Argali just came out with a half insert for this 2p that will allow you to run the stove with half the insert. It will also give you a bit of a vestibule-like setup. Pretty sweet.
Agreed. I want both trekking poles with me as well! Thanks for the review! This is exactly what I’ve been looking for! Just ordered one with the insert and pole. My Copper Spur just retired from the backcountry after my AZ deer hunt in January!
The only thing I found I will have to upgrade on this setup is the ground stakes of course. Did an early Sept. Colorado archery hunt with it and we moved every couple days to various terrain. Roots and rocks are definitely not kind to the supplied stakes. Great channel! Recently subscribed, enjoy the content!
Hey, thanks for checking out the video and channel. I hear ya on the stakes. So far so good for then with me, but I can see where they'd fall victim to the rocks! Good luck out there.
@PacificNorthwestBowhunting Still my go-to for most of my hunts. The only time I'll switch it out is when I want to be as ultralight as possible. Then I'll bring the Argali Owyhee 1p.
@@DialedinHunter Yeah, I watched your Owyhee 1p review as well and for what I do here in the PNW I made up my mind to go with the Rincon 2p with a half insert so I can also have the stove option without sacrificing space. Both aren't available at the moment so I signed up for alerts for when they are back in stock. Thank you, good luck this fall!
Nice one! Great looking tent, I like the pyramids for shedding weather in the mountains. Can't help but think the silpoly isn't going to be so noisy rattling around all night like DCF too.
Good video good review. I’ve used multiple tarps, bivys, single pole pyramids and tents for hundreds of nights. There’s no perfect design for every application. Argali does a good job with this one, especially for the price.
I’ve got the absaroka 4p and love it. Saving for an insert now. I’ll have a video on my page soon. I did a preliminary overview but spent a few night in it since then so need to do a follow up.
Good video. Like the looks of this. I’m always Leary of something not freestanding because you may not be able to get all the stakes in. Im curious how this things takes heavy winds.
Thanks! That's a great point and something I hadn't thought of. Honestly though, I've never had a situation where I couldn't get all of the stakes in with any shelter I've used. I'm curious too about the wind. I've had it in 30-40 mph, but nothing above that yet.
@@DialedinHunter Yeah, usually no problem on the stakes. I am looking at doing the OTC Barbary here in NM and I’m thinking about staying out a couple nights at a time. That place is extremely rocky. Maybe so rocky I can’t stay out anyways. But that’s what had me wondering about stakes. I just added up all the weights from the 3 components and I think it comes out to a little over 3 pounds. (Stakes not included) All 3 parts are about 430 bucks. That weight, price for the amount of space is really impressive. Thanks for putting this out there, It probably wouldn’t have been on my radar otherwise.
I love it man. Been my main shelter since it came out. You're definitely not gonna pitch it in a deer bed, but I seem to always find an area that works just fine.
@@DialedinHunterright on. I’m taking it hunting for the first time this fall and am really looking forward. Thanks for being out there showing us how it can be done.
Excellent overview Josh. I am glad to hear your testimony about using it in bad weather in Idaho. It definitely looks roomy and I agree with you most 2p tents ⛺️ are 1p plus gear. I have 325 points in the GoHunt gear shop and I have been looking into a lightweight packable 2p shelter. Whether it be the Seek Outside Silex with stove jack or this new tent ⛺️ from Argali around the same $260 price point. I have not checked recently but last time they both were out of stock. Thanks again Josh for sharing your thoughts and experience with this rather nice tent 🏕
Hey what did you go with? I'm trying to decide between the rincon and the silex for solo mountain hunting in BC. The larger footprint of the Argali has me wondering how it will do trying to sleep in a Mule deer bed.
I haven't personally met a single wall shelter that doesn't get condensation from time to time. I MOSTLY run this with the insert, so that is where most of my experience sits with it. When I have ran it floorless, I definitely wasn't thinking too hard about the condensation.
The one thing I dislike about teepees is the pole in the middle. Has anyone ran two poles, one down each side? I tried it in the back yard but haven't done it hunting yet, it seems like it should work if you position the tent so wind isn't pushing on the weaker side.
I’ve always wondered how you prevent water coming in without the insert if your on a slope and it’s raining. Doesn’t the water just run down the hill along the ground onto your sleeping area?
Eric, that's a great question. I didn't have an issue here with water coming in from the slope in the photo. I feel like it would have to be torrential rain with rivers running down the hill for it to think about getting to that point. Also, these shelters can be cinched pretty tight to the ground. Which is not how I have it set up in the photo. Hope that helps. I also haven't heard anyone that run floorless setups way more than myself talk about water running through the tent. I'm sure you need to be somewhat mindful as well of your location. For instance, don't intentionally set the tent up on a slope where you can see water clearly runs through at certain times of the year.
Agreed. Being in AZ, one of the primary reasons for getting this tent was the insert option so I could keep the critters out and yet have the option of only the tarp if I went elsewhere.. Heading to CO with it next week!
If you're sick and tired of having a pole or trekking pole inside the tent taking up valuable space and interfering with your space usage then you can cut or solder iron burn a hole in the tent .peak. Place a 300 test pound or other test weight kevlar or spectra cord loop outside with knot after the loop and sew the inside legs of the cord to primary tent structural seams. Waterproof seal the loop hole with Shoo Goo or equal. There are at least seven ways to hang the tent in the woods. If you are not aware of them contact me.
Or you can just sew a loop on the outside of the peak and not burn holes through your tent. None of my loop options include taking a soldering iron to the cone.
Not installing the legs of the loop internally exposes the legs to wear externally placed with future potential failure of sewing or other means of adhesion.
I hope that they would put sort like a rope on top of the tent so that you can pull it up and have no poles inside thus gave you more comfortable space..😅
Argali just came out with a half insert for this 2p that will allow you to run the stove with half the insert. It will also give you a bit of a vestibule-like setup. Pretty sweet.
Yup! Pretty pumped to check that out!
That was a good, thorough review. Appreciated. Thinking about the slightly larger Absaroka myself.
Thanks! The Absaroka is also a fantastic choice.
Thanks for the review and advice. Seriously considering this one. Just debating the Rincon and Absaroka.
Choices choices! Thanks man!
Agreed. I want both trekking poles with me as well! Thanks for the review! This is exactly what I’ve been looking for! Just ordered one with the insert and pole. My Copper Spur just retired from the backcountry after my AZ deer hunt in January!
Nice! I've been loving this Rincon. I've spent my fair share of nights in a copper spur, haha
The only thing I found I will have to upgrade on this setup is the ground stakes of course. Did an early Sept. Colorado archery hunt with it and we moved every couple days to various terrain. Roots and rocks are definitely not kind to the supplied stakes. Great channel! Recently subscribed, enjoy the content!
Hey, thanks for checking out the video and channel. I hear ya on the stakes. So far so good for then with me, but I can see where they'd fall victim to the rocks! Good luck out there.
This was by far my favorite upgrade and piece of equipment this year really excited to take this out in September great video Josh
Thanks man and good luck out there in September!
Just watched this, great overview. So, after a year what are your thoughts? Let me know!
@PacificNorthwestBowhunting Still my go-to for most of my hunts. The only time I'll switch it out is when I want to be as ultralight as possible. Then I'll bring the Argali Owyhee 1p.
@@DialedinHunter Yeah, I watched your Owyhee 1p review as well and for what I do here in the PNW I made up my mind to go with the Rincon 2p with a half insert so I can also have the stove option without sacrificing space. Both aren't available at the moment so I signed up for alerts for when they are back in stock. Thank you, good luck this fall!
@PacificNorthwestBowhunting Awesome man! Can't go wrong with them. Thanks and good luck to you too!
Nice one! Great looking tent, I like the pyramids for shedding weather in the mountains. Can't help but think the silpoly isn't going to be so noisy rattling around all night like DCF too.
Thanks! That's a great point about the pyramid style tents, and yes, the silpoly is much quieter than DCF.
Good video good review.
I’ve used multiple tarps, bivys, single pole pyramids and tents for hundreds of nights. There’s no perfect design for every application. Argali does a good job with this one, especially for the price.
Thanks! They really do. It hits on all fronts.
I’ve got the absaroka 4p and love it. Saving for an insert now. I’ll have a video on my page soon. I did a preliminary overview but spent a few night in it since then so need to do a follow up.
Glad to hear it. It's a great shelter. Looking forward to more nights in it!
Good video. Like the looks of this. I’m always Leary of something not freestanding because you may not be able to get all the stakes in. Im curious how this things takes heavy winds.
Thanks! That's a great point and something I hadn't thought of. Honestly though, I've never had a situation where I couldn't get all of the stakes in with any shelter I've used. I'm curious too about the wind. I've had it in 30-40 mph, but nothing above that yet.
@@DialedinHunter
Yeah, usually no problem on the stakes. I am looking at doing the OTC Barbary here in NM and I’m thinking about staying out a couple nights at a time. That place is extremely rocky. Maybe so rocky I can’t stay out anyways. But that’s what had me wondering about stakes.
I just added up all the weights from the 3 components and I think it comes out to a little over 3 pounds. (Stakes not included) All 3 parts are about 430 bucks. That weight, price for the amount of space is really impressive.
Thanks for putting this out there, It probably wouldn’t have been on my radar otherwise.
@@drested1793 Oh, man. Good luck on that hunt. Yeah, impressive for sure. Great space to weight ratio.
How are you liking the Argali 2P? Any issues finding places to pitch it in the mountains?
I love it man. Been my main shelter since it came out. You're definitely not gonna pitch it in a deer bed, but I seem to always find an area that works just fine.
@@DialedinHunterright on. I’m taking it hunting for the first time this fall and am really looking forward. Thanks for being out there showing us how it can be done.
Excellent overview Josh. I am glad to hear your testimony about using it in bad weather in Idaho. It definitely looks roomy and I agree with you most 2p tents ⛺️ are 1p plus gear.
I have 325 points in the GoHunt gear shop and I have been looking into a lightweight packable 2p shelter. Whether it be the Seek Outside Silex with stove jack or this new tent ⛺️ from Argali around the same $260 price point. I have not checked recently but last time they both were out of stock.
Thanks again Josh for sharing your thoughts and experience with this rather nice tent 🏕
Thanks dude! Good luck out there!
Hey what did you go with? I'm trying to decide between the rincon and the silex for solo mountain hunting in BC. The larger footprint of the Argali has me wondering how it will do trying to sleep in a Mule deer bed.
Great review man
Thanks! Love this tent!
Awesome Thanks for posting.Happy hunting good luck this year 🦌🦌🤝
Thanks Armando! 👊🏼
How does the Rincon do with condensation when you’re running it without the insert?
I haven't personally met a single wall shelter that doesn't get condensation from time to time. I MOSTLY run this with the insert, so that is where most of my experience sits with it. When I have ran it floorless, I definitely wasn't thinking too hard about the condensation.
Good to know. Thanks for the content and the feedback man
@@americansafarico You bet!
Can you run the stove with it set up like this?
You can, but not with the insert. That is a fire hazard. Argali doesn't even have a hole cut in the insert for the stove pipe because of this.
They do offer a half insert. I believe you can run the stove in the floorless portion with that setup.
Awesome well that’s good to know that the offer half ones. I was on the website and don’t see the half inserts but I could call.
@@ridgelinehunting argalioutdoors.com/collections/tents/products/absaroka-4p-half-insert
@@ridgelinehunting This is for the 4p, but they have them for the 2p as well.
The one thing I dislike about teepees is the pole in the middle. Has anyone ran two poles, one down each side? I tried it in the back yard but haven't done it hunting yet, it seems like it should work if you position the tent so wind isn't pushing on the weaker side.
I've heard of folks doing this, but I haven't tried it myself.
Hang the middle from a tree branch with a rope. So no pole in middle
I’ve always wondered how you prevent water coming in without the insert if your on a slope and it’s raining. Doesn’t the water just run down the hill along the ground onto your sleeping area?
Eric, that's a great question. I didn't have an issue here with water coming in from the slope in the photo. I feel like it would have to be torrential rain with rivers running down the hill for it to think about getting to that point. Also, these shelters can be cinched pretty tight to the ground. Which is not how I have it set up in the photo. Hope that helps. I also haven't heard anyone that run floorless setups way more than myself talk about water running through the tent. I'm sure you need to be somewhat mindful as well of your location. For instance, don't intentionally set the tent up on a slope where you can see water clearly runs through at certain times of the year.
Would you run it without the insert during late season AZ archery?
That's the only time I'd run it without the insert in AZ.
Agreed. Being in AZ, one of the primary reasons for getting this tent was the insert option so I could keep the critters out and yet have the option of only the tarp if I went elsewhere.. Heading to CO with it next week!
Man I’m digging this tent. I’m a hammock guy but totally thinking this is the way I would go if I wasn’t hunting in trees.
It's a slick set up! I've never done the hammock thing, but have friends that do. Super lightweight!
Looks like a great tent.
Yeah, I'm stoked on it!
I’m 6’9” do you think. I’d have room in the floorless mode?
You could do it, but it might not be comfortable. Absaroka 4p would offer more room.
Insert is mandatory but it needs a floor square tar away for stove
They actually sell a half insert now. With that you can run a stove in the floorless portion. Pretty neat.
How’s the tent holding up
Still going strong!
If you're sick and tired of having a pole or trekking pole inside the tent taking up valuable space and interfering with your space usage then you can cut or solder iron burn a hole in the tent .peak. Place a 300 test pound or other test weight kevlar or spectra cord loop outside with knot after the loop and sew the inside legs of the cord to primary tent structural seams. Waterproof seal the loop hole with Shoo Goo or equal. There are at least seven ways to hang the tent in the woods. If you are not aware of them contact me.
Thanks for the tips!
Or you can just sew a loop on the outside of the peak and not burn holes through your tent. None of my loop options include taking a soldering iron to the cone.
Not installing the legs of the loop internally exposes the legs to wear externally placed with future potential failure of sewing or other means of adhesion.
I hope that they would put sort like a rope on top of the tent so that you can pull it up and have no poles inside thus gave you more comfortable space..😅
Haha! Just totally sprawl out, haha
Sweet
Might have to go with this instead of seek outside…..
It's a good'n!
How much does that go for ?
Tent itself is $235. $50 for the pole, but you can use a trekking pole if you'd like. If you wanted the insert it's another $145.