While tesla has a lot of advantages, it also has not so obvious disadvantages. Getting service on it requires day trips for some in the US and they could do way better with disabling things with who they deem bad actors and don’t even dare try fixing something on your own
My answer is the same as yours. I am in the market for an electric car and I've test driven both cars. I loved the Mach-E, it felt very safe and solid. I do wish the regen braking was a little more aggressive as you said, but overall I loved that car. Then I test drove the Model Y and I had so much fun on that short little test drive. The seats were definitely more comfortable than the Mach-E, the regen braking felt nice and confident, the sound system was unbelievable, and the acceleration? Best I've ever felt. Between the two the deciding factor is the charging network. Ford has the electrify America chargers but many youtubers have posted showing how bad and unreliable they actually are. You don't want to be hundreds of miles from home stuck at a fast charger where none of the stalls work. With Tesla, you can be confident knowing when you get there, they will work. I'm saving up for my Red Model Y, I plan on making the purchase in Sept of 2022 after the new version of it comes out. Thanks for the videos Gjeebs, enjoying the content!
Your going to love your 2nd generation of Model Y with the structural front and rear castings, structural battery pack and state of the art 4680 battery cells. We may be trading up in a few years from our 2021 Model Y.
@Koby Adventures Yes according to Elon. My guess is that Tesla will kick off Giga TX production with the Performance Model Y and will add an exclusive color option.
I test drove the Mach-E twice And almost bought it but still went and test drove a model Y. Immediately ordered a model Y, was just so much better. The mach-e is fun but still feels like you're driving a Ford car. The Tesla was an experience in itself and shows that a good company can still change the way we think of driving and how we experience it.
I went the Mach-E route purely based on looks :P. I’m not a fan of the egg/catfish look of Tesla vehicles and love the front grill of the Mach-E. I am concerned about the processor used in the Mach-E since I know the Model Y isn’t skimping in that department. Also, there are soooo many Teslas around (for good reason) and I’m just sick of looking at them :P Both cars are great and I can’t wait to finally ditch my ICE vehicle.
I'm addicted to your channel brother, thank you for all that you do. Just got my model Y in red and have already purchased about $1,500 in accessories! I'm hooked!
I've watched my fair share of Mach-E/Tesla video comparisons in the last few months, and this was, by far, the most objective one I've seen. Additionally, I've not commented on the other videos. Thank you for sharing your experience from an objective point of view.
I am a M3P owner and test drove the Mach-e (regular and GT version). It is a nice car that many folks would enjoy. I prefer the minimalist Tesla interior, but many folks would have the opposite opinion. One thing I noticed immediately during the test drives that you did not mention, but is obvious in your video, is the massive hood. The M3 and Y have a front end that slopes down radically, making the front hood disappear from the driver's seat. The forward visibility in the Tesla is fantastic, whereas I felt like I had blinders on when driving the Mach-e. Anyone coming from a gas car with the big hood won't even notice, it is only because I come from such a radically shaped vehicle. Tesla does not offer entry level vehicles and price of the lower-tier Mach-e is now significantly lower than the Model Y in the 1-year+ since you made your video. I totally agree with your assessment regarding the charging network, but the dealership network is Ford's huge advantage over Tesla as it make service a snap. I decided to order a Model Y after my Mach-e test drive, in part for the heat pump (I live in the Northeast and the range of my M3P is halved in the cold), in part because I liked everything a bit more in the Tesla compared to the Ford and in part because we are lucky to have a Tesla service center in my city. That said, I have to admit that the "I liked everything a bit more in the Tesla" most likely reflects my familiarity with the product. I suspect that many ICE drivers would have the same familiarity pull with the Ford rather than the Tesla. Nice review, thank you.
Your channel is going to explode. Your videography/editing improves by the goddamn day and your humor is on point. You’re crushing it, and I’m glad you’re not traveling all over the place as a device rep, brutal grind. Keep doing what you love.
@@Gjeebs Gjeebs, you've always reviewed cars with a verve, man. I haven't even finished this vid review, but my first car was a '65 Mustang. This all-electric Mustang seems taut, built and strong. Can't wait ta finish this. NBA playoffs are pulling at me, though!
@@Gjeebs I agree. Great job with the direct comparisons. Love these kind of reviews. My only suggestion is when you analyze a particular aspect on the car, have the camera guy shoot a separate video in closer detail. That way when you start talking about the frunk or the Ford touchscreen for example, you can cut to the detail clip as you are still talking.
Excellent comprehensive and fair review - really appreciate your efforts. I just bought a Tesla Model 3LR - my first EV and I love it. Am now interested in what is going on in the rest of the EV universe and your video is a great resource. Subscribed! Good luck and happy new year.
Tom Moloughney did constant 70mph tests using 100% of the batteries. The 2020 Model Y got 275.4 miles and the Mach-E got 285 miles. So, very close on range.
I have the model Y and enjoy your videos. I like the Mach E small screen above the steering wheel. With the Tesla I’ve got too say I miss having individual control of each air vent. These are just personal preference things and very minor. Another good video Gjeebs!
I drove both cars on extended test drives. I researched both. I was logging in to order the Tesla when they jacked the price up 2 grand. That made like 8 grand increase since January 21. It is not like they used better materials or anything. So, the Ford interior was more roomy and they did not jack up the price so I ordered the Ford. The funny thing is the Ford had been more expensive than the Model Y before the latest price increase.
The Mach E is built better tho and now there is the Mach E GT. I didn't the like structural integrity of the Model Y because there were rattles and squeaks and if does that now, what will be like 3 or 4 years from now?
@@rjs1674 My husband is getting the ford lightening electric truck whenever they have more to buy, and I’m getting Mach E, but I don’t know about the GT...umm
Glad you touched on the re-gen. I’ve gotten so used to one peddle driving that’s it’s frustrating to drive anything else, so I would opt for an aggressive re-gen. Regardless, Ford deserves a lot of credit here. It’s the second viable option I’ve seen.
Went with a Model Y 7 seater - don't use the extra seats all the time but able to fit kids/friends for short trips so we didn't have to take 2 cars and they fold flat so not sacrificing any space when not using them. Extra storage with the frunk/sub trunk also comes in handy. Definitely agree with the added benefits of the tesla super charging network which is in addition to being able to charge wherever the Mach-E can charge at (electrify america, blink, evgo, etc).
I am looking to buy my first EV. This week I test drove the Mach-e and the Model Y. I'm like Gjeebs where I really think Ford has done a good job but my first big comparison was the front cabin. I'm 6'4" and 290#; my drive buddy is 5'7" and pretty hefty. I felt like two sardines in the Mach-e. As soon as I sat in the Model Y I felt like the car is much wider and comfortable. Now granted, I drove them two days apart and my muscle memory may have betrayed me but the Tesla seems like a larger interior. I currently have a Ford Edge SUV and although I don't haul a lot of stuff, I feel like the cargo area of the Tesla is great whereas the Mach-e seems quite small. Once again, like you... I think the Tesla Super Charging infrastructure is the icing on the cake that is leading me to the Model Y.
Ha! We test drove the Mach-e last week and loved our first ever EV drive. However due to the ordering process, resell value, charging, software, keys and looks we ordered the Model Y yesterday. Still haven't test drove the Y and was a little worried about this exact thing.
From all the technology, the acceleration, over the air updates, FSD, sentry mode, Easter eggs, ease of buying, charging network, and the cool factor, no manufacturer can offer the unique experience that is buying a Tesla.
They’ll just be another car company shortly as they still offer cars that have below average quality, and everyone will be offering many electric car options. The visibility in Model Y is very poor. Usability and having to do everything through a touch screen is also very poor user experience.
@@adan7182 I’m sorry this has been your experience with Tesla vehicles. I can say that I’ve had no problems with my model 3, enjoy the touch screen features, and overall I’m extremely happy with my purchase. So happy in fact, I take delivery of another model 3 next month, and the Cybertruck next year. Best regards
@@adan7182 Sandy Munro, 2021 "As good as Anything from Germany". Elon Musk, 2021 (model Y Berlin/ Texas) "We're aiming for microns, not millimetres" (castings will do that). "Everyone will be offering electric options"..... While "chewing their own leg off" trying to transition sales from ICE and service from static dealerships (watch for mergers) Then they'll be competing with each other before getting close to Tesla. Visibility?..... Rear view on the big screen? I'll bet the ford isn't "stellar"? Having to do "everything" by pressing one button on the wheel and saying (for instance) " I'm cold" (heating comes on) or 170+ other commands? Poor experience??? Really? Of course, if it's in Autopilot the car looks after you while you look away (momentarily!) So safer! Did I miss anything?
I've had the Mach-e for 4 months now and I much prefer over my model S. I got the 300 RWD Range mi version and I consistently get over 360 mi on charge where my Tesla p100d 315 mile range rarely get 260 miles on a charge. That why is makes me want to get rid of it. I drive very safely and I don't floor it. I try to maintain safe levels for the battery yeah I have never gotten what is advertised. The Mach-e is slightly slower but it's still a very fast car compared to most other vehicles. The funny thing is that I live in Los Angeles, the number one city of Tesla sales and the charging network is pitiful here. My closest supercharger has been broken for 9 months at least but the charging Network for the Mach e in California is far better. There are a lot less people who have the same network so I'm not competing for chargers as well. Would Tesla on a road trip, it is sometimes a nightmare to charge Midway to San Francisco. I think this review was pretty comprehensive but I am happy that I'm probably going to get away from Tesla for a while.
I thought the Y pulled away quite a distance for how short the rolling run was .. and was gaining more but he let off. Wish you kept it going another few seconds. Great video as usual and like you I would take Tesla Y over the Mach e.
The Mach E GT is the one you want. It's much faster than the Mach E but the thing about the model Y is, it has a lot of rattles and squeaks and if it does that when it's new, what will it be like 4 years from now?
Keep the videos coming! Looking great! Btw, you can get specific apps to control your Tesla app with voice. So if you have full hands and a smartwatch or phone in hearing distance, just tell it to open the trunk and you don't have to set anything down. :) Maybe you can try some of these out and review them?
A Norwegian conciliation council has ordered Tesla to pay thousands of dollars each to Model S owners after it found that a software update led to longer charging times, the Norwegian newspaper Nettavisen reported Monday. Drivers eligible for compensation under the ruling will receive 136,000 kroner ($16,000) each.
Great! Regulation should work for the people. Every car company will try to get away with whatever they can. We need government regulators to keep us safe.
Not really. It is a 0 level court - FUD. Tesla was not present, so the judge did not research the merits but had to assign the maximum penalty automatically. I'm sure in the 1 level court Tesla layers will arrive and the judge will judge. And then, there are appellation courts. So, nothing actually was decided yet.
We love the Premium AWD Mach-E we just got. We prefer the styling both inside and out. We like the more traditional controls and I think that will get a lot of new people into electric cars. The charging infrastructure will improve greatly in the near future. The $7,500 tax credit was also a factor. The Mach-E does have an optional white interior, we test drove one, though opted for the black.
Got carb. grey and would have gotten the light grey interior if I could have found one. It's all a matter of preference. Driving the Tesla, I found it loud and felt the road. It's a great live of vehicles, and I understand why people like them. Personally, I think the MME is soooo much better looking, nicer interior. But you can't go wrong either way.
Test drove the Model Y and 3. The next day I test drove the Mach-E. The following day I ordered one. Why? Screen behind wheel, CarPlay, it has a better ride than Y, federal tax rebate, volume knob (intuitive), hands-free hatch, massive dealer network, and styling. I’ll give the charging network to Tesla, but that edge is temporary, as EV charging is expanding by the day. Dislikes with the Y: there was an annoying rattle. Checking the cargo areas (upper and lower), I couldn’t find the source. The ride was harsher. The interior is Spartan to a fault...just too antiseptic for my taste. While they were once novel, the outside styling now looks vanilla, as Teslas are now ubiquitous on the road. Having just the center screen is not good for critical information, since it pulls your eyes from the road. I’ve heard of significant wait times for Tesla service in the Boston area, which gives Ford a massive edge, due to their network of dealerships. My decision wasn’t even close, and this comes from someone who initially snickered at Ford’s initial reveal of the Mach-E and always lusted for a Tesla.
Nice summary. I am getting really sick and tired of all these “reviewers” getting into a Tesla and pronouncing that “this is the future”! It is NOT - it’s just Tesla’s view. The future is not barren, boring spartan interiors just because that’s what Tesla does (which Is really because it is the low cost option) , every “car” maker should be able to have there own design direction and not be lambasted for it because it isn’t like a Tesla. Anyway, as a consumer I want more choice, variety, suppliers etc in any market, not one monopoly player that dictates what I want. It’d be a pretty awful and boring streetscape if everyone was driving the same car.
I don't use it daily but I do use the frunk on road trips, or when I want valuable items secured. Yes, Tesla could offer more colors, etc. I suspect once they can produce enough cars to outstrip demand, they will.
Great Video! Just at the end though where you show the Mustang Mach-E - Just misleading information where the label shows stating price of $42,895 0-60 in 3.5 secs and range of 305 miles. People might think they can get a 0-60 time for $42,895 and 305 miles - not the case. Also, I noticed more body roll in the Mach-E compared to my Tesla Performance Model Y. The Mach-E GT Performance Edition Extended Range Battery, a $5,000 added on option which has a Target Range: 235 miles and a Usable Battery Capacity: 88 kWh 0-60 in 3.5 seconds which starts at $64,900 before choosing interior/exterior colors or packages. Now if you want the 305 mile range with a 0-60 time of 6.1 secs for the rear-wheel drive only - that would be the California Route 1 edition which starts at $50,400 before any ext/inter color ops or packages. 😉
I noticed that as well. My intuition kicked in and was going to verify but you saved me the time...thanks. This is the first review by GJeebs I have seen. Very credible and reviewers his quality are few in my opinion.
Finally an honest review! I'd pick the Mach-E! Test drove both and fell in love with the Mach-E. Just felt more refined, solid and better quality. Model Y needs a couple more years to get the quality issues sorted out. @25:00 He says Tesla will be in trouble if Ford figures out the charging network. Ford has Plug & Charge which I've used many times. Just pull up to a 350kW fast charger, plug in and it immediately charges. It charges my Ford account afterwards. Super easy to use and identical to the Tesla Supercharger network. This is a brand new car and charging network and it'll have bugs just like Tesla did in the beginning but its getting better everyday. Really happy to see there's a direct competitor to Tesla now.
Three and four mock E’s are being sold in California. I guess a lot of people want some thing that looks different because all you see in California is Teslas
Lots of Teslas in California. I just got back from a road trip. Huge supercharger stations very busy all the time. Luckily there was always a few open. But its busy for sure. They have been adding stalls and will continue to need to do so.
This was a well thought out video, great job. I can tell you first hand i went to a large Ford dealer in San Diego a few weeks ago to look at the Mach E, they had like 10 of them on the lot. Apparently they were all special order, they wouldn’t even open one of them for me. Now i get production is down, Covid, whatever, but if you can’t test drive one or they make it difficult, why would you want to buy one? Ford needs to get their shit together and understand the EV market and buyer, the mind set, and right now they’re about as far as they can get from it. Their dealer network is a bunch of old guys who are used to the good old days, when beating you up on your trade and then “Making a deal” on a new car is the program. Ordering my 2 Tesla’s was the easiest and best car experience I’ve ever had, and enjoyable, including the easiest test drive EVER. They don’t need to SELL Teslas, they sell themselves. Ford dealers and other OE’s need a major course correction, or they’re literally going to loose a massive amount of their market because all their customers are an older generation that is fading. This mind set is reflected in the design of the Mach E. The whole idea that they could use the “Mustang” brand to build their 1st EV is part of the irony, stop milking the brand to make something new and technologically advanced, just DESIGN & BUILD something NEW!!! How many versions of the Mustang are they going to Milk? I’m sorry, but if your a traditional Mustang buyer, the Mach E is ugly as sin. If your not a Mustang buyer in the past, because you don’t like or need one, why would you buy an EV with the same name? All Ford did was take the Tesla and try to make a couple things better (they thought) and slap the Mustang label on it. They forgot all the stuff that matters: The Tech, charging network, range, power, and lastly, they need to spend about a billion dollars on a cool marketing campaign that understands who the EV buyer really is, and what they want, not what FORD wants to sell.
I built a Mach E GT. And the dealership tacked on a 2k mark up so I cancelled on the spot, now I’m ordering a Model Y performance I will never pay a penny markup for no car great content.
I recently took my test drive of a Model Y. It was terrific, most enjoyable, smiling all the time. That was my first EV experience. I have not been able to arrange a test drive of the Mach e as local dealer informs me no vehicles are available to drive. Your review has been most informative and has I think sealed my decision to purchase the Tesla! I should mention that even with the Ford A plan discount ( I am a retiree) and the federal tax savings with the Ford, I believe the Tesla would be a smarter purchase. As you point out the charging infrastructure that Tesla has is a very strong reason to buy if you plan to drive to the ends of your battery range.
Amazing how fast Ford is catching up on the charging network and soon to pass Tesla. This is because Ford is integrating directly to the chargers in the app like Tesla but uses third-party charging stations like electrify America. Also it was announced earlier that Tesla supercharger’s Will soon open up to all EV’s.
Good to know. Even better if Ford actually built a network. There would be very few electric EV in the world had Tesla not had not invested in an oven ready charging network and continued to expand it rapidly.
You are delusional if you think Ford is catching up on the charging network when they don’t even have their own dedicated network but rely on faulty, unreliable, frustrating and range anxiety inducing 3rd party chargers - catching up to Tesla?? 💀
Quick suggestion: this video really showed the cars in all its glory. However, it would have been nice if the skies banding / over exposure could have been handled in post, if this was shot in RAW. Something to think about for next video. But yes, please keep dropping 2K and 4K videos, its great!
Don’t know if anyone answered but it’s unbridled with a long i sound. Nice video. You do good work. Watched several vids to prepare us for the Y performance.
We ordered a Model Y after test-driving the Mach-E and the ID.4. The Mach-E we test drove at the dealer had build issues -- the mirrors couldn't be adjusted (they shut closed if you tried) and the drive mode couldn't be changed. That was a huge turn off for us. I mean, the test drive vehicle should be in really good shape! The ID,4 we drove also had issues. Anyway, Ford has more recalls than any manufacturer. We decided that even if there were some panel gap issues (our Prius has them, so not that worried), the driving experience was better with the Tesla we test drove and obviously the charging network is superior. Still waiting for our Y (but then, our wait would be even longer if we'd ordered a Mach-E).
LOL. You've got to drive some defective cars (you must be incredibly unlucky) and then made your conclusion based on that? There is a Mach-E forum, defects are very rare, not like Tesla that each car has multiple defects and you pay even before test driving and then wait and hope they will fix all the defects.😂
@@ElementaryWatson-oxo have you ever bought a car and owned one? Do you know the difference between cosmetic issues and mechanical issues? Who would pay for a car before taking delivery? On all of the cars we test drove, we had to put down a deposit of $100 if we wanted to buy one, but only if we wanted to do that. We did not have to pay anything to test drive. And when we decided on the Tesla, we didn't have to pay for it in advance. The day of delivery, we thoroughly inspected the car (no defects, btw), then sat in the car and signed the paperwork and transferred the money using our phone. If we'd bought a Ford, we would have done all of that in the dealer's financing office instead of inside the car. Otherwise the process would have been very much the same. I assume you're new to vehicle ownership. We've had many, many vehicles from different manufacturers over decades of driving. We aren't naive buyers and we understand the difference between cosmetic defects that don't affect the drivability of a car and mechanical ones. You want to see a disaster waiting to happen? Check out Sandy Munro's teardown of the hose and clamp nightmare under the Mach-E's hood. When you think about reliability, the panel gaps and paint defects don't matter. It's much more important to know that there is a reduced chance that you'll be stranded on the road from a mechanical problem. In survey after survey, Tesla owners are happy with their cars and say they'd buy them again, because most people don't actually care about cosmetic issues, all of which can be solved (and also don't impact drivability). They want genuine reliability. They want to know that they can get from point A to point B safely and efficiently.
@@ElementaryWatson-oxo Don't worry. When you're old enough to buy a car you will have guidance from your parents or another trusted adult. Remember to take driver's ed seriously. The skills you will learn in that class could save your life or the lives of those around you. Driving is serious business. We are in charge of massive machines when we get behind the wheel. Good luck!
Great Video I have the 2022 premium mach E and it does let you know where all the charging stations are, I can also use the Tesla charging stations because it has a universal charging port.
@@Gjeebs yes I have and I haven’t had any issues, I used the Tesla charging station at a mall. They now have the Blue Oval Charge Network. I’m not sure if they had this with the first series of these vehicles.
Went with Mach E. Couldn't justify paying $12k more for the Model Y. Biggest advantage of the Tesla is really supercharger, and I wouldn't use that. Not a big car tripper.
A quick way to compare range is to look at watts per mile. Both cars record that info. Model Y around 270 watts. Mustang around 310. (Your milage may vary). Model Y 75 kWh. Mustang 88 kWh usable.
i would easily go for the mach e mainly because of how hard tesla makes it for you to even get tires for their cars. Ford will back their products and theyre a bigger company (they are everywhere too). I personally like the looks of mach e vs Y. The right to repair plays a part in EVs and tesla has established a reputation like apple.
@@Gjeebs i saw a video of this guy who repairs his own Tesla’s because the company refuses to sell him any parts and I remember him trying to get tires, maybe they have since back tracked? I’ll try to find and link his channel in but he ended up reverse engineering during his repairs
The fronk is not the least used storage space but rather the most forgotten space to make use of. It takes time to get use to having that space but once you do you use it regularly. I keep my exercise equipment in my front and use it daily.
Thanks for this informative video on buying a Ford Mach E which I’m considering buying later this year. This was a treasure of information on the purchasing process of this vehicle.
Well steps involved to start Ford vs Tesla. Ford: 1. Keys in pocket- get in car 2. Apply break, press start button and drive Tesla: 1. Card in pocket get in the car. 2. Take out the card and place it exactly near the cup holder for car to detect the card then apply breaks and drive. According to me it really depends what experience you want but as an industrial engineer I think the steps involved in each process are same but chances of error with Tesla are more. I’m someone who forgets keys in car so the key in pocket feature is actually a pulse. Again this is not a deal breaker but trying to state the facts.
You're noticing the range dropping slower in the Mach-E because the battery is much bigger, tires are skinny, and the wheels are smaller. Your tesla has those big tires and induction wheels that reduce range quite a bit. Either way, Ford did a great job with this car. Plus with that tax credit it's just so much cheaper and I think it looks better on the exterior. After sitting in both, it would be really really tough to pick. I'd lean Model Y for overall being better, but Mach E for looks and cheaper price due to tax credit.
Great video! Actually really like the way the Mach-E looks. That orange on the GT Mach-E was so nice! Thanks for your videos! I’m eager to see what the F150 Lightning will be like. I haven’t switched to EV yet. I am looking forward to the Cybertruck too. Thanks Man!
We will be taking delivery of our Model Y next week. It's our third electric car (Model 3 and BMW i3). At this time and after watching this review I can't think of one reason for me to say "I wish I ordered the Ford M2, not the Tesla Mod Y). The Mod Y seems to handily beat the M2 when it comes to: - range - acceleration - cabin space - storage space - user interface - autonomy - quality of materials - design and style (that's subjective, of course) In fact, if it was 3 years ago when we took delivery of our Mod 3 and the only EV available to purchase at the time was the M2 (the Mod 3 or Tesla did not exist) would I buy a M2? Not likely. And this coming from someone who happily owned a traditional Ford Mustang up until a few years ago.
You’re really trying not to be bias to Tesla…but you are. Ford has been making cars for 118 years, they’ll figure it out. VW has been making cars for 84 years and they’re already making cars superior to Tesla. I’d choose the iD4 then the Mach E…because the Tesla’s have build quality problems. VW also has the Porsche Taycan and the Audi e-tron GT to crush the model S.
Yeah, he even admitted that he expected it to be a joke, that and ownership bias clearly impacts the review. Imagine if he'd gone in to it open minded...
I Love the MarkE, Looks very aggresive, Not a Girly man design like Tesla. other reason, I can go to any ford dealership for any service, instead looking for a service center, 300 plus miles on a flat bed tow truck, That's what my dentist had to do to get his Model S P100D Fixed and a month Later
Ford is the number one car maker in recalls, so I guess it's smart to want to live near a dealer if you buy a Ford. I don't get the love of dealers. We had issues with the Ford dealer when we test drove the Mach-E. Can't imagine having to deal with them if something went wrong with your car. They didn't know anything about their own EV and the car we drove already had issues. It's really, really unfortunate that so many people who hate on Tesla have to do it with some childish, sexist remark. Really pathetic.
Can you camp in the Mustang like the model Y? Model Y has a 6’5” floor length with back seats folded down, and camp mode setting on Climate Control. Maybe the propulsion sound of the Mustang should be galloping horses.
Thanks for the video! As I finish 2 full months of waiting on delivery of my Model Y, I have been toying with the idea of walking into a Ford dealership and just driving home in a Mach-E. This video was perfect timing for me!
@@lanceoa I got the Model Y and I absolutely love it! It’s like an iPhone on wheels! It arrived shortly after I posted that comment so for me, it was a real exercise in patience.
@@michelecurtin awesome! I’ve test driven twice and just trying to make sure it will check all the boxes. Sure is an amazing zippy experience. But with working from home now it is much harder to make sense of it. That being said it also likely the highest resale value of EVs at the moment.
I've driven multiple Tesla's, including a new Model Y, and it rattled. It rattled like a cheap Ford Escape, but it's not CHEAP. I chose Mach-E because the overall build quality is better. Mexico built, and those plant workers made sure they did an excellent job on fit and finish! Chuatitlan built!
I have test driven both, and I’m still flip flopping between the two. However, the software and camera system of the MY has the edge today. Also, I am able to reserve a MY for 100.00 for the Mustang I have to put out 500.00. I am willing to give up the 100.00 if I choose the MachE, I am not willing to give up 500 to reserve the Mustang and end up going with the Tesla.
Tesla all the way. First, made in the USA, whereas Mustang is assembled in Mexico. Second, Tesla looks better from exterior IMHO. Range, performance, future OTAs (FSD for example), tech in general, and of course supercharger network. Not to mention, Tesla's resale value. No way I would ever choose the Mustang over the Y, unless price is a deciding factor (I guess $7.5K federal credit applies to Mustang).
@@Pir8at50 Just looked it up. The Ford deposit is refundable. If you cancel your order you can get your money back. The Tesla order deposit is non-refundable.
I use my frunk all the time. It’s the safest place to store my purse and backpack. The items in your frunk are safe even if a thief breaks out your window.
Great video. Love the unbias approach despite being a Model Y owner. I own a Performance Model 3 and am happy with Ford's effort. If Tesla didn't exist and OEM's naturally released electric cars a Mach-E wouldn't be my first choice but I'd consider it. I'd probably go 1) Polestar 2, 2) Rivian, 3) Mach-E. Regarding the "electric cars pollute via coal plants" argument, I know you understand it, but the fuel mix is rapidly changing and in 5-10 years that argument will be moot. It's already a dumb argument but I get it.
@@Gjeebs no no, i'm just saying that cleanliness of the energy that propels your electric vehicle is fully dependent on the fuel mix (% of coal, nat. gas, solar, wind, hydro, nuclear) of your state. The fuel mix of someone in Iowa vs Colorado vs Ohio vs California vs Hawaii are all completely different. So the blanket statement people make that "the smokestack from coal plants is powering your car ya EV dummy" is too simplistic. I tried to find a site that breaks it down well but none were that great. If you search "US Electricity Generation Fuel Mix ("by state" is cool too)" you can see the obvious trend, but breaking it down by state really shows you where your energy comes from on a local level. www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/28/climate/how-electricity-generation-changed-in-your-state-election.html (hopefully links work) Once Tesla has solar powering every charging station it will be a true gamechanger. Not sure if that will truly mean solar panels installed at every supercharger location or just that they'll just purchase SRECs (Solar Renewable Energy Credits - I can't explain as well as a quick google search) for every Supercharger kWh but either way it's an awesome improvement.
The planned charger route with Telsa is the main reason why I would go with them over any other electric car. After you have owned an EV then maybe that would not be such a selling price. But for someone who is new to EV I'd image having planned stops for charging would be amazing.
I looked through few hundred of the comments and didn’t see anyone address this so I will. Mainly because the Ford salesman who showed me the car made the same error, the mispronunciation of the drive mode ‘Unbridled’. The red car is a Mustang. A Mustang is a horse, a wild horse to be precise. When referring to the drive modes, pronounce the Unbridled mode with a long ‘i’ , not a short ‘i’. Then make the connection back to the idea of a wild horse, a Mustang, without a bridle, without the reins to control, the horse, in effect a fast horse without any encumbrances , fast without limitations. It’s sad that the connection is lost. We need more horse people.
I bought a model 3. It's on order right now for a January delivery. I was thinking hard about the Mach-E, but I have a 2014 Ford Fusion Hybrid currently... It needs its 4th transmission... had other issues, too... Ford hasn't really impressed me all that much with quality. My Fusion had body panel fit and finish problems which they refused to fix because they said it was just cosmetic, had a few pain runs, and some cheap plastic broken parts over the years... I dunno.... Enjoyed the Fusion, anyway, but it definitely had it's share of issues that shouldn't have been there.
If you are using the Ford Navigation that is integrated it does show chargers and it will even plan how much charge you need to get at each charger to get to the next. Using Waze or Google Maps will not do that even on a Tesla.
check out Tom Maloughney's channel. He's done a range test for almost all the EVs out there. Spoiler alert, and to no surprise to Tesla owners, Tesla never gets to the advertised EPA range in any of their models.
Great job on this video. You gained a subscriber. May want to start using those frunks: They are super handy, and are great for things like reusable grocery bags, blankets, first aid kits, etc. Also, regarding charging EVs: The Union of Concerned Scientists have been doing research on this very subject for years. In regards to pollution within the charging infrastructure: No matter how dirty a grid is (I live in the Rocky Mountain Region, the dirtiest electrical grid in the nation), it is only a matter of mileage before an EV "repays" its pollution debt from manufacturing and charging, and becomes less polluting than any other equivalent gasoline or diesel car. Additionally: Any efficiency gain in the charging network exponentially "cleans up" the electricity into ALL EVs within that charging infrastructure.
I’ve owned a model Y for a year now. Today I test drove a Maché. Drives nice. The Mache’s cabin rides high so rolls on sharp turns at speed. The Tesla hugs the road no matter the speed and curve or approach. Start/Stop button in the Mache is silly. I didn’t like the Mache’s hood in my view. This review doesn’t stress the contrast of the truck size and height. Mache’s steering is super smooth and rides soft whereas the Tesla steering is more responsive and rides stiffer. I’m amazed how much I’ve adjusted to the minimalism of Tesla’s single screen. The Mâché’s dash is desperately busy, and unnecessarily so. The charging network with the Mache absolutely sucks. The single and most convincing reason not to own one. The same 7 hour road trip takes me an additional 50min of charging whereas it takes the Mache 12 hrs total. My friend with the Mache says he just can’t go on road trips without planning an additional 40% longer for charging.
Thanks for the review. I reserved a MME back in December, then I drove a MY and now I have some doubts, but I'm sure I truly enjoyed the MY the most. I only wish it had Android auto.
You'll love the MME trust, I say that as a MY &' MME owner. Yes all he said about Tesla is true they are way more advance in every aspect but you wont be having troubles finding charging stations as the MME does let you know where the charging stations are at as well when you go on road trips it does tell you where you'll need to stop and charge throughout the trip :)
Another downside for the Ford Mache E is having to deal with Ford Dealers during purchase process. They will tack fees to your contract or at least try.
You forgot to mention that the tesla model y has a better all wheel drive then the Mach e. So if your car was stuck in mud or is in a slippery surface the Tesla would be able to handle it better. I saw a video on it.
Another great video “4K” was awesome. I agree with you about the Tesla Charging network being a huge differentiator. Pleased that Ford produced a quality EV and that other manufacturers are committing to EV in the near future.
Why I bought a Model Y instead of a Mach-e: 1. Infotainment: Ford was, well Ford and the infotainment system was clunky and hard to use. Tesla with the integrated Google maps/ charging as well as the apps puts it over the top. 2. Charging Network: Tesla's network speaks for itself. Keep it up Ford, you're off to a great start. I loved the Mach-e but loved the Model Y more.
What would you guys pick if the charging network was the same?
Tesla because ELON is the goat.
The Tesla. I love the elegance of my Model Y.
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While tesla has a lot of advantages, it also has not so obvious disadvantages. Getting service on it requires day trips for some in the US and they could do way better with disabling things with who they deem bad actors and don’t even dare try fixing something on your own
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My answer is the same as yours. I am in the market for an electric car and I've test driven both cars. I loved the Mach-E, it felt very safe and solid. I do wish the regen braking was a little more aggressive as you said, but overall I loved that car. Then I test drove the Model Y and I had so much fun on that short little test drive. The seats were definitely more comfortable than the Mach-E, the regen braking felt nice and confident, the sound system was unbelievable, and the acceleration? Best I've ever felt. Between the two the deciding factor is the charging network. Ford has the electrify America chargers but many youtubers have posted showing how bad and unreliable they actually are. You don't want to be hundreds of miles from home stuck at a fast charger where none of the stalls work. With Tesla, you can be confident knowing when you get there, they will work. I'm saving up for my Red Model Y, I plan on making the purchase in Sept of 2022 after the new version of it comes out. Thanks for the videos Gjeebs, enjoying the content!
You won't regret your choice with the Tesla. Test drives is a very tiny teaser of great this car really is....
Loving my '21 Model Y Performance and I have basically zero use for supercharging as I stay pretty much local.
You are making the right choice. Your going to love it.
Your going to love your 2nd generation of Model Y with the structural front and rear castings, structural battery pack and state of the art 4680 battery cells. We may be trading up in a few years from our 2021 Model Y.
@Koby Adventures Yes according to Elon. My guess is that Tesla will kick off Giga TX production with the Performance Model Y and will add an exclusive color option.
I test drove the Mach-E twice And almost bought it but still went and test drove a model Y. Immediately ordered a model Y, was just so much better. The mach-e is fun but still feels like you're driving a Ford car. The Tesla was an experience in itself and shows that a good company can still change the way we think of driving and how we experience it.
Yea great point
Agreed. MY looks and feels more like the future.
We had the exact same experience. Can't wait to get our red Model Y!
I had the same experience with the same result. Kept trying to talk myself into the Ford. Didn't work. And I'm a longtime Ford SUV owner.
I went the Mach-E route purely based on looks :P. I’m not a fan of the egg/catfish look of Tesla vehicles and love the front grill of the Mach-E. I am concerned about the processor used in the Mach-E since I know the Model Y isn’t skimping in that department. Also, there are soooo many Teslas around (for good reason) and I’m just sick of looking at them :P Both cars are great and I can’t wait to finally ditch my ICE vehicle.
I'm addicted to your channel brother, thank you for all that you do. Just got my model Y in red and have already purchased about $1,500 in accessories! I'm hooked!
I think your overall summary of the Mach E is that "it's not bad, it's just not as good as the Model Y", and I agree.
I've watched my fair share of Mach-E/Tesla video comparisons in the last few months, and this was, by far, the most objective one I've seen. Additionally, I've not commented on the other videos. Thank you for sharing your experience from an objective point of view.
I am a M3P owner and test drove the Mach-e (regular and GT version). It is a nice car that many folks would enjoy. I prefer the minimalist Tesla interior, but many folks would have the opposite opinion. One thing I noticed immediately during the test drives that you did not mention, but is obvious in your video, is the massive hood. The M3 and Y have a front end that slopes down radically, making the front hood disappear from the driver's seat. The forward visibility in the Tesla is fantastic, whereas I felt like I had blinders on when driving the Mach-e. Anyone coming from a gas car with the big hood won't even notice, it is only because I come from such a radically shaped vehicle. Tesla does not offer entry level vehicles and price of the lower-tier Mach-e is now significantly lower than the Model Y in the 1-year+ since you made your video. I totally agree with your assessment regarding the charging network, but the dealership network is Ford's huge advantage over Tesla as it make service a snap. I decided to order a Model Y after my Mach-e test drive, in part for the heat pump (I live in the Northeast and the range of my M3P is halved in the cold), in part because I liked everything a bit more in the Tesla compared to the Ford and in part because we are lucky to have a Tesla service center in my city. That said, I have to admit that the "I liked everything a bit more in the Tesla" most likely reflects my familiarity with the product. I suspect that many ICE drivers would have the same familiarity pull with the Ford rather than the Tesla. Nice review, thank you.
Cool story
Your channel is going to explode. Your videography/editing improves by the goddamn day and your humor is on point. You’re crushing it, and I’m glad you’re not traveling all over the place as a device rep, brutal grind. Keep doing what you love.
Appreciate it man!
@@Gjeebs Gjeebs, you've always reviewed cars with a verve, man. I haven't even finished this vid review, but my first car was a '65 Mustang. This all-electric Mustang seems taut, built and strong. Can't wait ta finish this. NBA playoffs are pulling at me, though!
@@Gjeebs I agree. Great job with the direct comparisons. Love these kind of reviews. My only suggestion is when you analyze a particular aspect on the car, have the camera guy shoot a separate video in closer detail. That way when you start talking about the frunk or the Ford touchscreen for example, you can cut to the detail clip as you are still talking.
Excellent comprehensive and fair review - really appreciate your efforts. I just bought a Tesla Model 3LR - my first EV and I love it. Am now interested in what is going on in the rest of the EV universe and your video is a great resource. Subscribed! Good luck and happy new year.
Thank you!
Tom Moloughney did constant 70mph tests using 100% of the batteries. The 2020 Model Y got 275.4 miles and the Mach-E got 285 miles. So, very close on range.
Crazy/impressive the Mach-E did better
I have the model Y and enjoy your videos. I like the Mach E small screen above the steering wheel. With the Tesla I’ve got too say I miss having individual control of each air vent. These are just personal preference things and very minor. Another good video Gjeebs!
I drove both cars on extended test drives. I researched both. I was logging in to order the Tesla when they jacked the price up 2 grand. That made like 8 grand increase since January 21. It is not like they used better materials or anything. So, the Ford interior was more roomy and they did not jack up the price so I ordered the Ford. The funny thing is the Ford had been more expensive than the Model Y before the latest price increase.
The Mach E is built better tho and now there is the Mach E GT. I didn't the like structural integrity of the Model Y because there were rattles and squeaks and if does that now, what will be like 3 or 4 years from now?
@@rjs1674 My husband is getting the ford lightening electric truck whenever they have more to buy, and I’m getting Mach E, but I don’t know about the GT...umm
Glad you touched on the re-gen. I’ve gotten so used to one peddle driving that’s it’s frustrating to drive anything else, so I would opt for an aggressive re-gen. Regardless, Ford deserves a lot of credit here. It’s the second viable option I’ve seen.
The mustang has a button to push to get more aggressive re-gen if you want more!!!!
Mach E has one paddle driving.
Went with a Model Y 7 seater - don't use the extra seats all the time but able to fit kids/friends for short trips so we didn't have to take 2 cars and they fold flat so not sacrificing any space when not using them. Extra storage with the frunk/sub trunk also comes in handy. Definitely agree with the added benefits of the tesla super charging network which is in addition to being able to charge wherever the Mach-E can charge at (electrify america, blink, evgo, etc).
I am looking to buy my first EV. This week I test drove the Mach-e and the Model Y. I'm like Gjeebs where I really think Ford has done a good job but my first big comparison was the front cabin. I'm 6'4" and 290#; my drive buddy is 5'7" and pretty hefty. I felt like two sardines in the Mach-e. As soon as I sat in the Model Y I felt like the car is much wider and comfortable. Now granted, I drove them two days apart and my muscle memory may have betrayed me but the Tesla seems like a larger interior. I currently have a Ford Edge SUV and although I don't haul a lot of stuff, I feel like the cargo area of the Tesla is great whereas the Mach-e seems quite small. Once again, like you... I think the Tesla Super Charging infrastructure is the icing on the cake that is leading me to the Model Y.
smart option ;)
Ha! We test drove the Mach-e last week and loved our first ever EV drive. However due to the ordering process, resell value, charging, software, keys and looks we ordered the Model Y yesterday. Still haven't test drove the Y and was a little worried about this exact thing.
you saying you test drive the MEX-e LOL good luck charting that thing using EA is Awesome Shit LOL
I test drove them back to back and there was no caparison the Telsa blew it 100 percent on every level.
From all the technology, the acceleration, over the air updates, FSD, sentry mode, Easter eggs, ease of buying, charging network, and the cool factor, no manufacturer can offer the unique experience that is buying a Tesla.
They’ll just be another car company shortly as they still offer cars that have below average quality, and everyone will be offering many electric car options. The visibility in Model Y is very poor. Usability and having to do everything through a touch screen is also very poor user experience.
@@adan7182 I’m sorry this has been your experience with Tesla vehicles. I can say that I’ve had no problems with my model 3, enjoy the touch screen features, and overall I’m extremely happy with my purchase. So happy in fact, I take delivery of another model 3 next month, and the Cybertruck next year.
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Sandy Munro, 2021
"As good as Anything from Germany".
Elon Musk, 2021 (model Y Berlin/ Texas)
"We're aiming for microns, not millimetres" (castings will do that).
"Everyone will be offering electric options"..... While "chewing their own leg off" trying to transition sales from ICE and service from static dealerships (watch for mergers)
Then they'll be competing with each other before getting close to Tesla.
Visibility?..... Rear view on the big screen? I'll bet the ford isn't "stellar"?
Having to do "everything" by pressing one button on the wheel and saying (for instance) " I'm cold" (heating comes on) or 170+ other commands? Poor experience??? Really?
Of course, if it's in Autopilot the car looks after you while you look away (momentarily!) So safer!
Did I miss anything?
I've had the Mach-e for 4 months now and I much prefer over my model S. I got the 300 RWD Range mi version and I consistently get over 360 mi on charge where my Tesla p100d 315 mile range rarely get 260 miles on a charge. That why is makes me want to get rid of it. I drive very safely and I don't floor it. I try to maintain safe levels for the battery yeah I have never gotten what is advertised. The Mach-e is slightly slower but it's still a very fast car compared to most other vehicles.
The funny thing is that I live in Los Angeles, the number one city of Tesla sales and the charging network is pitiful here. My closest supercharger has been broken for 9 months at least but the charging Network for the Mach e in California is far better. There are a lot less people who have the same network so I'm not competing for chargers as well. Would Tesla on a road trip, it is sometimes a nightmare to charge
Midway to San Francisco. I think this review was pretty comprehensive but I am happy that I'm probably going to get away from Tesla for a while.
I thought the Y pulled away quite a distance for how short the rolling run was .. and was gaining more but he let off. Wish you kept it going another few seconds. Great video as usual and like you I would take Tesla Y over the Mach e.
The Mach E GT is the one you want. It's much faster than the Mach E but the thing about the model Y is, it has a lot of rattles and squeaks and if it does that when it's new, what will it be like 4 years from now?
Keep the videos coming! Looking great!
Btw, you can get specific apps to control your Tesla app with voice. So if you have full hands and a smartwatch or phone in hearing distance, just tell it to open the trunk and you don't have to set anything down. :) Maybe you can try some of these out and review them?
A Norwegian conciliation council has ordered Tesla to pay thousands of dollars each to Model S owners after it found that a software update led to longer charging times, the Norwegian newspaper Nettavisen reported Monday. Drivers eligible for compensation under the ruling will receive 136,000 kroner ($16,000) each.
Great! Regulation should work for the people. Every car company will try to get away with whatever they can. We need government regulators to keep us safe.
Not really. It is a 0 level court - FUD. Tesla was not present, so the judge did not research the merits but had to assign the maximum penalty automatically. I'm sure in the 1 level court Tesla layers will arrive and the judge will judge. And then, there are appellation courts. So, nothing actually was decided yet.
We love the Premium AWD Mach-E we just got. We prefer the styling both inside and out. We like the more traditional controls and I think that will get a lot of new people into electric cars. The charging infrastructure will improve greatly in the near future. The $7,500 tax credit was also a factor. The Mach-E does have an optional white interior, we test drove one, though opted for the black.
Same reasoning. I got the carbonized gray.
Got carb. grey and would have gotten the light grey interior if I could have found one. It's all a matter of preference. Driving the Tesla, I found it loud and felt the road. It's a great live of vehicles, and I understand why people like them. Personally, I think the MME is soooo much better looking, nicer interior. But you can't go wrong either way.
Still waiting for my model Y , thank you so much for the review man
Test drove the Model Y and 3. The next day I test drove the Mach-E. The following day I ordered one. Why? Screen behind wheel, CarPlay, it has a better ride than Y, federal tax rebate, volume knob (intuitive), hands-free hatch, massive dealer network, and styling. I’ll give the charging network to Tesla, but that edge is temporary, as EV charging is expanding by the day. Dislikes with the Y: there was an annoying rattle. Checking the cargo areas (upper and lower), I couldn’t find the source. The ride was harsher. The interior is Spartan to a fault...just too antiseptic for my taste. While they were once novel, the outside styling now looks vanilla, as Teslas are now ubiquitous on the road. Having just the center screen is not good for critical information, since it pulls your eyes from the road. I’ve heard of significant wait times for Tesla service in the Boston area, which gives Ford a massive edge, due to their network of dealerships. My decision wasn’t even close, and this comes from someone who initially snickered at Ford’s initial reveal of the Mach-E and always lusted for a Tesla.
Nice summary. I am getting really sick and tired of all these “reviewers” getting into a Tesla and pronouncing that “this is the future”! It is NOT - it’s just Tesla’s view. The future is not barren, boring spartan interiors just because that’s what Tesla does (which Is really because it is the low cost option) , every “car” maker should be able to have there own design direction and not be lambasted for it because it isn’t like a Tesla. Anyway, as a consumer I want more choice, variety, suppliers etc in any market, not one monopoly player that dictates what I want. It’d be a pretty awful and boring streetscape if everyone was driving the same car.
love the efforts that you're putting in Gjeebs!!
I don't use it daily but I do use the frunk on road trips, or when I want valuable items secured.
Yes, Tesla could offer more colors, etc.
I suspect once they can produce enough cars to outstrip demand, they will.
I think they're looking into a wrapping service.
Great Video! Just at the end though where you show the Mustang Mach-E - Just misleading information where the label shows stating price of $42,895 0-60 in 3.5 secs and range of 305 miles. People might think they can get a 0-60 time for $42,895 and 305 miles - not the case. Also, I noticed more body roll in the Mach-E compared to my Tesla Performance Model Y.
The Mach-E GT Performance Edition Extended Range Battery, a
$5,000 added on option which has a Target Range: 235 miles and a Usable Battery Capacity: 88 kWh 0-60 in 3.5 seconds which starts at $64,900 before choosing interior/exterior colors or packages. Now if you want the 305 mile range with a 0-60 time of 6.1 secs for the rear-wheel drive only - that would be the California Route 1 edition which starts at $50,400 before any ext/inter color ops or packages. 😉
I noticed that as well. My intuition kicked in and was going to verify but you saved me the time...thanks. This is the first review by GJeebs I have seen. Very credible and reviewers his quality are few in my opinion.
Because you asked... un-BRY-dilled. :)
What’s a mustang? It’s a horse. What do you put on it to ride? A bridle. When you take it off, it’s .
What this guy said. Also, its pronounced like bride, but with an "L" sound. Un-bride-uhled.
When you set Unbridled mode, it releases the seatbelt. :-)
Finally an honest review! I'd pick the Mach-E! Test drove both and fell in love with the Mach-E. Just felt more refined, solid and better quality. Model Y needs a couple more years to get the quality issues sorted out. @25:00 He says Tesla will be in trouble if Ford figures out the charging network. Ford has Plug & Charge which I've used many times. Just pull up to a 350kW fast charger, plug in and it immediately charges. It charges my Ford account afterwards. Super easy to use and identical to the Tesla Supercharger network. This is a brand new car and charging network and it'll have bugs just like Tesla did in the beginning but its getting better everyday. Really happy to see there's a direct competitor to Tesla now.
Three and four mock E’s are being sold in California. I guess a lot of people want some thing that looks different because all you see in California is Teslas
Lots of Teslas in California. I just got back from a road trip. Huge supercharger stations very busy all the time. Luckily there was always a few open. But its busy for sure. They have been adding stalls and will continue to need to do so.
This was a well thought out video, great job. I can tell you first hand i went to a large Ford dealer in San Diego a few weeks ago to look at the Mach E, they had like 10 of them on the lot. Apparently they were all special order, they wouldn’t even open one of them for me. Now i get production is down, Covid, whatever, but if you can’t test drive one or they make it difficult, why would you want to buy one? Ford needs to get their shit together and understand the EV market and buyer, the mind set, and right now they’re about as far as they can get from it. Their dealer network is a bunch of old guys who are used to the good old days, when beating you up on your trade and then “Making a deal” on a new car is the program. Ordering my 2 Tesla’s was the easiest and best car experience I’ve ever had, and enjoyable, including the easiest test drive EVER. They don’t need to SELL Teslas, they sell themselves. Ford dealers and other OE’s need a major course correction, or they’re literally going to loose a massive amount of their market because all their customers are an older generation that is fading. This mind set is reflected in the design of the Mach E. The whole idea that they could use the “Mustang” brand to build their 1st EV is part of the irony, stop milking the brand to make something new and technologically advanced, just DESIGN & BUILD something NEW!!! How many versions of the Mustang are they going to Milk? I’m sorry, but if your a traditional Mustang buyer, the Mach E is ugly as sin. If your not a Mustang buyer in the past, because you don’t like or need one, why would you buy an EV with the same name? All Ford did was take the Tesla and try to make a couple things better (they thought) and slap the Mustang label on it. They forgot all the stuff that matters: The Tech, charging network, range, power, and lastly, they need to spend about a billion dollars on a cool marketing campaign that understands who the EV buyer really is, and what they want, not what FORD wants to sell.
spot on
I built a Mach E GT. And the dealership tacked on a 2k mark up so I cancelled on the spot, now I’m ordering a Model Y performance I will never pay a penny markup for no car great content.
Smart move to not put up with the markup bs. Tesla has the best buying experience because you never have to deal with a salesman
@@Gjeebs Agreed!
The tone of the comparison was absolutely spot on. The review was amazing ... quiet point by point comparison.
I recently took my test drive of a Model Y. It was terrific, most enjoyable, smiling all the time. That was my first EV experience. I have not been able to arrange a test drive of the Mach e as local dealer informs me no vehicles are available to drive. Your review has been most informative and has I think sealed my decision to purchase the Tesla! I should mention that even with the Ford A plan discount ( I am a retiree) and the federal tax savings with the Ford, I believe the Tesla would be a smarter purchase.
As you point out the charging infrastructure that Tesla has is a very strong reason to buy if you plan to drive to the ends of your battery range.
Amazing how fast Ford is catching up on the charging network and soon to pass Tesla. This is because Ford is integrating directly to the chargers in the app like Tesla but uses third-party charging stations like electrify America. Also it was announced earlier that Tesla supercharger’s Will soon open up to all EV’s.
Good to know. Even better if Ford actually built a network. There would be very few electric EV in the world had Tesla not had not invested in an oven ready charging network and continued to expand it rapidly.
You are delusional if you think Ford is catching up on the charging network when they don’t even have their own dedicated network but rely on faulty, unreliable, frustrating and range anxiety inducing 3rd party chargers - catching up to Tesla?? 💀
@@nipheleim871 Well, where I live Tesla opened up many of their ”fantastic” stations to everyone 😂
Quick suggestion: this video really showed the cars in all its glory. However, it would have been nice if the skies banding / over exposure could have been handled in post, if this was shot in RAW. Something to think about for next video. But yes, please keep dropping 2K and 4K videos, its great!
Yea I didn't shoot it in RAW but I agree it does look better
@@Gjeebs yes sir it does. Just thought I'd share my thoughts. Great set of videos though:)
Don’t know if anyone answered but it’s unbridled with a long i sound. Nice video. You do good work. Watched several vids to prepare us for the Y performance.
We ordered a Model Y after test-driving the Mach-E and the ID.4. The Mach-E we test drove at the dealer had build issues -- the mirrors couldn't be adjusted (they shut closed if you tried) and the drive mode couldn't be changed. That was a huge turn off for us. I mean, the test drive vehicle should be in really good shape! The ID,4 we drove also had issues. Anyway, Ford has more recalls than any manufacturer. We decided that even if there were some panel gap issues (our Prius has them, so not that worried), the driving experience was better with the Tesla we test drove and obviously the charging network is superior. Still waiting for our Y (but then, our wait would be even longer if we'd ordered a Mach-E).
LOL. You've got to drive some defective cars (you must be incredibly unlucky) and then made your conclusion based on that? There is a Mach-E forum, defects are very rare, not like Tesla that each car has multiple defects and you pay even before test driving and then wait and hope they will fix all the defects.😂
@@ElementaryWatson-oxo have you ever bought a car and owned one? Do you know the difference between cosmetic issues and mechanical issues? Who would pay for a car before taking delivery? On all of the cars we test drove, we had to put down a deposit of $100 if we wanted to buy one, but only if we wanted to do that. We did not have to pay anything to test drive. And when we decided on the Tesla, we didn't have to pay for it in advance. The day of delivery, we thoroughly inspected the car (no defects, btw), then sat in the car and signed the paperwork and transferred the money using our phone. If we'd bought a Ford, we would have done all of that in the dealer's financing office instead of inside the car. Otherwise the process would have been very much the same. I assume you're new to vehicle ownership. We've had many, many vehicles from different manufacturers over decades of driving. We aren't naive buyers and we understand the difference between cosmetic defects that don't affect the drivability of a car and mechanical ones. You want to see a disaster waiting to happen? Check out Sandy Munro's teardown of the hose and clamp nightmare under the Mach-E's hood. When you think about reliability, the panel gaps and paint defects don't matter. It's much more important to know that there is a reduced chance that you'll be stranded on the road from a mechanical problem. In survey after survey, Tesla owners are happy with their cars and say they'd buy them again, because most people don't actually care about cosmetic issues, all of which can be solved (and also don't impact drivability). They want genuine reliability. They want to know that they can get from point A to point B safely and efficiently.
@@artmotocafela7874 -- Tesla cult is triggered. 🤣🤣🤣
@@ElementaryWatson-oxo Don't worry. When you're old enough to buy a car you will have guidance from your parents or another trusted adult. Remember to take driver's ed seriously. The skills you will learn in that class could save your life or the lives of those around you. Driving is serious business. We are in charge of massive machines when we get behind the wheel. Good luck!
Do an update 2 years later..Numerous OTA updates for the Mach E...Continues to get better all the time
Great Video I have the 2022 premium mach E and it does let you know where all the charging stations are, I can also use the Tesla charging stations because it has a universal charging port.
Have you used a Tesla charger yet? How does it charge you?
@@Gjeebs yes I have and I haven’t had any issues, I used the Tesla charging station at a mall. They now have the Blue Oval Charge Network. I’m not sure if they had this with the first series of these vehicles.
Went with Mach E. Couldn't justify paying $12k more for the Model Y. Biggest advantage of the Tesla is really supercharger, and I wouldn't use that. Not a big car tripper.
Tesla’s software alone is worth the extra 12k. Go buy a Ford and be disappointed oh don’t forget to grab the Ford Mustang men’s Cologne too
@@durrsky1515Tesla Regen braking makes me nauseous...
A quick way to compare range is to look at watts per mile. Both cars record that info. Model Y around 270 watts. Mustang around 310. (Your milage may vary). Model Y 75 kWh. Mustang 88 kWh usable.
i would easily go for the mach e mainly because of how hard tesla makes it for you to even get tires for their cars. Ford will back their products and theyre a bigger company (they are everywhere too). I personally like the looks of mach e vs Y. The right to repair plays a part in EVs and tesla has established a reputation like apple.
Everything you said is totally fair except the tires. You can get them next day from tire rack no problem
@@Gjeebs i saw a video of this guy who repairs his own Tesla’s because the company refuses to sell him any parts and I remember him trying to get tires, maybe they have since back tracked? I’ll try to find and link his channel in but he ended up reverse engineering during his repairs
The fronk is not the least used storage space but rather the most forgotten space to make use of. It takes time to get use to having that space but once you do you use it regularly. I keep my exercise equipment in my front and use it daily.
Now this is a solid review. I expect this video to blow up!
Thank you for making this video. Very informative - appreciate it 👍
Greetings from Norway 🇳🇴
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for this informative video on buying a Ford Mach E which I’m considering buying later this year. This was a treasure of information on the purchasing process of this vehicle.
Great comparison. Love how the Bach cello suites are used to introduce a mustang 🤣.
Well steps involved to start Ford vs Tesla.
Ford:
1. Keys in pocket- get in car
2. Apply break, press start button and drive
Tesla:
1. Card in pocket get in the car.
2. Take out the card and place it exactly near the cup holder for car to detect the card then apply breaks and drive.
According to me it really depends what experience you want but as an industrial engineer I think the steps involved in each process are same but chances of error with Tesla are more. I’m someone who forgets keys in car so the key in pocket feature is actually a pulse.
Again this is not a deal breaker but trying to state the facts.
The card key is a secondary option for Tesla. You just walk up with your phone in your pocket and open the door. Foot on brake and drive
@@Gjeebs that’s error proofing right there. Thanks for this information. The Tesla center in my city didn’t cover this part.
You're noticing the range dropping slower in the Mach-E because the battery is much bigger, tires are skinny, and the wheels are smaller. Your tesla has those big tires and induction wheels that reduce range quite a bit. Either way, Ford did a great job with this car. Plus with that tax credit it's just so much cheaper and I think it looks better on the exterior. After sitting in both, it would be really really tough to pick. I'd lean Model Y for overall being better, but Mach E for looks and cheaper price due to tax credit.
This is your best video yet love the opening and the music!
Good video - thanks. I especially liked how you showed how to open the doors and the rear trunk of the Mustang.
Great video! Actually really like the way the Mach-E looks. That orange on the GT Mach-E was so nice! Thanks for your videos! I’m eager to see what the F150 Lightning will be like. I haven’t switched to EV yet. I am looking forward to the Cybertruck too. Thanks Man!
Thanks for watching!
Not a mustang
We will be taking delivery of our Model Y next week. It's our third electric car (Model 3 and BMW i3).
At this time and after watching this review I can't think of one reason for me to say "I wish I ordered the Ford M2, not the Tesla Mod Y).
The Mod Y seems to handily beat the M2 when it comes to:
- range
- acceleration
- cabin space
- storage space
- user interface
- autonomy
- quality of materials
- design and style (that's subjective, of course)
In fact, if it was 3 years ago when we took delivery of our Mod 3 and the only EV available to purchase at the time was the M2 (the Mod 3 or Tesla did not exist) would I buy a M2? Not likely. And this coming from someone who happily owned a traditional Ford Mustang up until a few years ago.
You’re really trying not to be bias to Tesla…but you are. Ford has been making cars for 118 years, they’ll figure it out. VW has been making cars for 84 years and they’re already making cars superior to Tesla. I’d choose the iD4 then the Mach E…because the Tesla’s have build quality problems. VW also has the Porsche Taycan and the Audi e-tron GT to crush the model S.
Yeah, he even admitted that he expected it to be a joke, that and ownership bias clearly impacts the review. Imagine if he'd gone in to it open minded...
I Love the MarkE, Looks very aggresive, Not a Girly man design like Tesla. other reason, I can go to any ford dealership for any service, instead looking for a service center, 300 plus miles on a flat bed tow truck, That's what my dentist had to do to get his Model S P100D Fixed and a month Later
Ford is the number one car maker in recalls, so I guess it's smart to want to live near a dealer if you buy a Ford.
I don't get the love of dealers. We had issues with the Ford dealer when we test drove the Mach-E. Can't imagine having to deal with them if something went wrong with your car. They didn't know anything about their own EV and the car we drove already had issues.
It's really, really unfortunate that so many people who hate on Tesla have to do it with some childish, sexist remark. Really pathetic.
Just because there is a dealer near you doesn’t mean they know how to work on the Mach e. This will become apparent over time.
As a tesla lover, i have to admit the mustang is a real good looking car😎
Can you camp in the Mustang like the model Y? Model Y has a 6’5” floor length with back seats folded down, and camp mode setting on Climate Control.
Maybe the propulsion sound of the Mustang should be galloping horses.
Like the classical music touch.
Thanks for the video! As I finish 2 full months of waiting on delivery of my Model Y, I have been toying with the idea of walking into a Ford dealership and just driving home in a Mach-E. This video was perfect timing for me!
Yea there are none in stock there either, about 18 week lead time
What did you end up with?
@@lanceoa I got the Model Y and I absolutely love it! It’s like an iPhone on wheels! It arrived shortly after I posted that comment so for me, it was a real exercise in patience.
@@michelecurtin awesome! I’ve test driven twice and just trying to make sure it will check all the boxes. Sure is an amazing zippy experience. But with working from home now it is much harder to make sense of it. That being said it also likely the highest resale value of EVs at the moment.
I've driven multiple Tesla's, including a new Model Y, and it rattled. It rattled like a cheap Ford Escape, but it's not CHEAP. I chose Mach-E because the overall build quality is better. Mexico built, and those plant workers made sure they did an excellent job on fit and finish! Chuatitlan built!
Hm. My Tesla doesn’t rattle.
I have test driven both, and I’m still flip flopping between the two. However, the software and camera system of the MY has the edge today. Also, I am able to reserve a MY for 100.00 for the Mustang I have to put out 500.00. I am willing to give up the 100.00 if I choose the MachE, I am not willing to give up 500 to reserve the Mustang and end up going with the Tesla.
Tesla all the way. First, made in the USA, whereas Mustang is assembled in Mexico. Second, Tesla looks better from exterior IMHO. Range, performance, future OTAs (FSD for example), tech in general, and of course supercharger network. Not to mention, Tesla's resale value. No way I would ever choose the Mustang over the Y, unless price is a deciding factor (I guess $7.5K federal credit applies to Mustang).
Both deposits are refundable.
@@samesch85 So you’re saying if I cancel my order, I get my money back?
@@Pir8at50 Just looked it up. The Ford deposit is refundable. If you cancel your order you can get your money back. The Tesla order deposit is non-refundable.
@@samesch85 thanks.
Great info! Thank you! Love your content!
I am looking at both; but the elimination of the federal tax credit for tesla really turns me to the ford
Yea just make sure you drive both
big video, well done. Opening shots were great.
That Mustang Mach E is just amazingly beautiful. 💯💙
I use my frunk all the time. It’s the safest place to store my purse and backpack. The items in your frunk are safe even if a thief breaks out your window.
I agree!
SHOW US THE QUIRKS AND FEATURES
And give us his Gjeebs score
Gjeebs is the kind of guy who......
Great video brotha!!! Always love your dry humor. You do it without pausing.. love it!!!
I’ve used my frunk quite often in the 18 days of driving my model Y
I do as well. I always place the food we pick up for dinner into an insulated bag in the frunk. This way it doesn’t stink up the interior of the car.
Great video. Love the unbias approach despite being a Model Y owner. I own a Performance Model 3 and am happy with Ford's effort. If Tesla didn't exist and OEM's naturally released electric cars a Mach-E wouldn't be my first choice but I'd consider it. I'd probably go 1) Polestar 2, 2) Rivian, 3) Mach-E.
Regarding the "electric cars pollute via coal plants" argument, I know you understand it, but the fuel mix is rapidly changing and in 5-10 years that argument will be moot. It's already a dumb argument but I get it.
Glad you liked the review! Are you talking about the synthetic fuels they are creating?
@@Gjeebs no no, i'm just saying that cleanliness of the energy that propels your electric vehicle is fully dependent on the fuel mix (% of coal, nat. gas, solar, wind, hydro, nuclear) of your state. The fuel mix of someone in Iowa vs Colorado vs Ohio vs California vs Hawaii are all completely different. So the blanket statement people make that "the smokestack from coal plants is powering your car ya EV dummy" is too simplistic.
I tried to find a site that breaks it down well but none were that great. If you search "US Electricity Generation Fuel Mix ("by state" is cool too)" you can see the obvious trend, but breaking it down by state really shows you where your energy comes from on a local level. www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/28/climate/how-electricity-generation-changed-in-your-state-election.html (hopefully links work)
Once Tesla has solar powering every charging station it will be a true gamechanger. Not sure if that will truly mean solar panels installed at every supercharger location or just that they'll just purchase SRECs (Solar Renewable Energy Credits - I can't explain as well as a quick google search) for every Supercharger kWh but either way it's an awesome improvement.
Mach e doesn't belong here
I have a model three and I have to say I use the Frunk at least 90% of the time.
Just ordered model y 2021 few days ago! Can’t wait🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
Congrats! smart move :-)
The planned charger route with Telsa is the main reason why I would go with them over any other electric car. After you have owned an EV then maybe that would not be such a selling price. But for someone who is new to EV I'd image having planned stops for charging would be amazing.
android auto does this
I looked through few hundred of the comments and didn’t see anyone address this so I will. Mainly because the Ford salesman who showed me the car made the same error, the mispronunciation of the drive mode ‘Unbridled’. The red car is a Mustang. A Mustang is a horse, a wild horse to be precise. When referring to the drive modes, pronounce the Unbridled mode with a long ‘i’ , not a short ‘i’. Then make the connection back to the idea of a wild horse, a Mustang, without a bridle, without the reins to control, the horse, in effect a fast horse without any encumbrances , fast without limitations. It’s sad that the connection is lost.
We need more horse people.
I bought a model 3. It's on order right now for a January delivery. I was thinking hard about the Mach-E, but I have a 2014 Ford Fusion Hybrid currently... It needs its 4th transmission... had other issues, too... Ford hasn't really impressed me all that much with quality. My Fusion had body panel fit and finish problems which they refused to fix because they said it was just cosmetic, had a few pain runs, and some cheap plastic broken parts over the years... I dunno.... Enjoyed the Fusion, anyway, but it definitely had it's share of issues that shouldn't have been there.
If you are using the Ford Navigation that is integrated it does show chargers and it will even plan how much charge you need to get at each charger to get to the next. Using Waze or Google Maps will not do that even on a Tesla.
With Tesla opening up the charging network to non-tesla this makes the Ford even better.
You. Ever use the frunk???
I use mine all the time with my Model S. Also very useful when taking long trips.
Another Great video, Keep up the good work.
Appreciate the vid man.
If u do a range test, can you do a 55 mph test (this is the speed EPA tests at) and a 75 mph test (speed most people drive at)?
check out Tom Maloughney's channel. He's done a range test for almost all the EVs out there. Spoiler alert, and to no surprise to Tesla owners, Tesla never gets to the advertised EPA range in any of their models.
Great job on this video. You gained a subscriber. May want to start using those frunks: They are super handy, and are great for things like reusable grocery bags, blankets, first aid kits, etc.
Also, regarding charging EVs: The Union of Concerned Scientists have been doing research on this very subject for years. In regards to pollution within the charging infrastructure: No matter how dirty a grid is (I live in the Rocky Mountain Region, the dirtiest electrical grid in the nation), it is only a matter of mileage before an EV "repays" its pollution debt from manufacturing and charging, and becomes less polluting than any other equivalent gasoline or diesel car. Additionally: Any efficiency gain in the charging network exponentially "cleans up" the electricity into ALL EVs within that charging infrastructure.
Great comparison video. And i agree, because of the charging network, tesla all the way. Keep up the great work
I’ve owned a model Y for a year now. Today I test drove a Maché. Drives nice. The Mache’s cabin rides high so rolls on sharp turns at speed. The Tesla hugs the road no matter the speed and curve or approach. Start/Stop button in the Mache is silly. I didn’t like the Mache’s hood in my view. This review doesn’t stress the contrast of the truck size and height. Mache’s steering is super smooth and rides soft whereas the Tesla steering is more responsive and rides stiffer. I’m amazed how much I’ve adjusted to the minimalism of Tesla’s single screen. The Mâché’s dash is desperately busy, and unnecessarily so.
The charging network with the Mache absolutely sucks. The single and most convincing reason not to own one. The same 7 hour road trip takes me an additional 50min of charging whereas it takes the Mache 12 hrs total. My friend with the Mache says he just can’t go on road trips without planning an additional 40% longer for charging.
And were supposed to take your review seriously right Tesla troll?
Its called the Mach E
Not the "Mä¢hê"
Nice try though
@@joecool9739, nice try at what? How exactly is my feedback trolling? Grow up.
Love the bach😍 great comparison
Thanks for the review. I reserved a MME back in December, then I drove a MY and now I have some doubts, but I'm sure I truly enjoyed the MY the most. I only wish it had Android auto.
You'll love the MME trust, I say that as a MY &' MME owner. Yes all he said about Tesla is true they are way more advance in every aspect but you wont be having troubles finding charging stations as the MME does let you know where the charging stations are at as well when you go on road trips it does tell you where you'll need to stop and charge throughout the trip :)
With another price increase on Tesla, I am now seriously considering this.
I think the frunk is very usable. I store groceries in it and easier to get out when I get home in the garage.
Another downside for the Ford Mache E is having to deal with Ford Dealers during purchase process. They will tack fees to your contract or at least try.
Great point
You forgot to mention that the tesla model y has a better all wheel drive then the Mach e. So if your car was stuck in mud or is in a slippery surface the Tesla would be able to handle it better. I saw a video on it.
We need a bit more of @gjeebs dry sarcastic/ slightly offensive humor mixed in with videos. Always look forward to your uploads
Your underhanded sarcastic comments and satire are awesome 😂 keep it up 👍
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Another great video “4K” was awesome. I agree with you about the Tesla Charging network being a huge differentiator. Pleased that Ford produced a quality EV and that other manufacturers are committing to EV in the near future.
Thanks for the video
Why I bought a Model Y instead of a Mach-e:
1. Infotainment: Ford was, well Ford and the infotainment system was clunky and hard to use. Tesla with the integrated Google maps/ charging as well as the apps puts it over the top.
2. Charging Network: Tesla's network speaks for itself.
Keep it up Ford, you're off to a great start. I loved the Mach-e but loved the Model Y more.
I use my frunk all the time. I pack it first when going on trips.
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Will you do a review of the Nissan Ariya when you can get your hands on it?
Yea if I can get one I will review it
4K looks great but who was the robot that narrated the intro? 😆