‘Slender Man’ Stabber Begs for Release From Mental Institution
Вставка
- Опубліковано 11 кві 2024
- One of the two preteens who were involved in the “Slender Man” stabbing of their friend is asking to be removed from the mental institution. Now 21-year-old Morgan Geyser has requested that she be released from the Winnebago Mental Health Institution after she was initially sentenced to 40 years in the mental facility in 2018. Law & Crime’s Elizabeth Millner breaks it down.
Subscribe to Law&Crime Network: bit.ly/LawAndCrimeNetwork
Reporter:
Elizabeth Millner: / _emillner
#SlenderMan #TrueCrime #LawAndCrime
STAY UP-TO-DATE WITH THE LAW&CRIME NETWORK:
Watch Law&Crime Network on UA-camTV: bit.ly/3td2e3y
Where To Watch Law&Crime Network: bit.ly/3akxLK5
Sign Up For Law&Crime's Daily Newsletter: bit.ly/LawandCrimeNewsletter
Read Fascinating Articles From Law&Crime Network: bit.ly/3td2Iqo
For Advertising Inquiries, Please Contact: sales@lawandcrime.com
For Licensing Inquiries, Please Contact: licensing@lawandcrime.com
LAW&CRIME NETWORK SOCIAL MEDIA:
Instagram: / lawandcrime
Twitter: / lawcrimenetwork
Facebook: / lawandcrime
Twitch: / lawandcrimenetwork
TikTok: / lawandcrime
LAW&CRIME NETWORK PODCASTS: lawandcrime.com/podcasts/
SUBSCRIBE TO ALL OF LAW&CRIME NETWORK UA-cam CHANNELS:
Main Channel: / @lawandcrime
Law&Crime Shorts: / @lawandcrimeshorts
Channel B: / @lawandcrimetrials
Channel C: / @lawandcrimebodycam - Розваги
Slenderman told me that they shouldn't be released yet. 🤷🏼♂️
😄
@@kirstenhottle9601 whats your insta
LOL imagine if they tell her that as she goes through her appeals.
Slender Boi be wild in that forest
They got out just in time for GTA 6
You dont get to sit in a mental hospital to avoid jail, then get out of the mental hospital scott free.
Agree
She gonna go to jail thou right ?
the other kid did.
@@NerdGlassGamingPA no. She will only go to jail if she gets conditional release and then violates those conditions.
In this case there is no jail time. She’s insane and a danger to society. It’s why she’s not being released. It’s normal to go through the process to ask. Yes if she’s ever deemed stable and not a threat to society she would be released like the other girl. It didn’t happen here and probably never will but she is young and it depends how many problems she has. Is it possible one day she will get out, yeah. Likely too? No
I don’t think her partner in crime should have been released either.
@@DJ-769no the other girl Anissa weier was granted to live with her father with 24/7 gps monitoring in 2021 and just last year in September of 2023 she was granted to be taken off of gps monitoring
@punky19761 exactly!!!!
Yea! My Thoughts Exactly!! It's BS!
@@DJ-769l agree with you here
The other girl was actually the ring leader.
If she was faking it then she MUST go straight to jail.
Facts🤦🏽♂️
💯
Exactly. She’s a sane violent person. Who is clearly a sociopath.
She was
She was 12. What do you think we should do with such children?
That poor girl they tried to kill probably has major anxiety knowing these demons could come back for her.
Right? But of course the UA-cam sheeple here care more about two manipulative girls who made up stories than a poor kid that was. Nearly murdered.
Obviously they wouldn't allowed to be anywhere near her
@@lydiaking6341that hasn’t stopped someone before.
I hope Morgan doesn't get released for the safety of the public but also for this girl's sake 😢
If I was her I would get my justice by my own hands since the system has failed.
"She suffered trauma in the commission of the offenses..."
as opposed to the victim, who suffered trauma due to the 19 stab wounds by HER hand.
Right!? What is going on!! Ridiculous
I’m not saying that’s right… but she was 12 & she’s schizophrenic. Folie À deux it seems too.
Admit it, you didn't know what that meant until they announced the sequel to joker.
This is about HER mental state though.
And? No one said the victim didn’t experience trauma, and a kid acting on a path of darkness could absolutely traumatize his or herself in the process. Why do you think snipers have so much ptsd?
I don’t want her next to me in a grocery store…
I know, right! Slenderman might tell her to stab you and take your frozen peas. 🔪🩸
Me either!!😮
Slenderman doesnt want you next to anyone in the grocery store
Nor in a church service
@@Theundertakerphen0m369you think she's going to mf church? 💀💀💀💀
I'm shocked the other girl is free, without the ankle monitor....which is how they agreed to let her go free. Wtf.
She spent 2 years with the ankle monitor.
I’m assuming her psych Evals, and what proved that she may have been influenced by this girl and was just naive and obsessed with slenderman.
She also didn't do the stabbing. She just egged the other girl on. So she had a lesser sentence due to that
@@britnylawson4191 In my opinion, that is just as bad as actual stabbing.
@@elizabethhuie563 well, shared delusion or also called as Folie à deux is a complex thing. Anissa was so heavily influenced by Morgan that she believed that Morgan's delusion was reality. And from what I have learned in regard to both of their backgrounds, Anissa was easier to influence because of her low self-esteem. I was almost sucked into a shared delusion in 2019, and I snapped out of it before something bad could happen. And from my experience, people like Morgan, there is something very dark in their personality and it is scary. There are enough people with Schizophrenia, who don't go around and kill people. However, there has to be something else that makes her have the desire to lure another person into her delusions. Anissa was wrapped in this reality when this happened, and she would have not done this, if she wasn't wrapped in Morgan's delusion. So, now that she is not in contact with Morgan, she functions normally. And for what I have seen, she actually has remorse and know that what she did, was bad. So, Morgan is really the main problem here.
Put her in prison if she want out of the mental hospital
Yes !
If the mental condition that led to the crime is fixed, why keep her in prison?
@DBCOOPER888 oh I don't know maybe because of the ATTEMPTED MURDER?????
@@DBCOOPER888to protect us regular people from her impulses
@@DBCOOPER888 well, the mental condition that led to the crime was malingered, she is now saying that it never existed. she was only sent to this facility, because of it. she would have been dealt with entirely differently, had she not malingered.
Sounds like she's ready for grownup prison.
They got out just in time for GTA 6
@@M4DAttack But they wont
@@Chris-zs5qb I know, it was a joke
you cant just throw all your problems in a prison, america has the most overcrowded prisons in the world and it makes people worse coming out of them and the cycle never ends. she has schizophrenia, she needs medical and psychological help, not prison. grow up.
Until Morgan agrees on her need for meds and knows how to take care of herself, she's a danger. I worked with a guy who punched another man to death in a bathroom stall because of schizophrenia. He understands he needs meds. He speaks of it openly.
Morgan thinks she's fine. She isn't
Yes your ritht
😢 Is he in society?..
may that victim man Rest In Peace 🙏
p.s. ...what scares me about this part is morgan may realize this and just lie again. "Yes, i will take my meds. i need them if the professional says so." But like you said, she doesn't believe that. So once released, she wont take them... In my opinion, its JUST TOO MUCH of a risk... this is hard
If she hasn’t accepted that she’s mentally ill, she shouldn’t be free in society. By saying she pretended to be ill at the time of the crime is admitting she just murdered her friend for fun? In that case, she should not be in society.
@@northerngirl4666 she won't be released into society from Winnebago, she'll go to a supervised group home. She's already entered the community 6 times with success.
She's not admitting she murdered for fun by saying she pretended to be ill. Her belief that she faked her symptoms is likely part of a delusion she has. Remember she's not currently on antipsychotic medication.
Who tf is hacking up a lung DIRECTLY into the microphone??? We hear you sir!
The judge.
I was looking for this comment lmao
@@aioki_uchihaLOL so was I! I wanted to check before being the 5000th person to mention it 😂
@@soude85damn he couldn’t turn his head!?
🤣🤣🤣
19 stab wounds the victim has suffered and reminded every day about it when she looks at herself, I can’t imagine the PTSD she also must suffer through. All this is very sad
I fell şad for her l hope she ok
Not everybody suffers PTSD for the rest of their life. Also, scars are superficial. Society likes to tell victims they are always victims. That young lady is now a survivor. She is strong. She is a hero for herself as she saved herself. We should applaud her for having resourcefulness to have survived. Not condemn her as a permanent victim. We give her justice by keeping the monster's who attacked her and got a new DSM5 criteria of early onset schizophrenia created just for them, locked up for life.
@Skitdora2010 this girl survived because one of the stab wounds stopped at ONE HAIR of separation from the heart. The stabs where really deep, and several of them, and still found herself semiconcious when the bicyclist found her. She trusted them, her "friends"
I'm not by any means the one allowed to diagnose, but .... sadly, severe complex- PTSD is very much likely to have happened here...
@@Skitdora2010 There is a big difference between people who society says are "victims" and people who actually are victims of a crime. I'm a guy who isn't easily affected by most things and I was involved in a altercation with a stranger while working. I was assaulted physically completely out of nowhere, unexpectedly because the guy thought I was a CIA agent. I was a delivery person delivering a pizza next door. This guy came up to my car and sucker punched me through my window and stabbed me 3 times before I even knew what was happening to me. For years afterwards I was paranoid of anyone walking up behind me. It wasn't a conscious thought, it was a real fear based on experience. When I saw those stab wounds in my neck in the morning, it made me sad. When I see those scars now, they aren't battlewounds I am proud of. Sure, I survived but that doesn't take the trauma away from what happened. The betrayal I felt from a fellow human. But society isn't telling me to feel this way. It's just what it is. Someone made me a victim, and the emotions involved in that are personal to everyone.
@Skitdora2010 it is not about Society, it is about how she feels. We don't know if she has it but it is a pretty safe bet she does getting stabbed 19 times at 12 years old Use some common sense.
She's now claiming something else, which makes for great concern as we still can't get to the root cause.
Therefore the risk to the public outweighs the rights of the defendant.
She was 12!!!!
@@user-lp2he1md6i Serial killers start young. She's a psychopath and will always be a danger to society.
@user-lp2he1md6i Would u stab someone to death when u were 12? It would have happened when she was older. She was just so evil, she could still do that at 12. Open your eyes
@@user-lp2he1md6iDoesn't matter. She's a very clear and present danger to people. I don't know if you've seen her interrogation footage but this girl can't be with normal society
Agreed
I dont think she faked mental illness. I think that she wants to get out of custody and in her mind, thinks that if she says that she faked it and is in fact not ill. She will be able to get out quicker. This just proves that she has a lot more to work out. And is not ready to be released any time soon. She is still showing that she is struggling to comprehend reality.
This is normal behaviour, put yourself in her shoes, I was there too, in a mental hospital against my will, obviously I pretended I had no issues and was completely fine to get out which worked, this is normal human behaviour.
well im sure the people who trained their entire lives and have a degree for this sorta of thing and spent years on years studying her probably have a little better idea of whats going on man.
who are you talking to bud?
I agree
Its also called anosognosia. Common with schizophrenics
I don't believe that she didn't experience psychotic symptoms before the attack, and that she was essentially making it up. I think she's saying that now because she wants to leave the facility, and she thought that blaming the attack on prior abuse would gain sympathy from the court. That's concerning.
That could very well be the case.
its all to avoid jail. "you cant lock me up im insane" 10 years later... "im not insane and never was now let me out of this"
Absolutely manipulating
I really feel like she falls under ASPD (antisocial personality disorder) because she definitely is a sociopath who has no remorse for her actions and only is upset about the consequences that affect her. As well as her mirroring people could be linked to BPD but she’s mirroring people to gain control as well as a manipulation tactic. She could’ve easily manipulated the other girl to help her and said it was for slender man when in reality it was just one of her negative thoughts that she wanted to try but needed the help of another. Idk just a theory lol
Also using the sympathy/empathy of others is another tactic to gain the control she needs to gain what she wants.
So just because Peyton didn’t die, these women get to go free? I’m so upset for Peyton. They attempted to kill her and would have succeeded if Peyton didn’t CRAWL, bleeding out to a bike trail! They planned it, stabbed Peyton 19 times, took their little backpacks and left her for dead. HOW are they eligible for freedom?!
This doctor seems very rational and knowledgeable. She’s seems logical and fair. I hope they follow her findings and keep Morgan under care.
The dr said she also has ptsd trauma from commiting the crime of stabbing someone 19 times.
the opinions seemed mixed... i haven't watched enough to say.
Let us pray that Gods word will have the last say here 🤔i wonder what will happen
Nice rhyme, very sublime
I believe her request for release was denied.
I hope that someday you’ll actually watch these videos all the way until the end before you comment on them.
Sounds like she's ready for prison.
Not at all. She’s still very mentally ill, clearly.
If she continues to state she faked her symptoms she should _not_ be released. That is a significant indicator she will not upkeep her treatment outside of mandatory hospital conditions.
Slender man made the judge keep her in there
😅
they let the other girl go thou
Best comment...
😂
🤣😂
LMAOOOOO WORD!!!
I don’t think just because the psych facility has nothing else to offer that she should just get released. She stabbed a girl 19 times. You lose your privileges to just join society again to benefit your social abilities after that
True, but if the psych facility has nothing more to offer, than maybe it would be prudent to consider another facility that has more to offer
@@ninja_revert yes, prison, to make sure she doesn't stab anyone else 19 times, almost killing them, for a fictional character
Jeez being a Psychologist in these cases has to be mentally draining... I couldn't sleep at night knowing I recommended someone like the defendant to be released.
Each person has the right to be represented and access this kind of expert witness evidence...but you're so right, not a a job for everyone. It certainly wouldn't be for me. Even if I believed someone may be ready to be released, what a HUGE responsibility.
Totally!!
@Jessicace Experts for the defense are wh0r3s of the court
Except that they wouldn't recommend anyone for release unless they firmly believe they should be released. They'd sleep just fine
Why shouldn't she be released? She was not in control of her actions, you can't punish someone for having a psychotic episode, have some compassion.
Both evil girls should be behind bars permanently! It’s sickening that one has already been released……SICKENING!👎
@@targaryen7049 That's my problem. There was nothing truly psychologically amiss with the real motive behind that attempted murder. This young lady is sick and she is not healing where she is. It is deeply unfair that the abled girl is out and the disabled girl is still being punished.
@@thalobluethe ‘disabled one is being punished’? She isn’t being punished she is being kept there for the safety of the community as two of the doctors both noted she is not representing herself in line with her actual diagnosis, symptoms or history. She is not recovered and needs to stay there. I’d be quite happy for the other one to still be there as well.
@@thaloblueHonestly, I actually fear Anissa being out in the public more then Morgan. You could argue that Morgan may have not commited her crime had Anissa not manipulated her to do it. Anissa with her manipulative personality I would consider far more dangerous than the one that is mentally unwell.
Right. Yet, you have many innocent people behind bars that they throw the book at, and the spend years in prison.
Is she constantly suffering while in the hospital? If I was her, If I weren't able to have a second chance at life. I rather just die so I could avoid suffering in prison.
Outside of the hospital she isn’t monitored to maintain her meds daily. That’s in itself is scary for society
I have a friend in a mental institution that has been there since the 90's for taking an axe to a church.
He has been up for release many times yet he remains to stay there because as he has told me "I don't know what I will do if I get out"..
Makes me realize this girl is FULLY AWARE OF HER ACTIONS! Edit: my friend has NEVER tried to hurt himself or others in the facility!
Your friend, who is probably diagnosed with something else, really has no connection to this girl at all, so your conjecture is based off of memories and BS.
@@thaloblue we still talk! 🤔🤣
How does this relate to you it doesn't retain from trying to get the spotlight please
@@art23428 doesn't relate to me but it does to people in mental institutions.
As far as a spotlight 😆, I have a life outside of the Internet world.
Thank you for your time 😂🤦.
@@art23428 OMG nobody’s allowed to share a story that relates for this?? Get a grip
Thank goodness the little girl survived, she was so strong and crawled out of the woods to get help. Bless the man who found her and called the police ❤❤
That person coughing in the background should really see a dr. That cough is terrible.
Thank you it was driving me crazy
That's the judge doing all the coughing.
That’s a no from me
Nien, Nien, Nien.
She must have heard about Gypsy Rose.
It’s a no for me dawg.
Your personally opinionated vote holds *zero* power.
…but, I’m sure they definitely appreciated it. 🗿
@@13lueBomber wow I'm sure they had no idea Mr. Redditor
What does that mean, she cried when threatened with “her Harry Potter friends not being present to her or coming back” ?
her imaginary friends basically
She's psychotic
Probably asked for stuffed animals and was told she would not be getting them and freaked
It means that she’s on the right treatment and so she no longer sees her imaginary Harry Potter friends. And she’s been told they probably won’t come back. Because the medication is working.
She was 12 years old, children aren't always thinking rationally
What would conditional release even be? No social skills, no education, where would she go?
Group / jail
Probably ankle monitor too
She should go straight to jail!
She will have received her high school education. The law requires it.
She needs to go to jail where she belongs.
If I remember she is schizophrenic, her father was also and it ran in the family. However, the parents failed to see the signs and did not get her help. So here she is in a mental institute instead of jail. Sad
Super sad.
It's really hard for middle class families to help children with this level of psychosis. It costs thousands, and you literally have to be below the poverty line to qualify for Medicare and even then, it's difficult. So these children usually fall through the cracks.
@terriaaseth3019 Well that's as maybe, but now she's saying that she made it all up to avoid going home. The other girl showed remorse, and has obviously worked with the mental health team to be successfully released. The above girl seems cold and manipulative.
@@esosaimasuen8122
🤔 Interesting... There's no way to help minors in these situations?
@@OrangeCopperTop I think you've got it backwards...? the other girl, Anissa, was the one who concocted the entire plan and lured in this girl who was vulnerable in that she didn't seem to have a clear differentiation between reality and fantasy. morgan is far from guiltless, obviously, but she's dangerous by virtue of being vulnerable to suggestion and easily-influenced. Whereas Anissa, at least at the time of the offense, was transparently sane, manipulative, cruel, and devoid of basic empathy (well beyond the ordinary self-centered lack of compassion/insight in teens and tweens). Morgan may not be ready to be released, but I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest to see Anissa wind up in prison in the relatively near future
Neither one should be out. Smh
Unleashed on the world
the other girl is out
These people need to think about the victim. If they were thinking about her, this wouldn’t even be up for discussion.
The victim has already stated that she is not concerned about the girls coming after her again. You need to pay attention to what the victim is thinking and feeling before you start yapping on her behalf.
@@thaloblueseriously these people don’t actually care about her. They just want revenge.
No one cares about the victim, she is fine with them being released, after all, Morgan Geyser was sick and not in control of her actions, people here are just cruel and get off on seeing this poor girl in prison for the rest of her life.
@@wertyline806 Exactly why she needs to stay locked up. Mental illness sucks but If she gets released and attacks someone else, people like you are also to blame.
You're not from planet earth if you think the law actually cares about the victims.
I was wondering who was so disrespectful to be coughing the whole time.... Turns out it's the judge😂
Gross
She should go to jail not out in public.
The other girl was sentenced to 25 years to life and was released after 7 years. What the actual f
This girl is sentenced to 40 years to life. So why is it even a question to get her out after 10 years. This should not even be a discussion
Because they were CHILDREN. The constitution pretty much d lands that they be released when they are cleared to no longer be a danger. Ffs y’all are clueless and heartless. As if pol choose to have psychosis and throw their life away in CHILDHOOD.
@@kateashby3066 are you serious ?! Heartless ?! Stabbing your “friend” at 12 years old is HEARTLESS 🤦🏽♀️ also, children who commit these sorts of crimes are more than likely to reoffend as adults. As if that poor girl chose to be lured into a forest by her so called friends and stabbed NINETEEN times. But go ahead ….
@@kateashby3066It’s not about them being children at the time but more so a matter of rehabilitation. Clearly these psychologists still see Morgan as unfit to reintegrate into society for a reason and until that changes, she’s gonna be in there. On top of that, she may have faked some of her mental illnesses. She made it harder for herself by doing so.
@@kateashby3066we need to watch you, you seem psycho adjacent
@@smokythecameramanI’m getting sick of these “But they’re 12!” Comments. I don’t know about you. But not many kids are going around knifing each other for fictitious entities. Also I nor anyone I have spoken with has heard of this sacrificing someone to Slenderman.
It all sounds like malicious intent. She just committed a crime early.
I really do feel bad for this young lady suffering mental illness and abuse at home… but there has to be consequences for trying to kill someone, with or without mental illness
40 years is way too much
@@anovemberstar i agree give her 39 years
She's been punished enough she deserves rehabilitation.
@@thaloblue She stabbed someone 19 times and left her to bleed to death and you think she is the one who suffered? WTF.
@@thaloblue no. she derseve to be behind bars FOR LIFE.
Imagine if someone dressed up as slenderman entered the court room to see how she would react lol
That's not funny maybe you should be evaluated
😂
@@graceraven3423 it kinda is tho🤣
@@graceraven3423 honestly it was pretty funny lmfao
@@graceraven3423shut up
So she “hadn’t ever experienced psychotic symptoms” but at the same time had “fanciful beliefs” that Slenderman would kill her family if she didn’t murder someone? I also hate the argument that her actions are due to abuse in her home. Abuse victims are not murderers nor should they be excused for doing so.
I wouldn’t want her living in my neighborhood.
Keep her locked up
exactly, the victim did not get second chances when they kept stabbing her.
@@deealex1402actually she did. She survived, but I agree to keep the freak locked up
So she dosent deserve a second chance? She was just a kid
@@deealex1402 She's alive
@@nunyabizness9779ok looks like you don't care about the victims then letting the cops know
"Faking" a reason to stab someone 19 times is a whole other mental illness unto itself. Constant excuses and no actual accountability. That's enough reason stay right where she is.
Is she remorseful? Does she understand the reality of her actions and the repercussions it had on her victim?
What if she has a traumatic experience in the real world? Will she create another reality/reason to get out of it? Does she have any coping skills?
I'd say, no she did what she did and deserves to be locked up
I agree with you
Both of them .
That’s not how the constitution works but ok.
@@kateashby3066well too bad buddy
@@art23428Yikes response 😬
She's okay now?!
She doesn't look well AT ALL!
Prisons aren't daycares, rehab facilities, or hospitals. They are punitive places designed to control. Even the "mentally infirm" places, especially the mentally infirm places.
The haircut tells me all I need to know. It's not a normal thing to shave the side of your head. She saw Avril Lavignes haircut in a magazine or something. Avril has turned into a woke monster herself
@@dickfitswell3437ooooh, I thought she was balding from all the meds she's probably on
@@dickfitswell3437 what an odd take. plenty of women shave their hair and are not psychotic.
I'm sure your opinion based solely on her looks are enough to judge whether she is stable or not.
We need adequate and effective Mental Health Facilities and Addiction Recovery centers across this Country. Shutting them down over the years and privatizing Prisons has destroyed huge parts of society. Disgraceful.
Agree 💯!!
💯
Preach it. I wish we could make the lawmakers hear this.
Agree, especially ones that actually accept health insurance.
😢
How about...
no.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
😂😂 I hit the "read more" expecting an explanation for your opinion or something but all I got was a straight up "no"! That was pretty funny.
@@jenw.1412 look up no sloth gif
Wild… they should both be locked up forever. Absolute monsters. I was 15 once and never ever thought about hurting anyone. Wild…
She was 12 when she did it, I’m conflicted on it. She clearly needs punishment and mental help though
@@TheDJMeyer85 my bad.. still I was even more innocent then! Just, can’t wrap my head around it.
Yes, definitely mental heath services are needed. But I also strongly believe, society is better off without either of them roaming free…
@@cassiondramiillers5929 Your "innocence" at 12 and what you would have done has nothing to do with this case. Just because you were a certain way and had certain experiences doesn't mean other people were the same at 12. Try to consider the fact that everyone isn't you and hasn't had the same life or experiences as you've had and doesn't think the same way or understand the same way that you do. Judging other ppl's actions by what YOU did as a child makes absolutely no sense.
@cassiondramiillers5929
It's great that you never hurt anyone but this isn't about you.
Why do some UA-cam commenters think the world revolves around them and that everyone is exactly the same? It's myopic and immature.
@@kaya7396 I wouldn't have stabbed my friend either. murder wasn't a thing that had entered my head at that age even though I did have an abusive parent.
I'm uncomfortable with someone calling someone odd as a reason why they should be locked up. I'm odd. Be specific. You're the professional.
Yea, seems odd to diagnose someone as odd.
I almost agreed with you but when I really thought about it, she could have said "her behavior and mannerisms were atypical." and I honestly don't think we would be having this conversation. Saying "odd" instead was just easier to digest language for the layman. And those observations are important for context and diagnosis.
The word odd I believe was immediately jarring because those of us that are "odd" have been told so and that descriptor used in a derogatory way.
It's about painting a picture. You can't let your personal insecurities cloud your interpretation of professional integrity because you'll fail to see things as they fully are.
And I beg for her not be released.
Release from the mental institution......she must be crazy....
Listen, I have schizoaffective disorder. I *also* have cPTSD. And I have spent *years* being mentally unwell; you *cannot* “fake” being schizophrenic for *that long* … Add that to the fact that she’s now (clearly) lying to get out of being hospitalised means she lacks enough self awareness about her illness to be compliant with treatment if released. I’m glad the judge made the call he made.
"you cant lock me up im insane" 10 years later... "im not insane and never was now let me out of this"
She's a psychopath. I hope they don't release her and if they do, it's under very strict 10 years supervision including bracelet and monthly psychiatric evaluation
The doctors who have spent many hours with her have diagnosed her as on the schizophrenic spectrum but you, with no medical education, and never having interviewed the girl, have come up with the diagnosis of psychopath. I diagnose you with ego-mania, superiority complex, and delusions of grandeur.
They haven’t diagnosed her as being a psychopath.
Being on the spectrum of schizophrenic is different.
@@lilmsmunchkin84 You would think she is a psycho if you got stabbed by her .
You have no idea what a psychopath is. She is just a delusional narcissistic schizophrenic. She was jealous most likely. Psychos are planners, they’re not as impulse as sociopaths and narcs
It was actually a diagnosis made by several people who interviewed her initially , it may not be this doctors personal diagnosis , but there were a few things that were mentioned from multiple interviews with her and evaluations if I remember correctly.
IMO, the victim should also be consulted on this matter.
im sure the victim would rather move on with her life than have to relive her attack. If that girl gets out regardless of what the victim says then she may become a target again for commenting on her release trial
I assume she’ll have a restraining order that prevents Morgan from living within X number of miles from her if she’s ever released.
District Attorneys often do in crimes of this nature. Additionally, victims have the right to be present at proceedings and give statements to the court under the Victim's Rights Act. I would be very surprised if they were not in touch with the prosecutor's office throughout the entirety of this case.
She has, she doesn't mind them being released, she is not a cruel vengeful person who lacks empathy, unlike most of the people on this comment section.
@@wheresmycharger3196 victims receive a letter every time their aggressor or whatever goes to court. My husband was robbed and every time they went to court even if it didn’t have to do with him he got a letter. We just laughed at it every time and threw it away
I agree she should not be released any time soon. Apart from that, where are her parents? Was her father ever charged for abusing her?
They said the father is deceased and she is estranged from her mother.
Was that proven? Your types don't care about such things after all so I have to make sure.
That’s kind of convenient to blame abuse on someone who can’t defend themselves. And blame indifference to an estranged parent.
He wasn’t deceased at the time the attempted murder occurred, I recall he had a history of schizophrenia as well. So I wonder what really happened.
Eight years of college, seminars, what have you and we get a diagnosis “that she was quite odd.” Mind blowing.
I dont trust mental health "professionals" after about a decade of seeing them in various locations and ability. My last experience I was quite literally bullied
That doctor they are depending on the most for her testimony can't even put a complete sentence together, and just seemed uninformed.
Being odd is a key personality characteristic psychs look for.
Are you a psychologist? It seems an important observation, that she is odd, for the context of the case.
@@Jessicace you don’t need eight years of expensive school along with extensive training to conclude that this chick is “quite odd.” I could have told you that by just looking at her picture with zero context, that’s my point.
While her victim begged for her life….yeah that sounds like a 1 for 1…..😒
Isn’t her victim alive tho?
@@summyv7058 surviving a stabbing doesn’t mean the attempt wasn’t to kill her. That’s why the charge was “first degree ATTEMPTED murder.”
So you'd shrug like this at two people stabbing you getting out for attempting to murder you simply because, you didn't actually die? Regardless of law, would you want these two girls to ride the bus with your kids?
That cough, though.. 🤢
Blech hackkkk hrrrk oghffff
I appreciate what the judge had to say, how he approached this terrible case, and how he provided his talking points. He seemed rational and empathetic at the same time. The young lady, unfortunately, is a risk to society. It's tragic that she ended up a victim of her own circumstances.
Both evil monsters and neither should ever be released. At 12 they knew exactly what they were doing.
She thought that a mental health hospital was a walk in the park.
She didn’t because she didn’t anticipate the consequences, because ppl with schizophrenia are psychotic. Get it?
False
I heard that mental hospital she in is bad I think that's why she really trying to get out
@@Cupcake123CupcakkeExactly. She’s probably been to a psych hospital before and it was like a nice hospital. Thought she was going to the same place. Nope, this is a ward for criminals, miss. You’re getting the same treatment but more restrictions cause you’re not mentally well.
All of those hospitals are bad. Lmao haven’t you seen the documentaries about them. A young child is not able to manipulate grown highly educated people to that magnitude. She is lying now to try and get out
Slenderman told me she needs life in prison cant go against him sorry
It’s crazy how some people just “look” mentally dysfunctional and/or incapable, you know?
No. This one needs to stay where she is permanently.
To stab your own friend 19 times… and then plea this?
stop pardoning criminals....
The other girl initiated and aggressively pushed Morgan to do this. Why is Noone acknowledging this.
People will not forgive a crime against a child, especially a little girl, regardless of circumstances or who committed it. It's a completely emotional response and super understandable in that context.
These girls need to thank their lucky stars that their victim miraculously survived. Otherwise, it's highly unlikely they'd be able to be released now.
Neither one of them should of been let out in my opinion.
If you think she's being traumatized by being in a mental health facility you watch too much TV. Regardless of grade of MHI - Forensics and Regular Behavioral...................She's getting 2 snacks, and 3 real fresh nutritious meals per day. A real bed in a real semi-private room setting. 24 Hour Medical Care, her own personal assistant (behavioral technician). Classes, TV access, outings access, and further therapeutic access in a Joint Commission Accredited facility (the same criterion as your local hospital). Family visits, internet access, the chance to wear regular street clothes and use preferred personal hygiene products. Prison offers none of that.
Prison got cell phones and narcotics tho 🤷♀️
It really is sad that Morgan's parents (or at least her mom anyway) never got her any sort of help. If they had this whole tragic situation probably would have never happened.
This judge is a genius. His overthinking is amazing.
This is setting a really dangerous precedent for other offenders who do the same kind of crimes.
Who tf keeps making those disgusting noises into the mic?
Lmfao!
You mean the keyboard typing by the court stenographer?
Right? 🤣 Whoever's hacking like that should not be there spreading it.
It’s the Judge.
seriously, the whole time i am thinking _Get a glass of water and stay away from that mic!_ >_
release her to where? she has no family or friends
her parents abused her
Group home 24:00
She is an adult.
Her parents abused her?
She knew what was right and wrong. She should be under the jail.
@@lisavandenhoven5672 Group homes are a place for SOME adults (or children who meet criteria) with disabilities/mental health diagnoses to live and receive further clinical treatment and socialization opportunities. I'm not saying I agree she's ready for that but they are available post-incarceration/hospitalization/institutilization.
imagine allowing murderers to get away with it by going to a psych hospital for a decade instead of jail just to be released. what a joke
I don't think either of these girls should ever be released. Think about the victim. How horribly she was injured, both physically, and mentally. She thought these girls were her friends. I can't believe they even have any right to be out at all.
If you feel so strongly about the victim's perspective, you should probably look up her statement about the perpetrators.
Doesn't sound like she should be released - just because she wants out doesn't mean she should get out
No. Slenderman thinks you're coo-coo for coa-coa puffs and should stay in bonkerville.
She should be evaluated by a different doctor. This one seems to be a little too close to her.
Nope. No way for the victim to beg their way out of their fate.
?? The victim is alive dude
Sometimes I wonder just how many of these comments are created by bots. This seems to be one of them.
@@fargoth391 no my service is bad and thought one didnt send so i posted another and then they both posted i am unfortunately a real person
@@fargoth391 and like what kind of comments the ones that dont agree w ur opinion?
Yes, only bc she got lucky. Their intention was to kill her, and after stabbing her 19 times they were very close at succeeding. @@poopass7067
It baffles me that these girls are being let loose.
If she could take accountability, recognize she is sick, agree to take the meds, & have supervision I wouldn’t be against release. However, she hasn’t met a single one of those, let alone all.
Nope keep those two locked up forever.
One is already out
They weren't even teenagers yet.
@@kingayy9267 People in the USA like to lock up children for life for things they did when their brains weren't fully developed. The "land of the free" incarcerates more people than China.
@@kingayy9267and???
If she could take accountability, recognize she is sick, agree to take the meds, & have supervision I wouldn’t be against release. However, she hasn’t met a single one of those, let alone all.
If she did this as an adult and just went to prison, she would be out already and no one would be talking about it.
Sorry but this is the first ive heard her parents abused her?
Does anyone know anything about this?
I haven’t heard either. If so will they not investigate? She is definitely psychotic imo and should not be released
No…I think it came out when she got locked up in the hospital, so that’s why it came out now, but self reporting that should be investigated..I would report anything to be released also😮😮😢
Perhaps it wasn't released because she was a minor? Not sure.
If the parents were abusive they should have been charged. Or did she only say this after her father was dead and couldn't defend himself?
@@mocktrialbabe that totally makes sense..I bet your right
Smfh this is truly disgusting to me personally! They damn near k!lled someone yet they'll both be having a life free & clear? Nah im fully against this - what about the victim? Neither of those girls should have or EVER be given the chance to roam the streets like thwy didn't do what they clearly did 🙄 Our system really needs some serious changes imo
I cannot believe they’ve said that “elements of fantasy” complicate what she did at 12. I did not believe Slender Man was real at 12, much less believe that he was coming for my family or would commend me for killing a friend. She has issues that are entirely outside of her age.
I remember my parents and my friends' parents all giving us a double take when we talked about slenderman. "Did y'all hear about that little girl? Y'all better watch it with all y'all jokes. Life and death are in the power of the tongue!" And we were just like... the video game man?
It’s crazy how people act like actions don’t have consequences
This is very disturbing! One sykie doctor said she’s ready to be released , the other doctor said she is no way ready to be released , and gave gave MENY reasons.
MANY
Psych
I feel like all having her present in these hearings is doing is teaching her what to say and what not to say so that she seems ready for release. Now she’ll know that anything she says will be spoken about in court and she’ll probably pretend to comply and be agreeable about her treatment plan, until she gets her way.
Sure,release her. To prison.
They should both be in jail can’t believe one is out!
She was released because she didn't stab PL 19 times. That's a pretty big distinction.
@@Haarschmuckfachgeschafttadpole but she planned didn’t she! Pretty big difference! She’s as calculating
@@carolinestreeter975that’s true, she was the one that planned it but brought her friend along that ended up doing the job for her. Almost like a Charlie Manson
Both of them are wildly no smart, both of them should be in jail forever
So she's now sayin she faked it to stay in the nut-hut. Let her out. Take her straight to prison.
I'm guessing it's a combination of Autism or neurodivergence and C-PTSD. I had dissociative episodes and would pretend to be psychotic to protect myself from my abusers at parochial school and physical violence at home. No one was listening and because I wasn't able to articulate myself like neurotypical authority figures, it was safer to play crazy to push everyone away.
The victim should be able to know where the released girl is at all times for her safety
She showed what she is capable of and at such a young age! That horrible harm was towards a “friend” she “cared” about.. In my opinion she shouldn’t be out of supervision ever.
If this girl was able to orchestrate a whole plethora of mentally ill symptoms to justify her crimes, its not far fetched to believe shed orchestrate abuse claims.
And based on this comment, its not far fetched you are not exactly bright or compassionate.
Absolutely.
Compassion 😂 she doesn't deserve compassion I bet she's full of it too @@primmiexoxo