The Remarkable Story of Slim Keith. The California Golden Girl.

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  • @diannshoemaker6419
    @diannshoemaker6419 9 місяців тому +27

    They aren't called the idle rich for nothing.

  • @Scocia
    @Scocia 8 місяців тому +13

    News flash: when you’re tall, blond, and skinny the world is yours! Yes, even if you come from nothing! Ask any super model!
    I’m short and always struggled to stay thin. I really had to work very hard to become the remarkable woman I’m today!

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  8 місяців тому

      Thanks for sharing!!

    • @dejah2553
      @dejah2553 8 місяців тому +4

      Not true. Coming from a tall blonde person

    • @jamieluce5808
      @jamieluce5808 8 місяців тому +1

      @@dejah2553 I agree.

    • @jamieluce5808
      @jamieluce5808 8 місяців тому +1

      I was 5’9’ at age 15. Talk about feeling self conscious. Taller than most of the middle school boys.

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  7 місяців тому +2

      @@jamieluce5808 That is hard to deal with; people can be so cruel. Slim was also mocked in school but I am sure those same boys regretted it years later.

  • @Elizabeth-yg2mg
    @Elizabeth-yg2mg 6 місяців тому +2

    This video has lots of info I didnt know--thank you.

  • @jstone247
    @jstone247 9 місяців тому +32

    Did anyone believe in fidelity in those days?
    How could they live with themselves.

    • @GemaEnriquez
      @GemaEnriquez 9 місяців тому

      Hollywood goofballs ! these people were just as bad as the trash celebrities we have today !!!

    • @kathleenmckenzie6261
      @kathleenmckenzie6261 9 місяців тому +10

      @jstone247 From what I've read, people all through the ages were always more enamored of the idea of fidelity than actually practicing it. Fidelity has always been for someone else.

    • @annamossity8879
      @annamossity8879 9 місяців тому +2

      How about their children?! None of the swans were active mothers. Have them and leave them or turn them over to nannies.

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  9 місяців тому +6

      You aren't wrong, but Slim and her daughter grew close as her daughter got older. Her daughter actually turned out to have a really successful life outside of the limelight. I think though the father's were worse, it is not as if HH, or BP were doing much with their children either. Must have been a lot of lonely childhoods really.

    • @kathleenmckenzie6261
      @kathleenmckenzie6261 9 місяців тому +3

      @@annamossity8879 One cannot make blanket statements about the fate of children raised by nannies. Just as with mothers, some nannies are very good, some are awful, and most fall somewhere in between. Winston Churchill, along with probably all of his peers of that era, was the son of socialite Jennie Jerome Churchill, was raised by a nanny and seems to have loved both his mother and his nanny dearly.

  • @Kate4267
    @Kate4267 9 місяців тому +17

    Fascinating story! Thank you. I’m just wondering what happened with her daughter? Who reared her?

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  9 місяців тому +35

      She split time with her father and mother and was raised by a nanny in her early years, then spent most of her time with Slim. Slim wanted her to be a society girl, but she very much wanted to do her own thing. She was an outstanding student, attended UCLA, then worked for Perry Ellis, before starting her own interior design firm which was very successful. She is still alive now, at 78 and seems happy and content with life, thankful for the chances she was given, and is quite humble and down to Earth.

    • @Kate4267
      @Kate4267 9 місяців тому +7

      @@MythicMindScape21 How kind of you to respond so quickly. I appreciate it! 😄

    • @ileanaacacostaacosta1813
      @ileanaacacostaacosta1813 9 місяців тому +1

      @@MythicMindScape21 When did Silim died? She was a bad mother but she was a good and loyal daughter how strange

  • @Hummingbird108
    @Hummingbird108 9 місяців тому +14

    Very good never heard of her❤❤❤❤❤

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  9 місяців тому

      Thanks for the watch

    • @karelhoffmann7282
      @karelhoffmann7282 9 місяців тому +2

      Watch Feud: Capote vs The Swans

    • @RideoutMr
      @RideoutMr 9 місяців тому

      Well what about her child? How did that go?

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  9 місяців тому +8

      @@RideoutMr She is still alive at 78, graduated from UCLA, worked for Perry Ellis, and was a successful interior designer for many years; designing for many people including Candice Bergen, Tom Brokaw, and Diane Sawyer. She speaks very positively about her mom, especially her sense of humor, she just decided to lead a different life, she didn't like the party scene, and did her own thing. She is very down to Earth.

    • @RideoutMr
      @RideoutMr 9 місяців тому +2

      @@MythicMindScape21 Thanks...cheers fr Italy!!!

  • @marinamartinez6886
    @marinamartinez6886 9 місяців тому +6

    This was a good profile of her, of course after watching The Swans I was interested. Tgey certainly got around in Hollywood back in the day, probably still happening. 👍👍👍

  • @carolynellis387
    @carolynellis387 8 місяців тому +39

    I don't see anything remarkable other than travelling and partying all the time, having the means to do so! Selfish

  • @enchiladasTX
    @enchiladasTX 6 місяців тому +3

    Excellent

  • @adpenaos
    @adpenaos 8 місяців тому +19

    What a wasted life!!! she surely wasn't remarkable, she did nothing to deserve that mention.

  • @christinepaige2575
    @christinepaige2575 8 місяців тому +2

    One of Leland Hayward’s daughters with Margaret Sullavan, Brooke Hayward, wrote an interesting memoir. She liked Slim as a stepmother, but hated Pamela.

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  8 місяців тому

      True, she speaks very negatively of Pamela in her biography. 'Haywire'

  • @franzsolinas7893
    @franzsolinas7893 5 місяців тому

    Very good wonderful story !

  • @roadrunner381
    @roadrunner381 9 місяців тому +51

    The kind of woman I would run from as fast as I could!😳

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  9 місяців тому +4

      🤣

    • @annamossity8879
      @annamossity8879 9 місяців тому +9

      Agreed. All the swans!

    • @czarinacourtneyal-marmont4699
      @czarinacourtneyal-marmont4699 8 місяців тому

      Surely it’s the other way around. Let’s see! Who are you? But I bet you know the names of “The Swans” that if you were an actual member of polite society you’d already know who, what, why, etc instead of this watered down and inaccurate display of historical fiction+pure fantasy. He just wanted to be 1 of the “girls!” Can you blame him?!His idea of the fairer sex he learned hanging out w/Harper Lee constantly. She just screams “Celibate…not by choice!”

    • @shewas1984
      @shewas1984 5 місяців тому

      @roadrunner381 No worries on that front, you wouldn’t get within ten miles of a woman like her in your wildest dreams 😂

  • @kentuckylady2990
    @kentuckylady2990 9 місяців тому +15

    Never heard of her

    • @kassandralevingston9874
      @kassandralevingston9874 9 місяців тому +4

      Me either. But from what they just presented, I wouldn’t have wanted a husband around her. 😏

    • @tracyspaulding6705
      @tracyspaulding6705 9 місяців тому +3

      She was the original California “It Girl” in the 30’s and 40’s, who knew everyone and lived a celebrated (and sometimes tumultuous) life. One of Howard Hawks most famous screen characters was based on Slim. She’s before my time, but she was the real deal IMO. Diane Lane recently played her in the recent series, Feud.

    • @michaelconnor5378
      @michaelconnor5378 9 місяців тому

      @@tracyspaulding6705she was Karen’s grandma

  • @MariaBlack-yq1gx
    @MariaBlack-yq1gx 9 місяців тому +18

    Nothing remarkable about her! It's all about money.

  • @Ifuask6430
    @Ifuask6430 9 місяців тому +6

    Thank you... ❤

  • @deborahoverton7733
    @deborahoverton7733 8 місяців тому +10

    Selfish, superficial, narcissist. Not remarkable at all.

  • @ZolaClyde
    @ZolaClyde 5 місяців тому +2

    So the Lauren Bacall (love her) and best lines in To Have and Have Not was chosen / were written, respectively, by a woman. Makes sense, and not as surprising as (cis) males may think.

  • @brendadrew834
    @brendadrew834 7 місяців тому +2

    Fascinating life, though tainted with scandals! I was a professional fashion illustrator in NYC during Truman's Black and White Ball at the Plaza and read a lot about his "swans", but I've never heard his last name pronounced the way you pronounce it! I've always heard it pronounced Ca-potee, phonetically! Slim was a real beauty, the prototype of Lauren Bacall. Yet terrible to abandon one's child to travel and go party! smdh May they rest in peace~

  • @l.keithhain1952
    @l.keithhain1952 9 місяців тому +5

    Thanks! 🙏

  • @billcolyer8689
    @billcolyer8689 9 місяців тому +8

    She seemed like a strong interesting person. And Beautiful.

  • @jamesfox2579
    @jamesfox2579 8 місяців тому +2

    She had and led a fascinating life!💕

  • @iona.1footinfront840
    @iona.1footinfront840 9 місяців тому +26

    Sorry but she’s not remarkable to me
    What did she actually do for a job? What did you actually do that contributed to society?
    Seems like she was just very good at having affairs with married men. Men that were much older and obviously rich. Why did she have a child with her husband when the marriage was so over to the point where he was obviously having affairs with other women? Alimony by any chance? Why did she abandon the baby (that was only months old) and then go to New York and hang out with her party friends when she had this little baby?
    Sorry but I’m starting to believe that Truman Capote was probably very right about her

    • @JenLev
      @JenLev 9 місяців тому +5

      I found the story interesting. For me it's interesting how people and especially women lived back then and their different lives, even if I don't agree with her choices. It's still a good story. Not having a go, but what could women really do in the 1930s or 40s? And a lot of pregnancies at that time were accidental, hard to put all the blame on women here. Life was a lot different.

    • @annettepora8091
      @annettepora8091 9 місяців тому +6

      Even when I was a young adult in the 60s the classifieds were divided between male and female. Women did not have many options. Hence one reason the hippy revolution took hold. No women were head of corporations or many managers. The advent of IT helped change that. Women couldn't buy a house, no credit cards etc without a husband or a man cosigning loans. It was really bad how women were treated.

    • @JenLev
      @JenLev 9 місяців тому +2

      @@annettepora8091 True, people kind of forget how it was back then, so hard to judge women by the standards of today. Really the best option for a girl in those days was marrying well, and that's kind of what their parents pushed them in to. There were even classes on how to be a good wife in schools.

    • @annamossity8879
      @annamossity8879 9 місяців тому +6

      Sorry, but I agree with the original post. I find nothing remarkable about the swans. I’d say Capote was spot on. I’ve met many actual remarkable women of the age and they were truly accomplished.

    • @JenLev
      @JenLev 9 місяців тому +5

      @@annamossity8879 Fair enough to me the word remarkable means worthy of attention, I found their lives interesting. Is she Marie Curie, or did she split the atom? No. But she led an interesting life. And I was personally interested in their stories. Remarkable and accomplished don't mean the same thing to me.

  • @towanda1067
    @towanda1067 9 місяців тому +53

    A remarkable woman? Born beautiful into a rich family. Marrying for money. Having affairs with married men. Seemingly not really interested in being a mother to her children. And pretty much, it seems, only interested in her own needs. Hmmm…not my definition of remarkable.

    • @mtngrl5859
      @mtngrl5859 9 місяців тому +4

      There are many men who are fascinating even if they have mistresses & don't love their children. I don't know how wealthy her father was, he didn't try to bribe her wit money, just a pony.

    • @MsAllison
      @MsAllison 8 місяців тому +4

      My thoughts too. I doubt I’d ever describe her as “remarkable “ considering she abandoned her daughter at a month old to go party and travel with other men in NYC and other locations. This video described her as rather self-centered and egotistical. She chose married men whom she later married only to discover they would cheat on her as well. But then she doesn’t sound like the innocent betrayed wife either. Did she ever find happiness or even contentment? Certainly not as a wife or mother. Remarkable? No. Sad and selfish, more likely.

    • @janisewellington-ut5jy
      @janisewellington-ut5jy 8 місяців тому

      I would be ashamed if she were my daughter and she was not attractive.

    • @monicacappetta7017
      @monicacappetta7017 8 місяців тому +3

      Nor do I find her beautiful. Just tall, slim and blond with an average face.

    • @tallahasseelassie4223
      @tallahasseelassie4223 8 місяців тому +2

      For perhaps another view of her, read 'Haywire' by Brooke Hayward. Hayward loved her stepmother and clearly preferred her to the stepmother who replaced her, Pamela Churchill.

  • @amysilin8122
    @amysilin8122 7 місяців тому +2

    Why are the commenters so scathingly negative? This is non-fiction and these women are all products of their time and western culture. They were what our magazines and society desired fed on. It is not as if Taylor Swift is so remarkable.

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  7 місяців тому

      Good point.

    • @ruthienelson3682
      @ruthienelson3682 5 місяців тому +1

      I agree with you. Most people live boring uneventful lives. These historical women were true to themselves despite the cookie cutter climate of their times. They also are HONEST about what they learned from living their chosen lifestyles, that benefit modern women who may be leaning towards similar lifestyles. They judge themselves publicly, so that we can make more careful decisions privately.

  • @tonnyharrytony4099
    @tonnyharrytony4099 6 місяців тому +1

    Interesant ar fi daca s ar face un film dupa viata ei.

  • @ladyluck9469
    @ladyluck9469 8 місяців тому +6

    She won in life because of her looks.

    • @jamieluce5808
      @jamieluce5808 8 місяців тому +1

      She also knew how to handle the rich and famous with panache. They said she was never “ starstruck” meaning she saw herself as an equal to them. It takes more than just beauty to blend in with prominent people in society. If it were so easy we’d all be doing it.

  • @bindilove3899
    @bindilove3899 8 місяців тому +12

    So many harsh comments on here. 😲. Many people don’t understand the impact a traumatic childhood has on a person. Slim did pretty well for herself and seemed to overcome many emotional and abandonment issues from childhood. Good for her for loving her mother.

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  8 місяців тому +1

      Great comment. Thanks

    • @colleenwhalen6981
      @colleenwhalen6981 8 місяців тому

      I agree completely with you. All of her three husbands were EXACTLY like her cold, stern, unloving father. Her father set the stage insofar as what she was "used to" from a man - her father was an emotional invalid, self absorbed and utterly cold selfish - all 3 of her husbands married her for the same reason - she was decorative, socially well connected, a brilliant hostess, chic, glamorous - but none of her husbands really behaved as though they LOVED her. She was the impeccible "Trophy Wife" - Babe Paley was also a "Trophy Wife" and Bill Paley was a complete asshole who had thousands of affairs that he flaunted in public with no sense of how to be discreete.
      I believe the grand love of her life was Leland Hayward, the Broadway producer, but after 10 yrs he did not blink an eyelash before he cheated on her with Pamela Churchill. Remember when Gloria Furness said she should have never let the Prince of Wales alone for the week with Wallis Simpson and said "keep an eye on him and keep him company while i'm gone until I get back" - well THAT is what happened when Pamela Churchill got her claws into Leland Hawyard. The way Leland Hawyard dumped Slim Hawks was really brutal. I n ever liked Pamela Churchill. Leland Hawyards daughter, Brooke wrote a wonderful autobiography "Haywire" and she said when Pamela Churchill was her stepmother, she STOLE all her fine jewelry that had been given to her by her mother - a fine pearl necklace her mother gave her - and also her sister Bridget - both went into Pamela's "caretaking" when they were little girls and then completely disappeared forever when their father died and Pamela Churchill was made a widow.
      Lots of the posts are negative against Slim Hawks because she had no career, no job - but back in those days NO women worked who were upper class. The entire emphasis was to find a rich husband and be a society hostess. She was offered the job as an editor for Harpers Bazzar but turned it down because she was pregnant with her daughter Kitty Hawks. If you were rich, back in those days an abortion could be obtained - but Slim kept the baby.
      It is true she went away for one month after Kitty was born but she DID raise her and was a far better parent than Howard Hawks, who Slim wrote about in a Vanity Fair article - "Forever Slim" that Howard Hawks spent zero time with his daughter and the two of them did not know each other, until he was dying. Slim was actually a fantastic stepmother to all of her stepkids and was quite motherly towards both Leland Hawyards three kids and they all adored her. Slim was also very motherly towards Sir Keith's children - he completely ignored them, but it was Slim who took a genuine interest in them - and they adored her!

    • @thechops2000
      @thechops2000 7 місяців тому +1

      @@colleenwhalen6981I think the information about her only being gone a month then returning to her daughter should have been included, as well as being a loving step mother. It is important and would have shown her in a much better light.

    • @DuduOhsson
      @DuduOhsson 6 місяців тому

      We all have trauma, doesn’t mean you get to be a whore in marriage.

  • @corpse.bridee
    @corpse.bridee 4 дні тому

    “slim” is such a cool nickname

  • @donnagamble5283
    @donnagamble5283 8 місяців тому +4

    She was a beautiful home wrecker 🫤

  • @annamossity8879
    @annamossity8879 9 місяців тому +48

    I’m sorry, after watching vids of each of the swans I don’t think any of them were remarkable. Beautiful maybe but nothing remarkable about self centered, narcissistic women. I feel bad for all of their children.

    • @MilosBrajkovic-rc3ik
      @MilosBrajkovic-rc3ik 8 місяців тому +6

      Even not so beautiful...

    • @sarrhodes8277
      @sarrhodes8277 7 місяців тому

      @@MilosBrajkovic-rc3ik This kind of women were an American phenomenon and I think there's nothing like them around any longer which is a good thing. They were vain, superficial and most of them rubbish parents.

    • @polynesia8733
      @polynesia8733 7 місяців тому +2

      agree...style but no substance

    • @Elizabeth-yg2mg
      @Elizabeth-yg2mg 6 місяців тому

      Women back then didn't have much to do--just socialize and have affairs.

  • @sifridbassoon
    @sifridbassoon 9 місяців тому +4

    it's a good thing cigarettes were cheap back then

  • @nahlabella4857
    @nahlabella4857 9 місяців тому +19

    Yes, she stayed true to HERSELF. And ignored her only child. Selfish and self-serving. Not to be admired.

    • @maclanty5324
      @maclanty5324 9 місяців тому

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    • @amppma7302
      @amppma7302 8 місяців тому

      where did you get the idea she ignored her only child? have read a biography and autobiography of Slim Keith and she seems to have had a close relationship with her daughter Kitty.

    • @nahlabella4857
      @nahlabella4857 8 місяців тому

      @@amppma7302 Shortly after the birth of her daughter Kitty Hawks, Slim moved to Havana to stay with Ernest Hemingway. Does that sound like a good mother to you? She left her baby behind!!!

    • @benburndred2226
      @benburndred2226 8 місяців тому

      ​@@maclanty5324you must be as wealthy as slim to absorb Biden's America...must be nice

  • @danielletoni6139
    @danielletoni6139 7 місяців тому +7

    Remarkable? Why? Nurses, doctors, maids, teachers who do their job well saving and helping to build lives are remarkable

  • @hillarychapman1
    @hillarychapman1 8 місяців тому +3

    Remarkable how?

  • @leelee9421
    @leelee9421 8 місяців тому +4

    Well this would be a good movie I reckon. And Uma Thurman could play her.

  • @christinepaige2575
    @christinepaige2575 8 місяців тому +1

    Her looks changed a great deal over the years - not much resemblance between the young Slim and the older one.

  • @stephenstephen1505
    @stephenstephen1505 9 місяців тому +3

    A fascinating woman

  • @lllowkee6533
    @lllowkee6533 9 місяців тому +2

    Never heard of her but this is interesting …

  • @JosephHuether
    @JosephHuether 8 місяців тому

    Born halfway around the world to the East…the Moirai might have anointed her the archetypal “aryan supergirl”.

  • @maryfitzgerald4812
    @maryfitzgerald4812 5 місяців тому

    A good candidate for a story is beryl markham.

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  5 місяців тому

      Thank you, I have added her to the list to look into, an amazing woman. I am hard at work on Lee Miller now. So perhaps in November or December.

  • @63rambler66
    @63rambler66 7 місяців тому

    What the h happened to her child?

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  7 місяців тому +1

      She grew to have a close relationship with her mother, and speaks very fondly of her. She shunned the limelight, got a degree from UCLA, worked for Perry Ellis, before becoming an interior designer. She is still alive.

  • @LaurieValdez-zk3dy
    @LaurieValdez-zk3dy 8 місяців тому

    I remember this lady

  • @flowermeerkat6827
    @flowermeerkat6827 8 місяців тому +3

    Dang why so much hate in the comments?

  • @gogoyubari366
    @gogoyubari366 8 місяців тому +3

    Slim was so pretty!

  • @ZolaClyde
    @ZolaClyde 5 місяців тому

    Truman Capote knowingly betrayed these women, abusing their trust for profit. Each woman was was vulnerable in her own way despite their wealth and looks, who confided in him. “His Swans” .. Eww! Truman Capote was horrible in this instance.

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  5 місяців тому

      They really come off horribly in the excerpts we can read, it is not simply he betrayed their trust, he made them all come off as the most vapid, horrible creatures in existence. It is just so horribly written and intentionally mean, he has Gloria Vanderbilt stuttering (as she had a stutter). Not even recognizing her first husband, Slim as an ugly gossip, who simply talks about everyone in the worst way possible. And at the time, his 'best friend' babe paley was dying of cancer.

  • @judyjudy51
    @judyjudy51 5 місяців тому

    It was remarkable how she left her newborn daughter 🙄

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  5 місяців тому

      They all seemed to do it, as it was believed that children were better raised by nurses and governesses.

    • @Colorbrush21
      @Colorbrush21 26 днів тому +1

      Has anyone noticed how much Slim Keith resembles JFK jrs wife Carolyn Bessette Kennedy? They were very tall, skinny, and blonde and often wore ponytails. They had huge expressive eyes, long slightly bony noses, sculpted cheekbones and perfectly shaped mouths. They dressed very simple, good clean lines, lots of trousers. They both had devil may-care-personalities and loads of confidence - the kind of confidence that attracts rich, powerful men. And men were fascinated by them. They were stylish and fashionable without being a slave to style and fashion.

  • @benburndred2226
    @benburndred2226 8 місяців тому

    The only good looking swan was jackies sister, i think

  • @enchiladasTX
    @enchiladasTX 6 місяців тому

    Bored of Clark Gable?

    • @MythicMindScape21
      @MythicMindScape21  6 місяців тому

      She thought he was rather dim, nice to look at but a real bore in conversation :) He was said to simply imitate Viktor Fleming. "There was more of Victor Fleming in Gable than Gable in Gable" David Thomson (Film Historian)

  • @massimosquecco8956
    @massimosquecco8956 7 місяців тому +1

    She was the most beautiful of the USA in the XX century. I don't know who took her throne in the XXI centenary because it is too early to say, but we already know she isn't one of the 5 or 6 Kardashes females or Beyonce' , because they are all too corrupted and surgically modified to aspire for that ideal position!

    • @massimosquecco8956
      @massimosquecco8956 7 місяців тому

      No! Not Gwinett Parlow, nor Selena Gomez nor Angelina. At this moment in time I can only think about Anok Yai and Blake Lively, but I m still not swearing even just for the USA!

  • @eyraclarisse144
    @eyraclarisse144 7 місяців тому +1

    Narcisistic.

  • @theresamay9481
    @theresamay9481 8 місяців тому

    Remarkable woman but not kind.

  • @janebovary626
    @janebovary626 Місяць тому

    Another greedy rich woman…

  • @katerinagiannioudi401
    @katerinagiannioudi401 4 місяці тому +1

    She looked quite ordinary...

  • @gabrielleseeley4117
    @gabrielleseeley4117 6 місяців тому

    Not remarkable in the least.

  • @GaryG63
    @GaryG63 7 місяців тому +3

    Slim and I dated in the 1993, horrible in bed and farted a lot