What’s the TN-Centre fight over University laws, why’re non-BJP states at war with Modi on education
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- Опубліковано 20 лис 2023
- Supreme Court has pulled up Tamil Nadu governor for sitting on bills sent by DMK-led state govt for 3 years. In episode 1351 of #CutTheClutter, Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta looks at why higher education has emerged as a bone of contention between Modi government and Opposition-ruled states.
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04:15 - PM said 'like foreign or defence, education policy belongs to country'
09:40 - Bengal Assembly passed bill to replace governor with CM as chancellor
15:00 - Bengal governor has appointed interim V-Cs for 6 universities
17:50 - Rajan-led panel found 99% of those who cleared NEET in 2020 had sought private coaching
22:02 - NMC had proposed allocation of medical seats & colleges according to state's population
23:42 - CM Ibrahim was minister for I&B, civil aviation in Deve Gowda govt
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Fundamental fact about NEET.
The NEET bill was introduced in Parliment in 2012 by UPA,where Congress and DMK were sharing power. In fact, Mr Gandhi Selvam, who was a DMK MP as minister of state of Education introduced this NEET bill in Lok subha.!!
Now this basic Fundamental fact shd have been stated in this episode or Ibrahims explanation for Gowada s sleep
I will leave it to the wisdom of Print team and viewers.
But it was not mandatory , even state level entrances were there.. now there is none..
Right but were the contents of NEET same?
Not really. Parliament and State Legislatures can legislate in their own territories. Unless and until those attempts are challenged and declared vires by the SC, attempts can be made at both union and state level.
Please know your own basic facts dude...
Correctly said, our main stream media unfortunately does not cover the subject of quality education and skill education urgent requirement for the development of our Nation.
Thank you, my friend. I'm glad you liked this episode. Do keep watching and writing in...best wishes, Shekhar
SG has completely missed the bus in NEET ranting.
The NEET in the present form is the product of SC judgments.
So if TN wants exemption of NEET for TN alone they have to approach the SC .
Nalini Chidambaram senior advocate ( and wife of P Chidambaram) who represented the government in 2012/13 in SC has clearly stated that the NEET exemption of TN aline would be illegal and the court would never grant it.
Please ask your young colleagues to go deeper and wider for facts before an episode is made.
This fundamental fact of NEET is the product of SC shd have been the backbone of this episode.
Shekhar ji, in the article, HD Deve Gowda was made PM from 9 am to 7 pm. The Print has done great injustice to him by making him PM for 2 hrs less each day and greatly reducing his chance to sleep for 2 more hours each day😜
"Arrey Bhai, yeh aadmi (Deve Gowda) saara din prime minister nahin hai. From 9am-7pm, he is prime minister of India. From 7pm to midnight, he is chief minister of Karnataka, from midnight 2 am he is district magistrate of Hassan, then at 4.30 am he has to get up for puja, then breakfast and then back to being prime minister of India."
I think govt should focus on changing system and upskilling students rather than changing board, ugc, aicte
State government universities are run badly. Mostly political appointments. VC appointments are completely political appointees with discussions on how to share tge UGC funding and appointment of faculty to party official wives.
are you aware most of central uni in the country are filled with rss stooges, that too the most imcompetent nincompoops, devoid of any major qualifications like the supreme leader.
Everything is based on the caste
They have become like appointments for missed mla or mlc tickets
Kerala state government universities gave the engineers who did chandrayaan 2. Learn something first.
Doesn't mean or implies that the "State Government University Chancellors" were/are responsible for it. Those people were hard-workers with aspirations! These chancellors don't even give a f about what's happening and what's not @@kkk66969
@@kkk66969chandrayan is scam😂😂😂. We can't do shit unless we change education system. NEP is the best way but unfortunately garbage state govt wants to screw around and duel centre uselessly.
Can a governor say that more than 6 crores of cases are pending in various courts and some of them are pending for MORE than 40 years ,are the courts sleeping?
I think the courts have no moral ethical legal authority to comment qbt the delay by other consitutional authority.
13 judges and they are solving 50,000 cases per year ofcourse we have issues regarding that......But how many bills are pending before governor and does he not able to sign it bz of lack of time?
Dear Shekhar ji. Great to see the coverage on education, it was a pure CTC but I would like to highlight some issues which you can cover on CTC, more frequently. Firstly, the fees of higher education institutes in this country is high, even in govt funded institutes like IIT/IIMs. Despite students who crack these tough examinations they find themselves paying high fees. Which I personally believe is unfair, first you pay for school, then for coaching get yourself into high ranks of the toughest examination of the country and still pay approx 2lac pa in IIT and even upto 12 lac for the entire course in IIMs. I think it is unfair to the student faternity who worked so hard and scored such high ranks, at least we should award merit, after all states are there to fund education. Lastly, I would like to touch upon the issue of NEET. I do accept that entrance examinations like NEET/JEE/CUET can be difficult but you see. This is the very nature of the competition (since we don't feel the demand and supply), students are studying well and that is why relative cutoffs are getting higher. I think, entrance examinations are the best way to distribute limited seats, bcoz in this system there is no board bias After all there was a uniform examination for everyone. Someone while reading this can propose that, we should have a system like LOR/LOP but one needs to understand we have millions of people for that one seat. So irrespective of the flawed, it is good to have a common entrance test which is uniform and much more fair than other methods like Board examinations (which has board biases) or LOR/LOP which is more hectic and can favour students from privileged backgrounds. One can argue that every state shall have their own entrance, but you see as a student you want a minimum examination and maximum option model and a uniform centralised model is good for it. What states like TN can do is, make better arrangements for those poor students and help them. Bcoz I don't think even students of TN would like to opt for something like Non NEET model. For a context, every state is free to have their own quota for their domiciles. So, no capture of North Indians as well. Its seems Stalin sir is making some deliberate excuses. Thank you for reading so long. Criticisms are welcomed, till they are respective in nature.
A lot of bribes flow through medical colleges to politicians in TN from many of medical colleges through charging hefty management quota fees! TN medical colleges are the most in demand in India for management quota admissions.
Govt should subsidise and level up primary education .. not higher education ...
@@anuragbanerjee2879 Well I wonder. How a student who got subsidized primary education can afford a higher education which costs this much money after being selected through a rigorous process, which takes the hell out of students. Instead the govt should make sure that every citizen shall get the education which is accessible and quality driven irrespective of their economic status from Primary to Higher. So, we don't become like the USA where quality education in the Ivy league is a privilege and community colleges are way below standards. Thank you.
Just wow.
An IIT or IIM graduate easily gets an annual package equal to the cost of his/ her graduation.
Then why ask for subsidies for those courses?
@@pratyushojha You see.That's not the case for everyone. Everyone doesn't get 2 cr or 20lac, everyone doesn't go with placements or some don't get placed at all, some probably want to pursue higher education without sitting in placements. Lastly, it's about making things accessible, after all the state is there to provide basic necessities without looking for some ROI and definitely not from students who came there cracking the toughest examination. To conclude my remarks, One needs to have easy education and not a burden of education loan which they have to repay, limiting their chances for higher education or pursuing something of their interest, bcoz their primary focus would be paying fees and get a good ROI which shouldn't be the motto of students of institutions. Instead they should enable students to explore themselves and that is possible if education is accessible to them with no financial stress.
If you didn't know, after 2014 we have Centre, State and "modi" subjects.
Concurrent subjects is the euphemism they use for "modi" subjects
Definition of "modi" subject - It is My way or the Highway !
States are doing scam, by making easy exams. Students are scoring high marks without learning everything. National level exams under Modi govt, exposed this scam.
Wow! So was it not before 2014? BTW Do you understand how state govts have ruined the higher institutes through cheap local politics?
@@balgopalsharma3513😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
If you don't like these rules change the constitution
Central govt has powers to make rules in these subjects which is given by constitution
@@balgopalsharma3513 are we in 2014? why do you keep bringing 2014? we are in 2023, let's talk about 2023 and not about useless things.
Kudos to The Print for taking up the subject of education, on the concurrent list, which naturally will have many flashpoints between the Centre and the States particularly in non BJP ruled States.
Dear SG sir, it was not clear why you mentioned NEP and the governers meeting in this video. What do these have to do with the governers' behaviour in opposition ruled states regarding higher education related bills? More clutter gets added by these tangential points.
In Kerala, higher education is hijacked by state govt. Wifes of ministers get Ph.Ds that are written for them by some others and these women are appointed as assistant professors. If you dont have party back up, then you'll have to pay around 30 lacks to the college/ university for permanent job as professor.
The post of Governor is unnecessary and should be removed! Spend money on something useful
Now they want to set up colleges based on the population of the state, next they will zone it based on the district population, after that the mandal population. Good going India. Proud of you.
If caste based reservations can be asked on the basis of population... Why can't colleges be setup like that?
That's why Jitni Abadi Utna Haq is an idiotic idea. How far can one go? Will family should get a representation then.
It was just an idea suggested by National Medical Council of India. It passed like a wind. Although, I can't comprehend what type of people in NMC it takes to present such ideas for a change.
Colleges should be set up based on the rates of students that finish schooling with minimum qualifying standard for higher education.
You can't set up colleges for entire population when only a certain age demography will enter in every year. It would be based on school enrollment rates as well as school graduation rates.
Definitely! This might be a good parameter to explore. But naah, they won't consider it as they open/regulate colleges just to add numbers to some list they'd show later in elections. A prime example is AKTU and its regulation in UP@@aleenaprasannan2146
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I'm seeing a lot of this in Tamil Nadu. They want investments in the form of factories and lower export duties and cheap labor from UP and Bihar who are the backbone of their cheap manufacturing. But when it comes to the nation getting a return on that investment, they're like "we're paying too much". When it's achievements and infrastructure they want all the credit, but all of their problems are caused by other states.
If this continues, there will come a time wherein the center will start looking at other coastal states for priority projects. India has a large coastline so that will not be a problem.
Reality is, education especially higher education is a huge money making business for far too many State politicians. The fight around education most likely involves Center stepping over State politicians' quota livelihood
Right the same Central politicians who couldn't deliver on primary education in their own Hindi heartland states even after 75 years!
You have not covered Tution Mafia interest in Tamil Nadu NEET issue.....
thats implied in the explanation
@@ytadltspv also no of Medical colleges increase in Tamilnadu not mentioned....
@@abagwe9887 fine, most of those mightve been built by the looted money of the politicians!! its still our money
Can we ask the same question to Supreme court that how long you will sit on a case without judgement?
For Example, National Language, Water distribution, Revenue distribution, AP Bifurcation act etc...
Thanks a lot for your quality journalism 👍
The selection criteria for a great educational institute should be based on merit as much as possible.
Shekhar ji please make a video analysis of school education across all states on education outcomes and quality and what must be done to improve ..😊
That's quite a broad sweep, Ved, but we will certainly try. Thank you for the suggestion. Do keep watching and writing in...best wishes, Shekhar
Thanks SG, bahut accha CTC hai.
07:15.. Very well point out..
18:30.. Also, It is not a good idea to merge all the Engineering exams in one exam. Reason is simple, What if a candidate gets fever or meets with an accident or any other unfortunate incidents. He/she will have to wait/waste entire year for another opportunity.
That's the case with any exam ....there are lakhs of students who appear for exam in state level also. What do you do ..?
@@jishnunk9070
01. It is not that government will listen to me.
02. Pressure is huge. Even if it is a small number of candidates having fever or or having a breakdown. It still matters.
03. I also told unfortunate situations might also hinder a student. And that student might loose entire year.
04. I have gone through all of these, that's why I am telling. You prefer to remove the humane angle, please free free.
P.S. SG told all engineering colleges included in one entrance test. And you are comparing it to multiple stages conducted by IIT JEE. They are two different things.
Thank you shekar sir for the coverage on the topics of higher education
15:15 There are entrance exams to all undergraduate programs in India. Not to mention govt jobs. So why only single out medical(NEET)? Standardised entrance exams may not be the perfect way to select but certainly better than all others.
Nice point, they don't suggest a good way.
didnt u understand the explanation??? coz neet snatches away the seats in govt colleges that used to go to meritorious state board students of which many are dirt poor kids with their parents doing daily wages. these kids cant pay lakhs of neet coaching for 2-3 yrs. and these state govt built colleges seats are forced open for all india and cbse students whose states havent bothered to build as many state govt collegs according to their student population. if state board syllabus is poorer quality , so be it , its not students fault and its our problem. let cbse build their own medical colleges for their students and write the entrance pgms. dont rob others
@@ytadltspv Is there no coaching for board exams? Infact coaching there has much more effect on the final outcome than NEET. Plus All India Quota is only 15% and it is there since 1986 much before NEET was implemented. So no robbing. Moreover why no opposition to other undergraduate programs??
@@AmalTan no one says the existing system is ideal. coaching for basic things like board exams is very unhealthy and the allegation that schools skip lots of fundas in 9th and 11th but start teaching 10/12 syllabus is not baseless. but all those are internal issues esp. since there are fewer govt professional colleges than required . 15% seats logic is ridiculous. 15% of seats in tn for tn's student population isnt the same as 15%of seats for any bimaru states population. most of those students are in cbse and get coached and take most of the 15% seats here. how many seats are avlbl in their 15%??? should be atleast 10 times more than TN # of seats. thats the daylight robbery we're talking of. for a 22cr populationin up alone vs a 8 cr population in tn, how many are students and how many medical colleges since this evil draconian neet was forced??? whats the plight of tn students forced to study in bimaru states coz they lost their home seats?? they speak hindi most of the time - not english. how many tn students killed themselves in md, mbbs colleges outside?? what happened to those probes. bottomline, education should be solely state subj, let the corrupt nmc/mci lay the stds and follow strictly so that medical colleges produce good doctors, but dont snatch our resources
other undergraduate pgms arent considered as crucial as engg/med. hunanities , science, commerce etc have their own career paths that give more time to good students there , rest no one cares . even thats going now
@@ytadltspv Well there has been 110% increase in medical seats since 2014. Moreover your arguments against NEET are less about academics and more about 'us vs them'(bimaru vs TN). That is your point of view which I respect but don't agree with.
Finally a good topic in CTC in a while.
I'm glad you like it, my friend Do write in with suggestions. It's always wonderful to get such feedback. Thank you for supporting our journalism...best wishes, Shekhar
TN Government should provide comparable coaching free of cost to the people it is fighting for and also sponsor them for costs involved in subsequent attempts.
15:11 - in TN appointment of Vice Chancellors are often auctioned, many ex Vice Chancellors are in jail or on bail. This power should vest only with the Governor as a way to eliminate corruption in the appointment of VCs.
Over centralisation tendencies are destroying our education in opposition ruled states.
Have u checked what was the process of selection to medicine before NEET came into existence?
At least in AP and TS, EAMCET exam ranks decides the seat allocation. Who are scoring good ranks in this exam? 90% are fro coaching institutions! In these two states, the coaching mafia can influence the appointment of edu minister and department secretaries.
Essentially TN opposition is not because of poor students inability to compete but because the state Govt losing control. Typical of U not go into deep when the subject doesn’t suit your narrative.
Our recruitment was based on 12th marks unlike AP......And our govt have already gave reservation to govt school students.
sir.. You have made some fine points in your video. But there is another side to it. Most of the autonomous colleges including iits have only academic autonomy. They don’t have financial autonomy. That makes the whole idea of autonomy much blunt. People are indeed paid handsomely in all govt run institutions but academic output is much below par. Ideally govt should had pushed them to complete autonomy ( like Ashoka uni). But instead they want to take controls.
Tab ek PM tha jo meeting me so jata tha ab ek PM hai jo sota hi nahi hai, India has come a long way.
What an amazing story at the end. Thanks Shekhar for sharing it 😄
States must work to improve the curriculam to make their students capable of taking up the competitive exams. Instead of this they are opposing the competitive exams. Just imagine a student on how many exams he need to take in multiple states. It is better to reserve some quota for state students. IITs should be on different footing.
First time SG mentioned that TV channel [Godi media] do simple and easy debate and discussion like Hindu-Muslim.....😂😂🤣🙈🙉🙊
SG, something is wrong in the recording; sound volume fluctuates, sometimes it becomes too low, and sometimes quite high.
Shekhar's "mauke pe chauka" on Deve Gouda's sleep was the best part of the episode ..
@@user-uq1pb1ig6g dude ... ur taking it to a whole new level .. I have nothing against or for any kind of Indian, north or south .. Its just nice to know the lighter side of peoples lives and not always look at the things from a very serious prism ... chill a bit ... I am myself a north Indian, raise in South and now live in Pune ..
We need a man who works and delivers results like Nitin Gadkari sir to the education ministry rather than the road transport ministry. Our country needs swift calculated reforms in government school education to have a better chance in life. what good an individual do in a government-funded undergraduate course or post-grad if he couldn't develop rational thought and logical deductions during his/her schooling years.thank you for the video
Is there any single regulator in USA? From where are we learning these central administration policies?
first learn the difference between usa and indian constitution ... 😆 then you won't ask this question ...
@@Diasaster yes USA is Federal System. All states have their own constitution. That has worked very well for the USA leading in innovation. Why Modi Ji wants to control everything, directly or Indirectly?
@@pushpindersingh1819 😆 lol just go n blame ambedkar ...😆 why he installed central tendencies in indian constitution ... btw usa is 300 year old democracy and innovation is the century old phenonmenon in usa 😆 & not all states are doing wonders in usa 😆 you never cried when congress filled academia with leftists ...now you have sudden urge for democracy ....
Loved the epilogue about C.M Ibrahim . 😅
Every time shekhar sir says story the child in me is high on excitement
How do we find the link you have shared sir ?
Central should be ashamed not to spend even 15 percent budget in education but comes to interferes with political motives.we have noticed it in viswa bharati case.governor dither gor withhold releasing bills send to him put signatures.
Conveniently not talking about making education as business by politicians is disappointing
We have fully elected governments of demagogues who abuse the law repeatedly. The speaker of TN assembly openly behaves like a TN minister and is partial towards certain religious affiliations. He does it in the garb of immunity that the position he holds offers him. The TN govt today has innumerable instances of police abusing the process of law and trampling on rights. The courts which do not have any accountability for the time frame in which they conclude a case how trivial it might be question a governors who has similar liberty and act as a check to state governments abuse although this check is still very weak.
U are only seeing negative thing TN.. These are common to most of the states. TN is very progressive and developed State in India..It is a pioneer in many things.. It is also pioneer in Resisting NEET also.. Perfect grab state power by Union government .
In Neet Most of them looking only at merit angle. See
Statistics and Imapcts of NEET exam
1. 66% are repeaters
2. Majority are went through coaching.
Rich people in all castes dominate poor.
3.Neet is against Poor...
4.Neet is against State power.
5.Neet is favours CBSC
6.Neet promotes coaching culture(Adhu dhan merit ah), only rich can afford years of special coaching
7.A student prepares for NEET for 3 years and even took coaching. Finally he is not selected. What he should do now. He has to choose another course. How much time wasted for repeated preparation for NEET. This is problem with competitive exams for studying a course.
8.Does MCQ test alone sufficient for Medical course or MCQ+Descriptive test(12th Board exam).Which is better. Already 12th board exam is there then why we need other entrance test. Even in UPSC Descriptive tests are there.
9.One can have competitive exam for career service. Eg. TNPSc, upsc... Why forcing students to undergo entrance test for studying a course.
10.Another important aspect is entrance needs to be removed for studying all course instead school based exam will be better. One problem is to for all india seats we have no other system in place to filter students for limited seats. So there are entrance tests JEE, AIPMET,agri etc for All india seats. Why the hell they are conducting entrance exams for state government seats. Colleges are established by states. It is a threat to state authority.
11.If this trend continues it will lead to unitary state where there is only central government will be there.
12.Next will be Nationwide entrance for all other courses even for state seats.
The choice is ours.
Struggle /accepting this this trend
Place these arguments in Supreme Court. All of these have been considered & have been countered. For instance - a single exam reduces the need to poor to pay multiple times. But Leeches that Politician Medical college owners are - they are sad that one revenue stream is blocked.
13:33 - “fire himself from the post of Chancellor “ 👍
Politics and Party ideology should not influence Education.
Out of the 11 bills are pending with TN ,7 bills are "copy paste " bills removing governor as the chancellor of the universities
NEP National Education Policy 2020 the wise and Prospective EDUCATION POLICY SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTED ALLOVER INDIA
I ❤ Shekhar’s stories !
Amazing report and explaination on a topic which we hear less about.
When asked about the Internet, CM Ibrahim said that the subject comes under the Ministry of Fishing!
SG superb interpretation of our education system. System deserves a uniform agency through out the countries, but unfortunately the political class all parties make it a biased system. Overall the NEP is best unfortunately will be diluted by poor and BIMARU states
Vernacular students should be given seperate coaching by the respective states, a medical or engineering college cannot use local language for its students
Thank you sir & team
When does a state government bill need assent from the governer, and when from the president? How long are they allowed to "sit" on bill? Can the court order them to take action on a bill, and if yes, under what law or provision of the constitution can it issue such an order?
This story about Deve Gowda, you have narrated that before. But this is the first time you mentioned that you heard it from CM Ibrahim.
Good evening sir,
I am not yet a member, as the reportage and talks and facts your institution has put forward have not been able to woo me to your side.
I believe all news, facts, fiction arise for humanity by humanity, so why not the human touch when we talk about all the implications and impacts to humans by humans.
I respect your experience, and there have been CTC which have brought out the humane side. Opinion is distinctively distinct from bringing out the humane side of all the chaos ensuing.
So i hope this suggestion tilts your capable institution to approach subject matters keeping the above-mentioned things in mind. And hopefully i get to see your member only content soon.
Thank you
Can judges command respect? our judicial system collapsed. Justice delayed is justice denied. In democracy, and largest democracy of the world, the judicial system collapsed but nation is progressing without contribution of the judicial system. Several instances have occurred when courts are passing judgments, bail orders and granting dates for hearing in lightning speed when the cases are filed by rich advocates. millions of poor litigants have been waiting for decades for final judgements, and many petitioners died without getting redressal from courts. whereas the judges have held hearings in mid night, evenings, holidays and passed judgements within one day. Honorable president of India had appealed to the CJI of India to redress grievances of tribal poor litigants who have been waiting for a judgement. the highest authority has appealed but effectiveness is not achieved. CJI says, bail should be allowed. Last week, a criminal rape accused was released on bail, he murdered the rape victim, a minor with in 7 days of bail. There are several instances of such criminal acts by criminals on bail but the judges have no accountability.
National Education Policy NEP 2020 should be adopted ontoto by All States
Disagree old man
15:30 Tamilnadu's ask is more specific to govt medical college seats. State gifts 15% of capacity to AIQ (All India Quota) which is at union government's freewill to allocate in a manner it desires! However the _other 85% from "TN state" funded college_ is *the prerogative of the state government!*
and why should TN get that special privilege which no other state gets?
@@ankits7106 India is a federal country. We as a state can make our own decisions. Other states can follow in our footsteps if they wish.
Imagine Jharkhand / Odisha specifically prohibiting export of coal to Tamil Nadu. TN will be pushed to the dark age in a week.
@@ankits7106 Not just TN, indeed every ethnic nationalities inside India should get autonomy and their rightful power to rule themselves; brahmin-bania minority combine can't be allowed to simply usurp power and wealth from real owners of this land.
@ankits7106 North eastern states have ILP, himalayan states have special rights for locals, hindian states have their special language rights, their hindi is used everywhere in India even in competitive exams, some states have special status. Then what paining for you, if Tamilnadu gets that.
If TN’s worry is about the under privileged students, they can provide free coaching or make an arrangement for scholarships ‘provided the intention is genuine. They’d have first done that.’ The motive seems to be more political than the concern for students as it seems. I believe people are wise enough to see this through ! Whether it be the judges or be it viewers
Tamil Nadu has delivered on education it has double the national average on graduates, if i were you would be worried about status of education in Hindi heartland which still is in shambles. It seems the real intent of BJP Union government is to drag the level of social fabric down to that of Hindi states.
@@SKumar-kp7fq stopped being obsessed with what you just uttered my friend. I am in Chennai too. See it as one India not Hindi states and Tamilnadu. And for your information, just see where the most IAS officers come from and see where most IIT joiners come from . It’s not about quantity. BJP is talking one nation our CM is talking one state.
@@girishchennuri You are the one talking about intent and you oblivious to the fact that Tamil Nadu is the state with largest number of graduates and it wouldn't have got there if Tamil Nadu followed the kind of Religious/Caste/Gender bigotry practiced in the BJP ruled states. IAS, IPS officiers are not gold standards for any Human development per se if so many of them come from Hindi heartland how come their states are still in a state of squalor and depend on tax money from Tamil Nadu and larger South India?....Anyone from Hindi heartland passing IAS and IPS almost always opt for South India where social fabric and law & order is good whereas aspirants from South almost always land in the lawless Hindi heartland which puts off anyone and stint there would be wasted effort on their part. If you want to put forward an valid argument back with facts not hollow nationalism to promote social discrimination and caste bigotry.
And send the centre should foot the bill, right? Because it sure wasn't the TN people or government who asked for NEET
@@SKumar-kp7fq Mr., Religious practice has nothing to do with the so called progress that you claim. 2. Caste bigotry not there in Tamilnadu ? I ask you to check that for yourself. IPS and IAS officers are at a standard better than many of us as a matter of fact. Unless you are an civil servant by yourself talking here. And if you’re not, I urge you to refrain from further rhetoric. As far as the tax money that you are talking about, highest is not southern states, but the western states. South and north states contribute almost the same amount of you consider the top 10 contributors. Go check the facts and do please write back to me. The data I had told was for 22-23. Let’s see how it fares for 23-24. Even the November numbers show the same trend. Now I got back to you with the facts. Henceforth, stop the regional discrimination and talk about how we progress as a nation. After all Nation is only a political entity. Respect the nation for its existence irrespective of south or north. You are only from the southern part of a country India. You’re Indian first and anything else only after that. Bigotry is a word I observed that you repeatedly used. First you refrain from using it. Wishing you wisdom.
We need a GaoKao for India, as simple as that.
Everything else is just driven by some agenda or the other.
It’s a battle for concentration of power at the cost of decentralization and democracy.
4:30 When Modi ji says that something belongs to country or der should be collective responsibility, it actually means that leave it to him only and don't ask for any role, responsibility, accountability and accept whatever he says as a God's will.
Everyone else have shown how terribly they handle things. Modi's way is the best way
@@libshastra Wow. Gajab. You have a really good understanding of democracy and democratic processes.
FYI, some 35+% Indians voted for Indira Gandhi even after her imposition of Emergency.
So we always have those Indians who have soft corners for dictatorial leaders or who believe in Chamchagirii of some leader or who doesn't believe in democracy and its processes.
@@BharatThatIsIndiaso liking someone who you don't agree with is going the way of "dictatorship". If that's the case ..then the Congress Party is the epitome of dictatorship, ruled by just one family. Wake up and smell the hypocrisy in your statement.
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If you don't like these rules change the constitution
Central govt has powers to make rules in these subjects which is given by constitution
Shekhar ji please do a CTC video on the OpenAI- Sam Altman debacle. He was reinstated as CEO of OpenAI today after being ousted less than a week ago
Poor districts chances of poor students opportunities are put in dustbin.
Hats off print for this topic
14:15 But Governers should know that they are figurehead only.
If you don't accept it, you will not sign the bill and you will prove yourself to be a shallo, power hungry person who doesn't have any respect for democracy.
People should punish Central government for these acts of governers.
We have long history of people like Romesh Bhandari to Dhankhad and Ravi.
Constitutionally a Governor can withhold a bill for whatever time they want because Constitution doesn't prescribed time limit for signing bill
You're a better social analyst ❤
What percentage of students in IIT and IIM are from non English medium schools? Is this a concern?
Hi Shekhar, I would strongly advise that you have an INR 100 per month subscription option for the print - that should significantly increase the number of paid subscribers for you
Leave it to a uneducated prime minister to tweak with education ministry
Appointment in these universities have become caste based to please voters
Appointies are relatives of some local politicians
To please Modi the then BJP CM Bommai announced a University for each district in Karnataka. No funds so far. Also hurriedly implemented NEP. But schools are unable to find or employ so many teachers to cater to the options offered.
This fellow who at the start tells it wont be opinionated within 6 min of video does exactly the opposite. Who cares its his editorial he can do whatever he can and we can write whatever we want
U can't avoid expressing an opinion. U r no longer a mere journalist but also an opinion creator. That's why ppl listen to ur presentations on Geo-Political-Def-Cricket-Constiturional- socio economic matters. U r absolutely right about the present SC culture: issue editorials rather than orders. They continue to sit( delay defer) on important cases/issues, perhaps b'cos of doubts in their own minds as to d level of authority they can exercise over d Executive&Legislature who r autonomous in their own domains. eg, they r yet2issue clear directions to Maharashtra Assembley speaker on d disqualification issue, wondering what d TN Gov wz doing for three yrs etc etc.
NEET: it is worth noting that only TN is opposing it. Are there no poor Government school students in other States. 😂
Only high quality single national syllabus to all schools in India can give us high skilled people from primary and poor states not only poor states but poor discricts if Tamilnadu kerala karnataka too village people need goid board education too needs it more
Reforms .... higher education too we need more college built and skills courses and updated skills in colleges etc....
The Tamil Nadu committee is absolutely right. Neet and Jee have become so competitive that coaching classes for them begin from class 8 or 9. Some times even class 6. Also many students repeat atleast once. Coaching classes have special repeater batches. All of it favours the rich.
Number of Students entering Medical Stream from Tamilnadu has fallen drastically. Hence the alarmbells.
In this episode I lost confidence in your research capabilities. You are just like any other journalists who take sides . Don’t you have any single point on why Governors are appointed as chancellors? Did such appointments came into practice after 2014 ? Luckily I did not pay for your average journalism, although I watch few of your posts.
Completely wrong about facts and politics on Neet in TN . Pl note some facts. Pl ask your young colleagues to chk the facts.
1. TN has most no of Private medical colleges _ around 25_ and almost all of them are owned by polticians of Dravid Parties.
2. Under pre neet system 50% the seats in the pvt medical college are filled by the TN government based on 12 th std marks with 69% caste based reservation.
3. Now comes the very important point. The bal 50 % of the medical seats in pvt colleges are known as management seats and auctioned by the owners for the highest bidder . 12 th std marks are NOT the criteria.Typically a medical seat is sold between 65 laks to 1 crore on black money.
4. Again ,caste based reservation of 69 % NEED Not be cosidered while fillig/ selling the 50 % management seat.
5. The annual capitation fee _ all in CASH_ collected per annam is approximately 7,000_8,000 crores.
8. Even in the Govt seats the students from ONE district of TN ie Namakkal District boarding schools used to garner almost 80% of the seats. These schools are again owned by politicos and charges 2 _4 lakhs for 11th and 12 std .
9. There are currently 2 MPs of DMK who are tge owners of 4 medical colleges and there are scores of MLAs who owns pvt medical colleges.
1o. In the NEET scenario the govt fills all the seats on Neet marks and 69 % caste based reservation is extented to ALL the seats.
11. The committee report u quoted is a JOKE. The committee took the fèed back fromall and sundry but NOT from the stakholders. I e students Teachers parents . Also the complete political background may be checked.
12. The no of students appearing/ passing neet from TN is on the INCREASE year on year.
13. The previous ADMK govt brought a Game Changing rule to reserve 7.5% the seats exclusively for Government School students.
14 Data shows that the no of Govt school Students who got medical seats in the last 4 years is more than the sum total of last TWO DECADES.
15. Recently Mr .Dayananidhi maran MP _from one of the Richest/ influential/wealthy/powerful family_ in a public meeting told the audience that his own daughter could not a medical seat now under the current system,whereas his grand father m.karunanidhi,his uncle M k stalin and he himself as a union minister easily got many seats earlier for their friends and family.
16. The stories abt the issues around the black money generated by sale of medical seats entering into film finance real estate dealings of brokers who bring in rich students from other states, etc can be the subject of 100 flims on OTT.
What about coaching Mafia.. Even Just pass in NEET can get medical seat by paying lakhs and lakhs.. Students preparing for Neet since their 9th saltandard that to in Coaching institutes..Eg.Kota NEET is pure Money thing now besides reducing states like mere Stooges of Union government
What about coaching for 1. IIT 2 Eng 3. CA 4. MBA (IIMs) 4. UPSC 5 state PSC s 5. TED exams
6. 10/12 STD EXAMS
7. BANK JOBS
ORDINARY
INDIANS HAVE RECOGNISED EDUCATION AS A VEHICLE FOR BETTER LIFE, GOOD FUTURE, EMPLOWERMENT ,ETC
Anyone got any theories why The Print or SG isn't covering the elections that much in various states ? I imagined there'd be at least one episode by SG on each election
Has SG mentioned about Leoni, a Tamil debater in TV channels has been appointed as chair of Board of Studies in a prestigious institution in TN. SG is biased and only finds faults with Centre.
Tamil Nadu’s point is fair and sensible as it was narrated here, but the IIT brand stuff is pompous stuff
All States Government Universities are Caste Centred and giving Sub Standard Education in India
21:46 NMC “c” is commission .
Why is one state so desperately against NEET? What is so different about this state? Definitely it has got something to do with medical college, capitation fees and of course ease of corruption.
@@user-uq1pb1ig6g First of all my home state is not TN (thank god). If TN has the best medical education system, then where is the problem. And don't club Karnataka, Andhra, Telangana and Kerala with TN and called it "South". In South only TN has problems with NEET. Other states don't have. Perhaps it is because of a jaundiced view. Anyway NEET can NEVER be removed unless government in centre changes. You can hope!
@@user-uq1pb1ig6g My name is NOT Sathyanarayanan - it is Sathyanarayana. My mother-tongue is NOT Tamil but Telugu/Kannada. Mass copying is wrong - no question about it. But that is no reason to stop all-India exams like IIT-JEE, IIM-CAT and NEET. Anyway why are we fighting? NEET is here to stay - period!
Even if you obtain zero marks in PG NEET , Government says you are eligible to secure a PG Medical seat. In such a scenario, what is the necessity for a NEET Exam?
The students’s marks after studying 12 years are becoming irrelevant in the present scheme of things. A student who scores 35% in NEET exam is eligible to join in a private medical college by paying hefty fees. This NEET system favours the rich at the cost of marginalised students. Therefore it has to be abolished.
The TN governor is just a ridiculous person. If he seems very clear, then it's better to go to Bihar and do something best for the state with his thoughts. If he succeeds, then we will automatically follow him. But right now, we see his speeches like a dumb fellow speaking here and there like crap.
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Yes.
But. State government is more corrupt. Centre having more power means less discrimination and uniformity.
Cant build college of high quality education shame on these freebies waste parties and kota ones poor needs high quality education too abolish state board for poor and village people
Give teachers training snd digital attendance etc exams to 5th
Governor post is a colonial act.it is a nuisance and should be abolished.
i request shekar sir to make content on halal certification scam of up
If there is anything of colonial hangover in our Constitution, it is the provisions relating to Governors.
All sides should be considered here. Weaning powers away from the Governor will only make education a playtoy in the hands of state parties. However, the NEET part I do get. The idea of "merit" is wrongly characterized in the country. English speaking and entrance test clearance is NOT MERIT but "filters". Merit is how well a person has internalized the education curriculum in which one was enrolled. It's not about how one enters but with what one exits.
Local politicians are running colleges, taking donations from desperate parents. And to justify admissions to the students, they make school exams deliberately easy. Students pass with poor learning, and end up being unemployable after college. The NEET exposed the fact that, high-scoring students in state boards haven't got good quality education, to score conceptually in NEETs.
It's all about money. NEET and chancellor appointment breaks the Mgmt/Private/Creamy Layer quota admissions. It's a huge chunk of money that Centre is disrupting.
Every Indian should understand India was created on the basis of federal structure,it's India not bharat don't interfere in tamilnadu system using crony like Ravi who have negative view on Tamil people, once Tamil people gets frustrated u know the result..
1) State govts should have the power to appoint their own VC's for their Universities. Governor being the default Chancellor is a relic that needs to be done away with
2) Opposition to NEET is moronic and short-sighted, another indication that Dravidian politics is toxic and dangerous. All the competitive exams in India have the same features of coaching and repeat testers being at an advantage. Doesn't mean you scrap the most successful aspect of India's higher education, and start doing social profiling of the successful candidates. The Governor is completely right in being so vocal in opposing the TN Bill
3) It makes no logical sense for IIT/IIM to have complete autonomy. As we can see in the USA(Score is 2-1 right now), Universities can't operate in silos from the rest of the country
4) NEP needs much more discussion rather than whining about the politics of education