"In 1966, I witnessed, on numerous occasions, the remarkable spell Brian would cast while working in the recording studio. Mick and Keith would bring songs in, Brian would listen and effectively take charge, and everyone was in awe of him. He was a real perfectionist. While recording the recorder part in Ruby Tuesday he explained to me that he had to do it over again as he had been a quarter tone off tune."--Prince Stash Klossowski de Rola (artist and friend of the Stones) in Brian Jones: Butterfly in the Park.
Stash was a social parasite , a con artist and a fiction writer. BTW a quarter tone is a lot to be out of tune . Any musician would know that and recorders do not go out of tune unless you literally break them.
It was a real accomplishment of Brian to be able to get a recorder part onto a Rolling Stones song. You’d have thought Mick and Keith would have told Brian to sod off with his poncing about on recorder and stick to playing rhythm guitar but it didn’t happen that way. Brian must have had strong influence on the recording process to get that recorded with the number of takes it took to record songs in those days. In fact Mick just stuck on the vocals and it was Brian and Keith that shaped that song.This is an inconvenient truth to you.
@ Total Rubbish. The starting point for the song was Brian playing the recorder piece. Keith caught onto it and the two of them developed the song from there onwards. No way would Keith have thought of borrowing a recorder motif but Brian had an early ground8ng in classical music from playing piano and clarinet and he thought it up. Certainly there were conflicts in recording music but Brian Jones could not have been as impossible to work with as you say or otherwise why did Mick and Keith wait till 1969 to fire Brian Jones. You provide no credits for all your stories. You’ll have to get over with your fixation with Keith. My theory that, while Brian could be difficult, his role as a George Martin musical arranger kept him in the group. Once the police busts and barbiturate consumption started to drastically affect Brian’s work did Mick and Keith make their move,
rubbish. Gene said he wrote the song and Brian was in the room and they were having a conversation. Brian never wrote lyrics to anything. He contributed a few riffs and played the odd instrument ... that's about it.
Honey, writing riffs is part of songwriting. It's not just lyrics. You understand songs aren't just poems right? And Gene was not merely saying Brian was in the room. I'm embarrassed for you that you said that. Please do better before commenting again. @@ardalla535
If Gene Clark of all people who was given official credit, is giving co writers credit to Brian , then that is greatly significant. There’s also the Nanker Phelge credited songs which includes all five group members.i think Brian explained on the most recent film of Rolling Stones and Brian Jones, these were made up in the studio. However, that’s the way some of the Beatles originals were written.
@@richardbanker3910Gene has said he wrote the words to the song after a conversation with Brian, he obviously got an idea or some inspiration from what they talked about but that is all, Brian was not involved in the writing.
The phrase "When this you see-remember me-and bear me in your mind.Let the world say,what they may-Speak of me as you find " is attributed to Gertrude Stein; it's a line often used in reference to her writing and is considered a kind of memento mori, a reminder of mortality. Key points about the quote: Origin: This phrase is not directly from a single poem, but is representative of Stein's style and focus on repetition and personal reflection. Meaning: It signifies that when someone sees a particular object or experiences something, they should remember the person who is saying it. Stein probably stole it as well... The phrase "When this you see, remember me" is considered to be quite old, dating back to at least the 19th century, often appearing in autograph books and used as a sentimental expression to signify remembrance of the person who wrote it; with notable association to the writer Gertrude Stein who used it prominently in her work. Key points about the quote's age: Historical usage: Evidence suggests the phrase was commonly used in autograph books from the 19th century, particularly in the United States. Gertrude Stein connection: While not the originator, Gertrude Stein popularized the phrase in the 20th century, further solidifying its presence in popular culture. Meaning: The phrase essentially means that whenever you see this object or message, remember the person who gave it to you.
More research;Not only does this quote NOT originate with Brian Jones or any of the Rolling Stones it predates Gertrude Stein as well. Here is a record of this memento mori poem dating back to a headstone engraved in 1840 in Pogmoor, a residential suburb of Barnsley in South Yorkshire, England " *In memory of Elizabeth Ward, daughter of George and / Elling Ward of Pogmoor, who departed this life June 28th / 1840 aged 14 years 6 months. / Remember me when this you see / And bear me in your mind: / Let all the world say what they may, / speak of me as you find* Flat stone.
@@elenikorkodelaki2695 You Jones freaks will credit him with anything ...won't you. That piece of poetry was in common use for headstone engravings at least 101 years before Brian Jones was even born. Jones may have quoted the short poem, though it is many times more likely to have been put on the album cover by Mick or Keith since the album was released well after Brian died. The epitaph was certainly NOT Brian Jones own words. Like everything else he did, if he ever muttered that verse he copied it from some other artist.
Brians life changed tragic in the end , but that changes not the fact that he was the MOST important talented musician and founder of the Stones! ..He stays a legend forever 💯❤️, Sorry Brian what happened to you, you always be missed.. Immortal forever 💯
Jones did not found or form the Stones. In fact Jones and Ian Stewart joined Keith and Mick's band, the Blue Boys just before they changed their name to the Rollin Stones. The myth that Jones founded the band is a lie that was started by Bill Wyman.
“Brian’s pioneering status as a musician has become steadily less obvious thanks to the very success of his mission. The blues and world music that he championed and dragged into the mainstream have become so ubiquitous that we all suffer a hindsight bias-we find it impossible to imagine what the world was like without this music. As counter-intuitive as it might seem, this is proof of Brian’s accomplishment.”-Sympathy for the Devil by Paul Trynka
Trinka is a writer of bad fiction and Jones made no contribution to the song Sympathy For the Devil as his brain was too fried by then to even keep time. Interesting that Trynka would title his book about Jones with the title of a song that he nothing to do with.
Jones did NOT do most of what Bill credits him with. Jones did not start or found the Stones. When he was unsuccessful at starting his own band Brian went to Keith and asked if he could join the Blue Boys and Keith agreed. The band who debuted at the Marquee Club July 12th 1962, as the Rollin Stones were the four members of Keith and Mick's band, Mick Jagger, the lead singer of the Blue Boys, Keith Richards the guitarist of the Blue Boys, Dick Taylor the bass player of the Blue Boys and Tony Chapman the drummer of the Blue Boys. the band Keith founded the year before. They were joined on the Marquee Club stage by Brian and Ian, who joined the band figuratively and physically that night. Brian DID NOT form or found the Rolling Stones in any way shape or form. Brian JOINED Keith's band. THAT band changed their name from the Blue Boys to the Rollin Stones. It is all there in the historical record once you wade through all the mythology and lies Bill has been spouting to book writers, journalists or anyone who will listen with his worshiping lies about Jones for decades.. Just look up who first played the Marquee Club as the Rollin Stones and then. look up who were in the band Little Boy Blue and the Blue Boys That Keith and Mick founded in 1961. The history is clear you will find Dick Taylor and Tony Chapman in both lists You seem to think you have it all figured out, but sadly most of what you are saying is wrong.. Ian could not be "part of Brian's band because Brian never had a band. It was just he and Ian when Brian realized that his attempt to start his own band had been " unsuccessful."..( His own word). Brian and Keith and Mick were all sitting in with Alexis' band around the same time and Mick's singing was many times more impressive than Brian's slide guitar. None of them were more established than the others at any given time. They were all playing for free when they sat in with Blues inc, It was more like open mic invitation than anyone joining anyone's band.. Brian never managed the group at any time after he joined Keith's band. Ian was their road manager until 1985 but Brian could barely manage himself. So that is false. Brian has been given far more credit than he was ever due. Most of what has been written about him are lies and myths.
@@KatharineShaw-z8u If he were any older than 27 years, Jones would not have lasted anywhere near the seven years he did, given the volume and type of drugs he took and the never ending state of inebriation he constantly took on. Keith reports telling Brian in a rare serious personal exchange ;" you are not going to live past 30 with what you are doing" Jones's immediate and carefree response was simply..." I know." Brian's routine was to go on sleepless amphetamine binges lasting several days, all the while constantly drinking and often taking LSD then drinking enough hard liquor in a short time for him to pass out so that he COULD sleep. On the night he died he did that then jumped in his pool, but according to the Coroner Jones did not drown. There wasn't enough water in his airway to officially call his cause of death a drowning. He simply passed out and when he sank to the bottom he just stopped trying to breathe until he expired.Thus the "death by misadventure" COD on his autopsy report.
I suggest you go and listen to As Tears Go By and then Ruby Tuesday back to back. Keith's picking accompaniment on guitar amounted to a classical descant very similar to the recorder part he composed for Brian to play in Ruby Tuesday. It was not simply arpeggiated chords as many have assumed it to be . Keith's descant accompaniment was complete with bass counterpoint to Mike Leander's string arrangement. That was no happy accident. Keith knew exactly what he was doing. What probably amazed Kramer was that Jones remained sober enough throughout the session to actually get most of it down on tape.
Jones played what he was told to play. Keith wanted an old english feel to his opus and he and Jack Nitzsche arranged music for Brian to play on the recorder based on the piano part that Keith wrote and Jack played on the recording. Each line had to be individually hand fed to Jones in the studio over his monitor...If any line was too long he would forget it. Each musical phrase was recorded separately and then stitched together in post production. There were some lines that Jones just could not play or refused to try so Jack and Keith had to hire session flute players to fill out the accompaniment after Jones was done with it. Jones could never come close to replicating the piece in a live concert. He would just toot away often playing the wrong cadence or passages in the wrong place. It never went well. Jones was very difficult to work with and he never took Keith's solo song very seriously. Nietzsche described the recording sessions that yielded Jones's contribution to Ruby Tuesday as being " like pulling teeth"
I suggest you go and listen to As Tears Go By and then Ruby Tuesday back to back. Keith's picking accompaniment on guitar amounted to a classical descant very similar to the recorder part he composed for Brian to play in Ruby Tuesday, only without the heavy use of triplets. It was not simply arpeggiated chords as many have assumed it to be . Try playing it and you will quickly find out what I mean. Keith's descant accompaniment was complete with bass counterpoint to Mike Leander's string arrangement. That was no happy accident either. Keith knew exactly what he was doing as he did on the accompaniment in Ruby Tuesday..
Jones played what he was told to playon Ruby Tuesday. Keith wanted an old english feel to his opus and he and Jack Nitzsche arranged music for Brian to play on the recorder based on the piano part that Keith wrote and Jack played on the recording. Each line had to be individually hand fed to Jones in the studio over his monitor...If any line was too long he would forget it. Each musical phrase was recorded separately and then stitched together in post production. There were some lines that Jones just could not play or refused to try so Jack and Keith had to hire session flute players to fill out the accompaniment after Jones was done with it. Jones could never come close to replicating the piece in a live concert. He would just toot away often playing the wrong cadence or passages in the wrong place. It never went well. Jones was very difficult to work with and he never took Keith's solo song very seriously. Nietzsche described the recording sessions that yielded Jones's contribution to Ruby Tuesday as being " like pulling teeth"
The phrase "When this you see-remember me-and bear me in your mind.Let the world say,what they may-Speak of me as you find " is attributed to Gertrude Stein; it's a line often used in reference to her writing and is considered a kind of memento mori, a reminder of mortality. Key points about the quote: Origin: This phrase is not directly from a single poem, but is representative of Stein's style and focus on repetition and personal reflection. Meaning: It signifies that when someone sees a particular object or experiences something, they should remember the person who is saying it. Stein probably stole it as well... The phrase "When this you see, remember me" is considered to be quite old, dating back to at least the 19th century, often appearing in autograph books and used as a sentimental expression to signify remembrance of the person who wrote it; with notable association to the writer Gertrude Stein who used it prominently in her work. Key points about the quote's age: Historical usage: Evidence suggests the phrase was commonly used in autograph books from the 19th century, particularly in the United States. Gertrude Stein connection: While not the originator, Gertrude Stein popularized the phrase in the 20th century, further solidifying its presence in popular culture. Meaning: The phrase essentially means that whenever you see this object or message, remember the person who gave it to you.
Jones played what he was told to play. Keith wanted an old english feel to his opus and he and Jack Nitzsche arranged music for Brian to play on the recorder based on the piano part that Keith wrote and Jack played on the recording. Each line had to be individually hand fed to Jones in the studio over his monitor...If any line was too long he would forget it. Each musical phrase was recorded separately and then stitched together in post production. There were some lines that Jones just could not play or refused to try so Jack and Keith had to hire session flute players to fill out the piece after Jones was done with it. Jones could never come close to replicating his accompaniment in a live concert. He would just toot away often playing the wrong cadence or passages in the wrong place. It never went well. Jones was very difficult to work with and he never took Keith's solo song very seriously. Nietzsche described the recording sessions that yielded Jones's contribution to Ruby Tuesday as " like pulling teeth".
If he were any older than 27 years, Jones would not have lasted anywhere near the seven years he did, given the volume and type of drugs he took and the never ending state of inebriation he constantly took on. Keith reports telling Brian in a rare serious personal exchange ;" you are not going to live past 30 with what you are doing" Jones's immediate and carefree response was simply..." I know." Brian's routine was to go on sleepless amphetamine binges lasting several days, all the while constantly drinking and often taking LSD then drinking enough hard liquor in a short time for him to pass out so that he COULD sleep. On the night he died he did that then jumped in his pool, but according to the Coroner Jones did not drown. There wasn't enough water in his airway to officially call his cause of death a drowning. He simply passed out and when he sank to the bottom he just stopped trying to breathe until he expired.Thus the "death by misadventure" COD on his autopsy report.
Ironically he was a friend of Jimi Hendrix. But he was too messed up to plug into the kind of creativity that made Jimi so great. He was burning out on Mandrax and giving up. I still think he was murdered though.
He does play on the song All Along the Watchtower, Brian. You know during the opening and throughout the song those powerful THWACK sounds - percussive sound? That's Brian on an instrument called the vibraslap.
More research; Not only does this quote NOT originate with Brian Jones or any of the Rolling Stones it predates Gertrude Stein as well. Here is a record of this memento mori poem dating back to a headstone engraved in 1840 in Pogmoor, a residential suburb of Barnsley in South Yorkshire, England.;
*"In memory of Elizabeth Ward, daughter of George and / Elling Ward of Pogmoor, who departed this life June 28th / 1840 aged 14 years 6 months. / Remember me when this you see / And bear me in your mind: / Let all the world say what they may, / speak of me as you find.* / Flat stone.
Brian was the leader. But if he could write more than bits he would've been like a co-leader. I think Ruby Tuesday is his and Keith's really. But he was swept away by the whole London-Picadilly Circus atmosphere and the girls and the parties and the drugs. If he lived he would've been a part of something where his BITS were recognized and fed off of. But he was never a front man and his insecurities grew when Mick and Keith became a songwriting team. And having 4 or 5 kid before he was 19 didn't help much either. Not so easy being a Rolling Stone for real; even if he could act the gentleman with girls parents.
He didn't just write "bits." He was their George Martin, he arranged the songs they brought in, helped make them hits. And I'm not sure why his personal life gets scolded, as though every other rock star doesn't do the same thing.
@@TheaterPup..that simply isn't true. Even Mick didn't get five different women pregnant and dump them by the time he was in his early twenties. And that's only the ones we know about.If he had lived he probably would have been a closer comparison to The Duggar family patriarch than a rock star.
@@TheaterPup ..really? So how many babies did you have before you were twenty-one.? Or even how many people do you know who had five kids by that age.? Do you think he would have abstained from having sex with women for the rest of his life? I doubt it.
Hmmmmmm...I have often wondered why when the Rollin Stones played their debut at the Marquee club on July 12th 1962 they didn't use the other guitarist from Brian's band ... Oh darn They couldn't use the other guitarist because Brian didn't have a band, did he? They used the guitarist from the Blue Boys.Keith Richards the band that Brian Joined. Why didn't they use the Lead singer from Brian Jones' band at the Marquee performance? Oh Gee Whiz they couldn't use the singer from Brian's band because Brian didn't have a band so they had to use the Blue Boys singer Mick Jagger. Did you ever wonder why at the Marquee debut the Rollin Stones didn't let the bass player from Brian's band play bass at that gig. Oh Shoot Brian didn't have a band so they had to use Dick Taylor the bass player from the Blue Boys because Brian didn't have a band with a bass player in it... Why in the world didn't the Rollin Stones use the Drummer from Brian's band? Darn the luck...Brian didn't have a band so there was no drummer from Brian's band so the used Tony Chapman the drummer for the Blue Boys. Darn the luck!Brian Jones must have been pretty darn smart to JOIN the BLUE BOYS band because they had a successfully established band with all the artists and players to perform all the instruments they needed,huh when they got the break they were hoping for. That night Keith's band, the BlueBoys debuted at the Marquee Club with two new guys added (Brian and Ian) Mick from the BlueBoys, sang the lead and Keith from the Blue Boys played the main guitar with all the Chuck Berry style leads...Dick Taylor who played the bass for the Blue Boys played the bass and The drummer for the Blue Boys played drums for that renamed version of the Blue Boys the Rollin Stones with Two new members...Jones and Stewart. Some like to say that they all joined Brian's band but I have discovered that Brian did not have a band to join!. IT WAS THE OTHER WAY AROUND! BRIAN JOINED THE BLUE BOYS AND THEY CHANGED THEIR NAME TO THE ROLLIN STONES. I guess all those Bill Wyman lies and myths about Brian founding the Stones was just a lot of hogwash HUH? All Brian did was to join the Blue Boys and they changed their name.
More talent than you. Your only talent seems to be writing nasty comments about a man who died 55 years ago at the age of 27. Brian Jones is still remembered as a ROLLING STONE, as a multi-instrumentalist, as an icon of the 1960s. What have you contributed in your life that compares?
@@Bklyn93 you don't have any idea who I am, but I know who and what Jones was... He was a talentless poser who became wealthy and famous on the genius of others in the band he was lucky enough to join.. A worthless drunk and a psychopath.
@@Bklyn93 I made a living playing in bands for 23 years more that twice as long a Jones and I am still alive at 71 years old. I believe I did a much better job at living than Brian could have ever hoped for. He was a horrible person and a failure as a human being.
Brian did not get sick while in Morocco. He broke his wrist trying to punch Anita in the face in a drunken rage and he required hospitalization. His wrist never healed properly and he could never play guitar after without a lot of discomfort and pain. Anita escaped her abuser, settled down with Keith when they fell in love and had a loving family for many years.
Brian was the real Rolling Stone 🎸👏. That is a fact and nobody can't change that! P.S. I like all of them! They are all legendary musicians, and Brian Jones made this BAND! So respect all of them! ROLLING STONES... FOREVER 💖
@@elenikorkodelaki2695 Only LORD GOD Almighty is Eternal. Look my friend your Eternal Life depends on your relationship with the LORD GOD the CHIRST. And it better be Positive. Don't but your trust in the flesh.
Apparently Jones himself didn't care . His autopsy revealed that his liver had swollen to twice it's normal size as did his heart.His lungs were hardened with emphysema from more than a decade of chain smoking cigarettes as well as all sorts of drugs. No one gets into that kind of shape without knowing that they are killing themselves, I don't care how high he was...He had to know. Yet he continued drinking and consuming all sorts of drugs, unabated, up to and including his dying day.
"In 1966, I witnessed, on numerous occasions, the remarkable spell Brian would cast while working in the recording studio. Mick and Keith would bring songs in, Brian would listen and effectively take charge, and everyone was in awe of him. He was a real perfectionist. While recording the recorder part in Ruby Tuesday he explained to me that he had to do it over again as he had been a quarter tone off tune."--Prince Stash Klossowski de Rola (artist and friend of the Stones) in Brian Jones: Butterfly in the Park.
Bullshit story, Theater Poop...
Recorders can not go out of tune.
You will cling to any crap you read about Jones, won't you.
Stash was a social parasite , a con artist and a fiction writer.
BTW a quarter tone is a lot to be out of tune . Any musician would know that and recorders do not go out of tune unless you literally break them.
It was a real accomplishment of Brian to be able to get a recorder part onto a Rolling Stones song. You’d have thought Mick and Keith would have told Brian to sod off with his poncing about on recorder and stick to playing rhythm guitar but it didn’t happen that way. Brian must have had strong influence on the recording process to get that recorded with the number of takes it took to record songs in those days. In fact Mick just stuck on the vocals and it was Brian and Keith that shaped that song.This is an inconvenient truth to you.
@@richardbanker3910 Excellent point. Mick and Keith have repeatedly said Brian's multi instrumental prowess was invaluable to the band.
@ Total Rubbish. The starting point for the song was Brian playing the recorder piece. Keith caught onto it and the two of them developed the song from there onwards. No way would Keith have thought of borrowing a recorder motif but Brian had an early ground8ng in classical music from playing piano and clarinet and he thought it up. Certainly there were conflicts in recording music but Brian Jones could not have been as impossible to work with as you say or otherwise why did Mick and Keith wait till 1969 to fire Brian Jones. You provide no credits for all your stories. You’ll have to get over with your fixation with Keith. My theory that, while Brian could be difficult, his role as a George Martin musical arranger kept him in the group. Once the police busts and barbiturate consumption started to drastically affect Brian’s work did Mick and Keith make their move,
Btw, Gene Clark made it clear that Brian co-wrote Eigh Miles High. So much for certain people saying Brian couldn't write. ;)
rubbish. Gene said he wrote the song and Brian was in the room and they were having a conversation. Brian never wrote lyrics to anything. He contributed a few riffs and played the odd instrument ... that's about it.
Honey, writing riffs is part of songwriting. It's not just lyrics. You understand songs aren't just poems right? And Gene was not merely saying Brian was in the room. I'm embarrassed for you that you said that. Please do better before commenting again. @@ardalla535
@@TheaterPupwell said my friend 👍
If Gene Clark of all people who was given official credit, is giving co writers credit to Brian , then that is greatly significant. There’s also the Nanker Phelge credited songs which includes all five group members.i think Brian explained on the most recent film of Rolling Stones and Brian Jones, these were made up in the studio. However, that’s the way some of the Beatles originals were written.
@@richardbanker3910Gene has said he wrote the words to the song after a conversation with Brian, he obviously got an idea or some inspiration from what they talked about but that is all, Brian was not involved in the writing.
Eine wilde Zeit damals....
aber auch musikalisch eine sehr kreative Zeit...
🎵🎶🎼💥🔥🍀🍀🍀...
"When this you see-remember me-and bear me in your mind.Let the world say,what they may-Speak of me as you find "
I know that! Brian Jones word's! He will be NEVER FORGOTTEN... Respect to his memory 🙏🎸👏👏
The phrase "When this you see-remember me-and bear me in your mind.Let the world say,what they may-Speak of me as you find " is attributed to Gertrude Stein; it's a line often used in reference to her writing and is considered a kind of memento mori, a reminder of mortality.
Key points about the quote:
Origin:
This phrase is not directly from a single poem, but is representative of Stein's style and focus on repetition and personal reflection.
Meaning:
It signifies that when someone sees a particular object or experiences something, they should remember the person who is saying it.
Stein probably stole it as well...
The phrase "When this you see, remember me" is considered to be quite old, dating back to at least the 19th century, often appearing in autograph books and used as a sentimental expression to signify remembrance of the person who wrote it; with notable association to the writer Gertrude Stein who used it prominently in her work.
Key points about the quote's age:
Historical usage:
Evidence suggests the phrase was commonly used in autograph books from the 19th century, particularly in the United States.
Gertrude Stein connection:
While not the originator, Gertrude Stein popularized the phrase in the 20th century, further solidifying its presence in popular culture.
Meaning:
The phrase essentially means that whenever you see this object or message, remember the person who gave it to you.
More research;Not only does this quote NOT originate with Brian Jones or any of the Rolling Stones it predates Gertrude Stein as well.
Here is a record of this memento mori poem dating back to a headstone engraved in 1840 in Pogmoor, a residential suburb of Barnsley in South Yorkshire, England
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*In memory of Elizabeth Ward, daughter of George and / Elling Ward of Pogmoor, who departed this life June 28th / 1840 aged 14 years 6 months. / Remember me when this you see / And bear me in your mind: / Let all the world say what they may, / speak of me as you find*
Flat stone.
@@elenikorkodelaki2695 You Jones freaks will credit him with anything ...won't you.
That piece of poetry was in common use for headstone engravings at least 101 years before Brian Jones was even born.
Jones may have quoted the short poem, though it is many times more likely to have been put on the album cover by Mick or Keith since the album was released well after Brian died. The epitaph was certainly NOT Brian Jones own words. Like everything else he did, if he ever muttered that verse he copied it from some other artist.
They really were a fantastic blues band
Brians life changed tragic in the end , but that changes not the fact that he was the MOST important talented musician and founder of the Stones! ..He stays a legend forever 💯❤️, Sorry Brian what happened to you, you always be missed.. Immortal forever 💯
It's all bullshit.
Imagine the jam sessions with Brian? Heaven the place to be! : )
I don’t think he was the most important as the group carried on without him . He was an addict
@@jonash226 YOU think so? It doesn't matter what you think! He was the most important!
Jones did not found or form the Stones.
In fact Jones and Ian Stewart joined Keith and Mick's band, the Blue Boys just before they changed their name to the Rollin Stones.
The myth that Jones founded the band is a lie that was started by Bill Wyman.
“Brian’s pioneering status as a musician has become steadily less obvious thanks to the very success of his mission. The blues and world music that he championed and dragged into the mainstream have become so ubiquitous that we all suffer a hindsight bias-we find it impossible to imagine what the world was like without this music. As counter-intuitive as it might seem, this is proof of Brian’s accomplishment.”-Sympathy for the Devil by Paul Trynka
Trinka is a writer of bad fiction and Jones made no contribution to the song Sympathy For the Devil as his brain was too fried by then to even keep time.
Interesting that Trynka would title his book about Jones with the title of a song that he nothing to do with.
Jones did NOT do most of what Bill credits him with. Jones did not start or found the Stones.
When he was unsuccessful at starting his own band Brian went to Keith and asked if he could join the Blue Boys and Keith agreed.
The band who debuted at the Marquee Club July 12th 1962, as the Rollin Stones were the four members of Keith and Mick's band, Mick Jagger, the lead singer of the Blue Boys, Keith Richards the guitarist of the Blue Boys, Dick Taylor the bass player of the Blue Boys and Tony Chapman the drummer of the Blue Boys. the band Keith founded the year before. They were joined on the Marquee Club stage by Brian and Ian, who joined the band figuratively and physically that night.
Brian DID NOT form or found the Rolling Stones in any way shape or form.
Brian JOINED Keith's band. THAT band changed their name from the Blue Boys to the Rollin Stones. It is all there in the historical record once you wade through all the mythology and lies Bill has been spouting to book writers, journalists or anyone who will listen with his worshiping lies about Jones for decades..
Just look up who first played the Marquee Club as the Rollin Stones and then. look up who were in the band Little Boy Blue and the Blue Boys That Keith and Mick founded in 1961.
The history is clear you will find Dick Taylor and Tony Chapman in both lists
You seem to think you have it all figured out, but sadly most of what you are saying is wrong..
Ian could not be "part of Brian's band because Brian never had a band. It was just he and Ian when Brian realized that his attempt to start his own band had been " unsuccessful."..( His own word). Brian and Keith and Mick were all sitting in with Alexis' band around the same time and Mick's singing was many times more impressive than Brian's slide guitar. None of them were more established than the others at any given time. They were all playing for free when they sat in with Blues inc, It was more like open mic invitation than anyone joining anyone's band..
Brian never managed the group at any time after he joined Keith's band. Ian was their road manager until 1985 but Brian could barely manage himself. So that is false.
Brian has been given far more credit than he was ever due. Most of what has been written about him are lies and myths.
When I think Sixties, I think Brian Jones
Me too!🎸❤️
The Stones went on to become mega-stars after Brian Jones death. He was vital to their early sound but that diminished by 1968.
Jones was always a poser and a phoney. By 1968 he was a dead man walking.
He began diminishing in 1964 ...By 1968 Jones was a drug zombie on the verge of killing himself with booze and drugs.
@@williardbillmore5713 I'm amazed he lasted till July 1969.
@@KatharineShaw-z8u If he were any older than 27 years, Jones would not have lasted anywhere near the seven years he did, given the volume and type of drugs he took and the never ending state of inebriation he constantly took on.
Keith reports telling Brian in a rare serious personal exchange ;" you are not going to live past 30 with what you are doing"
Jones's immediate and carefree response was simply..." I know."
Brian's routine was to go on sleepless amphetamine binges lasting several days, all the while constantly drinking and often taking LSD then drinking enough hard liquor in a short time for him to pass out so that he COULD sleep.
On the night he died he did that then jumped in his pool, but according to the Coroner Jones did not drown. There wasn't enough water in his airway to officially call his cause of death a drowning. He simply passed out and when he sank to the bottom he just stopped trying to breathe until he expired.Thus the "death by misadventure" COD on his autopsy report.
I suggest you go and listen to As Tears Go By and then Ruby Tuesday back to back. Keith's picking accompaniment on guitar amounted to a classical descant very similar to the recorder part he composed for Brian to play in Ruby Tuesday. It was not simply arpeggiated chords as many have assumed it to be . Keith's descant accompaniment was complete with bass counterpoint to Mike Leander's string arrangement. That was no happy accident. Keith knew exactly what he was doing.
What probably amazed Kramer was that Jones remained sober enough throughout the session to actually get most of it down on tape.
Jones played what he was told to play.
Keith wanted an old english feel to his opus and he and Jack Nitzsche arranged music for Brian to play on the recorder based on the piano part that Keith wrote and Jack played on the recording. Each line had to be individually hand fed to Jones in the studio over his monitor...If any line was too long he would forget it. Each musical phrase was recorded separately and then stitched together in post production. There were some lines that Jones just could not play or refused to try so Jack and Keith had to hire session flute players to fill out the accompaniment after Jones was done with it.
Jones could never come close to replicating the piece in a live concert. He would just toot away often playing the wrong cadence or passages in the wrong place. It never went well.
Jones was very difficult to work with and he never took Keith's solo song very seriously.
Nietzsche described the recording sessions that yielded Jones's contribution to Ruby Tuesday as being " like pulling teeth"
I suggest you go and listen to As Tears Go By and then Ruby Tuesday back to back. Keith's picking accompaniment on guitar amounted to a classical descant very similar to the recorder part he composed for Brian to play in Ruby Tuesday, only without the heavy use of triplets. It was not simply arpeggiated chords as many have assumed it to be . Try playing it and you will quickly find out what I mean.
Keith's descant accompaniment was complete with bass counterpoint to Mike Leander's string arrangement. That was no happy accident either. Keith knew exactly what he was doing as he did on the accompaniment in Ruby Tuesday..
Jones played what he was told to playon Ruby Tuesday.
Keith wanted an old english feel to his opus and he and Jack Nitzsche arranged music for Brian to play on the recorder based on the piano part that Keith wrote and Jack played on the recording. Each line had to be individually hand fed to Jones in the studio over his monitor...If any line was too long he would forget it. Each musical phrase was recorded separately and then stitched together in post production. There were some lines that Jones just could not play or refused to try so Jack and Keith had to hire session flute players to fill out the accompaniment after Jones was done with it.
Jones could never come close to replicating the piece in a live concert. He would just toot away often playing the wrong cadence or passages in the wrong place. It never went well.
Jones was very difficult to work with and he never took Keith's solo song very seriously.
Nietzsche described the recording sessions that yielded Jones's contribution to Ruby Tuesday as being " like pulling teeth"
The phrase "When this you see-remember me-and bear me in your mind.Let the world say,what they may-Speak of me as you find " is attributed to Gertrude Stein; it's a line often used in reference to her writing and is considered a kind of memento mori, a reminder of mortality.
Key points about the quote:
Origin:
This phrase is not directly from a single poem, but is representative of Stein's style and focus on repetition and personal reflection.
Meaning:
It signifies that when someone sees a particular object or experiences something, they should remember the person who is saying it.
Stein probably stole it as well...
The phrase "When this you see, remember me" is considered to be quite old, dating back to at least the 19th century, often appearing in autograph books and used as a sentimental expression to signify remembrance of the person who wrote it; with notable association to the writer Gertrude Stein who used it prominently in her work.
Key points about the quote's age:
Historical usage:
Evidence suggests the phrase was commonly used in autograph books from the 19th century, particularly in the United States.
Gertrude Stein connection:
While not the originator, Gertrude Stein popularized the phrase in the 20th century, further solidifying its presence in popular culture.
Meaning:
The phrase essentially means that whenever you see this object or message, remember the person who gave it to you.
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Jones played what he was told to play.
Keith wanted an old english feel to his opus and he and Jack Nitzsche arranged music for Brian to play on the recorder based on the piano part that Keith wrote and Jack played on the recording.
Each line had to be individually hand fed to Jones in the studio over his monitor...If any line was too long he would forget it. Each musical phrase was recorded separately and then stitched together in post production. There were some lines that Jones just could not play or refused to try so Jack and Keith had to hire session flute players to fill out the piece after Jones was done with it.
Jones could never come close to replicating his accompaniment in a live concert. He would just toot away often playing the wrong cadence or passages in the wrong place. It never went well.
Jones was very difficult to work with and he never took Keith's solo song very seriously.
Nietzsche described the recording sessions that yielded Jones's contribution to Ruby Tuesday as " like pulling teeth".
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Little red rooster
@@mjstntn1505 stones version ? Thx bro
Little red rooster...🐓 that's a 'cover' of an earlier blues artist
If he were any older than 27 years, Jones would not have lasted anywhere near the seven years he did, given the volume and type of drugs he took and the never ending state of inebriation he constantly took on.
Keith reports telling Brian in a rare serious personal exchange ;" you are not going to live past 30 with what you are doing"
Jones's immediate and carefree response was simply..." I know."
Brian's routine was to go on sleepless amphetamine binges lasting several days, all the while constantly drinking and often taking LSD then drinking enough hard liquor in a short time for him to pass out so that he COULD sleep.
On the night he died he did that then jumped in his pool, but according to the Coroner Jones did not drown. There wasn't enough water in his airway to officially call his cause of death a drowning. He simply passed out and when he sank to the bottom he just stopped trying to breathe until he expired.Thus the "death by misadventure" COD on his autopsy report.
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Ironically he was a friend of Jimi Hendrix. But he was too messed up to plug into the kind of creativity that made Jimi so great. He was burning out on Mandrax and giving up. I still think he was murdered though.
He does play on the song All Along the Watchtower, Brian. You know during the opening and throughout the song those powerful THWACK sounds - percussive sound? That's Brian on an instrument called the vibraslap.
Jones killed himself with overindulgences of booze and drugs. Jones was not worthy enough to carry Hendrix's piss bucket for him..
Jones murdered himself with booze and drugs.
It's called suicide.
More research;
Not only does this quote NOT originate with Brian Jones or any of the Rolling Stones it predates Gertrude Stein as well.
Here is a record of this memento mori poem dating back to a headstone engraved in 1840 in Pogmoor, a residential suburb of Barnsley in South Yorkshire, England.;
*"In memory of Elizabeth Ward, daughter of George and / Elling Ward of Pogmoor, who departed this life June 28th / 1840 aged 14 years 6 months. / Remember me when this you see / And bear me in your mind: / Let all the world say what they may, / speak of me as you find.* /
Flat stone.
Brian was the leader. But if he could write more than bits he would've been like a co-leader. I think Ruby Tuesday is his and Keith's really. But he was swept away by the whole London-Picadilly Circus atmosphere and the girls and the parties and the drugs. If he lived he would've been a part of something where his BITS were recognized and fed off of. But he was never a front man and his insecurities grew when Mick and Keith became a songwriting team. And having 4 or 5 kid before he was 19 didn't help much either. Not so easy being a Rolling Stone for real; even if he could act the gentleman with girls parents.
He didn't just write "bits." He was their George Martin, he arranged the songs they brought in, helped make them hits. And I'm not sure why his personal life gets scolded, as though every other rock star doesn't do the same thing.
@@TheaterPup..that simply isn't true. Even Mick didn't get five different women pregnant and dump them by the time he was in his early twenties. And that's only the ones we know about.If he had lived he probably would have been a closer comparison to The Duggar family patriarch than a rock star.
@@thaismatsumoto You are simply ridiculous.
@@TheaterPup ..really? So how many babies did you have before you were twenty-one.? Or even how many people do you know who had five kids by that age.? Do you think he would have abstained from having sex with women for the rest of his life? I doubt it.
@@thaismatsumoto Jog on, troll.
Nothing is what it seems to be.
Hmmmmmm...I have often wondered why when the Rollin Stones played their debut at the Marquee club on July 12th 1962 they didn't use the other guitarist from Brian's band ... Oh darn They couldn't use the other guitarist because Brian didn't have a band, did he? They used the guitarist from the Blue Boys.Keith Richards the band that Brian Joined. Why didn't they use the Lead singer from Brian Jones' band at the Marquee performance? Oh Gee Whiz they couldn't use the singer from Brian's band because Brian didn't have a band so they had to use the Blue Boys singer Mick Jagger. Did you ever wonder why at the Marquee debut the Rollin Stones didn't let the bass player from Brian's band play bass at that gig. Oh Shoot Brian didn't have a band so they had to use Dick Taylor the bass player from the Blue Boys because Brian didn't have a band with a bass player in it... Why in the world didn't the Rollin Stones use the Drummer from Brian's band? Darn the luck...Brian didn't have a band so there was no drummer from Brian's band so the used Tony Chapman the drummer for the Blue Boys. Darn the luck!Brian Jones must have been pretty darn smart to JOIN the BLUE BOYS band because they had a successfully established band with all the artists and players to perform all the instruments they needed,huh when they got the break they were hoping for. That night Keith's band, the BlueBoys debuted at the Marquee Club with two new guys added (Brian and Ian) Mick from the BlueBoys, sang the lead and Keith from the Blue Boys played the main guitar with all the Chuck Berry style leads...Dick Taylor who played the bass for the Blue Boys played the bass and The drummer for the Blue Boys played drums for that renamed version of the Blue Boys the Rollin Stones with Two new members...Jones and Stewart. Some like to say that they all joined Brian's band but I have discovered that Brian did not have a band to join!. IT WAS THE OTHER WAY AROUND! BRIAN JOINED THE BLUE BOYS AND THEY CHANGED THEIR NAME TO THE ROLLIN STONES. I guess all those Bill Wyman lies and myths about Brian founding the Stones was just a lot of hogwash HUH? All Brian did was to join the Blue Boys and they changed their name.
It's a pity he was in a group with a backstabbing opportunist
That describes Jones pretty well.
Brian Jones - STOP YOUR DRUGS
Jones was 27 years old when he died. He is in the 27 club.
The first
@@antrygis1Next came Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, Janice Joplin, Kurt Cobain, and Amy Winehouse.
Brian never led the band and he never"owned" a woman.
He was a talentless poser and a faker
More talent than you. Your only talent seems to be writing nasty comments about a man who died 55 years ago at the age of 27. Brian Jones is still remembered as a ROLLING STONE, as a multi-instrumentalist, as an icon of the 1960s. What have you contributed in your life that compares?
@@Bklyn93 you don't have any idea who I am, but I know who and what Jones was...
He was a talentless poser who became wealthy and famous on the genius of others in the band he was lucky enough to join..
A worthless drunk and a psychopath.
Strange to think that 20 years later, his haircut would have gotten him laughed out of town. Geek, not god.
@@Bklyn93 I made a living playing in bands for 23 years more that twice as long a Jones and I am still alive at 71 years old.
I believe I did a much better job at living than Brian could have ever hoped for.
He was a horrible person and a failure as a human being.
The guy layering over comments in between others is as annoying as it gets
Brian did not get sick while in Morocco. He broke his wrist trying to punch Anita in the face in a drunken rage and he required hospitalization.
His wrist never healed properly and he could never play guitar after without a lot of discomfort and pain.
Anita escaped her abuser, settled down with Keith when they fell in love and had a loving family for many years.
A truly horrible person.
Brian Jones He's dead who cares?
Evidently you do,because you comment on every video presentation.
Brian was the real Rolling Stone 🎸👏. That is a fact and nobody can't change that! P.S. I like all of them! They are all legendary musicians, and Brian Jones made this BAND! So respect all of them! ROLLING STONES... FOREVER 💖
@@elenikorkodelaki2695 Only LORD GOD Almighty is Eternal. Look my friend your Eternal Life depends on your relationship with the LORD GOD the CHIRST. And it better be Positive. Don't but your trust in the flesh.
@@elenikorkodelaki2695 Mick and Keith founded the Rolling Stones. Brian JOINED their band.
Apparently Jones himself didn't care .
His autopsy revealed that his liver had swollen to twice it's normal size as did his heart.His lungs were hardened with emphysema from more than a decade of chain smoking cigarettes as well as all sorts of drugs.
No one gets into that kind of shape without knowing that they are killing themselves,
I don't care how high he was...He had to know. Yet he continued drinking and consuming all sorts of drugs, unabated, up to and including his dying day.