The Engineer's Blueprints: Upward

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  • Overview of the Payload map Upward (pl_upward) from the perspective of the Engineer. Feel free to use this video walk-through as a guide to the basic strategies and common building placements you should use while playing Engie.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 2,5 тис.

  • @EnoughCactus
    @EnoughCactus 7 років тому +6139

    > watches video's full length
    > takes intensive notes
    > 5 engies on my team

  • @Max-fn7nq
    @Max-fn7nq 8 років тому +2803

    "Make sure to keep a close eye on the shithouse"
    -Uncle Dane 2016

    • @guscox9651
      @guscox9651 4 роки тому +54

      @@joyfulruin i think we all know what happens there

    • @tev5040
      @tev5040 4 роки тому +19

      wtf he said that at the EXACT time I read this

    • @autopilotjk3180
      @autopilotjk3180 3 роки тому +3

      @@guscox9651 there a spy in there

    • @faze_inaba3254
      @faze_inaba3254 3 роки тому +4

      @@autopilotjk3180 sounds like what a SPAH would say

    • @theforbiddenfruit2300
      @theforbiddenfruit2300 3 роки тому +18

      17:13 if any one wanted to know

  • @bobbob3101
    @bobbob3101 4 роки тому +2206

    Alternative title:
    “Top 10 bushes on Upward”

  • @OGXenos
    @OGXenos 5 років тому +2354

    "If the map has been updated"
    Good joke.

    • @helix2331
      @helix2331 4 роки тому +43

      it's been a year and it's still accurate come ON VALVE

    • @benjamingrove4976
      @benjamingrove4976 4 роки тому +68

      This just gets funnier and sadder the longer nothing happens..

    • @consumerofbepsi5254
      @consumerofbepsi5254 4 роки тому +36

      heavy update! coming soon when the sun explodes

    • @nathandanielsen7131
      @nathandanielsen7131 4 роки тому +17

      @@consumerofbepsi5254 coming once sticky bombs automatically detonate

    • @Nemyoseo
      @Nemyoseo 3 роки тому +17

      Technically it was updated in May when they added the Soldier statues to every map. But that was only for that month.

  • @kimehrenschiold1693
    @kimehrenschiold1693 7 років тому +4567

    "My favorite bushes include"

    • @timurtheterrible4062
      @timurtheterrible4062 6 років тому +135

      include sour diesel, OG Kush, and Tom cruise purple

    • @kjm3672
      @kjm3672 6 років тому +122

      "Mia Khalifa and Alexis Texas" ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°

    • @ithinkinoahguy1581
      @ithinkinoahguy1581 5 років тому +92

      this bush is kind of obvious and not really sneaky at all for attacks. however this bush will last you long enough in order to ambush and touch your victims

    • @fardass3535
      @fardass3535 5 років тому +17

      is that the weird part to you and not the shear thought of BUSH CAMPING SENTRY GUNS!

    • @trainzmarcel2074
      @trainzmarcel2074 4 роки тому +17

      owo

  • @Handlesareastupidsystem
    @Handlesareastupidsystem 5 років тому +624

    That light on the mini was added for the exact reason you pointed out, bushes and other small hiding spots.

  • @Syllkort
    @Syllkort 8 років тому +494

    I'd like to express my appreciation towards the amount of time and effort that you put into your videos, compared to almost any other UA-cam channel that I know. The quality of directing and editing here is amazing, and it really feels like you make these videos out of genuine joy and care for the subjects that you cover. So many channels attempt to minmax their view counts and profits by pumping out short, easy-to-make videos, which results in sub-par experiences for the viewers, but when it comes to your channel, I completely enjoy every single aspect of the videos, and feel like I'm getting way more than expected for my time spent on this channel. Please keep up the amazing work, so hopefully more channels are inspired by this one.

    • @UncleDane
      @UncleDane  8 років тому +91

      Thanks man, comments like yours are a big part of the reason why I do it. :)

    • @kiruuttori8539
      @kiruuttori8539 8 років тому

      I like to thank too just because the quality of your videos is amazing, but can you but your sentry in the apartments if your team already has one in the balcony (someone asked this not my idea) (in defense). Thanks for the video.

    • @MarkD32
      @MarkD32 8 років тому

      Uncle Dane I tried placing a sentry on the last point near the pit on defense and I was actually successful.

    • @luxiken6719
      @luxiken6719 8 років тому

      Uncle Dane hey pls tell other tf2 youtubers to do stuff like this

    • @emorysun9198
      @emorysun9198 8 років тому

      +RatedEforedge pub?

  • @herbivorethecarnivore8447
    @herbivorethecarnivore8447 8 років тому +2438

    Is there a backstory for the name 'Shithouse'?

    • @UncleDane
      @UncleDane  8 років тому +2081

      I mean... look at it. It's awful. I wouldn't want that to be my house, it's shit.

    • @McInovation
      @McInovation 8 років тому +312

      Herbivore The Carnivore Badlands mid also has a callout called "shithouse".

    • @Earoist
      @Earoist 8 років тому +220

      It's a fixerupper.

    • @relucify9814
      @relucify9814 8 років тому +54

      therefore being a "shithouse"? :D

    • @ilikepiebadly999
      @ilikepiebadly999 8 років тому +275

      idk about upward, but the badlands shithouse got it's name from basically being a really small, claustrophobic area that is 'shit' to be in because if you get caught in it youre basically guaranteed to die or take a lot of damage
      maybe it has the same idea in upward too

  • @sharko3211
    @sharko3211 4 роки тому +1583

    I’d love to see this series but CTF
    “Now ofcourse, in the intel room”
    “In the Sewers”
    “If your feeling like pissing people off hide it under the bridge”

    • @ryan_1314
      @ryan_1314 4 роки тому +145

      Engishark is just as valid of a strategy as pyroshark

    • @Trash_Enthusiast
      @Trash_Enthusiast 4 роки тому +90

      Engi-eel

    • @ultimaterecoil1136
      @ultimaterecoil1136 4 роки тому +25

      Charlie Botterell best part is with a dispenser you don’t need air

    • @TheScootGuy
      @TheScootGuy 3 роки тому +34

      just fucking place it on the bridge itself, better yet, on top of the bridge, it isnt like the snipers can aim

    • @theuserjoan
      @theuserjoan 3 роки тому +38

      @@TheScootGuy they can, but on top of the bridge is indeed a good strategy as they can’t stand on their battlements. It’s really
      hard to get up there without dying before setting up a tele though

  • @Ben.N
    @Ben.N 5 років тому +855

    I have 500 hours in this game and didn't know about that drop down. I play upward a lot.

    • @dukeoog5466
      @dukeoog5466 4 роки тому +69

      The exact same thing with me. Time to overuse it!

    • @ubosh3901
      @ubosh3901 4 роки тому +35

      I learned about it when I reached around 1000 hours xD

    • @SirBananaFunk
      @SirBananaFunk 4 роки тому +9

      I have more than 500 hours. Played upward somewhat like 10 times

    • @tehgerumpe9166
      @tehgerumpe9166 4 роки тому +7

      when in the video does he talk about it ?
      what is it ?

    • @Boumi
      @Boumi 4 роки тому +27

      Teh Gerumpe - 17:34 , I have got more than 5k hours and didn’t even know about it. I am a 6s player though

  • @shirtymop6463
    @shirtymop6463 8 років тому +514

    Fitting that the first map in "Engineer's Blueprints" was added in the Engineer Update.

  • @lilstjimmy
    @lilstjimmy 5 років тому +943

    The Pit is obviously the best sentry spot smh

  • @jarool1410
    @jarool1410 8 років тому +437

    A drinking game: Take a shot every time he says "Cheeky".

  • @adwanbwah2266
    @adwanbwah2266 5 років тому +877

    "It is over, BLU team, I have the high ground"
    "You underestimated our power" *medic activates uber*

    • @bruh-dj5uo
      @bruh-dj5uo 5 років тому +19

      *Also Pyro: instantly gets mowed down by blu team

    • @andrj8844
      @andrj8844 5 років тому +37

      @@bruh-dj5uo the engi: *uses wrangler and presses 2* now im invincible

    • @jacksongaming854
      @jacksongaming854 4 роки тому +2

      Then

    • @jacksongaming854
      @jacksongaming854 4 роки тому +2

      Rescue ranger moves the sentry

    • @TheDuckyDino
      @TheDuckyDino 4 роки тому +13

      @ALT F4 * uber duo dies a clumsy painful death*

  • @CrackaDon
    @CrackaDon 5 років тому +90

    This video was so relaxing, I got through 8 minutes and took a nap for an hour and a half.

    • @graine1
      @graine1 4 роки тому +13

      dont call me out like that

  • @pepsiaddictgaming
    @pepsiaddictgaming 8 років тому +794

    I dont need sleep its a 40 min dane video

    • @turtlemun
      @turtlemun 8 років тому +2

      Ikr? lol

    • @jarnovl667
      @jarnovl667 8 років тому

      Dank is love dank is meemz

    • @zolika1351
      @zolika1351 8 років тому

      exactly me

    • @SuperHamsterhuey
      @SuperHamsterhuey 7 років тому +8

      Fuck, it's almost 3 in the morning.
      Well, I'm off to play 2fort

    • @PanKarmeleq
      @PanKarmeleq 7 років тому +3

      I was up until 1:30 am on New Year...

  • @TheDarkshadows30
    @TheDarkshadows30 8 років тому +889

    "If you have the highground you will almost always win." You underestimate my uber...

    • @synthena9776
      @synthena9776 8 років тому +54

      and then you realise you can't reach a sentry on a balcony with uber from the entrance. and then you die

    • @synthena9776
      @synthena9776 8 років тому +2

      true

    • @marcjuu
      @marcjuu 8 років тому +9

      a quickfix medic and a soldier could reach it,techicaly but only problem is.. sentry knock back..

    • @marcjuu
      @marcjuu 8 років тому +2

      good to know

    • @MoustachioFurioso83
      @MoustachioFurioso83 8 років тому +33

      Looks like nobody got the joke.

  • @jerma984
    @jerma984 8 років тому +1263

    What if I'm on team spectator?

    • @dynomite463
      @dynomite463 8 років тому +378

      witness how terrible everyone is

    • @therealbluguy7704
      @therealbluguy7704 8 років тому +112

      Caboose Banana Ghost out flankers and spies to be an ass

    • @Duck-ou3qy
      @Duck-ou3qy 8 років тому +50

      Caboose Banana go on a capture the flag map and witness the f2p

    • @shararyusuf480
      @shararyusuf480 7 років тому +9

      Caboose Banana u

    • @Abandoned978
      @Abandoned978 5 років тому +17

      Recreate the Rancho Relaxo taunt IRL

  • @FSRiko
    @FSRiko 3 роки тому +84

    Very thorough and detailed, wonderfully done.
    One ninjaneer play for Blu at last is to put an exit tele at Crates, behind the boxes, though it is kind of cheeky and you have to be unseen for the most part.
    I found another good sentry spot when on Blu at last is right underneath the last Cap, at the edge of the Pit.

    • @alleopold
      @alleopold Рік тому +1

      the man

    • @mallusaih
      @mallusaih Рік тому +1

      better spot is right at the entrance to crates inside across so red isn't instantly reminded. It has won me a lot of games and compliments from the team

    • @Godzillagamer1577
      @Godzillagamer1577 8 місяців тому

      naga this is unintelligble

  • @Manglet762
    @Manglet762 7 років тому +80

    Love how there are callouts like Main, Cliff, and Tunnel, while there are callouts like Shithouse, and Pub Spot.

  • @bugchewer
    @bugchewer 8 років тому +367

    I've been playing this map so awfully jesus christ

    • @maple7462
      @maple7462 8 років тому

      CryptoLockerdotexe is not responding same o.o

    • @bugchewer
      @bugchewer 8 років тому +29

      I mean, imagine the opposite of what this guide says
      "That's a usual pub spot"
      "Too aggressive"
      "It'll be easily destroyed and/or sappped"

    • @Jim_Underscore
      @Jim_Underscore 8 років тому

      CryptoLockerdotexe is not responding why the fuck u have a masha n medved

    • @bugchewer
      @bugchewer 8 років тому

      Masha is clinically depressed

    • @miss_bec
      @miss_bec 8 років тому

      rip masha

  • @UncleDane
    @UncleDane  8 років тому +791

    Let me know what map you want me to talk about next. I'd like to do a King Of The Hill one next. Thanks for watching, if you did. :)

    • @iluVioletLink
      @iluVioletLink 8 років тому +13

      Uncle Dane harvest!! or maybe viaduct

    • @kleskthewarlock
      @kleskthewarlock 8 років тому +39

      +Uncle Dane I'm totally down for Badwater, favorite payload map right there.

    • @White35du53
      @White35du53 8 років тому +4

      Uncle Dane I'd love if you could talk about Double Cross. I play alot on this map, and I can't see any good place for my sentry...

    • @GhostlyBirds
      @GhostlyBirds 8 років тому

      Uncle Dane Awesome job on this guide! I love all the thoughtful thinking you put to your engineer play and how you're contributing to the community this way. I think a Harvest video for KOTH guide would be great!

    • @clashwithking4206
      @clashwithking4206 8 років тому +3

      Well if you can talk about frontier please

  • @Lucanoptek
    @Lucanoptek 8 років тому +233

    But,we can't do it when we got 4 snipers and 3 spies :'(

    • @Twoplustwoequalsfive221
      @Twoplustwoequalsfive221 8 років тому

      So true :'c

    • @celestia277
      @celestia277 8 років тому +25

      +ΑΝΤΩΝΗΣ ΣΑΜΠΙΩΤΑΚΗΣ why doesnt valve make a limit on how much players can choose that class
      specifically sniper,spy, engineer

    • @jennyinutil2018
      @jennyinutil2018 8 років тому +3

      because pubs

    • @LeMustache
      @LeMustache 8 років тому +6

      You, Overwatch players will never understang this

    • @jennyinutil2018
      @jennyinutil2018 8 років тому +2

      Witold Kowalski what

  • @tylershepard1891
    @tylershepard1891 7 років тому +303

    You know you're in for a bumpy ride when even the ads buffer

  • @Triangle1929
    @Triangle1929 6 років тому +202

    I just realized that the engineer can secretly be a mastermind leader through subtle placements of dispensers and teleporters

    • @kribyV_
      @kribyV_ Рік тому +4

      mind games, more than observer spies

    • @Introbulus
      @Introbulus 11 місяців тому +1

      You can solve practical problems.

  • @Mattp199
    @Mattp199 8 років тому +377

    ankle Dane is a very gud video maker main

    • @engineerskalinera
      @engineerskalinera 8 років тому +7

      ankle daine is a varly gud vidio makr main

    • @nathanmiranda8098
      @nathanmiranda8098 8 років тому +3

      Ocean Matt
      ancle dan is a verly gud vidio man

    • @GoatandWatch
      @GoatandWatch 8 років тому +4

      Ankle Daine is a verlay gud vidia makr main...

    • @aarontobias2486
      @aarontobias2486 8 років тому +30

      Male sibling of a biological parent named Dane is a quite adequate videographer.

    • @sin_bad219
      @sin_bad219 7 років тому

      Aaron Tobias *an

  • @NinjaGamer820
    @NinjaGamer820 8 років тому +253

    1) why is pit even a call out
    2) why is shithouse the best name for a callout in all of comp history? well maybe cheese is better

    • @drakonis8138
      @drakonis8138 8 років тому +36

      "Soldier's jumping over pit" "Scout's Jumping over pit" "Demo's jumping over pit."

    • @drakonis8138
      @drakonis8138 8 років тому +47

      Also shithouse is funny

    • @KimFareseed
      @KimFareseed 8 років тому +4

      Nemesis
      Shithouse is quicker to say then C-house. Not the biggest fan of it, but it works.

    • @hanhong2267
      @hanhong2267 8 років тому +1

      I thought it meant shedhouse?

    • @KimFareseed
      @KimFareseed 8 років тому +1

      Han Hong
      It would then have been called "shed."

  • @Phoinx
    @Phoinx 7 років тому +386

    Just one thing: please, DON'T place teleporters facing the WALL. -_-

    • @ultimaterecoil1136
      @ultimaterecoil1136 5 років тому +48

      Ricardo Caco better then a cliff

    • @zachsz9320
      @zachsz9320 5 років тому +5

      @@ultimaterecoil1136 still bad placement tho

    • @andrj8844
      @andrj8844 5 років тому +16

      plase du btv i are spey main you kan tel becous mj spel gud end i hev anim profil pektur

    • @blobbles9320
      @blobbles9320 5 років тому +11

      Free Backstabs!

    • @CursedLuigiDoll
      @CursedLuigiDoll 4 роки тому +4

      Then place it near a cliff, MUCH more safer. Since the spies won’t get kills.

  • @jockeyfield1954
    @jockeyfield1954 5 років тому +159

    wait was this made before the short circuit was a dragon ball z attck

    • @hoyeunglee2009
      @hoyeunglee2009 5 років тому +19

      this was made before a zap can make a rANd0M cRI0cKeT vanish, so yeah

  • @betahazard2352
    @betahazard2352 5 років тому +84

    17:35 I've played Upward so many times, it is my favorite payload map, and I have never noticed there was a door there.

    • @georgeheld1901
      @georgeheld1901 3 роки тому +4

      There’s a cool way to dispenser jump up there and put a teleported exit there, and then when the door is shut after 3rd is capped, you basically have an invulnerable teleported right into the op balcony spot

    • @georgeheld1901
      @georgeheld1901 Рік тому

      @@toxictoast9947 ahh well

  • @GoatandWatch
    @GoatandWatch 8 років тому +178

    "Engineer in the Shithouse!" Can't wait to yell that in competitive.

  • @MinnesotaShirokuma
    @MinnesotaShirokuma 8 років тому +21

    The fact that this series exists makes me so happy xDD

  • @goose9735
    @goose9735 8 років тому +292

    "Let's switch teams here!" That made me a little bit sad.

    • @someonerandom298
      @someonerandom298 8 років тому +64

      Flashbacks of Auto-Balance...

    • @goose9735
      @goose9735 8 років тому +17

      I miss auto balance ;-;

    • @skikdo8266
      @skikdo8266 8 років тому +4

      y u do dis gaben ;-; auto-balance wes da only gud ting in tf2.

    • @goose9735
      @goose9735 8 років тому +1

      Potatochip Army
      Rest in picklechips auto-balance.

    • @fpsvoltage3005
      @fpsvoltage3005 8 років тому +29

      thats one weird opinion because auto balance was heavily hated in the community for never working as intended

  • @ENDfilms44
    @ENDfilms44 8 років тому +202

    Quick note- if enemy has dx8 small bushes don't exist on upward.

    • @rx-0unicorngundam832
      @rx-0unicorngundam832 8 років тому +13

      since most people dont know/dont use or want skins and sheens, it wouldnt matter

    • @ENDfilms44
      @ENDfilms44 8 років тому +45

      actually, many comp players run it for max fps and a cleaner look (simpler visual effects). So where this map guide would be most useful would be comp highlander where many run dx8.

    • @joeshade1573
      @joeshade1573 8 років тому +2

      END films I had to change of dx8 for my hud crosshair to work ;-;

    • @leonardo9259
      @leonardo9259 4 роки тому +21

      @@ENDfilms44 bold of you to assume that comp players know any other gamemode than 5cp

    • @cheesuscrust3755
      @cheesuscrust3755 3 роки тому +2

      @@leonardo9259 lmao imagine 5cp highlander where 5 classes are near useless all the time

  • @pieguy6992
    @pieguy6992 4 роки тому +13

    When you said "you can coordinate with your spy and jump out of this window and wreak havoc" or whatever you said when you were describing offensive strategy, I got an idea for a spy sapper replacement.
    Spy weapon
    Sapper replacement
    +Building is disabled for an additional 3 seconds after sapper is removed
    +50% sapper health
    +When sapper is placed on a building, the building will be highlighted (wallhacks) for your team and your team will be notified that the building is being sapped
    -80% sapper damage penalty
    -When sapper is removed, spy is marked for death for 3 seconds
    The strategy would be to coordinate with your team to destroy a nest. Instead of the spy taking out the building on his own, he'd act as an actual support class, disabling the building so a power class can come in and just totally wreck everything.

    • @juanokug4
      @juanokug4 4 роки тому +1

      Maybe make it so the spy can't spam the sapper
      Otherwise really cool

    • @yesno8273
      @yesno8273 4 роки тому

      JuanokuG4 i mean it does say that spy is marked for death once the sap is removed, so the engie can just shotgun the spy when he removes the sap

    • @juanokug4
      @juanokug4 4 роки тому

      @@yesno8273 oooooooooooo that's pretty smart

  • @CHEF-55457
    @CHEF-55457 5 років тому +119

    Its fun playing as pyro on this map when the cart reaches a certain area that is near a cliffside, you can airblast your foes to their doom...

    • @menacingspoon9079
      @menacingspoon9079 4 роки тому +12

      I actually used that strat our team was getting rolled and I just held down M2 at the last 5 seconds and we won

    • @alex_zetsu
      @alex_zetsu 4 роки тому +12

      How do you do that? When I try, 25% of the time, I just end up knocking them to the place under the tracks and giving them a medium health kit instead of sending them off the cliff.

    • @alex_zetsu
      @alex_zetsu 4 роки тому +2

      @PastedA1M If i do that I send them off the cliff instead of to the health? Thanks.

    • @kronos_1337.
      @kronos_1337. 2 роки тому

      Or shove them (bad idea)

  • @justincruz8050
    @justincruz8050 7 років тому +53

    Thank you for this, I border-line spontaneously became the main engi for a highlander team and these videos are so helpful. Thanks uncle.

  • @raygomez4876
    @raygomez4876 8 років тому +70

    Hey Dane you should review the map Badwater as it is a very big pubber map as it is also ran in competitive play : ^ )
    suhh dude.

    • @UncleDane
      @UncleDane  8 років тому +47

      suhh
      And I definitely plan on it. It's a 6v6 map now, lol

    • @dsblocks
      @dsblocks 8 років тому +11

      Uncle Dane The shithouse...

    • @epictf2gaming550
      @epictf2gaming550 7 років тому

      Uncle Dane I think the shithouse should instead be the C house

  • @thepeepeeparalyzerofficial4397
    @thepeepeeparalyzerofficial4397 3 роки тому +55

    I made my entire team go engie on this map, twice and both on offense
    What we did is we had some engies pushing the cart and some chasing off the enemies at the front lines and between the cart and the front line we’d have engies placing sentries to ward off any enemies, it was flawless

    • @silvershark6403
      @silvershark6403 2 роки тому +9

      Engineer gaming

    • @ashtongiertz8728
      @ashtongiertz8728 2 роки тому +4

      Now try having the entire team as Scout on Defense. Some scattergun skirmishers on the front line attacking the Blue team from every possible angle, while shortstops run support to pepper Pyros and minies, as well as spycheck.

  • @terrypiggy8582
    @terrypiggy8582 8 років тому +278

    do map cp_dustbowl next,I never know where to place my sentry

    • @rurathn5534
      @rurathn5534 8 років тому +25

      Terry Piggy dustbowl is The worst map in The game

    • @jonathanharsh7434
      @jonathanharsh7434 8 років тому +76

      Spence ...Have you PLAYED Hoodoo?

    • @kedarunzi9139
      @kedarunzi9139 8 років тому +30

      hydro

    • @jimmythornseed8605
      @jimmythornseed8605 8 років тому +29

      Junction is the worst official map. Hoodoo isn't far behind.

    • @celestia277
      @celestia277 8 років тому +10

      +Spence how dare you offend me :( i loveD dustbowl
      i love badwater now

  • @JoshabitheTogekiss
    @JoshabitheTogekiss 8 років тому +88

    Uncle Dane, at some point in the past: "I won't tell you what sentry spots to use, just show you how to pick them."
    Uncle Dane now: "So anyway here's the comp meta for Engie"

    • @Catilena1890
      @Catilena1890 8 років тому +19

      JoshabitheTogekiss The beginning of the video said he wasn't telling you HOW to engie, he is explaining why certain spots are good in comp. He still wants you to be creative and find your own sentry spots, but it is good to learn from example. Learning about the meta will help you understand it and add to it.

    • @allstarwamrackel524
      @allstarwamrackel524 7 років тому +7

      Two times I've won a comp match by having an entire team of battle engineers, there is no sure meta for engie comp.

    • @stormnova9757
      @stormnova9757 Рік тому

      "Time's change"

  • @puskajussi37
    @puskajussi37 8 років тому +38

    I had an weird idea. What if when placing a sneaky mini you put it backwards? imagine this
    Normally: 1. Enemy enters the mini's fov 2. Mini fires 3. Enemy notices this 4. Enemy backs up to safety 5. Enemy takes care of the sentry, end of scene
    Rotated: 1. Enemy enters fov 2. Mini starts to rotate 3. Enemy continues unaware of sentry 4. Sentry fires 5. Enemy has now no place to hide and hopefully will fall to the sentry.
    Sure its unreliable and extremely situational but maybe just something fun to test.

    • @puskajussi37
      @puskajussi37 8 років тому +3

      I know. Not much better but if you held the sentry still with the wrangler it doesn't make the noise.

    • @rotor7726
      @rotor7726 8 років тому +5

      puskajussi37 Wrangler has a big bubble but I love the idea. People ignore sentry sounds on pubs anyways.

    • @Chr0n0s38
      @Chr0n0s38 8 років тому +3

      Loud beeping noises are still silent when compared to the sound of a revved up heavy, or a soldier firing his rockets. The sounds of fighting on the frontline drown out the sound of a mini-sentry. The biggest concern would actually be the little light on the top of the gun.
      The bigger issue with the rotated gun is that it is slower to react. If an enemy does know about it, it's much easier to take out, and the rotation of the gun risks putting the front of the gun outside of where ever you're hiding it based on the shape of the bush/rock/plank/whatever.

    • @GhorsHammer
      @GhorsHammer 8 років тому +6

      I use this trap setup fairly often and it gets me kills I wouldn't have otherwise gotten using the same placements. The gun does beep, but the hit indicators are the much more obvious giveaway to its presence and location. It's not appropriate for every situation, but there are definitely areas where it works out well.

    • @CanisWTF
      @CanisWTF 7 років тому +2

      anyone else looking over the fact that you get an audible alert when an enemy sentry targets you? No? Ok.

  • @Herobrine0412
    @Herobrine0412 7 років тому +93

    Can you do a MvM map next?

    • @damidgetutubes1771
      @damidgetutubes1771 7 років тому +11

      Herobrine0412. That is a really good idea.

    • @Herobrine0412
      @Herobrine0412 7 років тому +2

      +Damidget utubes it is?

    • @damidgetutubes1771
      @damidgetutubes1771 7 років тому +9

      Herobrine0412. Yea, 90% of the time my sentry spots are innefective and my dispenser doesn't help my team... I honestly believe it would be very helpful.

    • @Herobrine0412
      @Herobrine0412 7 років тому +1

      +Damidget utubes wow same a bit

    • @jacksongaming854
      @jacksongaming854 5 років тому +1

      Easy just slap a nest near the robot spawns and win

  • @Lucanoptek
    @Lucanoptek 8 років тому +80

    "Coordinated push"
    In pubs.
    IN.PUBS.
    NO.JUST NO.

    • @VestedUTuber
      @VestedUTuber 4 роки тому +51

      Never heard of the "Pub Push"? It's when the game goes into overtime and everyone on blue realizes there's an objective, so they make a last-minute push. It often works.

    • @outspade
      @outspade 4 роки тому +1

      VestedUTuber I’m using this as official terminology now.

    • @guilhermegigeck5946
      @guilhermegigeck5946 4 роки тому +7

      You can get a pub team to cooperate. I usually am the single medic of the team, and since people need me to keep them in the fight I press the mic button and start calling the shots. The key to make them behave is to compliment their performance mid-opperation.

    • @Gofaw
      @Gofaw 3 роки тому

      Just let competent players know that you have uber and watch your teammates coordinate on their own

  • @zp6182
    @zp6182 8 років тому +136

    Just got home from school, duncle aane uploaded 20 mins ago.
    *happiness*

    • @rhodi112
      @rhodi112 8 років тому

      You just got home? I have to go to school soon ;-;

    • @zp6182
      @zp6182 8 років тому +2

      Jack McGillion Time zones mate. I live in the aussie zone, and every time I wake up in the morning there's something different everyday. Today I woke up and watched the logan trailer, read dead trailer, nintendo's new pad and the stylosa patch notes.

    • @thisisscoutrainbowsmakesme6914
      @thisisscoutrainbowsmakesme6914 8 років тому

      hello lost brother

    • @hordieliamisus3986
      @hordieliamisus3986 7 років тому +2

      ᆞ Zen "duncle aane"

    • @FlSKMASTER
      @FlSKMASTER 7 років тому +6

      *Duncle aane*

  • @ScaryTimes
    @ScaryTimes 8 років тому +108

    Good video for sphee mains so we can find all dem sentrys and keel dem engies

    • @financialproblems9308
      @financialproblems9308 8 років тому +14

      Anoonymoose but unkle dain is a very gud santry maim

    • @CombatGuardianHD
      @CombatGuardianHD 8 років тому +5

      But ankle dayne is a very gud stratigy

    • @zudy9067
      @zudy9067 8 років тому +2

      #savethedemomains

    • @croco3671
      @croco3671 8 років тому +1

      Anoonymoose *shpee

    • @Skyfoogle
      @Skyfoogle 8 років тому

      stickybomb launcher demo mains>sphees

  • @AEPPLE_MUSIC
    @AEPPLE_MUSIC 8 років тому +89

    I have a feeling this video will be glorious!
    Oh and cp_steel video please. That map is hard.

    • @nudnud9
      @nudnud9 8 років тому

      nuh

    • @gregorimeta962
      @gregorimeta962 8 років тому

      Apple or maybe because it's the weeks map?

    • @Chr0n0s38
      @Chr0n0s38 8 років тому

      Depends on how you play it. For offense, If you have a decent team, an early push to hold between C, B, and E can be very effective. Your team can effectively push 3 points without you needing to move, and if you have a team that can support you, that spot is very hard to dislodge. A spy can't take your tele since your entrance can be built in spawn (that's the one thing I hate about Steel actually, it renders a spy's ability to take teles completely useless). If you're fast enough, your team can push B from 2 sides, and can also push E if necessary to get the enemy to back off. Alternatively building between D, A, and E is a decent spot too. You don't really need to worry about being flanked, and your team can keep the pressure up for the last 2 points.
      I don't have time to go over defense atm, but the standard pub spots usually work fairly well.

    • @gregorimeta962
      @gregorimeta962 8 років тому

      Clnr0n05 I disagree,spy is almost useless in steel there are like a thousand ways to play steel as the spy though, 1 is to get a shit log, assist your sniper, keep white room with your soldier or scout, or just being a knife spy.

    • @Chr0n0s38
      @Chr0n0s38 8 років тому +1

      Gregori meta
      I never said spy was useless. I said that the spy's ability to take teleporters is useless for that map. I play spy all the time on Steel.

  • @Xellos976
    @Xellos976 7 років тому +26

    17:37 WTF!! I've been playing on upward for 4 years and I DID NOT know that xD

    • @mikepalmer1676
      @mikepalmer1676 4 роки тому +1

      I'm ashamed to say that I've been playing on Upward for 4-5 years and also did not know about that drop until watching this video. :(

  • @skoobydoobop7518
    @skoobydoobop7518 8 років тому

    Engineer education. Wonderful!
    This is like taking a night school class on the best aspects of engineering in the game. Taking all other classes into consideration as well as the pluses and minuses of each situation where you may ask yourself "where" and "why".
    This is exactly the kind of in depth video I'd expect from you. Well done and thanks.

  • @sonny19931
    @sonny19931 8 років тому +15

    17:35
    "It's pretty common for newer player to ignore this dropdown"
    I've been playing this game for a thousand fucking hours. Never realized that path existed. I feel so ashamed now

    • @vipp4047
      @vipp4047 7 років тому

      I've known about it (only like 500 hours) but I always forget it. Although once BLU manages to push, I can use that spot to flank, as you can put a tele exit there before you cap third.

  • @fanyar_
    @fanyar_ 8 років тому +51

    Ankle Dan is a very good Upwerd man.

  • @toxic_teaaa7810
    @toxic_teaaa7810 8 років тому +115

    haha, wrangler is banned in comp now
    sigh... so sade

  • @fattburger6801
    @fattburger6801 5 років тому +46

    PLEASE Engineer’s blueprints for Badwater!

    • @andrj8844
      @andrj8844 5 років тому

      thats goo common for people i think a more obscure map would be better

    • @idk8912
      @idk8912 4 роки тому +1

      Your wish has come true

    • @unknownuser8967
      @unknownuser8967 4 роки тому

      @@andrj8844 its also pretty good map for people to play. Not as good as Upward, but certainly well balanced. Of course people want Badwater. (Its a place where people play to actually learn, unlike 2 Fort).

    • @andrj8844
      @andrj8844 4 роки тому

      @Kat Ada Roselyn i only said it would be better, but i enjoyed the vid.

  • @serioussponge6416
    @serioussponge6416 6 років тому +17

    29:29 "Teleporter goin' BAM!"

  • @tater-art
    @tater-art 8 років тому +79

    That's cool, but the tele spots are going to be near impossible to sustain since your channel is SO popular ;-;

    • @freezeframe3533
      @freezeframe3533 8 років тому +54

      Spy's sapping my sentry

    • @jasonko9694
      @jasonko9694 8 років тому +1

      he quit tf2 tho

    • @theramman6608
      @theramman6608 8 років тому +5

      He actually began playing it again recently.

    • @cablekibble2942
      @cablekibble2942 8 років тому +4

      Actually, I think he just took a break from tf2 videos. He didn't even stop playing.

    • @boyactress6143
      @boyactress6143 7 років тому +13

      Some Random Warlock plenty of people know these spots and it's not like your sentry or teleporter is invisible. The enemy team can see it from a range. It doesn't matter if they know the classic spots or not

  • @Scienceboy0
    @Scienceboy0 8 років тому +19

    Thank you Dane! This is beyond anything you've ever done. The amount of dedication you put in this video is insane. This is something that is extremely helpful to everyone, and will last as long as the map itself. Dane, I am already adoring this series, and would love you to make one based on Lakeside.

  • @TheErer1243
    @TheErer1243 4 роки тому +22

    "its pretty common for newer players to ignore this drop down..." bro i didn't know about that until I had played well over 1000 hours

  • @daa2622
    @daa2622 2 роки тому

    Ive watched this a dozen times but I still come back again and again

  • @mrmcmcdonald2158
    @mrmcmcdonald2158 8 років тому +34

    soldiers in the shit house shooting rockets out the door, medics, heavys, scouts, and snipers laying on the floor. level three sentries firing down the tracks, destroying even the most well planed attacks

    • @nah456
      @nah456 7 років тому

      loved it
      more pls

  • @UndeadHavoc1
    @UndeadHavoc1 7 років тому +24

    3:23 Wait wait wait... y'can actually build in that li'l hole there? Huh... the more y'know.

  • @dogman15
    @dogman15 8 років тому +9

    I look forward to seeing you talk about cp_steel. Steel is so dynamic, and it's one of my favorite maps.

    • @Numbers225
      @Numbers225 5 років тому

      Steel is hydro but good

  • @horsesteam9173
    @horsesteam9173 2 роки тому

    can't believe this came out almost six years ago! I remember watching it when it was uploaded!

  • @friendblocks
    @friendblocks 6 років тому

    Great video, Dane. Teaches us about the map and how other people will be playing it, along with how we should play it ourselves

  • @realultraformerlyultranact6542
    @realultraformerlyultranact6542 4 роки тому +15

    I got an idea for a new construction PDA.
    Disposable PDA:
    Replaces the dispenser and teleporters with a mini-spenser and speed boosting pad.
    The Mini-Spenser:
    1 second build time.
    50 metal cost.
    Can build 2.
    5 health/second.
    Infinite ammo and metal.
    10% ammo regenerated per second.
    75 health per Mini-Spenser.
    Speed Boosting Pad:
    1.5 X walking speed for 1 - 3 - 5 seconds depending on level.
    160 metal build cost.
    Only 100 metal to upgrade.
    50 with Eureka Effect.
    (eureka effect increases walkspeed when 'teleporting' to exit)

    • @error_9059
      @error_9059 4 роки тому +1

      There is a mini-Spenser currently on the workshop so maybe this idea could get into the game if valve decides to actually update this game

    • @ashtongiertz8728
      @ashtongiertz8728 2 роки тому

      You didn't come up with that, you're just copying the scrapped engineer PDA concept.

  • @witlessconnor
    @witlessconnor 7 років тому +16

    8:18 HA! Jokes on you, I wear a unpainted Texas Ten Gallon! Good luck finding a yellow helmet!

  • @sentientlemonbattery
    @sentientlemonbattery 5 років тому +5

    Uncle Dane: Your Team should be playing in front of your sentry so it can be a backup dmg boi
    Also Uncle Dane:*places sentry right in front of the red tunnel on the 2nd point were it can get spammed*

  • @davidreeding9176
    @davidreeding9176 8 років тому +8

    Holy shit TF2 looks so pretty without high FPS configs installed...

    • @ashtongiertz8728
      @ashtongiertz8728 2 роки тому

      Honestly, the amount of stuff you can get rid of in the advanced video settings feels like cheating.

  • @TheBorous
    @TheBorous 8 років тому

    I watched the Intire video several times now I'm the master engi man on upward. Thank ya unkle dan

  • @SilentSoaperton
    @SilentSoaperton 8 років тому +9

    I once held second point by placing a level 3 Dispenser and Gun by the tunnel spawn. We had 2 heavies, a medic, a pyro, and myself all holed up in there protecting the cart. It was the first time I played Engineer well in my entire TF2 career, and I was happy.

  • @Patch_Z
    @Patch_Z 8 років тому +9

    3min in and I've been playing for about 4 years
    and I'm already Fucking mind blown

  • @mr.reality3167
    @mr.reality3167 8 років тому +16

    I don't even like playing as engineer but 90% of the time I am forced to play as one because the teams that I'm paired with neglect to have any sort of Defense so I have to watch your videos not saying they're bad or anything just I don't main engineer so I'm not particularly a good engineer luckily I'm not bad I'm just painfully average

    • @poyoho7947
      @poyoho7947 8 років тому +1

      mr. reality Same. If I'm not Medic, then I'm usually soldier or Heavy. I had to play Engie once cause we didn't have one, but after a while, the results remind me of Medic; it's great to help the team.
      Plus, it's awesome seeing your sentry kill people.

    • @mewtastic2409
      @mewtastic2409 8 років тому

      If my team doesn't have one(and sometimes if they do) I'll go Medic, my personal fave. It's similar to Engineer in that the more passive role plays a much bigger part in the game. And seeing that hp rise and my teamates push ahead makes me feel good, similar to a sentry denying a push.

    • @poyoho7947
      @poyoho7947 8 років тому +1

      It definitely feels good to help your teammates out. Even better when you use uber lol.
      If there aren't Heavies (and a decent amount of offense classes), then I'll go Heavy to protect the Medic's, basically be their meatsheld and throw sandviches.
      All the Medic's become my bitches after a few sandviches.

    • @mewtastic2409
      @mewtastic2409 8 років тому +1

      +Pope Potato I haven't played in awhile (no internet since May, kill me now), but I would always play half pocket by sticking close to the super pro Hale's Own stranges Heavy or Soldier(because they knew to fucking protect me and work together) while healing anyone nearby/in trouble. Otherwise, I just stick with the team. Also can Valve just fucking release an australium kritkrieg?! I've wanted that for over a year, and I have the perfect name! "Wunderwaffe DG3 JZ"

    • @mr.reality3167
      @mr.reality3167 8 років тому

      Yeah I usually Main Soldier Spy and medic so I know that feeling of being useful medic

  • @GentlemanBones
    @GentlemanBones 3 роки тому

    FACEIT has got me playing Upward with more balanced and competent teams lately, so I'm reviewing these videos to up my support game.

  • @randomdude-4353
    @randomdude-4353 4 роки тому

    "Just like Star Wars, if you have the high ground, you will win most engagements"
    A prequel memer? ONE OF US ONE OF US

  • @logmouth
    @logmouth 8 років тому +22

    I'd like to see one of these for a 5 cp map
    I love 2 minute videos

  • @Triangle1929
    @Triangle1929 6 років тому +5

    I just realized that the engineer can secretly be a mastermind leader through subtle placements of dispensers and teleporters

  • @tristanfrog
    @tristanfrog 8 років тому +7

    When i'm playing on Defense and my team is back on last, I like to put my sentry on the two stacked crates in main. It gives Blu quite a shock, and it isn't that easily taken by that corner.

  • @kuru9157
    @kuru9157 7 років тому

    If you're playing on defense as the second engineer on last, i recommend trying to build a lvl 3 sentry in the apartments to protect the sentry on the balcony. And then you can just shoot rescue ranger bolts at it. Then the only place blu team can use to destroy the sentry on the balcony is beneath the point w/ stickies (as long as you keep your sentry up). As a bonus you just completely gain control of the apartments.

  • @1230james
    @1230james 8 років тому

    12:10 I personally recommend putting the sentry towards the far left corner. That way, the sentry can shoot upwards (get it?) into the house if someone peaks or tries to push through. Just be sure to face more attacks, since moving the sentry farther left means BLU can fire at the sentry without pushing as far forward.

  • @ultrawinggaming9764
    @ultrawinggaming9764 8 років тому +16

    I say good chap, Mister Dane is a very great blueprint Man

    • @tooltiptinkerer
      @tooltiptinkerer 8 років тому +1

      By Joe, is he your uncle as well? I thought myself to be the only one! Hello, dear cousin!

    • @ultrawinggaming9764
      @ultrawinggaming9764 8 років тому

      Tooltip Tinkerer Why yess good chap,

    • @tooltiptinkerer
      @tooltiptinkerer 8 років тому

      Well, Bob's yer uncle(No pun intended), that's bloody bonkers!

  • @blobloblob0186
    @blobloblob0186 4 роки тому +12

    Dane: everyone will usually be facing forward
    Me: yeah but I'm a paranoid twitchy bugger who mains demo :)

  • @princesscadance197
    @princesscadance197 5 років тому +17

    “Let me know in the comments what map you’d like me to see talk about.”
    English 100

  • @toasterstroodle3527
    @toasterstroodle3527 4 роки тому +1

    i too love me some
    *passive agressive "heavy caliber tripod mounted lil ol number"*

  • @aghostlyhat
    @aghostlyhat 8 років тому

    Another good mini sentry spot would be by the playground, by the bunch of boxes by the A sign. When the Blu team pushes, they can easily see a reg sentry, but mini sentry is too short, so it could easily hit them when they move past. Good spot FYI

  • @sharklostworld
    @sharklostworld 8 років тому +8

    One dislike already. Huh
    How are you, Dane?

  • @Novakain.
    @Novakain. 3 роки тому +5

    5 years later. I don't play Engi. I don't even play TF2 anymore, and yet here I am. Very cool.

  • @mycereal
    @mycereal 3 роки тому +3

    5 Years leter, still the most educational video on the internet.

  • @TheSafeSword
    @TheSafeSword 3 роки тому +1

    Applied this knowledge on a match and from my average of 30 point, i got 104. Thanks uncle dane!

  • @HunterSkanvis
    @HunterSkanvis 8 років тому +1

    Some spots I'd have never thought of in this video, very useful! Could you do Foundry next please?

  • @r1singthorn4451
    @r1singthorn4451 7 років тому +5

    Engineer: "It's over Pyro I have the high ground!"
    Pyro: *Muffled noise* "You underestimate my power!"

  • @nigelfogelquist
    @nigelfogelquist 8 років тому +14

    Uncle Dane did you know there is a small area in front of playground which is perfect to put the teleporter.

    • @UncleDane
      @UncleDane  8 років тому +26

      I don't recommend it because when you take the teleporter, you appear right in front of where the Blu Snipers are always looking from spawn.

    • @Lucanoptek
      @Lucanoptek 8 років тому

      Uncle Dane what about put a sentry here ? Right behind the crates :0

    • @tooltiptinkerer
      @tooltiptinkerer 8 років тому +2

      @Voice Of Reason
      I'm no Uncle Dane, but I would advise against putting the sentry gun there. Seems a little easy to spam out by half-competent demomen without the sentry gun seeing anything.

    • @caos1925
      @caos1925 8 років тому

      I like to go there too but as a crouching brass beast heavy, by crouching you are safe from snipers, you don't need to move so the brassbeast is fine. Eventually people start corner shooting me, but then you just relocate and go back there later when they have let their guard down. If I'm feeling bold I'll sometimes pop my head over the corner and hoot a bit that way too.

    • @lonelyshpee7873
      @lonelyshpee7873 8 років тому

      Pretty good spot, but it doesn't work for too long, because if they find out, they'll spam it

  • @samcramer5554
    @samcramer5554 8 років тому +27

    Engineer's Blueprints: pl_barnblitz please

  • @suhaibanwer2252
    @suhaibanwer2252 8 років тому

    Videos like this deserve more love

  • @egoMerchant
    @egoMerchant 7 років тому

    I made a small aggressive strategy on the first point, the long exit out of blu spawn, right outside of that exit but the out of sight place, with a good team that helps kill spies and those that try to break my defence, it works well, if you find a sniper at the other spawn exit, wrangle them, and your primary doesn't matter, I once held a whole match with it, killing spies with the shotgun, but if you wanna be more secure, take the rescue ranger to survive an uber with the me-, mefis-, mefista-? Whatever it's called when you wrangle the sentry and use the ranger to save it. If it doesn't work at first *dont keep trying*, they'll stop you. Hope this helps you in future endeavours. :)
    Edit: I forgot to say that that place is where you place the sentry and you keep a dispenser to the exact behind of that room for survivabilty *fp*

  • @failsafe091
    @failsafe091 5 років тому +5

    Hey Dane, my favorite spot for a nest on Upward is inside of the apartments by the red spawn near the tunnels. It’s an AMAZING spot. Try it. It does encourage a little bit of turtle engie though. Put your sentry gun in the window. Have the dispenser in the corner opposite of the small ammo pack, and put a teleporter exit beside the dispenser. Once again, it’s a good spot.

  • @arvidbergman
    @arvidbergman 8 років тому +20

    please put these in a playlist when you´ve made more vids like this

  • @chriss5384
    @chriss5384 8 років тому +9

    Dane why are you uploading at like 1 a'clock in the morning?

    • @iggcraft449
      @iggcraft449 8 років тому

      manta Ray Different timezone he uploaded like at 2:42

    • @Joshua-wj7bd
      @Joshua-wj7bd 8 років тому +1

      manta Ray it takes very long to upload videos especielly a 40 min one

    • @odyssey4500
      @odyssey4500 8 років тому

      its 8:25am here right now because of different timezones

    • @shunoinori
      @shunoinori 8 років тому +12

      shhh timezones are a myth

    • @elizabethbrooks2003
      @elizabethbrooks2003 8 років тому +1

      Ninjutsu Toad™ No... No they aren't...

  • @newman6434
    @newman6434 5 років тому

    On the second point i like to put my sentry up near the giant B next to the stairs that lead to the small health and amo packs. It covers the point and tunnel exit. You can wrangle the hill and flank pretty easily. Its up high and far from peaking points so its hard to take out if the engie is attentive. Its also hard to uber push because of the distance from the peaking points so if you got the ranger, you can time the pickup and place it in the passive area while they are running for it. By the time the get near the passive area, your sentry is up and theyre outta uber.

  • @notkevin9207
    @notkevin9207 5 років тому

    When Dane started talking about the bushes for the first point, the only thing that went through my head was when Travingal said “this fucking bush in upward” in that one soundsmith video.

  • @novapariah8135
    @novapariah8135 8 років тому +15

    Dane, PLEASE do a guide on the Gunslinger and its uses!

    • @UncleDane
      @UncleDane  8 років тому +16

      :)

    • @novapariah8135
      @novapariah8135 8 років тому +2

      Sen-bae noticed me!

    • @OmeganExperience
      @OmeganExperience 8 років тому

      YOU SPIN ME RIGHT AROUND BABY RIGHT AROUND, YOU SPIN ME..... okay i'll stop with zeno's memez

    • @novapariah8135
      @novapariah8135 8 років тому

      Ali hu Wut...
      I mean, I saw that video, but...

  • @spidermanfan31
    @spidermanfan31 8 років тому +8

    I have a question. In earlier videos, you mention not wanting to point out specific sentry spots because you fear everyone might use those specific spots and only those spots, and thus you went into what makes a sentry spot "good". Why did you change your mind?

    • @mrgfdge
      @mrgfdge 8 років тому +11

      well I mean, in the introduction he did say that the guide should be followed loosely and he has mentioned many building spots in this video, so even if someone were to follow the guide exactly, there's still a lot of different options they can take

    • @SpicyDingo
      @SpicyDingo 8 років тому +3

      Grandmaster Adobe Flash It really doesn't matter. He is telling the spots to make engineers more effective and it is an excellent guide to teach where to put sentries dispensers and teles

    • @noahbradley4146
      @noahbradley4146 8 років тому +1

      Grandmaster Adobe Flash He also gives people a list of different spots, not just one or two. People who want to use his spots are still gonna be varying it up.

    • @vincent-ls9lz
      @vincent-ls9lz 8 років тому +1

      Grandmaster Adobe Flash
      In his intro video, he had FAQs. Go read that

    • @Reeser-th5kl
      @Reeser-th5kl 8 років тому

      Grandmaster Adobe Flash he wast a vary gud Santry mem back then