I think Ganon can have sympathetic REASONS without necessarily being sympathetic himself. Give him the "good intentions that set him down the road to hell" is what I'm saying. Anyway, thank you for making a statement on how to improve Ganon. He definitely deserves better. I personally think he should have "POV cutscenes" that take place from his POV instead of focusing on Link (or Zelda) all the time.
He should be written as Megatron from the Transformers franchise by having a humble background at first, only to become ruthless and powerhungry as time goes on and he leads the Gerudo into becoming a dominant tribe within the Zelda world until it turns him into a powerful warlord with his eyes set on remaking a chaotic world in his subjective perception of peace and perfection.
Dare I say it… What if Null was the overarching antagonist in the Era of the Wilds titles? On the surface, Ganondorf didn’t seem to have a motive for his actions in those games. He’s just so evil that his hatred and malice manifested into Calamity Ganon and persisted terrorizing Hyrule while in conscience stasis by Rauru’s seal. Shouldn’t Null fit the roll given it DID have a motive? Null could’ve been in the best position to constantly reign destruction upon Hyrule due to it being sealed by the Golden Goddesses after having its empty universe taken from it. For a villain like that, I feel like both Ganon and Null’s rolls in Breath/Tears and EOW respectively were flipped around…
@quillion3rdoption Then why didn’t Null just appear at any given point throughout the series? (And I don’t approve the excuse that “the Tris kept fixing rifts without a trace…”) All I know is if Nintendo wanted to write a convincing story, they’d have to disconnect it from the lore of past entries… That’s not to say Null is not interesting. The concept and backstory of Null is so interesting that why was this reserved for an entry of a series where summoning beds and tables can have an impact on its defeat? No Master Sword for the Goddesses to bless upon it. And the idea that the Golden Goddesses made the world of Hyrule solely to contain Null left me scratching my head… They contained Null… But they also endanger the lives of those living upon its prison? Sounds much like the immorality and instability of the gods of Greek and Roman mythologies… Overarching villain of the series or not… Good luck piecing it together in the timeline… Because I gave up connecting it. And I don’t want to associate any entry of the series with the continuity and mythology I stay tried and true to. However, the more I think about Null, the more I find it to be the Legend of Zelda equivalent to Kirby’s Void Termina. And while that series wasn’t always known for deep lore, there was a buildup to what was to come throughout the series.
Wind Waker Ganondorf REALLY sticks the landing, I think most people just misread him. He's older, yes, but he isn't wiser. He just seems so because he's calmer and less immediately violent in his ambitions. But compare how he describes his actions to his actual actions in Ocarina of Time. He's just justifying himself. He's had time to brood and stew in his rage and hatred and has re-written his own history to make himself look like the aggrieved party. But as soon as he is denied for a 3rd time, his mask breaks, and all he has is his rage, which causes him to lash out and try to murder children. Children, importantly, who didn't succeed in stopping him - it was the old King of Hyrule who did that. Upon losing, his justifications all went out the window, and all he had was that rage and hatred he always had, and the need to lash out against anything when denied what he believes he is owed.
I think Ganon can have sympathetic REASONS without necessarily being sympathetic himself. Give him the "good intentions that set him down the road to hell" is what I'm saying.
Anyway, thank you for making a statement on how to improve Ganon. He definitely deserves better. I personally think he should have "POV cutscenes" that take place from his POV instead of focusing on Link (or Zelda) all the time.
He should be written as Megatron from the Transformers franchise by having a humble background at first, only to become ruthless and powerhungry as time goes on and he leads the Gerudo into becoming a dominant tribe within the Zelda world until it turns him into a powerful warlord with his eyes set on remaking a chaotic world in his subjective perception of peace and perfection.
Dare I say it…
What if Null was the overarching antagonist in the Era of the Wilds titles?
On the surface, Ganondorf didn’t seem to have a motive for his actions in those games. He’s just so evil that his hatred and malice manifested into Calamity Ganon and persisted terrorizing Hyrule while in conscience stasis by Rauru’s seal. Shouldn’t Null fit the roll given it DID have a motive? Null could’ve been in the best position to constantly reign destruction upon Hyrule due to it being sealed by the Golden Goddesses after having its empty universe taken from it. For a villain like that, I feel like both Ganon and Null’s rolls in Breath/Tears and EOW respectively were flipped around…
Null's pretty much the overarching antagonist of the whole series already.
@quillion3rdoption
Then why didn’t Null just appear at any given point throughout the series? (And I don’t approve the excuse that “the Tris kept fixing rifts without a trace…”)
All I know is if Nintendo wanted to write a convincing story, they’d have to disconnect it from the lore of past entries… That’s not to say Null is not interesting. The concept and backstory of Null is so interesting that why was this reserved for an entry of a series where summoning beds and tables can have an impact on its defeat? No Master Sword for the Goddesses to bless upon it. And the idea that the Golden Goddesses made the world of Hyrule solely to contain Null left me scratching my head… They contained Null… But they also endanger the lives of those living upon its prison? Sounds much like the immorality and instability of the gods of Greek and Roman mythologies…
Overarching villain of the series or not…
Good luck piecing it together in the timeline… Because I gave up connecting it. And I don’t want to associate any entry of the series with the continuity and mythology I stay tried and true to.
However, the more I think about Null, the more I find it to be the Legend of Zelda equivalent to Kirby’s Void Termina. And while that series wasn’t always known for deep lore, there was a buildup to what was to come throughout the series.
Wind Waker Ganondorf REALLY sticks the landing, I think most people just misread him. He's older, yes, but he isn't wiser. He just seems so because he's calmer and less immediately violent in his ambitions.
But compare how he describes his actions to his actual actions in Ocarina of Time. He's just justifying himself. He's had time to brood and stew in his rage and hatred and has re-written his own history to make himself look like the aggrieved party.
But as soon as he is denied for a 3rd time, his mask breaks, and all he has is his rage, which causes him to lash out and try to murder children. Children, importantly, who didn't succeed in stopping him - it was the old King of Hyrule who did that.
Upon losing, his justifications all went out the window, and all he had was that rage and hatred he always had, and the need to lash out against anything when denied what he believes he is owed.