Cossack is also insanely maneuverable and quick. It feels like a speedboat, with very good turning and braking. Its turrets are quick too. There's really nothing to dislike about this ship.
Lightning has the same conceal as Cossack. You trade some extra dpm (1 extra turret with 5s reload instead of 4.5s for the lightning) for 1 torp launcher, but longer range and better reload on the torpedoes. And no, the Heal comes at T9 for the british destroyer. Lightning does not have it. Also Lighting shells are slightly better, flight time to 12km is 9.7s for lightning, and 12s for Cossak, making it easier to land shots at the limit of your range. Overall the Cossack is slightly better than the lightning for anything but torp alpha strike.
Lightning is good ship , but have some flaws no base premium camo , and is not premoium = you cant train your main commander on it , I have played lighting few years back when I have grinded line , but cossack I played in ranked and she work there well .
I really enjoy this ship for operations, that fast reload on the torps allows you to torp the battleships in the beginning of Narai and Raptor. It's so maneuverable that I don't mind taking a pot shot to get the guns aimed at me and off of my team for a few seconds so the bot keeps swapping targets and shell types and those guns just shred destroyers.
All of the Tribal class in game are insanely strong, both Haida and Huron are very strong T7 DDs. Cossack/Cossack B is an absolute monster. The fast smokes and hydro along with the gun power, for me, really reward aggressive play. Even subs have to be terrified of this thing because it’s stealth and hydro means it can sneak up to subs and get on top of them with hydro, at which point, back to port you go. An absolute favourite ship and I do have both Cossack and Cossack B.
I have both Cossack and Cossack B. Very strong ships. I had it for years, then got "B" in a crate a few moths back. Strong contender for best DD at Tier.
Cossack's strengths are obvious. The downsides are lack of a heal; weak AA, and low-velocity shells. With eight guns the ship is ridiculous against tiers 6 and 7 and generally strong against tiers 8 and 9. Because its hydro can be equipped/signaled to run for 4 minutes it's especially good against subs. The problems come from tier 10 and CVs. The 5-second reload isn't competitive against fast-firing high-tier DDs. You're forced into a stealth role in most T10 battles, able to fire only 4 torps every minute. Cossack is both frustrating and rewarding. I recommend it based on 275 battles experience.
The other thing to mention is that Cossack has a speedboost - which removes the being caught by other ships that can happen with mainline british dds....
Hey PQ love the content. I dont play much, but ironically when I do, I usually see you in game. Thanks for the victories and informative content. Cheers.
What a lot of people don't comment on enough is the engines that a lot of the Royal Navy ships have. The acceleration/decelleration is fantastic across all classes. I have HMS Vanguard and her speed,accel/deccel and agility means I can play her like a cruiser, which I do. ;-) The RN Destroyers also have excellent engines and can get themselves into and out of trouble very well. 🙂
Ive been winning almost every game of ranked i play on my lightning, the british destroyers are beasts. I think i would be very happy with the cossack.
The entire video I was sitting wondering have I lost my mind or do I have a glitched Lightning? Though at the same time still thinking Lightning is strong.
My best Game considering spotting was with Shima. Smoked a random Mino around the Map and he went ham (~230k spotting) :D So sad to see CV getting these Numbers w/o even doing it on purpose
Lots of strong T8 DDs tbh. Harekaze, Asashio, Orkan, Split, Loyang and Akizuki are also top contenders. I personally think Harekaze and Split get the top spot, but no doubt Cossack is very strong. Le Terrible is great, but very vulnerable to CVs and it's not as strong as Mogador at its tier. Kidd is strong, but I don't think it's as strong as some of the newer ships, such as Cossack.
@@Joshua-fi4ji what makes kidd the most utility ship is its long smoke duration, and action time, heavy aa, powerful guns, but most imoortantly, the strong heal. Heals single handedly make ot lopsidded since you can always take a trade and come back
Extremely strong. For ranked it may be the best dd. Great cap contester/ dd knife fighter. It also looses no speed when turning so can make full speed turns.
Historically WWII warships fought fire with foam or CO2 because lots of stuff on a ship has fires which water doesn't work well on (like fuel oil which floats), in that scenario you could easily have follow up HE blow away the flame retardant and relight the fire.
Picked it up today and went 5-0 in ranked immediately. First game I said "oh boy this one is good" about halfway through because it felt SO good to play. 10/10 ship.
I got the Cossack B last year and do well with her - don’t play her enough! And the short smokes don’t lull you into camping too long and eating a torp!
I got lucky with uncle same container, cossack drop, initially I have huron which was a reward I believe in a dockyard mission. comparison wise, huron have faster gun reload but concealment is at 6.2km while cossack has extra gun, conceal is at 5.5, along with a 10km torps, its nice creeping up to unsuspecting enemies XD
Man, I remember getting this when it was released, pre CV rework. I thought it was the best gunboat dd in the game at the time. Then the carrier rework happened and this thing has no noticeable AA so I play it a lot less
I just got the ship and I like it but I was shooting a tier 9 bb in smoke shot 68 shells 54 didnt penatrate and I caused I think 3000k damage with no fires. Its almost like am I supposed to spot and thats it because the shells are doing nothing to other ships but give my general position away to the enemy.
Personally I believe the best gun boat dd at t8 is Kidd! Best AA , long smoke for farm or hide squishy cruisers of your team, and of course heal! With Fletcher level dpm...
Cossack is my main dd for ranked, it is great in almost every aspect though I do am eyeing Fenyang as it is almost similar in everything except torpedoes, smoke & concealment, much better velocity though.
I have Cossack B, & it's very agile, to say the least. Not fast, which is a let-down, but agility is really good. Add Hydro, & captains' skill of RPF, & you're looking at a great DD-hunter. Guns are decent enough, torps are ok, I guess, but limited arcs suck. I'd rate Cosack at 7-8 out of 10? Bearing in mind that I'm NOT a great DD player, very average. & yeah, I got Cossack B through the Fri 13 boxes
Cossack is a really really good DD when it comes to beging a nuisence for the enemy team. It has great concealment outspotting the oponents,some torps and good guns with strong HE and the short-duration smoke with hydro The worst part is the AA range and the general lack of AA dmg because of 2.5 km range which is basically air spotting range.Cossack even has problems to quickly shot down fighters
Cossack DPS is about the same as Kidd/Benson having higher alpha with slower reload. It has even worse ballistics than USN DD's, but nearly double the fire chance (8% vs 5%)
For ranked Kidd suits me much better than cossack. 1vs1 on full health cossack wins but add in ranked radars losing some of health for both and kidd's heal means kidd wins that fight mid/later game. Short smoke has some great uses but vs CV sticking fighters or bombers over you it's a problem compared to long smoke.
I think Akizuki is stronger. It has also great dpm, 30 mm pen, better shell travel time so you can hit DDs easier. Cossack is only better for playing the objektive. Only downside to Cossack 6 km concealment.
Cossack is also insanely maneuverable and quick. It feels like a speedboat, with very good turning and braking. Its turrets are quick too. There's really nothing to dislike about this ship.
Lightning has the same conceal as Cossack. You trade some extra dpm (1 extra turret with 5s reload instead of 4.5s for the lightning) for 1 torp launcher, but longer range and better reload on the torpedoes. And no, the Heal comes at T9 for the british destroyer. Lightning does not have it.
Also Lighting shells are slightly better, flight time to 12km is 9.7s for lightning, and 12s for Cossak, making it easier to land shots at the limit of your range.
Overall the Cossack is slightly better than the lightning for anything but torp alpha strike.
I love Lightning and cossack, Both are amazing
The difference in DPM is 20% so not a small amount.
dont forget the speed boost ... no tech tree ship gets it
Lightning is good ship , but have some flaws no base premium camo , and is not premoium = you cant train your main commander on it , I have played lighting few years back when I have grinded line , but cossack I played in ranked and she work there well .
You're out to lunch. Lightning is great, but Cossack is in a whole other league.
I really enjoy this ship for operations, that fast reload on the torps allows you to torp the battleships in the beginning of Narai and Raptor. It's so maneuverable that I don't mind taking a pot shot to get the guns aimed at me and off of my team for a few seconds so the bot keeps swapping targets and shell types and those guns just shred destroyers.
All of the Tribal class in game are insanely strong, both Haida and Huron are very strong T7 DDs. Cossack/Cossack B is an absolute monster. The fast smokes and hydro along with the gun power, for me, really reward aggressive play.
Even subs have to be terrified of this thing because it’s stealth and hydro means it can sneak up to subs and get on top of them with hydro, at which point, back to port you go.
An absolute favourite ship and I do have both Cossack and Cossack B.
I am only bothered that WG sell same ship , just in black camo and B letter TWICE , like they just could not new featurs to that ship -_-
As sub player, I second that. I run miles from this ship. Low detect, hydro and maneuver... everything sub hates
@@TheNefertitu Sub, the cancer of the WoWs. Wouldn't admit publicly I play that trash.
The whining is part of the fun. Ty
With the whole torpedoes not reloading till all are fired, you can just switch to them and hit F to start reloading without shooting all
True, but I'd rather send the torps downrange for a just in case hit anyways.
I have both Cossack and Cossack B. Very strong ships. I had it for years, then got "B" in a crate a few moths back. Strong contender for best DD at Tier.
B = Black ? 🙂
The Kidd was my "free" ship in the anniversary trade in. I was looking at the cossack last year so thanks for this video.
Cossack's strengths are obvious. The downsides are lack of a heal; weak AA, and low-velocity shells. With eight guns the ship is ridiculous against tiers 6 and 7 and generally strong against tiers 8 and 9. Because its hydro can be equipped/signaled to run for 4 minutes it's especially good against subs. The problems come from tier 10 and CVs. The 5-second reload isn't competitive against fast-firing high-tier DDs. You're forced into a stealth role in most T10 battles, able to fire only 4 torps every minute. Cossack is both frustrating and rewarding. I recommend it based on 275 battles experience.
The other thing to mention is that Cossack has a speedboost - which removes the being caught by other ships that can happen with mainline british dds....
Hey PQ love the content. I dont play much, but ironically when I do, I usually see you in game. Thanks for the victories and informative content.
Cheers.
It’s a great tier 8 DD! I got one in a Santa box 2 years ago. I really enjoy it! Thanks for the video. o7 PQ!
Cossack also gets both the British DD acceleration and an Engine Boost consumable. The tech tree British DDs don't have access to Engine Boost.
Cossack is one of my favorite DDs to play in operations.
What a lot of people don't comment on enough is the engines that a lot of the Royal Navy ships have.
The acceleration/decelleration is fantastic across all classes.
I have HMS Vanguard and her speed,accel/deccel and agility means I can play her like a cruiser, which I do. ;-)
The RN Destroyers also have excellent engines and can get themselves into and out of trouble very well.
🙂
Cossack and Haida are greatly fun stealth ships.
Ive been winning almost every game of ranked i play on my lightning, the british destroyers are beasts.
I think i would be very happy with the cossack.
I love RN DDs, they are so rewarding, really great for winning games.
The main British DD line does NOT get a heal until Tier 9.
The entire video I was sitting wondering have I lost my mind or do I have a glitched Lightning? Though at the same time still thinking Lightning is strong.
The single fire on the torps makes them much more effective, I get a surprising amount of torp damage with this ship.
My best Game considering spotting was with Shima. Smoked a random Mino around the Map and he went ham (~230k spotting) :D So sad to see CV getting these Numbers w/o even doing it on purpose
Cossack, Le Terrible, and Kidd are the top 3 T8 DDs. Different playstyles, all very powerful if played to their respective strengths.
Lots of strong T8 DDs tbh. Harekaze, Asashio, Orkan, Split, Loyang and Akizuki are also top contenders.
I personally think Harekaze and Split get the top spot, but no doubt Cossack is very strong. Le Terrible is great, but very vulnerable to CVs and it's not as strong as Mogador at its tier.
Kidd is strong, but I don't think it's as strong as some of the newer ships, such as Cossack.
@@Joshua-fi4ji what makes kidd the most utility ship is its long smoke duration, and action time, heavy aa, powerful guns, but most imoortantly, the strong heal. Heals single handedly make ot lopsidded since you can always take a trade and come back
Extremely strong. For ranked it may be the best dd. Great cap contester/ dd knife fighter. It also looses no speed when turning so can make full speed turns.
Historically WWII warships fought fire with foam or CO2 because lots of stuff on a ship has fires which water doesn't work well on (like fuel oil which floats), in that scenario you could easily have follow up HE blow away the flame retardant and relight the fire.
Picked it up today and went 5-0 in ranked immediately. First game I said "oh boy this one is good" about halfway through because it felt SO good to play. 10/10 ship.
I got the Cossack B last year and do well with her - don’t play her enough! And the short smokes don’t lull you into camping too long and eating a torp!
Hey PQ, when is a good time to use then longer duration smokes found on the other lines?
I got lucky with uncle same container, cossack drop, initially I have huron which was a reward I believe in a dockyard mission. comparison wise, huron have faster gun reload but concealment is at 6.2km while cossack has extra gun, conceal is at 5.5, along with a 10km torps, its nice creeping up to unsuspecting enemies XD
My go to ship in T8 ranked.
I've only bought 2 ships for real money- Cossack-B and the Okhotnik. Both are Outstanding.
Man, I remember getting this when it was released, pre CV rework. I thought it was the best gunboat dd in the game at the time. Then the carrier rework happened and this thing has no noticeable AA so I play it a lot less
I got enough tokens to buy one Black Friday premium container. Boom, Cossack B. Gonna be a good holiday container season
Just got mine from a Unsinkable sam mission container. British dds are best dd ever.
What do you think about z 39 and could you provide your gameplay please
When exactly is the black friday sale? And how long does it last
For a comparison, do Kidd next!
one of my all time favs
Cossack is great in ranked. I love that ship.
Cossack is hands down one of the absolute best t8 dds. It is so god damn versitile. Perfect for ranked. I have 70% winrate in that beast.
Yeah, love my Cossack. 10k torps helps against radar, even though you lose a rack.
I just got the ship and I like it but I was shooting a tier 9 bb in smoke shot 68 shells 54 didnt penatrate and I caused I think 3000k damage with no fires. Its almost like am I supposed to spot and thats it because the shells are doing nothing to other ships but give my general position away to the enemy.
Personally I believe the best gun boat dd at t8 is Kidd! Best AA , long smoke for farm or hide squishy cruisers of your team, and of course heal! With Fletcher level dpm...
Cossack is an absolute monster in t8 ranked.
Cossack is my main dd for ranked, it is great in almost every aspect though I do am eyeing Fenyang as it is almost similar in everything except torpedoes, smoke & concealment, much better velocity though.
Fenyang HE pens only 17mm and has deep water torps. I kind of like it but it’s a weird boat for sure. You can citadel some cruisers, that’s funny.
I have Cossack B, & it's very agile, to say the least. Not fast, which is a let-down, but agility is really good. Add Hydro, & captains' skill of RPF, & you're looking at a great DD-hunter.
Guns are decent enough, torps are ok, I guess, but limited arcs suck.
I'd rate Cosack at 7-8 out of 10? Bearing in mind that I'm NOT a great DD player, very average. & yeah, I got Cossack B through the Fri 13 boxes
I'm glad she's still so strong at this point in the game.
Cossack is a really really good DD when it comes to beging a nuisence for the enemy team.
It has great concealment outspotting the oponents,some torps and good guns with strong HE and the short-duration smoke with hydro
The worst part is the AA range and the general lack of AA dmg because of 2.5 km range which is basically air spotting range.Cossack even has problems to quickly shot down fighters
Nice thing about this is you don't have to turn off AA - if you're firing you're already spotted anyway...
My best Ship in game, the Original Cossack was almost Free 1$, the best buy ever
how do you get it?
Lighting(tier 8 tech tree) also has 5.5km concealment.
I'm torn between getting one of these or the Mainz B. I've seen a lot of Mainz in ranked this season and that thing is a PIB to deal with!
Mainz is very squishy and has no heal. If you like playing light cruisers go for it. I have both and play Cossack more
Shout out to Kidd, Cossack, and Akizuki for making me enjoy playing T8 DD back in the day 😂
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one of the best counter for Cossack is a smart CV player. but with no CV, its one of the best for offense and defense.
yes the best tier 8 dd in my opinion if not cossack then the kidd but very close
i think loyang is better than kid, loyang and cossack are the best t8 dds out there for ranked hands down
ah yes, the ship that allows me to solo carry ranked matches
Cossack DPS is about the same as Kidd/Benson having higher alpha with slower reload.
It has even worse ballistics than USN DD's, but nearly double the fire chance (8% vs 5%)
Can you play akizuki?
How did you pronounce Gneisenau? Sounded like you left out the G.. 🙂
Cossack is basically a free win in T8 ranked. Similar to the Jervis in T7.
How do you get the names, healthbars, and distance on your HUD? It must be simple, everyone has it. I'm too dumb to figure it out tho lol
Enter Settings-> HUD-> interface. I think is there. You have 3 modes: minimal, adaptative and complete
I am so lucky dayum i got the Cossack in a container haha
izumo izumo izumo!!!
Just about to grind her out, so would also like to see Izumo, seems to be a very misunderstood BB!
For ranked Kidd suits me much better than cossack. 1vs1 on full health cossack wins but add in ranked radars losing some of health for both and kidd's heal means kidd wins that fight mid/later game.
Short smoke has some great uses but vs CV sticking fighters or bombers over you it's a problem compared to long smoke.
Water and fuel don't mix dude so the fire will still be lit need foam or co2
I do like the Cossack, but I would note it has very weak AA.
did you just say that the concealment is much better that that of the Lightning? The Lightning's concealment is on par with that of the Cossack's
I think Akizuki is stronger. It has also great dpm, 30 mm pen, better shell travel time so you can hit DDs easier. Cossack is only better for playing the objektive. Only downside to Cossack 6 km concealment.
Cossack is far more nimble. Accelerates like a Mini Cooper S.
@@RasmusDyhrFrederiksen ok yeah it has that, too. but this still doesn't offset the 30 mm pen.
To me it is the best tier 8 DD. I got i for 1 EUR. Best investment ever :D
Perhaps is your favorite word isn’t it??
But a stealth build Lighting has the same 5.5
Short asnwwer is yes, it's the strngest tier 8vdd
Honestly it was quite busted right from the start. It's ridiculous in ranked.
She’s a good ship…
mainline doesnt have heal, heal starts on T9, cossack is sick OP compared to lightning ...
When there is radar, it's a different story. And every CV laughs about the aa....
The torpedos are not bad, but the reload is awfully slow.
what daring should be...
this lil dd is a Monster.
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Absolutely love the Cossack but teams are so bad and there's so many subs that even it isn't fun anymore
Hate this thing,Gadjah Mada is so superrior .No AA leaves fc up against CV.Any t8 DD eats this thing for breakfast.
Any ship looks good when the game is a blowout in your favor.
Hey all you builds don't factor subs in. Maybe it's time to sub builds on all the different types of ships.
Demo is such a waste of 2 points just a complete waste.
Please do the Weimar I love this ship