Destiny 2: What Makes a God Roll Weapon? The Best Perks For All Guns

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  • This is my guide to god roll weapons in Destiny 2 as of Season 9. It is what I look for when I hunt for god roll weapons. It is very long. I suggest watching on 1.25x or 1.5x speed. We'll talk about masterworks, I'll go over a weapon in full detail and then we'll expand on any nuances for each archetype. Yes, this is literally 26 minutes of me saying Outlaw/Rampage. This video is not going to cover hyper-specific weapon rolls and builds for every single possible archetype. This is meant to be more of a guideline as to what I normally look for in a god roll weapon.
    If in Season 10 you'd like me to do individual weapon reviews, please let me know. I find them boring to make and I don't know how much people will really get out of them for PvE purposes since PvE perks haven't changed in years, but if people are watching, then I might as well give my perspective. What I would like to actually do is hunt down unique weapon rolls on guns in Season 10 (maybe Season 9 as well, idk) and talk about their usability. Unique weapon rolls meaning guns that can roll with perks that no other gun of its archetype can get.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 855

  • @MrAndrewaziz
    @MrAndrewaziz 4 роки тому +1916

    "If you're an experienced player you're probably not going to get a lot out of this video"
    Bold of you to assume I won't watch the whole thing anyway.

  • @Forcer69
    @Forcer69 4 роки тому +1071

    Santa didn’t bring his profile picture back :(

    • @billyyyyy__
      @billyyyyy__ 4 роки тому +8

      Forcer what happened to it??

    • @sulidos
      @sulidos 4 роки тому +63

      Ryan Meyer fenchurch snagged it

    • @zlfxith5384
      @zlfxith5384 4 роки тому

      Big oof

    • @WinniDaPooh867
      @WinniDaPooh867 4 роки тому

      Why would someone snag his profile pic? Sometimes I have to check the channel for uploads

    • @zlfxith5384
      @zlfxith5384 4 роки тому +6

      @@WinniDaPooh867 its a joke

  • @primepawnage4108
    @primepawnage4108 4 роки тому +881

    Outlaw/Rampage: The Video: The Movie: The Series: The Game

    • @imakkoh1828
      @imakkoh1828 4 роки тому +27

      Cant forget the book

    • @DragonKnight90001
      @DragonKnight90001 4 роки тому +21

      The musical

    • @theplaguedmoose
      @theplaguedmoose 4 роки тому +23

      Outlaw/Rampage: The Video: The Movie: The Series: The Game: The Book: The Sequel: The Musical: The Prequel: The Company: The Electric Boogaloo
      I love this joke.

    • @whitebond2812
      @whitebond2812 4 роки тому +5

      The minimoose The manga...

    • @AbysswalkerGray
      @AbysswalkerGray 4 роки тому +2

      I'm sick of that combo.

  • @Charles-sj7zl
    @Charles-sj7zl 4 роки тому +2402

    Datto’s parents were happy they made a god rolled child.

    • @hernandez9350
      @hernandez9350 4 роки тому +27

      Black Sperm even came with glasses

    • @son0fgrim
      @son0fgrim 4 роки тому +89

      i dunno, they coulda rolled intelligence and discipline a lil higher...

    • @shakenbaken9495
      @shakenbaken9495 4 роки тому +9

      Nah that's byf lol datto got the "god roll titan child" taken byf has the warlock title lol

    • @huleyn135
      @huleyn135 4 роки тому +7

      Lmao fuck no. Datto is such a loser.

    • @ElBurdo
      @ElBurdo 4 роки тому +18

      He's a cross-dresser with a short temper and a condescending attitude. That ain't no God roll, baby.

  • @fullchoke7876
    @fullchoke7876 4 роки тому +275

    UA-cam pls give this man back his picture.

    • @WhiplashSL
      @WhiplashSL 4 роки тому

      Wait, what happened to his profile picture?

    • @kennythelenny6819
      @kennythelenny6819 4 роки тому

      Yeah what happened?

    • @arksy8703
      @arksy8703 4 роки тому +25

      WhiplashSL he accidentally dismantled it

    • @quill7889
      @quill7889 4 роки тому

      @@arksy8703 lmao

    • @shrekthedank1999
      @shrekthedank1999 4 роки тому +2

      @@quill7889 cannot require randomised gear

  • @REL3NTLESS1337
    @REL3NTLESS1337 4 роки тому +138

    Tbh I'm an avid player and know literally everything in this video inside and out but getting to listen to Daddy Datto speak for 25 mins is not something I'm about to pass up

    • @REL3NTLESS1337
      @REL3NTLESS1337 4 роки тому +4

      @Gideon U I mean sure ff is generally better overall but the idea he puts forward here is that it doesnt really matter which considering how much the game practically plays itself to begin with lmao, i roll ff on everything as well.

  • @thezebiano
    @thezebiano 2 роки тому +16

    I'd love to get an updated version of this video, now that crafting is out and a bunch of new weapons/perks as well. :)

  • @jackhorton9258
    @jackhorton9258 2 роки тому +11

    Would love an updated guide to god rolls, some of this is still really relevant - like the idea that you should look for universal rather than situational perks- but lots to update on!

  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
    @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 4 роки тому +38

    26 minutes of awesomeness. Perfect way to end 2019.

    • @Charles-sj7zl
      @Charles-sj7zl 4 роки тому

      Just Some Guy without a Mustache There’s still 14 hours

    • @yolkthosenuts
      @yolkthosenuts 4 роки тому

      Kono "Just Some Guy without a Mustache" da!

    • @samuelshiloh2316
      @samuelshiloh2316 4 роки тому +1

      @@Charles-sj7zl Good bye, Jojo

    • @johnnyrae6448
      @johnnyrae6448 4 роки тому

      You play both Smite and Destiny?

    • @niko3860
      @niko3860 4 роки тому +4

      Why are you everywhere?? Who are you?

  • @sb50cal9
    @sb50cal9 4 роки тому +98

    "If you're an experienced player I'm not sure how much you'll get out of this video"
    Joy, Datto. Joy.

    • @kddatrapmane
      @kddatrapmane 4 роки тому

      SB 50cal that’s what happened when contents are dry ... the gane is balanced now , no fun op exotics and it got boring again lol

    • @Widowslayker
      @Widowslayker 4 роки тому

      @@kddatrapmane I think you're drunk 4Head :)

    • @Whateverhahaugetit
      @Whateverhahaugetit 4 роки тому

      @@kddatrapmane the game ain't boring but alright jackass lol

    • @kadedeason4795
      @kadedeason4795 4 роки тому

      @@kddatrapmane kinda true haha

  • @cdntitan5056
    @cdntitan5056 4 роки тому +194

    Whenever I see his regular profile pic I thought it was a random channel I subbed to lol

  • @blackandtwo7795
    @blackandtwo7795 4 роки тому +26

    literally just rolled into 2020 and it's immediately blessed with a Datto upload. Happy New Year my dude

    • @ricksukhra4366
      @ricksukhra4366 4 роки тому +1

      @@-Xeno- Right!? they didnt even warn us about 9/11 smh

    • @-Xeno-
      @-Xeno- 4 роки тому +2

      @@ricksukhra4366 oMg yOu aRe rIgHt, sUcH aSsHoLeS

    • @TeamGrimm07
      @TeamGrimm07 4 роки тому

      2020 hasn’t been too happy

  • @SunSun-sk4si
    @SunSun-sk4si 4 роки тому +28

    11:04 It should be noted that higher zoom magnification gives a hidden boost to range.
    Obviously the zoom will be subjective to the user (and most people prefer lower zoom), but it does have a mechanical advantage.
    18:00 Counterbalance is actually a bit more complicated than that. With how recoil direction actually works, you want the recoil direction to be as close to ending in 5 as you can, and CB mod gives 15.
    You get better use out of it if your weapon already has a much more horizontal recoil (ending in 0), and it can actually hurt your recoil if it's already vertical (ending in 5). You can find this hidden stat in 3rd party API applications like DIM.

    • @Man-xg2fc
      @Man-xg2fc 4 роки тому

      MCFire do you know the shader on the duke he is using? I know it’s totally irrelevant to the conversation but I NEED IT

    • @SunSun-sk4si
      @SunSun-sk4si 4 роки тому

      Stormgoblîñ?X Looks like Gambit Emerald

  • @humbertorosario4085
    @humbertorosario4085 4 роки тому +3

    @Datto is the definition of an audio book, i can literally drive, listen and learn from this guardian’s content, am a D1/D2 vet but still learn from him.

  • @justinchalichemala5365
    @justinchalichemala5365 4 роки тому +59

    Hey Datto, the Menagerie fusion rifle Epicurean can role with Feeding Frenzy + Kill Clip. Great PvE role

    • @Sohelanthropus
      @Sohelanthropus 4 роки тому +2

      Yup, I got it with Swashbuckler it's pretty good.

    • @kouguy8213
      @kouguy8213 4 роки тому

      Yep got one with: Fullbore...Projection Fuse...FF...Killclip...MW Range...Range is 95. Still haven’t use it once since I got it 4 months ago.

    • @rameenkashanikhah7042
      @rameenkashanikhah7042 4 роки тому +1

      I was about to say the same I got feeding frenzy swashbuckler it’s great especially with this seasons mods and double special ammo builds. I like the fast firing fusions too. IMO there’s no reason to use any shotgun over rapid fire fusions since they nerfed shotguns they reload in animation instead of individual bullets.

    • @rameenkashanikhah7042
      @rameenkashanikhah7042 4 роки тому

      They reload in one animation *

    • @fobgamer7080
      @fobgamer7080 4 роки тому

      @@rameenkashanikhah7042 well there is one two punch on shotguns which is arguably the best single target dps perk in the game.

  • @seb5542
    @seb5542 4 роки тому +109

    They need to buff some of the other perks really.

    • @Veixlix
      @Veixlix 4 роки тому +3

      but we all know bungie only listens to a post on reddit that got 20k upvotes 4 months ago addressing a issue.

    • @GeoGoFigure
      @GeoGoFigure 4 роки тому

      God yh especially zen moment for console

    • @seb5542
      @seb5542 4 роки тому

      @@GeoGoFigure and Zen moment is actually one of the better ones which is just terrible. Because when you look ay other perks they are just shit.

    • @GeoGoFigure
      @GeoGoFigure 4 роки тому +1

      God yh but as console doesn’t even have half the amount of stability as pc does it would make sense for them to make zen moment more effective

    • @Whateverhahaugetit
      @Whateverhahaugetit 4 роки тому

      @@seb5542 dragonfly is pretty fucking good im js lol

  • @Cool_Calm_Cam
    @Cool_Calm_Cam 4 роки тому +3

    Especially with your Steelfeather Repeater example, I want to note that S9 pass holders can permanently unlock an alternate fourth perk once they hit rank 92. Based on luck, that can dramatically increase your options with gun loadouts by letting you keep one weapon for different situations.

  • @14K_Zo
    @14K_Zo 4 роки тому +52

    Datto: “you’ll be fine”
    Me: *looks at grave robber zen moment translation theory*

    • @JJ-gy1wu
      @JJ-gy1wu 4 роки тому +6

      Zen moment is nice tbh

    • @GnuFrontiers
      @GnuFrontiers 4 роки тому +3

      Do it

    • @SurrealLeaf
      @SurrealLeaf 4 роки тому +3

      What about my Subsistence + High impact reserves SMG? :(

  • @hforheavenly
    @hforheavenly 4 роки тому +4

    00:25 oh dont worry datto im not here for the perks. im here for that beautiful voice and video quality

  • @epicgamerzfail4575
    @epicgamerzfail4575 4 роки тому +41

    Ah, 26 minutes of "Get a reload and a damage perk". Gotta love that perk variety.

    • @ignitron2710
      @ignitron2710 4 роки тому +4

      What else you want in a game where dealing the most dmg possible is the best option

    • @SgtNivy
      @SgtNivy 4 роки тому +20

      @@ignitron2710 don't miss the point, I think its fair to criticize the perks regardless of what would work best in Destiny, for instance perhaps they could buff all other perks so that their effects are as significant as a damage buff perk. Its really frustrating when defeatists like you simply give up because "damage is king on games like Destiny" and while thats not exactly wrong demolitionist is a perfect example of a perk that helps a build without being simply damage (you get more grenades = more damage and area control)

    • @jjakkal_
      @jjakkal_ 4 роки тому +5

      N 2 I want hip fire grip on my sniper and outlaw on my spread shotguns.

    • @ignitron2710
      @ignitron2710 4 роки тому +2

      @@SgtNivy Im not defending this idea I'm just saying that it's obvious that a reload perk and a dmg perk are the way to go in this game

    • @BrandonMikelPaul
      @BrandonMikelPaul 3 роки тому

      @@SgtNivy you’re funny + good point

  • @elicrane2221
    @elicrane2221 4 роки тому +290

    What makes a gun _good?_
    **Looks at Wish-Ender**
    Glitches baby.

    • @HibiscusOrchid
      @HibiscusOrchid 4 роки тому +9

      I hope they keep that. There's no other reason to use an Exotic, high impact, primary bow.
      They should make an option to make it use special ammo for more damage.

    • @stevenlpearson27
      @stevenlpearson27 4 роки тому +1

      Just don’t use for precision kills It seems to take longer for me to complete those type of bounties with it lol

    • @stronkbad5007
      @stronkbad5007 4 роки тому

      😅

    • @nicholasputzigerjoannidis6943
      @nicholasputzigerjoannidis6943 4 роки тому +3

      Glitches, you say? CoughTELESTOCough.

    • @therealcactoos9457
      @therealcactoos9457 4 роки тому +2

      steven pearson It usually kills with the Exit Damage, which doesn’t count as a headshot

  • @theodorefulford3682
    @theodorefulford3682 4 роки тому +4

    I still watched this video in case I was missing something. Still loved it because it reaffirmed what I already knew.

  • @MilkTsunami
    @MilkTsunami 3 роки тому +1

    Seeing videos like this just makes me wonder how many times I’ve scrapped a god roll when I didn’t really know what I was doing.

    • @Gottgamerrasm
      @Gottgamerrasm 3 роки тому

      I started destiny 2 for the first time ever about a week ago or so, finally made it 1200 but I bet I've made some first player mistakes infusing and scraping guns and armor for whatever. I definitely need to look more into perks for guns now at least.

  • @mikesgamer12
    @mikesgamer12 4 роки тому +1

    "outlaw, rampage, the video." fell out of destiny 2 for a couple of years, and you gave me what i wanted to know in 35 seconds. nice

  • @NyoMurdi
    @NyoMurdi 4 роки тому +2

    There’s other ways to use your primaries other than just killing things; the new Sundial Sidearm can roll with Demolitionist and Osmosis, so you can get grenades quickly and use Osmosis to deal with elemental shields without burning abilities, special or heavy ammo, was very useful this past nightfall which had a famine modifier

  • @RHTPCS04
    @RHTPCS04 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks Datto for taking the time to put this together I’m an average player who does not get to jump on and play as much. I’ve been playing Destiny for a while now and I have always struggled wondering why I die so quickly (I’m suspecting it’s my playing ability), thanks so much :)

  • @bertuhn8205
    @bertuhn8205 4 роки тому +3

    A perk to reload fast, a perk to do more damage
    Something that I've noticed is that in d1 this wasn't as bad as in d2 or at least it didn't feel like it, I imagine it was because normal legendaries were the weapons that one would farm good rolls to carry you though the dlc and raid weapons were (almost always) weapons with new perks and very good ones so that would make it so it didn't feel as repetitive

  • @trombonerist2856
    @trombonerist2856 4 роки тому +1

    You can watch this video in 2x speed and still understand what he is saying. Truly the master of creating content.

  • @cytofusion6072
    @cytofusion6072 3 роки тому +1

    Rewatching this video in the era of Fatebringer (Timelost) is a trip. Datto had no idea what was coming.

  • @incendiarypoprocks8700
    @incendiarypoprocks8700 4 роки тому +2

    Great vid! Only issues are that Love and Death can ALSO roll Full Court as well as Spikes and Field Prep. Chromatic fire cannot unfortunately not stack with Oxygen, it only works on kinetics.

  • @soldiergaming2722
    @soldiergaming2722 2 роки тому

    TYSM! Just got back into D2, and I wanted know what perks to hunt for and for what guns. This made it simple! Much love Guardian

  • @NightSwipe17
    @NightSwipe17 4 роки тому +2

    Recommended this to my friends instantly, this is perfect. Thank you Datto!

  • @icyflame352
    @icyflame352 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for supplying some quality content, laughs, and gameplay throughout the year Datto. This video is the perfect way to end the year. Looking forward to what you have to offer in 2020 and beyond!

  • @Akeche
    @Akeche 4 роки тому +2

    It honestly sounds like...
    "Use what fits your style of play." Which really, is kinda the best advice for any RPG. A lot of people point to builds and say this is the best, if you don't use this then you're bad. When honestly a person is better off with something they're comfortable with and can actually pull off.

    • @SomeFreakingCactus
      @SomeFreakingCactus 4 роки тому +1

      As a new player, that’s what I’m getting too.
      When I first started playing in Season 8, my favorite weapon, my pride and joy, was a black armory prototype kinetic SMG, with dynamic sway reduction and the power reserves perk. Then I equipped the SMG shield breaker mod.
      As a result, I damaged shields far more than anyone expected me to. And by then, my power reserves and sway reduction kicked in for the kill.
      This made me and my gun behave in an unorthodox way, catching people off-guard.

  • @Patriarch2218
    @Patriarch2218 4 роки тому +175

    top god rolls: recluse

    • @young7783
      @young7783 4 роки тому +3

      Not anymore! Kinda..

    • @sulidos
      @sulidos 4 роки тому +23

      Young if you're aiming it's still amazing

    • @Logan-lm2vl
      @Logan-lm2vl 4 роки тому +13

      Young what do you mean, master of arms is a top damage perk, combined with feeding frenzy and richochet rounds this roll wise is a good example of a god roll smg

    • @young7783
      @young7783 4 роки тому +14

      Last Hope with feeding frenzy + multikillclip simply is better. Tho, its probably easier to obtain recluse. Not saying its trash or anything, just that there are more options after the nerf now

    • @young7783
      @young7783 4 роки тому +1

      @@sulidos I think everyone ADS's and goes for crits with almost every gun anyway....

  • @ericjhughes3527
    @ericjhughes3527 4 роки тому +16

    "...this is literally Outlaw, Rampage The Video..."😂👍

  • @wadesworld9509
    @wadesworld9509 2 роки тому

    Coming back to this video for nostalgic vibes and it’s crazy to see how much the game has changed. 😃😄

  • @joshuasbrooks
    @joshuasbrooks 4 роки тому

    I did some extensive testing recently with Handcannons testing how their range stat impacts bullet magnetization, damage for both max damage range, then falloff damage, how effective Explosive Payload is and then also how perks like Slideshot, Rangefinder and Opening Shot impact damage ranges. Right now the range stat itself means very little, a 20 point difference in range stat equals roughly 1m extra in max damage range and then also 2 damage in damage drop off across ranges. Whilst the damage differences may be near irrelevant you do see more bullet mag at longer ranges (30+ meters) with a higher range stat. Rangefinder, Opening Shot and Slideshot however make a HUGE impact to range. With a +2-3m max damage range but more importantly a huge impact on damage drop off. A high range Spare rations (Range MW, Ricochet Rounds and a range increasing barrel) without rangefinder or Slideshot active will hit 44 at 35m but with Rangefinder with a high range roll (only difference range wise was having a hammer forged barrel vs the first having smallbore) deals 51 damage at 35m.

  • @cjs910
    @cjs910 4 роки тому +3

    Honestly I’d just like to see a list of every weapon that has random perks and what the god rolls are on them

  • @reeze1895
    @reeze1895 2 роки тому

    Just started playing D2 in October, really needed this video. This bro. Subscribed 👍

  • @glabuser2176
    @glabuser2176 4 роки тому +4

    Multi kill clip and outlaw
    Datto noises intensify

  • @nebiyuesayas5600
    @nebiyuesayas5600 4 роки тому +1

    My only problem with this video is Fullbore. Fullbore is bad on console because of stability, while you can run with it on OC, the range cap makes me feel like it's not needed.

  • @-whiskey-4134
    @-whiskey-4134 4 роки тому

    Now for perks...tbh mostly what I look for is rampage and/or auto loading holster. I like to play support and demolish adds with that weapon masterworked to generate orbs and gain super energy to help my team and be able to swap weapons on the fly and have them reload themselves if im not using them at the time so i can keep swapping around if need be to keep the damage output going nonstop. For me it also helps during boss battles and damage phases. That’s probably not most peoples “god roll” , but it works well for my play style. For my armor my perks are basically selected for grenade and melee regeneration. I tend to focus on my neutral game more than anything with my abilities being used in select situations, usually when I’m focusing on a melee/healing solo build. Otherwise I’m standing my Well of Radiance combined with an empowering rift and unloading on trash mobs, mostly if I’m using Risk Runner and Breakneck with a fast firing Grenade Launcher, Veritys Brow or Phoenix Protocol. Probably sounds dumb to a lot of people, but I enjoy it lol Plus I’m more of a solo player so I like a middle ground between offense and defense and can work well for both solo or team play if done right. To each their own though.

  • @p5gBand
    @p5gBand 4 роки тому

    Thanks Datto, very comprehensive guide. I know that this must have taken a very long time to compile so it is very appreciated. Oh and Happy New Year

  • @innocentiuslacrim2290
    @innocentiuslacrim2290 4 роки тому

    There are a few guns that can roll with demolitionist and rampage, which is a very nice combo. Gallant charge for fusions and breachlight for sidearms for example. Infinite paths can roll with demolitionist + swashbuckler. I really like those combos. Then I also got the pulse rifle Chattering Bone ages ago with Rampage + Full auto. I like full auto more than I probably should, but it makes guns a lot easier to use for me, so I stick it on when available. That Chattering Bone was a nice find for me and I have used it a lot.

  • @grafitea
    @grafitea 4 роки тому

    I've been purging my vault lately and tossing or infusing garbage rolls into the better low rolls IF I have them. Thanks for the refresher video Datto!

  • @allseeingsage214
    @allseeingsage214 4 роки тому +1

    Under pressure and high impact reserves don't work that way. It is the bottom half of the magazine from the last reload. Spawn with two shots only the second shot gets a boost.

  • @SumptuousMeat
    @SumptuousMeat 4 роки тому +3

    55,352 kills with the Go Figure. Think I was watching the stream when he got in back in Forsaken lol.

  • @MOERKMOERT
    @MOERKMOERT 4 роки тому

    Top tree arcstrider, Liars handshake, Python shotgun with one-two and buzzard with swashbuckler! beast of a build!

  • @DeLawrence97
    @DeLawrence97 4 роки тому

    I'm a new player with under 100 hours player and I called it as soon as I saw the title. "What's this gonna be, Outlaw, Rampage or go home?"
    I dropped a few legendaries with these perks and they instantly felt mighty powerful compared to others.

  • @valzicplayz3845
    @valzicplayz3845 4 роки тому +22

    Zavala: "What makes a Guardian a Guardian"
    *_"Thier weapons god rolls"_*

  • @gianturtlecow1455
    @gianturtlecow1455 4 роки тому +1

    Is there a good video for some of these topics in more depth? explaining what outlaw and the other perk actually do, how to tell if a weapon has vertical or horizontal recoil, details on master working and the weird energy stat on armor? new and looking to dive deeper into destiny. thanks!

  • @ZuggiDnB
    @ZuggiDnB 4 роки тому

    I know bows aren't super popular, but one thing thats well worth considering with your rolls is how effective 'dragonfly' is as a perk. Given the already high impact, as long as your aim is true, you can pratically turn your bow into a poor mans grenade launcher-with-range.
    I've used subtle calamity long enough to rack up over 7000 kills with Dragonfly & Explosive Head as the main perks- by far not the classic 'god roll' perks, but the damage output is actually pretty crazy, even more buffed when you add the 'unstoppable shot' perk with the Osiris Charm unlock.
    I have another bow (arsenic bite) with masterworked draw speed, archers tempo and rampage- and it basically lives in my vault unless Im running pvp- my subtle calamity might not be a classic 'god roll', but to me its damn near an exotic bow.
    In short- god rolls are only god rolls if it fits your playing style. Dattos video is a good starting point, but only YOU can decide what a god roll means to you.

  • @SuperMario7891
    @SuperMario7891 4 роки тому

    They gotta boost the other perks to make guns more unique and fun for a general guardian to make the weapon their top weapon to use. For Destiny 1, my number 1 to use in all activities was Angel’s Advocate. The weapon’s main perks were Triple Tap and Explosive Rounds. I always had this gun with me and it helped me solo Nightfalls.
    For Destiny 2, I love the weapons, and have a few favorites like everyone else. However, I don’t have a weapon that is my to go to weapon. I use some weapons for certain activities, but I would switch to a different weapon afterwards.
    When I swap to different weapons in Destiny 1, it was just to get a taste of the weapon, but it never replaced Angel’s Advocate. My primary slot belonged to Angel’s Advocate. I hope for Bungie to boost other perks to be great as Outlaw and Rampage to make other weapons more of a option whether than just a purpose for certain activities. I remember getting the sniper rifle from the crucible in Destiny that I would use in raids when I didn’t have Icebreaker or sniper rifle from Siva Raid.

  • @MCGrassblock210
    @MCGrassblock210 2 роки тому

    I don’t spam Outlaw and Rampage. It’s a good combo but isn’t the only one. I know this video isn’t exactly new, but in Beyond Light, I got a Bonechiller (precision frame slug shotgun) with Range, Firmly Planted and Slideshot. I’m satisfied with it since it offers a different way to play with shotguns, even if it isn’t exactly ideal in the eyes of other players; PvP-wise anyway. Hell, I have a Messenger I use for PvE: Moving Target, Frenzy, Range, Ricochet Rounds and Chambered Compensator. I end up with a highly accurate High Impact Frame pulse rifle with a recoil pattern that gives precision frames a run for their glimmer without sacrificing stopping power or the ability to fire at extended ranges.

  • @deanwalker38
    @deanwalker38 4 роки тому

    Datto thx you nailed it .
    You explained the perks even I understood lol.
    Have a happy new year

  • @osamatayeb4027
    @osamatayeb4027 4 роки тому

    I should note that masterworking weapons will give it the ability to generate orbs on multi-kills, which can be really important in endgame content and build crafting (that's why I solely use masterwork specials and primaries when I am using Wendigo)

  • @jameswright1284
    @jameswright1284 4 роки тому

    Datto your the best. Period. I’m an experienced player and took your wanting knowing what you were gonna say yet still found this video entertaining. Love you

  • @JPB-mb6si
    @JPB-mb6si 3 роки тому

    That duke at 11:07 is givin me destiny 1 vibes with the perk tree

  • @silverthehero1295
    @silverthehero1295 4 роки тому

    What I like to keep in mind for perks is synergy. Even perks I don’t normally care for work if they pair well with another.
    Ambitious Assassin is something I don’t look for, but I kept a Steelfeather that rolled it and Multi Kill Clip.Or Proximity Detector and Surrounded on Calus Mini-tool.

  • @iDaleeyy
    @iDaleeyy 2 роки тому

    I'd be really keen for an updated video on this topic.

  • @citrusjelly9069
    @citrusjelly9069 4 роки тому +1

    Great video man! Thanks for putting this together.

  • @sparky00777
    @sparky00777 4 роки тому

    Swashbuckler is insane on Slug Shotguns for PvP. Bodyshot + Melee, gives you a kill and 5 stacks of swashbuckler. Then you can 1 shot people to the body with a slug shotgun afterwards for a few seconds, refreshing the timer with each kill.

  • @kscotth
    @kscotth 4 роки тому +1

    Stability is slept on on many weapons and archetypes on PC, even in PVP. Using Patron of Lost Causes as an example, a roll like rapid hit/steady rounds/arrowhead brake or chambered compensator or extended barrel/stability masterwork is going to make the gun shoot flat as a pancake. This type of roll is a crit-pummeler in PVP -- exactly what you want. While range perks can make a gun feel "crispy," in this case, the gun has plenty of range on any map in Destiny without them and the overall buff to stability is extremely noticeable. A counterbalance mod will aid this particular weapon too but if you're low-manning/solo'ing 980 NF's like me, a different mod is required. There are many good rolls of this weapon but I'm highlighting that roll because these are perks not typically sought after on PC and yet it's better than any version that has a bunch of range.
    Point is, PC players: Sometimes it's range, sometimes it's not. Don't just scrap guns in this sandbox because they don't have range. Range in D2 is great, but quite often not optimal. Especially for PVE. Range is also a very "alpha" stat if you know what I mean so it's easy to have bias towards it. Everyone wants to be longer than the next guy. It's also easy to listen to some of the more flaky talking heads of Destiny (not Datto) and absorb some of their theories as gospel. Test your guns and trust your findings if you really wanna min-max weapon rolls. Some of you have probably scrapped hundreds of optimal rolls on all kinds of guns because they didn't have any range. I've done my fair share for sure.

    • @coldnemssis
      @coldnemssis 4 роки тому

      This ^ Many of the weapon we try to get MAX range just get 2-4m more but Stability or even Handling stat impact a hell of a lot more.

  • @mirkatofficial
    @mirkatofficial 4 роки тому

    Lmao I always get the Outlaw/Rampage on guns because obvs. But SECRETLY I feel more joy when I get a good Dragonfly roll. Those are usually my for fun, goofin’ around guns that end up with thousands and thousands of kills. I know it’s not Optimal but it feels so good to use!

  • @Chac500
    @Chac500 4 роки тому +1

    Halfdan-D is my go to. Range of a sniper with decent damage in an auto rifle. Mine came with outlaw, tactical mag in a high impact frame. Also great for pvp!

  • @klot2675
    @klot2675 4 роки тому

    in my area, you posted this exactly at 00:00 1/1/2020. great job!

  • @citylifechurchlivestreamin7160
    @citylifechurchlivestreamin7160 4 роки тому

    Thanks as always for the guide, Datto!

  • @ILL1983
    @ILL1983 4 роки тому

    Thank you, this was just the video i've been looking for! Much needed info!!

  • @alexholcomb8155
    @alexholcomb8155 4 роки тому +2

    Something interesting I found out with my grave robber/multikill clip steelfeather repeater was that getting kills and then activating grave robber does activate the bonus damage. Just thought that was useful.

  • @legi0n47x
    @legi0n47x 4 роки тому

    The new Vorpal Perk is great in Gambit IMO. I don't play the mode a lot but when the game demands it for quests/seasonal crap, etc., it's what I use now.

  • @chucktownattack
    @chucktownattack 4 роки тому

    I love Outlaw so much. To this day, I just love that snappy wrist flick. Also reminds me of that rap line "outlaw, DJ Paul..."

    • @chucktownattack
      @chucktownattack 4 роки тому

      Should say I mean specifically with handcannons.

  • @IzanamisBurden
    @IzanamisBurden 4 роки тому

    You guys are never gonna believe this, I got a recluse with feeding frenzy/master of arms AND a Randy's throwing knife with rapid hit/ kill clip! Crazy how that works.

  • @brici7164
    @brici7164 4 роки тому +2

    Happy new year Datto!!!!

  • @dariusdorsey8515
    @dariusdorsey8515 4 роки тому

    I think a breakdown of bows would be good with special mention focus on the current state of wishender. By numbers it does more per hit than sniper but less dps than snipers on that same note. And for legendary bows no matter what string or masterwork you use, there is a hard cap with archers tempo. Personal bias in me says bows as an general archetype can use a focus power tuning a little upwards and wishender is not as bad as people are making it out to be, it is more like a better ammo economy, lower dps, higher impact sniper (a makeshift 50-45rpm archetype sniper in a sense).

  • @HoopleHeadUSA
    @HoopleHeadUSA 4 роки тому

    Echoes the overall sentiment, so many options but very few actually matter

  • @WhiplashSL
    @WhiplashSL 4 роки тому +1

    Hoping there's a video showing whether bottom tree Gunslinger with or without Celestial Nighthawk is better.

  • @PACKERMAN2077
    @PACKERMAN2077 4 роки тому +1

    I Have 2 God rolls.
    A dark below fusion rifle *PRE NERF*
    _THE PLUG 1.0NE_
    Its accuracy and stability are near perfect meaning it was a laser before the sleeper stimulant existed.
    And then I had the House of wolves, new monarchy LMG the *_Executor X_*
    It had again completely maxed stability and range, combined with being a slower rate of fire heavy impact machine gun giving it almost zero recoil and it was Arc damage.
    That was infinitely valuable against the fallen.
    Weapons of this kind might not exist again

  • @latentskies
    @latentskies 4 роки тому

    I would have mentioned Tap the Trigger for 2/3 bullet burst sidearms on console. How tight the perk keeps the burst mostly negates the need to buff stability and lets you focus on range and reload. A Smuggler's Word with and without it feels like totally different weapons.

  • @hamidrezabehzadi9071
    @hamidrezabehzadi9071 4 роки тому +3

    Watching this while grinding for outlaw multikillclip breachlight

    • @mordsythe
      @mordsythe 4 роки тому

      Hamidreza Behzadi I got lucky and got mine first try. My buddy is still farming for it :/

  • @bigbossbernard
    @bigbossbernard 4 роки тому +1

    Steelfeather repeater with ambitious assassin is amazing. 100+ mag with kill clip ;)

  • @zackphy
    @zackphy 4 роки тому

    They're all worth masterworking in pve regardless of which one you get solely for the orbs on multis. Getting your super faster and all the other perks/mods focused on orbs and even bounties means masterworked weapons are essential. I almost won't use an exotic weapon that doesn't have a catalyst just because I can't get orbs from it. Oh and the kill tracker is cool also lol.

  • @coledeb
    @coledeb 4 роки тому

    To me, the perk bonus you get from masterworking is only part of it. Regardless of if you have a "shitty masterwork" that may not be worth the cores on its own, the fact that you can generate orbs by fully upgrading it is essential to consider for a primary. Lots of things like the Recuperation class item mod, Wendigo, the new charged with light perks, etc. depend on constant (or at least often) orb generation, not to mention the fact that it helps your super uptime.

  • @swift1y
    @swift1y 4 роки тому

    Great video Datto. Happy new year! Hope you enjoyed those donuts you made on stream, they looked delicious.

  • @sornok3534
    @sornok3534 4 роки тому

    D2gunsmith looks nice, I would add an option that lets you check armor mods that affect weapons. It would give a more appropriate image of what the weapon is capable to do.

  • @2nomads770
    @2nomads770 4 роки тому

    This is exactly the video I needed! Thanks Datto

  • @Primizzle
    @Primizzle 4 роки тому

    Thanks for this video, Datto! Happy New Year

  • @darkghostgamings22
    @darkghostgamings22 4 роки тому +2

    Datto: I suggest watching on 1.25 or 1.5 speed *for that optimal TTW*

  • @BlamBlur
    @BlamBlur 4 роки тому

    Last Man Standing (Shotgun), Aggressive Frame, Full Choke, Tactical Mag, Field Prep, One Two Punch, Masterworked in Range w/Major Spec(it actually dropped this way lol)
    It's my 1 man "go to" especially for the Titans

  • @bradrussell2530
    @bradrussell2530 4 роки тому

    ive been playing since house of wolves and i got more info out this then i thought i would

  • @markim5087
    @markim5087 3 роки тому

    I like that you have a video to watch unlike a black screen some other have in their videos, but someone needs to make a video showing the difference of every perk trait and the power hit points increases speed of running etc etc and compare the trait to the base stats too…

  • @vyersreaver1749
    @vyersreaver1749 4 роки тому +3

    "This is literally the 'Outlaw + Rampage - The Video'". At least you're honest.

  • @marlonthomas2713
    @marlonthomas2713 4 роки тому

    Great video. I forsee myself spending alot of time in destiny gunsmith now. Holy crap that looked awesome

  • @fyrusgrey5153
    @fyrusgrey5153 4 роки тому

    I have an Austringer with Demolitionist and Subsistence, which has proven to be much better than any outlaw/Rampage roll I've ever gotten on it. (Take my 10k PvE kills on it as some sort of proof).
    You literally never need to reload, and you're constantly getting grenade energy. You also don't really need Rampage because 140's usually kill low tier ads in one headshot regardless (especially if you're using a Minor Spec),

  • @norsegoat1408
    @norsegoat1408 4 роки тому

    Thanks for this amazing and informative video Datto!

  • @razelighter2010
    @razelighter2010 4 роки тому +31

    noobs: outlaw + rampage
    pros: rapid hit + rampage

  • @RED1NUR
    @RED1NUR 4 роки тому

    If you’re having trouble forgetting to crouch in the heat of battle to Prock field prep or firmly planted my advice would be to play fallout new Vegas. You will be crouching for every time you have to shoot in that game because crouching in that gameMeans you have reduced sway with your guns. Granted sway is not a problem in Destiny but I feel that all guns in the game do you have a hidden benefit to crouching and shooting. I think they all have their tiny little boost of firmly planted or field prep

  • @jnlewis114
    @jnlewis114 4 роки тому

    I like it. Thanks for doing the work, Datto.

  • @rsunni6620
    @rsunni6620 4 роки тому +6

    I got a Multikill Clip/Feeding Frenzy Steelfeather but since I'm on console, I struggle to use it.
    The thing's recoil pattern reminds me of Anguish of Drystan

    • @-Xeno-
      @-Xeno- 4 роки тому

      Counterbalance Stock Mod might help

    • @nathanielellis3393
      @nathanielellis3393 4 роки тому

      Graverobber with swashbuckler is underrated. It triggers with ranged melee ability kills.

    • @CheapARod
      @CheapARod 4 роки тому

      Use it on bottom tree Gunslinger and get back to me 👌👌

  • @gamerprodigy107
    @gamerprodigy107 4 роки тому

    I agree sort of. While some guns damage and reload perks are the best, that have poor amounts or that dont fit the weapon(ex swashbuckler on a pulse). Some will actually benefit more from consistency perks than lethality. What i wish bungie would do is make a penalty for running damage perks(ex rampage gives -10 range). That way people who get weapons with damage perks also have a con to them and they should be big enough to where too many will severely hurt the gun consistency. For example if rampage gave -10 range then instead outlaw/range you might go for rangefinder/rampage. Also they need hits stats that hurt all consoles aka dont hurt stability because that hurts only consoles. They can hurt range, handling, reload speed, aim assist, and maybe even mag size. Right now the main problem is there is no con to running damage perks.