Xpeng P7 Performance Wing Edition range test
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Before buying a Tesla 2 years ago my neighbor test drove about 20 different Chinese EVs. He liked the xPeng but said it has many strange software behaviors and bugs, and thought it was designed by people that don’t even have a driver’s license. As he is a software developer I told him that those problems will be fixed later and he said:”But when? There are things that require a complete rewrite. If they were easy to fix they would have done it already.”
Also shows even 2 years later it's not fixed.
this model has been for 2 years or more i think. Their latest XPeng car seems more promising.
They told me a huge update is coming June 2023, it’s almost ready. Itested it late april, and most sounds were turned off.
- Bjorn procedes to say how silente the car is.
- The car doesn't shut the f... up! ding, dong
Jesus christ, 7:16 that annoying voice that kept coming on about xpilot was driving me INSANE 😂Also the doors are legit stupid. Tesla doesn't need to worry lmao
When the car kept unlocking at 22:30 you probably have it on a mode where the door will automatically unlock when it senses you/the keyfob approaching. My Hyundai Ioniq 5 does that too.
Sometimes I actually think he knows but just makes "fun" of the cars, this feature is something many cars has.
Yep ix3 also does that too
Tesla will not lock/unlock like a mofo if you're standing next to it.
The automatic unlocking should only be activated after the key fob leaves the car's range. It does not make much sense, in my opinion, to automatically unlock a car with the key fob in range when it was intentionally locked a few seconds ago.
@@bjornnyland neither does the Kia or hyundai if you have set it to not open if you are close to the Car, maybe the xpeng does not have the ability to turn the feature off. But some people actually do like the feature that the cars unlocks/unlocks if you are close or going away from it.
I'm not against scissor doors, but those ones just don't look right. They look like an afterthought.
They look more like an aftermarket modification rather than something from factory.
If I bought that car, I'd be cutting the wires to the loudspeaker before I'd got it home!
A neighbour bought an MG Maestro back in the 1980s and he *very* quickly got sick of the talking dashboard. He cut the wires (or whatever) to disable that before the first service. The dealer fixed it to be 'helpful' :-)
@@RupertReynolds1962 🤣
Another interesting video!👍🏻
Another interesting behavior of the battery management of the car and the power output from the vehicle to load. 🔌⚡️🔋
Keep up with your interesting work, thank you for the video.
Again, great and informative video, thanks! Bjorn I think many viewers would be very interested if you can provide the main specs of each car you test and drive at the beginning of each video, so that we can compare e.g. the xpang 7 performance with the model 3 performance also in regard to power and battery capacity and price.
Honda does the same thing that autosteer does when there is no driver input... just disables and no brakes. So if you are asleep or just having a stroke.. don't worry the car will finish you off..
My Ionia 5 also pops a warning to put your hands on the wheel. The frequency at which it does it varies, I think, based on the vehicle speed. So, some distance, and perhaps only if the car has to manage curves which would notice, turning the wheel, that there is no driver resistance to it. The warning, though, is not annoying. Displays a badge on screen but no annoying ding. Not sure if you ignore it, what kind of escalation it does, though.
That thing yapping at you all the time at 8:00 is a deal breaker. How annoying can it get? Excellent demonstration of your point.
I definitly agree on this - from there it just went downhill.
The doors are really cool
How big is the dealer network, and how is the warranty and rust protection?
all cars that have autosteer NEED to copy tesla on that part. if you not engage steeringwheel and ignore all warnings the car should keep autosteer active but put hazards on and slow down. everything else is a MASSIVE safety flaw
they should have rather copied that instead of the autopilot graphics 1:1
"Can you turn off that stupid sound" ... "Nein nein nein nein" 🤣 Greetings from Germany
All these sounds would make me crazy. thank you for the videos Björn who shows what car to avoid.
@@Psi-Storm bing is not a whole sentence to repeat over and over. Also try to use blinker and then Tesla doesn't bing when you change lanes on AP.
It would be nice to know how safe is the car in redundancy. Redundancy in auto steering ( Bosh Chipset ?), and if the computer has dual redundancy like the Tesla for autopilot.
Last time you did the auto parking and summon, wonder if that works great.
Notice that charging is slow, 75Kw max?
That "wooman" needs to shut up. Its like having a second wife :)
If you compare Xpeng p7 with Nio et5 or et7, which electric car is more advanced?
Thank you!
Those doors are kind of like those crazy TikTok Chinese videos
How good is the autopilot on this car? Better than other Chinese cars?
Klimaanlegget settes automatisk i Eco når du velger Eco kjøreprogram. Da blir det dårlig med varme/kjøling. Har samme på min G3. Eco på klimaet kan slåes av manuelt etter du har satt bilen i Eco.
the voice of that lady speaking the notifications heavily resembles to the lady that recorded the London underground metro announcements. (or the same lady that did the mothership voice overs for Passengers movie)...
Btw I was dying of laughter when the car was opening and closing the doors by itself :D
Dynaudio speakers ... can be great if they are the Danish ones
i still love the P7, and the wing version is great, but I do think they really fucked themselves over by waiting 2 years to release it outside of china. 80kw charging speed is uncompetitive, its a thirsty boi, and the bing bongs in the software are the reason why when importing a vehicle to a new market (both into china and out of china) you should hire a local firm for localisation as I can guarantee you no one from the western world saw those bongs change drive modes and was like "yes, that's what we need"
Xpeng actually famous for its software, and their team can always use last gen cpu to compete new version. My opinion is they haven't prepared well outside china because they devote themselves to G9. P7 will evolve in 2023 for sure.
Nice Car but the Sounds and the Notification when xpilot is on or off, that's so anointing if you can't deactivate all of this.
not configurable? Not on my list anymore. Did G3 owners even get any QoL updates since 2020?
😂😂 I loved this video just because car was giving back every possible opportunity! Nice video tho!
Tack🌹 ser fram i mot Hyundai Ioniq 6 i framtiden 🙏
-ding dong, ding dong.
-whos there?
-it's Xpilot bitch!!!
20:08 if you look closely at the car's headlights in the instrument cluster, you can see that the beam form an atomic hazard sign 😁 ☢
Thank you Bjørn. Wing doors that require you to reach out almost beyond your arm's length and fiddle around with the menu to find the button to close the passenger door; how about all those moving parts ? Does XPENG have service centers ? Do they have Service Cars to come to your house to fix the car ? And if the door refuses to close while you are on a road trip ?
Could the wings be the extra weight compared the chinese version you had reviewed earlier?
Maybe
uploaded on my birth day. This is a car i wish i could buy here in USA
Id love for you to test out the G9. with its insane charging speed
How? G9 is just being launched in China and there aren‘t any 500kW DC chargers in Norway/Sweden yet. Even IONITY caps at 350kW
@@robertsarkezi2080 fly to China?
so, who has the true best advanced driver assist features?
the best overall automated highway experience i guess.
what makes you feel the most secure using the features.
Tesla
@@bjornnyland
even with the phantom braking?
who's would be the most hands free?
still tesla?
ty for the reply.
i never drive enough to warrant a new car, and buy used.
and cars now will be what i look at in a few years.
software updates could change a few things by then too.
but i think it's indicative by what they have now as well.
Probably @BjørnNyland i miss something. But is this car normaly charging so slow? 77 is very slow compaired with the big battery. Isn't it?
Yes
If u see the results on xpeng p7 in same temps as the other on sheet its very good actually.. not correct to compare with those tempdifferences
10-15°C difference shouldn't increase the consumption that much.
@@bjornnyland how could the regular p7 performance on ur test perform alot better then? Yu can clearly see a big difference right? It shows on your own sheet of data that it has almost identical stats as bmw i4 m50
Maybe the screens that disappear show fluctuating data that could distract so their display time is limited? Sound Effects screen doesn't change so won't distract.
@2:08 holy smokes that door closing sounds so decent, I'm impressed...
same thought, very satisfying thud. and looks like a million bucks while costing 1/20th that.
I know those doors are dumb, will fail etc. etc.. But that's really fun to see on a 'normal' car.
Xpilot activation sound is so annoying
The doors open the window for fresh norwegean winter days.
So what is the real range??
I wonder if significantly lower range than M3 LR in similar conditions has to do with cabin heating? You did say it's tuned differently but what if the Celsius shows is indeed how hot it goes but is unable to disparse it in cabin properly? I don't know much about Xpeng but if we could see separate data how much climate consumed, it could help answering that.
Other than that, I love the design and the attempt at good UX/UI. Some downsides, sure, but it's doors like these and slick design that will allow it to become publicly seen as "premium brand". For example. if I compare it to new Genesis - Genesis has every spec that can make it envy worthy, even design is fine but it's ordinary enough looking/behaving that it will not be perceived on the same level Tesla is seen - but this Xpeng is striking, it will make the brand appear more premium. Those thinking M3 is ordinary looking, you're right but Tesla brand is established in hearts of youth already.
Dings and Bongs - I hope they provide option to turn them off. I am already annoyed with them in my Tesla Model 3 - I don't want anything worse than that. As an example, Tesla will always keep turning on lane departure warning and sound a loud alarm when you touch the line slightly at high speeds. Renault does Dings and Bongs much better as a comparison.
@@Psi-Storm my point is about how it is delivered. Heat is heat but if you pass outside air over a hot block of metal, you'll get colder air in cabin than pushing it through hot metal fins that allow better heat transfer. It's a simplified example, not saying that's the cause but design of heating system can very much lead to higher consumption to reach same temperature in cabin. This could be ruled out by testing the consumption of climate control.
No. The higher consumption is *not* because of heater.
Quick math: If the consumption is 50 Wh/km higher because of heating, then it equals to:
50 Wh/km * 90 km/h = 4.5 kW of heater power
That's way too much. Try to sit in an EV that blasts >5 kW of heater power constantly and you will have a sauna there.
@@bjornnyland Fair enough. Design of the heater system could still have inefficiencies that can cause higher consumption. I see unreasonably large cabin heat number in video and I see that this car has potentially much worse consumption than Chinese version two years ago. An obvious variable is temperature hence testing for it makes sense rather than assuming it can't possibly be that.
Of course it could also be other systems but it's harder to test them from user level.
@@bjornnyland I looked more into your data and press releases by XPeng. The other big differences from your old Chinese version test to Gullwing version, besides the door are:
It comes with XPILOT3.0 by default which includes:
- 31 autonomous driving sensors;
- 12 ultrasonic sensors;
- 10 autonomous driving high-sensitivity cameras and sub-systems;
- 5 high-precision millimeter wave radars;
- 4 autonomous driving surround-view cameras.
Also:
Dynaudio sound system with 18 loudspeakers.
Motor appears to be unchanged and has equipped German Infineon 950 IGBT module. I found no info if it has changed over the past two years but English info was limited.
The coefficient drag from press releases remains the same: 0.236 cW.
The Gullwing version does appear to be slightly heavier but I don't get the impression it's meaningful difference for such contrast in consumption.
And of course, outside temperature.
Given all above, if you still have Xpeng, please see if you can figure out where so much extra consumption comes from by testing what you can. Would be interesting to find out. I don't think XPILOT system consumes so much but hey, we've seen Renault prototype an EV with a giant rig for AI in backseat.
The bongs and dins would make me go mad… wow that’s annoying. And honestly, why would one buy this car with all of its weird software, slow charging etc… just get a Model 3 or i4 or… anything i guess. Am I missing something about the P7?
Those drive mode noises are so annoying
“Ancient Chinese secret” 😂😂😂
Ladybird version!
I wonder if you buy Chinese car, and would like to sell it or exchange it with a garage, would there be anyone that would buy it? How is the price depreciation of this brand?
Doors are not necessary, just something to go wrong and look as though they would make it harder to get in and out than normal. Range not great and with something like this would always worry about how long the battery cells would last. I do not see Tesla losing sleep worrying.
That car need a huge software update.
Nice video you very funny
Japanese secret you mean?
Cool video 😘
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I like all the sounds.
Cars do not need to make any damn sound effects when adjusting anything. It needs to have an option to turn off all the sounds
Instead of safely stopping at the side of the road it just tries to kill you, who thought that was a good idea?!
Just test drove this car on a track and just doesn’t perform as well as you think it would. Model 3 performance would destroy this car on a track.
Looks really good tho.
they copied everything tesla, even the f*cking name "performance". This company is known for stealing and IP Theft (tesla and apple), just look it up. Oh they claim the car autonomous driving is better than tesla, well check out this video of P7 crashing into a car stop on the highway...ua-cam.com/video/9Ps__ehdrJ0/v-deo.html
auonomy good but terrific design
The car keeps telling you what to do and punishing you rofl that would drive me insane. I want my driving experience to be fun and pleasurable, not give me anxiety like my dad/teacher is watching over me and judging me.
The website also says this car had 560km range?? You only got 364km out of it!!!!
Front looks like a Citroën
You lost a lot of points in your social credit score 😂
Bjorn, have you considered to measure car weight without you being in the car? That would give you a more accurate reading or should deduct each time your own weight from the results.
Nope.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_weight#Curb_weight
Why is it so slow at charging?
That’s the puzzle here. Larger batteries should be able to take higher power, and this thing has a similar sized battery to a M3. So they must be some limitation around the battery chemistry in this thing which means they have to protect it over the long term…who knows?
Xpeng p7 wing edition don't have lights show ..
OMG! So many sounds from the car. I would crash it just to make her stop talking.
Funny how you are saying it's quieter than the model 3 but at the same time that is being offset by the constant bings, beeps, and female voice announcements ..
The irony 🤣
Good to see Bjorn is testing XPENG P7, a good experience and overview let people know this nice BEV.
22:47 🤣
The problem is that woman’s voice constantly updating every few seconds……would drive me mad!
Those doors are just silly
I love how this car is a mish mash copy of other brands, the stalks on the wheel copied from Mercedes, the interior resembles bmw, the mains screen kinda looks like vw system
isn't it spoken like "chiaupang" and not "expeng"?
Xiaopeng (小鹏) is the full name in Chinese, but I think the english name is "expeng"
The nagging of the x-pilot
Did they just copy the Tesla software off one of Tesla's servers? Should have copied the efficiency as well..
This car likes to be funny. Haha. It has it own life.
Classic Chinese clone product - looks good and on the surface is a reasonable facsimile of the real thing (Tesla), but to actually use daily it is horrendous. Poor interface, glitchy and the software in general has no refinement or tuning for useability. Updates will be few and far between and after a few years (or less) there will be no updates as they have moved on to the next series of clone products.
Ok jealous clown Chinese cars are much better than overpriced european shit cars
Shut up, assisant!!! que pesadez!!
Similar UI to Tesla….
lol that Xpilot.. copied source from tesla wayback
Those doors will be total pain in the ass when it’s absolutely raining down; the door closes and then you have to wait for the window. And what about a tight car park?
This is like Mario Brothers for Atari 2600 if Atari had just stolen the code. The end result is still garbage running on limited hardware.
Someone trying to copy Tesla I would be not surprised if a chines employee worked for Tesla gave this company a head start 😂
I'm 10 Minutes into the video and the Beeping and Error messages are just insane anoying - would never buy one.
What did they do in two years!?! Not much it seems, both charging and consumption does not seem great. Software annoying, map is laggy too.
Why use internal map, Google map is much better.
P5 should be compared to Tesla model 3 .. and P7 to Model S ...
I can't find the article or video right now. But Xpeng held an event for P7 a few years ago in China. People could come and look at P7 and take it for a test drive around a closed track. They also put a Model 3 there for comparison. They did *not* put a Model S there. Go figure. The price on P7 is also very similar to Model 3 and not as expensive as Model S.
They tried to hard on this one 🤕 so hard that it is annoying 😠
Chinese is so funnny
I Want it for Germany 🎉
I'd bing like bing to bing make bing a dong comment dong but dong the bong sounds bong keep bong interfering bong.
All those sounds can do one. That would just make people so annoyed they'll drive angry.
liker driving a fucking hammon organs
How many Chinese cars have you driven to qualify you to generalized Xpeng as Chinese cars?
I have driven:
1. MG ZS EV
2. Maxus eDeliver 3
3. Maxus Euniq 5
4. BYD Tang
5. MG EP
6. MG Marvel
7. Hongqi E-HS9
8. Xpeng G3
9. Aiways U5
10. Nio ES8
11. Ora Good Cat
12. Xpeng P7
300kg heavier than model 3 long range. That is a lot!
Gimmick car 😂
Legacy auto should be concerned not Tesla ha
Musk should of seen this coming
No one in Europe buys this car with annoying sounds, bad driving assistant, crazy doors and slow charging speed. It's a joke, but nice trying.
The incessant dings and warning sounds, low cruise control top speed, strange translations, janky software, high consumption, mediocre DC charging speed.... The resale value on this is going to be terrible. This car is like a budget android phone vs iphone. On paper they are similar, but the experience is not the same.
I can't imagine how much CCP spyware is in that thing.