LS SWAP NOVA AFTERMARKET GAUGES INSTALL

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  • @SD70ACE-
    @SD70ACE- 5 років тому +6

    Bad luck garage, you did it again, uncle Ray is blessed to have you in his corner..

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому +1

      Thanks for the compliment. Still have a few bugs to work out but she’s getting closer and closer every day now. 👍🏻

  • @larryalexander4833
    @larryalexander4833 6 місяців тому

    Hay thanks ibought same gauges for jeep yj about a year ago now. But due to life and and having surgery twice etc.i haven't gotten them installed yet. I sure hope they work well for me . Hope to finally getting them installed soon .

  • @Daniel-ry9ds
    @Daniel-ry9ds 5 років тому +1

    If compatible with the chosen gauge setup Autometer has a kit, p/n 5284, that includes the oil psi adapter for the top of the block and the coolant temp adapter for the port on the cylinder head along with a temp sender. Both adapters are direct fit. Just an additional option for those who would choose not to drill and tap. Those gauges look great btw. Keep it up.

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому

      I’ve actually used that kit! The oil pressure adapter in that kit works for sure but the coolant temp adapter only works with auto meters included shallow mount sender. If you’re doing autometer gauges then it’s the way to go but if not you need to made sure the temp gauge you’re using is the same ohm rating as the autometer sender (I haven’t had one yet that was😔).

  • @seanjhonson6441
    @seanjhonson6441 3 роки тому +2

    Awesome vid and info. Looking for something to use in my 72 c10 without spending $800. Looks like a good choice.

  • @Geographydude337
    @Geographydude337 Рік тому

    You can also get a harness that has the connector for the stock temperature sensor

  • @50shadesofrust65
    @50shadesofrust65 5 років тому

    Remember that both heads have the sender hole. I ran regular sender to the ecm and used the right port for adapter to guage.

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому

      Yes that’s exactly how it’s set up. Only I prefer to drill and tap the passenger head instead of using adapter that stick out and can be broken as mentioned in the video. The oem sensors and engine harness setup was done in a separate video in the DRNova playlist. This video was dedicated to the gauges only.

    • @PFW1999PKT
      @PFW1999PKT 4 роки тому

      FYI Classic Instruments makes a 12mm Temp sender that will fit the stock thread on the LS head. SN12MM is the number. It’s on Summit and Speedway for sale.

  • @jasoncameron34
    @jasoncameron34 5 років тому +1

    Those gauges turned out awesome brother you both did great work on them. And i think the paint was the was to go anyway because it might have lifted or bubbled anyway. Cant wait to see what new whip you got 😀😀

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому +1

      If I get off work in time tomorrow then I may go over there to Rays to get it off the trailer and do a little video. 😉

    • @jasoncameron34
      @jasoncameron34 5 років тому

      @@BadLuckGarage Thats awesome brother bet you both are excited to see her done and take it for a spin great job on the build brother

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому +1

      Yea I can’t wait. We still need to get a limited slip for the rear and give it a few hundred break in miles but once the exhaust is on it’s definitely gonna get some seat time. 👍🏻

    • @jasoncameron34
      @jasoncameron34 5 років тому

      @@BadLuckGarage Im sure you cant🤯 lol and that rearend will be a cool video too watch and get some wet-ass from driving it lol

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому

      😅

  • @georgedickson2562
    @georgedickson2562 5 років тому

    That looks great I really wish there was someone who worked on 5.7 hemis so I could upgrade my truck lol that would be cheaper than buying me a ls truck lol but I love watching your videos keep them coming

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому

      Do basic bolt one and nitrous brother. Headers, exhaust, intake, and tune work well on hemis from what I hear. Then throw the juice at it. 👍🏻

  • @williamcordle-FLman
    @williamcordle-FLman 5 років тому

    Great video as always man little smacky as usual still waiting for the next project reveal 😉

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому +1

      It’ll most likely be in the next few days because we’re gonna need the trailer for the Nova so I’ll probably do the reveal when we take the new project off the tailer. 😉

  • @stevec5632
    @stevec5632 11 місяців тому

    I jave these gauges in my swap.
    I cabt get the tach to work.
    Tried the 1k 1/2 ohm resistor and still nothing

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  11 місяців тому

      ua-cam.com/video/FS7aRfYkFAQ/v-deo.htmlsi=x4StwHJtdil7Ovfz

  • @randyrasmussen8031
    @randyrasmussen8031 3 роки тому

    Wait can I just splice into the factory temp sensor?

  • @kendrickcharles4612
    @kendrickcharles4612 2 роки тому

    You have a wiring video? Or diagram I have nvu gauges for 85 Grand Prix I’m trying wire them to the pcm

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  2 роки тому

      The only gauges you could possibly wire straight to the pcm would be the tach and the speedo IF you’re using an electric speedo. The rest require sending units. All this was explained in the video. I would suggest watching it again.

  • @jameymote4598
    @jameymote4598 5 років тому

    Its coming together looks great...😎 👍 👊

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому +1

      thank you sir. After we get the exhaust this weekend it'll be out cruising so i can tune it.👍

  • @MrZaner1
    @MrZaner1 5 років тому

    Looks damn nice! Great work fellas

  • @Curtiss1965
    @Curtiss1965 2 роки тому

    What do you do when entering a tunnel? Everybody knows that there's no gps signal in tunnels...

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  2 роки тому +1

      Why would I need a gps signal? Everybody who paid attention the the video knows nothing on this car uses gps. 🤣

  • @cedricdeoan1214
    @cedricdeoan1214 11 місяців тому

    Why can’t you find any gauges that works with the sensors that comes on ls engines

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  11 місяців тому

      Because the oil pressure sending unit and most of the coolant temp sending units on an LS engine arent made to work with gauges, they send a 0-5v signal to the pcm and the BCM then controls those gauges in factory applications. The speedometer in this car is also cable driven and would require a vss to cable converter that costs more than I have in all these gauges put together just to run the factory speedometer, and this car didn’t have a factory tach or oil pressure gauge to begin with. This was the cheapest way to get nice modern looking and accurate gauges in the car.

  • @lg8471
    @lg8471 2 роки тому

    What Guage steel did you use on the cluster panel.....
    I might vinyl wrap it with carbon fiber pattern... might put thin pad behind vinyl and use some showy torque screws....
    Thx for the info man....
    PS... if you spray water on the panel and squeeze that on the Guage panel... like windows tint or car wrap....
    Works....
    Good video Bruddah....

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  2 роки тому +1

      I don’t remember exactly. It’s been a few years, but I would recommend skipping the sheet metal and just buying a piece of black abs on eBay to make the panel. It ends looking a lot nicer and the finish is going to be more durable. I’ve actually had a piece sitting here for almost 2 years now waiting to redo the dash in the DR Nova but Ray won’t stop driving it long enough for me to redo it. Lol

    • @lg8471
      @lg8471 2 роки тому

      @Bad Luck Garage I thought about that...
      I noticed Walmart had some black foam core I'd say 1/4" thick...
      It's pretty stiff, but not as stiff as ABS would be... I bet it would still work though....
      Yours did look good....
      Thinking about getting a 3D printer.. found one that prints about 22"X22" cubed. I have a design in mind . I've done computer graphics before for years, but it depends on the program...
      Less than a grand.....
      (780.00??)....
      Once I made a finished prototype I would be happy with I could stack them a dozen high and snap them apart like model car parts... sell them for a good price....
      395.00 each..... Everyone wants an awesome New part lol.....
      I'd incorporate rivets for more money and a few other changes and add 150.00 to price...
      The style I'd implicate would be like steampunk industrial design.... I could make the built in bezels on the large guages aim towards the driver at an angle...
      All kinds of possibilities brothebrother..... lol...
      I just gotta do it.....it.....
      I'm an Artist... helps, huh...

  • @christopherluna3455
    @christopherluna3455 3 роки тому

    Hey dude, nice setup on the gauges! Im also running the same set on my ls swap project. Buttt, im having a few issues with them. Was wondering if we could chat on facebook or over the phone? Lmk if that works for you!? Thanks a bunch, have a good one.

  • @pierre-yveslavigne9688
    @pierre-yveslavigne9688 2 роки тому

    Question... Do the gauges should be more angle up ? I saw your other Video. It look acceptable but I'm do the same job right now and thinking about more angle ...🤔... Good job btw👍

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  2 роки тому +1

      They're at the exact same angle as the factory speedo was. Unless you're driving with your head against the roof, theres no need to angle them,lol.

  • @bc7896
    @bc7896 2 роки тому

    Do you daisy chain the 12V ignition wires to all Ignition sources or just power for lights?

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  2 роки тому

      Originally I had all the 12 V ignition wires Daisy chain together. But I ended up having to run just the voltameter on its own separate lead to get it to read correctly.

  • @babzerlli8467
    @babzerlli8467 3 місяці тому

    how did you go with the speedometer working? any issues?

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  3 місяці тому +1

      Nope. Everything’s still working fine 4 years later.

  • @Bball128
    @Bball128 2 роки тому

    Can you use the driver's side head for the temperature sensor? Factory gauge

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  2 роки тому +1

      You can use whichever head you want but you’re gonna have to have the temp sensor in the other one and the wire harness is generally set up to have it in the drivers head so it really doesn’t make sense to swap it to the other head.

  • @RustyWrenches
    @RustyWrenches 5 років тому

    Looks great!

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому

      Thanks Nick! I’m happy with it overall but there’s a few things I wish we would have gotten a bit more precise.

  • @TheDrivewayEngineer
    @TheDrivewayEngineer 5 років тому

    Man that turned out really nice

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому

      Thanks brother. Hey I’m about to hit you up on messenger. Do you know how to tell the difference in 4L80e from 99-2003 from one from 2004-up without dropping the pan?

    • @TheDrivewayEngineer
      @TheDrivewayEngineer 5 років тому

      @@BadLuckGarage the valley cover bolts are bigger on the 04-up I think the knock sensors moved to the side of the block also

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому

      No brother I’m talking about the 4L80e, not the LS engines. The main harness connector is leaking transmission fluid so I need to replace the internal harness and plug assembly but there are two different harnesses. One for a 99-03 and one for a 2004-up. I’m not sure what this transmission originally came from so I’m trying to figure out which harness to order so I don’t have to drain it and pull the pan till I have the new harness.

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому

      The only difference I can find is the 04-up use the large plug on the neutral safety switch(which I’m not using). But I fail to see how that would effect the internal harness.

    • @TheDrivewayEngineer
      @TheDrivewayEngineer 5 років тому

      @@BadLuckGarage sorry, reading fail on my part. I know they list different bulkhead connectors, but the pinout is the same and I've never been able to figure out what the reason for the year break is, I've used them interchangeably.

  • @eddierodriguez2472
    @eddierodriguez2472 4 роки тому

    Is there any difference in the lighting between the 3-3/8" gauges and the 2". from the vid the smaller ones look brighter.

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  4 роки тому +1

      Yes the smaller gauges appear to be a bit brighter than the larger gauges. This issue could probably be fixed by wiring a resistor into the light feed to the smaller gauges to dim them a bit, but it’s really not that big of a deal so we haven’t done anything about it. The difference is more dramatic on camera than in person.

  • @GDG184
    @GDG184 4 роки тому

    How are the guages working a year later? Im thinking about doing this myself for my swap.

  • @joshuaavila8317
    @joshuaavila8317 5 років тому

    How did you wire the check engine light and the signal and high beams

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому +1

      signal and high beams - Use your vehicles original wiring
      check engine light- 12v ignition to light, grounds through appropriate pin in the pcm. You will need to refer to the pin-out for whatever pcm you used for your swap. Or if you bought a premade LS swap wire harness the wire will already be there and labeled.

  • @angelahlaing450
    @angelahlaing450 4 роки тому

    Hi ,My name id Htoo from Myanmar. Try to restoring 1963 Dodge D200.
    please answer my questions. How do I connect speedometer wire with guage? I also tune LS 6.0 engine with this C2 6 guages.But speedometer is not working well. Harness is BP standalone wiring harness.

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  4 роки тому

      Your BP Harness should have a wire labeled “VSS” or “speedometer”. You will connect that wire to the speedometer. The C2 speedometer reads a 16,000ppm signal if I remember correctly, so you need to change the VSS Output signal in your tune to 16,000ppm to be accurate with the C2 speedometer. After you do this then any changes you make to your tune for tire size or gear ratio changes will accurately change your speedometer settings. Alternatively you can just follow the instructions that came with the C2 gauges to calibrate the speedometer with the calibration button. I prefer to adjust the tune and not even install the button.

  • @whlnwgn
    @whlnwgn 3 роки тому

    Any measurement specs on the gauge panel?

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  3 роки тому +1

      Just measure the inside area of your factory cluster like we did in the video brother. I would suggest using a sheet of black plastic instead of sheet metal though. If you check out the video in the Chaos Theory Camaro playlist where I mounted the Holley Prodash. There’s a search link for black sheets of plastic like I used in that video. I may even end up redoing the DR Novas dahs with it down the road. 👍🏻

  • @BillyFargon
    @BillyFargon 5 років тому

    They turned out great!!

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому +1

      Thanks brother. Not as nice as your badass Dakota digitals, but they’ll do. 👍🏻

    • @BillyFargon
      @BillyFargon 5 років тому

      Bad Luck Garage at a third of the cost they look awesome!! I would use them!

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому

      I really do appreciate that brother. Just so you know, I actually went back and binge watched most of your Nova videos a few weeks ago to demotivate myself with The DRNOVA. 👍🏻 I love the color of yours. My first car that I was old enough to drive was a 73 olds omega and it was that same green color when I got it. Ray, my dad, and myself repainted it when I was 15 but the interior stayed the original green color. Regretfully I only have one picture of that car and it was after I totaled it. 😢

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому

      That was supposed to say “re-motivate”, not “demotivate”. Lol

    • @BillyFargon
      @BillyFargon 5 років тому

      @@BadLuckGarage thats awesome it makes me feel good :) I wish I had the ease of a phone camera back in the day so I could have pics of plenty of my cars but some to the early ones I don't have much :/ My Nova now is a blend of two of my old cars... My second car ever was a 76 nova that was lime green that I drove my senior year, then a year or so after high school I had a red 69 nova so this one now is a mix between the two. Reliving my youth :) But like those and many others I regret getting rid of them!

  • @charlesclemons741
    @charlesclemons741 5 років тому

    Awesome video! One question, you connected the harness that you made to another on that was already in the car. What harness was that?? Did it connect to the ECU somehow?

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому +2

      The harness end in the car is a combination of factory wires, wires from the psi harness, and new wires that I ran from the new oil pressure and water temp sending units. I just pinned them all into two connectors to make everything nice and neat. On my turbo C10, I just used mail spade connectors in the car and female connectors for the gauge cluster. I went fancy with some deutsch connectors here because a subscriber sent them to me.

    • @charlesclemons741
      @charlesclemons741 5 років тому

      @@BadLuckGarage Wow, that's pretty sweet! Great approach. Thanks for the reply!

    • @titogarcia5967
      @titogarcia5967 5 років тому +1

      @@BadLuckGarage Hey bud, i have the same gauges and am installing them on a 70 Nova LS swap myself and yours turned out awesome. Im probably beating a dead cat with this question but.. you had two connectors. how did you separate them? like, why did you use a 10 pin and a 6 pin separately? and what was in each? Sorry, just trying to wire mine just like yours! Thanks in advance.

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому +1

      I just used the connectors I had on hand. I believe a ten pin connectors was the largest I had but I needed 11 connections. So just to make it seem right in my head, I used a 3 pin connector for the 12v constant, 12v switched, and the ground. Then I put all the others in the 10 pin connector. So it separated the power and ground. Or maybe it was that I had a 12 pin connector and needed 13. I can’t remember now but either way I just remember I was one pin short so I decided to separate the “powers” to their own connector. The point is, if you get one connector that has enough pins then one is all you need. I was using parts that were sent to my by a subscriber to save a few bucks so I had to use two seperate connectors. Hope that makes sense.

    • @titogarcia5967
      @titogarcia5967 5 років тому

      @@BadLuckGarage lol.. ok, it makes sense. Thank you for the quick response!! Im about to place my ebay order for some.

  • @adam_chevyss
    @adam_chevyss 5 років тому

    I wonder if you could use some sort of trigger, set to a desired RPM and turn on the second color on the tach like a shift light?

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому

      Yea you absolutely could. I thought the same thing but there’s no adjustable output on the tach so you would need to use some sort of adjustable rpm switch. The same could be done with the speedometer. The other gauges don’t have dual illumination.

  • @dustinchesshir4082
    @dustinchesshir4082 5 років тому +3

    lol i must say again lol nice plugs

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому +1

      And I say again....thanks for sending them! Love these things!!!

    • @dustinchesshir4082
      @dustinchesshir4082 5 років тому

      @@BadLuckGarage I think I know what's wrong with the volt gauge it's the position you've got it on the dashboard top left right if so there must be something wrong with the top left hole on all gauge panels my water temp sensor quit top left hole LOL just the other day was working fine and now nothing checked all the powers on the wires even check the wires coming from the sensor everything seems to be testing good but not reading anyting

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому

      Lol. Yea brother I think the gauge is just bad. If I check voltage at the back of the gauge with a multimeter it’s correct but the gauge itself isn’t reading what the multimeter it reading.

    • @dustinchesshir4082
      @dustinchesshir4082 5 років тому

      @@BadLuckGarage LOL yeah I'm not sure mine just quit to I was just blaming it on the left top hole

  • @rafatrill
    @rafatrill 5 років тому

    Badass gauges, how do u hook up the check engine light?

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому +1

      Thanks brother. Check engine light is a ground signal from pcm. So you send switched ignition power to one side of the light and the pcm wire to the other side. The pcm will ground the circuit to turn the light on.

    • @rafatrill
      @rafatrill 5 років тому

      @@BadLuckGarage do u know the name of that wire/ground signal like if I look up my pcm

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому +1

      On most truck harnesses it will be PIN 46 but you should always check the wiring diagram for your specific vehicle. It should be labeled as “MIL LIGHT” or “MIL CONTROL”.

    • @rafatrill
      @rafatrill 5 років тому

      @@BadLuckGarage thanks man that will help me a lot down the road

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому +1

      No problem man. 👍🏻

  • @joekingrey1423
    @joekingrey1423 5 років тому

    Looks great but one question, will the Speedo be accurate with the the factory pulse count without the stock rear gear and tire diameter? I think that you will probably have to use the calibration feature on the gauge

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому +2

      I covered that in the video brother. I can calibrate it in the tune as long as I know what PPM the speedometer is. I never use the calibrate button with aftermarket gauges because of you disconnect the battery then you have to do it all over again . I prefer to just adjust the settings in the tune and be done with it. 😉 Of course if you don’t have HPTuners or a similiar tuner to properly set up your tune then you’re kinda stuck dealing with the speedometers calibrate feature.

    • @joekingrey1423
      @joekingrey1423 5 років тому

      I know that you said that you will change the ecu tune for the the gauge but I don't think that it will read correctly unless you adjust the pulses per mile to live with the Nova's gearing and tire diameter. Curious to see the outcome.

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому +2

      All that is adjustable in the tune brother. This particular speedometer works off a 16,000ppm signal(just called them this morning). All you have to do is set the ppm output to 16,000 in the tune. Then you can just adjust for gear ratio and tire size in the tune as you would for a stock vehicle. This is the method I always use and is the most reliable and pain free way to ensure accuracy. 👍🏻 This method will work with any electronic speedometer wether it’s an oem style speedo in a late model swap or an aftermarket speedo such as I’m using here. As long as you know the ppm of the speedometer, you can adjust the factory pcm to match and your golden.

  • @1bad69xss4
    @1bad69xss4 4 роки тому

    How’s these holding up bud?

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  4 роки тому

      Working great. Drove it back from the rearend guy a couple hours ago.

  • @infamousnova
    @infamousnova 4 роки тому

    What you charge to make another one of those?

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  4 роки тому +1

      Sorry brother. I don’t really do outside work. I make videos showing people how to do things and put links for the parts needed in the video descriptions. This is a Do It Yourself channel. 👍🏻

    • @infamousnova
      @infamousnova 2 роки тому

      @@BadLuckGarage what did you use to hold the gauges? Cardboard?

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  2 роки тому +1

      @@infamousnova 10:03

    • @infamousnova
      @infamousnova 2 роки тому

      @@BadLuckGarage The consistency, no one is more consistent than you 🤣. I just knew a time stamp was coming lol

    • @infamousnova
      @infamousnova 2 роки тому

      @@BadLuckGarage 22 gauge?

  • @1bad69xss4
    @1bad69xss4 5 років тому

    Holy smokes that looks good. Make me one for my 69...

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому

      Hell if I can do it so can you! Just need some sheetmetal shears and some holesaws brother. 👍🏻

    • @1bad69xss4
      @1bad69xss4 5 років тому

      Bad Luck Garage Oh yea!! Looks simple. Did you figure out the volt meter?

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому

      I think so. I believe the wire I used for switched ignition to power the gauges was actually the old battery warning wire and that the voltage is varying by alternator load which is totally wrong. I just need to clip that wire and is a switched 12v wire that doesn’t vary the voltage.

    • @1bad69xss4
      @1bad69xss4 5 років тому

      Bad Luck Garage Heck yea!! Good deal. I’m fixing to buy them gauges. What gauge was that sheet metal? I was thinking of using aluminum what’s your thoughts.

    • @BadLuckGarage
      @BadLuckGarage  5 років тому

      It’s actua a piece of stainless Ray brought over and I honestly have no clue about the thickness. I would have preferred to use some 1/8 aluminum but that would require a bandsaw to cut it and I don’t have one. Also you may notice there’s a slight gap on one side. That’s because when he took measurements he didn’t take into account that the metal would actually have to curve a bit to fit. So when you lay it in flat it fits perfect, but once it’s screwed down to contour to the shape of the original trim it created a small gap on the side.