Agree on goofy Queen being the right call. If we were gonna get a goofy villain it would make sense for it to be the computer/internet villain because the internet lol randumb and it would also make sense for it to be a villain in one of the earlier chapters when the stakes aren't as high.
My favourite part of the news letter was the splendid description of the cup! "Cup with legs climbing a wall, occasionally sweating and slipping down, but ever climbing"
the whole "darker dark world" thing reminds me of that page from the spamton sweepstakes that says "But what if it could... get darker than dark?" with the water sounds and that black moving mass over the chair. in the ch3 screenshot it sort of looks like they're standing on a dock (where there would be water) so i wonder if these are related? just throwing ideas around i could be insane lmao
6:24 "Just because we know that we're going to visit a location doesn't mean that's where the Dark World will be." Exactly! If that was the case, there'd be a Dark Wolrd in the Police Station in chapter 2 just because we haven't got to see it in chapter 1. But no: ch2's Dark World was in the Library. I wonder if people thought that just because the image is kinda spooky and misterious.
I haven't finished watching but the fact that every theory youtuber skips over the merch segment makes me cry a little "You can use toriel as a puppet, perhaps thats her only good use..." (quote from memory might be a bit different)
I always thought an Alphys bossfight or at least a one-hit kill could have happened in Undertale especially within the Genocide-route. So maybe it might happen in Deltarune? Alphys is the only important friend we never fight afterall.
13:55 A Darkner who represents a version for a Lightnetr.. I've already seen and thought about this idea before regarding Ralsei, but a Darkner who represents Gerson and in itself draws a parallel to Ralsei, making him some character development? That's a pretty unique and interesting idea.
yes the cup is sweating, but there is also something else, you can see it even when the cup is at the bottom there really hard to see you have to look very closely as they are just a few moving pixels that are partially transparent.
they say it in chapter 2 after the dark world but I can't really remember the exact thing that makes them say it but here's a link to the dialog dump for when they say it if you scroll down to the bottom its there. hushbugger.github.io/drdia/#shop1
5:00 I figure it's a storage space in the church given she seems to be wearing rather formal church attire, and churches usually have a storage room somewhere full of holiday decorations
She's actually just wearing her normal outfit, but yeah It is possible that its from the church but we don't know if their religion celebrates Christmas.
@@blackchestnut Hmm, perhaps it is, I thought it looked like she had a white collar on this dress and no sweater vest, but that might just be her sleeve collars if she's holding the flashlight from the shiny end, and there's a single red and green pixel each peeking out that might be the vest, though I would expect to see a lot more of the vest in this pose 🤷
@@PNats-fg4bw Funny "haha got you" joke, just like Sans said it in chapter 2. Personally, I don't doubt it happening again, since it's been years again.
The "sick fruit juice" is actually referring to communion wine/grape juice, which isn't normally served in a red solo cup, lol! The punch bowl I could see being at the church but it's definitely not the juice father alvin was referring to
Regarding the "enter while sleeping to enter a Darker Dark World" thing, didn't Noelle & Berdly seem to think they were asleep prior to entering the Dark World? They were under the impression it was a dream & their heads were flat on their desk when they awoke. So why were they in the same Dark World as Kris & Susie? Plus, we've seen intro areas like ?????? (that's the name.) be creepy, & Cyber Field was kind of remote.
The concept of "A Darker Dark world" reminds me to a part from Mario and Luigi Dream Team called "Dream's deep" Dream's Deep is a section where Mario goes to the deeper thoughts of Luigi, Such as feelings for his brother, and how he is mainly outcasted from the adventures that Mario goes. If that Happens in Deltarune, we could see Kris' or Susie's Inner Thoughts about the whole thing happening to them both which would be very, VERY cool.
yes the cup is sweating, but there is also something else, you can see it even when the cup is at the bottom there really hard to see you have to look very closely as they are just a few moving pixels that are partially transparent.
9:30 On the off-chance the balloon is from the Hospital, it may imply that Chapter 5 is when Rudy dies, causing Noelle to snap and start the Roaring, with people evacuating to the Bunker, which would be Chapter 6, and then Chapter 7 is The Roaring.
Also I want to say, the fruit juice at the church is most likely for sacrament, like wine. They wouldn’t be using red solo cups and punch bowls for that. It’s usually a little tray that’s passed around. So unless it’s like, a church social or something, that’s not really an argument that makes sense to me…
I'd sure there's no lore for it but I NEED Noelle to pop that balloon. Or maybe all the balloons in the chapter. And I want it to be excessive enough that somebody asks and her answer will end up being both baffling and relevant. Or... It can just be nothing.
I think that the place they're in on the ch3 image problably is the secret boss area or something. I also think that ralsei might no be present in this dark world, at least for the most or it :P
The are is called intro area and we know Ralsei is in the Chapter thanks to the unused Sneaking animation and the dialogue released in the last newsletter before this one
@@whocaresaboutthename6850 Yup, the filename for the Kris and Susie image in ch3 section is literally called "ch3_introarea". It's almost 100% sure it is one of the first rooms in the ch3's Dark World, if not the first one. Unless it's actually the intro area for the secret boss place, like the corridor in Queen's Basement and the starway in Card Castle. This is way less likely tho.
@@whocaresaboutthename6850oh yeah, sorry my bad! But i still think ralsei isn't going to be a major part of the chapter, i think he'll be there but not be too important for this chapter- don't know.
Personally, I think that the place in the "Intro area" is the couch, and we're going to be travelling through the house up to Toriel's room. The song in the "Green room" (which appears to be based on Kris's room) is a alt version of "Hip shop". Both times hip shop has been used, it is in the last area of the dark world. Along with that, I just think “Intro Area” looks couch like; can’t explain how though.
I dont think the red solo cup climbing is an actual sprite from the chapter and more of a gag for the newsletter like the one where spamton gets roasted on a fire.
I’m gonna be honest I don’t think Green Room will not be the intro area I have no idea how or why people thought it was the intro area, to me it feels… like a final area vibes
I thought there was already another newsletter 😭
on halloween
Agree on goofy Queen being the right call. If we were gonna get a goofy villain it would make sense for it to be the computer/internet villain because the internet lol randumb and it would also make sense for it to be a villain in one of the earlier chapters when the stakes aren't as high.
Hehe. RAMdumb.
16:53 seeing this in the newsletter just gave me the biggest grin knowing Toby has been seeing all our theory shenanigans for the past 3 years
My favourite part of the news letter was the splendid description of the cup! "Cup with legs climbing a wall, occasionally sweating and slipping down, but ever climbing"
the whole "darker dark world" thing reminds me of that page from the spamton sweepstakes that says "But what if it could... get darker than dark?" with the water sounds and that black moving mass over the chair. in the ch3 screenshot it sort of looks like they're standing on a dock (where there would be water) so i wonder if these are related?
just throwing ideas around i could be insane lmao
I figured it was just the darkroom couch and carpet, whereas the the rest of the screenshots are the TV part.
@@jinxsterr_Dispenser3741That's Boring
6:24 "Just because we know that we're going to visit a location doesn't mean that's where the Dark World will be." Exactly! If that was the case, there'd be a Dark Wolrd in the Police Station in chapter 2 just because we haven't got to see it in chapter 1. But no: ch2's Dark World was in the Library. I wonder if people thought that just because the image is kinda spooky and misterious.
“Introarea” may be an intro to a new character, like a stage not the actual intro to the chapter. That does look like a crowd.
I haven't finished watching but the fact that every theory youtuber skips over the merch segment makes me cry a little
"You can use toriel as a puppet, perhaps thats her only good use..." (quote from memory might be a bit different)
I always thought an Alphys bossfight or at least a one-hit kill could have happened in Undertale especially within the Genocide-route. So maybe it might happen in Deltarune? Alphys is the only important friend we never fight afterall.
13:55 A Darkner who represents a version for a Lightnetr.. I've already seen and thought about this idea before regarding Ralsei, but a Darkner who represents Gerson and in itself draws a parallel to Ralsei, making him some character development? That's a pretty unique and interesting idea.
May I interest you in some Oberon Smog?
8:49 I think that’s supposed to be the cup sweeting as it struggles to climb
yes the cup is sweating, but there is also something else, you can see it even when the cup is at the bottom there really hard to see you have to look very closely as they are just a few moving pixels that are partially transparent.
@@blackchestnut .gif compression perhaps?
3:39 WAIT, WHEN DOES SEAM SAY THIS??
they say it in chapter 2 after the dark world but I can't really remember the exact thing that makes them say it but here's a link to the dialog dump for when they say it if you scroll down to the bottom its there. hushbugger.github.io/drdia/#shop1
@@blackchestnut Thank you, friend. I'll need to look into this.
Good points, I really hope we do see a version of Gerson in a future Chapter's Dark World!
5:00 I figure it's a storage space in the church given she seems to be wearing rather formal church attire, and churches usually have a storage room somewhere full of holiday decorations
She's actually just wearing her normal outfit, but yeah It is possible that its from the church but we don't know if their religion celebrates Christmas.
@@blackchestnut Hmm, perhaps it is, I thought it looked like she had a white collar on this dress and no sweater vest, but that might just be her sleeve collars if she's holding the flashlight from the shiny end, and there's a single red and green pixel each peeking out that might be the vest, though I would expect to see a lot more of the vest in this pose 🤷
What if Susie falls asleep halfway through the chapter? Seems possible for some kind of gag.
When Ch3 starts she's probably gonna say something like "I feel like I've been sleeping for years" and still be tired enough to fall sleep
@@PNats-fg4bw Funny "haha got you" joke, just like Sans said it in chapter 2. Personally, I don't doubt it happening again, since it's been years again.
I like to interpret Papyrus being a Chara being bad denier, trying to shift the blame on their past and the player.
hell yeah Black Chestnut you the goat
The "sick fruit juice" is actually referring to communion wine/grape juice, which isn't normally served in a red solo cup, lol! The punch bowl I could see being at the church but it's definitely not the juice father alvin was referring to
I mean, grapes are fruit.
Regarding the "enter while sleeping to enter a Darker Dark World" thing, didn't Noelle & Berdly seem to think they were asleep prior to entering the Dark World? They were under the impression it was a dream & their heads were flat on their desk when they awoke. So why were they in the same Dark World as Kris & Susie?
Plus, we've seen intro areas like ?????? (that's the name.) be creepy, & Cyber Field was kind of remote.
Yeah, I figure it’s just the darkroom stylized carpet and couch. Then the rest is either the tv, or how the tv affects the rest of the house.
Bc they weren't sleeping this is a KrisKnight Channel and we hate Closet Knight
The concept of "A Darker Dark world" reminds me to a part from Mario and Luigi Dream Team called "Dream's deep"
Dream's Deep is a section where Mario goes to the deeper thoughts of Luigi, Such as feelings for his brother, and how he is mainly outcasted from the adventures that Mario goes.
If that Happens in Deltarune, we could see Kris' or Susie's Inner Thoughts about the whole thing happening to them both which would be very, VERY cool.
sighhh where are my papyrus knight truthers.......
4:35 no it looks like it’s a amalgam
8:44 i think thats just the cup sweating cartoonishly, not dust
yes the cup is sweating, but there is also something else, you can see it even when the cup is at the bottom there really hard to see you have to look very closely as they are just a few moving pixels that are partially transparent.
Chestnut is correct, if you look near the top of the ladder you can see a few slightly transparent pixels moving across the ladder
Oh, there is dust. whoops
9:30
On the off-chance the balloon is from the Hospital, it may imply that Chapter 5 is when Rudy dies, causing Noelle to snap and start the Roaring, with people evacuating to the Bunker, which would be Chapter 6, and then Chapter 7 is The Roaring.
>massive analysis
>looks inside
>20 minutes
here let me fix it "Massive Deltarune newsletter, analysis"
9:12 oh i have a theory about this. (its a crackpot theory saying that the balloon is teasing the roaring)
Also I want to say, the fruit juice at the church is most likely for sacrament, like wine. They wouldn’t be using red solo cups and punch bowls for that. It’s usually a little tray that’s passed around. So unless it’s like, a church social or something, that’s not really an argument that makes sense to me…
Me at 12:00 - GASTER! GASTER! GASTER!
lol yeah that's true but we kinda already know that Gaster is in Deltarune
17:29 BUT HE'S IMPORTANT
Would you be interested in making a mini-video or a short about the Chara letter?
I might make a video talking about Chara later where I cover the letter, but that won't be until after chapter 3&4 come out.
7:13 this also totally lines up with the chess theory’s prediction as it predicts ch4’s dark world will be in the church
I'd sure there's no lore for it but I NEED Noelle to pop that balloon. Or maybe all the balloons in the chapter. And I want it to be excessive enough that somebody asks and her answer will end up being both baffling and relevant.
Or... It can just be nothing.
I think that the place they're in on the ch3 image problably is the secret boss area or something. I also think that ralsei might no be present in this dark world, at least for the most or it :P
The are is called intro area and we know Ralsei is in the Chapter thanks to the unused Sneaking animation and the dialogue released in the last newsletter before this one
@@whocaresaboutthename6850 Yup, the filename for the Kris and Susie image in ch3 section is literally called "ch3_introarea". It's almost 100% sure it is one of the first rooms in the ch3's Dark World, if not the first one. Unless it's actually the intro area for the secret boss place, like the corridor in Queen's Basement and the starway in Card Castle. This is way less likely tho.
@@whocaresaboutthename6850oh yeah, sorry my bad! But i still think ralsei isn't going to be a major part of the chapter, i think he'll be there but not be too important for this chapter- don't know.
Intro room appendages look like audience. Blobs that represent people.
4:07 this is def a reference to the docks in yume nikki. Don’t know what it could represent in the context of deltarune tho
Personally, I think that the place in the "Intro area" is the couch, and we're going to be travelling through the house up to Toriel's room. The song in the "Green room" (which appears to be based on Kris's room) is a alt version of "Hip shop". Both times hip shop has been used, it is in the last area of the dark world. Along with that, I just think “Intro Area” looks couch like; can’t explain how though.
I dont think the red solo cup climbing is an actual sprite from the chapter and more of a gag for the newsletter like the one where spamton gets roasted on a fire.
Try the new psychological horror game Tsunagari Chess School, maybe video worthy
I’m gonna be honest
I don’t think Green Room will not be the intro area
I have no idea how or why people thought it was the intro area, to me it feels… like a final area vibes