Indira Gandhi’s death anniversary: How her economy & foreign policy playbook changed from pink left
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- Опубліковано 31 жов 2023
- India observed former prime minister Indira Gandhi’s 39th death anniversary Tuesday. In Ep 1340 of Cut The Clutter, Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta reevaluates the economic and foreign policy of India’s ‘Iron Lady’ & explains why it is still relevant in the Modi era.
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IG's gift to INDIA was Emergency, that lead to emergence of so many young politicians (young then) Arun Jaitley,Sushma Swaraj, Nitish, Lalu etc. In any case her grand son & grand daughter will sooner or later realize that taking a nasty left turn on economics has it's costs. One of the reasons UPA lost so badly is because they messed up with economics. Do whatever but messing up on economy is strict no no. People will be really tough on them. Check out states after states wherever people see a mess in economics they throw out the regime. WB & BIHAR is an exception (even that will change). The ill effects of her economic decisions are being paid for even now.
Indira Gandhi was a pragmatic and courageous PM loved by majority of Indians and envy of other countries. We respect both Vallabhai Patel and Indira Gandhi but she was a PM who made the supreme sacrifice for our beloved country.
While there's no doubt that she was the strongest & courageous leader.. dont whitewash her misadventures. She put the country under emergency. She sacrificed educational institutions to the left to cling onto power. Her economic policies were so bad.
Eat a d1ck with the lie bro. She's the reason for decline of Congress today
Please don't spread propaganda on Congress/Nehru family incompetent leaders; be it Nehru or Indira Gandhi!! Indira released 90,000 Islamic Pakistan's Prisoners of war without negotiating anything on Kashmir or on Indian prisoners of war in Pakistan!!
She accelerated the folly of Nehru's corrupt license Raj keeping Indians in extreme poverty and even killed thousands of innocent Hindus/Sadhus peacefully protesting in front of parliament!!
If you think about it in a way
she gave her sacrifice to turn down the anger in sikhs
she was aware of what might happen to her
Srimati Indira Gandhi will stand as one of the greatest statesman of South Asia. She had been a brave heart who could defy all odds to stand for humankind. Her commitment for secularism and other human values is beyond comparison, so far Indian context is concerned. We Bangladeshis always remember her with deep respect. She not only fed our ten million people in their dire situation, she gave us proper honor for what we had been fighting for centuries. On her thirty ninth death anniversary we again bow our head to this great lady. Dear Leader, Priyodorshini Indira.take may salute and heartfelt love!
SGji,
Audience respects your experience and would love to hear your stories from journalism. Something on the lines of “Pradhanmantri” series would be extremely valuable for youngsters like me to understand this beautiful country and its politics.
We love you and I am not saying put it in cut the clutter, maybe another series would add further depth to 2024 elections.
Regards,
Harish
Hi! Harish, pls beware of Shekhar Coputa. He is a classic lutyen. He is extremely corrupt.
Don't be fooled by such stories, hear them with a bucketful of salt. His loyalties lies with Congress party and he will be forever a Sonia's doormat
@@manh9105 Nope it doesn't, you are just blind, this is not lutyens media like ndtv or the wire.
@@manh9105 hi man h,
Appreciate your reply on comment, I really don’t have any issues with inclination of journalists in the power corridors.
I’m here for the brevity & interest with which SG is presenting CTC. Remember, even CJI watches it!
My curiosity is adequately addressed here. The moment, something that is said that, doesn’t resonate with my conscience, I will drift away like many others. Also, I have till now found SG balanced and sane.
Thanks for the heads up though!
Thank you for writing in, Harish, and for your wonderful suggestion. It could make for an interesting series with a lot of storytelling. In the meantime, do keep watching...stay well and best wishes, Shekhar
Stories on Congress/Nehru family incompetent leaders; be it Nehru or Indira Gandhi will be interesting!!
Indira released 90,000 Islamic Pakistan's Prisoners of war without negotiating anything on Kashmir or on Indian prisoners of war in Pakistan!!
She accelerated the folly of Nehru's corrupt license Raj keeping Indians in extreme poverty and even killed thousands of innocent Hindus/Sadhus peacefully protesting in front of parliament!!
She is truly deserving of the tag Iron lady...can we find the leaders in the present dispensation whose eyes would moist at the plight of the victims...I doubt... their eyes would be wide open for opportunities on how to reap electoral benefits by dividing people based on that unfortunate event.
Thank you Shekar ji.
I heard Abhijit Iyer mitra say her foreign and military policy was the best among any Indian leader in independent India..... but he also said her economic policy was copied from USSR model prolly coz we were closer to them
Good one. Nice thought from you to bring out this angle. Thank you
Waiting for a cut of clutter on Keral fiasco....Hope will have a strong ,data based report and this issue will not be brushed under the carpet with some passing references
It won't. But brush it he will, nevertheless...
Every PM has remarkable contribution in growth of our country. The celebration of Patel Birthday Anniversary must not vanish sacrifice of Indira Gangh by present day .Similar Lal Bahadur Shastri Birthday Anniversary not celebrated in the same Mahatma Gandhi earlier. Every Individual must be given proper respect despite political difference. Atal ji said " Matbhed hona chahiye, na ki manbhed".
Congress doesn't even respect their party former leaders (pv Narasimha Rao) let alone leaders from other parties. That family is worst of the worst
Is that joke?? Who has congress respected outside the fake Gandhi family??!!
DO NOT spread propaganda on Congress/Nehru family incompetent leaders; be it Nehru or Indira Gandhi!! Indira released 90,000 Islamic Pakistan's Prisoners of war without negotiating anything on Kashmir or on Indian prisoners of war in Pakistan!!
She accelerated the folly of Nehru's corrupt license Raj keeping Indians in extreme poverty and even killed thousands of innocent Hindus/Sadhus peacefully protesting in front of parliament!!
For non economists, if inflation is at 33% and GDP growth is at 6%, what is the real rate of growth?
negative
GDP growth rate is adjusted for inflation. Please read about nominal growth and real growth.
@@sleepyhead9905no its not.... that time it was not inflation adjusted
@@raghuarmani8341Mostly because of income inequality.
It will be negative 6/33 percent.
Good leader but like PM Modi reminds about Dr Ambedkar's truism that -"Under any condition bhakti shall not be promoted and our focus should always be on good institutions rather than bhakti of leaders". India should not show unquestioned support for any ism whether it be Hindutva or socialism. Free flow of all ideas with robust debate is the only path to success.
SG accurately describes (Freudian slip) UPA as ‘Sonia time’ instead of Manmohan’s time 😁😁
It's not a Freudian slip if it's intentional
@@sleepyhead9905do you listen to SG regularly!! He’s a recovering Lutyens journalist who’d never in a million years say that intentionally!! But, thanks for your definition of Freudian slip LOL!!
@@7hills812 are you sure he's recovering, not merely feigning...
Indira Gandhi may have been the most significant prime minister for Bangladesh.
But for India, it is PV Narasimha Rao who was the most significant Prime Minister
Epitome of corruption, negator of very concept of independence. Indira's traumatic legacy not only finished Congress but built unbreachable wall between illgotten wealth of neo rich, middle class, and poor. BJP's raise can be traced to last years of Indira's premiership.
IG was the greatest Indian leader, the Congress party is not able to articulate it. She divided Pakistan into two countries. Added one country (Sikkim) to India’s territory without firings a single bullet. Which leader can boast of such a feat.
Landed achievements are faded by economic stupidity for cheap votes. Narasimha Rao and Vajpayee are a far more honourable for improving improving economic policy despite with shaky coalition
@@srajandikshit7590 the primary objective of a leader is to protect the country at its territory.
She also created LTTE and the Khalistan movement which endangered the country.
Creating Bangladesh did not help India in any way. She gave up a great opportunity to protect Hindus in Bangladesh. On top of it, she squandered at the negotiating what Army achieved on the field, by releasing 93,000 Pak soldiers without solving Kashmir or even without securing Indian soldiers’ release from Pak jails. She was over-rated bad leader - both domestically and internationally- esp. vis-a-vis Pakistan
@@7hills812 there are some people who cannot think beyond Hindu and Muslim.
She remains one of the greatest leaders of India.
Title: "Has anticipated India arrived?"
How can a slave can forget his Master? Not related / political comment… It may provoke some
Shekar Gupta the journalist with an encyclopaedia of experience.
Great to hear about new book. All the best.
India, for which Jawans to PMs have shed blood, is today being held hostage by a few fiends. If there is justice in this world, this cannot be India's story. India will not self-destruct due to communal and ideological divides, it should make us stronger. India should be the rightful heir to global leadership of this world.
Indira Gandhi was a pragmatic leader 👍and we were proud of her.
Name of the Book... "NAMO & His Dashavatar"
Jitna empowerment indira gandhi ne desh ke garib logon ko diya utna kisi ne nahi diya. Unke bete ne bhi nahi.
She was mother of majority of Indians. Tributes to her
From the Ashes ... India Rises
Nice one
Economically you are completely wrong ,India technically has attained the same per capita income rank we had after indeoendence after years of growth after 1991. This is purely due to destruction of the economy during her reign.
My respect for the great lady!! As a Bangladeshi we shall remember her with great reverence always!!!
Your CTC is so dense in information (or maybe it's me who is dense 🙂) that I have to rewind some sections several times to take it in. Thanks Shekar ji 🙏
She was absolutely disastrous when it came to economic policies. Atleast Russia got industrialized during their socialism. What did we do?
The most powerful PM India has seen.
Blast from the past! Classic SG CTC. These are the most fun to watch. Like hearing a fun story!
Excellent episode . Brought out hitherto unknown aspects of Mrs. Gandhi's persona.
😂😂😂😂as expected, congress chamche(who call themselves journalists ) doing their masters job... did not mention about emergency to inflation rate
Presstitutes of European white masters & their Brown British slaves aka Congressi / fake Gandhi family can say anything to serve their masters!!
SG sir, your CTC brings to mind a conversation I once had with a former client. I had used to tell her the delivery would be by EoD. After a few instances she amusingly asked, 'When exactly is your EoD?' (pun intended)
Beautiful episode sir🙏
SG - We all know where your loyalty lies... obviously towards CONgressis but to this extent...? It is too much. I guess, an objective assessment of all that she has done during her tenure would have been a more appropriate tribute... Just on a side note between Sardar Patel and Indira Gandhi - My vote would be for Sardar saheb anyday because I dont like Emergency, fiddling the Preamble of the Constitution, appeasement politics and her going to Babur's burial place in Afghanistan and many more such acts, period...
I think its fair to say that without Sardar Patel's vision, India had a real chance of crumbling away later. But it is also fair to say that Nehru's at times naïve idealism and Indira's extreme personification of a queen saved India a lot of damage people like Majumdar, JP and Morarji Desai could've inflicted.
Well said 👏 👌 👍. Appreciate your honest truthful journalism ❤
Extreme Left give Life to Extreme Right
Superb ShekharJi. New facts, and insights, and many times, your videos become better than "realistic" movies!!
Thank you!!
Here is my suggestion for your coming book.
Modi-BJP Era (2014 to 2024)
Winds of Social, Political, Economic and Ideological change in India
Another
Tagline
What has remained and what has changed
Politics Defence Security overall and Economy Law etc The Print does great work on all but the Experienced Story telling i.e the observation of the past like shekher ji did today is really great and helps in understanding Decision making and attitudes political leadership of our country have.
Thank you for supporting and appreciating our journalism, my friend. It means a lot. Do keep watching and writing in...best wishes, Shekhar
It's funny how many of the KGB's New Delhi roaster-era journalists, intellectuals, bureaucrats, politicians, and the judiciary are always keen to find the silver lining in the dark age of India’s HARDLY Democracy, during the Indira era. Even her nationalism was for political gains and not genuinely felt karma.
Not funny if you factor in their shifting roster en masse to CCP
Very good informative video
.thanx sekhar ji
She put an Iron rod into Indian economy heart. Nationalization of banks was the worst. Economic left and social left is the worst combination for any country. NAMO has brought more strength to rhe economy in real terms through real infra building and digital infra built. Am am economist, not a bhakt.
She chose rhe soviet economy model. Anti FDi+ closed economy+ anti free markets + high tax rates during hwr time. Namo is the ulta of this
Indicate Gandhi was one of the worst Prime Minister. She doubled down on Nehru’s socialism. It was Indira who incorporated socialism into the the Indian constitution.
She nationalized bank. It has taken the Modi govt. to finally set the banking on a sound system. During her time the congress party and Indira illegally transferred large sum of money from the banks. There was a famous incident when this person called a bank and imitating in Indira Gandhi voice ask for a transfer of large sum of money, which the bank promptly delivered. A culture of corruption and nepotism created by Gandhi is still a burden in India.
Not to mention so many state govt. elected govt. were overthrown and president rule imposed on her whims.
We are still recovering from her bad economic policies.
If at all she realized that she had make a change and mice away from socialism late in her reign, it was too little and too late for millions of Indians. The years between Nehru through Indira will go down as the wasted years, and the lost of two generations for Indians.
The only positive thing that happened during her rule was the liberation of Bangladeshi Desh.
Shekar Gupta and his story telling is like grandfather's cute old stories. Quaint Anachronism.
Nice ❤
Lioness of asia
Indira Gandhi is the best prime minister of India.
Excellent analysis
She was most significant
No doubt abt that
Glad to see shejharji on full hair😊
Indira Gandhi in her first stage in the 1970s was in the correct path,which you may not like being a right winger. In her second stage in the 1980s she only reacted and there was a loss of direction.
Title for last 10 years "India - Beyond the Moral Ground"
And Saif's named his son Taimur
Not At All.... The opening line, there's no comparison.. Hence the famous lines in British News Paper in 2014
According to you...Khalistanis still hate him
Observation 🎉
Yes saar. On paper Indira Priyadarshani a role model but in practice she had a record of dismissing state governments, put any one every one in prison. And Sanjeev the villain😅
Title The Modi years : cutting the clutter on Indian politics
Repetition of same sentences till 9:00 is where he explains actual topic in youtube
Her initial years on economy were too bad. Remember 98% tax? Later it improved. First reason was that Sanjay Gandhi became the defacto PM. Second was in emergency public sector efficiency went up. So, on the whole her performance on economy was below average. I felt ashamed and let down when Sonia Gandhi championed Food Security Bill in 2014. Gandhi, Nehru, Indira; all said that removing poverty was first priority. But after 67 years of independence we had failed to provide food security. This cannot be forgotten, or forgiven, or left out in assessment.
Your book can be titled as “India’s Jumulas years ‘
Such an interesting episode upon India’s own Iron Lady Indira Gandhi .
Being of a certain vintage now - I still remember to this day the gruesome attack upon a frail woman within her own abode .
Yes , in posterity, Mrs Gandhi did commit a lot of wrong political disasters including raising Bhindranwale to neutralise the Akali dal who in turn into a Frankenstein himself and eventually had to pay with the supreme sacrifice .
Much water has flown through the Yamuna bridge since .
We are the most privileged ones having been shared those experiences from your articles 🙏🙏
You are kind, Subhrangsu. Thank you for watching and supporting our journalism...stay well and best wishes, Shekhar
Shekhar is trying to justify Indira's socialism by saying that 1974, she started changing. The issue is this- Bank nationalization was aright decision in 1969 but what was wrong was it continued too far and now new private banks were allowed to come up. Same thing happened with other PSEs and we now have huge investments in PSEs earning hardly any return, if not huge losses. Thankfully, Air India is now out of the Govt ownership but we have so many cobwebs to clear. If it takes 40 years to clear your cobwebs of socialism and continuing, then one must note the strong grip of the socialism on our economic policies. Bottom line is - we can have any economic policy for a while but we must be able to tune it to the emerging scenarios and in the interest of the nation.
Sir, this may be an unrelated question, but since you mentioned Sanjay Gandhi I feel like asking. If Sanjay Gandhi were alive, do you think the space for BJP? Or the emergence of a leader like Narendra Modi would not have existed?
I'm waiting for ur book release and do write about Srilanka civil war too
Brilliant leader 🙏
Dear SG, here is my suggestion for your new book 'Un apologetic 10 years' 😊
Wow, you are too good! Thanks for sharing. India has such a rich history. So much to learn, so much know. Love your podcasts.
Lovely storytelling after a long time, you must do some storytelling bit more often we love to hear that ❤
Thank you, Pratap. I enjoy the storytelling too, but a situation should demand it. I'm glad you liked this episode...best wishes, Shekhar
Indra gandhi seperated pakistan defeated china at nathu la in 1967 merged sikkim with india she started rajdhani express she did operation siachen exploded nuclear bombs but congress never highlighted these points rahul gandhi and his cronies only talk market nehru even though his grandmother is by far most sucessfull pm
Suggestion for the book name.. What is left in right years
@Shekhar ji, 'India's Right Turn' may be a plausible title for your book.
SG sir, you can do story telling one full episode, we still won't complain. Please do story telling, when it's a slow news day. Thank you.
Do more often please .. 'story telling'
I'm glad you enjoyed this episode, my friend. As I said, storytelling will certainly happen, but not too often...the situation should demand it also. Thank you for watching and writing in...best wishes, Shekhar
Sir also focus on Neibourhood will Hasina win & it's impact on India. There r violant clashes
Why would the left forever discard the birth anniversary of a great leader to observe the death of another great leader. There are ways to deal with the fact they fall on the same day, the morally superior, more logical and intelligent left should be able to find a way to do both. Why even make it a left vs right issue and play into the hands of BJP. If one cuts the branch on which they sit, there's on one else to blame.
That's an awesome summation of such an obvious hypocrisy - thousand likes
If Hindu rate of growth is so bad why the #*€# did all the people come to loot India .. this is typical coupta ji..
Disagree. She was passionately feeling the sadness of the deaths. She was asking "who is going to answer the dead." Not a political question.
Thanks Shekarji; it was lovely listening to the printmedia the Shekarji way . It has a TRESURE TROVE. In Indan journalism ❤❤❤❤
Its always nice and lovely listening to ShekarGupta's style ❤❤❤
Modification of India
Title for your book-
"The Change 'We' Chose Not To See"
Title of the book should be MODI THE INDIAN DADDY
i laughed so hard when he said "povertarian UPA 2" hahaha
Indira gandhi best period and signs of string leader was 1971 era but after that she was a very bad sign for india the 42nd amnendment rise of brindenwale &sikh militancy we are still paying the price of this ...that period of history of india and USSR has taught us the idea of socialism is a very very bad idea. She was a good leader but not a great leader.
Book title: Waiting for Godot ( Good Days)
SG sir, it's okay if we do not appreciate her intellect and foreign policy. Thanks for the closing argument where you showed her appeasement towards our peaceful brothers.
Please talk more about Middle East crisis, you are ignoring the most important current event.
Sir, your title should be: Democracy: Greater of the two evils?
May her soul rest in peace
SG Sahab has pulled an impeccable Newtonian analysis of rainbow 🌈 personality called indra.
Evil comes to them who have evil intentions on others. Example in case is the Gandhi family’s (and south block’s) intent to get rid of Nepali Royal family and standing against Nepals proposal to declare Nepal a zone of peace!
Reading from the teleprompter seems mechanical, better is the inter pers off the cuff speech of a usual cut the clutter, food for thought
Nice to see a fully haired shekhar gupta ji😂😂😂😂
Anythig on spying?
Lockdown and its impact on economy... Dip in growth and projected vs actual growth pre and post economy pls.
I thought Indira Gandhi is reincarnated and fighting 2024 elections