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Kev Masengale that is such a great line in so many ways, but mainly because he is speaking about Anakin but the words could be equally applied to Dukko himself.
You don’t become a Slave of the Jedi, you twat. Anakin wanted to become a Jedi since he was a child. He WILLINGLY became/stayed a Jedi. Is Obi Wan a slave to the Jedi because he’s a member? Is Yoda a slave? Is Plo Koon? Windu? Tell me how’s, Anakin a slave to the Jedi but not every other Jedi who was (by your logic)...
For god's sake John Cena, I think you haven't watched the movies at all if you seriously think like that. Yes, Anakin wanted to be a jedi, but it wasn't something he expected. He wanted to do things in his own way, and because the jedi doctrine did not allow it, he felt like he had become a slave and not having the control of his life.
Tbh, I have never had a problem with him, to be honest he's probably one if not the most realistic Sw character: Episode 1: A child wanting to see the world. Episode 2: A teenager who feels like he's hold back. Clone Wars: Maturing. Finally growing up. Episode 3: Someone who have faced the war and saw many traumatizing things.
My only issue with him was that we never got something to get a clear sense of him being a well-respected and popular war hero in the movies. We got that in the Clone Wars but it would've been nice to have that in the movies as well so they can work on their own as well as they do with TCW.
@@loliH9 I think that's actually why he does probably end up below Ashoka. Anakin's character feels really different in TCW compared to the films, whereas Ashoka has constant characterisation.
I agree, people don't look at him in the context of how he was grown up. Rather they look at how they'd prefer him to be like. I really like Anakin in the prequels.
He’s a great actor and I would love to see him act again but I understand he has his own life and acting is in his past now. Also tbh I loved him in Jumper (lol it’s not as bad as you remember, I swear)
@@nathank2289 that was 'Vader', his dark alter ego. Lucas wanted to convey just how deep and evil the Dark Side fall is. He wanted to shock us, to make it clear this was exactly what the Jedi had been fighting so hard to prevent for over 1000 generations.
@@mr.safensound4238 granted the prequels are not know for good writing but jumping straight to child murder goes from shockingly evil to just stupidly cartoon evil
I honestly don't get the hate Jake Lloyd and Hayden Christiansen got I thought they were both great at their performance. Anakin is without a question one of the greatest Star Wars characters in history.
@@funnyvalentine6670 you do realise anakin became vader before he got the suit right? I really dont understand what your point is here. Hayden did play vader just without the suit, at first.
I really don't get how the fandom attacked Jake Lloyd at all. He was a kid. And his performance was as a kid. And it seemed so wholesome and believable to me. Like I was thinking yeh... that's how a kid would operate.
Hands down, one of my most favorite characters, in any series, of all time. He is completely complex. A tragic hero, who tries so hard to do the right thing at all times, but ultimately is human and succumbs to his humanity. I elated at his excitement during the battle of Naboo, felt his struggles as a Padawan, cried as he betrayed everyone as he fell to the dark side, and beyond all the PRIDE felt as he brings balance to the galaxy by defeating evil and saving his son. S++
I don't blame Anakin for sounding a bit awkward in E2. God only knows how I would react on a date. Probably would end up sounding like Jar Jar Binks or Ripper Roo.
Crisis Among Infinite Darths AC yes good point and wow how can they not fall in love. Maybe it was her first time too! Those two beautiful people in their prime wow
@@elainenagano9829 True. Padme probably didn't have a whole lot of time for dating when she basically spent her whole life in politics from the age of 14.
Thank you sir. For reminding us why Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader is the best Satanic supervillain of all time. He's like the example of The Devil's Tragedy in Paradise Lost. No offense to you my readers.
Anakin’s turn made perfect sense. In revenge of the Sith he saw that the Jedi and the Sith are essentially the same (watch cinema wins video on the film). Now he has a choice between the 2 sides that he sees are the same. Of course is going to go with the side that he can honest about his relationship with and at least have a shot of saving her. When Anakin went to Yoda about this Yoda basically said just get over it and move on. After he helped kill Windu there was no going back
I can't disagree more. My problem with Revenge of the Sith was that the movie needed to do ONE thing: explain how you go from a character that wants to be a Jedi master, a guy who's a hero, to a guy who will march into the Jedi temple with an army at his back and slaughter children who he cared about. Instead of taking the whole of the first two acts of the movie to do this, it happens in 10 minutes at the end of the second act (and part of that 10 minutes is a montage of Order 66 being carried out). He goes from a good guy, even a selfless hero, a guy who cares about doing the right thing, who resents the people afraid of him a bit, to a guy utterly consumed with evil in, very nearly, the blink of an eye. At least Hyde had a drug to explain Jeckle's instant transformation (and even Hyde worked his way up to murdering people).
@@liljenborg2517 First of all, you're ignoring the fact that Anakin's downfall to the dark side began in Episode I and got worse as the story progressed. Second of all, you're forgetting that falling to the dark side is not comparable to real-life scenarios. Because the dark side literally corrupts you as soon as you open to it. Just like when Luke almost killed his own father just because he threatened his sister. Third of all, you make it sound as if Anakin was okay with all this when he was actually dying inside with each kill he made.
Good point and almost right. Anakin always dreamed of becoming the most POWERFUL Jedi. Originally he wanted that power to free all the slaves and visit all the stars. Later in ATOC he loses his mother, and it confirms to him that he's 'still not powerful enough'. The trouble was the 'Jedi Order' kept holding him back. They prevented his promotion to 'Master', and prevented his access to the restricted area in the Jedi Library. They wanted him to step back and 'let all the things he cared about go', whilst they hypocritically tried to hold on to their OWN power and influence on the Republic. They having fought the Clone Wars to do so. The Jedi failed Anakin just as they had failed themselves. So it was Anakin's quest for POWER, and his wish to control death that turned him. He then planned to overthrow the Emperor and rule the Galaxy himself, bringing his own version of 'peace and order' to HIS EMPIRE. When he confronts Obiwan on Mustafar, it's no longer about saving Padme. He even strangled her to emphasise this point! Padme was just the 'hook' that Palpatine used to fully lure him in. Once he fully embraced the Dark Side, anyone NOT with him was now 'his enemy'. Including Obiwan and Padme.
liljenborg Anakin’s turn didn’t happen in 10 minutes. He promised to save his mom and couldn’t keep his promise which is when he took his first steps down the dark side by killing the Tussken Raiders. Anakin was also being taught to forget about everything including his mother by the Jedi because attachments can lead to the dark side. Then when he wants to be a good man and a good Jedi he sees hints that the Sith and Jedi are the same since Palpatine told Anakin to kill Doku because he was too dangerous he to be kept alive which Anakin didn’t think was the Jedi way, then Windu said that Palpatine was too dangerous to be kept alive as an excuse to kill him. Anakin sees that the Jedi and Sith are one in the same and goes farther down the dark path and “once you do forever will it control your destiny, consume you it will” plus Anakin did want peace in his own messed up way
Anakin is the Chosen One. He is the Jedi of Jedi’s. The one of a pure soul that was corrupted by some of the people in his life. He is a hardworking Jedi who failed, and got redeemed in the end. He fulfilled his purpose and died a hero. Anakin is my most favorite character in all of Star Wars and if He was real I would consider him family.
You know I have been trying to get over all the disappointment in epi 9 when they slighted Anakin and the other great hero’s to mere voices! But it’s very hard . SW has been in my life since the beginning! I loved all 123456! Loved Anakin as a child and then to sexy, sensitive lost soul! Wow for Padme. A little boy she loved grows into a hunk! The story is in our hearts forever and I get defensive when people who didn’t grow up say other wise! Boy it makes me angry. It’s a movie phenomenon, a big slice of our culture! Love you guys and thanks for wonderful memories!
@Lionard Kirsch He made it extremely clear in the clone wars series ,which was great at foreshadowing events but it straight out pointed out he WAS THE CHOSEN ONE and was something more than just a jedi .
I see Anakin's illogical total turn to the Dark side as an analog to people who were very sheltered in a very strict church, but, as soon as they (think that they) commit one big sin, they turn their back to church and throw themselves in a life of debauchery, never thinking that they could be pardoned. in Star Wars that's even worse because there's no arguing about the existence of the Force & the validity of the Jedi, & the Jedi - even if they don't say it - are terrifyingly afraid of the Dark Side, to the point that Yoda & Ben Kenobi thought that there was no way for Anakin to be brought back to the Light, so they manipulated Luke to kill his own father. Ani joined for Padmé & stayed for nothing, but because he had learned his whole life that redemption wasn't a choice. he was in for a penny in for a pound.
Your first paragraph describes a character mold very similar to that of Ambrosio, villain protagonist to the novel "the Monk." Despite being raised a friar and regarded as a promising paragon, he falls as soon as he faces temptation by a succubus because he has never been exposed to worldly desires, thus having a low resistance. Ambrosio also strikes a bargain with the devil in desperation, which Anakin kind of also does, but with someone more terrible than the devil: Sheev Palpatine.
Also he had Palpatine slowly dropping hints for years that the Sith and the Dark Side weren't so bad, they were just misunderstood by people who were afraid of them.
"Anakin's willingness to do anything to save his wife is too quick" IKR? It's not like he went through some tramatic experience, such as finding the mother he hadn't seen in years tortured and watching as the life drained from her eyes, to motivate him to protect the second of the most important women in his life(sorry Snips, you take 3rd in this list). Let's not forget that the life his child was at stake as well. Plus, once he had his foot too far in the door he found out that the most important person in his life was dead because of him. What's he supposed to do, say "oh sorry guys I guess I don goofed"? With his wife gone and the things he did to try and save her over there was nothing left for him other than serve the Empire.
Star Wars is basically the rise, fall, and redemption of Anakin Skywalker. As much as I love Luke Skywalker, Anakin is just a more fleshed out character given his entire life story. Also I agree that after he chopped off Mace Windu's arm, that was it, there was no way the jedi order would forgive him. At that point, Anakin was probably so emotionally unbalanced that he fully allowed the dark side of the force to overwhelm him, at least, thats my theory on his sudden shift to the dark side in episode Three
joltwarrior to deal with Anakins fall they needed to evolve and not be so narrow minded. Anakin needed to be embraced and helped sling by all of them not put on the outskirts . To not allow him master ship was a slap in the face . They needed more forsite to help him.
joltwarrior I think it was killing younglings. After that he knew he couldn’t come back. I’ve had a big personal change in life. Angry tears came before the change.
The darkside blinded him to the fact he still was redeemable, he could stop windu from executing palpatine, while shielding windu from palpatine, windu and anakin were both right and both wrong The darkside works by blinding those it affects and strips reason and hope until all that is left is desires and passions and seeking a power that they dont even have any use or reason for by the time they achieve it, or they wouldn't stay blinded by the darkside and would find balance between light and dark again
Yes but he never did he says he was his brother but in reality all he did was talk trash about him o his abilities have mad him arrogant obi wan lied to anikan alot he wanted to prove that he could be better than anikan as well but ultimately knew he wasnt thats exactly he left him for dead instead of forfeiting the fight like luke did
@@luisacevedo8772 Hm, honestly obiwan is the one who technically killed anakin, say anakin did die on mustafar obiwan killed him then. Yoda said anakin was gone and obiwan just went along, obiwan didn’t even try to help or bring anakin back all he said was “well than u are lost” obiwan gave up on anakin he says anakin was his brother and he loved him but if you loved him, you wouldn’t have lied, not Stand up for him and yea, you left him to burn that’s your fault, he wasn’t fully gone yet but you lost hope. Honestly idk- I think obiwan is overrated in my opinion doesn’t mean I Don’t like him just- idk
@@pumpkinbagelpatch yes he did kill him but that's because he trained him n also knew is weaknesses n was basically fighting like Mayweather running until the best chance to strike anakin was blind with rage he wasn't balanced calm or relaxed like duku if he was he would have won
@@luisacevedo8772 I hate when people say obiwan is more powerful than anakin because he won the fight, excuse me but I don’t remember anakin losing because obiwan was more powerful, stronger or a better duelist. Obiwan won because he was being smarter, and he was calm, he also knew anakin like a brother so he knew what his weaknesses were.
I literally just finished watching the Clone Wars and was thinking about how well rounded the series made the characters of Anakin and Ahsoka (plus all the others really). Thanks to that series we have some of the best written character of all time
@Lionard Kirsch yeah, she isn't the main character, but hopefully season 5, or the sequel to rebels will have her and Sabine as the main characters. Either way, I highly recommend the show. I actually like Ezra and Sabine. To each their own, I guess, but its good canon star wars content. Definitely far better than the sequels.
In Attack of the Clones, Anakin was nineteen years old. No one behaved awkwardly and like an idiot when they were teenagers? That speak of the arrogance of some people, they think that they had the perfect teenage years, that were gods for woman, if anyone think like this, they never had real teenage years in their lives.
Phantom menace came out when I was 7, and Jake Lloyd(the actor who played Anakin) was 9. As such, I sort of saw myself in Anakin a little bit, and he became the character I identified more with than any other. You can really identify with his motivations, and it always makes me think “what would I be doing in these circumstances? Would I do the same thing?” On another note, for people who always think it’s not realistic for anakin turning all of a sudden, there’s a really cool movie on Netflix called push, where they take 4 everyday people, and take them down a little bit of a chain of events leading them to the point where they have to decide whether or not to murder someone to save themselves, and 3 of the 4 do it. At the point where he cuts off windu’s hand to save palps, he is now in too deep, and at that point becoming Vader has become the easy path
Not only that palpatine was his friend and never was not on his side trusted him with everything because he knew he could be great windu never did neither did the order because they couldn't control him most of us would do the same things these people would not let him go see his mother when he was having nightmares actual vision of her in pain because there code was attachment is forbidden so he lost his mom and basically no one cared because he should have let her go along time ago he could have saved her like obi wan saved padme they had the power but never showed him because the fear of wat he could become
Anakin is the best Star Wars character that everyone can relate to. It’s hard for me to fault every decision he made since I would have probably did it too.
The clone wars saved the character in my opinion, looking back on the prequels given how bad the sequal trilogy was I can watch and enjoy them alot more than I ever did for all their faults at least the prequels had been planned out not just letting the directors do whatever they wanted with no thought of how they would tie them together
You can tell that the guy who said that if you gave Anakin more than a B, you weren’t being objective, holds a very simple view, and doesn’t really understand the complexity of Anakin’s character
If you really look at Anakin and his performance in the prequels from a psychological point of view, he actually makes a lot of sense! People complain about Hayden showing no emotion but that’s exactly what such a kid would become under the given circumstances! He’s raised as a slave yes, but that implies more than lack of freedom. That implies that he was raised seeing terrible things and likely being abused. This would damage anybody’s connection with those around them. This would also breed distrust. So he dreams of saving himself and his mother (as many trapped or abused children do) and he’s finally given the opportunity to do so but can’t help his own mother. That’s a lot of guilt to add onto an already damaged psyche. Then he gets taken into a very strict and harsh group that tells him to stop reacting to his emotions. In his broken mind, that means stop feeling at all. Every time he sought help, he encountered his mentors telling him to just let it go or to be afraid of what he was feeling. They used the dark side as this big bad boogie monster that’s going to get him if he does anything based on feelings. They were well intentioned, but this type of teaching causes many mental health problems in children raised with it and they become emotionless zombies who, when they finally show emotion, express it awkwardly, inappropriately, and fiercely (in regard to anger). They take things to extremes and then go back to seeming like brick walls. All this time, he was being conditioned by palpatine to have complete loyalty to him through subtle tactics. Palpatine became the only person he ever trusted aside from his mother so he would follow him, even when promises were broken. He would defend him nomatter what because that’s what a broken slave boy does for his new master. Luke only pulls him out of it by helping him see the error in both palpatine and the Jedi. It’s actually really interesting when you consider the deeper implications of his life. I’m my opinion, his performance was wonderful for what he was portraying.
Anakin was one of my favorite prequel charaters, alongside Yoda, Windu, Grievous, Sidious, Dooku, Maul, Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, Panaka... Maybe it's time for you guys to admit the prequels are great.
I loved all the SW movies! Episode 9 though left me unsatisfied though. It messed with Anakins redemption. I needed him as a force Ghost to help set things straight once and for all! Anakin, Luke, Leia are SW! The family all as force Ghost to set it right!!! I will always love Anakin as a darling boy and alluring young man! No wonder Padme feel in love wow older beauty and young inexperienced handsome sexy guy! You fill in the rest!!!
@Lionard Kirsch I feel almost the same. In my opinion the sequels were great, but TROS was a little bit underwhelming. Yes, the coherency could have been better, but at least Lucasfilm revived their greatest creation.
@@elainenagano9829 I thought Anakin's story was told in 1-6 tho. There was no need to have him battle Palpatine. I would've liked it if he came on screen to guide Rey/Ben.
Anakin is my all time favorite character in all of Star Wars. I never understood the backlash behind him. He is so relatable and has so many layers embedded into his story. There is so much substance where Anakin is concerned.
To me, Anakin is one of the greatest characters in fiction. He is (and still is, not you Rey) the Chosen One. He fell to the dark side because of his love for his family and yet returned to the light because of that very same love. Thanks to Luke, he redeemed himself and brought balance back to the Force.
he is the most complex character in this franchise, the closest we get to to a character study in the franchise, namely of a good (borderline personality) person systematically being corrupted into an anti-hero and villain who betrays everything he swore to protect. I love how all his dark deeds and motivations in III are already foreshadowed and set up in the previous films, like the inability to let go of attachments and fear of loss, wiping out villages and flirtttig with dictatorship. The Clone Wars Anakin is fine but a bit too one dimensional for my taste, but that is ok for this kind of adventure show directed at the inner child.
I always liked Anakin, and I didn't watch Clone Wars until a few years ago. Honestly, I still feel a disconnect between the two versions of the character.
Anakin is the perfect character. He can't be a totally nice guy, because he must become Vader later. But he's good and everything he does is for love. Star Wars is about the tragic story of Anakin Skywalker (The Tragedy of Anakin Skywalker The Chosen One). (Note: The performances were perfect) And the story surrounding him is AMAZING. Anakin was a slave destined to be The Chosen one, and who falls in love with a woman, whose love is imposible (Because of the Jedi Order and Padme's political career). Despite his destiny, despite everything he did, despite being so powerful, he couldn't save his mother and later his wife (the persons he truly loved). And once he joins the Dark Side (for love) he's blinded, as the Jedi told him, and falls in an unscapable trap. Years passed and his son, the only thing that still connected him with her love Padme, the last hope he had, helped him and cared about him as no one had done in many years. He then saw the light one last time and gave his life to save not just the galaxy, but what was the most important thing for him, the last remanent of his love with Padme. Anakin gave everything he had to save Padme, and at last he gave his own life to save the last thing left of her, Luke, their son. And Anakin Skywalker, The Chosen One, fulfilled his destiny and left this world in peace after seeing Padme one last time, after looking at Luke's eyes.
as someone who works with people who have mental health issues... some of the characteristics of Anakin Skywalker are very real... PTSD can effect people in many different ways and its not unheard of people turning against loved ones when external factors play a part especially when they have been abused themselves. Anakin was a slave he was prob subject to abuse.. this can manifest for years... with out the right support it can turn into mistrust, hatred, self loafing and literary destroy a person. The Jedi dismissed anakin's attachments just telling him not to feel them... Love could set him free... (Padme/ Obiwan/ Ashoka) but they were all lost... (Died/mistrust/abandoned by his "family") The only other way was through hate because that what his known.. It also got him some of the other things he desired (Travel/being hailed a hero (examples throughout the CW)/getting the info he wanted/control) There is a reason he sounds so monotone sometimes...
I find it baffling that no one understood his fall. In the beginning Palpatine says a certain line and later Windu says the same line of Palpatine, "He's to dangerous to be left alive." In that instant Anakin realised that the Jedi and Sith were opposite sides to a coin and desperately moved to save the one who had moments ago told him had a way to save Padme. He made a split second decision that he couldn't come back from, he helped assassinate one of the two leaders of the Jedi order. He even realizes what he did with horror before again realizing that he had no choice but to side with Palpatine. Palpatine then tells him to show no mercy, and literally kill everything in the temple. Only then would he be strong enough to possibly save Padme. He did so, and then he was given his next mission, he stopped to talk to his wife, then went to kill of the CIS leaders. It was only after he had done so that he was left without a mission to occupy him and he began to look at his actions but he knew he was long past the point of turning back. And he had also gained a taste of power that he liked, he was even ready to overthrow the emperor because of his hunger for more power. Its a drug he couldn't get enough of.
Well, I think Anakin is a fascinating character study. He wants control because he's never really had it. He was born into slavery, then as a Jedi Padawan, he was introduced to a different life that instilled strict rules and guidelines on his behavior, his positive influences often die outside of his control, and he was emotionally manipulated into committing evil acts. Anakin really is just a scared little boy trying to form and hold on to what fleeting attachments he can. Yeah he was a 19 year old who was awkward with Padme, but also keep in mind that he's literally had zero positive romantic role models in his life. His mom was single, any couples he met as a slave were likely very nasty (because it was a haven for pirates, criminals and other scum of the universe), and the jedi expressly forbade romance. Padme was his number one choice because she saw him as a person, and Padme fell for him because she's talented at seeing people for who they are.
Older Star Wars fans had Luke Skywalker, my generation had Anakin Skywalker, and new generations will have Rey. Anakin is a highly complex, and even with all the recognition he's getting, I still feel he's a highly underrated character.
I was a little too harsh in my criticism of Anakin. I gave him a C in the comments, but I'd change it to a solid B. He has almost everything going for him character wise, it's just that George didn't land the sinker with the Romance subplot in AOTC. That would've solidified Anakin as a A+ hero in my book.
Don't forget that the AOTC romance dialogue was written to be awkward. How would you talk to someone who's been your fantasy for a decade of slavery to an order of monks that forces you to supress your emotions? Padmé also kinda suffered from the same problem being a senator and all. You can not like the plot in it's execution and that's fair, but the way it was made makes complete sense in universe and for the characters themselves.
Quico Gil I actually love the plot of AOTC, and how the climax built to Geonosis. I even think most of the lines spoken between Padme and Anakin are fine. However, what I would've done as a filmmaker is reverse the roles of their romance. Instead of Anakin simply pursuing Padme the whole time without any adaptation on his part leaves a lot to be desired narratively. The best way to visualize this would be looking at the Obi Wan and Jango chase scene in the asteroid field in space: This scene is not simply showing Obi Wan chasing Jango the whole time, but rather showing a dynamic between the two in said chase. Obi wan trails behind Jango at first, then all of the sudden Jango turns the table on Obi Wan by then trailing him. Why not just have Obi Wan chase Jango the entire time? It could've worked just fine that way, but George chose the most compelling conflict to make for the better scene. I think this dynamic should've been implemented in Anakin's and Padme's relationship. Maybe Anakin shoots his shot and get humiliated, thereby in *fear* of rejection he avoids hitting on Padme like the plague. Maybe Padme sees this and tries to slowly affirm her love for him. Maybe because of Anakin's loyalty to the Jedi and uncertainty of falling to the dark side, it never works out. Until, the death of Anakin's mother brings them closer together tragically, THEN they both accept what's in front of them. I just feel like this would've landed harder, but at the end of the day I'm more than happy with the SW movies I got. The inspiration I got from specifically the Prequels and Lucas' vision that lead me to want to make films of my own is more than enough substance for me. It's just the quizzical side of my imagination showing again.
At the end of the day, this is such a little detail in contrast to everything else Anakin brings to the table. The last thing I am arguing for is his ineffectiveness as a character. He's a top 3 favorite SW hero of mine, and I'm glad that people see what I'm tryna say here.
The dichotomy of Anakin Skywalker is my favorite part of his character. He’s everything a Jedi should be yet at the same time he’s everything a Jedi shouldn’t be. A light in the dark to those around him yet his light was diminished by that same darkness. He is a great character and a great fallen hero in my book. But when I look at his entire life and the internal conflict he always had I do sometimes ask myself. Did he ever stand? Anakin Skywalker - The Fallen Hero
Anikan is an a+ character if u look at every part of his character from kid to adult yes he was ENSLAVED his whole life but most of us r that's how he relates to us the kid grows up to be the best something we all want to be but ends up becoming the villain of his own story which most of us do but he shows us that u can take a turn and fix ur heading on the map if u just reevaluate your perception of the street and what u want out of it the best character as a whole of any movie
I love Anakin Skywalker as a character, I love how Hayden & Lucas portrayed the character as a Shakespearian speaking weirdo like all of the Jedi who raised him for half of his life. He was perfectly portrayed as an optimistic kid in TPM, an emotional, unbalanced young adult in AOTC & ROTS, & Anakin is my favorite character in fiction. He is so heavily flawed, he's based in his emotions, he reminds me of myself, I have weird speech patterns & I get emotional when things go wrong, I get angry when I see companies like Nintendo & Lucasfilm disrespecting their fans so much. I feel alone a lot of the time, I've done bad things, but I know I have a heart deep down. Anakin is my hero, after him I love Luke, R2, Rex, Maul & a whole bunch of the other guys, but Anakin takes the cake. He's my hero, & I can always count on him, remind myself of him when I need strength.
People don't realize that Anakin just turned to the dark side of the force he was seduced by the dark side. From the lose of his mother to the likelihood that he could save Padme from death was all about him being seduced by Palpatine
Anakin is the perfect embodiment of the struggle between selflessness and desire/selfishness. He tries to be good and cares deeply for those close to him, but his selflessness turns to selfishness when their well being becomes the highest priority and at all costs. When his actions result in the death of the one he cared for most, his justification that it was all for her crumbles, leaving him with nothing but self loathing and resentment. In an effort to silence these feelings of guilt, he cut himself off from his emotions and humanity, becoming the monster that is Darth Vader. Only through Luke, who showed him the greater strength of love and forgiveness, do his selfless roots break through the layer of self hatred he'd made for himself, resulting in his final selfless act and his attempt at redemption for his past mistakes.
Ive never cared for Matt Lanter's delivery. He makes Anakin sound like a jock show-off rather than a troubled thrillseeker. As for why Padme fell for Anakin, I would posit that she could see how sincere he was, that he was trying, and she genuinely believed in the good that was in him, the same good that was there when she first met him. Padme was always wise beyond her years, and I don't think it's a stretch to think that she could see past the cringe.
Anakin is the only person Padmé feels like she can just be herself, show him her TRUE self , not her public persona Amidala. She can loose herself and be relaxed. She can tell him what she really thinks about things, showing frustration or even anger and nothing happens. She can be silly and funny without any kind of worry too. People often don't see the stark constrast that Anakin and Padmé are two very emotional and passionate individuals in a society in which stoicism and restraint is expected of them, so when they are together they don't need to mask their emotions: there's no judgements, expectances or can be used as a vulnerabilty against them. And finding that kind of acceptance is relief. They are 'children at heart'(that's what the silly romantic scenes are showing you!) who bear a great responsability and have big expectances placed on them(they take on the expectances too), so they understand what it means better than anyone else that surrounds them.
Anakin is my favorite character tbh. He embodies fully our human nature. How we want to be selfless, kind and protect those we love, but at the same time arrogant, naive and hateful. Also in The Phantom Menace he believes he is finally free but is he really? He always has a master and rules to follow. I believe that in many ways we are all a little bit like him and his tragic arc shows us what would become of us if we do not focus on the good things that happen to us (Anakin's friendship with Obi Wan for example, Padme's pregnancy). Also his story makes you question if YOU are ever trully free. Freedom is actually subjective and acurately shown in the prequels. Also his fall to the dark side and then his redemption gives a sense of catharsis, that no matter what you are never too far gone- you can always come back. To me at least he is a deep and complex character and I can actually say that when I watch the prequels I see a little bit of myself as well (without the men, women, and children slaughtering- oviously xD). So, I really want to take a moment to appreciate George Lucas for the MASTERPIECE that is the *real* Star Wars (the Disney Star Wars is just a disappointment that ends with EVIL- Creamy Sheev Rey Palps- rulling the galaxy and looking at Luke's sunset whilst having stolen, ruined and burried the Skywalker legacy in *SAND* ).
I love Anakin Skywalker. Without a doubt my favorite Star Wars character. I'm happy with the people who portrayed him in the films and tv shows, but Hayden Christensen and Matt Lanter made my childhood.
Anakin will always be my favourite character in Star Wars and one of my favourites overall in any work of fiction. His story, choices, fall, and redemption are so fascinating to me and I can't help but love the tragedy of his entire life. That commenter that said he spent his entire life as a slave is spot on and it's honestly just so sad. All he ever wanted was to be free and to save the people he loved and he finally got exactly that at the very end of his life. It's why Return of the Jedi is my favourite Star Wars film and has been since even before I saw the prequels. I love the idea that anyone can be saved and that the very thing that caused his fall (his love for his family) is also what brought about his redemption.
I hate when people say Anakin's turn either made no sense or was rushed and I'm just thinking they had to of only watched Episode 3 to think this. Because even without the Clone Wars cartoon you can clearly understand his fall into the dark side. Episode 1: He was a child slave who was separated from his mother and indoctrinated into a cult like religion propping him up as a very important figure as the chosen one. Episode 2: We see him being belittered, talked down to, told to forget emotions, continuing to prop him up as an important figure as the chosen one but continuing to keep him in the dark, he then finds out his mother is kidnapped/tortured/killed. Episode 3: Constantly lied too/given missions that are against the Jedi code (the thing that has been forced on him for over 12 years), the Council doesn't trust him (Blatantly said out loud by Mace Windu), fear of losing his wife and unborn child, advice to that is meh learn to let go, and when in a situation where Windu was going to kill Palps (something again Anakin is witnessing a high ranking Jedi do something against the Jedi Code) so in a desperation move disarms Windu which leads to Windu's death... His anger and dislike of the Jedi and his dark path was set out since the begining. Now think to yourself, he just helped in the murder of a high ranking Jedi and there is at least still a chance to learn a power to save your wife and child, what he's just gonna surrender to the Jedi and say sorry? Gonna throw away everything, once he made that decision it was too late for him. Regardless of your thoughts on the Prequels, if you didn't pick this up from the films, sorry but that's a you problem, and I honestly question your intelligence, especially if you then go to say the opening "complaint" in my comment.
Shout out to the person who said "We're all Star Wars fans and we're all gonna like different things and that's ok." BLESS. YOU. We need more fans like this, please.
Captain Rex! He is my favorite character in Star Wars, plus he went through hell in the clone wars. Umbrara, The Citadel, and his relationship with Domino Squad is a highlight of the show.
One of the things I really sympathise with Anakin as a character is that Mace Windu was like that manager at your job who’s always getting on your back and putting you down. Palpatine is an older coworker that you’ve built a connection with, is always complimenting your work, and you share a lot of good conversation with. Now imagine you’re in the situation Anakin is in, yeah. You’re gonna cut your asshole manager’s hands off, because fuck him for all he’s done to you. Your friendly coworker (despite the fact he really turns out to be evil) has promised you the help you need. And at this time you don’t know any better. It’s one of my favourite scenes in the film because I’ve had managers like that in the past.
“I feel the main reason people late his character is because they relate to him more than they want to admit and are comfortable with so they accuse the writing of being bad as a cheap defence mechanism” - Stokes. There is a lot of truth to that. I feel so about Korra in LOK. Complex character that had massive emotional and mental struggles you simply cannot punch or force through to win while at the same time shouldering crippling expectations of them . The Star Wars prequels and LOK are not without their glaring faults. But I’m ever grateful they gave me mirrors of me even if I don’t live in their universe as a Force sensitive person or an Avatar or element bender. Ironically, that’s good writing / or a good story.
Gotta say really think Anakin is definitely a greater overall character than Ahsoka. Based both on their separate journeys and the fact that yes both he and Vader are in fact the same person. Each personality is still him but on each end of the spectrum.
Anakin/Vader is the greatest, most important and iconic Star Wars character ever! It's HIS story arc: from his fall all the way to his redemption (note: Luke was only the catalyst who turns him back).
Over the last few years I have been rewatching the prequels with the mindset that these movies are about Anakin. So I have been paying closer attention to what Anakin does in the movies and it has made me like him a lot more. Watching the Clone Wars, especially the Mordis storyline, has made me like him even more. Trickled throughout all of the stories you see this slide to the dark side that leads to his eventual plummet off the side of the cliff that is his fall. Then you watch his journey as Darth Vader and see his final journey to becoming Anakin again and it is beautiful poetry. You take a character who was so focused on his relationships. They were all he had to live for. He loses his mom. He loses Ahsoka. He loses Padme. He loses Obi-Wan. He loses his child. His story is filled with loss. He functions as Vader because Palpatine is the only person he has to live for. Then he finds out Luke is still alive and he has a reason to live again.
I don't know about anyone else, but The Clone Wars did not save Anakin's character for me. The Clone Wars only enhanced his character and flaws. In the Phantom Menace, I feel that Anakin started his fall towards the darkness when he left his mother behind. The Clone Wars movie highlighted his inner conflicts such as pride, control, and his difficulty in dealing with his emotions for Padme. This took him further down the dark path when his mother died and he took out his pain on the Tuskan Raiders. Revenge of the Sith only brought those flaws to the forefront with the ever increasing fear of losing his wife which made him more vulnerable to Palpatine's lies. For me, the movies gave me the overall structure as to why he fell to the dark side. The Clone Wars TV show provided the context needed within that structure. In other words, I have always seen Anakin as a great character. Much better than any character that Disney has come up with.
I always loved the character and liked the actor. Never seen the problem with Hayden. The child actor for a child actor did well enough. And Hayden's acting was fine in EPII and especially III. There's some dialogue here and there that's cringey or cheesy as can be. But that's far less the actor's fault. As for Anakin as a whole. He's the heart and soul of the entire Saga. It's his story first and foremost. Ironic that that's one of the reasons Disney has failed so miserably. They really want to flee the legacy of Vader and the Skywalker line. With most painful selfdestructive results.
I honestly dont get that dude who made the comment about prequel bias. Between his first appearance and the very moment he puts the mask on he's been given reasons to hate the Jedi. His turn to the dark side makes perfect sense, especially when you consider that he is prone to darker feelings. Some of us are more susceptible than others, but susceptible nonetheless. Anakin is a man of furious passion, and it makes sense that bottling up his frustrations for a decade would cause him to burst when the only father figure in his life is being killed by one of the greatest antagonists - one who would not grant him the rank of master, despite fully deserving it.
The only people that say “Ben Solo is the most complex, interesting character in all of Star Wars” are the Disney Millennials who started taking interest in Star Wars after TFA in 2015.
I always thought the hate against Hayden’s portrayal of Anakin was unjustified (though AoTC was pretty cringy at times). I liked Anakin, but always felt there was something missing. The Clone Wars made me fall in love with Anakin. It shows just how tragic his fall to the darkside really was. Anakin’s downfall was his intense love for others and his desire to be recognized as the powerful Jedi he was. TCW did such an amazing job showing Anakin’s struggles with the darkside, his increasing violent nature that develops as the war progresses, his justifiable distrust of the Council, and his loving nature that ends up being his downfall. Anakin is a masterpiece of a character.
Ok. I'm not trying to write a sociology paper here, and I can and do enjoy all of Star Wars for the sheer entertainment value. That being said, eventually one finds things that, while not necessarily allegorical, are quite applicable. As an adult, I've always thought of the dark side as a drug. A very addictive drug. Unfortunately, it took Anakin nearly 20 years to put down the needle, and he lost himself and all that he held dear in the process. In the words of Neil Young, 'Every junkie's like a setting sun'. Just my thoughts.
I really hate the notion of 'the clone wars show saved this character'. No it didnt. Anakin was perfect in ROTS and played well prior, i have never enjoyed that show
@@ankhmahor7211 multiple arcs but never season by season as it wasnt in order so i watched what interested me and a few others, even as a kid i felt like this
@@PinkieJuice ikr, i dont mind the show but i hate it being shoved at me every where star wars content is and a lot of stuff in the show contradicts the films
I enjoyed clones wars show. But the no.1 thing I didn't like was what they did to anakin character in the show. Anakin is my favorite character in star wars cuz of the prequel films and how deep and good George lucas character writing is for anakin. 2008 clone wars didn't feel like the live action anakin from the films i loved and I didn't like that. Hayden Christensen and George lucas will always be the best
i definitely have major bias since i loved anakin as a kid when i first watched the prequels (at that time i had also been watching the clone wars) but i actually really like prequel anakin. i can understand the pain he has. the jedi council never considered the toll they put on a child, telling him he was the person who would save everyone. he was completely alone in his pain and obi wan couldn't relate to him or comfort anakin because he was still reeling from the loss of his surrogate father (qui gon jinn). the awkward flirting is super funny to me but i know guys who flirt exactly like him, not to mention he's been raised by asexual monks. perfect character overall, i think hayden was a perfect anakin.
With season 7 done now I'd say Anakin's sudden fall has been explored to the fullest with 2 scenes (his reunion with Ahsoka in Rebels and the last scene of season 7 of him finding her saber in a mass graveyard) being the most subtle but at the same time hit the hardest and added the most. In the Rebels scene when he calls out to Ahsoka and her saying "i wont leave you, not this time" the amount of emotion conveyed by his one eye was unreal, starting with surprise and consideration by widening, immediate shame and looking away, closing them in knowing he has committed too many atrocities to find salvation and lastly returning to ice cold embracing his sins with that long pause in his reply just twisting that knife in your heart. Couple that with the scene at the graveyard and him finding her sabers and assuming she's dead and with her his last tether to his humanity and the last nail in the coffin of "Anakin", he turns and in the reflection of the helmet, painted in Ahsokas colors by the clones in her honor, walks away now fully Vader.
I always pictured his snap fall in the movie as the dark side being like the drug for power, all you need is one step to fall in. Couldn't tell you if the selflessness/discipline light side and easy path to power dark side is from me remembering movie things or extended universe things though.
Anakin said what have I done when he killed windu. Him wanting padme for himself and the fear of losing struck him and didn’t think. From that line anakin knew he did something wrong. He couldn’t go back. He basically had no choice.
Yeah I love Anakin Skywalker for sure, he’s probably one of the most important characters. I think the most defining moment has to be when Padme asks “you’re a slave?” And the little boy snaps back “I’m Anakin Skywalker.” He’s Anakin, not a slave, not a Jedi. His own person, even after years of being a sith lord he redeems himself by yeeting palpatine down a well to save his son because he’s Anakin.
This is the very first time I've ever heard somebody else point out that Anakin was an emotionally suppressed teenager flirting with his childhood crush and was MEANT to be awkward as holy hell, and I am incredibly grateful to you for that.
I missed the vote in time for your comments so I apologize for the late post… but just my two cents. I was originally thinking a 4, but considered another way of thinking of Anakin’s arc and a solid 5, along with his Padawan. Not necessarily, from beginning to end, in terms of age, but rather, how we actually come to learn of Anakin. From Obi-wan’s comments to Luke on Tatoonie to Luke learning the truth, to his redemption. The Prequels clouds or bring down scores. BUT, the important thing that people will say is that the Clone Wars saved pre-Vader Anakin. And that is true. The Clone Wars saved Anakin’s character pretty much across the board. So much story was told, we really came to understand Anakin’s many complex layers. His character arc, using the Clone Wars (an animated series), shows Disney exactly how to fix Luke’s character arc. We knew Anakin’s fate, yet a the clone wars was the tool to save the character in the eyes of many of the fans. The animated route allowed to show the extreme capabilities of the Jedi of the clone wars. The fans want to see Luke’s story, the story where apparently he reached extreme levels of force attunement. If seeing Anakin’s story told through the Clone Wars, saved his character in the eyes of many of the fans, there is no reason to believe that the same can’t done with Luke. Ultimately, it all comes down to the story. The clone wars was some of the best story telling in Star Wars.
I can't necessarily agree with the premise of the question "was Anakin (saved) by the Clone Wars?" Because since the inception of the PT trilogy Anakin is and HAS, been my favorite Star Wars character... did the Clone Wars make Anakin better??? YES!
I just love him in the prequels. After seeing people talk about Clone Wars, I watched a few episodes and he's not as good. It's literally the cartoonified version of him. Can't imagine him slaughtering Tuskens or experiencing his mother's torture/death, missing so much of his darkness.
@@ankhmahor7211 IIt's a cartoon, of course the character is more cartoonish and whitewashed than in he is in a movie where he slaughters Tuskens or is set on fire, LOL. He loses a lot of his nuance and depth on the show, also his edge. And I watched all the important Anakin episodes, like Mortis and the Jedi bombing. Sorry, I don't like how bland he is in the show. Like I stated before, Anakin in the ROTS novel is the best and most true portrayal of his movie counterpart.
Those people who make fun of it are usually the whiniest. I think the person who said that Anakin haters mostly can't admit to their own flaws they see in him is spot on!
But we want a movie to have realistic traits in movies so we can look on them and say what would I do in that situation? So having every character have a perfect personality is wrong plus Luke was just as whiny and no one cares
@@CosmicBricksStudios It's also realistic to not be whiny too. Most smart people don't go off on a whiny rant in front of a girl he likes that he just seen after 10 years. That was cringy. His realationship with Padme had no chemistry and it wasn't realistic that she would like him. The way he acted should have creeped her out. He is also stupid. He likes and puts trust in Palpatine even after he is acting evil and tells him to leave Obi Wan behind. But it's not a matter of whether it's realistic or not. Many people don't like him.
Although it may be too late for this comment, but I just want too explain, why Anakin's fall in ROTS makes more sense then most people think. As soon as Anakin leaves the temple, he already decides: "No matter what, I need to save Palpatine, I need that knowledge to save Padme". He enters Palpatine's office and sees defeated Sidius who starts playing a role of a weak old man, who cannot protect himself from Windu. We, as audience know that this is all just manipulations to turn Anakin, but Anakin doesn't. When Windu says that he is going to kill Palpatine right here and right now, Anakin has just couple of seconds to make a decision. Chopping off Windu's hand was rather conscious choice then otherwise. According to some psychology research that makes perfect sense. People often make bad decisions, because a person who has great authority says them to do so. This is why dictators like Hitler come to power and convince there people to unnecessary wars. And this is exactly what happens to Anakin. Palpatine is a greater authority to him then Windu. He was his mentor, friend, hero (as a politician) and, in some degree, his father for more then 10 years. He was the only person with whom Anakin could share anything, including his feelings about his mother, his doubts about Jedy order and it's codex and even that he slaughtered a whole village to revenge his mother's death. Plus, Palpatine was a great manipulator. I think that most of people, who say that it is so obvious that Palpatine manipulates Anakin and Anakin is so stupid, because he cannot see it, would make the same choice that Anakin did. Because it is a big difference to watch how someone manipulates people and actually be a victim of manipulations. It is something that marketing does every day, otherwise fanboys wouldn't stand in long queues for hours just to become one of the first owners of a new iPhone. "I don't know how save her, but together we will figure it out". Hope dies last. Anakin is so afraid to loose Padme that he would rather believe that he can find knowledge and learn how to save people from death in several days, then face the truth and try to kill or arrest Palpatine. And also remember, that Anakin was in a deep shock after realizing what he has just made to Windu. In such moments people are extremely vulnerable. I actually had an experience of some sort of such manipulation. I was going home when suddenly a man started to tell me that I stepped on his foot, even though I didn't. He was rude and created a feeling that if I'll try to go away, he will hit me in my back. It seemed to me that physically he was far stronger then me. At some moment he became more "friendly". My inner voice was just yelling that I need to get rid of that guy, but I was so afraid for a such long period of time, that started to think that this guy might be not so bad as I thought initially. Long story short, we were walking for 2 hours and my inner voice was becoming more and more quiet. I literally gave that guy a pretty large amount of money and he gone away. As soon as he disappeared, my mind came back to normal and I understood how easily I was controlled and what a fool I am. People are extremely illogical creatures.
Character analysis? Classic and simple:) Everything you said is true with both support and criticism. I grew up with his character and I never felt a closer representation with him than Luke, Anakin was a fallen hero, Luke is the redeemer.
I love Anakin, he's my favorite Star Wars character. I think both Clone Wars animated series helped to enhance his positive and negative traits. How can you not love a guy who proudly eats live bugs?!
Anakin's turn to the dark side in Revenge of The Sith is pretty sudden and grandiose, but I think it makes sense within the movie. Palpatine had been talking to Anakin for years, giving him advice and encouragement and subtly poisoning Anakin's belief in Jedi principles. Then all of a sudden here's Mace Windu trying to execute his kindly father figure without even a trial. So Anakin helps Palpatine and suddenly his Jedi career is over. There's no going back after Mace dies - so yeah, Anakin goes all in with his now hideously scarred foster dad and turns against the people who he sees as the real traitors. This is when the Dark Side kicks in, feeding his escalating rage until Anakin sees no difference between adult Jedi and younglings, just like he saw no difference between the Tusken Raiders. They're all traitors and they all deserve to die. Then there's Mustafar where everything falls apart. Curiously, he asks Padme to join him in overthrowing Palpatine. This is the action I have the most trouble justifying. You'd think Anakin would be grateful she's safe and just want to take her somewhere where she can give birth, but apparently the Dark Side is a hell of a drug and the voices whispering in his head have already convinced Anakin that he has to be the greatest of all in everything. Then jealousy, he hurts her, Obi-Wan cripples him, and while he's in a haze of pain kindly old Palpatine tells him that he accidentally killed his wife. That leads to a sort of ego death where his personality blanks out, and Darth Sidious uses the opportunity to rebuild him as the perfect Sith apprentice. It's only years later that any flickers of his old personality start to reemerge.
The Clone Wars is the reason why characters like Grievous, Anakin, Ahsoka, Dooku, Cad Bane and many more are remembered. Minor characters in the movies with poorly written parts made hem forgettable and the Clone Wars made sure to explore each and every one of them and make sure that they are remembered. If the Clone Wars didn’t exist Anakin would be a C character or even a D or F. And of course the novels, comics, video games etc.
@@josephhughes2429 He needed a few improvements. Luckily Genndy Tartakovsky made that a reality. Then Filoni came and basically turned Anakin into Luke 2.0.
Incorrect. Go out in the street and survey how many people know prequel Anakin vs Clone Wars. The movies are hands down more viewed and more popular. There would be no cartoon without them. Clone Wars fans are getting really bold with these insane claims.
@@ankhmahor7211 No. TCW Grievous was nothing but a punching bag and never gives the viewer ANY reason to take him seriously. At least in ROTS we saw that he was resourceful and cunning and even intimidating. Also, Grievous was not even remotely OP in the 2003 series. If he were, he wouldn't have lost to Mace Windu so easily. But in 2003 CW, he always used his cunning wit and psychological warfare to catch the Jedi off balance. He never defeated them by raw power or dueling skills.
Yes. It's an amazing journey. Then when you get to ep 3 and see that he's matured, but can't let go of the loss of his mother. That moment in ep 1 defined his life.
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@@Cyclonus-fc1xx I'd say Obi-Wan or Rex.
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Anakin never went a day in his life without calling someone master
Damn never thought of that. Hits pretty hard actually
chance jones, he was always a “slave”. That suuuuucks!!
chance jones damn... just damn......
chance jones that’s pretty dark when you think about it, his life was never his own.
@@abigailslade3824 it is but it's part of why anakin's arc is sooooo freaking amazing
"My ratings have doubled since the last time we met, Count!"
Twice the pride, double the fall.
Kev Masengale that is such a great line in so many ways, but mainly because he is speaking about Anakin but the words could be equally applied to Dukko himself.
Victor Bruant u are not on the list good sir.
2 x 0 = 0
@@abigailslade3824 Dukko?
Anakin was a slave on Tatoonie, to the Jedi, to the Sith, until Luke set him free.
Truly poetic
You don’t become a Slave of the Jedi, you twat. Anakin wanted to become a Jedi since he was a child. He WILLINGLY became/stayed a Jedi. Is Obi Wan a slave to the Jedi because he’s a member? Is Yoda a slave? Is Plo Koon? Windu? Tell me how’s, Anakin a slave to the Jedi but not every other Jedi who was (by your logic)...
@@DopeitsG4 calm down bro
For god's sake John Cena, I think you haven't watched the movies at all if you seriously think like that. Yes, Anakin wanted to be a jedi, but it wasn't something he expected. He wanted to do things in his own way, and because the jedi doctrine did not allow it, he felt like he had become a slave and not having the control of his life.
Hell you could even say Anakin was a slave to his own force destiny, and wasn't free of that until he finally defeated the sith (Himself included)
Tbh, I have never had a problem with him, to be honest he's probably one if not the most realistic Sw character:
Episode 1: A child wanting to see the world.
Episode 2: A teenager who feels like he's hold back.
Clone Wars: Maturing. Finally growing up.
Episode 3: Someone who have faced the war and saw many traumatizing things.
Factual
ItsRyanYT well said!
My only issue with him was that we never got something to get a clear sense of him being a well-respected and popular war hero in the movies.
We got that in the Clone Wars but it would've been nice to have that in the movies as well so they can work on their own as well as they do with TCW.
@@loliH9 I think that's actually why he does probably end up below Ashoka. Anakin's character feels really different in TCW compared to the films, whereas Ashoka has constant characterisation.
I agree, people don't look at him in the context of how he was grown up. Rather they look at how they'd prefer him to be like. I really like Anakin in the prequels.
Anakin is good in Clone Wars and the Prequels.
Hayden Christiansen is an underrated actor and played Anakin well.
He’s a great actor and I would love to see him act again but I understand he has his own life and acting is in his past now. Also tbh I loved him in Jumper (lol it’s not as bad as you remember, I swear)
@@EVER_PRINCE Jumper? He's been in better roles than that. Did you ever see Shattered Glass? He was great in that one.
Not anyone can pull off that choreohraphy. And cope with mr Lucas (who I love, but is known to be rough to work with)
He was definitely a underrated actor
He is ok in clone wars but terrible in the prequels sorry
Anakin is the perfect example of a sympathetic character.
Right!
Until he chopped up a classroom of kids anyway. But like midiclorians, that parts not in my head canon
@@nathank2289 Ok
@@nathank2289 that was 'Vader', his dark alter ego. Lucas wanted to convey just how deep and evil the Dark Side fall is. He wanted to shock us, to make it clear this was exactly what the Jedi had been fighting so hard to prevent for over 1000 generations.
@@mr.safensound4238 granted the prequels are not know for good writing but jumping straight to child murder goes from shockingly evil to just stupidly cartoon evil
I honestly don't get the hate Jake Lloyd and Hayden Christiansen got I thought they were both great at their performance. Anakin is without a question one of the greatest Star Wars characters in history.
I agree with you!
@Tom Ffrench Hayden never acted Vader
@Tom Ffrench Oh. That was the Blueray remake. Hayden didnt play Vader or even Force Ghost Anakin in the OG Return of the Jedi
@@funnyvalentine6670 you do realise anakin became vader before he got the suit right? I really dont understand what your point is here. Hayden did play vader just without the suit, at first.
I really don't get how the fandom attacked Jake Lloyd at all. He was a kid. And his performance was as a kid. And it seemed so wholesome and believable to me. Like I was thinking yeh... that's how a kid would operate.
Hands down, one of my most favorite characters, in any series, of all time.
He is completely complex. A tragic hero, who tries so hard to do the right thing at all times, but ultimately is human and succumbs to his humanity.
I elated at his excitement during the battle of Naboo, felt his struggles as a Padawan, cried as he betrayed everyone as he fell to the dark side, and beyond all the PRIDE felt as he brings balance to the galaxy by defeating evil and saving his son.
S++
cgonz - Agreed.
I don't blame Anakin for sounding a bit awkward in E2. God only knows how I would react on a date. Probably would end up sounding like Jar Jar Binks or Ripper Roo.
That’s how it was supposed to be. It was supposed to be awkward a temple boy who had never learned how to handle his emotions.
Crisis Among Infinite Darths AC yes good point and wow how can they not fall in love. Maybe it was her first time too! Those two beautiful people in their prime wow
Malcolm Solomon you got that right!!
@@elainenagano9829 True. Padme probably didn't have a whole lot of time for dating when she basically spent her whole life in politics from the age of 14.
The problem is that his romance doesn't make sense in that movie.
It's simply a giant plot device.
Without Anakin/Vader, there is no Star Wars.
Haha, yeah if someone had told Anakin about that magic Rey tickle that brings people back from the dead it would have been a much shorter story.
@@marksmith2412 Those films don't count though
@@AndrewMRootsthey technically do bc it’s canon and always will be
@@2kx62 not for me, they are canon for NPCs such as you
Thank you sir. For reminding us why Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader is the best Satanic supervillain of all time. He's like the example of The Devil's Tragedy in Paradise Lost. No offense to you my readers.
Anakin’s turn made perfect sense. In revenge of the Sith he saw that the Jedi and the Sith are essentially the same (watch cinema wins video on the film). Now he has a choice between the 2 sides that he sees are the same. Of course is going to go with the side that he can honest about his relationship with and at least have a shot of saving her. When Anakin went to Yoda about this Yoda basically said just get over it and move on. After he helped kill Windu there was no going back
Agreed.
I can't disagree more. My problem with Revenge of the Sith was that the movie needed to do ONE thing: explain how you go from a character that wants to be a Jedi master, a guy who's a hero, to a guy who will march into the Jedi temple with an army at his back and slaughter children who he cared about. Instead of taking the whole of the first two acts of the movie to do this, it happens in 10 minutes at the end of the second act (and part of that 10 minutes is a montage of Order 66 being carried out). He goes from a good guy, even a selfless hero, a guy who cares about doing the right thing, who resents the people afraid of him a bit, to a guy utterly consumed with evil in, very nearly, the blink of an eye. At least Hyde had a drug to explain Jeckle's instant transformation (and even Hyde worked his way up to murdering people).
@@liljenborg2517 First of all, you're ignoring the fact that Anakin's downfall to the dark side began in Episode I and got worse as the story progressed. Second of all, you're forgetting that falling to the dark side is not comparable to real-life scenarios. Because the dark side literally corrupts you as soon as you open to it. Just like when Luke almost killed his own father just because he threatened his sister.
Third of all, you make it sound as if Anakin was okay with all this when he was actually dying inside with each kill he made.
Good point and almost right. Anakin always dreamed of becoming the most POWERFUL Jedi. Originally he wanted that power to free all the slaves and visit all the stars. Later in ATOC he loses his mother, and it confirms to him that he's 'still not powerful enough'.
The trouble was the 'Jedi Order' kept holding him back. They prevented his promotion to 'Master', and prevented his access to the restricted area in the Jedi Library.
They wanted him to step back and 'let all the things he cared about go', whilst they hypocritically tried to hold on to their OWN power and influence on the Republic. They having fought the Clone Wars to do so. The Jedi failed Anakin just as they had failed themselves.
So it was Anakin's quest for POWER, and his wish to control death that turned him. He then planned to overthrow the Emperor and rule the Galaxy himself, bringing his own version of 'peace and order' to HIS EMPIRE.
When he confronts Obiwan on Mustafar, it's no longer about saving Padme. He even strangled her to emphasise this point! Padme was just the 'hook' that Palpatine used to fully lure him in. Once he fully embraced the Dark Side, anyone NOT with him was now 'his enemy'. Including Obiwan and Padme.
liljenborg Anakin’s turn didn’t happen in 10 minutes. He promised to save his mom and couldn’t keep his promise which is when he took his first steps down the dark side by killing the Tussken Raiders. Anakin was also being taught to forget about everything including his mother by the Jedi because attachments can lead to the dark side. Then when he wants to be a good man and a good Jedi he sees hints that the Sith and Jedi are the same since Palpatine told Anakin to kill Doku because he was too dangerous he to be kept alive which Anakin didn’t think was the Jedi way, then Windu said that Palpatine was too dangerous to be kept alive as an excuse to kill him. Anakin sees that the Jedi and Sith are one in the same and goes farther down the dark path and “once you do forever will it control your destiny, consume you it will” plus Anakin did want peace in his own messed up way
I think a perfect title for this series would be Battle of the Heroes alluding the John Williams theme that played over the Obi Wan and Anakin duel
Nice, I really like the sound of that.
hell yes.
A Disappointed Black Man why are you disappointed?
Elaine Nagano we will never know... it will forever be a *mystery box* 🤦🏾♂️
We have a winner!
Anakin is the Chosen One. He is the Jedi of Jedi’s. The one of a pure soul that was corrupted by some of the people in his life. He is a hardworking Jedi who failed, and got redeemed in the end. He fulfilled his purpose and died a hero. Anakin is my most favorite character in all of Star Wars and if He was real I would consider him family.
The Batboy that’s a beautiful thing to say! I love Anakin too!!
You know I have been trying to get over all the disappointment in epi 9 when they slighted Anakin and the other great hero’s to mere voices! But it’s very hard . SW has been in my life since the beginning! I loved all 123456! Loved Anakin as a child and then to sexy, sensitive lost soul! Wow for Padme. A little boy she loved grows into a hunk! The story is in our hearts forever and I get defensive when people who didn’t grow up say other wise! Boy it makes me angry. It’s a movie phenomenon, a big slice of our culture! Love you guys and thanks for wonderful memories!
@Lionard Kirsch He made it extremely clear in the clone wars series ,which was great at foreshadowing events but it straight out pointed out he WAS THE CHOSEN ONE and was something more than just a jedi .
You want a guy in your family that can go from hero to killing children in the span of ten minutes?
Agreed.The sequels don't exist.They are not canon for me.
I'd say the series should be called "Star Wars Character Study"
Ibrahim Ali agreed; that’s a great name for this series.
I see Anakin's illogical total turn to the Dark side as an analog to people who were very sheltered in a very strict church, but, as soon as they (think that they) commit one big sin, they turn their back to church and throw themselves in a life of debauchery, never thinking that they could be pardoned. in Star Wars that's even worse because there's no arguing about the existence of the Force & the validity of the Jedi, & the Jedi - even if they don't say it - are terrifyingly afraid of the Dark Side, to the point that Yoda & Ben Kenobi thought that there was no way for Anakin to be brought back to the Light, so they manipulated Luke to kill his own father.
Ani joined for Padmé & stayed for nothing, but because he had learned his whole life that redemption wasn't a choice. he was in for a penny in for a pound.
Your first paragraph describes a character mold very similar to that of Ambrosio, villain protagonist to the novel "the Monk." Despite being raised a friar and regarded as a promising paragon, he falls as soon as he faces temptation by a succubus because he has never been exposed to worldly desires, thus having a low resistance. Ambrosio also strikes a bargain with the devil in desperation, which Anakin kind of also does, but with someone more terrible than the devil: Sheev Palpatine.
Also he had Palpatine slowly dropping hints for years that the Sith and the Dark Side weren't so bad, they were just misunderstood by people who were afraid of them.
"Anakin's willingness to do anything to save his wife is too quick"
IKR? It's not like he went through some tramatic experience, such as finding the mother he hadn't seen in years tortured and watching as the life drained from her eyes, to motivate him to protect the second of the most important women in his life(sorry Snips, you take 3rd in this list). Let's not forget that the life his child was at stake as well.
Plus, once he had his foot too far in the door he found out that the most important person in his life was dead because of him. What's he supposed to do, say "oh sorry guys I guess I don goofed"? With his wife gone and the things he did to try and save her over there was nothing left for him other than serve the Empire.
@VelCrowd All these years an avid fan yet never saw that planet metaphor! Wow! Brilliant!
This deserves more likes.
@@vaderdown788 that's more an opinion than a fact... but It's definitely one I wouldn't be against.
Why wouldn't he kill himself then. Also the problem was how gulible anakin was.
But your not looking at it oBJecTiVLy
When you are the greatest hero and villain.
Revan is basically Anakin told well... Until he isn't
Star Wars is basically the rise, fall, and redemption of Anakin Skywalker. As much as I love Luke Skywalker, Anakin is just a more fleshed out character given his entire life story. Also I agree that after he chopped off Mace Windu's arm, that was it, there was no way the jedi order would forgive him. At that point, Anakin was probably so emotionally unbalanced that he fully allowed the dark side of the force to overwhelm him, at least, thats my theory on his sudden shift to the dark side in episode Three
joltwarrior to deal with Anakins fall they needed to evolve and not be so narrow minded. Anakin needed to be embraced and helped sling by all of them not put on the outskirts . To not allow him master ship was a slap in the face . They needed more forsite to help him.
joltwarrior loved this families Story. Needed more of them as Force ghosts Anakin to unite and empower Rey! Better closure!!
joltwarrior I think it was killing younglings. After that he knew he couldn’t come back. I’ve had a big personal change in life. Angry tears came before the change.
The darkside blinded him to the fact he still was redeemable, he could stop windu from executing palpatine, while shielding windu from palpatine, windu and anakin were both right and both wrong
The darkside works by blinding those it affects and strips reason and hope until all that is left is desires and passions and seeking a power that they dont even have any use or reason for by the time they achieve it, or they wouldn't stay blinded by the darkside and would find balance between light and dark again
joltwarrior your right
My absolute favourite character in the whole of Star Wars, both his light and dark phases.
same
I just realized that obiwan was supposed to stick up for Anakin in front if the council like Quigon kind of did for him.
Yes but he never did he says he was his brother but in reality all he did was talk trash about him o his abilities have mad him arrogant obi wan lied to anikan alot he wanted to prove that he could be better than anikan as well but ultimately knew he wasnt thats exactly he left him for dead instead of forfeiting the fight like luke did
No, obi wan did way more then talk trash about him..
@@luisacevedo8772 Hm, honestly obiwan is the one who technically killed anakin, say anakin did die on mustafar obiwan killed him then. Yoda said anakin was gone and obiwan just went along, obiwan didn’t even try to help or bring anakin back all he said was “well than u are lost” obiwan gave up on anakin he says anakin was his brother and he loved him but if you loved him, you wouldn’t have lied, not Stand up for him and yea, you left him to burn that’s your fault, he wasn’t fully gone yet but you lost hope. Honestly idk- I think obiwan is overrated in my opinion doesn’t mean I Don’t like him just- idk
@@pumpkinbagelpatch yes he did kill him but that's because he trained him n also knew is weaknesses n was basically fighting like Mayweather running until the best chance to strike anakin was blind with rage he wasn't balanced calm or relaxed like duku if he was he would have won
@@luisacevedo8772 I hate when people say obiwan is more powerful than anakin because he won the fight, excuse me but I don’t remember anakin losing because obiwan was more powerful, stronger or a better duelist. Obiwan won because he was being smarter, and he was calm, he also knew anakin like a brother so he knew what his weaknesses were.
I literally just finished watching the Clone Wars and was thinking about how well rounded the series made the characters of Anakin and Ahsoka (plus all the others really). Thanks to that series we have some of the best written character of all time
Highly recommend rebels after tcw!
@Lionard Kirsch ahsoka is amazing in it. I love seeing her as an adult. She is the wisest one there
@Lionard Kirsch yeah, she isn't the main character, but hopefully season 5, or the sequel to rebels will have her and Sabine as the main characters.
Either way, I highly recommend the show. I actually like Ezra and Sabine. To each their own, I guess, but its good canon star wars content. Definitely far better than the sequels.
Boggless there won’t be a season 5 sorry
In Attack of the Clones, Anakin was nineteen years old. No one behaved awkwardly and like an idiot when they were teenagers? That speak of the arrogance of some people, they think that they had the perfect teenage years, that were gods for woman, if anyone think like this, they never had real teenage years in their lives.
Anakin is my favourite character in StarWars so much emotion for me whenever I rewatch the prequels.
@Tom The Fish Then don't watch them? You just sound like an idiot.
Phantom menace came out when I was 7, and Jake Lloyd(the actor who played Anakin) was 9. As such, I sort of saw myself in Anakin a little bit, and he became the character I identified more with than any other. You can really identify with his motivations, and it always makes me think “what would I be doing in these circumstances? Would I do the same thing?”
On another note, for people who always think it’s not realistic for anakin turning all of a sudden, there’s a really cool movie on Netflix called push, where they take 4 everyday people, and take them down a little bit of a chain of events leading them to the point where they have to decide whether or not to murder someone to save themselves, and 3 of the 4 do it. At the point where he cuts off windu’s hand to save palps, he is now in too deep, and at that point becoming Vader has become the easy path
Not only that palpatine was his friend and never was not on his side trusted him with everything because he knew he could be great windu never did neither did the order because they couldn't control him most of us would do the same things these people would not let him go see his mother when he was having nightmares actual vision of her in pain because there code was attachment is forbidden so he lost his mom and basically no one cared because he should have let her go along time ago he could have saved her like obi wan saved padme they had the power but never showed him because the fear of wat he could become
Anakin is the best Star Wars character that everyone can relate to. It’s hard for me to fault every decision he made since I would have probably did it too.
Such a great character. Especially if you watch The Clone Wars. It expands on his character very well.
only in the clone wars
Yun Su Even if you don’t like him in the prequels, you gotta admit he had some great moments in the prequels.
The clone wars saved the character in my opinion, looking back on the prequels given how bad the sequal trilogy was I can watch and enjoy them alot more than I ever did for all their faults at least the prequels had been planned out not just letting the directors do whatever they wanted with no thought of how they would tie them together
@@Daemon1356 If you want a good clone wars anakin that expands on his character watch the original 2003 clone wars.
Please stop this prequel/sequel hate. Hayden did a great job on playing Anakin in it, and made it the driving force of the trilogy.
You can tell that the guy who said that if you gave Anakin more than a B, you weren’t being objective, holds a very simple view, and doesn’t really understand the complexity of Anakin’s character
If you really look at Anakin and his performance in the prequels from a psychological point of view, he actually makes a lot of sense! People complain about Hayden showing no emotion but that’s exactly what such a kid would become under the given circumstances! He’s raised as a slave yes, but that implies more than lack of freedom. That implies that he was raised seeing terrible things and likely being abused. This would damage anybody’s connection with those around them. This would also breed distrust. So he dreams of saving himself and his mother (as many trapped or abused children do) and he’s finally given the opportunity to do so but can’t help his own mother. That’s a lot of guilt to add onto an already damaged psyche. Then he gets taken into a very strict and harsh group that tells him to stop reacting to his emotions. In his broken mind, that means stop feeling at all. Every time he sought help, he encountered his mentors telling him to just let it go or to be afraid of what he was feeling. They used the dark side as this big bad boogie monster that’s going to get him if he does anything based on feelings. They were well intentioned, but this type of teaching causes many mental health problems in children raised with it and they become emotionless zombies who, when they finally show emotion, express it awkwardly, inappropriately, and fiercely (in regard to anger). They take things to extremes and then go back to seeming like brick walls. All this time, he was being conditioned by palpatine to have complete loyalty to him through subtle tactics. Palpatine became the only person he ever trusted aside from his mother so he would follow him, even when promises were broken. He would defend him nomatter what because that’s what a broken slave boy does for his new master. Luke only pulls him out of it by helping him see the error in both palpatine and the Jedi. It’s actually really interesting when you consider the deeper implications of his life. I’m my opinion, his performance was wonderful for what he was portraying.
Anakin was one of my favorite prequel charaters, alongside Yoda, Windu, Grievous, Sidious, Dooku, Maul, Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, Panaka... Maybe it's time for you guys to admit the prequels are great.
I loved all the SW movies! Episode 9 though left me unsatisfied though. It messed with Anakins redemption. I needed him as a force Ghost to help set things straight once and for all! Anakin, Luke, Leia are SW! The family all as force Ghost to set it right!!! I will always love Anakin as a darling boy and alluring young man! No wonder Padme feel in love wow older beauty and young inexperienced handsome sexy guy! You fill in the rest!!!
No love for Qui-Gon ?
@@AlexYBITW I forgot about him! Thanks for the memo.
@Lionard Kirsch I feel almost the same. In my opinion the sequels were great, but TROS was a little bit underwhelming. Yes, the coherency could have been better, but at least Lucasfilm revived their greatest creation.
@@elainenagano9829 I thought Anakin's story was told in 1-6 tho. There was no need to have him battle Palpatine. I would've liked it if he came on screen to guide Rey/Ben.
Anakin is my all time favorite character in all of Star Wars. I never understood the backlash behind him. He is so relatable and has so many layers embedded into his story. There is so much substance where Anakin is concerned.
To me, Anakin is one of the greatest characters in fiction. He is (and still is, not you Rey) the Chosen One. He fell to the dark side because of his love for his family and yet returned to the light because of that very same love. Thanks to Luke, he redeemed himself and brought balance back to the Force.
he is the most complex character in this franchise, the closest we get to to a character study in the franchise, namely of a good (borderline personality) person systematically being corrupted into an anti-hero and villain who betrays everything he swore to protect. I love how all his dark deeds and motivations in III are already foreshadowed and set up in the previous films, like the inability to let go of attachments and fear of loss, wiping out villages and flirtttig with dictatorship.
The Clone Wars Anakin is fine but a bit too one dimensional for my taste, but that is ok for this kind of adventure show directed at the inner child.
Thank you!!! I'm tired of people praising TCW Anakin to put down film Anakin.
I think the same. Thank you!!!
Probably my favourite character in any sort of media. His rise, his fall, and his redemption are all so fascinating.
Pls do darth maul :) he has a lot of depth to him. considering how he was introduced then killed off.
I always liked Anakin, and I didn't watch Clone Wars until a few years ago. Honestly, I still feel a disconnect between the two versions of the character.
Even as a child who had only scene the sw trilogy special edition I always saw return of the jedi as more about Vader than Luke
Anakin is the perfect character. He can't be a totally nice guy, because he must become Vader later. But he's good and everything he does is for love. Star Wars is about the tragic story of Anakin Skywalker (The Tragedy of Anakin Skywalker The Chosen One). (Note: The performances were perfect) And the story surrounding him is AMAZING.
Anakin was a slave destined to be The Chosen one, and who falls in love with a woman, whose love is imposible (Because of the Jedi Order and Padme's political career). Despite his destiny, despite everything he did, despite being so powerful, he couldn't save his mother and later his wife (the persons he truly loved). And once he joins the Dark Side (for love) he's blinded, as the Jedi told him, and falls in an unscapable trap.
Years passed and his son, the only thing that still connected him with her love Padme, the last hope he had, helped him and cared about him as no one had done in many years. He then saw the light one last time and gave his life to save not just the galaxy, but what was the most important thing for him, the last remanent of his love with Padme.
Anakin gave everything he had to save Padme, and at last he gave his own life to save the last thing left of her, Luke, their son.
And Anakin Skywalker, The Chosen One, fulfilled his destiny and left this world in peace after seeing Padme one last time, after looking at Luke's eyes.
as someone who works with people who have mental health issues... some of the characteristics of Anakin Skywalker are very real... PTSD can effect people in many different ways and its not unheard of people turning against loved ones when external factors play a part especially when they have been abused themselves. Anakin was a slave he was prob subject to abuse.. this can manifest for years... with out the right support it can turn into mistrust, hatred, self loafing and literary destroy a person. The Jedi dismissed anakin's attachments just telling him not to feel them... Love could set him free... (Padme/ Obiwan/ Ashoka) but they were all lost... (Died/mistrust/abandoned by his "family") The only other way was through hate because that what his known.. It also got him some of the other things he desired (Travel/being hailed a hero (examples throughout the CW)/getting the info he wanted/control) There is a reason he sounds so monotone sometimes...
I find it baffling that no one understood his fall. In the beginning Palpatine says a certain line and later Windu says the same line of Palpatine, "He's to dangerous to be left alive." In that instant Anakin realised that the Jedi and Sith were opposite sides to a coin and desperately moved to save the one who had moments ago told him had a way to save Padme. He made a split second decision that he couldn't come back from, he helped assassinate one of the two leaders of the Jedi order. He even realizes what he did with horror before again realizing that he had no choice but to side with Palpatine. Palpatine then tells him to show no mercy, and literally kill everything in the temple. Only then would he be strong enough to possibly save Padme. He did so, and then he was given his next mission, he stopped to talk to his wife, then went to kill of the CIS leaders. It was only after he had done so that he was left without a mission to occupy him and he began to look at his actions but he knew he was long past the point of turning back. And he had also gained a taste of power that he liked, he was even ready to overthrow the emperor because of his hunger for more power. Its a drug he couldn't get enough of.
Well, I think Anakin is a fascinating character study. He wants control because he's never really had it.
He was born into slavery, then as a Jedi Padawan, he was introduced to a different life that instilled strict rules and guidelines on his behavior, his positive influences often die outside of his control, and he was emotionally manipulated into committing evil acts. Anakin really is just a scared little boy trying to form and hold on to what fleeting attachments he can.
Yeah he was a 19 year old who was awkward with Padme, but also keep in mind that he's literally had zero positive romantic role models in his life. His mom was single, any couples he met as a slave were likely very nasty (because it was a haven for pirates, criminals and other scum of the universe), and the jedi expressly forbade romance.
Padme was his number one choice because she saw him as a person, and Padme fell for him because she's talented at seeing people for who they are.
Older Star Wars fans had Luke Skywalker, my generation had Anakin Skywalker, and new generations will have Rey.
Anakin is a highly complex, and even with all the recognition he's getting, I still feel he's a highly underrated character.
I was a little too harsh in my criticism of Anakin. I gave him a C in the comments, but I'd change it to a solid B. He has almost everything going for him character wise, it's just that George didn't land the sinker with the Romance subplot in AOTC. That would've solidified Anakin as a A+ hero in my book.
Don't forget that the AOTC romance dialogue was written to be awkward. How would you talk to someone who's been your fantasy for a decade of slavery to an order of monks that forces you to supress your emotions? Padmé also kinda suffered from the same problem being a senator and all. You can not like the plot in it's execution and that's fair, but the way it was made makes complete sense in universe and for the characters themselves.
Quico Gil I actually love the plot of AOTC, and how the climax built to Geonosis. I even think most of the lines spoken between Padme and Anakin are fine. However, what I would've done as a filmmaker is reverse the roles of their romance. Instead of Anakin simply pursuing Padme the whole time without any adaptation on his part leaves a lot to be desired narratively. The best way to visualize this would be looking at the Obi Wan and Jango chase scene in the asteroid field in space: This scene is not simply showing Obi Wan chasing Jango the whole time, but rather showing a dynamic between the two in said chase. Obi wan trails behind Jango at first, then all of the sudden Jango turns the table on Obi Wan by then trailing him. Why not just have Obi Wan chase Jango the entire time? It could've worked just fine that way, but George chose the most compelling conflict to make for the better scene. I think this dynamic should've been implemented in Anakin's and Padme's relationship. Maybe Anakin shoots his shot and get humiliated, thereby in *fear* of rejection he avoids hitting on Padme like the plague. Maybe Padme sees this and tries to slowly affirm her love for him. Maybe because of Anakin's loyalty to the Jedi and uncertainty of falling to the dark side, it never works out. Until, the death of Anakin's mother brings them closer together tragically, THEN they both accept what's in front of them. I just feel like this would've landed harder, but at the end of the day I'm more than happy with the SW movies I got. The inspiration I got from specifically the Prequels and Lucas' vision that lead me to want to make films of my own is more than enough substance for me. It's just the quizzical side of my imagination showing again.
Lionard Kirsch Yes!! The more the better! This is why writers' rooms exist lol
At the end of the day, this is such a little detail in contrast to everything else Anakin brings to the table. The last thing I am arguing for is his ineffectiveness as a character. He's a top 3 favorite SW hero of mine, and I'm glad that people see what I'm tryna say here.
a B? Looks like youre not as dissapointed now
How about calling it "Let's RATE (Rate, Analyse, Talk about, and Explain?) Some Star Wars"
Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader, whether you count TCW or not, is one of the greatest, most complex, and most consistent characters in the saga.
The dichotomy of Anakin Skywalker is my favorite part of his character. He’s everything a Jedi should be yet at the same time he’s everything a Jedi shouldn’t be. A light in the dark to those around him yet his light was diminished by that same darkness. He is a great character and a great fallen hero in my book. But when I look at his entire life and the internal conflict he always had I do sometimes ask myself. Did he ever stand?
Anakin Skywalker - The Fallen Hero
Anikan is an a+ character if u look at every part of his character from kid to adult yes he was ENSLAVED his whole life but most of us r that's how he relates to us the kid grows up to be the best something we all want to be but ends up becoming the villain of his own story which most of us do but he shows us that u can take a turn and fix ur heading on the map if u just reevaluate your perception of the street and what u want out of it the best character as a whole of any movie
I love Anakin Skywalker as a character, I love how Hayden & Lucas portrayed the character as a Shakespearian speaking weirdo like all of the Jedi who raised him for half of his life. He was perfectly portrayed as an optimistic kid in TPM, an emotional, unbalanced young adult in AOTC & ROTS, & Anakin is my favorite character in fiction. He is so heavily flawed, he's based in his emotions, he reminds me of myself, I have weird speech patterns & I get emotional when things go wrong, I get angry when I see companies like Nintendo & Lucasfilm disrespecting their fans so much. I feel alone a lot of the time, I've done bad things, but I know I have a heart deep down. Anakin is my hero, after him I love Luke, R2, Rex, Maul & a whole bunch of the other guys, but Anakin takes the cake. He's my hero, & I can always count on him, remind myself of him when I need strength.
*Scores below his padawan*
"This is outrageous. It's unfair."
People don't realize that Anakin just turned to the dark side of the force he was seduced by the dark side. From the lose of his mother to the likelihood that he could save Padme from death was all about him being seduced by Palpatine
Anakin is the perfect embodiment of the struggle between selflessness and desire/selfishness. He tries to be good and cares deeply for those close to him, but his selflessness turns to selfishness when their well being becomes the highest priority and at all costs. When his actions result in the death of the one he cared for most, his justification that it was all for her crumbles, leaving him with nothing but self loathing and resentment. In an effort to silence these feelings of guilt, he cut himself off from his emotions and humanity, becoming the monster that is Darth Vader. Only through Luke, who showed him the greater strength of love and forgiveness, do his selfless roots break through the layer of self hatred he'd made for himself, resulting in his final selfless act and his attempt at redemption for his past mistakes.
He's my favorite character in Star Wars. How can he not, I grew up with him.
Ive never cared for Matt Lanter's delivery. He makes Anakin sound like a jock show-off rather than a troubled thrillseeker.
As for why Padme fell for Anakin, I would posit that she could see how sincere he was, that he was trying, and she genuinely believed in the good that was in him, the same good that was there when she first met him. Padme was always wise beyond her years, and I don't think it's a stretch to think that she could see past the cringe.
Anakin is the only person Padmé feels like she can just be herself, show him her TRUE self , not her public persona Amidala. She can loose herself and be relaxed. She can tell him what she really thinks about things, showing frustration or even anger and nothing happens. She can be silly and funny without any kind of worry too.
People often don't see the stark constrast that Anakin and Padmé are two very emotional and passionate individuals in a society in which stoicism and restraint is expected of them, so when they are together they don't need to mask their emotions: there's no judgements, expectances or can be used as a vulnerabilty against them. And finding that kind of acceptance is relief.
They are 'children at heart'(that's what the silly romantic scenes are showing you!) who bear a great responsability and have big expectances placed on them(they take on the expectances too), so they understand what it means better than anyone else that surrounds them.
Anakin is my favorite character tbh. He embodies fully our human nature.
How we want to be selfless, kind and protect those we love, but at the same time arrogant, naive and hateful. Also in The Phantom Menace he believes he is finally free but is he really? He always has a master and rules to follow.
I believe that in many ways we are all a little bit like him and his tragic arc shows us what would become of us if we do not focus on the good things that happen to us (Anakin's friendship with Obi Wan for example, Padme's pregnancy).
Also his story makes you question if YOU are ever trully free. Freedom is actually subjective and acurately shown in the prequels.
Also his fall to the dark side and then his redemption gives a sense of catharsis, that no matter what you are never too far gone- you can always come back.
To me at least he is a deep and complex character and I can actually say that when I watch the prequels I see a little bit of myself as well (without the men, women, and children slaughtering- oviously xD).
So, I really want to take a moment to appreciate George Lucas for the MASTERPIECE that is the *real* Star Wars (the Disney Star Wars is just a disappointment that ends with EVIL- Creamy Sheev Rey Palps- rulling the galaxy and looking at Luke's sunset whilst having stolen, ruined and burried the Skywalker legacy in *SAND* ).
He's definitely my favorite.
You can count Spencer Wilding in Rogue One as another who played Anakin/Vader. Doesn't get more iconic than the hallway/slaughter scene!
I love Anakin Skywalker. Without a doubt my favorite Star Wars character. I'm happy with the people who portrayed him in the films and tv shows, but Hayden Christensen and Matt Lanter made my childhood.
Anakin will always be my favourite character in Star Wars and one of my favourites overall in any work of fiction. His story, choices, fall, and redemption are so fascinating to me and I can't help but love the tragedy of his entire life. That commenter that said he spent his entire life as a slave is spot on and it's honestly just so sad. All he ever wanted was to be free and to save the people he loved and he finally got exactly that at the very end of his life. It's why Return of the Jedi is my favourite Star Wars film and has been since even before I saw the prequels. I love the idea that anyone can be saved and that the very thing that caused his fall (his love for his family) is also what brought about his redemption.
Anakin will never be topped as a character in the saga. Certainly not by Kennedy and her team.
I hate when people say Anakin's turn either made no sense or was rushed and I'm just thinking they had to of only watched Episode 3 to think this. Because even without the Clone Wars cartoon you can clearly understand his fall into the dark side.
Episode 1: He was a child slave who was separated from his mother and indoctrinated into a cult like religion propping him up as a very important figure as the chosen one.
Episode 2: We see him being belittered, talked down to, told to forget emotions, continuing to prop him up as an important figure as the chosen one but continuing to keep him in the dark, he then finds out his mother is kidnapped/tortured/killed.
Episode 3: Constantly lied too/given missions that are against the Jedi code (the thing that has been forced on him for over 12 years), the Council doesn't trust him (Blatantly said out loud by Mace Windu), fear of losing his wife and unborn child, advice to that is meh learn to let go, and when in a situation where Windu was going to kill Palps (something again Anakin is witnessing a high ranking Jedi do something against the Jedi Code) so in a desperation move disarms Windu which leads to Windu's death...
His anger and dislike of the Jedi and his dark path was set out since the begining.
Now think to yourself, he just helped in the murder of a high ranking Jedi and there is at least still a chance to learn a power to save your wife and child, what he's just gonna surrender to the Jedi and say sorry? Gonna throw away everything, once he made that decision it was too late for him. Regardless of your thoughts on the Prequels, if you didn't pick this up from the films, sorry but that's a you problem, and I honestly question your intelligence, especially if you then go to say the opening "complaint" in my comment.
I think when taking into account all the comics and books across legends or canon, he does become one.
Shout out to the person who said "We're all Star Wars fans and we're all gonna like different things and that's ok." BLESS. YOU. We need more fans like this, please.
Captain Rex! He is my favorite character in Star Wars, plus he went through hell in the clone wars. Umbrara, The Citadel, and his relationship with Domino Squad is a highlight of the show.
One of the things I really sympathise with Anakin as a character is that Mace Windu was like that manager at your job who’s always getting on your back and putting you down. Palpatine is an older coworker that you’ve built a connection with, is always complimenting your work, and you share a lot of good conversation with.
Now imagine you’re in the situation Anakin is in, yeah. You’re gonna cut your asshole manager’s hands off, because fuck him for all he’s done to you. Your friendly coworker (despite the fact he really turns out to be evil) has promised you the help you need. And at this time you don’t know any better.
It’s one of my favourite scenes in the film because I’ve had managers like that in the past.
“I feel the main reason people late his character is because they relate to him more than they want to admit and are comfortable with so they accuse the writing of being bad as a cheap defence mechanism” - Stokes.
There is a lot of truth to that. I feel so about Korra in LOK. Complex character that had massive emotional and mental struggles you simply cannot punch or force through to win while at the same time shouldering crippling expectations of them . The Star Wars prequels and LOK are not without their glaring faults. But I’m ever grateful they gave me mirrors of me even if I don’t live in their universe as a Force sensitive person or an Avatar or element bender. Ironically, that’s good writing / or a good story.
Gotta say really think Anakin is definitely a greater overall character than Ahsoka. Based both on their separate journeys and the fact that yes both he and Vader are in fact the same person. Each personality is still him but on each end of the spectrum.
Anakin has the struggle of all of us there‘s always a part in us that says help the others but one that says think of your self.
Qui-Gon: He, is the Chosen One. He, will bring balance. Train him.
Rey and Ben's "Dyad": I'm gonna stop you right there.
Anakin/Vader is the greatest, most important and iconic Star Wars character ever! It's HIS story arc: from his fall all the way to his redemption (note: Luke was only the catalyst who turns him back).
Over the last few years I have been rewatching the prequels with the mindset that these movies are about Anakin. So I have been paying closer attention to what Anakin does in the movies and it has made me like him a lot more. Watching the Clone Wars, especially the Mordis storyline, has made me like him even more. Trickled throughout all of the stories you see this slide to the dark side that leads to his eventual plummet off the side of the cliff that is his fall. Then you watch his journey as Darth Vader and see his final journey to becoming Anakin again and it is beautiful poetry. You take a character who was so focused on his relationships. They were all he had to live for. He loses his mom. He loses Ahsoka. He loses Padme. He loses Obi-Wan. He loses his child. His story is filled with loss. He functions as Vader because Palpatine is the only person he has to live for. Then he finds out Luke is still alive and he has a reason to live again.
I don't know about anyone else, but The Clone Wars did not save Anakin's character for me. The Clone Wars only enhanced his character and flaws. In the Phantom Menace, I feel that Anakin started his fall towards the darkness when he left his mother behind. The Clone Wars movie highlighted his inner conflicts such as pride, control, and his difficulty in dealing with his emotions for Padme. This took him further down the dark path when his mother died and he took out his pain on the Tuskan Raiders. Revenge of the Sith only brought those flaws to the forefront with the ever increasing fear of losing his wife which made him more vulnerable to Palpatine's lies.
For me, the movies gave me the overall structure as to why he fell to the dark side. The Clone Wars TV show provided the context needed within that structure. In other words, I have always seen Anakin as a great character. Much better than any character that Disney has come up with.
Facts
Jonathan Poston, same.
I always loved the character and liked the actor. Never seen the problem with Hayden.
The child actor for a child actor did well enough.
And Hayden's acting was fine in EPII and especially III.
There's some dialogue here and there that's cringey or cheesy as can be.
But that's far less the actor's fault.
As for Anakin as a whole.
He's the heart and soul of the entire Saga. It's his story first and foremost.
Ironic that that's one of the reasons Disney has failed so miserably. They really want to flee the legacy of Vader and the Skywalker line.
With most painful selfdestructive results.
I honestly dont get that dude who made the comment about prequel bias. Between his first appearance and the very moment he puts the mask on he's been given reasons to hate the Jedi. His turn to the dark side makes perfect sense, especially when you consider that he is prone to darker feelings. Some of us are more susceptible than others, but susceptible nonetheless. Anakin is a man of furious passion, and it makes sense that bottling up his frustrations for a decade would cause him to burst when the only father figure in his life is being killed by one of the greatest antagonists - one who would not grant him the rank of master, despite fully deserving it.
The only people that say “Ben Solo is the most complex, interesting character in all of Star Wars” are the Disney Millennials who started taking interest in Star Wars after TFA in 2015.
John Cena my guy millennials are in their early to late 20’s. If the person you’re referring to is younger than that is probably gen Z
Wobblefoot my bad lol, but you know who I meant; The children, Reylos.
Anakin Skywalker is easily my favorite character in the history of fiction.
I always thought the hate against Hayden’s portrayal of Anakin was unjustified (though AoTC was pretty cringy at times). I liked Anakin, but always felt there was something missing. The Clone Wars made me fall in love with Anakin. It shows just how tragic his fall to the darkside really was. Anakin’s downfall was his intense love for others and his desire to be recognized as the powerful Jedi he was. TCW did such an amazing job showing Anakin’s struggles with the darkside, his increasing violent nature that develops as the war progresses, his justifiable distrust of the Council, and his loving nature that ends up being his downfall. Anakin is a masterpiece of a character.
Ok. I'm not trying to write a sociology paper here, and I can and do enjoy all of Star Wars for the sheer entertainment value. That being said, eventually one finds things that, while not necessarily allegorical, are quite applicable. As an adult, I've always thought of the dark side as a drug. A very addictive drug. Unfortunately, it took Anakin nearly 20 years to put down the needle, and he lost himself and all that he held dear in the process. In the words of Neil Young, 'Every junkie's like a setting sun'. Just my thoughts.
Exactly. That drug is 'POWER'. 👍👏👏
I really hate the notion of 'the clone wars show saved this character'. No it didnt. Anakin was perfect in ROTS and played well prior, i have never enjoyed that show
Thank you!
Thank you so much for stating this. I agree wholeheartedly. Clone Wars Anakin is a step down, IMO.
@@ankhmahor7211 multiple arcs but never season by season as it wasnt in order so i watched what interested me and a few others, even as a kid i felt like this
@@PinkieJuice ikr, i dont mind the show but i hate it being shoved at me every where star wars content is and a lot of stuff in the show contradicts the films
I enjoyed clones wars show. But the no.1 thing I didn't like was what they did to anakin character in the show. Anakin is my favorite character in star wars cuz of the prequel films and how deep and good George lucas character writing is for anakin. 2008 clone wars didn't feel like the live action anakin from the films i loved and I didn't like that. Hayden Christensen and George lucas will always be the best
i definitely have major bias since i loved anakin as a kid when i first watched the prequels (at that time i had also been watching the clone wars) but i actually really like prequel anakin. i can understand the pain he has. the jedi council never considered the toll they put on a child, telling him he was the person who would save everyone. he was completely alone in his pain and obi wan couldn't relate to him or comfort anakin because he was still reeling from the loss of his surrogate father (qui gon jinn). the awkward flirting is super funny to me but i know guys who flirt exactly like him, not to mention he's been raised by asexual monks. perfect character overall, i think hayden was a perfect anakin.
With season 7 done now I'd say Anakin's sudden fall has been explored to the fullest with 2 scenes (his reunion with Ahsoka in Rebels and the last scene of season 7 of him finding her saber in a mass graveyard) being the most subtle but at the same time hit the hardest and added the most. In the Rebels scene when he calls out to Ahsoka and her saying "i wont leave you, not this time" the amount of emotion conveyed by his one eye was unreal, starting with surprise and consideration by widening, immediate shame and looking away, closing them in knowing he has committed too many atrocities to find salvation and lastly returning to ice cold embracing his sins with that long pause in his reply just twisting that knife in your heart. Couple that with the scene at the graveyard and him finding her sabers and assuming she's dead and with her his last tether to his humanity and the last nail in the coffin of "Anakin", he turns and in the reflection of the helmet, painted in Ahsokas colors by the clones in her honor, walks away now fully Vader.
I always pictured his snap fall in the movie as the dark side being like the drug for power, all you need is one step to fall in. Couldn't tell you if the selflessness/discipline light side and easy path to power dark side is from me remembering movie things or extended universe things though.
A good next character to do would be Revan, a Jedi and Sith who was a unique force user and fan-favourite character. Plus he looks really cool.
How did they get from "the most complex character ever" In anakin to "the blandest character ever" In rey??
Anakin said what have I done when he killed windu. Him wanting padme for himself and the fear of losing struck him and didn’t think. From that line anakin knew he did something wrong. He couldn’t go back. He basically had no choice.
Problem with Anakin ? 3 movies instead of 6.
That would give proper time to tell a story from childhood to fall.
Yeah I love Anakin Skywalker for sure, he’s probably one of the most important characters. I think the most defining moment has to be when Padme asks “you’re a slave?” And the little boy snaps back “I’m Anakin Skywalker.” He’s Anakin, not a slave, not a Jedi. His own person, even after years of being a sith lord he redeems himself by yeeting palpatine down a well to save his son because he’s Anakin.
This is the very first time I've ever heard somebody else point out that Anakin was an emotionally suppressed teenager flirting with his childhood crush and was MEANT to be awkward as holy hell, and I am incredibly grateful to you for that.
I missed the vote in time for your comments so I apologize for the late post… but just my two cents. I was originally thinking a 4, but considered another way of thinking of Anakin’s arc and a solid 5, along with his Padawan. Not necessarily, from beginning to end, in terms of age, but rather, how we actually come to learn of Anakin. From Obi-wan’s comments to Luke on Tatoonie to Luke learning the truth, to his redemption. The Prequels clouds or bring down scores. BUT, the important thing that people will say is that the Clone Wars saved pre-Vader Anakin. And that is true. The Clone Wars saved Anakin’s character pretty much across the board. So much story was told, we really came to understand Anakin’s many complex layers. His character arc, using the Clone Wars (an animated series), shows Disney exactly how to fix Luke’s character arc. We knew Anakin’s fate, yet a the clone wars was the tool to save the character in the eyes of many of the fans. The animated route allowed to show the extreme capabilities of the Jedi of the clone wars. The fans want to see Luke’s story, the story where apparently he reached extreme levels of force attunement. If seeing Anakin’s story told through the Clone Wars, saved his character in the eyes of many of the fans, there is no reason to believe that the same can’t done with Luke. Ultimately, it all comes down to the story. The clone wars was some of the best story telling in Star Wars.
I can't necessarily agree with the premise of the question "was Anakin (saved) by the Clone Wars?" Because since the inception of the PT trilogy Anakin is and HAS, been my favorite Star Wars character... did the Clone Wars make Anakin better??? YES!
I half agree. Anakin has been my favourite since the PT trilogy but I think TCW version isn't the best.
I just love him in the prequels. After seeing people talk about Clone Wars, I watched a few episodes and he's not as good. It's literally the cartoonified version of him. Can't imagine him slaughtering Tuskens or experiencing his mother's torture/death, missing so much of his darkness.
@@PinkieJuice They had to make him a cartoon hero literally so he was changed or so they say. He really comes off as bland.
@@rikudoubapeck Very bland. Very generic version of Anakin. Can't watch the Clone Wars because his portrayal is so lame.
@@ankhmahor7211 IIt's a cartoon, of course the character is more cartoonish and whitewashed than in he is in a movie where he slaughters Tuskens or is set on fire, LOL. He loses a lot of his nuance and depth on the show, also his edge. And I watched all the important Anakin episodes, like Mortis and the Jedi bombing. Sorry, I don't like how bland he is in the show. Like I stated before, Anakin in the ROTS novel is the best and most true portrayal of his movie counterpart.
Sudden fall?
Remember the sand people massacre?
That’s when it started.
It bothers me that people make fun of characters cause there whiny even though LOTS OF PEOPLE ARE WHINY IN REAL LIFE!
Ironic
-Sheev Palpatine
Those people who make fun of it are usually the whiniest. I think the person who said that Anakin haters mostly can't admit to their own flaws they see in him is spot on!
That's a real funny comment. There is lots of negative traits people have in real life. That doesn't mean we want a character to be that way.
But we want a movie to have realistic traits in movies so we can look on them and say what would I do in that situation? So having every character have a perfect personality is wrong plus Luke was just as whiny and no one cares
@@CosmicBricksStudios It's also realistic to not be whiny too. Most smart people don't go off on a whiny rant in front of a girl he likes that he just seen after 10 years. That was cringy. His realationship with Padme had no chemistry and it wasn't realistic that she would like him. The way he acted should have creeped her out. He is also stupid. He likes and puts trust in Palpatine even after he is acting evil and tells him to leave Obi Wan behind. But it's not a matter of whether it's realistic or not. Many people don't like him.
Although it may be too late for this comment, but I just want too explain, why Anakin's fall in ROTS makes more sense then most people think.
As soon as Anakin leaves the temple, he already decides: "No matter what, I need to save Palpatine, I need that knowledge to save Padme". He enters Palpatine's office and sees defeated Sidius who starts playing a role of a weak old man, who cannot protect himself from Windu. We, as audience know that this is all just manipulations to turn Anakin, but Anakin doesn't. When Windu says that he is going to kill Palpatine right here and right now, Anakin has just couple of seconds to make a decision. Chopping off Windu's hand was rather conscious choice then otherwise.
According to some psychology research that makes perfect sense. People often make bad decisions, because a person who has great authority says them to do so. This is why dictators like Hitler come to power and convince there people to unnecessary wars. And this is exactly what happens to Anakin. Palpatine is a greater authority to him then Windu. He was his mentor, friend, hero (as a politician) and, in some degree, his father for more then 10 years. He was the only person with whom Anakin could share anything, including his feelings about his mother, his doubts about Jedy order and it's codex and even that he slaughtered a whole village to revenge his mother's death. Plus, Palpatine was a great manipulator. I think that most of people, who say that it is so obvious that Palpatine manipulates Anakin and Anakin is so stupid, because he cannot see it, would make the same choice that Anakin did. Because it is a big difference to watch how someone manipulates people and actually be a victim of manipulations. It is something that marketing does every day, otherwise fanboys wouldn't stand in long queues for hours just to become one of the first owners of a new iPhone.
"I don't know how save her, but together we will figure it out". Hope dies last. Anakin is so afraid to loose Padme that he would rather believe that he can find knowledge and learn how to save people from death in several days, then face the truth and try to kill or arrest Palpatine. And also remember, that Anakin was in a deep shock after realizing what he has just made to Windu. In such moments people are extremely vulnerable.
I actually had an experience of some sort of such manipulation. I was going home when suddenly a man started to tell me that I stepped on his foot, even though I didn't. He was rude and created a feeling that if I'll try to go away, he will hit me in my back. It seemed to me that physically he was far stronger then me. At some moment he became more "friendly". My inner voice was just yelling that I need to get rid of that guy, but I was so afraid for a such long period of time, that started to think that this guy might be not so bad as I thought initially. Long story short, we were walking for 2 hours and my inner voice was becoming more and more quiet. I literally gave that guy a pretty large amount of money and he gone away. As soon as he disappeared, my mind came back to normal and I understood how easily I was controlled and what a fool I am.
People are extremely illogical creatures.
Character analysis? Classic and simple:)
Everything you said is true with both support and criticism. I grew up with his character and I never felt a closer representation with him than Luke, Anakin was a fallen hero, Luke is the redeemer.
I love his story and character more then any other in star wars for sure
Best overall character:
Luke Skywalker- too good
Sheev Palpatine/Darth Sidious- too evil
Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader- just right
@VelCrowd briefly being the word
I love Anakin, he's my favorite Star Wars character. I think both Clone Wars animated series helped to enhance his positive and negative traits. How can you not love a guy who proudly eats live bugs?!
It seems like the dark side is like a drug. The Sith are supernaturally evil, and the Jedi are normal people (from an ethical point of view).
Anakin's turn to the dark side in Revenge of The Sith is pretty sudden and grandiose, but I think it makes sense within the movie. Palpatine had been talking to Anakin for years, giving him advice and encouragement and subtly poisoning Anakin's belief in Jedi principles. Then all of a sudden here's Mace Windu trying to execute his kindly father figure without even a trial. So Anakin helps Palpatine and suddenly his Jedi career is over. There's no going back after Mace dies - so yeah, Anakin goes all in with his now hideously scarred foster dad and turns against the people who he sees as the real traitors.
This is when the Dark Side kicks in, feeding his escalating rage until Anakin sees no difference between adult Jedi and younglings, just like he saw no difference between the Tusken Raiders. They're all traitors and they all deserve to die.
Then there's Mustafar where everything falls apart. Curiously, he asks Padme to join him in overthrowing Palpatine. This is the action I have the most trouble justifying. You'd think Anakin would be grateful she's safe and just want to take her somewhere where she can give birth, but apparently the Dark Side is a hell of a drug and the voices whispering in his head have already convinced Anakin that he has to be the greatest of all in everything. Then jealousy, he hurts her, Obi-Wan cripples him, and while he's in a haze of pain kindly old Palpatine tells him that he accidentally killed his wife.
That leads to a sort of ego death where his personality blanks out, and Darth Sidious uses the opportunity to rebuild him as the perfect Sith apprentice. It's only years later that any flickers of his old personality start to reemerge.
The Clone Wars is the reason why characters like Grievous, Anakin, Ahsoka, Dooku, Cad Bane and many more are remembered. Minor characters in the movies with poorly written parts made hem forgettable and the Clone Wars made sure to explore each and every one of them and make sure that they are remembered. If the Clone Wars didn’t exist Anakin would be a C character or even a D or F. And of course the novels, comics, video games etc.
Not really. Revenge of the Sith redeemed Anakin's character and made Grievous (who was a joke in TCW and posed no threat whatsoever) iconic.
@@vetarlittorf1807 Exactly, Anakins arc was fine without the show and Grievous is ruined by Tcw
@@josephhughes2429 He needed a few improvements. Luckily Genndy Tartakovsky made that a reality. Then Filoni came and basically turned Anakin into Luke 2.0.
Incorrect. Go out in the street and survey how many people know prequel Anakin vs Clone Wars. The movies are hands down more viewed and more popular. There would be no cartoon without them. Clone Wars fans are getting really bold with these insane claims.
@@ankhmahor7211 No. TCW Grievous was nothing but a punching bag and never gives the viewer ANY reason to take him seriously. At least in ROTS we saw that he was resourceful and cunning and even intimidating.
Also, Grievous was not even remotely OP in the 2003 series. If he were, he wouldn't have lost to Mace Windu so easily. But in 2003 CW, he always used his cunning wit and psychological warfare to catch the Jedi off balance. He never defeated them by raw power or dueling skills.
Mostly ...but I do love to see his growth from child into teenage phase ..basically after episode 1 into start of episode 2
Yes. It's an amazing journey. Then when you get to ep 3 and see that he's matured, but can't let go of the loss of his mother. That moment in ep 1 defined his life.