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They need to give us the sunset content back, IN A WAY that doesnt break the current game. I propose an OFFLINE/Solo/LAN party only model for vaulted content.
I think you missed one big thing: Event Passes. An added on 10 dollar purchase that not only holds more cosmetics that should be earnable but is ontop of the massive eververse focus with each event.
Don't forget the 2019 Solstice event. Last event before armor 2.0. In order to get us to play Bungie promised 2.0 sets when the expansion dropped. Then kicked us in the nuts by giving them 44 stats.
No doubt sunsetting definitely was mishandled badly. They could have just gone after Pinnacle weapons and no one would care. The fact they gutted the entire game and now new lights don't have any clue what's going on in the story because they also sunset the original campaigns for red war and forsaken. The new lights don't even know who Cayde or Ghaul was.
Raiding during the gjallarhorn era was such a chore, at least for me. I literally could never get it to drop ever, and almost every LFG said they required ghorn. Didn't matter if my DPS was fine, if I didn't have gjorn then so many people wouldn't even consider me because they read "ghorn op" somewhere. Some raids some nights took me an hour to find a group for. I'm so glad there isn't something as overtly busted as ghorn anymore.
My biggest complaint is that I spent so much time grinding the Black Armory so I could get all these cool looking tech weapons that can also drop as Masterwork. I came so close to getting the Ghost shell and ship even. But then they vaulted the Black Armory, and all these weapons I spent time grinding for are now virtually worthless. And I can't get the Ghost shell I truly want anymore.
@@boshwa20Outbreak, Sleeper, and Black Spindle had true secret missions. We didn’t know how to get outbreak, sleeper, and spindle, whereas we knew how to start the quest of Vexcalibar.
Secret missions are dead and it’s not Bungie’s fault. As SOON as someone figures it out they’re gonna go tell streamers, make Reddit posts, tell their friends, announce it in public discords like LFG, and others will in turn do the same, and the entire community will know about the “secret” by the end of the day and have 500 walkthrough videos they can watch on UA-cam if they want. I like secrets and mysteries too so it’s unfortunate but that’s the way it is.
@@heavymusicguy8227 mfs unironically nerfed arc titan movement melee into super slingshot even tho no one asked for this and it literally was an unabusable fun gimmick
For me personally is strike specific loot that hurt so much, before lightfall and even during witchqueen as weapons really felt the same with so little variety in looks and feel especially with the the vaults of the main game and first 3 main expansión. Having sone loot back and more avilable feels a lot better but I really do miss those unique strike weapons and armore pieces.
@@maggie937 That's _nightfall_ specific, not strike specific. Gone are the days of specific weapons dropping from specific strikes, like the Imago Loop from The Undying Mind, or Mau'ual's Maulers from Shield Brothers. Now it's just a bunch of old D1 vendor guns and D2 ex-pinnacle guns. No more ripping your enemy's head off and wearing it as a helmet, no more pulling a Fallen HMG off the wreck of a super-shank, no more looting Tanik's cloak and auto rifle after killing his ass _again._
It's funny. They did it because of a handful of guns. Back in D1, they re-introduced everything but pocket infinity with age of triumph. Pocket infinity was the first weapon to be truly sunset.
The problem, as I understand it, was they completely renovated the game engine in I think shadow keep, so every piece of existing content had to be basically recoded into the new engine, which is a ton of dev time that could be spent making new stuff
@@Kirisutekarl Watch them make us pay for Mars AGAIN! It was in the first game day one, and we had to buy it in D2 just for it to be shackled away from us forever.
I feel like it's important to point out that being critical of these things isn't a bad thing. People that are critical of these things are usually the ones that want it to improve the most. I don't think anyone complaining wants destiny to fail, they want it to be better.
since you mentioned gambit, i think it is criminal that Reckoning was removed. And armor sets that had a perk like the sentry set from reckoning. the AE hit to stompees was too harsh considering that it is the hunter movement exotic.
also how they removed gambit maps. gambit already had the lowest number of options and how we're down to i think 4 maps. When I see the same maps over and over, it just reminds me of how boring and annoying gambit became. I also agree that removing reckoning was a mistake. It was certainly one of the last nails in the gambit coffin for me.
Hearing how people like Gambit feels strange for me cuz I remember fairly well that back then (before Witch Queen's release and the removal of Reckoning) a good number of people expressed general dislike for Gambit, to the point of memeing how frustrating and unfun the mode is
one thing I really agree on is the random exostic world drops. Ive been playing since the d2 beta, and I have every exotic that used to drop randomly, I wanna feel excited seeing an exotic engram again :/
something that ive thought about. the rarity of exotics was really special. my first was red death and it was all i used for my primary, it was special. d2 just hands out exotics
@@isellfreemoney9899 I remember always hoping an exotic was sweet business because I thought it was so cool. When forsaken came out, it was Cerberus, and that was my first exotic too when it launched. I used it as my main primary too.
yeah ever since the exotic release tempo turned into end of campaign/lost sector farm it kinda lost its charm. now for world drops it's "oh look at an exotic engram. oh its one of 90% i'll never use."
Box breathing and trench were nerfed because at the time well/barricade would refill your rounds from reserve giving you infinite rounds during DPS phases. They just never reversed it when they took away infinite ammo.
It still appalls me that even after sunsetting in beyond light, we are still being given those same weapons, again, and again, and again, and if the rumors of reckoning weapons returning that would just be another example of what I mean
VexCalibur is absolutely a secret mission. It was discovered nearly the same way Whisper was and was not announced beforehand but discovered by players.
Man I miss d1 raid armor. Especially the siva armor with the ornaments. Also the rise of iron armor with ornaments. Guess the closest to the siva armor I will ever get is the ep armor from mars.
2:05 Still blows my mind that back in the day I felt like the flash when doing this skate, but seeing it now it's so slow compared to current skates or even eager edge itself
I love that you had a used a clip of a Titan shotgun aping into a wide open space and being mad he got froze and lost the engagement to highlight how strong Stasis was on launch, and not the corner tracking warlock melee had or Shiver strike apes with near 20 meter 1 shot shotguns or shatterdiving any super to death.
You would understand it better if you watched the whole video on Cerridus's channel. He sometimes goes into crazy killing sprees and this was one of those. Just that it ended because a warlock turned toward him and pressed the melee button. This would almost definitely not have happened if the warlock had used a light subclass. But yes you are quite right in saying this is tame compared to how annoying and soul crushing it felt to fight against stasis back when it released.
The more I see these mistakes, the more I feel like it's Evan feeling like he's entitled or angry. I feel like he's lost love for the game and that maybe he should start moving on from Destiny as a whole. There was a point where his content that it was once criticized, but now it's just about anything that he can find to complain about. From talking about the ups and downs of expansions but still saying that they were good, to just outright saying that the one expansion that everyone loves some how makes Destiny worse? The love for the game isn't there anymore.
Having no strikes, specific loot like the Titan gauntlets in D1 that let you look like the Strike BOSS & Screwing up Master Raids is my 2 Sadest things
Trying to control HOW people play this game is what ultimately killed it for me. D1 up to ROI was my most favorite time period in the game. Raids were fun, like REALLY fun because there wasn't this whole "the entire raid team has to have perfectly executed timing" thing going on. There were enough exploits in things that if one got bored enough with raids in a party, he could go and try to solo it. When the mechanics of raids changed enough that that wasn't possible anymore. I always marveled at the folks who went ahead first and made these solo attempts because it pushed me to grind a bit more so I could do it myself. Ultimately, the Destiny community kind of did this to themselves by complaining about the same things they were exploiting. They griped about the Crota raid for being too easy but we all had a hunter with us to solo the abyss, we all had a warlock with us to self res at the bridge. Truth is, that made it fun as hell and we got our loot quick. The raid wasn't actually too short....the others became far too long. This made it possible for at least my group, to speed run both VOG and Crota, get what our raid group needed, then go to the tower to cherpa solo players or small groups the rest of the night. THAT, is how we built all those friendships. It wasn't so difficult that it made you resent all these blueberries we were carrying through the raids.
Always had to remind people who were blaming the wrong people for eververse. It was Bungie not Activision that implemented it and wanted to squeeze everything they could out the player base.
We put blame on Activision because it was convenient. It was a big bad we could point at say “well clearly that’s why bungie has to do it because Activision made them”, But once bungie cut rank and broke off from Activision they had multiple opportunities to end that bullshit but they didn’t. It has become transparently clear to me that the break from acti blizz was not out of some moral stance or creative vision but because they relized they didn’t need acti blizz and could pocket more cash without having to pay acti. Insult to injury they were one of the first major game companies to implement seasonal models and battle passes with non cosmetic content. A deeply cynical part of me thinks bungie realized how lucrative the seasonal content and monetization model and decided to do it on their own.
@@Jokerlkak With a currency that isn't readily available and you can only get a limited amount of every couple of months. You can, in theory, grind out the weekly challenges, which give bright dust, but they give such small amounts to the point of being borderline useless (aside from weekly vendor missions). Not to mention all of the good-looking armor sets are silver gated and never appear for Bright Dust aside from events.
I think part of the problem with the lack of exciting random exotic drops is that exotic weapons now only come from missions and season passes, and the newest exotic armor pieces can only be found for the first time in lost sectors or chosen at the end of a legendary campaign. You can’t get anything new as a world drop. If they just removed the lost sector exclusivity on new armor and added some exotic weapons to the world loot pool instead of to missions it might add back some of that random exotic drop excitement. And instead of nostalgia baiting us to buy the season pass to get the exotic directly or through a seasonal exotic quest, they could just drop returning D1 exotic weapons that were random drops into the world loot pool.
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It has a spot on the map so it’s not the same as the secret quests from d1. The secret for black spindle was only found by someone randomly going to that area while in the strike and that’s how it was found.
Vex, presage, dead messenger and hawkmoon don’t count as secret missions and if anyone says they are, they are stupid and obviously didn’t play when whisper or outbreak were in the game.
Spot on in pretty much everything. One thing, bungie has only said they wont increase pinnacle cap for Deep. They have not said anything regarding S22 and 23 so they might or they might not. Also its unfair to say u dont consider Vexcalibur as a secret quest when the way u found the mission is very very similar to Whisper and the quality is also there
I can forgive the bugs, the weak story telling, and the price on all the dlc, but what I can’t stand is them focusing too much on materials which let’s be honest, ALWAYS short on and never enough for the amount of time you invest into activities, instead of looking for loot I feel like I am constantly looking for materials and grinding 10hr farms to get materials for all my weapons and upgrades, which I can’t even carry much of. All weapons and armor feel like a matter of time till you get them and it’s nice that they are realizing how boring material grinding has become and I wish they get to working on the weapon and armor grinding system once again.
This current event with the free gear from the different tiers has really helped me. I didn't need 10 free masterwork tiraxipos. So I have materials. What do you think about the materweave change? A lot of people seem to really like it.
@@FTCRW Me too, but there's good ways to get most of them although the best is def from GMs. (Also make sure to put on ghost mods for whichever activity you're running) Enhancement cores: blue armor from collections, lvl up 8 and dismantle (turns a prism into 6 cores) Enhancement Prisms: GMs, and high lvl strike activities Ascendant Shards: Again GMs, specially on 2x weeks Legendary Shards: Although ofc Bungie was super quick on patching the glitch but not everything else this Guardian games event is pretty good for cores and shards as you get a ton of event guns that you can dismantle for shards and cores, not to mention you can easily do Platinum cards on Shuro Chi for even more rewards. Also for shards I always just turn the seasonal engrams on the helm to random stuff if there's nothing good to grind for or if I'm done with it, every 4-5 activities I'll probably have 3 engrams there which you can't dismantle for shards too. Glimmer: Rahool or public events
The game is..... actually pretty good rn. PvE wise anyway but. It could be so much better. The small little mistakes have sullied what could be truly amazing.
The free to play is what annoys me the most, recently i convinced a friend to play destiny, and after she downloaded 80 or so gb on her ps4, she was faced with the need of ps plus to play with others, and it's so funny to me cuz sony is the company that bought bungie and their fucking game still needs a subscription.
@@s1n1st3rs0ul wym? You can play warzone with no suscription, you can play fortnite, fall guys, rocket league, pretty much any game that calls itself free to play, destiny is the only one as far as i know that needs ps plus.
Removing Forsaken and Warmind is like spitting at what made you big. Sure they can release new stuff, but what brought them to be allowed to still exist is gone
@@Kostyahellstorm_IronLord ah but who cares about consoles anymore *They're just two full thirds of the game's population let's just fuck them over because we want spaces and missions that no one plays at all*
@@JokerlkakI'd rather the game be 300 gigs than them removing half the content. If people can afford the 100 dollar dlc every year then they can afford an ssd.
One of the biggest mistakes I find is destiny 2 getting rid of one phasing strike and mission bosses literally one of the best feelings killing an enemy quickly
Also, the F2P experience is not the greatest. ‘Cause if you want to do Nightfalls, then you need to wait for a Nightfall with a Strike that you can do (‘Cause there’s a lot of Strikes locked behind DLCs). So that means if you’re unlucky, then it’ll take forever to unlock Armor Charge Mods. Which is a pain honestly.
@Wolf The Iron Lord I use one called the Bosto ostentato that is rapid fire in the crucible it seems to work well. It's personal preference really if you practice. I will never say it's always going to be easy.
The bigger issue with sunsetting for me, as someone who attempted to get into the game... was that all of the content was gone and all the story was ripped out of the game so I had no context for anything.
I think a big issue with secret missions these days is data mining. Nothing will ever be a secret so long as people data mine/leak stuff. It's lame as hell but the unfortunate reality.
Useless excuse as this has always been the case and literally didn't stop them from making zero hour/whisper... It's not like they just now opened the api lmfao
@@theboid While true, I feel like the data mining stuff is more prevalent than it used to be. Regardless I'd want them to bring it back, the weekend Whisper came out was one of the sickest things from early D2. It just sucks that it's likely people will ruin the fun before it's even out
@@ILeem nah bungie can put effort into hiding it if they truly wanted to, they’ve just stated that it’s “too expensive” (not the cost but the dev time). Gotta stop blaming the community for this game’s shortcomings and hold bungie accountable
@@theboid Alright but what's the solution? How do they "keep it secret if they wanted to"? One way or another, the data has to be put into the game, which leaves it vulnerable for datamining. What Leem said about less stuff being secret in general is also true. Bringing up Whisper and other old secret missions doesn't work either. As the game has gotten more popular there's been more content about it made, which includes more datamining. Nothing stays secret for long anymore. I'm not Bungie's best friend or anything, they're not free of blame, but it's silly to pretend like the datamining doesn't hurt the incentive to make the secret missions. It's not a secret if everyone knows about it within a day.
Sunsetting is really the worst thing to happen to the community 😕 worked my butt off soloing comp for that lunas howl (I am NOT good at pvp) just for it to get sunset. God I miss that hand cannon
LOL I remember G-horn back then was way more desired than vex! even though vex had its moments where it was broken as F! G-horn stayed soo Broken for a till it got sunset! no mater what raid no mater what nightfall strikes with modifiers it didn't matter G0horn just walked over everything lol and the best part was Xur sold it at the very beginning of year 0 and that was the only time for like 3 years!
Well, the thing about secrets not being in destiny anymore... we can blame data miners for that. What's the point if making a secret if a data miner is just going to cheat and put all the steps online
@@matt6231 it literally is their fault, Bungie has said so and the greater part of the community has said so. i dont care if you like seeing stuff early due to leaks, but so many others actually like surprises
@@exponenteel773 But it doesn't make any sense. Just because people spoil some parts of your secret missions doesn't mean those secrets aren't worth having... Not everyone is glued to Twitter 24/7 and looks at every single bit of d2 info like their life depends on it.
Still the most hilarious thing to me that the only way to watch these videos is still to play them at 1.25x or 1.5x speed. And they still make sense at the higher speeds.
A lot of these points aren’t mistakes and moreso just needs/changes bungie made that some people didn’t like- like, I really would not consider them needing trench barrel a ‘mistake’
My top 10 blunders: (1) content vaulting, (2) sunsetting and un-sunsetting (3) seasonal model, (4), over-monetization, (5) power level escalator every season, (6) not putting in new PvP maps and gambit maps (after some were taken out), (7) making every new system: transmogrification, weapon crafting, armor 2.0, etc. way too grindy, (8) weekly missions, (9) shitting the bed on most campaign stories, (10) and launching bugged content that is also time-limited e.g. the last mission of season of the lost. All of which is to say why I don't play any more and haven't played since the end of Beyond Light.
One of the biggest Mistakes for me as a PC Player on an 10GB Internetconnection was, to bring in the CROSSPLAY, with no way to switch it On/Off ... That was the Start for me in the Crucible with Lags out of Hell .... Hey whow - me and 2 others on the PS4 ... in the Worst case with an 16.000 Internet and that on Top as WLan Connection - REALLY BUNGO???? Blackscreens while Loading in from 2 minutes and more , Stay in Orbit for Ever when you wanna go to the Tower ... and so on^^ I'm not against CrossPlay in Generell, but give me the choice to switch it of, when i wanna go in Trials for Example
Yeah I definitely miss the leveling up grind and RNG D1 offered especially with how special exotics felt.. its what kept me playing for hours. Even still I grind seasons to try and get max power...its the only reason why I play destiny really so if thats gone I would definitely play it for less
Spot on with sun setting. It is the biggest mistake Bungie made with Destiny 2. If they were going to sunset half of the then current content to make room for content to come then they should have just made a 3rd game I think. Season of Arrivals should have been either the end of D2 or the beginning of D3, I can’t decide there. Not just because of the gear and guns but also the story, campaigns, and quests that made D2 awesome. Much of which has been permanently vaulted. New light players aren’t going to know what the red war is. They’re not going to know who Cayde is unless they play D1. They’re not going to be able to see the events that unfolded from the attack on the original tower until the arrival of the pyramid ships. That’s why I don’t recommend this game to people that are new to the franchise.
Exotic weapon rng would be great for the yearly expansion pool. It was always exciting getting a new one and see what fellow players had gotten themselves. Armor 100% needs to be a targeted farm. Stay rolls make to chaotic and unreliable for it to stay an rng item. I also think it would be great if those legendary ornaments that have special functions with specific exotic armors were a quest instead. It would go a long way towards lore building. And feel special for the class you’re playing.
I also feel another reason secret missions aren't done anymore is because of all the leaks and data mining. Like, how is anything going to be a secret anymore when people figure out what's gonna happen 5 weeks in advance?
The removal of RNG for random drops actually sounds like a net positive, because now I’m not sitting there grinding the same raid over and over endlessly to just hope to finally get that one exotic I’m after. Stuff like that is beyond boring and tedious and exactly why I quit Destiny in the first place. Mind you, this is coming from a person who hates RNG in the first place. Having random chance decide everything for me is annoying as all hell because it always takes me an extended amount of time to finally get that one damn thing I’m looking for. I went Gjalahorn hunting when it was still good back in D1. After countless raids and strikes, after tons of attempts to get this damn weapon I never got it. You bet I was pissed.
I'm just gonna say this: in the climate of today's gaming, and what "free to play" often means 9 times out of 10, Destiny should never have gone FTP. The season pass model as well as Eververse have just allowed Bungie to continually get lazier and lazier with how they present content. And they can sprinkle smaller and smaller amounts of it in over longer intervals and keep people coming back. I'm sticking around until the end of the Light and Dark saga, and if there's no sign Bungie's changing their tune after that...I'm done.
Bungie making the entire game revolve around player engagement is their biggest mistake. Every game decision has the prime directive of getting people to look at Eververse. Forgetting to make D2 fun....
how sunsetting could have worked, only do it to the pinnacles and year 1 weapons(since a good chuck were already rereleased by season of arrivals) then you can reintroduce the year 1 weapons that weren't already rereleased yet slowly while you make a buckle of the newer weapons instead of some new and mostly reissued. Also give the year 1 raids random rolls so they aren't auto sunset when beyond light happened
New Vid Idea - All the weapons and their reskins, including each weapon and it's impact on the sandbox. Like Better Devils when that came out its explosive payload perk was broken because of he damage fall off, its had x amount of reskins many being the 120s that destroyed crucible with their 2 tapping potential. Dunno, I'd want to watch it. Cheers
I'm convinced that Bungie needs to at least make beyond light free to play. Free to play was great when the red war was the introduction but now the intro is almost non existent.
They do not need to remove levelling, just streamline it. Make it less tedious to get to the cap. Instead of having 5 pinnacles all go to the same slot (Primary for example), make it pick a slot that is **NOT** up to the highest powerscore item you have. This way progression is more streamlined, less RNG
Dude I don’t even remember the name of it, but the strike on titan with the big purple eye boss (I forgot the name of the enemy) was amazing. I loved that strike so much.
Remember during Destiny 1 Year 1 when Bungie nerfed all Auto Rifles to the point of not being worth using and how this wasn't fixed until Rise of Iron nearly 2 years later?
I stoped playing right when sun setting idea came up, and i was playing for the first 3 month and loving every single campain, and then sunsetting and the vault killed the buzz for me.
no i dont understand sunsetting to a degree, they took away half the content in the game and the weapons people spent countless hours grinding for, some of the most memorable content in d2 has been sunset
i wont lie i much preferred worldline over the current eager edge method, just doesn't feel as rewarding anymore to use eager edge to skate like it did with worldline back in the day
god i hate sunsetting. My fav weapons were sunset and only go up to 1600, 200 under my current light lvl. i LOVE bite of the fox. absolute fav sniper tbh
The fact they made a ton of stuff free to play in shadowkeep and then removed most of it a year later was the worst wombo combo they’ve done. They baited new players in and then gutted what they were given
I still have my day 1 Gally on my PlayStation account of Destiny 1. Warlock had decent armor with sunbreakers from Xur that second weekend and I just grinded enough coins for him but I had a good exotic (i believe) or better gloves at the time, and Gally was a great take away.
The worst thing Bungie did was making and launching D2. It’s a completely different game and experience. They switched to play to win model and neglected the replay value. Anything fun, power wise or exploits were dealt with swiftly, while bugs and blatantly obvious cheats are still unanswered. Not mentioned the money dedicated players shell out for the same archetype of weapons that have been reskinned and renamed since the first white, green, and blue weapon drops beginning in 2014.
Sunsetting definitely bummed me out. It was just a punch in the nuts for basically no reason. I worked so hard for Black Armory gear only to watch it become completely useless. I also still miss Breachlight, my all time favorite sidearm. I'll keep holding out hope that Bungie will reprise Black Armory weapons at some point in the future, but having to grind them over again will definitely leave a bad taste in my mouth
Breachlight was my favorite too. Til the europa one came out, and now the RoN one. Had an osmosis + demo / rampage roll on it that was my favorite weapon in the game
I kind of take issue with the “ no incentive to do endgame activities” argument. Like, it’s the endgame. As in the last thing to do? What can it provide other than its own existence or may be a cool weapon without necessitating something to come after it? Also, the random loot drops argument, especially exotics. Do we really wanna go back to a time where there was nothing that you could really do to influence the possibility of getting a piece of gear you wanted? I’d much rather a cool, curated mission or quest that guarantees I get what I’m looking for then play the same few activities over and over again hoping I get what I want
originally i liked the idea of legend lost sectors, but the rates they had back in the day and how hard it was to keep farming it. Then they buffed the FUCK out of legendary lost sectors later on in WQ so hard that it was nearly impossible to clear them solo. BUrn damage would be a instant death sentence with your only hope in running solar with healing nades. now grinding exotics you dont have ends up as a chore that i cant be botherd to do.
12:40 -let us note hunter never got a nerf for atleast 2 months, and even then it hardly addressed the busted nature of their neutral game, let alone, THOSE DAMN SHURIKENS. I swear I got atleast a dozen kills throwing them at the ground under my feet, and like wise being killed by them, not to mention how unkillable the titan super was, unless it was a super like goldy or thundercrash
all these mistakes really bring back memories but aside from that secret missions coming back into the game is not gonna happen if they try all it takes is for someone to spoil the fun and leak the information that a certain activity in the game has a secret file or that theres a file in the game that could just lead to day one finding it like unlike the the whisper mission where one reddit post of a guy who did a public event and stumbled apon some mission landed everyone on a search for this mission only for it to be true which was the whisper mission now all it takes is one leak and there is no “secret” mission for us to find
Man I started playing destiny 2 soon after the final secret quest and I have just numbingly going through the game waiting for a new secret mission to participate in that didn’t come
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Why does it say this video was made 53 minutes ago but this comment was 19 hours ago
They need to give us the sunset content back, IN A WAY that doesnt break the current game. I propose an OFFLINE/Solo/LAN party only model for vaulted content.
i used the link to install Raid but never got the epic Drake champion... what am I doing wrong?
@@paka345 The mistake you made was installing raid in the first place lol
I think you missed one big thing: Event Passes. An added on 10 dollar purchase that not only holds more cosmetics that should be earnable but is ontop of the massive eververse focus with each event.
it is WILD that these arent included in the deluxe edition like everything else is, its so incredibly greedy and a shame.
It’s fifteen now since they raised it to 1200 silver, and for ten bucks you get 1100
Not at all. There’s plenty of games that have added similar things to match that game
@@RockRhownot event passes, that’s season passes, different things
@@gandolf535 “other games do this scummy thing so it’s funny” gtfo
Don't forget the 2019 Solstice event. Last event before armor 2.0. In order to get us to play Bungie promised 2.0 sets when the expansion dropped. Then kicked us in the nuts by giving them 44 stats.
I forgot about that.
Never forgot about this , deleted the entire set
They did that? Are you serious!?
@@Kuweiyo oh yes they sure did. Scammed us all. Really felt like a betrayal. The crazy grind for 46 armor.
No doubt sunsetting definitely was mishandled badly. They could have just gone after Pinnacle weapons and no one would care. The fact they gutted the entire game and now new lights don't have any clue what's going on in the story because they also sunset the original campaigns for red war and forsaken. The new lights don't even know who Cayde or Ghaul was.
You know how impactful G-horn was, considering the guy got a Mythoclast and didn't even care about it
Depending on when he got it, it’s a big deal or not a big deal. After the nerfs vex was dead
I mean, a rare drop is still rare, I'd react with something like "bruhh I got ghorn and mythoclast!!" (a lot more excitement obviously lol)
Raiding during the gjallarhorn era was such a chore, at least for me. I literally could never get it to drop ever, and almost every LFG said they required ghorn. Didn't matter if my DPS was fine, if I didn't have gjorn then so many people wouldn't even consider me because they read "ghorn op" somewhere. Some raids some nights took me an hour to find a group for.
I'm so glad there isn't something as overtly busted as ghorn anymore.
My biggest complaint is that I spent so much time grinding the Black Armory so I could get all these cool looking tech weapons that can also drop as Masterwork. I came so close to getting the Ghost shell and ship even.
But then they vaulted the Black Armory, and all these weapons I spent time grinding for are now virtually worthless. And I can't get the Ghost shell I truly want anymore.
Right there with you dude, I miss my Blast Furnace, Tartara Gaze, Tempered Dynamo and No Feelings. Let's not even mention pre nerf Threat Level.
Don’t worry bro I got the ghost and title for u 👍🏻
I miss secret missions. The black spindle, OG Sleeper and outbreak quests were my personal favourite moments in destiny
Didnt we literally just get one in the form of Avalon?
@@boshwa20Outbreak, Sleeper, and Black Spindle had true secret missions. We didn’t know how to get outbreak, sleeper, and spindle, whereas we knew how to start the quest of Vexcalibar.
@@boshwa20 there’s a difference between exotic missions utilising the open world and secret missions bro
Spindle wasn't a good one lol every other one was good tho, artificial difficulty via timer isn't a good way to have a mission😂
Secret missions are dead and it’s not Bungie’s fault. As SOON as someone figures it out they’re gonna go tell streamers, make Reddit posts, tell their friends, announce it in public discords like LFG, and others will in turn do the same, and the entire community will know about the “secret” by the end of the day and have 500 walkthrough videos they can watch on UA-cam if they want.
I like secrets and mysteries too so it’s unfortunate but that’s the way it is.
Bungie still won’t fix half of the new and old bugs.
But they wanna charge us more for sessional content lmao
But they'll patch anything fun in like an hour
Gotta love trains
@@heavymusicguy8227 mfs unironically nerfed arc titan movement melee into super slingshot even tho no one asked for this and it literally was an unabusable fun gimmick
That's what happens when your engine is crumbling
Wish you included the Shadowkeep precision damage nerf. Hand cannons and scouts have been worthless in pve ever since.
Uhhhhh scouts worthless in pve?
Scouts are one of the best weapons for high difficulty content. Lmao
@@ThisIsAHandleOrSomething incorrect sir youre thinking of bows
@fenris Wish ender, enough said.
I just did calus with a explosive payload night, tf u on about
For me personally is strike specific loot that hurt so much, before lightfall and even during witchqueen as weapons really felt the same with so little variety in looks and feel especially with the the vaults of the main game and first 3 main expansión. Having sone loot back and more avilable feels a lot better but I really do miss those unique strike weapons and armore pieces.
Wearing alak hul as a helmet. God i miss it
Every week there is nightfall strike specific loot u can earn. This week was militias birthright, next week is buzzard. How do u not know this? Lol
@@Wafrie01i miss the helm of malok
@@maggie937 That's _nightfall_ specific, not strike specific. Gone are the days of specific weapons dropping from specific strikes, like the Imago Loop from The Undying Mind, or Mau'ual's Maulers from Shield Brothers. Now it's just a bunch of old D1 vendor guns and D2 ex-pinnacle guns. No more ripping your enemy's head off and wearing it as a helmet, no more pulling a Fallen HMG off the wreck of a super-shank, no more looting Tanik's cloak and auto rifle after killing his ass _again._
It's the quantity of weapons that dilute the feeling of uniqueness not how they are acquired.
Sunsetting weapons I can understand. Especially for the broken pinnacles. Sunsetting the content itself? Unforgivable.
It's funny. They did it because of a handful of guns. Back in D1, they re-introduced everything but pocket infinity with age of triumph. Pocket infinity was the first weapon to be truly sunset.
The problem, as I understand it, was they completely renovated the game engine in I think shadow keep, so every piece of existing content had to be basically recoded into the new engine, which is a ton of dev time that could be spent making new stuff
Watch them make us pay for new season dlc with old areas.
@@Kirisutekarl titan here we come
@@Kirisutekarl Watch them make us pay for Mars AGAIN! It was in the first game day one, and we had to buy it in D2 just for it to be shackled away from us forever.
Mistake: killing off the Ahamkara
*please bungie bring the space dragons back i'm literally begging*
Oh hello toad.
Riven probably has family out there somewhere.. right?
@@evanf1997 Man I hope so :,)
There was a corrupted egg somewhere in the queen mara room back in the season before witch queen
I mean they did say last known ahamkara soo. You never know. I think hunting a new one would be a great way to kick off destiny's next saga.
I feel like it's important to point out that being critical of these things isn't a bad thing. People that are critical of these things are usually the ones that want it to improve the most. I don't think anyone complaining wants destiny to fail, they want it to be better.
@Peniley Majorey mate chill. Everybody knows datto slobbers on bungies wang. Hes literally the destiny shill extrodonaire.
@penileymajorey7174 He really living rent free in your head.
@Peniley Majorey Narcisism at full display right here.
@Peniley Majorey I ain't reading all that, I'm happy for you, or sorry that happened
@penileymajorey7174 Who invited this kid 🗣️🗣️🗣️
since you mentioned gambit, i think it is criminal that Reckoning was removed. And armor sets that had a perk like the sentry set from reckoning. the AE hit to stompees was too harsh considering that it is the hunter movement exotic.
also how they removed gambit maps. gambit already had the lowest number of options and how we're down to i think 4 maps. When I see the same maps over and over, it just reminds me of how boring and annoying gambit became. I also agree that removing reckoning was a mistake. It was certainly one of the last nails in the gambit coffin for me.
@@zekeyo37 dude there wasnt even a reason for removing the maps, it was just a dick punch to the dredgen community
Bungie hates people having fun or enjoying their game. I'd bet money theyll bring back the reckoning in a future dlc or in destiny 3
Hearing how people like Gambit feels strange for me cuz I remember fairly well that back then (before Witch Queen's release and the removal of Reckoning) a good number of people expressed general dislike for Gambit, to the point of memeing how frustrating and unfun the mode is
@@granmastersword nobody has ever liked gambit lmao. Since its creation, gambit has been the least played part of destiny
one thing I really agree on is the random exostic world drops. Ive been playing since the d2 beta, and I have every exotic that used to drop randomly, I wanna feel excited seeing an exotic engram again :/
something that ive thought about. the rarity of exotics was really special. my first was red death and it was all i used for my primary, it was special. d2 just hands out exotics
I remember a friend and I would just grind heroic public events and get Exotics to drop all the time. Year one D2 was weird but fun
@@Walter__Clements yeah, that is actually a perfect way to describe year 1 d2. Weird, but fun :)
@@isellfreemoney9899 I remember always hoping an exotic was sweet business because I thought it was so cool. When forsaken came out, it was Cerberus, and that was my first exotic too when it launched. I used it as my main primary too.
yeah ever since the exotic release tempo turned into end of campaign/lost sector farm it kinda lost its charm. now for world drops it's "oh look at an exotic engram. oh its one of 90% i'll never use."
Remember how d1 crucible tried making big team game mode with vehicles and bigger maps at launch and never tried again. Example map first light
The old mystery of the game feels gone
True we need the feeling back
THIS, this, exactly this.
Box breathing and trench were nerfed because at the time well/barricade would refill your rounds from reserve giving you infinite rounds during DPS phases. They just never reversed it when they took away infinite ammo.
It still appalls me that even after sunsetting in beyond light, we are still being given those same weapons, again, and again, and again, and if the rumors of reckoning weapons returning that would just be another example of what I mean
VexCalibur is absolutely a secret mission. It was discovered nearly the same way Whisper was and was not announced beforehand but discovered by players.
100%. The vox and presage missions were by no means secret but the way you started Avalon was definitely more along the lines of zero hour/the whisper
I agree.
Vox and Presage weren't secret missions, but Vexcaliber ABSOLUTELY is a secret mission.
Eververse needs to be 86'd and all cosmetics earnable ingame, because it's proven the money brought in by it IS NOT GOING TOWARD GAME BUILDING.
Man I miss d1 raid armor. Especially the siva armor with the ornaments. Also the rise of iron armor with ornaments. Guess the closest to the siva armor I will ever get is the ep armor from mars.
2:05 Still blows my mind that back in the day I felt like the flash when doing this skate, but seeing it now it's so slow compared to current skates or even eager edge itself
I love that you had a used a clip of a Titan shotgun aping into a wide open space and being mad he got froze and lost the engagement to highlight how strong Stasis was on launch, and not the corner tracking warlock melee had or Shiver strike apes with near 20 meter 1 shot shotguns or shatterdiving any super to death.
You would understand it better if you watched the whole video on Cerridus's channel. He sometimes goes into crazy killing sprees and this was one of those. Just that it ended because a warlock turned toward him and pressed the melee button. This would almost definitely not have happened if the warlock had used a light subclass.
But yes you are quite right in saying this is tame compared to how annoying and soul crushing it felt to fight against stasis back when it released.
or you could watch the full clip to see the context...
not sure about the corner tracking warlock melee but the warlock super did have corner tracking
The more I see these mistakes, the more I feel like it's Evan feeling like he's entitled or angry. I feel like he's lost love for the game and that maybe he should start moving on from Destiny as a whole. There was a point where his content that it was once criticized, but now it's just about anything that he can find to complain about. From talking about the ups and downs of expansions but still saying that they were good, to just outright saying that the one expansion that everyone loves some how makes Destiny worse? The love for the game isn't there anymore.
Having no strikes, specific loot like the Titan gauntlets in D1 that let you look like the Strike BOSS & Screwing up Master Raids is my 2 Sadest things
Trying to control HOW people play this game is what ultimately killed it for me. D1 up to ROI was my most favorite time period in the game. Raids were fun, like REALLY fun because there wasn't this whole "the entire raid team has to have perfectly executed timing" thing going on. There were enough exploits in things that if one got bored enough with raids in a party, he could go and try to solo it. When the mechanics of raids changed enough that that wasn't possible anymore. I always marveled at the folks who went ahead first and made these solo attempts because it pushed me to grind a bit more so I could do it myself.
Ultimately, the Destiny community kind of did this to themselves by complaining about the same things they were exploiting. They griped about the Crota raid for being too easy but we all had a hunter with us to solo the abyss, we all had a warlock with us to self res at the bridge. Truth is, that made it fun as hell and we got our loot quick. The raid wasn't actually too short....the others became far too long. This made it possible for at least my group, to speed run both VOG and Crota, get what our raid group needed, then go to the tower to cherpa solo players or small groups the rest of the night. THAT, is how we built all those friendships. It wasn't so difficult that it made you resent all these blueberries we were carrying through the raids.
I miss the Derelict Leviathan :c
Always had to remind people who were blaming the wrong people for eververse. It was Bungie not Activision that implemented it and wanted to squeeze everything they could out the player base.
They said, coping hard
We put blame on Activision because it was convenient. It was a big bad we could point at say “well clearly that’s why bungie has to do it because Activision made them”, But once bungie cut rank and broke off from Activision they had multiple opportunities to end that bullshit but they didn’t. It has become transparently clear to me that the break from acti blizz was not out of some moral stance or creative vision but because they relized they didn’t need acti blizz and could pocket more cash without having to pay acti. Insult to injury they were one of the first major game companies to implement seasonal models and battle passes with non cosmetic content. A deeply cynical part of me thinks bungie realized how lucrative the seasonal content and monetization model and decided to do it on their own.
You can buy literally all the seasonal ornaments for free lol
@@Jokerlkak With a currency that isn't readily available and you can only get a limited amount of every couple of months. You can, in theory, grind out the weekly challenges, which give bright dust, but they give such small amounts to the point of being borderline useless (aside from weekly vendor missions). Not to mention all of the good-looking armor sets are silver gated and never appear for Bright Dust aside from events.
Raid exotics with quests are 100x better than random drops
I think part of the problem with the lack of exciting random exotic drops is that exotic weapons now only come from missions and season passes, and the newest exotic armor pieces can only be found for the first time in lost sectors or chosen at the end of a legendary campaign. You can’t get anything new as a world drop. If they just removed the lost sector exclusivity on new armor and added some exotic weapons to the world loot pool instead of to missions it might add back some of that random exotic drop excitement. And instead of nostalgia baiting us to buy the season pass to get the exotic directly or through a seasonal exotic quest, they could just drop returning D1 exotic weapons that were random drops into the world loot pool.
I’m convinced that every UA-camr who sponsors raid is an agent for the IRS and raid is a game that makes you pay your taxes
I don’t care who you send, I’m not paying them
This video is just for fun guys, but there is a progressively best events in destiny history to come soon
Why does Vexcalibur not count? Like I’m fairly sure it was revealed in the same way as Whisper was, totally randomly?
It has a spot on the map so it’s not the same as the secret quests from d1. The secret for black spindle was only found by someone randomly going to that area while in the strike and that’s how it was found.
@@ypcomchic it is only on the map when you did it for the first time if i remember correctly and outbreak also was easily started
Vex, presage, dead messenger and hawkmoon don’t count as secret missions and if anyone says they are, they are stupid and obviously didn’t play when whisper or outbreak were in the game.
@@boombop4980 i explicitly meant vexcalibur, yes presage/dead messenger/hawkmoon do not count
Spot on in pretty much everything. One thing, bungie has only said they wont increase pinnacle cap for Deep. They have not said anything regarding S22 and 23 so they might or they might not. Also its unfair to say u dont consider Vexcalibur as a secret quest when the way u found the mission is very very similar to Whisper and the quality is also there
Honestly, a once a dlc increase would be more than fine with me. Even once every second season would be good.
I can forgive the bugs, the weak story telling, and the price on all the dlc, but what I can’t stand is them focusing too much on materials which let’s be honest, ALWAYS short on and never enough for the amount of time you invest into activities, instead of looking for loot I feel like I am constantly looking for materials and grinding 10hr farms to get materials for all my weapons and upgrades, which I can’t even carry much of. All weapons and armor feel like a matter of time till you get them and it’s nice that they are realizing how boring material grinding has become and I wish they get to working on the weapon and armor grinding system once again.
This current event with the free gear from the different tiers has really helped me. I didn't need 10 free masterwork tiraxipos. So I have materials. What do you think about the materweave change? A lot of people seem to really like it.
As someone who started playing after BL's launch I'm always low on mats
@@FTCRW Me too, but there's good ways to get most of them although the best is def from GMs. (Also make sure to put on ghost mods for whichever activity you're running)
Enhancement cores: blue armor from collections, lvl up 8 and dismantle (turns a prism into 6 cores)
Enhancement Prisms: GMs, and high lvl strike activities
Ascendant Shards: Again GMs, specially on 2x weeks
Legendary Shards: Although ofc Bungie was super quick on patching the glitch but not everything else this Guardian games event is pretty good for cores and shards as you get a ton of event guns that you can dismantle for shards and cores, not to mention you can easily do Platinum cards on Shuro Chi for even more rewards.
Also for shards I always just turn the seasonal engrams on the helm to random stuff if there's nothing good to grind for or if I'm done with it, every 4-5 activities I'll probably have 3 engrams there which you can't dismantle for shards too.
Glimmer: Rahool or public events
They should just make the game based on mainly one or two currencies glimmer + something else and should just make infusions free.
This whole "everything was better in d1" schtick is getting old. Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
13:02 May have got it spot on with the reveal of Prismatic, but hopefully it'll be more balanced than the idea of combining subclasses sounds
The game is..... actually pretty good rn. PvE wise anyway but. It could be so much better. The small little mistakes have sullied what could be truly amazing.
The free to play is what annoys me the most, recently i convinced a friend to play destiny, and after she downloaded 80 or so gb on her ps4, she was faced with the need of ps plus to play with others, and it's so funny to me cuz sony is the company that bought bungie and their fucking game still needs a subscription.
well, thats how it is for all their free games, cant play online unless you get ps plus
@@s1n1st3rs0ul wym? You can play warzone with no suscription, you can play fortnite, fall guys, rocket league, pretty much any game that calls itself free to play, destiny is the only one as far as i know that needs ps plus.
Removing Forsaken and Warmind is like spitting at what made you big. Sure they can release new stuff, but what brought them to be allowed to still exist is gone
So you want a game that takes up half of your storage
@@Jokerlkak basically they want the game to be so bloated that not even a 2 TB console couldn't even hold it
@@Kostyahellstorm_IronLord ah but who cares about consoles anymore
*They're just two full thirds of the game's population let's just fuck them over because we want spaces and missions that no one plays at all*
@@JokerlkakI'd rather the game be 300 gigs than them removing half the content. If people can afford the 100 dollar dlc every year then they can afford an ssd.
Acting like if they were bought back you wouldn't play them once and then never touch them
I'm a simple man. I see Evanf upload, I click the video.
Sometimes, I’m not a huge fan of the guy but the topics he covers is top tier D2 content
one of the very very few youtubers i sub to that i will immediately watch if i see an upload
One of the biggest mistakes I find is destiny 2 getting rid of one phasing strike and mission bosses literally one of the best feelings killing an enemy quickly
Also, the F2P experience is not the greatest. ‘Cause if you want to do Nightfalls, then you need to wait for a Nightfall with a Strike that you can do (‘Cause there’s a lot of Strikes locked behind DLCs).
So that means if you’re unlucky, then it’ll take forever to unlock Armor Charge Mods. Which is a pain honestly.
Sunsetting one year old gear was probably the worse, my season of Dawn gear, some of my favorites all useless pointless and worthless.
Can't you use them in crucible? I am just curious because I have a few guns I use for that
@@myles5276 How am I to use a rapid fire shotgun in the crucible?
@Wolf The Iron Lord I use one called the Bosto ostentato that is rapid fire in the crucible it seems to work well. It's personal preference really if you practice. I will never say it's always going to be easy.
@@Saint_Wolf_ have rapid fires ever been good?
@@pesty4592 in PVE yea, they're plenty good.
The bigger issue with sunsetting for me, as someone who attempted to get into the game... was that all of the content was gone and all the story was ripped out of the game so I had no context for anything.
i had a group of 10 friends that played destiny 2 with me a lot. 8 of them left at beyond light bc of the sunsetting and still havent came back
you forgot about the eager edge nerf that happened not long after
I think a big issue with secret missions these days is data mining. Nothing will ever be a secret so long as people data mine/leak stuff. It's lame as hell but the unfortunate reality.
Useless excuse as this has always been the case and literally didn't stop them from making zero hour/whisper... It's not like they just now opened the api lmfao
@@theboid While true, I feel like the data mining stuff is more prevalent than it used to be. Regardless I'd want them to bring it back, the weekend Whisper came out was one of the sickest things from early D2.
It just sucks that it's likely people will ruin the fun before it's even out
@@ILeem nah bungie can put effort into hiding it if they truly wanted to, they’ve just stated that it’s “too expensive” (not the cost but the dev time). Gotta stop blaming the community for this game’s shortcomings and hold bungie accountable
@@theboid Alright but what's the solution? How do they "keep it secret if they wanted to"? One way or another, the data has to be put into the game, which leaves it vulnerable for datamining. What Leem said about less stuff being secret in general is also true. Bringing up Whisper and other old secret missions doesn't work either. As the game has gotten more popular there's been more content about it made, which includes more datamining. Nothing stays secret for long anymore. I'm not Bungie's best friend or anything, they're not free of blame, but it's silly to pretend like the datamining doesn't hurt the incentive to make the secret missions. It's not a secret if everyone knows about it within a day.
I really hate that content was removed. I started playing during Season of Plunder and I really want to play the old campaigns. Especially Forsaken.
Sunsetting is really the worst thing to happen to the community 😕 worked my butt off soloing comp for that lunas howl (I am NOT good at pvp) just for it to get sunset. God I miss that hand cannon
LOL I remember G-horn back then was way more desired than vex! even though vex had its moments where it was broken as F! G-horn stayed soo Broken for a till it got sunset! no mater what raid no mater what nightfall strikes with modifiers it didn't matter G0horn just walked over everything lol and the best part was Xur sold it at the very beginning of year 0 and that was the only time for like 3 years!
Well, the thing about secrets not being in destiny anymore... we can blame data miners for that. What's the point if making a secret if a data miner is just going to cheat and put all the steps online
Oh yeah for sure because as we all know, if a secret is datamined, it's no longer worth putting into the game. Yeah, definitely the dataminers' fault.
@@matt6231 it literally is their fault, Bungie has said so and the greater part of the community has said so. i dont care if you like seeing stuff early due to leaks, but so many others actually like surprises
Yeah of course, because there's someone pointing a gun into your head and forcing you to read all the data they share on the internet
@@exponenteel773 But it doesn't make any sense. Just because people spoil some parts of your secret missions doesn't mean those secrets aren't worth having... Not everyone is glued to Twitter 24/7 and looks at every single bit of d2 info like their life depends on it.
The gally dropping at Crota and xue selling IB was definitely the pinnacle of the game for me
As far as sunsetting goes, i still miss my perfect paradox. I love that gun.
Still the most hilarious thing to me that the only way to watch these videos is still to play them at 1.25x or 1.5x speed. And they still make sense at the higher speeds.
worldline is overshadowed nowadays by just eager edge usage :D
The Witness when his Human Developer Host attempts to rebel against his devious desires:
20:17 that clip was just biblically accurate Gjallerhorn
A lot of these points aren’t mistakes and moreso just needs/changes bungie made that some people didn’t like- like, I really would not consider them needing trench barrel a ‘mistake’
My top 10 blunders: (1) content vaulting, (2) sunsetting and un-sunsetting (3) seasonal model, (4), over-monetization, (5) power level escalator every season, (6) not putting in new PvP maps and gambit maps (after some were taken out), (7) making every new system: transmogrification, weapon crafting, armor 2.0, etc. way too grindy, (8) weekly missions, (9) shitting the bed on most campaign stories, (10) and launching bugged content that is also time-limited e.g. the last mission of season of the lost.
All of which is to say why I don't play any more and haven't played since the end of Beyond Light.
One of the biggest Mistakes for me as a PC Player on an 10GB Internetconnection was, to bring in the CROSSPLAY, with no way to switch it On/Off ...
That was the Start for me in the Crucible with Lags out of Hell .... Hey whow - me and 2 others on the PS4 ... in the Worst case with an 16.000 Internet and that on Top as WLan Connection - REALLY BUNGO???? Blackscreens while Loading in from 2 minutes and more , Stay in Orbit for Ever when you wanna go to the Tower ... and so on^^
I'm not against CrossPlay in Generell, but give me the choice to switch it of, when i wanna go in Trials for Example
Yeah I definitely miss the leveling up grind and RNG D1 offered especially with how special exotics felt.. its what kept me playing for hours. Even still I grind seasons to try and get max power...its the only reason why I play destiny really so if thats gone I would definitely play it for less
I've never seen twin tailed fox hit two targets further apart than stood in each other.
Spot on with sun setting. It is the biggest mistake Bungie made with Destiny 2. If they were going to sunset half of the then current content to make room for content to come then they should have just made a 3rd game I think. Season of Arrivals should have been either the end of D2 or the beginning of D3, I can’t decide there. Not just because of the gear and guns but also the story, campaigns, and quests that made D2 awesome. Much of which has been permanently vaulted. New light players aren’t going to know what the red war is. They’re not going to know who Cayde is unless they play D1. They’re not going to be able to see the events that unfolded from the attack on the original tower until the arrival of the pyramid ships. That’s why I don’t recommend this game to people that are new to the franchise.
Exotic weapon rng would be great for the yearly expansion pool. It was always exciting getting a new one and see what fellow players had gotten themselves. Armor 100% needs to be a targeted farm. Stay rolls make to chaotic and unreliable for it to stay an rng item. I also think it would be great if those legendary ornaments that have special functions with specific exotic armors were a quest instead. It would go a long way towards lore building. And feel special for the class you’re playing.
I have not played since Beyond Light because of sunsetting
I also feel another reason secret missions aren't done anymore is because of all the leaks and data mining. Like, how is anything going to be a secret anymore when people figure out what's gonna happen 5 weeks in advance?
The removal of RNG for random drops actually sounds like a net positive, because now I’m not sitting there grinding the same raid over and over endlessly to just hope to finally get that one exotic I’m after. Stuff like that is beyond boring and tedious and exactly why I quit Destiny in the first place.
Mind you, this is coming from a person who hates RNG in the first place. Having random chance decide everything for me is annoying as all hell because it always takes me an extended amount of time to finally get that one damn thing I’m looking for. I went Gjalahorn hunting when it was still good back in D1. After countless raids and strikes, after tons of attempts to get this damn weapon I never got it. You bet I was pissed.
I'm just gonna say this: in the climate of today's gaming, and what "free to play" often means 9 times out of 10, Destiny should never have gone FTP. The season pass model as well as Eververse have just allowed Bungie to continually get lazier and lazier with how they present content. And they can sprinkle smaller and smaller amounts of it in over longer intervals and keep people coming back.
I'm sticking around until the end of the Light and Dark saga, and if there's no sign Bungie's changing their tune after that...I'm done.
Bungie making the entire game revolve around player engagement is their biggest mistake. Every game decision has the prime directive of getting people to look at Eververse. Forgetting to make D2 fun....
how sunsetting could have worked, only do it to the pinnacles and year 1 weapons(since a good chuck were already rereleased by season of arrivals) then you can reintroduce the year 1 weapons that weren't already rereleased yet slowly while you make a buckle of the newer weapons instead of some new and mostly reissued. Also give the year 1 raids random rolls so they aren't auto sunset when beyond light happened
lol Gjallarhorn was my first exotic I ever received in D1. I had no idea how lucky I was at the time.
Dont worry. We can still just play D1. That still around.
Maybe I should go OoB exploring again. That was some amazing feels on there.
I remember getting my Gjallarhorn in Destiny 1 from a legendary engram. I was the first of my group to get it and i've loved it ever since.
New Vid Idea - All the weapons and their reskins, including each weapon and it's impact on the sandbox. Like Better Devils when that came out its explosive payload perk was broken because of he damage fall off, its had x amount of reskins many being the 120s that destroyed crucible with their 2 tapping potential. Dunno, I'd want to watch it. Cheers
I'm convinced that Bungie needs to at least make beyond light free to play. Free to play was great when the red war was the introduction but now the intro is almost non existent.
They do not need to remove levelling, just streamline it. Make it less tedious to get to the cap. Instead of having 5 pinnacles all go to the same slot (Primary for example), make it pick a slot that is **NOT** up to the highest powerscore item you have. This way progression is more streamlined, less RNG
Dude I don’t even remember the name of it, but the strike on titan with the big purple eye boss (I forgot the name of the enemy) was amazing. I loved that strike so much.
Eye of savathun?
titan is coming back next season, so i assume the strike will come back with it
@@epicgaming11195 mars is kinda back and we didn't get those strikes, so I'm not holding my breath for titan
@@Maxus696 that is true
i hope they bring the planet back properly though, instead of what they did with mars
I really really miss having random drop exotics. I have every exotic in the game and it’s just kinda boring. Nothing to chase for anymore
Remember during Destiny 1 Year 1 when Bungie nerfed all Auto Rifles to the point of not being worth using and how this wasn't fixed until Rise of Iron nearly 2 years later?
everyone seems to forget the point of Age of Triumph.
The fact that the one guy didn't even care that he got Vex, shows how exciting Gally used to be
I stoped playing right when sun setting idea came up, and i was playing for the first 3 month and loving every single campain, and then sunsetting and the vault killed the buzz for me.
no i dont understand sunsetting to a degree, they took away half the content in the game and the weapons people spent countless hours grinding for, some of the most memorable content in d2 has been sunset
i wont lie i much preferred worldline over the current eager edge method, just doesn't feel as rewarding anymore to use eager edge to skate like it did with worldline back in the day
god i hate sunsetting. My fav weapons were sunset and only go up to 1600, 200 under my current light lvl. i LOVE bite of the fox. absolute fav sniper tbh
You missed that they increased the price of season passes despite the content not increasing and the bugs continuing it plague the game.
The fact they made a ton of stuff free to play in shadowkeep and then removed most of it a year later was the worst wombo combo they’ve done. They baited new players in and then gutted what they were given
I started playing destiny back on the 360 and now after quitting its nice reflecting on it
I still have my day 1 Gally on my PlayStation account of Destiny 1. Warlock had decent armor with sunbreakers from Xur that second weekend and I just grinded enough coins for him but I had a good exotic (i believe) or better gloves at the time, and Gally was a great take away.
The worst thing Bungie did was making and launching D2. It’s a completely different game and experience. They switched to play to win model and neglected the replay value. Anything fun, power wise or exploits were dealt with swiftly, while bugs and blatantly obvious cheats are still unanswered. Not mentioned the money dedicated players shell out for the same archetype of weapons that have been reskinned and renamed since the first white, green, and blue weapon drops beginning in 2014.
Sunsetting definitely bummed me out. It was just a punch in the nuts for basically no reason. I worked so hard for Black Armory gear only to watch it become completely useless. I also still miss Breachlight, my all time favorite sidearm. I'll keep holding out hope that Bungie will reprise Black Armory weapons at some point in the future, but having to grind them over again will definitely leave a bad taste in my mouth
Breachlight was my favorite too. Til the europa one came out, and now the RoN one.
Had an osmosis + demo / rampage roll on it that was my favorite weapon in the game
8:44 this man used all of the community luck at once
I kind of take issue with the “ no incentive to do endgame activities” argument. Like, it’s the endgame. As in the last thing to do? What can it provide other than its own existence or may be a cool weapon without necessitating something to come after it?
Also, the random loot drops argument, especially exotics. Do we really wanna go back to a time where there was nothing that you could really do to influence the possibility of getting a piece of gear you wanted? I’d much rather a cool, curated mission or quest that guarantees I get what I’m looking for then play the same few activities over and over again hoping I get what I want
You missed the fucking cannons in the RoN raid. The true final god of pain
originally i liked the idea of legend lost sectors, but the rates they had back in the day and how hard it was to keep farming it.
Then they buffed the FUCK out of legendary lost sectors later on in WQ so hard that it was nearly impossible to clear them solo. BUrn damage would be a instant death sentence with your only hope in running solar with healing nades. now grinding exotics you dont have ends up as a chore that i cant be botherd to do.
12:40 -let us note hunter never got a nerf for atleast 2 months, and even then it hardly addressed the busted nature of their neutral game, let alone, THOSE DAMN SHURIKENS. I swear I got atleast a dozen kills throwing them at the ground under my feet, and like wise being killed by them, not to mention how unkillable the titan super was, unless it was a super like goldy or thundercrash
all these mistakes really bring back memories but aside from that secret missions coming back into the game is not gonna happen if they try all it takes is for someone to spoil the fun and leak the information that a certain activity in the game has a secret file or that theres a file in the game that could just lead to day one finding it like unlike the the whisper mission where one reddit post of a guy who did a public event and stumbled apon some mission landed everyone on a search for this mission only for it to be true which was the whisper mission now all it takes is one leak and there is no “secret” mission for us to find
Man I started playing destiny 2 soon after the final secret quest and I have just numbingly going through the game waiting for a new secret mission to participate in that didn’t come