ADV Roundtable Ep1-
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Hi Folks,
This is one unfiltered conversation we had on our last weekend catchup where we rode 4 Himalayan 450s (All Kamet White) and discussed about our individual experiences with the machines .
@abhinavbhatt & I were riding the Cross Spoke Wheel variant while @SrinivasGanesh and Yudhvir were riding their recently purchased near stock models.
Enjoy this long format video which is full off amazing insights about the Royal Enfield latest ADV and some raw fun conversations with different/comic perspectives.
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Love, peace & Strength
Jas Chawla
Twenty3 Rides
#royalenfield #himalayan450 #adventurebikes #himalayan
why was everyone so rude towards abhinav, he was just giving his logical and factual explanation
its not Rude man, they are all at the end of the day friends too, Pulling each other's leg is simply a part of this. 😛
Never worry about editing such videos ....just upload as they are .... didn't skip a single second of it ....just uplod one every sunday if possible 😅😅.....the energy and the vibe of everyone of you is just so addictive.
True bike lovers are going to enjoy trust me.
I enjoyed it thoroughly ❤❤❤
Bring more of these videos and dont worry about the time.
The longer it is, the better it is.
Next time i will make a 3 hrs long video and upload on NetFlix 😀😀😆. Thanks for watching this .
Abhinav i just love your take on the bike....honest practical and shows your experience...very mature review...
Abey yaaar - I cracked up so bloody hard so many times. And last mein Yadhuveer and Srinivas bobbing along was just so adorable!!!!!
Please make more such vlogs. You guys have tremendous experience and conversations like these bring out the best out of it!!
More love and success to you all
This was such a fun conversation! Saw it till the end. So much fun, looking forward to the next one.
🙏 thanks
I cancelled my afternoon nap when i saw all of you in one frame😃
Really enjoyed the casual podcast of 4 experienced riders, Abhinav's factual baatein and i hope i don't face the Looling in my upcoming 650😂
Thats one the biggest sacrifices for watching a video.. Being able to avoid afternoon nap especially after a heavy lunch 😀 i appreciate 🫡
Same thing happened with me 😴 but I watched full video.. although already we know all the things because we also have Himalayan. but still just want to hear something from you guys.
I subscribed to Twenty3rides only because of this video was stretched so long. This makes it different and much much more interesting. Good talk.
Thanks for the feedback.
Himalayan 450s are still plagued with cone-set issues. My bike was leaning to the right on delivery. This was fixed by adjusting/tightening the coneset. Then the front wheel started wobbling, no wobble felt at the handlebars. The rim seems bent off! Or it's an alignment issue outta the factory. RE HQ is currently investigating my bike.
Coneset need to be tighten with wrench with proper setting...if they tighten without proper setting...then issue will arrived for sure
@Sbakade2 yes this was done at the service center, which fixed the right leaning issue. But the wheel is still wobbling! Will try aligning and balance and truing the spokes
Balancing and truing the wheel fixed the wobble.
I have same issues with my bike. Pulling to right, yest on Highway both tyres were wobbling, handle bar is crooked, both brakes are making noise.
After 4 times visiting to RE service centre all these issues are not fixed.
Disappointed with RE and this bike.
Pls update is this fixed brother? And what is the solution?
My Himalayan also had the right side pull issue, but it is fixed now. As per RE flyers team there was a truing issue in front wheel
Damn! I love this!
You guys should actually consider starting a podcast talking about ownership (longterm or a min of 5000-10000 KMs). I would definitely listen to it, even if the conversation spans beyond 1 hour.
Thanks we will definitely try to create more such content
Isi video ki wajah se subscribe kiya hai. Content mast ho to length se koi farq nahin padta. Make this a series!
अभिनव सबसे बेहतर लगे मुझे , बहुत ही सही तरीके से बात रखते है। युद्धवीर को कोई रुचि नहीं है बस वो है क्योंकि है।
On the next adv roundtable can we discuss why honda & yamaha inspite of being in India for nearly 3 decades surprisingly have fail to capture the booming adv market in India. people have been demanding adv's like crf rally from Honda which is good fit considering the 350-450 segment and yamaha could have brought tenere for the 800 above segment.. I never understood what is wrong with the head honcho's of these brands who fails to see the opportunity.. Can we discuss what the panel thinks about the right fit of adv that should be brought to India..hopefully these dum. CEO's get to see this videos & understand what the consumer actually wants..( honda they are making RE knock off wtf 🤦♂️) ...Well I love this banter & chill format keep it up guys.
Great job Abhinav sir, Very nice video, I would say you should keep doing these videos
Abhinav I m following your all video rides on himalyan. Best content and true opinion.
This needs to be a series. Also, Srinivas+kaan mei baali= Sagar Sheldekar.
Srinivas - Is that the source of inspiration ??
Bahahahahahahahaha😂 yeh bhi try karte hain.
Watched the full video and enjoyed thoroughly, your friend was right about not needing to edit the video.
I know it’s not apples to apples, but since you guys have big bikes like Tigers and BMW, and now speak highly of the Himalayan as well, do you think one can get good value for money with a Tiger 900 Rally Pro compared to the Himalayan 450? I am considering between both. I know it would not be a fair comparison, but I wouldn’t want to feel like I spent so much on a Tiger when most of that was available for much less on a Himalayan.
Awfully refreshing conversation. But really enjoyed it.
The only person I was missing in the conversation was bigbearbanglore. That would be really awesome video with Abhinav n bigbearbanglore..
Been on the road with the Himalayan since January have already done 9000kms on it covered northeast and currently in Nepal. I’ve been running tubeless conversion from speedmonks and have been doing heavy offroad with the conversion kit. It’s been working just fine
Hi Guys I am abhinav . Today we are at Speedmonks .. 🫣😆😆
This video excatly feels like , how me and my frds talk when we meet on night rides or Sunday rides
Ekdum perfect video hey bhai
Thanks bro. Hum ride karke aksar panchayat bitha te hai about bikes and cars .😀
I fu@king liked this video more than your usual videos. Pls have more such chill talk videos. They are quite insightful.
Why are you constantly interupting the guy with beard!? He is saying some real things.
At 4L we get a machine with all problems:
Nut bolt falling apart
Heating issue
Fit and finish not good at all
ENGINE IS NOT AT ALL REFINED
Which Single Cylinder bike is refined?
@@PrashantEM7 r15 ,cb350, suzuki250 etc
@@ATaleofCreation do you know bigger the cc of a single cylinder the more unrefined it gets. Also The bikes you mentioned have been in production since ages.. their engines have gone through so much that engineers have made them smooth with time. This is the first Liquid cooled and a brand new engine. I myself was an Anti RE person till RE came up with Interceptor and followed by rest bikes.
This bike may not be perfect now but it's offering is way ahead of it's time and price.
Great conversation even without beer, I wonder what those must be like with 😅
coffee works wonders!!
That should be fun .. 🤩
They should give adjustable suspension as a power part
The more raw the video is, the more authentic it feels
Guy's loved this format. Candid Honest....any true motorcycle lover will absolutely enjoy this 😊
Bonnie T100/120 me CC seperately lagane ke 10k lagte the
Beauty of motorcyclist… eat and talk ❤
Really enjoyed started watching and completed in 1 shot, really enjoyed conversation and got good insight for Himalya. Thank you 😊
Maine Dekhe hain pura video… no fast forward… it was awesome and informative 🔥🤘🏼😈🙏🏼❤️
Thanks and cheers !
I am an owner of Adv 390 since Jan 2023 and was planning of selling this and getting the himalayan 450. I took a test ride for 4-5kms after its launch and immediately felt disconnected from the motorcycle. I felt there was a lag between my input to the handle and the wheel response.
No matter how much you mod and praise this, the basic foundations cannot be changed. The floating foot pegs are disappointing. The vibes from engine are not in sync with the ones you feel on the foot pegs (and handlebar if any).
Apart from this, I do not witness Himalayan 450’s on the streets as much I had expected.
If you have to keep your mobile’s screen on the entire time to have the GPS work on the console, why have that feature and pay more for it?
My fellow riders who own it have mentioned that the motorcycle peaks in vibes at the absolute cruising speed of 90-110 kmph.
I own 3 motorcycles which have been extensively ridden, the penultimate being a RE TB350, I feel himalayan 450 is not worthy upgrading for anyone looking at it being as a perfect mid segment adventure motorcycle.
Moreover with the after sales perspective, the mechanics at RE are just well versed with UCE engines and little do they know about the 650 twins and the least about sherpa 450’s.
**THIS 450 IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THE ‘D’ IN THE DAKAR**
Anything appreciable - Golden Rims 😁😂
The Himalayan 450 is definitely not perfect but neither is the 390 Adventure. Besides the Himalayan 450, there is no other true adventure bike on the market that offers this level of off road hardware up to 4 lakh rupees. The 390 Adventure is street biased while the Himalayan is off road biased. Since I own a 390 Duke Gen 2, the 390 Adventure is not an upgrade at all but the Himalayan sure seems like it. I found its handling to be really good but KTM is simply the king of handling. I agree on the service aspect, though. I plan on buying this bike after the initial issues have sorted out but I am waiting for the 390 Enduro that was spied recently. That should be the best option for off road use.
PS: The GPS feature is there on all the variants of the Himalayan so you're not paying more for it. The Himalayan starts at the same price as the 390 Adventure X so you are definitely getting a lot more for your money - off road wheels and suspension, full screen navigation and a bigger tank. Meanwhile, the standard variant of the 390 Adv is simply overpriced for what it offers when the X variant has all one needs.
@@twowheeledparadox Agreed!
Great discussion and more or less the feedback is same across all purchases till date. Loving every bit of the new Himalayan
Yes, true
I watched the complete video, it was fun and candid
Thanks for taking out time bro. Appreciate 👍
Abhinav is a fucking legend 🙌🏼
Hi guys, there an option in console to switch between remaining distance or ETA to the destination
how did you guys get the cross spoke himalayan 450s
Stole it , they’d showed the video also
I agree with what Abhinav said on cruise control.
If the company has developed riding modes then they should have given it... Instead of working on riding modes they should have given cruise control instead....
The video length is just fine. Should've let abhinav speak.
Cruise control is available even on the tvs 310
Watched till the end. Aap logo ki baaton mein time kaise nikal gya pta hi nahi chla 😂.
One complaint though, Yudhveer sir ko bolne hi nahi aap ne 😂😂
Will definitely get him more into conversation next time
It was really an informative video I am so happy too to hear this as these talks are real.
Happy to hear that. Thank you
Cheers bro. Thanks for watching
Beautiful chemistry between groups
Just some weekend fun chat 😀
When I ride my Himalayan 450 with pillion rider i feel slightly pain on my left hand wrist i think might be back suspension gets down that's why.. when I ride alone i really enjoy my riding...
absolutely love this video, I would have watched even if this was 3 hour long
It’s a nice bike good value I like it ,I have a comment for Royal Enfield you need a lowering kit for this 450 bike as thousands of people are missing out due to. Seat hight especially in Asia at the lowest of 805 still to high for some riders ,in comparison Honda Brough their 300 rally out the seat hight was to high for shorter riders so Honda brought out a lower version the SLS so I bought one thi is what Royal Enfield could do to cater for thousands of shorter riders but like Honda retain the same engine just make the suspension a little shorter ,then I would up grade to a 450 along with many others ,jimmy Australia
As a fellow biker, enjoyed your debate
AB comes across as Apologist in Chief, RE..
I fail to understand what the tech challenge is in developing a spoked tubeless...patent may be process & material specefic, why cant alternatives be developed?
Thanks for enjoyable conversation.
Loved the discussion,watched the whole video without skipping any part
Thanks bro for taking out time
Great sharing among 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Ref timeline 30min onwds... regarding tubeless options...My point is, why the hell can't RE launch a tubeless alloy as an option...?? Leave it to the buyer, whether to go for tubed spoke wheels or tubeless alloys🤷 And when the cross spoked issue is resolved, tab dekhi jayegi spoked tubeless chapter ..what says?
One of the enjoyable video till now.
Glad you liked it .
Is there an unedited version?
Any updates on himalyan tubless variant
Motorinc ke baad se aisi conversations have become such a palatable experience regarding motorcycling.. reviews can be like this and not just motovlogging ones. Missed your session in Noida Triumph, hope it was a good one. I have been a speaker for 390 ADV a couple of times. Abhinav is super committed and love his enthu, really admire his love for motorcycling. But utna factual nahi hai, hypothesis are less educated than assumed. thanks for this video.
Thanks tarun
12:53 ok, so trade off with what exactly ?
Best video(Podcast ) love it
Just loved this video.. please make more long podcast 😅
The best part was the looll foot pegs 😂😂, o man. And besides these kind of videos actually make you think how many years of riding experience he has under the belt. So actually going to fat bobs and triumphs too appreciate heating issues, people should go back and ride the right foot shifter standard 350. Then better ride electric if u need mileage and no engine vibration 😂😂😂. Yudhveer maza aagaya on your comments, seat ko bhi loolll hone do. Abhinav thoda khadus laga bhai, 😂😂😂i have been seeing his videos for more than a year on and off. And last but giod job to the guy who moderated this, good patience, i guess you are beat buddies, video ded ghante ka nahi hua, netflix ke liye😂😂😂😂
"Kiska phone hai yeh?", "Thod do" 😂
😀😀 arey mera hai.. maaf karo
This means I have booked a Perfect bike 🔥🌼
Except Looling 😂
😂😂😂.. Looling
well, good review, the bike is also decent - I am saying this from my own experience, as I also own the 450 himmy. HOWEVER, when you say, pyaar karo na RE ko, that comes from overall customer experience. & RE service centers are HORRIBLE at it. For example, as much great & God level the bike suspension is, when you have to run to the RE service center for 6 months, 2-3 times every week & still they are unable to solve the issue of an annoying sound which comes from the front end of the bike (even after you complaining to RE helpline), then you definitely have a pain in the bum & the issues start creeping up.
As I also have another bike from Kawasaki, where I never faced these kind of issues. I am not criticizing the author here for anything, it's a genuinely good review about the bike & I agree to all of it. All I am saying is - Royal Enfield has become stubborn & arrogant towards it's customers because a lot of people are not ready to call out RE for their below par service centers & the after sales services & RE has been enjoying that cult following for years despite their poor after sales services.
Also, the tubeless spoke wheels, while they are easily exporting the same to outside India, we still don't have them. even though RE says there are govt approval issues, i think they should have taken those approvals before launching the bike, & honestly, even if they didn't do that by then & they wanted to see the public reaction to Himalayan 450 before getting the tubeless spoke wheels, RE should have had it for us, atleast as an accessory by now, because people did trust RE when they claimed that they would get the tubeless spoke wheels really soon - that's how a lot of us pre-booked the bike. It's a pain to fix a tube tyre in the middle of nowhere as & when it gets flat. Anyway, you are a group of influencers. RE doesn't bother about us aam janta, but if you wish to push the feedback to RE, please do. the sooner they come with the Tubeless Spoke wheels, is would be easier for all the travelers like us.
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fun video bro, amazing convo, make more such video
Thank you, I will
I loved the video, make long videos but make it on a hot topic like this one you've made...
Noted!
Fun to watch ❤
What a fun conversation!
Cheers !
One More Negative That Royal Enfield Application should have Map Offline Map Downloading Option.
The Screen of cluster is not anti scratch.
Contact Name is not sync.
Headlight Sucks.
20:59
Dude, it might not be a con for you, but for those with a day job and only weekends in the wilderness, buzzing hands kill all the enthusiasm to take the ride out. It is definitely a con. We ride XPulse, Himalyan 411 and Svartpilen 401, and the refinement of the Himalayan (or RE in general) leaves a sour taste in mouth. How's it a touring bike when it starts to vibrate at 90-110kmph?
Everything is right in its place but लूल लूलू is ultimate😂😂😂😂
Lool Pegs😆
very good and informative discussion 😇
Thanks ..
2:16
Which brand free flow air filter
And what is decat bike ?
Do not know about the filter brand,
And you misheard decat bike instead of decat pipe, its a middle part in the whole exhaust assembly.
Thank you @@murtaza2116
Awesome video
Nice Chatter guys... nJoy. I would love to catchup with you guys whenever I come to delhi. This is a good bike for sure I have already done 3.5K.
1. About the buzz from single cylinder.. just use a NoNoise Ear plug. it helps and feels like Honda.. trust me
2. The position of pass light is actually a real problem as you always tend to reach out to front for pass light in emergency.
3. In my case I accidentally press the clutch often... or it could be that there is lag between throttle and clutch. I am not sure whether I explained well... but there is such an issue.
4. Sometimes you got to drop the gear down in tricky situations... I have got fuelxPro Plus now... and after installing that I hope this should be resolved.
5. The touring Wind screen is not good enough after 100 it just tries to blow you off.. all other aftermarket options looks ugly...
Glad you liked it.
Avinav is yolo ing his life with sakht mard mindset 😂😂😂😂
Use bolne do yaar 😂
English subtitles would be appreciated bro
Do you know guys from when cross spoke variants are available on the market please reply
No idea bro
I had a Classic 500 and anyone who complains about vibrations seems like a spoilt brat to me. 😂
BTW, the ktm 390 adv is also very bad with vibrations but I think it's fashion to bash RE just for views.
I agree. I have a 390 Duke Gen 2 (BS4) and the engine is nowhere near as smooth as the J-series 350, the BS6 411 and the 650 twin. The 450 engine is somewhat comparable in terms of refinement to the 390 even though it has a 20 mm longer stroke.
Maine dekh lia poora maja aagya 🤘🤘🤘
Bhai thanks itna lamba video jhelne ke liye
@@Twenty3Rides haha jhelna nhi this kind of videos are so good then those videos for views
Poora dekh liya, pata nahi chala kab nikal gya. Petition for you guys to start a podcast.
You guys just made my day... Superb conversation with information, please keep it raw the next time
Sure thing. Glad you enjoyed it.
bakchodi with friends, never ending saga
Yep
Believe it or not lot of new bikers people in India are pretend to be bikers thn real one. So they ll complaint about heat n every very basic biking things.
Royal Enfield is nothing but just like a Geometric segregation of motorcyclist enthusiasms ❤️
😀😀😀
This abhinav .. would never accept even a single cons of the bike...not even one? Wow ..how much have royal Enfield paid you ??
The longer the better.
Ahemm.....
Maza aaya 👏🏼
Dhanyawaad
TVS gives Cruise Control..
Honda Highness 350 cc single cylinder long stroke doesn't vibrate , Avinav , Honda is Honda 🤣🤣🤣
There is only one guy he buy first and start criticising. Even interceptor he done same. Now he is doing same with himalayan
Who is that guy ??
@@Twenty3Rides bullu biker. He buy RE than start criticise and sell. Now he bought triumph 400 he had criticised himalyan 450. Now will sell himalyan. I dnt understand why he buy RE product then criticise and sold
36:50 Your point is valid to not expect cruise control in sub 3.5 lakh but heres a thought.... Ola gave cruise control on freaking scoooter🤡
Thats crazy good..
For yudir.
Only the #bullu feels the vibration because of which he bought a Honda NX worth Rs 776000. 😂
😀😀😀.. himalayan cant be compared with Nx400.. Its a twin cylinder motorcycle and costs 4 lacs more
@@Twenty3Rides But Bullu Bhai likes Honda and he is a little biased towards Royal Enfield.
😂 41:28
In case you find the seat uncomfortable or hurting get your butts checked, the problem can be your butt instead of the seat. 😂
😀😀
Really liked the video,
But why this topi-Ganja Person so arrogant and rude to everyone.. He said "Fuck the people to audience"
Bro you are in the entertaining industry learn to respect people.
And that person only wants to speak and not even listen to anyone. The other person said 30-40k cost of Rims,, after unnecessary 5 minute explaination said the same thing, really not required this arguing and disresptecting everyone.
I really appreciate everyone else.
Keep making more videos not to buy one. Me 6 mahine bad kharidneka sochunga. 😅
u shud do these podcast kind of videos more
Definitely bro
Hmm.. auto-translate would have been nice..🤔🧐
Not sure how I can enable that.. But we will do next on in english.
Vibrations hai: chalta hai. It's an RE. Heating hai: Chalta hai it's an RE. Cone set noise hai: itna toh expected hai. Tubeless tyres nahi hai: chalta hai. Itna toh adjust karna hi hoga. 😂. If sab kuch chalta hai after paying 3-4 lakhs for a bike. I guess CT100 should work better. The frustrations you face after buying an RE are endless. Especially if you are a person who doesn't want to get his/her hands dirty to solve those issues. Nobody talks about these in real life. Feels like my dishwasher. Half the time I need to clean the outlets, wipe the walls to remove odor etc so that it works properly. I am better off washing utensils with my hands. The reason you buy a product is for convenience and enjoyment. Not to add another layer of complexity to your already complex 9-5 life.
Except for the cone set, the top variant of the 390 Adventure (direct competitor) has all those problems - vibes, heating and tubes. And that bike is about 1 lakh more expensive than this one. But it's KTM so "chalta hai".
@@twowheeledparadox I own a KTM and my friend owns a Meteor and except for vibrations, haven't experienced anything else on the KTM. Plus the after sales team is such a delight to communicate with. With the RE, just forget that.
@@virajvrooms Tubes - I'm pretty sure the SW variant of the 390 Adv comes with tubes in the tyres.
Heating - most people who complain about heating come from 100 cc bikes. Heat emission from KTM's 373 cc hasn't gone down, especially with leaner fueling for BS4/6 norms. It's just that the hot air flow is better managed now for rider comfort. I guess the Himalayan is the same on that front.
After sales - I assume you are referring to service. On that point, I totally agree. The experience varies. My old 200 Duke has been going to the same KTM technician for 12 years now. He was the one who rebuilt its engine twice and then installed the new one in my bike in the first 1.5 years of ownership. KTM first batch issues were horrible. My 390 is a late batch model so it has been largely trouble-free. In RE, such highly skilled mechanics are rare.
Vibrations - yeah, we agree here. The interesting thing is that the Himalayan has a 21 mm longer stroke than the KTM 390 Adv and yet the vibes are comparable.
@@twowheeledparadox Bottom line is KTM Adv is much easy bike to live with. The global community is so strong that you have long list of DIYs. I managed to fit the 790 s cruise control on my 390 ADV.
@@virajvrooms Yes, six years after the 390 engine was launched, they alleviated the infamous coolant-oil mixing issue. KTM bikes have become easy to live with now. KTM and RE are more or less at par when it comes to issues in early batches. Both have become better than before. Is the long list of DIYs for repairs or mods? The Himalayan seems to need little to no modification. The cruise control is a great addition but my experience with KTM electrics tells me not to mess with them too much. I wouldn't do so with RE either. To me, it's a nice-to-have. Bottom-line is that the Himalayan has all the essentials sorted for an adventure bike. The 390 Adventure is a good tourer but not really made to be an adventure bike. Until the new 390 Adventure and Enduro hit the market, the Himalayan seems to be the best adv bike under 4 lakh rupees.
Brother Srinivas, thodi chhaati taano aur daadiwale Abhinav se mat daro.
bajaj triumph 1200😂