Prelude to Star Trek VI - Chang and Gorkon argue - Test Clip 2

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  • @Smeginator
    @Smeginator 3 роки тому +110

    This scene feels very Shakespearean.
    Both of them are fantastic actors

    • @davesmith-rs1yo
      @davesmith-rs1yo 3 роки тому +2

      Change a few names, to trump, and the theme, it could have hidden meaning?

    • @darania1
      @darania1 2 роки тому +9

      Shakespeares always better spoken in the original klingon...

    • @DissociatedWomenIncorporated
      @DissociatedWomenIncorporated 2 роки тому +4

      @@darania1 taH pagh taHbe

    • @darania1
      @darania1 2 роки тому

      @@DissociatedWomenIncorporated Heglumeh Qaq Jam'val..!

    • @DissociatedWomenIncorporated
      @DissociatedWomenIncorporated 2 роки тому

      @@darania1 SoSlI' yIngagh, yIruch! targhlIj yab tIn law' no'lI' Hoch yabDu' tIn puS, _petaQ._

  • @alexandercaldwell1411
    @alexandercaldwell1411 5 місяців тому +19

    The real gift of Klingon Academy is that it elevates Chang from the mere moustache-twirling, Hamlet-quoting "bad guy" that we see in STVI, into a multi-layered, misguided, and tragic figure, truly Shakespearean, who only wanted the best for his people and glory for the empire that he fought and bled for. No true villain is evil just for the sake of being "evil"; they may do evil things but always with the best of intentions, which as they say, pave the way to Hell.

  • @DrZaius75
    @DrZaius75 5 років тому +111

    It's awesome that they reprised their characters.

    • @razorburn645
      @razorburn645 3 роки тому +18

      It really adds gravitas to the scene. I wish more of this had stuck with the more modern portrayals.

    • @MrIronhat
      @MrIronhat 2 роки тому +6

      @@razorburn645 ironically this was released in 2000, after ds9 had already finished.

  • @yeltsin6817
    @yeltsin6817 2 роки тому +74

    RIP Chancellor Gorkin aka David Warner.
    He and Plummer were 2 fantastic theatre actors who brought a certain elegance to the roles 😊

  • @JaredRay_1701
    @JaredRay_1701 3 роки тому +65

    These two were a fricken treasure to Star Trek

  • @cholodelrosari0543
    @cholodelrosari0543 2 роки тому +47

    Gorkon was instrumental of bringing peace and survival , not just for the Klingon Empire, but for the Federation as well.
    No wonder a Federation ship was named in honor of Chancellor Gorkon

    • @WorldWar2freak94
      @WorldWar2freak94 Рік тому +5

      He was a far seeing individual. He knew that the Klingon Empire needed to adapt or die.

    • @jimtaylor294
      @jimtaylor294 Рік тому +4

      ​@@WorldWar2freak94Ironically; so did Chang. They simply had different ideas of how to achieve it.

    • @jmwoods190
      @jmwoods190 Рік тому +4

      @@WorldWar2freak94 Gorkon was perhaps the 2nd most honorable Chancellor after Martok!

  • @oneandy2
    @oneandy2 4 місяці тому +3

    The klingon empire really needs a "x days since civil war" sign.

  • @DerScheisse
    @DerScheisse 3 роки тому +36

    *_RIP General Chang_*

  • @kxmode
    @kxmode 2 роки тому +15

    Watched ST6 numerous times! First time seeing this. What a treat! 🙂👍

  • @r.mattcoker4184
    @r.mattcoker4184 3 роки тому +17

    Wow that's a lot of Klingon current events crammed into two minutes!

  • @Alaninbroomfield
    @Alaninbroomfield 3 роки тому +24

    He never should've been allowed to die in ST6. GREAT actor Plummer is. David Warner too!!

    • @newsbender
      @newsbender 4 місяці тому +1

      He had a great death scene and it's not like he was going to be used again after ST VI, so why not?

  • @DantesonofSparda85
    @DantesonofSparda85 2 роки тому +45

    Klingon Academy could be viewed as Star Trek 5.5 with events leading up to The Undiscovered Country. While playing as Torlek the player meets a Young Kem'pec...yes, the Same Kem'pec who becomes the Supreme Commander for the Klingon Empire!

    • @Pass_The_Remote
      @Pass_The_Remote 2 роки тому +2

      Someone stitched Klingon Academy and Starfleet academy into an awesome Star Trek 5.5.

    • @ValiantWrestling
      @ValiantWrestling Рік тому

      Chancellor, not "Supreme Commander"

    • @jmwoods190
      @jmwoods190 Рік тому +1

      @@ValiantWrestling Both terms are synonymous in the Klingon Empire

    • @Xerxes2005
      @Xerxes2005 8 місяців тому +2

      Is he already fat?

    • @NoumenalSoup
      @NoumenalSoup 8 місяців тому

      ​@@jmwoods190...it's "chancellor"

  • @pauljacques9697
    @pauljacques9697 3 роки тому +26

    RIP Christopher Plummer

  • @andrewdemetrius8090
    @andrewdemetrius8090 3 роки тому +35

    R I P Christopher Plummer

    • @chrismc410
      @chrismc410 4 місяці тому

      David Warner, too. He passed fairly recently

  • @LordSiravant
    @LordSiravant 7 місяців тому +5

    As a fan of both Star Trek and the Lord of the Rings, it's wild to see a clip of Gorkon and Chang debating the threat of Melkor as he divides the Klingon Empire in a bid for supremacy over them.

  • @grandmoff21
    @grandmoff21 2 роки тому +7

    Rest in Peace, David Warner.

  • @ericpeterson5994
    @ericpeterson5994 Рік тому +5

    RIP, David Warner and Christopher Plummer.

  • @JoffreyBaratheon1
    @JoffreyBaratheon1 2 роки тому +6

    R.I.P. David Warner (Chancellor Gorkon)

  • @edgewaterit1238
    @edgewaterit1238 3 роки тому +31

    Who had to watch because Chris Plummber died? RIP. Like If you are doing Klingon Death Howl with me!

  • @chrispeplinski7306
    @chrispeplinski7306 6 місяців тому +4

    Gorkon was an honorable man

  • @davidgriffiths7696
    @davidgriffiths7696 10 місяців тому +7

    Gorkon was the Cardassian in TNG, teaching Picard to count lights.

    • @ericpeterson5994
      @ericpeterson5994 7 місяців тому +3

      Imagine this scene:
      Madred: Picard, if you are ever to count the fifth light, you have to screw in the light bulb CORRECTLY!
      Picard(standing on a ladder, turning back to look at Madred): like this?
      Madred(shaking his head): no, no, Picard, THE OTHER WAY!
      Picard: why don't you do it yourself, you bloody wanker?
      Madred(face palming): oh, for Christ's sake...
      (Three weeks earlier)
      Madred: how many lights do you see?
      Picard: four.
      Madred: no, there are five.
      Picard: no, there are four. The fifth one burned out.
      Madred: what?!?(turns to look) oh, bloody hell, I could have sworn it was working yesterday. Oh, bugger.

  • @na3044
    @na3044 3 роки тому +6

    Ah, I remember that game and its 6 CD-rom setup.

  • @johnnyrock30
    @johnnyrock30 2 роки тому +5

    Not a test clip. A scene from the video game Klingon Academy.

    • @marivision
      @marivision  2 роки тому +1

      I know, I was going to try and do something with the footage just never got round to it.

  • @lenrely2033
    @lenrely2033 2 роки тому +4

    This is amazing!

  • @suzanneroberge494
    @suzanneroberge494 3 місяці тому

    Now that's how to play a scene- great acting.

  • @marcoperez6952
    @marcoperez6952 9 місяців тому +2

    Klingon political intrigue never seems to amaze me. Both brutal yet calculating. Alliances shift like the wind....even into Worfs era. The Duras/Gowron dispute went to civil war. Nothing seemed to change with the Klingons in all that time.

  • @jaityrone6306
    @jaityrone6306 Рік тому +3

    They should add all of this footage on the second DVD disk.

  • @rouge871
    @rouge871 5 років тому +17

    Wow. Nice bonus footage.

    • @FekLeyrTarg
      @FekLeyrTarg 5 років тому +10

      This is actually from a PC-game released back in 2000 called "Star Trek: Klingon Academy".

    • @razorburn645
      @razorburn645 3 роки тому +2

      I would have loved a movie with these characters as the focus.

  • @jaimebabb9968
    @jaimebabb9968 8 місяців тому +2

    The Klingons really work best when you write them like Shakespearean tragic heroes.

    • @n.w.1803
      @n.w.1803 7 місяців тому +1

      Imagine MacBeth set on the Klingon homeworld..

  • @williamharrell9305
    @williamharrell9305 Рік тому +3

    RIP david and Christopher

  • @kimaristk2694
    @kimaristk2694 Рік тому +3

    If Picard was a Klingon, he would be Chang.

  • @TommyRayzer
    @TommyRayzer 10 місяців тому

    Could you imagine if we had had the Klingon cast of Star Trek 6 be in movies 2-6. We could have seen parallels and changes in power, little snippits of stuff like this which would have eventually lead to Praxis and Star Trek 6.

  • @dirtypepper
    @dirtypepper 2 роки тому +3

    Looks more like cut scenes from a Star Trek video game thst tied into the movie…the close ups and the over shoulder angles are indicative of video capture cut scenes from the late 90’s video games 😂😂🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
    The acting is great though 👍

    • @marivision
      @marivision  2 роки тому

      I was going to try and do something with the game footage just never got round to it.

  • @KH4444444444N
    @KH4444444444N 11 місяців тому +2

    Sounds alot like T'Kuvma....Another fool in a long line of fools.

  • @chrisconnors7327
    @chrisconnors7327 2 роки тому +2

    Rip david warner

  • @ArnieS1947
    @ArnieS1947 Рік тому

    There are four lights!

  • @magnusmaul5447
    @magnusmaul5447 5 днів тому

    I never understood why Chang hated the Federation so much that he'd cling to it even if it overrode his love for his own people and doomed them to war on three fronts (Federation, Romulans, and themselves).

  • @LightLegion
    @LightLegion 9 місяців тому

    Can anyone fill me in on this different culture of Klingons?

  • @DARisse-ji1yw
    @DARisse-ji1yw 2 роки тому +1

    I thought he hadn't lost his eye yet here ....

    • @christopherwall2121
      @christopherwall2121 2 роки тому +4

      I think he loses it in the intro to the game.

    • @ValiantWrestling
      @ValiantWrestling Рік тому +1

      @@christopherwall2121 He does.
      Melkor's Half-Brother cut it out during the duel he and Chang had.

  • @ericpeterson5994
    @ericpeterson5994 Рік тому +3

    Melkor makes Gowron look like Obama. lel

  • @Jasmine1991forever
    @Jasmine1991forever 4 місяці тому

    Praxis = Chernobyl
    Gorkon = Gorbachev
    Star Fleet = NATO
    Klingons = USSR

  • @christopherwall2121
    @christopherwall2121 2 роки тому +2

    Never trust anyone called "Melkor"

    • @chrismc410
      @chrismc410 2 роки тому +4

      Or Duras. Hell, for all we know Melkor's house might be related to the House of Duras

    • @jmwoods190
      @jmwoods190 Рік тому +1

      ​​​@@chrismc410 Is there a chance that the Klingons once wanted to conquer Middle Earth/Arda that lied just outside the Klingon Empire?

    • @chrismc410
      @chrismc410 Рік тому +2

      @@jmwoods190 it's possible

    • @LordSiravant
      @LordSiravant 7 місяців тому

      After Morgoth got kicked out the Door of Night into space, he happened upon the Klingon Empire and integrated himself into it, resuming the use of his old name of Melkor and seeing opportunity in becoming the new emperor of the Klingons. They knew not the devil in their own midst lol.

  • @mitche5007
    @mitche5007 Місяць тому

    Melkor=the silmarillion😊