OMG Saffy...this review brought up so many great insights into the tech that I am 100% sure no other "Bike reviewers" have even touched on! This is amazing!
It was hard to summarise! It's a lot more complex than I made it sound! I tried to make it as easy to understand as I could! I'm sure my terminology isn't the best, but the general principles are there and the tech behind the RE bike is far greater than it's getting credit for!!!
Hi Saffy Great review, I enjoyed your explanation of the tech for us low tech riders😂. I’ve always ridden Triumphs but really like the RE range of bikes (mainly for their simplicity) . Test rode a classic 350 and loved it, so was glad you found that non of the tech distracted you. The fact the TFT dash is round probably makes it more acceptable to my analog brain😂!
@saffy this was so perfect, thank you. I am a novice, 5'7 and just bought one then freaked out watching dude reviews that i'd made a rookie error so this has totally calmed me and made me super excited again. So great to have this content and loved how you set it up at the beginning so the audience knew exactly what they were getting.
Gawdayuuum, after seeying so many reviews of the new Himmy, and i'm talking about a LOT of reviews, you still managed to sneak in things I didn't know and didn't even consider! Serious props for that! Add to the bunch the last 4 part videos and idk what to say! Seriously well done, I mean it!
@@SaffySprocket No worries! Also (and sorry for making another comment) since you mentioned your love for gadgets, tech and gizmos, it got me wondering if making videos focussing on said gadgets, like android auto screens or whatever, would be something on your radar?
I'm a dinosaur, been riding for a long time. I would say the best thing for you right now would be weight training. If you want to ride off road and enjoy it you need to be stronger and there's only one way to do that. Get on the weights: with more muscle on your frame your potential will expand massively and even when you fall off (as we all do, repeatedly) it won't hurt so much. It will also make you more comfortable on long rides. Men are lucky, we're naturally bigger and stronger, but if you train you can match us and even beat us - good female riders seem to have exceptional balance. Good luck.
@@ollygibson8397 No I didn't, I saw her being blown off a stationary Honda in Norway and breaking several ribs, and then looking rather vulnerable off road on the Enfield and I was a little concerned about her prospects.
Look around Noraly - I bet she doesn’t do weights - she has upper body strength and a bit of bulk from riding - it’s just practice that makes you good… practice and you get better! A lovely enthusiastic review!
I prefer my current lookswise but would love the extra oomf. But am keeping my 2023 to learn maintenance. Hopefully can add a second bike soon. I passed my test year before the new Himmy came out, would have been a no brainer for me as a first bike. (I couldnt wait). I think anyone who is looking at an adv for first bike the new Himmy has to be in top 3. Miles of smiles!
Looks like you are having a great time :) What you find with these sorts of new adventures is you continue to learn and benefit from them even long after the ride it self has ended. Keep smiling
Great review of the bike. The best for me is how comfy and happy you were with the bike. The questions are, was it easy to ride, was the bike fun to ride, did the bike make you happy and make you smile a lot even in terrain you were not accustomed to. The answer to all previous questions is YES. I deduce from this that you should just bite the bullet and get yourself one it's obvious to me that you really really like the Himalayan 450. As always great video keep up the great work.
Excellent Saffron.. you've been there, done it and got the Tee shirt.. got too love ya' lass. Stunning Bike greatly improved, as a whole it has what the 411 sadly lacked in the first place, yet here again its a ground up build by design for a given purpose. Am I sold on one, I'll not change out my 411as it offer all I need, plus given prices have Plummeted. Two things I see with the 452 is it's tank off to get to the Air filter-check-clean-change, is that something everyone could do each time and combined indicator/tail/stop light, should one take either out in a drop/catch, you're left wanting any form of light..! Great as always. Cheers
Hi Saffy you covered all the points on the bike which gave a broad points that will suit a lot of people who are looking for a bike like this . Off road riding will give you all the skills that will come out automatically with out you knowing it when your in a situation. What ever bike you buy & it makes you smile that's the bike that is going to make your adventures the best ones . So just send it no time to waste lifes for living. Rolley. :)
Super review Saffy, the Himalayan is a very compelling bike! I love the idea that google maps is inbuild too, my Triumph Street Triple does integrate with maps, but its turn by turn only. I love a good map and this bike certainly gets the geeky side of my attention! I think the power output going up really will help this bike and as someone who has never tried an adventure bike, its tempting to pick one up in a few years! I like that its light at 200kg, I hate heavy bikes. I'm lucky that i'm tall though and have no issues with seat height at 5ft 11in.
Great video. Would love to see a video concentrated on the tripper dash and the phone call and txt integration as well as maps. Sounds like something you're keen on as well. Keep up the great work.
Saffy I loved you geeking out on this bike, as a techy myself, I love this that the TFT is google ready, as you know with Android phones they are very easily hacked and upgraded, this would suggest that there could be some tweaking involved with the display and what you can do with this screen. I hope Royal Enfield give you one of these on a long term loan, as you seem to really love this bike for what it is and how easy it was to ride and use, especially after the mishap in Norway, this appeared to give you some of your confidence back which is great to see.
Love the review saffy, we should see if someone is travelling from Norway to the UK and is able to recover your bike. That's stuck there so you can move no and get a new himalayan to ride. ❤
Hello Sa Nice and Excellent Review you have made for Royal Enfield Himalayan 450.I liked your video and Royal Enfield Himalayan 450🇬🇧 is one of the best motorcycles for Long Distance tours and best mid range adventure motorcycles in the world 🌎
If your seat was adjustable between 805 and 825 mm, you must have had the low seat option (standard is 825 to 845), which is interesting because the availability of the low seat has so far been very limited. When I last looked, it was not a configurable option for UK- or Australian-based buyers. I'm so keen on this bike, but being somewhat vertically challenged, the low seat would be a necessity for me.
Honestly, I’m 5ft 9, and can ride a seat height of 929mm… I can’t get both of my feet flat to the ground, but it doesn’t matter - left on the ground and the right on the peg. Once you’ve done it for awhile, it becomes 2nd nature🤘🏾
Congratulations Royal Enfield! 🎉 I don't like the traditional RE look but love this evolution 😍 Great, personal, review, Saffy - love the way you use annotations Pairing your phone is a non issue for me. Buy a cheap, refurbed, 2nd phone from a major reseller, just for the RE app (I'm just buying another one using moneysaving experts phone comparison). If the soft lock doesn't turn off the display after a time, use a black picture as the background wallpaper, dial down brightness & contrast. Perhaps it would make sense for RE to do a deal with a major supplier and supply one (unsimmed) ? And let the graphics team loose, to make a unique RE phone cover.
Well done Saffy. I tried to keep up with the Tech explanation (phones and apps etc) but I am the wrong generation to understand it. Nice to know you are 5'7". There should be more like you. Stay safe.
Quite honestly, I think the 452 Himie is the best looking of the current ADV bikes. Seen from the side, the angle of the tank and its shape and the general silhouette remind me of the first Yamaha XT500, a classic off-raod bike line. I especially like its front, that it doesen't make the same peeved-alien-insect face all others have. It also looks way way better than the 411 to me. The 411 has its agricultural charme, but that is what it looks like: Agricultural. The 452 looks faster and sturdier when standing already. I really lie it.
Nice, honest review. It does look like a great bike, engine will be bullet proof as well. Will probably be ok for me, even at 6'5. Whats actually happening with your other bike? Are you still planning on getting back here or flying to Norway and ride it back?
2:44 Sherpas are actually people not animals(I know you said ethnic group but you pointed towards animals so I'm just making it clear). They mostly carry all their load on their own backs, sometimes even a person. So in some cases they carry around 100kgs on their freakin back. They are amazing.
Definition of an Ethnic Group: A group of people who share a similar culture (beliefs, values, and behaviors), language, religion, ancestry, or other characteristic that is often handed down from one generation to the next. You wouldn't use such a phrase to refer to animals 😅
It's truly amazing how Royal Enfield was able to make a new 450 single weigh almost as much as a 750 twin Honda Transalp. Other than price I can't imagine why anyone would want this thing.
Less electronics, easier to repair, better weight distribution, less agressive rider aids, much, much more intuitive to operate AND the price. Recently a friend with a Transalp and I rode a very curvy road pretty quick, but every time he braked hard into a corner his emergency light went off. This alone is a reason to stay away from such a patronising vehicle, if you drive behind that thing you´re contantly getting distracted - a real bummer.
It's really important for all potential buyers to test this bike, I was so disappointed with it that I cancelled my order. I wanted a single cylinder machine as a weekend plaything, but the vibration is just too much, the seat is too hard for more that an hour.
@SaffySprocket yes, been riding for 40 years and have ridden so many bikes. Wanted to go back to a single for weekend use to give me some of the character my Aprilia 660 single had. The engine feels more 125, than 450. Vibrations are not an issue, unless they become a invasive as they are on this bike. The chassis, suspension, tft and fit and finish are all great. Off road it's obviously perfect.
@@virajvroomsvibrations are so subjective, I don't mind them unless they cause issues on long rides. The seat is so hard too. Really important that potential owners test ride this bike!
@@jimmyjam8795 Thanks. You seem to be the first one whom I agree with. The youtubers are going gaga about this bike like there is no other option. It might be a good bike off road but doesn't fit the bill of being an all rounder. I was able to have a closer look at the upcoming KTM 390 ADV test mule here in Pune, India. It's leaps and bounds ahead of the RE.
Great review! Very thorough even the google map/cell phone situation kinda sorta made sense to my Luddite leaning Boomer brain.. Sounds like RE has a winner on their hands! the 450 and you! Great Video!
It's difficult to explain the tech, there are days even I am trying to wrap my head around it, but the general principles are there :-) I saw a lot of criticism about the lack of android auto or Waze compatibility but actually taking the route that RE is using means they get access to much better results for consumers!
I see you've fixed/replaced your glasses! Hey what ear plugs were you wearing in Sardinia and how do you rate them? Thanks for the multiparty review. I'm waiting impatiently for mine to arrive in New Zealand.
I feel like it probably needs some crash bars & maybe a doubletake mirror upgrade but otherwise this looks like a great laid-back beginner friendly manual bike.
Sorry Saffy 19:28 wrong info here unless RE decided to rebuild the system for the UK! The device doesnt have built-in maps. Niether does it have the processing power to run an apk based Android app. You need the RE app on your cell phone that uses the google maps api again in your cellphone to mirror your mobile screen on the round dash. It's a simple tech that cars already have. The problem with RE app though is that your cell phone screen needs to stay on all the time which drains the battery super fast, heats your cell phone in a way your pockets get warm. Practically, defies the very reason why it was made. Eliminate wires and allow riders to keep their cell phones free form interference while Touring without draining the batteries
Over heating is one issue but this will be resolved with the patch my main issue was the security problems and screen burn because I have an OLED phone. The screen does run off Android and uses APK files :) the tech team confirmed it when I asked, it is integrated with maps to avoid the sever charges hence why android auto and Waze won't work on it!
@@SaffySprocket Unsure about that Saffy. Google charges manufacturers for Google Automotive Services (GAS). Which as you shared RE is not paying. So cost-wise it doesn't really make sense having an Android on board without Google services. You would need to fit a good processor and a RAM in that tiny dash. The RE guys might need some training from their nerdy IT Indian counterparts here 🤓. The dash is just a slave device. Your cell phone is still the master device on which your cellphone manufacturer is already paying Google for GMS. If at all the dash has Android in it, then rejoice. You should be able to install any third party map app to work natively. No need to mirror your cell phone. But I am having a hard time believing RE cracked something that even Germans or Japanese manufacturers couldn't especially at this price point 😉
@@farmoboy83 yep, 75hp which is more than I thought. Sprocket is only a few years old and I forgot as my DL650 is only 67hp but nearly 20 years old. I fancy getting into more off road riding but not sure if I can drop 27hp when nearly the same weight… test ride I guess. Would still love to know your thoughts Saffy 😊
@@cliff1551 "leave the lass alone"?? FFS. Do you know how sad you sound referring to her as "Saffron"? Obviously not. It's *you* that needs to grow up. She ain't gonna date you.
@@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne I no that you fool ,I just like content of vlogs ,I'm old enough to be saffrons father you goon ,don't judge anybody by your own demise mate ,now shut up and you'd better not break your curfew lol
Regarding the google maps, does it works with downloaded maps as I don’t have an abonnement or data ? This is a big gripe I have with Beeline Moto, it doesn’t work with downloaded maps so it cannot re-route.
@@SaffySprocket will do! I unfortunately am laid up after a lil argument with a car and my bike, and I was in the middle of the scuffle... Pelvis is a bit smashed up 😭🤣
The biggest problem with tech like the Google integration, is the like of longevity. This is true across all vehicles, cars are notorious for this. But think of this - most phones stop being realistically usable at 5+ years old, they stop getting updates, and by about 7 or 8 years old they can no longer use the latest apps. The average age of a motorbike on the roads in the UK today is 15 years old - does anybody honestly believe that this bike will still be getting updates that far into the future? I know no car of that age that keeps getting updates to it's on-board systems for that long.
Play the Sprocket game. You score: 10 points for all posts spotted where the person commenting calls her 'Saffy' 50 points (and Bromide for the poster) for all those who use 'Saffron'...
Great concept but RE would have been smarter to lose the tech stuff and make the bike lighter, 200kg wet is 5 Kg less than a T7, and dare I say 60kg heavier than a DRZ 400E and has the same power as a DRZ along with less capable suspension. It is also 40KG heavier than the DR650, if that is progress I will live without it.
It's not the tech that adds weight though..🧐 As I understand it, it's quite easy to shave 20 Kg off it's dry weight, after that, you might have to make harder choices when reducing the weight, but reducing by 30 Kg still shouldn't cost a lot. That would put it at 150 Kg dry..🤨
You have to remember this thing is built like a brick. No doubt in my mind if you ripped the crash protection off, you'd have a lighter bike. It's solid AF. How often do we weigh bikes after all the after market crap we put on, at least RE are being transparent about the weight :-)
@@SaffySprocket There's an indian guy who modified some stuff on the 450 he uses.. Got it down to just over 160 Kg dry... Put the tankguards back, & ended up at about 164 Kg right now... There's still a lot he could change on that bike though.. The solution fixing the windshield/headlight etc to the bike is largely made of stamped soft steel.. Create one using carbon fibre & titanium, & you'll probably save 2-3 Kg.. The tank guards are made of soft steel aswell, & weigh in at 3 Kg.. Make them out of aluminium instead, & you'll half that weight.. & all that at one of the highest points of the bike.. There's plenty of weight savings to be made
You are so beautiful to me, a song by Joe Cocker, quite old like me, don't worry your safe, I speak the truth. The tank is 17lts I have heard, this bike has many reviews, to be honest I am considering getting one, my last bike was so fast it would maybe scare me today, perhaps not ! for all the reviews nobody has bought one yet, that would be most interesting. 🙂
I wish instead of apps they'd just use carplay/android auto, The app will be unupdated/dead in 5-10 years and any next owner of the bike will be screwed.
I think they moved the goal posts rather than killed it. As nice as my 411 himi is the new 450 is a totally different bike, they could have fiddled with the 411 but chose to start afresh after learning from their first adventure bike which is the best option going forward. Look at it this way it's better than a battery bike that we are going to have to buy in a while 😮 if the government has its way
OOOh Saffy.. 10mls/hour down a mountain ... Do you know how much control that takes.. The lads soaring down the mountain have a ton of basic physics (including the centre of mass gyroscope wheel mass )calculations working for them .. They are balancing a balloon on their palm compared to you balancing a pencil on your finger tip.. You are an absolute hero.. You keep saying no skill .. Slow riding needs way more skill and control.. WOWSERS SAFFFYY WEEE LOVVVEEE YUUUU🤓🤓💯❤🩹❤🩹❤🩹
OMG Saffy...this review brought up so many great insights into the tech that I am 100% sure no other "Bike reviewers" have even touched on! This is amazing!
It was hard to summarise! It's a lot more complex than I made it sound! I tried to make it as easy to understand as I could! I'm sure my terminology isn't the best, but the general principles are there and the tech behind the RE bike is far greater than it's getting credit for!!!
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Hi Saffy
Great review, I enjoyed your explanation of the tech for us low tech riders😂. I’ve always ridden Triumphs but really like the RE range of bikes (mainly for their simplicity) . Test rode a classic 350 and loved it, so was glad you found that non of the tech distracted you. The fact the TFT dash is round probably makes it more acceptable to my analog brain😂!
Tons of tech = tons of wiring problems etc.. No thank you I will take simplicity any day
@saffy this was so perfect, thank you. I am a novice, 5'7 and just bought one then freaked out watching dude reviews that i'd made a rookie error so this has totally calmed me and made me super excited again. So great to have this content and loved how you set it up at the beginning so the audience knew exactly what they were getting.
Gawdayuuum, after seeying so many reviews of the new Himmy, and i'm talking about a LOT of reviews, you still managed to sneak in things I didn't know and didn't even consider! Serious props for that! Add to the bunch the last 4 part videos and idk what to say! Seriously well done, I mean it!
🥰🥰🥰 thank you
@@SaffySprocket No worries! Also (and sorry for making another comment) since you mentioned your love for gadgets, tech and gizmos, it got me wondering if making videos focussing on said gadgets, like android auto screens or whatever, would be something on your radar?
I'm a dinosaur, been riding for a long time. I would say the best thing for you right now would be weight training. If you want to ride off road and enjoy it you need to be stronger and there's only one way to do that. Get on the weights: with more muscle on your frame your potential will expand massively and even when you fall off (as we all do, repeatedly) it won't hurt so much. It will also make you more comfortable on long rides. Men are lucky, we're naturally bigger and stronger, but if you train you can match us and even beat us - good female riders seem to have exceptional balance. Good luck.
Assume you are joking or aren’t familiar with Saffy’s background😂?
You realise she's a former weight lifter?
@@ollygibson8397 No I didn't, I saw her being blown off a stationary Honda in Norway and breaking several ribs, and then looking rather vulnerable off road on the Enfield and I was a little concerned about her prospects.
@@trailingarm63same
Look around Noraly - I bet she doesn’t do weights - she has upper body strength and a bit of bulk from riding - it’s just practice that makes you good… practice and you get better! A lovely enthusiastic review!
As it’s covered elsewhere, ‘sod the spec give me the tech’ review is great.
😂😂😂😂 Screaming!!! I love that! SOD THE SPEC, GIMME THE TECH! I'm stealing this!!!!
I prefer my current lookswise but would love the extra oomf. But am keeping my 2023 to learn maintenance.
Hopefully can add a second bike soon. I passed my test year before the new Himmy came out, would have been a no brainer for me as a first bike. (I couldnt wait).
I think anyone who is looking at an adv for first bike the new Himmy has to be in top 3. Miles of smiles!
Looks like you are having a great time :) What you find with these sorts of new adventures is you continue to learn and benefit from them even long after the ride it self has ended. Keep smiling
Yes that's true 🥰🥰🥰🥰
Great review of the bike. The best for me is how comfy and happy you were with the bike. The questions are, was it easy to ride, was the bike fun to ride, did the bike make you happy and make you smile a lot even in terrain you were not accustomed to. The answer to all previous questions is YES. I deduce from this that you should just bite the bullet and get yourself one it's obvious to me that you really really like the Himalayan 450. As always great video keep up the great work.
Great review, Saffy. 5 whole videos, the best review of the new Himalayan so far. Nice one 👍
You're too kind 😊😊😊😊
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Excellent Saffron.. you've been there, done it and got the Tee shirt.. got too love ya' lass.
Stunning Bike greatly improved, as a whole it has what the 411 sadly lacked in the first place, yet here again its a ground up build by design for a given purpose.
Am I sold on one, I'll not change out my 411as it offer all I need, plus given prices have Plummeted.
Two things I see with the 452 is it's tank off to get to the Air filter-check-clean-change, is that something everyone could do each time and combined indicator/tail/stop light, should one take either out in a drop/catch, you're left wanting any form of light..!
Great as always. Cheers
Hi Saffy you covered all the points on the bike which gave a broad points that will suit a lot of people who are looking for a bike like this . Off road riding will give you all the skills that will come out automatically with out you knowing it when your in a situation. What ever bike you buy & it makes you smile that's the bike that is going to make your adventures the best ones . So just send it no time to waste lifes for living.
Rolley. :)
10 points
Super review Saffy, the Himalayan is a very compelling bike! I love the idea that google maps is inbuild too, my Triumph Street Triple does integrate with maps, but its turn by turn only. I love a good map and this bike certainly gets the geeky side of my attention! I think the power output going up really will help this bike and as someone who has never tried an adventure bike, its tempting to pick one up in a few years! I like that its light at 200kg, I hate heavy bikes.
I'm lucky that i'm tall though and have no issues with seat height at 5ft 11in.
Great video. Would love to see a video concentrated on the tripper dash and the phone call and txt integration as well as maps. Sounds like something you're keen on as well. Keep up the great work.
Don't get me started 😂 I'd rip the thing apart and do a walkthrough if I ever got my hands on it 😂
@@SaffySprocket would love to know if it all works well enough to not quadlock the phone to the bike👍
Good review Saffy - very honest and keeping it real. Keep going! Have you ever considered more training like the IAM Roadsmart course maybe?
Tried a session, found it too stressful 😅
Great review, you raised points very relevant to me and not covered by any of the other reviews I've watched, Well done from me!!!!😎
Glad it was helpful! 🥰
From Australia
Great to have you back Staffy and to see you having fun riding again. Keep it up girl 😂👍.
Thank you! Will do!
10 points, even though you called her a dog. Her name is *saffy*
Thanks for the complete and comprehensive review of your new love 😂
there will be no surprises should I meet one in the near future, 😘🤗
My new love 😂😂😂😂
Saffy I loved you geeking out on this bike, as a techy myself, I love this that the TFT is google ready, as you know with Android phones they are very easily hacked and upgraded, this would suggest that there could be some tweaking involved with the display and what you can do with this screen. I hope Royal Enfield give you one of these on a long term loan, as you seem to really love this bike for what it is and how easy it was to ride and use, especially after the mishap in Norway, this appeared to give you some of your confidence back which is great to see.
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Love the review saffy, we should see if someone is travelling from Norway to the UK and is able to recover your bike. That's stuck there so you can move no and get a new himalayan to ride. ❤
Need to sort out the bike 🥰
great review .... go on get one , you know you want to : )
Don't teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeempt meeeeeeeeeeee
Hello Sa Nice and Excellent Review you have made for Royal Enfield Himalayan 450.I liked your video and Royal Enfield Himalayan 450🇬🇧 is one of the best motorcycles for Long Distance tours and best mid range adventure motorcycles in the world 🌎
Thank you so much 🙂
@@SaffySprocket most welcome 😁
Great review. Just picked up a trail bike myself this week, '24 WR450F
Good choice!
Good 👍 review staff ❤😊
If your seat was adjustable between 805 and 825 mm, you must have had the low seat option (standard is 825 to 845), which is interesting because the availability of the low seat has so far been very limited. When I last looked, it was not a configurable option for UK- or Australian-based buyers. I'm so keen on this bike, but being somewhat vertically challenged, the low seat would be a necessity for me.
Honestly, I’m 5ft 9, and can ride a seat height of 929mm… I can’t get both of my feet flat to the ground, but it doesn’t matter - left on the ground and the right on the peg. Once you’ve done it for awhile, it becomes 2nd nature🤘🏾
Congratulations Royal Enfield! 🎉
I don't like the traditional RE look but love this evolution 😍
Great, personal, review, Saffy - love the way you use annotations
Pairing your phone is a non issue for me. Buy a cheap, refurbed, 2nd phone from a major reseller, just for the RE app (I'm just buying another one using moneysaving experts phone comparison). If the soft lock doesn't turn off the display after a time, use a black picture as the background wallpaper, dial down brightness & contrast. Perhaps it would make sense for RE to do a deal with a major supplier and supply one (unsimmed) ? And let the graphics team loose, to make a unique RE phone cover.
You're overthinking it, the security patch will be here before the end of the quarter. Just need to be patient:-)
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Well done Saffy. I tried to keep up with the Tech explanation (phones and apps etc) but I am the wrong generation to understand it. Nice to know you are 5'7". There should be more like you. Stay safe.
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Quite honestly, I think the 452 Himie is the best looking of the current ADV bikes. Seen from the side, the angle of the tank and its shape and the general silhouette remind me of the first Yamaha XT500, a classic off-raod bike line. I especially like its front, that it doesen't make the same peeved-alien-insect face all others have.
It also looks way way better than the 411 to me. The 411 has its agricultural charme, but that is what it looks like: Agricultural. The 452 looks faster and sturdier when standing already.
I really lie it.
I never really thought of it as an agricultural looking bike but that's actually a perfect description for it!!!
@@SaffySprocket …and if I fix that typo in my original post andedit the "lie" to "like", I lose Sprockerella's heart! 😫
looks like you have found your perfect bike, very obviously fallen in love with with the new himmy
I really did 😅 but I need to be good! Need to sort out my CB500x first
Nice, honest review. It does look like a great bike, engine will be bullet proof as well. Will probably be ok for me, even at 6'5. Whats actually happening with your other bike? Are you still planning on getting back here or flying to Norway and ride it back?
The other bike is enroute home!
2:44 Sherpas are actually people not animals(I know you said ethnic group but you pointed towards animals so I'm just making it clear). They mostly carry all their load on their own backs, sometimes even a person. So in some cases they carry around 100kgs on their freakin back. They are amazing.
Definition of an Ethnic Group: A group of people who share a similar culture (beliefs, values, and behaviors), language, religion, ancestry, or other characteristic that is often handed down from one generation to the next.
You wouldn't use such a phrase to refer to animals 😅
It's truly amazing how Royal Enfield was able to make a new 450 single weigh almost as much as a 750 twin Honda Transalp. Other than price I can't imagine why anyone would want this thing.
You have to ride it to understand
Less electronics, easier to repair, better weight distribution, less agressive rider aids, much, much more intuitive to operate AND the price. Recently a friend with a Transalp and I rode a very curvy road pretty quick, but every time he braked hard into a corner his emergency light went off. This alone is a reason to stay away from such a patronising vehicle, if you drive behind that thing you´re contantly getting distracted - a real bummer.
Hi from India,
Good to see genuine review about H450
Very good review (helpful feedback:- any background music is distracting and completely unnecessary with a factual dialogue)
Thank you 😊
Great review, thanks for sharing!
No problemo :-)
Great review Saffy! Safe rides!
Thank you so much 😊😊😊😊
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It's really important for all potential buyers to test this bike, I was so disappointed with it that I cancelled my order. I wanted a single cylinder machine as a weekend plaything, but the vibration is just too much, the seat is too hard for more that an hour.
Really? You found it disappointing? Oh no way! I loved it 😅😅😅
We Indians are used to Japanese manufacturers historically. Vibrations for us is Character for the west 😀
@SaffySprocket yes, been riding for 40 years and have ridden so many bikes. Wanted to go back to a single for weekend use to give me some of the character my Aprilia 660 single had. The engine feels more 125, than 450. Vibrations are not an issue, unless they become a invasive as they are on this bike. The chassis, suspension, tft and fit and finish are all great. Off road it's obviously perfect.
@@virajvroomsvibrations are so subjective, I don't mind them unless they cause issues on long rides. The seat is so hard too. Really important that potential owners test ride this bike!
@@jimmyjam8795 Thanks. You seem to be the first one whom I agree with. The youtubers are going gaga about this bike like there is no other option. It might be a good bike off road but doesn't fit the bill of being an all rounder. I was able to have a closer look at the upcoming KTM 390 ADV test mule here in Pune, India. It's leaps and bounds ahead of the RE.
Great review! Very thorough even the google map/cell phone situation kinda sorta made sense to my Luddite leaning Boomer brain.. Sounds like RE has a winner on their hands! the 450 and you! Great Video!
It's difficult to explain the tech, there are days even I am trying to wrap my head around it, but the general principles are there :-) I saw a lot of criticism about the lack of android auto or Waze compatibility but actually taking the route that RE is using means they get access to much better results for consumers!
I see you've fixed/replaced your glasses! Hey what ear plugs were you wearing in Sardinia and how do you rate them? Thanks for the multiparty review. I'm waiting impatiently for mine to arrive in New Zealand.
Great review Ms Saffy. : ) Have you ridden a Ducati Scrambler Desert Sled? I see some similarities with the Himalayan and the DS.
It's one on the list!
I feel like it probably needs some crash bars & maybe a doubletake mirror upgrade but otherwise this looks like a great laid-back beginner friendly manual bike.
There's a lot of add-ons for crash bars :-)
Excellent review.
Glad you liked it!
Top heavy? Have you been on a Multistrada 1260 Enduro? Especially when it's full of 30 litres of fuel, is your bike still in Norway?
Some riders are reporting vibes at higher road speeds , did you get a chance to do any faster road riding, and how did you find the vibrations?
I was speeding on the road later on, I didn't notice anything! But I do a lot of miles all the time, maybe I've tuned it out?
Love your videos saffy your brilliant 😘
You score 10 points
Thank you so much 😊😊😊
Got in for the bike fell in love with u
I really did!
Sorry Saffy 19:28 wrong info here unless RE decided to rebuild the system for the UK! The device doesnt have built-in maps. Niether does it have the processing power to run an apk based Android app. You need the RE app on your cell phone that uses the google maps api again in your cellphone to mirror your mobile screen on the round dash. It's a simple tech that cars already have. The problem with RE app though is that your cell phone screen needs to stay on all the time which drains the battery super fast, heats your cell phone in a way your pockets get warm. Practically, defies the very reason why it was made. Eliminate wires and allow riders to keep their cell phones free form interference while Touring without draining the batteries
Over heating is one issue but this will be resolved with the patch my main issue was the security problems and screen burn because I have an OLED phone. The screen does run off Android and uses APK files :) the tech team confirmed it when I asked, it is integrated with maps to avoid the sever charges hence why android auto and Waze won't work on it!
10 points.
@@SaffySprocket Unsure about that Saffy. Google charges manufacturers for Google Automotive Services (GAS). Which as you shared RE is not paying. So cost-wise it doesn't really make sense having an Android on board without Google services. You would need to fit a good processor and a RAM in that tiny dash. The RE guys might need some training from their nerdy IT Indian counterparts here 🤓. The dash is just a slave device. Your cell phone is still the master device on which your cellphone manufacturer is already paying Google for GMS. If at all the dash has Android in it, then rejoice. You should be able to install any third party map app to work natively. No need to mirror your cell phone. But I am having a hard time believing RE cracked something that even Germans or Japanese manufacturers couldn't especially at this price point 😉
@@virajvrooms another 10 points
Did you feel gearbox to be quite clunky during upshifts?? I experienced a false neutral as well during TD😅
Downshifts are smooth tho
Great review, balanced and helpful. How does it compare to your SV650? Do you miss the 25hp difference or does the Himalayan feel ample? Thank you 😊
more like 35hp difference...
@@farmoboy83 yep, 75hp which is more than I thought. Sprocket is only a few years old and I forgot as my DL650 is only 67hp but nearly 20 years old. I fancy getting into more off road riding but not sure if I can drop 27hp when nearly the same weight… test ride I guess. Would still love to know your thoughts Saffy 😊
Well done!
Thank you so much 😊😊😊
17:47 saffron lass❤ great review of an up and coming great bike thankyou x👋🤠👍
🥰🥰🥰🥰
"saffron lass"...FFS 50 points, 50 bonus points, and a double dose of bromide.
@@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne grow up mate ,leave the lass alone .
@@cliff1551 "leave the lass alone"?? FFS. Do you know how sad you sound referring to her as "Saffron"? Obviously not. It's *you* that needs to grow up. She ain't gonna date you.
@@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne I no that you fool ,I just like content of vlogs ,I'm old enough to be saffrons father you goon ,don't judge anybody by your own demise mate ,now shut up and you'd better not break your curfew lol
Which color looks best?
Regarding the google maps, does it works with downloaded maps as I don’t have an abonnement or data ? This is a big gripe I have with Beeline Moto, it doesn’t work with downloaded maps so it cannot re-route.
We're the same height so this would fit me n all.
Bit different to the custom bobbed Bullet 500 I had but you never know; may have a look at these
If you end up checking them out, let me know how it goes.
@@SaffySprocket will do! I unfortunately am laid up after a lil argument with a car and my bike, and I was in the middle of the scuffle...
Pelvis is a bit smashed up 😭🤣
to have good controle of the motor , try to make a U turn on a road of 24 feet ore better 20 feet of 6 meter
Hi there young Sprocket your definitely getting one soon 😂🎉
Have a ride throughout the high hills of himalyas ladakh lipulekh leh manli kashmir u Will be thrilled also the great pangong tso lake
Saf! How tall are you?
Will ik work with a iPhone good video
Yes :D!
The biggest problem with tech like the Google integration, is the like of longevity. This is true across all vehicles, cars are notorious for this. But think of this - most phones stop being realistically usable at 5+ years old, they stop getting updates, and by about 7 or 8 years old they can no longer use the latest apps. The average age of a motorbike on the roads in the UK today is 15 years old - does anybody honestly believe that this bike will still be getting updates that far into the future? I know no car of that age that keeps getting updates to it's on-board systems for that long.
RE should give cruise control on it
Play the Sprocket game. You score:
10 points for all posts spotted where the person commenting calls her 'Saffy'
50 points (and Bromide for the poster) for all those who use 'Saffron'...
How many do I get for "Sprockerella"?
😂
@@zweispurmopped As many as you like.....I suggest -5
@@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne I am a very negative person, negative times negative is positive, so Hah! 🥳
I actually wouldn’t use the app connectivity. Put a GPS mount on.
Defo upped their game to compete more with the 390 adventure.
They're really on the ball with this bike!
Great concept but RE would have been smarter to lose the tech stuff and make the bike lighter, 200kg wet is 5 Kg less than a T7, and dare I say 60kg heavier than a DRZ 400E and has the same power as a DRZ along with less capable suspension.
It is also 40KG heavier than the DR650, if that is progress I will live without it.
It's not the tech that adds weight though..🧐 As I understand it, it's quite easy to shave 20 Kg off it's dry weight, after that, you might have to make harder choices when reducing the weight, but reducing by 30 Kg still shouldn't cost a lot. That would put it at 150 Kg dry..🤨
@@leifiseland1218 I meant priority wise, spend the r&d on weight saving not gimmicks.
You have to remember this thing is built like a brick. No doubt in my mind if you ripped the crash protection off, you'd have a lighter bike. It's solid AF. How often do we weigh bikes after all the after market crap we put on, at least RE are being transparent about the weight :-)
@@SaffySprocket There's an indian guy who modified some stuff on the 450 he uses.. Got it down to just over 160 Kg dry... Put the tankguards back, & ended up at about 164 Kg right now... There's still a lot he could change on that bike though.. The solution fixing the windshield/headlight etc to the bike is largely made of stamped soft steel.. Create one using carbon fibre & titanium, & you'll probably save 2-3 Kg.. The tank guards are made of soft steel aswell, & weigh in at 3 Kg.. Make them out of aluminium instead, & you'll half that weight.. & all that at one of the highest points of the bike.. There's plenty of weight savings to be made
The weight includes the centre stand. Ditch that if you don’t need it for your type of riding
Keep the Honda. Saffy ❤I have the same one lol 😂 I’m slightly biased 🤪
10 points
You know you're going to end up getting one..🤪😇😎
😅😅😅😅 stooooooooop behaaaaaaave
Great bike but I’d prefer to got to Norway & get my Honda back.
all that and still they couldn't figure out how to keep the headlight pointing in the same direction as the forks😑
You mean you didn’t smuggle one home in your hand luggage ?! 😉🤪🤣😃🍻
I tried 😂😂😂😂
I run an eBay garmin that clamps to the bar. Always works, cost 35 bucks, phone can connect if I want. Stupid simple and no security risk.
Oooh I'll have to check it out
Pls correct your specs facts it's weights 196kgs and 17 ltr tank
What's a couple of digits between friends 😂😂😂😂
Saffron flavoured salt!
😂😂😂😂
50 points
That British accent tho... 😍 Le sigh.
Oh, and the bike too, of course. 😅 Great, comprehensive review Saffy. 😊🙌
Botelll owaaaata
😂🙌😎🥰🤣 well played.
@@Thisis100real 10 points
@@Thisis100real 10 points
You are so beautiful to me, a song by Joe Cocker, quite old like me, don't worry your safe, I speak the truth. The tank is 17lts I have heard, this bike has many reviews, to be honest I am considering getting one, my last bike was so fast it would maybe scare me today, perhaps not ! for all the reviews nobody has bought one yet, that would be most interesting. 🙂
I wish instead of apps they'd just use carplay/android auto, The app will be unupdated/dead in 5-10 years and any next owner of the bike will be screwed.
lots of chinese bot never ridden one RE and proposing chinese models instead 😭
A dirty bike is a well ridin bike.
Sherpas are not donkeys!! they are an ethnic people from the mountains of Nepal! blissful ignorance😮
Sherpas are an ethnic group of people as I mentioned 😅 the bike is also comparable to mountain goat - two separate analogies
Looks like they killed the versatility of the himalayan and made it just a street bike. Disappointing!
I think they moved the goal posts rather than killed it. As nice as my 411 himi is the new 450 is a totally different bike, they could have fiddled with the 411 but chose to start afresh after learning from their first adventure bike which is the best option going forward. Look at it this way it's better than a battery bike that we are going to have to buy in a while 😮 if the government has its way
Its 452 btw
3:40 tank is 17L
Whooooops lmao
OOOh Saffy.. 10mls/hour down a mountain ... Do you know how much control that takes.. The lads soaring down the mountain have a ton of basic physics (including the centre of mass gyroscope wheel mass )calculations working for them .. They are balancing a balloon on their palm compared to you balancing a pencil on your finger tip.. You are an absolute hero.. You keep saying no skill .. Slow riding needs way more skill and control.. WOWSERS SAFFFYY WEEE LOVVVEEE YUUUU🤓🤓💯❤🩹❤🩹❤🩹
I strongly suggest you take some bromide.
@@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne im 700 don,t need it my friend :)))))))))))))))