The Tragic Death of Babe Paley. The Last Swan.

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  • Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
  • Immerse yourself in the captivating and poignant story of Babe Paley, the quintessential icon of beauty and elegance, in our latest historical deep dive. As the FX series 'Feud: Truman Capote vs. The Swans' continues to enchant viewers, we bring to life the lesser-known yet equally compelling tale of Babe Paley, Truman Capote's first Swan and a symbol of an era's end.
    This video meticulously unfolds the life of Babe Paley, once hailed as the most beautiful woman of the 20th century. We delve into her privileged upbringing, strategic marriage to CBS founder William S. Paley, and her role as a reluctant muse in New York's glittering high society.
    Experience the intricacies of Babe's complex relationship with Truman Capote, the literary genius who both adored and betrayed her. We uncover the emotional impact of Capote's 'La Côte Basque 1965', the piece that irreparably damaged their friendship and left Babe isolated in her most vulnerable time.
    As Babe battles lung cancer in secrecy and grace, witness the transformation of her relationships and the poignant solitude of her final days. Her meticulously planned funeral, a testament to her enduring elegance, marked not just the end of her journey but the conclusion of a bygone era of discretion and glamour.
    Join us in this emotional journey through Babe Paley's life, a narrative filled with triumphs, tragedies, and unspoken betrayals. The Death of Babe Paley and an era. Like, share, and subscribe for more in-depth explorations into history's most fascinating figures. #BabePaley #TrumanCapote #FeudCapoteVsTheSwans #EleganceAndBetrayal #EndOfAnEra #HighSocietySecrets #UntoldBiographies #GlamourAndTragedy #NewYorkSociety #IconicWomenOfHistory"
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  • @eviehammond9509
    @eviehammond9509 6 місяців тому +86

    The more I hear about Truman Capote, the less I want to hear about Truman Capote.

    • @aiai-j7i
      @aiai-j7i 6 місяців тому +4

      I found him so repulsive in the series--hardly a redeeming quality. That goes to show how wonderful an actor Tom Hollander is.

    • @golden8972
      @golden8972 6 місяців тому +1

      Same.

    • @MARYREED-nh7gb
      @MARYREED-nh7gb 3 дні тому

      Well said!

  • @TheFinalBoss316
    @TheFinalBoss316 6 місяців тому +106

    Depressing how many people here are insulting Babe Paley for her looks. In the 1940s she was considered one of the most beautiful women in the world, reading through the comments everyone simply wants to say she isn't beautiful. How harsh people are? No wonder so many women feel insecure.

    • @SJ-ni6iy
      @SJ-ni6iy 6 місяців тому +6

      Personality and style goes a long way in making a person seem attractive. I think there’s celebrities today who are considered beautiful because of their style- Blake Lively and Lady GaGa come to mind.

    • @Spook2431NYC
      @Spook2431NYC 6 місяців тому +4

      Haters gonna hate...she Bane was STUNNING & Commanding beautiful, graceful, elegant pressence...

    • @samanthab1923
      @samanthab1923 6 місяців тому +1

      I do think it’s odd.

    • @monicanelson7499
      @monicanelson7499 6 місяців тому +4

      She was gorgeous. I think her beauty was more than how she looked and dressed…She was a true lady. From all the things I’ve read about her, she just had a presence that was captivating. I think she must have been under enormous pressure all the time, she never really found the love she deserved, there are so few pictures of her where she really seems happy….but when she smiles, it is everything! Whoever said, “They don’t make them like Babe anymore,” was so right! 😢

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  6 місяців тому +3

      @@monicanelson7499 It is interesting about her smiling, if you notice in the pictures she is always very self conscious about her mouth. I imagine it had a lot to do with the teeth and the fear that at the wrong moment they would fall out. I wanted so much to include more images of her smiling, sadly they just do not exist.

  • @TheFinalBoss316
    @TheFinalBoss316 6 місяців тому +186

    His stories about Ann Woodward, led directly to her suicide, I understand he had a tragic childhood, but the harm he caused other people was unforgivable. Horrible man.

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  6 місяців тому +28

      I agree with you. I am going to cover this in the next video. Capote had just finished 'In Cold Blood' and he was looking for his next True Crime novel, and what he did to Woodward was absolutely hideous.

    • @juicyjules7409
      @juicyjules7409 6 місяців тому +4

      Yes

    • @lewismusser7184
      @lewismusser7184 6 місяців тому +7

      WOW! Can't wait for the next video. The melding of "In Cold Blood" , which was true and meticulously researched juxtaposed against a personal vendetta bereft of provable "facts" will be enthralling, no doubt! And you've got the literary chops and narrator skills to really do it up. P.S.Regarding Babe... the inordinate strength she showed at the end of her life in many ways defined her. Practically eshuing her husband and Capote. It so reminds me of Shaw's Candida, from his play of the same name. When she is practically cornered at the end of the show by her minister husband and the young poet,Marchbanks,who is also vying for her love... they try to force her to make a choice! And Candida pauses and says, "I choose MYSELF!" That's exactly what Babe did, too. ❤💪❤​@@MythicMindScape21

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  6 місяців тому +7

      @@lewismusser7184 Great to hear from you again, thank you so much for your support. I'm thrilled to hear that you're looking forward to the upcoming video on Ann Woodward. Indeed, the contrast between Truman Capote's factual rigor in 'In Cold Blood' and the more personal, perhaps less factual narratives in his social circles, (never let truth get in the way of a good story' The Mark Twain quote, was a motto often used by Truman) offers a fascinating study in storytelling and motive. It's these rich, complex layers of history and human behavior that make delving into these stories so compelling. The script for this one is extremely exciting, as there is so much to tell. Capote and Ann were similar in so many ways, and her life was not dissimilar to his very own mothers'. From the name change, to the New York move, to the social circles to the suicide when faced with ostracism. The challenge in making the video is what not to include really.
      Your comparison of Babe Paley to Candida in Shaw's play is particularly astute. Like Candida, Babe's decision to choose herself in the face of personal turmoil was a profound assertion of strength and self-determination. It's these moments of personal resolve, often hidden behind public personas, that truly define the legacies of such remarkable individuals. Babe was a product of her time, and many judge her by the standards of today, which I find unfair, but all are entitled to their opinions.
      Your insights not only enrich the conversation but also underscore the nuanced intersections of literature, history, and personal narratives. I'm grateful for your engagement and support, and I hope to continue providing content that sparks such meaningful discussions. Stay tuned for the Ann Woodward video, and once again, thank you. ❤

    • @lewismusser7184
      @lewismusser7184 6 місяців тому

      ​You are the absolute Bomb 💣 I have the soundtrack album of" In Cold Blood", scored by a young Quincy Jones and it's unsettling Jazz genre underscores every aspect of the tragic story. Seems like I play it after every exchange with you. It's not " easy listening", but the movie is pretty hard to watch, too. .​@@MythicMindScape21

  • @thelinguist3683
    @thelinguist3683 6 місяців тому +71

    Babe was a tragic character. I don't understand how Truman thought she would forgive him.

    • @anastasiayatsenuk
      @anastasiayatsenuk 6 місяців тому +1

      He probably didnt really care

    • @margaretbarra6390
      @margaretbarra6390 6 місяців тому +2

      He was a masterclass in self destruction

    • @kwill84
      @kwill84 6 місяців тому +2

      He was an alcoholic. They can be incredibly destructive and self serving

    • @aiai-j7i
      @aiai-j7i 6 місяців тому +2

      He was a true narcissist and thought he would unconditionally love her, unlike his mother.

    • @margaretbarra6390
      @margaretbarra6390 6 місяців тому

      @@kwill84 he might have also been traumatized and depressed at a time when neither thing was treated

  • @PerpetuallyTori
    @PerpetuallyTori 6 місяців тому +38

    Having a friend like Truman is like having a friend who cautions you about the snakes around you only to find the snake was him. I would go to my deathbed never speaking another word to a “friend” like that. What a toxic person.

    • @jimwelch9021
      @jimwelch9021 6 місяців тому +3

      Amen !!!!! He was a sneaky snake. Someone you should never confide in. I've learned the hard way over the years. It's so crushing when one is betrayed. 😢

    • @anastasiayatsenuk
      @anastasiayatsenuk 6 місяців тому +2

      He openly threatened his friends with words like "you do me wrong, you might end up in my book". They should have known better after he betrayed the first "friend"

    • @lotus1695
      @lotus1695 2 місяці тому

      Absolutely despicable man! Worse than the devil himself!
      Shame! R.I.P.

    • @Max-qi3hg
      @Max-qi3hg 13 днів тому

      @@PerpetuallyTori the situation wasn't quite that simple. He didn't turn on them until the very end when he was consumed with drugs and alcohol. His addictions likely caused his ultimate betrayal of them. And they were all very pompous and greedy. Most of them had sold their souls. They were not great people. And none of them had the talent that Capote did.

  • @annresnik6059
    @annresnik6059 6 місяців тому +32

    Her life has a morality story: do not marry rich and believe that love doesn't matter. You will be unhappy

    • @annresnik6059
      @annresnik6059 6 місяців тому +1

      And she was used as an object by Truman, too. Poor woman, though it all could have been predicted

    • @selenachan4230
      @selenachan4230 4 місяці тому

      Ok, but @ that time and in her social circle, w/o any marketable skllls, how will she maintain her standard of living? Working @ vogue doesn't pay for penthouses and staff. Marrying a millionaire does.
      No, it doesn't solve everything. But, it solves many day to day problems. Fixing the roof, buying a house in good neighborhoods. Good schools. This requires money, honey.
      Dont forget the most successful of them all. Jackie Onassis. Her mother drilled into her to marry for $$$ and stability. Janet's first marriage to Jackie's dad was Janet's f7ck boy. Janet had no $$ to give to Jackie or sister Lee.

  • @jamesaria1204
    @jamesaria1204 6 місяців тому +17

    It's so so important to make sure you're friends are sincere friends. Sometimes it might take a certain situation to realize they're not.

  • @katerinagiannioudi401
    @katerinagiannioudi401 6 місяців тому +12

    Truman was a spoiled, mean person that cared only for himself.

  • @Linda-pw8gx
    @Linda-pw8gx 6 місяців тому +37

    Babes life was so sad, I really can’t believe Truman would do that to her, how betrayed she must have felt. Your video is excellent❤

  • @sugarcookiecube
    @sugarcookiecube 6 місяців тому +10

    It is puzzling why so many beautiful, rich women wanted to be in capote’s orbit when he hated women.🤔

  • @jasontibbetts9981
    @jasontibbetts9981 6 місяців тому +29

    I liked Breakfast at Tiffany's and the character was based on Carol Saroyan, but at some point Truman lost himself, and to write the stuff he did at the end like a gossip columnist was shameful. He had sympathy for Holly Golightly, he had none for the people he considered his best friends. I suppose that was the fame, the ego, the drugs, and the alcohol.

    • @samanthab1923
      @samanthab1923 6 місяців тому +3

      Mrs. Walter Matthau

    • @biff5856
      @biff5856 6 місяців тому +1

      Ego, drugs, and alcohol have a way of doing that. I thought Capote was a great writer. I don't care for what he did to the townspeople of Holcomb. He exploited their misery for his own benefit. Capote as far as a person was a mincing little maggot.

  • @chrismathis4162
    @chrismathis4162 6 місяців тому +8

    It’s hard for me to feel too much sympathy for these “Swans”. They willingly exchange their dignity and self respect for a life of luxury.

  • @reidx512
    @reidx512 6 місяців тому +10

    Wow, amazing work once again... Babe was stunning. My Grandmother used to talk about the couple of times she would come to Kentucky. (sales) Oddly she kept the teeth thing kinda hidden but in those circles very few things are personal. Ugh, to Truman, I have never cared for him, as I love books, and I should like his work. However, HE was just a mean and silly little girl, that was jealous. Truman was a MEAN girl, and all of his swans or ducks, deserved better.

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  6 місяців тому +2

      Thank you so much for the comment. In the end though he hurt himself most of all, he had few friends, and even Lee betrayed him in the end over the issue with Gore Vidal. Our next video will be on Lee and Jackie and we will talk about the issue with her and Truman as part of it. I'm really glad to have you here, thanks for the warm words.

    • @reidx512
      @reidx512 6 місяців тому +1

      @@MythicMindScape21 Oh wow, an amazing mind he had.... Love his work, I really can learn from him. Can't wait... Blessings

  • @buddhahoo1
    @buddhahoo1 6 місяців тому +3

    Great video with many pictures I’ve never seen before. Thank you, I’m now subscribed.

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  6 місяців тому +1

      Thank you so much. We will make a new video for next Friday. Hope you will enjoy.

    • @buddhahoo1
      @buddhahoo1 6 місяців тому +2

      @@MythicMindScape21 Yay look forward to it

  • @dblanc3870
    @dblanc3870 15 днів тому +1

    I'm surprised some humans don't understand that beauty is so much more than a still. The way a woman moves, the way she speaks, the way she sits, and carries herself. There are so many things that augment beauty: the sound of her laugh, her demeanor, her vulnerability, everything. She very well may have been absolutely beautiful.

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  15 днів тому

      It troubles me as well that so many people from the year 2024, simply write. 'She was not beautiful'. I did a video on Lillie Langtry and she would certainly not be considered beautiful by today's standards. We can only go by what people said at the time.

  • @yarbisallee7501
    @yarbisallee7501 6 місяців тому +25

    Being grotesquely superficial has its downside

    • @MegAplin
      @MegAplin 6 місяців тому +5

      I don't think she was superficial at all. Those were the times. People didn't go out to dinner in sweat pants and tee shirts. It would be nice to be at least somewhere in the middle. Bring back some class.

    • @Karl-dd4om
      @Karl-dd4om 5 місяців тому +1

      @@MegAplin People nowadays walk around like bums, no class at all!

    • @MARYREED-nh7gb
      @MARYREED-nh7gb 3 дні тому +1

      She wasn't superficial. In fact, it is superficial for you to say that. She was brought up like so many women of her time, to be defined by her husband. It was only in the 1970 - 1980s that things began to change. With regard to Babe, she was very generous to many charities that benefited New York. She always was looking for excellence in areas of dress, interior design, architecture, preservation of various landmarks, MOMA, and NY Public Library. She was interested in so many things but preferred to work behind the scenes. She was also very, very intelligent. And as a result of an auto accident early on, was never out of pain.
      But don't take my word for it. Go read the articles she wrote.

    • @yarbisallee7501
      @yarbisallee7501 3 дні тому

      @@MARYREED-nh7gb apologist for vapidness ok have at it

  • @islesofshoals3551
    @islesofshoals3551 6 місяців тому +11

    She ignored her children and paid the price

    • @aprilgosa5779
      @aprilgosa5779 5 місяців тому

      her mother taught her that way we don't really know that she did not care for her kids her granddaughter said she was a good woman

  • @stephaniejaniczekssmugglerscan
    @stephaniejaniczekssmugglerscan 6 місяців тому +26

    Ava Gardner, Marilyn Monroe, Grace Kelly, and Liz
    Taylor might debate the most beautiful….

    • @jasontibbetts9981
      @jasontibbetts9981 6 місяців тому +10

      These women were children when Babe was given that moniker in the 1940s. Opinions on beauty change.

    • @lewismusser7184
      @lewismusser7184 6 місяців тому +6

      Ava Gardner tops your list and justifiably so. A true siren. From a hardscrabble rural crossroads called Grabtown in eastern North Carolina, she went from dirt poor to fabulously wealthy in terms of money and men. Unlike a Swan, she was the entire pond! And everyone wanted to jump in....Ava was a pistol alright and an absolute world-beater. In the end, she returned home and is buried in Smithfield, North Carolina. When she heard her former husband, Frank Sinatra, had married Mia Farrow, Ava commented," I always knew he'd end up in bed with a boy". Good thing Frank and Mia showed up at Capote's Black and White Ball, because Ava would have completely stolen the show!!!!!

    • @davidwright873
      @davidwright873 6 місяців тому +6

      I thought Ann Margaret pretty awesome looking.

    • @MegAplin
      @MegAplin 6 місяців тому +2

      ​​@lewismusser7184 She loved Welsh Corgi.....she sadly smoked herself out. Bless her. With the group of actresses and Babe..different era. But, Babe could hold her own with them in her time,

    • @lewismusser7184
      @lewismusser7184 6 місяців тому +1

      @@MegAplin did not know about Ava's K9 preferences.She is without doubt the biggest star to ever come out of the Tar Heel state and is revered to this day here. You are so right about Babe,any female or male's equal. The bar she set invites the likes of Ava into consideration.And Ms.Gardner more than fills the bill 💸💵💅👄👁️👁️

  • @hankdavis5342
    @hankdavis5342 5 місяців тому +4

    Beautiful lady but sad lonely life !

  • @mfredcourtney5876
    @mfredcourtney5876 6 місяців тому +8

    Her life was a contradiction. She had everything and yet nothing. I really feel pity for her. Deep down I hope and want her to be a good person. Perhaps I'm wrong. She did not deserve the life she eventually led. Many lessons to be learned.

  • @stefaniekuzminski9575
    @stefaniekuzminski9575 3 місяці тому

    Good Lord I am enjoying your channel and binge watching. Thank you ❤. Please keep this up!! 😊

  • @shaunamarie1053
    @shaunamarie1053 6 місяців тому +6

    Truman was wild for that.

  • @yococomanolo
    @yococomanolo 5 місяців тому

    The Swans are all fascinating to me but Babe just stands out

  • @cmarq817
    @cmarq817 2 місяці тому +1

    After the Feud series I read and searched more about her.
    So sad 😢

  • @roadrunner381
    @roadrunner381 6 місяців тому +2

    Your really good at narrating these stories, i like your style, new subscriber!👍

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  6 місяців тому +1

      Thank you so much. :) We will be releasing a new video next Friday. Hope you will enjoy it.

  • @BrighterThanYours
    @BrighterThanYours 6 місяців тому +1

    People are angry about Truman being Truman. Most artists are deeply flawed people. How else do you think they’re able to see the world so differently than another? Breakfast at Tiffany’s people…. Breakfast at Tiffany’s….

  • @mitchellfelder2420
    @mitchellfelder2420 6 місяців тому +2

    Her father was one of the greatest neurosurgeons of the twentieth century.

  • @jamesl9371
    @jamesl9371 6 місяців тому +5

    Trusting Truman?
    Ridiculous

  • @rainey1987
    @rainey1987 6 місяців тому +5

    If you villainize Truman you clearly don't understand history and you're just responding to that stupid show. He was one of our Generations greatest writers and all writers use inspiration from their lives. These weren't great people he wrote about either. They were known racists xenophobes and classists.. Don't let the Slick glamour fool you

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  6 місяців тому +1

      How do you feel I am villainizing him? It is interesting, I try to tell the story as fairly as possible. I have an entire video on his tragic childhood.

    • @rainey1987
      @rainey1987 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@MythicMindScape21oh, no, not your video, my comment is more in response to the people in the comments that I've seen not just on this video but all over UA-cam about what a villain and how evil Truman was for writing answered prayers. But I feel like a lot of people missed the point about what he was trying to say with answered prayers

    • @kencockrell3977
      @kencockrell3977 4 місяці тому

      Capote was talented, but was a lying ahole.

  • @cw5451
    @cw5451 6 місяців тому +1

    I am surprised that Babe’s and Bill’s grave markers are so simple. I would’ve expected something more ornate.

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  6 місяців тому +2

      I was too.

    • @jamesgordon2255
      @jamesgordon2255 6 місяців тому

      Perhaps John Warnecke was busy at that time….teehee…!

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  6 місяців тому

      @@jamesgordon2255 Interesting, the man who designed JFK's grave. Do you believe the stories of him and Jackie?

  • @cynthiarouse
    @cynthiarouse 5 місяців тому +2

    *All that glitters is a golden trap*

  • @lbelton8886
    @lbelton8886 6 місяців тому

    Their lives would have been no less sad & superficial than had Capote not chosen to write about them at all.

  • @lois.17
    @lois.17 6 місяців тому +5

    Great video. But why end of era. Women like this still exist just there is no publicity surrounding them

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  6 місяців тому +3

      Good question, while this is merely an opinion. We called it that for a few reasons
      1. End of the Glamorous Socialite Era: Babe Paley represented a period in American history when the activities of high society figures were followed with great interest by the public. This era was characterized by a kind of glamour and elegance that was epitomized by Paley and her contemporaries. Her death symbolized the end of this particular kind of social celebrity.
      2. Shift in Cultural Values: The late 1970s and early 1980s marked a significant shift in cultural values and interests. There was a move away from the fascination with the aristocratic lifestyles of the elite, as society began to place more value on different kinds of celebrity - notably those in entertainment and business.
      3. Decline of the 'Swans': Babe Paley was one of the so-called "Swans," a group of high-society women who were famous for their beauty, elegance, and fashion sense. These women, including Slim Keith, C.Z. Guest, and Gloria Guinness, were icons of their time, celebrated for their style and social status. Paley's death marked not only the physical passing of one of these figures but also symbolized the fading of this exclusive group from public consciousness.
      4. Changing Media Landscape: The era of Paley and her contemporaries was also one where media coverage of socialites was deferential and glamourized. By the late 1970s, the rise of more aggressive and investigative forms of journalism began to change how public figures were covered, leading to a more intrusive and less idealized portrayal of the lives of the wealthy and famous.
      Sorry for the long response, 🤣🤣your question was an interesting one and I wanted to give you the reasons as to why it is often thought of as the end of an era.

    • @lewismusser7184
      @lewismusser7184 6 місяців тому +3

      ​@@MythicMindScape21A TOUCHE' TREATISE! Bravo! Author, Author!!!!......any more questions,hmm?

    • @lewismusser7184
      @lewismusser7184 6 місяців тому

      @@MythicMindScape21 Thanks

    • @lewismusser7184
      @lewismusser7184 6 місяців тому

      @@MythicMindScape21 rock on

  • @massimosquecco8956
    @massimosquecco8956 28 днів тому +1

    If Barbara, at the mellow certain point, had told Paley to go F himself, probably she have put him in his place into their relationship, and she would have lived further for some extra happy years. She was in the position to do it, but Capote never gave her advise, that was the input she needed because he wanted she was unhappy as he was. Horrible person, certainly not a friend! Yes I red his books when 16-18 yo. I would never now!

  • @clarisahernandez5280
    @clarisahernandez5280 5 місяців тому +1

    Indeed it's sad.

  • @bar10ml44
    @bar10ml44 Місяць тому +1

    Sadness and pain for the rich and the poor but I'd rather be rich.

  • @Max-qi3hg
    @Max-qi3hg 13 днів тому

    This is an accurate video. In a sense, she was a victim of her mom. Capotes Women was a great book about the general subject. A lesson on life and human behavior.

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  13 днів тому +1

      I agree. That was one of the book's I used in researching her story. Wonderful book.

  • @susanjoycesabo8450
    @susanjoycesabo8450 6 місяців тому +3

    IMO Babe was stunningly beautiful but such a sad figure--like a bird in a gilded cage. These social butterflies were the ultimate narcissists and valued only themselves and their superficial traits.
    I just read an article in an online magazine from Babe's granddaughter (daughter of Amanda). She was only 8 when Babe died; she is now middle-aged. Article stated that she did not know the Babe of "Feud". The grandmother she knew was funny, generous and very loving towards her family. Babe Paley was more complex than the cold diva of the Fx series--thank goodness. But I understand that Fx portrayed an exaggerated persona for literary license.

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  6 місяців тому

      Capote himself said ' 'i think the only person a writer has an obligation to is himself'

    • @biff5856
      @biff5856 6 місяців тому

      I agree 100%. Sort of similar to Diana saying she always wanted a simple life. Hah. Well she made her choice. Not exactly the girl next door. Babe could have done her own thing. No one put a gun to her head. I'm just not sympathetic towards these types. They have it all. WTF do they want out of life?

    • @MegAplin
      @MegAplin 6 місяців тому

      ​@biff5856 what everyone wants, love....happiness. it's quite simple. But, very true.

    • @biff5856
      @biff5856 6 місяців тому

      @@MegAplin But going about it in a counterproductive way. Besides it certainly didn't hurt that Billy boy had money and prestige and power.

    • @MegAplin
      @MegAplin 6 місяців тому

      ​​@@biff5856 Babe was a Cushing...(father famous physician) and her first husband was a Mortimer..... she was always monied. Babe opened doors for Paley..(certain places and circles were prejudiced, which is horrible in itself).

  • @bombast718
    @bombast718 6 місяців тому +12

    "The beautiful woman is the world", you say???? Oh dear.

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  6 місяців тому +10

      She was considered one of the most beautiful women in the world in the 1940s. I am not making any judgement on her appearance. I am telling the story.

    • @michelleadams474
      @michelleadams474 6 місяців тому +6

      She was beautiful!

    • @SJ-ni6iy
      @SJ-ni6iy 6 місяців тому +1

      She wouldn’t get a second glance in today’s world but her money would buy her the same face, that every other rich woman is currently wearing.

    • @michelleadams474
      @michelleadams474 6 місяців тому +3

      @@SJ-ni6iy Well in today's world she would be styled differently.... her hair, etc., this was a different time so she was suited for it.

    • @SJ-ni6iy
      @SJ-ni6iy 6 місяців тому +3

      @@michelleadams474 she doesn’t have features that are classically beautiful. She’s an attractive, average looking woman.

  • @grwoobie1297
    @grwoobie1297 6 місяців тому +10

    The Cushing sisters were hardly pretty but certainly ahead of the game with being too thin.

  • @Dee-743
    @Dee-743 6 місяців тому +2

    Money does not buy happiness.

  • @waynejones750
    @waynejones750 6 місяців тому +2

    How bloody sad❤

  • @elphiegleason3899
    @elphiegleason3899 6 місяців тому +1

    That poor woman
    He was a brilliant writer in his earlier days, but that does not excuse Capote being a complete dick to those women.. the women were fucking vicious to each other.

  • @bbdc1977-sg8dc
    @bbdc1977-sg8dc 6 місяців тому +13

    She certainly WASN'T the most beautiful woman of the 20th century. Hardly the most beautiful woman in the world. These women were raised and molded for only one thing, MONEY !

    • @SJ-ni6iy
      @SJ-ni6iy 6 місяців тому

      She’d just get a brand new face like Cher, Khloe Kardashian or Kylie Jenner.

  • @DreamGirl650
    @DreamGirl650 6 місяців тому +3

    Definitely not beautiful…just thin and well put together. The makeup, hair, and impeccable style. Money can do a lot.

  • @queenofwater8783
    @queenofwater8783 6 місяців тому +25

    Elegant, ok. Most beautiful in the world? No.

    • @TheFinalBoss316
      @TheFinalBoss316 6 місяців тому +2

      It was just after world war 2, when she was given than label. People had different ideas of beauty 80 years ago.

    • @davidwright873
      @davidwright873 6 місяців тому +1

      Kinda stork like

    • @MrJoseoz
      @MrJoseoz 6 місяців тому +1

      Shut ya pie hole

    • @daisy4750
      @daisy4750 4 місяці тому +1

      Just like today. The women they say are beautiful to me are not beautiful at all. The full, big lips (ugly, fake) and big butts (so obscene and ugly looking),and straight, flat hair.

    • @twistoffate4791
      @twistoffate4791 Місяць тому

      ​@davidwright873 Make that a stork dying of starvation. But she had enough money to buy the best clothes, the best makeup, and to pay the best hairdresser. Those advantages sure would help a gal.

  • @emeraldforcier14
    @emeraldforcier14 5 місяців тому +2

    I guess she was elegant, well dressed, made-up and all, but this woman wasn’t beautiful, much less the most beautiful woman around.

  • @lillianmcgrew217
    @lillianmcgrew217 6 місяців тому +1

    So sad 😔 ❤❤

  • @christinah.8504
    @christinah.8504 6 місяців тому +3

    I wonder if her outstanding wardrobe and beautifully decorated apartments and homes comforted her while her husband cheated on her without shame or remorse?

  • @jeffpagan7735
    @jeffpagan7735 6 місяців тому +9

    I guess she had that aristocratic horse face beauty that rich people have sometimes.

  • @Joanla1954
    @Joanla1954 6 місяців тому +1

    No, no, Truman, only Jesus is perfect and you're in eternity now with 100% knowledge of that.

  • @lesyeuxsansvisage1157
    @lesyeuxsansvisage1157 6 місяців тому +1

    What I find rather fascinating, is what people presume to know, versus the thoughts and opinions of those who knew these people, versus the actual truth according to the people who experienced these things….versus the truth itself.
    There is an odd presumptive nature to your videos, where it is quite obvious you are dead set on loathing Capote. It’s rather bizarre. You aren’t family or a friend of those involved, and you weren’t there to hear anything, which would make everything presumption.
    It’s fascinating, the assumptions one makes, or how they like to feel they KNOW someone, from possible shared experience…except it’s not. I’m a survivor of rape, but I do not presume to understand what another has experienced. I can understand being violated, and abused, but the experience is singular and unique for each.
    Looking at the comments, it’s just interesting to see your demographic, and how you handle these stories. It isn’t without bias, which taints the whole picture. Unfortunate, really.
    Oh, and those watching, if you are going to call Capote a “Vile little gay man,” maybe consider why his being gay, had anything to do with your comment, on things you only know, from watching a Ryan Murphy show of all things.
    Cheerio!

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  6 місяців тому

      Interesting comment and rather presumptuous assuming my sources are a mini series. I have an entire video on the tragic childhood of Truman Capote. And my sources are books, not the Ryan Murphy series. Sources include, The Swan's of Fifth Avenue, The biography of Truman Capote, Capote's women, Deliberate Cruelty , The Lives and Times of the Fabulous Cushing Sisters, and the biography on Jackie and Lee Bouvier. So indeed all my sources are from 'people who knew these people'. I am a historian, and chose those sources, and give what the actual people said, trying as much as possible to leave my own opinion out of it. If there are any points you disagree with, please make them and cite your sources, and we can engage in healthy debate.

  • @sharonlaws2395
    @sharonlaws2395 6 місяців тому +20

    Glamorous yes..
    Beautiful no.

    • @TheFinalBoss316
      @TheFinalBoss316 6 місяців тому +3

      She was given that label in the 1940s. They had different ideas of Beauty than we do today.

    • @MrJoseoz
      @MrJoseoz 6 місяців тому +1

      Shut ya pie hole

  • @aiai-j7i
    @aiai-j7i 6 місяців тому +1

    I had such a hard time finding empathy for any of the characters on that show...I found them all so very unlikeable and off-putting.

  • @carlhicksjr8401
    @carlhicksjr8401 5 місяців тому

    1. Truman Capote was a rodent, a tiny little creature feeding off the leavings of his betters. This is not a comment about his personal life, but strictly his professional and public life. Even the biographies that treat him well or call him a 'genius' also include his insecurities and his mincing mannerisms.
    2. This video makes a great fuss about William Paley's many character faults [and I fully acknowledge that he had more than his fair share of them], but refuses to criticize Babe Paley for her own decisions. The poster blames every single human being that ever met Babe Paley for her issues, but glosses over her own significant defects of character. This is the hallmark of apologist writing and an unfair narrator of events.
    3. None of this excuses the behavior of those surrounding Babe Paley. Most of these people lacked principles and all of them failed to live up to what little code of behavior they did have. But each person is still responsible for their own decisions and their own actions. Babe Paley was as much at fault for her life any other abuser. She had the intelligence and the money to leave the cesspit of her life, but she lacked the courage to do so.

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  5 місяців тому

      It is a 6 minute video on Babe Paley, her life and her death in brief. You can only cover so much in 6 minutes. If you are interested in the life of William Paley and would like to tell his story, here is your forum or you can create your own video. Here we aim to be educated, and if you can educate us, please do.

  • @davidwright873
    @davidwright873 6 місяців тому +4

    They smoked....alot. didnt give a second thought

    • @MegAplin
      @MegAplin 6 місяців тому +2

      That was the time. Everyone, it seemed smoked and smoked alot.

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  6 місяців тому +1

      Yes, there was a belief then that smoking would help the stay thin. For Example, When Jackie Kennedy started smoking in her early teens, she advised her younger sister Lee to start as it would help her lose weight.

  • @msm9593
    @msm9593 6 місяців тому

    Why does everyone always say she's so beautiful?
    She's just ordinary. She looks fine, she's thin, but there is nothing special about her in the least.

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  6 місяців тому

      When I create these videos I try hard not to bring in personal opinions as I want to tell the stories of the people. Those in her day called her that , especially in the 1940s. So all my references are to articles that appeared in those times. In the 1940s, of course Lana turner by many people's standards was more beautiful , but she appealed to a certain segment. In some areas magazines and movies were all people had and seeing the glamorous images of babe I am sure shaped perceptions .

  • @barb7528
    @barb7528 6 місяців тому +7

    Well she stayed with her husband forthe money and status, so theres that...

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  6 місяців тому +2

      She would have had prestige without him, as from the 1940s she was on the best dressed list every year. She had an affair of her own for a time, and it was her second marriage. Why do you think she stayed? Simply money? Notoriety?

    • @marymusic8920
      @marymusic8920 6 місяців тому +3

      Babe Paley was loyal, to her husband....regardless, of affairs, and neglect.... She would have been a success, on her own achievements.....

  • @inesborstel5592
    @inesborstel5592 Місяць тому +1

  • @jilltagmorris
    @jilltagmorris 2 місяці тому +1

    😢😊

  • @missgahan7935
    @missgahan7935 6 місяців тому +17

    I don't understand how she was considered the most beautiful woman in the 20th century. Grace Kelly could have been, but not Babe. Sorry to say that, but she wasn't beautiful at all

    • @LoriVFenske
      @LoriVFenske 6 місяців тому +4

      I agrée. Babe was born in 1915 and was given that moniker in the 40s. Grace Kelly wasn’t born until 1929.

    • @terry4137
      @terry4137 6 місяців тому +4

      Because it takes more than just looks, it’s the whole package. She had it all!

    • @MegAplin
      @MegAplin 6 місяців тому +2

      She was very stunning. Her jaw line....Babe was a rare beauty. Remember, she was born in 1915.....

  • @JenLev
    @JenLev 6 місяців тому +9

    Babe made her own choices, I don't feel sorry for her. Must have been a real tough life, going to cocktails parties everyday. Truman contributed far more to the world than she ever did.

  • @robertharmon6593
    @robertharmon6593 6 місяців тому +6

    She was a vapid and superficial woman who only cared about money and her status...a bad mother without remorse....very sad

    • @frstnmlstnm8484
      @frstnmlstnm8484 6 місяців тому +2

      I'm sure like most people she had many sides to her and to some extent she was the product of her environment and up brining. One doesn't have to excuse a person's selfish behavior of course, I'm sure like many people she died with regrets.

    • @MegAplin
      @MegAplin 6 місяців тому +2

      I don't think Babe cared about money. She always had it. From her birth to death....money was never a issue for Babe. Money wasn't and still isn't spoke about in circles that have it.

  • @Joelswinger34
    @Joelswinger34 6 місяців тому +1

    Poor baby. Rich and beautiful. Boo hoo.

  • @gordonmcmanus1238
    @gordonmcmanus1238 3 місяці тому +2

    she was not beautiful just pain jame

  • @Cobbmtngirl
    @Cobbmtngirl 6 місяців тому +1

    Capote was a jerk!

  • @Emptynestballerina1
    @Emptynestballerina1 6 місяців тому

    She really wasn’t pretty almost huge

  • @amberwaves2223
    @amberwaves2223 6 місяців тому +2

    Too bad Bill Paley was such a PoS!

  • @Exiled.New.Yorker
    @Exiled.New.Yorker 6 місяців тому

    Your title is factually incorrect. Lee Raz was the last Swan.

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  6 місяців тому

      Certainly she outlived them all, but Babe and Lee were very different and I am using the term in the way Truman originally defined it. And Babe was much different from the other Swans. She was one of the last of a certain era. In the next video which is on Jackie and Lee mainly, we will talk about her relationship with Truman and her betrayal of him, if you can call it that. Though I understand your disagreement with the title.

  • @reallydarlings-se2xf
    @reallydarlings-se2xf 2 місяці тому

    And all those bloody cigarettes....

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  2 місяці тому +1

      They all believed they helped them to suppress appetite and maintain their body weight.

  • @virginiasanchis1717
    @virginiasanchis1717 Місяць тому

    She is a nice looking woman but certainly not THE most beautiful one. Think of her contemporary Hollywood stars! Dozens I can think of.....

  • @cassandrah90
    @cassandrah90 6 місяців тому +8

    Was she beautiful

    • @TheFinalBoss316
      @TheFinalBoss316 6 місяців тому +3

      She was called the most beautiful woman in the world in the 1940s. They had a different idea of beauty than people do now.

    • @JenLev
      @JenLev 6 місяців тому

      No..She was a dog

    • @SJ-ni6iy
      @SJ-ni6iy 6 місяців тому

      She wouldn’t get a second glance today but she’d just buy a new face, by having a million plastic surgery procedures.

    • @MegAplin
      @MegAplin 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@SJ-ni6iy I think she would.

    • @TheFinalBoss316
      @TheFinalBoss316 6 місяців тому +1

      @@MegAplin Me too

  • @tombrown7654
    @tombrown7654 6 місяців тому

    JEREMIAH 17:9

  • @ArmandoAndrade-hf5yo
    @ArmandoAndrade-hf5yo 4 місяці тому

    ASAD.Woman

  • @lenering1084
    @lenering1084 5 місяців тому

    Beautiful? Really?

    • @Max-qi3hg
      @Max-qi3hg 13 днів тому

      Capote thought she was beautiful. But he was gay and had a different idea of what beauty is.

  • @chompchomp7853
    @chompchomp7853 5 місяців тому +2

    She wasn't good looking js

  • @JenLev
    @JenLev 6 місяців тому +6

    In a hundred years people will still read Capote no one will care about Babe Paley. She was useless. Tired of all this Capote slander from some trash tv show. Just another useless woman

    • @dawnreneegmail
      @dawnreneegmail 6 місяців тому +1

      see latest

    • @memeishere1
      @memeishere1 6 місяців тому +3

      hi ahole .... Capote was a horrible person, great writer at one point but not a good person he stabbed everyone in the back , the people that cared about him the most, babe was his closest friend, he said it himself that she was his family and that he loved her but for fame and God knows what sickness inside of him hurt betrayed her , at the end of his life regretted loosing her and spoke of it and tried desperately to reconcile with her , , so you see , she was something she does not need your approval , maybe its you that are useless with your horrible self

    • @JenLev
      @JenLev 6 місяців тому

      @@memeishere1 What did she do exactly? Wear clothes? Drink cocktails, pose for photos and sit around smoking cigarettes crying about her horrible life. Capote was an artist. She used her husband for money, capote used her for money. She got what she gave,. No one will even remember her name in a hundred years. Capote's books will live forever. All these women think their lives were so important, just like women of today, a bunch of gossipy useless hags

    • @thelinguist3683
      @thelinguist3683 6 місяців тому +11

      @@JenLev Sounds like you are the one with issues. Babe achieved far more in her life than you ever will. She was well educated, was an editor at Vogue, and carried herself with poise through many difficult situations, something a person such as yourself seems unable to do.

    • @michaelplunkett8059
      @michaelplunkett8059 6 місяців тому +1

      ​. And kept Gunsmoke on CBS for 20 years.

  • @Emptynestballerina1
    @Emptynestballerina1 6 місяців тому +1

    Your lying

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  6 місяців тому +3

      About what Exactly? All of our videos are meticulously researched. Everything in this video is sourced, so if you have an issue I am happy to provide the exact source of the comment or information. Can you clarify what you believe we are mistaken about?

    • @IceAintNice
      @IceAintNice 6 місяців тому

      @@MythicMindScape21
      They never can.

  • @bftdr
    @bftdr 6 місяців тому +4

    truman capote was a bitter old homosexual.