HEARTBREAKING Cooler For $60,175
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- In this high stakes cash game on Live At The Bike, fan favorite Garrett Adelstein plays a big pot against Barry Woods. What may seem like a standard cooler spot actually has several interesting wrinkles, although much of this could have been avoided with more disciplined preflop play!
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When discussing Barry's decision on the river after getting raised, Doug missed a great opportunity to reference Jaws and note that 'you're gonna need a bigger boat' to call.
It's "we're".
@@diji5071 lol yeah. The poker clip ain't the movie.
@@christophermoyer6103 fair enough.
Nope. You're....
Not bad
Is there a worse chip shuffler in the entire world than Barry?
Rick Brown god that’s all i can pay attention to now thanks!
@Marco K, the entirety of 5:35 to 7:25. He literally messes up every single chip shuffle in some type of way. I think this is because he is literally chip shuffling consciously. Similar to as if somebody was to concentrate on each chew of gum.
Rick Brown Yeah, me.
Those chips that they use at the Bike are super hard to shuffle cleanly with
candie
Moral of this Story: Bet Your Hand. Garrett set this result up by betting the Flop. 65% of players probably slow-play the 4-way Pot. Barry's 'Original Sin' was playing QJ/off....as Vanessa pointed out.
Yap, some disguised reverse implied odds here.
Well it sure helps to have Garret’s table image. He is always c betting for thin value and has an established reputation for bluffs. This makes him very dangerous. There are some players where you know the moment they jam on you they have nothing less than the stone cold nuts, and you can know you almost never good when that happens. Someone like garret will get paid off the most when he is running good.
I fail to agree that playing qj on a six way table deep stacked is a bad move. Not against just a 3 x bet against a loose player
@@8095jleon QJ-offsuit is not anywhere near playable in EARLY POSITION (Yes, Barry was in Cut-off here). You are dominated by AA, AK, AQ, AJ, KK, KQ, KJ, QQ. Beyond that, the only Flop you can feel good about is AKT (rainbow) and QJx (rainbow) and maybe T9x (rainbow). If you're LUCKY, you start with 25% equity, but having to act 1st post-Flop is a bad spot....unless you like "train-wrecks". (This is the same reason playing J8-suited, Q8-suited, T6-suited is risky and ambitious)
Well he may have lost $30,000, but at least Garrett gave him some sympathy - and you can't put a price on that. Not a price above $30,000 anyway, that would be pretty nuts.
lmao garrett gave him the 0.0... which is a lot
From what I have gathered from 15 years watching LATB , Barry is a top bloke who has improved enormously but he has always had a tendency to err on the side of calling rather than folding. Garrett will know this and went for the massive all in knowing he had a decent chance of stacking Barry. It's a great example of how to get burnt playing easily dominated cards.
This hand isn't about playing dominated cards... no, this hand is about an inability to fucking fold when you know you are beat. River should have been a super easy raise/fold. Unless Garret routinely 3-barrel bluff shoves, you can just raise/fold this river... but no, too many live players just can't fold big hands. They just say "Well, if you got it you got it..." Fuck yeah they got it, how many players 3-barrel bluff shove for 500bb???
the angle of your hat is absurdly obtuse
I thought it was a cute angle.
@James Fondren Couldn't disagree more- I believe it was specifically the use of the word "absurdly" that added at least 16.49% value to the joke. Incidentally, your comment loses around 11.83% of clarity by not beginning your second thought with "but" or ending with it "though" which, of course, would appropriately show the contrast between your initial praise and less-praiseworthy constructive feedback. Thank you for your time. Good day, sir.
@J K to a certain degree, the obtuseness was quite a cute angle, it may have kept him in check by over 90°
It's a Cubs hat, so it rocks, no matter how it is worn.
The word you’re looking for is askew. Obtuse makes zero sense.
QJ blocks AQ. How can garret have AQ?
Magic
Yeah I assumed the graphic was wrong at the beginning, seems like the dumbass dealer forgot about blockers. Hope they fire that asshole.
yawn.
Not sure why Doug ignored this fact, or maybe I wasn't paying attention and he did
😂
Still missing the intro-jingle that was used when the series started
6:40 "Garrett is thinking of freaking vegas and the mirage" Hahahaha
Just a question regarding strategy. What if Barry's strategy is to 3-bet all AQ combos pre flop. If that is the case then QJo is the best hand he can have right? And if he 3 bets AQs but flats AQo are there enough combos of AQ in his range to justify letting a hand like QJ go?
That is why you dont pure 3b AQo when you have a coldcall strategy. In onlinepoker a lot of players 3b or fold pre and they dont get into these kind of spots. If you play poorly preflop, yes you will have to call river technically with the best hand some times.
Is is only 1 suited combo va 6 combos . When he raise more then pot you can fold more then 50%.
You forget there a king between ace and queen lol
On the other hand, he shouldn't have Q7 here, so the question is if he's raising pocket jacks or pocket 7s on the river, or if QJ is the bottom of his value range when he raises to 5k on the river. If Garrett had bet smaller, you could make the argument to fold all your bluffs (which bluffs could you have though?) and call with all your value. But on a 3bet this big, you have to fold some of your value, and if QJ is the bottom of your value range, you should fold QJ.
And that's why you don't call with QJo from the cutoff.
Finger banging Your mom, no, it’d still be bad
well shit im glad i can cross off a relatively important hand from your cutoff calling range if i ever run into you
That isn't why you don't call with QJo from the cutoff.
26bisket it loses a majority of the time vs a solid players range
You're a fucking idiot...that's why you're a 1-3 player 2-5 at most. Gtfo you have zero clue what you're talking about grab ass low stakes bitch.
Came here from searching UA-cam for "dog pool care."
Dog pork ear.
I got recommended this vid after watching fat lesbian porn.
When you say "we are gonna have a lot of better boats here"... are you just basing that on if we play our preflop range like Barry? cuz if we are normally 3 betting AQ / AA / QQ / JJ pre, wouldn't QJ be the best boat we could have here when we call pre? I'm confused
Can we get a Doug Polk master class vid
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James Fondren I mean a troll of Daniels ad
J K you don’t have to click on the video lol
@J K what kind of frickin idiot clicks on a Doug Polk hand analysis video and then complains about him... analysing the hand? You I guess. What a goof.
Didn't think I'd live to see the day when Doug advocates a hero-fold.
I wish Vanessa would have mentioned (even if this lands on the exploitative side) the consideration of who your opponent is for both perspectives. Barry being a station for Garret, which lets Garret lead more effectively into Barry despite him having the board pretty locked up on every street. Also Garret's aggressiveness for Barry, which despite Barry's rep as a station, if there's one player that could triple barrel with air and then three-bet shove the river, it's Garret.
Have you broken down your failed bluff vs. Alec Torelli on LATB yet? I'd like to know more about what went through your mind in that hand
I think he did actually!
Mathias Brennhaugen Eike yes he did
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It's the best
Hey Doug, I just want to thank you for your hand break downs / analysis. Your contributions to this type of poker content are very appreciated. I can’t begin to thank you enough. Clever, humours and educational. You are the best in the biz!
Somebody clue me in. Why is the big blind play with 54o a better one than QJo in the cutoff?!
Because 3 other people have put money in the pot and the BB already put money in the pot, so what he needs to put in to call is fairly small. He's getting decent pot odds to call and hope to a straight, trips, two-pair, etc. The key is that he can win a lot for just a little more money. Plus, he's the last to act, so he doesn't have to worry about someone raising him after he put money in with those crappy cards.
@@daithi1966 That sounds reasonable. But he's only the last to act on pre-flop. He'll be first on every street.
Samuel Marinov You can fold 54o here and not worry about it.
"I love when the pros consider laying down boats'
Haha hella old school reference - I think 🤔
Great quote
@James Fondren Actually, Barry's kicker was a J
I fold boats daily... but.... folding third nuts on paired board is another story
Gus Hansen
"He could have a hand like AA or QQ here". Are there five queens in the deck?
The UA-cam captions have your name as Dog Pool 😂
As hard as it maybe you have to lay this down and save the 30k. When riv action goes bet, Raise and Reraise overjam and you have the 3rd nuts you are beat at least 95% of the time.
Its 600bb :D
That was my reaction as well. It's a cooler and it sucks, but what is Garrett jamming with that you can beat? Is he even doing that with 77? Garrett is aggressive, sure, but is he really trying to balance a range on the river there? Looks like 100 percent value, and everything he's jamming with beats you.
@@ChessJew yeah, I dunno, so easy to say it from here when we're not looking at that boat, but it's hard to see Garrett jamming 30k with air in a much smaller pot, that would be absurdly ballsy that deep into a cash game, maybe he was thinking Garrett takes that same line with KQ suited...
@@deathmetalalchemist5861 Garrett has made some huge 2x,3x overpot jams with air for >30k before
So, the $ amount isn't the question.
It's the river action that makes it really unlikely for him to bluff here
In general, players don't bet the river (for value or bluffs) often enough; they raise the river even less often
So when Barry raises river here, he is repping an incredibly strong hand (and is very rarely bluffing), and so
a smart player like Garrett is not going to try and bluff a guy off of a strong hand.
Additionally, Garrett is not raising for value here with less than AQ - it's literally QQ, AQ, and AA that jam this spot.
So from a 'balance/GTO' perspective, if he isn't reraise jamming river very often (only a few combos of value hands),
he can't have very many bluff combos either.
If he were to bluff here (if there were some crazy dynamic where Barry bluff raises river a lot - which I've never seen
in my life at any game (although I play much much smaller)), he would have to choose a hand like AK or Qx to turn into a bluff -
blocking the nuts in this spot is critically important
@@Pyrotekniq yes but it was bet, raise, re-raise. That's different from than just jamming the river.
Barry Woods Tomb Stone:
"QJ off suit, one of my most premium holdings"
-Barry Woods
Nobody folds a Queen
Barry trying to spread his chips into the felt
It is not impossible that the other guy has queens? What kind of deck is this?
QJ is third nuts. AQ and AA is still a possibility although extremely low odds.
@@Kevin_Roche according to Doug it's the fourth nuts: 9:45
He means combos that include a Q. When he says he has a lot of Qs, it means he has hands like AQ, (3 combos) and KQ (4 combos) in his range.
@@emdiar6588 then he should have said "he may have some random aces or queens", not "it's not impossible he has aces or queens"
I think he was also speaking theoreticaly. If QQ is in Barry' preflop call range then hands like this could play out the same with him having quads. Garrett couldn't shove like this without a Q in his hand, since there would be so many in Barry's range. Thus Barry should surmise this is not a bluff, given how dangerously stupid it would be given the Q's in his theoretical range on each street.
Before this hand starts, I will predict that Garrett will cooler his opponent. He always does.
What would Garrett's bluff be in this spot? AK? A7s? QK?
Probably some AK/AT type of hands. You want your opponent to have 77s (clear fold vs jam) so A7s is a bad shove hand
@@AndreasFroehliPoker thanks Andreas, love your vids mate! Keep up the great content and thanks again for the input.
Thanks Doug for making all these strategy videos and Making Poker Suck Again. I played live last week and the table was playing tight as shit, and people were talking blockers, ranges, etc - I blame you god damn it. Now we can all play against strategically sound players and just hope to run good and beat the rake. Way to teach everyone, take profits with your training company, and then stop playing poker because you know it's stupid to play against people with access to this much content.
Blows my mind that good players give away so much knowledge.
Stupidest thing ever
Can we see more after the hand, I want to see more reaction afterwards
Note that in this spot we should mainly be posting triton hands, mayyyyybe once in a blue moon we can advocate a live at the bike vid here and there but our main strategy should be to stick to triton hands.
Doug Polk reminds me of Petra in Rounders in a modified quote "For guy that doesn't play cards anymore you spend a lot of time discussing poker strategy involving other people's hands."
Anybody have a clip of Doug laying a boat down? Id love to see it.
"There's no way I could lay that down"... LOL
God bless live poker.... The thought of "what could my villain possible go all-in with" just can't compete with "I haz a boat, must call a jam..."
I think it was just a call on the river raising was a mistake.
Doug you can't fold sets and trips but you can fold full houses? Sure buddy! xD
To my understanding, tell me if I’m wrong, it’s one of the worst scenarios in poker when I’ve the second nuts, and my opponent has the first nut. There’s already a huge pot on the river, so I’m thinking how to extract the max value on the river, and my opponent check-raises me all in to call. Then, I’m so curious to see his hand because it’s so hard to fold in this kind of situation, and also because I’m so curious about his hand! Who knows maybe it’s kind of good bluff, especially if he has much more chips than me ?!!
I'm confused Doug. There have been several videos where you have stated plenty of times not to fold boats, trips, sets, etc. on the river yet it seems you are advocating it in this spot? Regardless of the bad call pre-flop, do solvers really suggest a fold in this spot with QJ?
Hey Doug, can you please do a hand breakdown on a hand that was played on a WPT final table with Maurice Hawkins and David Paredes at a WPT final table at the Borgata where Maurice Hawkins folded AA to David Paredes after David hit a set of 99 on the river.
Might be a dumb question but why should Barry fold QJ pre flop? I would say that in a cash game that has been this active most players will be opening most suited connectors and low pocket pairs
Calling QJo preflop: cannot withstand a squeeze, doesn't have the button. No initiative either, so no FE preflop.
Postflop: Reverse implied odds, even more so at that deep effective depth. Unsuited broadways lose a lot of value for said reason.
There's just no good reason to call pre.
Hey Doug, you look like a retired skateboarder with that cap :D
Hey Doug, i just took you to 350 likes . I'm watching from Cape Girardeau Missouri and really like what I am seeing. The sarcasm you sprinkle throughout is spot on.
@James Fondren ... good times. They built a new jail about a year ago so if you find yourself in that spot again at least you will have new digs
So glad you’re back to daily poker videos . You don’t realize how annoying and basic most of the poker community “ ambassadors “ are. You’re smart and witty. I’m a player and a dealer in a popular room and most of the players are just boring. “ just your classic 600 big blind boat over boat “ lmao, classic !
$60k? That's peanuts after the last videos.
hahaha
The triton level of poker is peanuts compared to this though..
9:40 Is it really possible that Garrett can have Queens? Is it? ;)
@MICHAEL PHAN Neither player can put their opponent on two queens. There's two on the board and one in your own hand. Pocket queens is impossible, as is putting your opponent on one is.
Doug your analysis is spot on here. I think the biggest difference between winning and losing poker players is knowing when to fold a good hand.
Is Garrett always in the good side of the cooler ?
It wasn't a cooler because Berry called an open with Q J off
Anybody else get annoyed that LATB doesn't acknowledge effective stacks on a shove. Garrett's bet isn't 38100 (total pot: 47575), it's only 23750 (total pot: 33225), cut that's all Barry has to lose. It's harder for viewer to calculate pot odds.
Truly appreciate the daily posts. Really miss your poker play, but I get it.
Around 9:30 you say "he might have queens or aces, but it is highly unlikely" - I definetely agree on the queens. It is indeed not very likely with two queens on the board and one in your hand that your opponent has queens.
Well done Doug. You're on time. lol
Almost as bad as Oliver Hudson losing to Sammy Farha in the WSOP main event a few years ago
was that the tens full hand? the first hand of the tournament?
@@rcannin Yup, that very one
AAA1010
I don't think I could lay a boat down in a situation like this EVER. But granted I play with ppl that will straight bluff your ass at a larger frequency than you see in professional games.
I'm thinking he had around 7 k invested in the pot something that in tough spots makes for a good lay down right
How did I know, Garrett coolers his opponent. I haven’t watched a ton of LATB videos, but at least 50 or so. Garrett coolers more people than all the other players combined. He runs sick. Not saying he doesn’t play his hands well, but damn, I put in 1,000 hours a year and coolers like this don’t happen very often at all. For Garrett it’s like every 20 hours. For me it’s like every 150 hours or whatever.
there's a rule in poker thats pros playing cash game almost never break (except when ur name starts with tom or phil): They don't bluff off their stack on the river. there's no way 77 reshove on that river. JJ probably wont bet turn. so exactly 3 type of hands can make such play: AQ AA and same QJ, which highly unlikely. still, ur chopping at best. pretty easy lay down imo.
it's a theoretically easy fold.
In practice it's WAY easier said than done. Making a full house using both cards is very rare. A lot of poker players are not capable of laying these kinds of hands down.
Keep in mind barry woods is also the guy who opened then cold-called a huge 3bet preflop with 34o
Thanks for the gr8 polkerhand Douggy
Does Garrett play worse full houses or a straight like this? Trips? I don’t think so, pretty sure he calls the river raise with his slightly worse value hands than QJ (JJ, 77,Q7) ect and jams all bigger boats, AQ-AA but does he ever bluff here, if so what hands are good bluffs,? AJ, KQ,Q10 maybe? That’s probably it. It would be super risky since Barry is repping a boat by raising. Seriously tough spot but in terms of relative hand strength it’s tough for a worse hand to jam for value than AQ for that much and my main fear would be AA since I block AQ, but it’s still out there in the combos of hands Garret can have.
And to turn a hand like trips into a bluff you’d have to be damn sure you’re reading your opponents hand spot on and are confident he’s good enough to fold the hand he is representing. KQ and Q10 are meh bluffs because they both block the unlikely straight which is the kind of hand you’re trying to get your opponent to fold.
11.02 - 11.33 Garrett literally doesn't move i thought they had frozen him in post production. What a cool cat.
1:20. I died. Keep it up, Doug.
Seems like a thin river raise no ? Does Garrett really call with kq or qt?
So awkward watching Barry fumble around with those chips while trying to shuffle them 😬
60k is the amount romain put in preflop with 54off against tom
How can you both recommend Garrett to go all-in OTR and for Barry to fold with a hand one pip below. That’s just inconsistent.
@Dale Kerr I agree, but he could have discussed Garrett's bet sizing choice more: GTO vs exploitative .
9:37 it is impossible to have QQ what u on about doug
not impossible, what about the queen of england
10:28 "think about relative value: I have a boat!"
I think you mean absolute value, Doug.
I think with absolute you would know how valuable it is and in turn would fold. Relative means your judgement is on it's own scale. It seems good to Barry, relative to most hands. But it absolute terms, it's a loser. But with poker being a game where you don't have all the info, it's all relative until the showdown.
@@jacobbullinger6858 I think you misunderstand. These terms have specific meanings in poker strategy. Polk is describing Barry's strategic viewpoint, but he mistakenly uses the term "relative" when he means to use the term "absolute". What Doug means to say is that Barry called because of his absolute hand strength, and not his relative hand strength.
Classic Zeebos theorem
So can Garrett overbluff with anything there? Or does he "only have AQ"? Seems like a stupid bet unless he'd rip it with pocket 4s or some shit
What I'm wondering is how Barry has played this much poker and still can't shuffle his chips properly? Lol
Both of them played perfectly , nothing complain here ! They are both are great and humble player! One just has higher kicker and hit it anyway . Thinking and had to call ! Dont need to analize this ot that ! Classic !
9:35 aces and queens unlikely but not impossible? queens are pretty impossible unless there are 5 in the deck
If I were Barry, if I was to call with QJo preflop and that flop comes, I’m for sure raising Garrett’s c-bet. Not doing so gave him little to no information as to his hand’s strength relative to Garrett’s. A flop raise would have told him that Garrett also has a Q and might have made it easier for him to lay down on the river and maybe would have saved him more money.
This kind of shit happens to me pretty often. Lately it's been quads beating my top boat.....
Doug can you do the Andy quads vs top boat hand at latb?????
On the river wasn't it an easy fold for Garrett's preflop raising range ? When he jams the river and given his preflop raise he always has AA or AQ there. 77 always flat there. JJ is out of question in Garrett's hand based on flop and turn bets. So you are always beat when Garrett ships it in especially when we raise the river and show strength.
Why is QJo a fold from the cutoff?
Garrett missed a perfect opportunity to shoot a sick angle by saying good call when Barry threw in his time extension chip. Kinda looks like Barry is making a crying call the way he flipped them into the pot. When the hell are they going to change the shape of those time extension chips so that situations like the one I just described could never happen?
I haven't played poker properly in like 5 years but I still watch like all your videos, they're so good 😍
Can you make a series on river spots such as these where regs are chronically underbluffing (though probably correctly from an exploitative pov).
Love to know what bluffs he was putting him on to bluff catch there? Of course he just sat there strokng his gills instead 'repeating but its queen jack'
Such a tough spot. When Gareett jams, you have to ask what could he have? A straight? Trips? He's calling your river raise with those hands. Realistically, you beat a total bluff, or 77 - and you're chopping QJ I guess. I think it has to be a fold. Brutal cooler, but the way the action goes, I don't think Garrett would do this without having you beat...
What's up polk doug, 3 bet here, combo draw up the backdoor.
I dont know man, I think you need to cut Barry some slack here. G-man is an hyper agro player, he could be doing the exact same plays with pocket Tens or King Queen
I think you're right about him being agro... but i don't think G would take that loose of a line against someone like Barry (who can be quite the calling station). Typically you'd take that 1010 or KQ line on that board against a stronger player who can find folds to you bluffs/semi-bluffs
The death bed part lmao
Doug i like the way you balance your hat position
He says Garrett should go all in on the river, then says Barry should fold what is the next best possible hand. Doesn't that mean Garrett's raise is ineffective and he should go with a smaller size to get more calls from worse hands?
Was Doug implying there having been tomfoolery for the cameras sake at the end?
I will say on a similar note that I wouldn't play against a guy like Garrett at a table full of hole card cams that he has a hand in being in charge of, TBH.
Omg whaaat he is part in charge of the hole card cameras?
Folding there to Garrett seems wrong in long run with 3rd nuts. You loose to AA and AQ only.
nice sideways backwards hat doug, you look way cooler with the hat on backwards and sideways lol
Ya hate to see it if ur barry
Barry shuffles chips just like I do.
Yeah not clever call. As you csnt really beat any garret value. At best hoping for chop with qj!!! Lol ofcourse you can beat his bluffs but how many of those does he have inner raise shove river....
Yeah Doug I’ve made millions laying down boats on the river
Fold Quads and increase your bankroll by x1000%
a big pot at live at the bike is about a the amount there is pre flop in the triton games
Doug "don't fold full houses" polk advocates to fold a full house 😰
I don't see you laying that one down Doug
How many queens in the deck again?
Did Doug say he thinks Gman would fold Q9suited preflop?!
This ones tough. I normally agree with your analysis Doug, and I'm not saying I disagree (as you are most likely correct and I am negative in lifetime poker winnings), but is there never a bluff range for Garrett here? Barry being who is he is (assuming a station the way you talked in the video), might make bluffing dumb on the river, but with only one Q left and 3 A's, there's only 3 possible combinations that beat him, assuming AA isn't an option. and he needs 40% roughly to call. There's not 8 other combinations of cards Garrett would bluff here? KJs, J-10s? Was just definitely expecting you to say he had to call him down at the end. Enjoying the amount of new content - you got my views and likes every video.
3b bluffing river vs a station is super dumb. Youre right.