthonyhammond9896 Рік тому +3

    Great video and easy to follow, but I just couldn't get the stepper motor to sit flat, it kept lifting up and causing it to bind up. After a few tries I checked out the plastic part that screws to the motor was not square to the side that screws to the frame, as its plastic I assume its a moulded part and on one side there was a lump all the way down the length of it. If this happens just check it and file it down on the bad edge till its square, sorted now and works a dream, thank you

    • @EmbraceMaking
      @EmbraceMaking  Рік тому

      Glad you got it sorted out and good observation!

  • @ronnyspanneveld8110
    @ronnyspanneveld8110 2 місяці тому

    Was my first printer bought of scamazon for 180 in 2021. then i got it that terrible Ender virus..
    Dual lead screw's, CR Touch, SKR E3 Turbo, compiled my own firmware with the BL Touch, Dual screws, and sensor-less homing.
    It even aligns both steppers on the gantry automatically using the CR Touch. then i got "sick"
    Now bought a NEW Ender 7 off amazon for 250,- and just printed your CR Touch mount for it :P
    This time we go Klipping. bought a BTT Tab 7 , my Ender has the TCM2160 boards on it, not the ones you have.

  • @DaneSaysStuff
    @DaneSaysStuff 6 місяців тому

    You forgot to mention a crucial thing when assembling the motor coupler. You don't want the lead screw or motor shaft to extend beyond the slot in the coupler and you DO NOT want them touching.
    BTW the actual slop in the threads of that Z nut is ridiculous. So much backlash...

  • @user-xb8sq3xk7x
    @user-xb8sq3xk7x Рік тому +2

    Lmao bro you couldn’t have said I needed the longer lead screw at the beginning of the video? Fuck sakes man now I gotta run back to the store 😂

    • @EmbraceMaking
      @EmbraceMaking  Рік тому

      haha good point! sorry!

    • @user-xb8sq3xk7x
      @user-xb8sq3xk7x Рік тому +1

      @@EmbraceMaking all good at least I realized before the store closed haha

  • @JacquesCTU1
    @JacquesCTU1 Рік тому

    Thanks

    • @EmbraceMaking
      @EmbraceMaking  Рік тому

      Thank you so much for your contribution Jacques!!

  • @machvellepang9798
    @machvellepang9798 10 місяців тому

    i brought a 3rd party kit but the cable included makes the new stepping motor goes reverse , how can I correct it? thks

    • @EmbraceMaking
      @EmbraceMaking  10 місяців тому +1

      You need to reverse polarity on one of the coils of your motor. Do a google search for identifying stepper motor coils and you'll need a multimeter to figure out the coil pairs

  • @fancyashoey
    @fancyashoey Рік тому

    Hey I've followed your steps but I've got something wrong, when moving the z axis one side goes up and one side goes down, have I put the wire in the wrong place

    • @user-xb8sq3xk7x
      @user-xb8sq3xk7x Рік тому

      The 2 middle wires are crossed on whichever motor is going the wrong way. Use an Xacto or something similar to get the JST connector female pins out and switch them.

  • @mittyoz6257
    @mittyoz6257 Місяць тому

    Just got my kit, though longer screw is still on it's way. Going by your video assuming I'm not doing any massively high prints, I can temporarily use the shorter screw until the longer one arrives, as there's no need to fix the top of the screw? Going to give it a try :)

    • @EmbraceMaking
      @EmbraceMaking  Місяць тому

      Yep the shorter screw can be used if you're not doing tall prints!

  • @mattse1222
    @mattse1222 4 місяці тому

    I had installed a dual Z axis on my Ender 3 V2. I is the same like Ender 3. But i have not taken the original cable, because it could demage the drivers. I made the steppers parallel, so the current is ok and you dont loos a step.

  • @DBoy8D8
    @DBoy8D8 Рік тому

    Need more videos for this model, do you have any suggestions on upgrading the motherboard? Mine burnt out

    • @EmbraceMaking
      @EmbraceMaking  Рік тому +1

      Could probably get away with a SKR mini !

    • @DBoy8D8
      @DBoy8D8 Рік тому

      @@EmbraceMaking thanks for the advice I’ll go check it out! 🙉🙈🙊

  • @felipecarocaosorio9524
    @felipecarocaosorio9524 Рік тому

    great video, i installed my kit, but the motor is not working. i dont know if the motor is broken or i need to do some configuration on the printer for use it?

    • @felipecarocaosorio9524
      @felipecarocaosorio9524 Рік тому

      sorry about my english :S

    • @EmbraceMaking
      @EmbraceMaking  Рік тому

      Any more details? Any noise coming from the motor? Is it jerking around or getting hot? You shouldn't have to change anything in the printer config or firmware

  • @connorwalldesigns1739
    @connorwalldesigns1739 Рік тому

    I just tried fitting mine and I can't seem to get them to stay level, the newer Z axis always seems to end up higher than the original when I auto home, any idea as to how I can fix this? Any help would be really appreciated 😊😊

    • @EmbraceMaking
      @EmbraceMaking  Рік тому

      So you're saying one side is moving higher than the other side?

    • @candaceppool7829
      @candaceppool7829 Рік тому

      Did you figure this out? I'm having the same issue!

    • @SaFeSapien
      @SaFeSapien Рік тому

      @@candaceppool7829 did you get it solved? I’m about to install mine and I’d like to know the solution incase

  • @petechristian9126
    @petechristian9126 Рік тому

    I installed this and now my z moves backwards any idea on why

    • @EmbraceMaking
      @EmbraceMaking  Рік тому

      Was it an official Creality kit? Sounds like you've got your stepper wiring harness either plugged in backwards or it was pinned wrong / intended for a different machine. Did you get it sorted out?

  • @LesWheelerBass
    @LesWheelerBass 4 місяці тому

    I guess I should have watched the entire video before going this route. My enclosure will not (comfortably) fit the printer with the PSU turned 90 degrees. I will have to dream up another option

  • @solondarville1020
    @solondarville1020 Рік тому +1

    What’s the size of the metal blocks you used? :)

    • @EmbraceMaking
      @EmbraceMaking  Рік тому +1

      Go to the bottom of this listing: embracemaking.com/products/creality-ender-7-triple-lead-screw-upgrade-kit-pre-order and click the link that says 'Levelling blocks I used in the video etc etc' and you can download the STL :)

    • @solondarville1020
      @solondarville1020 Рік тому

      I can’t find it :(

    • @EmbraceMaking
      @EmbraceMaking  Рік тому

      cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0628/8441/3673/files/BedBar.STL?v=1656044884

    • @chev_FTeam
      @chev_FTeam Рік тому

      You can use an empty filament spool

  • @Brian-un7wf
    @Brian-un7wf Рік тому +1

    Cr10 dual z kit comes with 515mm lead screw. It works perfectly, just doesn't come with a psu relocation bracket.

    • @EmbraceMaking
      @EmbraceMaking  Рік тому

      True, so I guess at the end of the day you're always missing one part. For me I found it easier to just buy a lead screw as they are easier to get a hold of on their own than a PSU bracket from a kit

    • @carlosef8
      @carlosef8 Рік тому

      And 3d print relocation bracket

    • @murdocdark5230
      @murdocdark5230 Рік тому

      ​@@EmbraceMakinghi, did you just use one screw or you hace to change both?

  • @virpz
    @virpz Рік тому +1

    Everything that is not a tight fit will

  • @XxDutchysPackinxX
    @XxDutchysPackinxX Рік тому

    i did tthis on my ender 3 v2 now its binding DX

    • @EmbraceMaking
      @EmbraceMaking  Рік тому

      Did you check your rods, are they bent?

    • @XxDutchysPackinxX
      @XxDutchysPackinxX Рік тому +2

      @@EmbraceMaking yes...I was able to solve my problem the second lead screw wasn't seated properly in the coupler took me a few hours to figure out but I got it :p