All of Leto's choices are to delay the creation of the self replicating, prescient hunter seekers that would have ended humanity on a universal scale. By preventing space travel except by his words, he limited any form of war or infighting that would have both boosted tech growth and incentivized the Ixians into researching more powerful hunter seekers. He also let the Ixians grow wealthy and complacent with his money so they had no reason to go against him by developing these systems. If they are making insane amounts of money making iPhones they aren't going to go waste time with weapons R&D especially if it risks their iPhone market. This was all a stalling tactic to buy the breeding program time to create someone immune to prescience so they could add this camouflage gene into humanity. His actions would also cause the research into ships that weren't spice dependent and a large number of stifled explorers that were biting at the bit to go out into the universe.
I only read the first 2, but I still know what happens after them. You don't need to know the books to know the lore these days, I even know some of Brian's lore as well. Quinn's ideas is a good channel for Dune lore for instance. You don't need the books to know that the true protagonist all along was Duncan Idaho.
Evil Sex Witches with magic vaginas is when I bailed out. Things start getting very UnHerbertish after the 4th book. Other than it's still my all time favorite book series. My 16yr old sons middle name is LETO 🤣
Yeah, don't chaperhouse dune and heretics of Dune jump ahead a massive amount? Like , way past the scattering. It's like the first 4 are a complete story, and then there's the sequel, and then the brian books are cash grab, or so it seems, haven't read them.
@@AliceBowie I think the main story arc ending with God Emperor and the Scattering - with the Scattering being the whole point of what happens after Dune Messiah - would be a good place to end the saga on screen. Not sure we’ll get that far tho.
Leto ii was the foil to Paul. Paul was a heroic character, a charismatic leader and ultimately a villain, using others to further his own goals. Leto ii was a monstrosity, a tyrant, and sacrificed his very humanity for the survival of mankind.
Idk.. Paul wasn't this evil self serving opposite to selfless Leto 2. He also marched to the beat of the same Golden Path. Just like Leto 2, he also was a tyrant who felt he was doing it for the greater good. Although perhaps much less willingly, and gave the feeling of being trapped to the golden path. And it was only until after the birth of his children, and him walking into the desert, did he try and unwind the golden path his Son set on to ensure the survival of mankind. And his reasons for trying to unwind is cause.. its horrible in all scenerios I think.
@@sollertiskhan3254 Paul wasn't evil. But he was much more self serving than Leto 2. He tried to divert when he could, but ultimately wasn't willing to die to prevent the Jihad. And once he had power he wasn't willing to turn himself into the God Emperor to fulfil the golden path. He was surprised that his son was willing to do it, there was a conversation about this in children of dune. But he wasn't evil, he was HUMAN, with the instincts and limitations that brings.
@@anonperson3972 I know I've read Cod. But most of his actions, were marching TOWARDS the golden path, not self serving. Most of his actions mirror his sons, a tyrant doing terrible things for this mysterious greater good. That was most of his time. And although yes, he ultimately tried to stepa way from the golden path and unwind it- that cannot be called selfish. He could not chose between the horrors of two paths and chose the lesser evil. So yes, he's more human, less fremen than his son. But its not an opposing foil imo.
The God Emperor chose to not know how he died. He wanted it to be a surprise. He also wanted to create a future that wasn't deterministic. He was so bored of being able to predict every little thing. One thing not talked about the books is how much sex they have. There is so much sex in the books, I would venture to say that sex is a central theme of the Dune books.
I don't remember any sex scenes in the books, just the implications of a bit. This video even says that Leto lost his penis. When was the sex? I only read the first 4 books.
Leto knowingly takes the role of the bad guy so humanity will survive. Because he's the hero we deserve, but not the one we need...or maybe the one we need and the one we deserve..I don't know. Either way, he's a tyrant and people hate him because he wanted it.
Love how symbolic Herbert's writing is As the bene giserit are analogous to the power of motherhood The voice is the voice of a mother which can topple kingdoms as sons and daughters will be influenced by their mothers The ancestors possession is the pressure of family that will always try and fulfill the goals of parents and family That are ancestors live on through us Their goals ingrained in our identity
Dewd ! I was thinking something along those lines these past few days, while listening to Dune books' commentaries. Prior to seeing Dune I & II there is this book I was reading: Karma by Sadhguru. In it, among other interesting things he tells us how karma is like memory imprinted on a non-physical drive which survives death of the body-mind and then waits in limbo(not his words, mine) for another moment of conception between two partners that have the similar affinities as its own (since we cannot speak of a gender yet). Besides this, not sure if it is from the same book, or even spiritual tradition, I remember reading somewhere that these tendencies that are repeated habits, recurring thoughts & emotions are ingrained in our genetic(but not just the DNA) memory -which would be better called ancestral memory. These patterns of acting, reacting and physiology are easily triggerable and can surface, especially since we spend so much time our our early, formative life with those who will teach us -not only by their words and advice, punishes and rewards- but by their very behavior which we mimic before our discernment is formed. These habitual behaviors become more and more prevalent in our lives as we get older thus we get more conditioned to our cultural and genetic heritage. The key to not becoming our parents/grandparents/uncles/aunts/older cousins is becoming more aware of our impulses and unconscious tendencies as well as the social and cultural conditioning. As the author put it "distancing ourselves from our karma" That's how I view the ancestral possession as getting too under the influence of our in-built programs, sort of like you start running on automatic.
Also in Sadhguru's book are presented some curious ideas, like how one conciousness can simulaneaosly inhabit 2 bodies at the same time or how 2 "souls" can inhabit the same body and burn two types of karma. I'm not saying this sort of things are easily believable, however if we suspend our disbelief like when reading/watching a piece of fiction then it is worth considering how we are more than meets the eye and that what is presented as fiction may very well be plausible though not for your average Joe.
@@user-zg3gh8xg9v I don't see anything wrong with becoming those things, it's just not making mistake while being those things. See wrongdoings and make it to not do. Many things and habits are positive, trying to distancing from it and from karma is also a form of abomination.
@@user-zg3gh8xg9v wow that's fucking interesting Never thought it like that but there's obviously some truth to it Then again does genetic memory even need to exist for us to just mimic our parents More simply , monkey see monkey do Especially before we become our own person But it also , begs the question if we can ever truly become our own person , at all??? Maybe we are just almalgamations of our ancestors bc are parents are almagamations of theirs?? Not sure distancing even changes anything. As maybe , our behavior can change from our parents and ancestors bc of the other people that influence in our lifetime. Not sure if that's karma memory or genetic memory but it seems very simple And the book dune influenced me a lot ... in many ways as much as my parents
At 14min the OP talks about shroom trips, he couldn't be closer to the truth that Herbert was describing. The spice are spores, the water of life is what happens when certain shrooms are soaked in water and then drank, and the mind expands with "the beauty and the horror" of the trip. Certain shrooms are said to connect you with your ancestors and other spirits that travelled beyond and sometimes to something higher still.
Here we see why making a movie past Dune Messiah or maybe even Children of Dune is nearly impossible without it looking ridiculous. The novels are awesome but they're damn hard to turn into a movie. Honestly, I'm down with Children of Dune and God Emperor of Dune all the way through Heretics and Chapterhouse being T.V. series
Falso , puedes hacer que el la película de leto todo lo que pasó en dune aparezca observado por el , así como con Eren Jagger son similares y no se verá tonto
The sandworms didn't attack Leto because they recognized sand-trout, not because they saw him as one of their own. Sand-trout surround bodies of water which would mean the death of a sandworm so they leave Leto alone. If the sandworms saw him as "one of their own", they would have attacked Leto as sandworms are very territorial.
A most excellent video my friend, but a bit of constructive criticism as there will always be fans who hang on your every word… It is House Corrino, not Corneo, Laza tigers, not laser tigers, qanats, not quants, etc… It is clear that you have a maximal understanding of the source material, just a rushed remembrance of pronunciation… Take it for what it’s worth, I bring this up as a friend, and a fan of the source material… I’ve given a like and a subscription! Good luck!
yup also the required remote 'kill switch' for all cars government would have control of. Starts with that, then approved travel and distances then less and less travel allowed etc.
honestly of all the characters in dune Leto the 2 truly has gone through a lot from without question sticking to the golden path for 3,500 years straight truly hands down until the bitter end And also Leto the 2 is truly a tragic character as whole well it's like that old saying goes you either die a hero or live enough to see yourself become the villain and also Leto the 2 and eren truly share so many similarities from with each other but all in all great video continue to make more dune video's and can you make a video on dune the butlerian jihad
Agreed, but ? Lazarus effect and the Jesus incident are just as crazy for prequels of the machine uprising. God Emporer and especially Heretics was excruciating long..I've never been impressed by any Dune movie they are improving but lacking. Just wish they stop the comparison of spice to mushrooms
I listened to the Children of Dune last night and discovered why Leto chose to become the God Empire: because his aunt’s activation of immorality would have made her hated but not in a way that would have left the correct bad taste in humanity’s mouth.
Not exactly. The God Emperor spent thousands of years breeding the ability to be invisible to presence. Preventing humanity from being manipulated by those with visions.
It was much more than that. But I disagree that it would not left the correct bad taste in humanity's mouth. Leto was a hero, so was Paul, no matter what Frank says. And that is not me ''not understanding'', I just hate hypocrites who are themselves writing books and never practicing what they preach like Frank Herbert was.
@@SenatePalpatinetrolleryou'll probably get hate for this, but I agree with you. If you read the 6 Frank books, the end results of Leto's Golden Path justify his tyranny and brutality. Frank made Paul spout off about Hitler in Messiah to force comparisons, but even Paul eventually comes to regret his actions and realize Leto was gonna do what he never could, even if it meant untold suffering. The moral essentially comes off as "sometimes, leaders become tyrants and brutal for ulterior, utilitarian motives" rather than "be wary of heroes, leaders, and messiahs"
honestly before i watch this video i want to say something about leto ii... the god emporor, when i read that book it made me extreamly sad- honestly, i see people scoff at this book and call it weird but tbh i just really put myself in the shoes or should i say... ok idk what to say- and i just feel terrible for leto- it was his choice to become that way yet his love became his downfall-
4:41 i love this picture of Alia, but it kind of sends shivers down my spine. I really agree with the depiction of literal glowing blue smoke coming out of the eyes during a spice trace, really underlines the intensity of the experience
The God Emperor, in my perspective, is one of my grand favorites. Even being a villain means to have a purpose against something bigger and evil than themselves. Someone who has changed the form of power between physically, mentally and spiritually. With all the power villains like the God Emperor possess they could do anything they see moral and fair, however the price of gaining supreme control within an entire universal scale of inhabitants would encounter such extreme peril to either himself, the people they serve him, or the lives he protects becomes his enemies. I see him as my own imaginative perspective of spiritual symbolism of doing something quite similar, aside from making tyrannical business, in a form like the Xenomorph Queen. Her looks may be terrifying, yet like any living thing she has survival tactics like a hive of wasps. Terribly misunderstood organisms, made by alien's advanced weaponry to do horrific things they see no other way in order to survive, exactly how wasps paralyzes their prey only to be devoured alive by its larvae. Nature can be cruel as part of it is fair, it is how it made us. To do terrible things for the greater good, or making a choice to do something selfless to avoid terrible business.
Paul was supposed to be the girl who would mother the Qwisatz Haderach. Tho he was born a Qwizatz Haderach himself thus starting the golden path a generation early he eventually did parent a qwisatz haderach who would finish the mission of the bene gesserit.
I think Frank Herbert was experimenting with weed when he wrote Dune. But by the time he got to God Emperor he obviously moved on to shrooms. And Messiah, it made me want to fall on my crysknife.
Right out of the gate, I don't know how you got this backward, but it was Ghanima that Paul did not foresee. He only saw Leto. That is why he named her Ghanima. It means "spoil of war". She was an unexpected, unlooked for, gift. I really don't understand how you could get that mixed up.
Yet they never did. Which means they were scared of same scenario of repeat of Butlerian Jihad. It's impossible to control those type of entities, whether they are biological or whether they are artificial, once being becomes fully self aware and sentient, it's impossible to be controlled.
Only just found this channel (I follow abd) I'm ecstatic dune is my fave sci fi series and second over all series. Anime is my other passion! Take my money!!!
To call a God "a monster" is redundent, since there is no basis on which states what a God is supposed to look like. We humans assume Gods would look like us because we have nothing else to draw information from. God could look like the actual Giant Spaghetti Monster for all we know.
Kind of a bummer that you’re commenting on a book that was written with the premise that AI/“thinking machines” are dangerous, and yet this whole video is riddled with AI art. Please remember that those AI programs were created by stealing from & learning without the consent of the artists whose works were used to train them.
the ai generated images in your video are both cool and funny... like legit the sandworms are small enough for children to ride- LMFAOOO they also look like giant tape worms like in that one comercial for dog treatment of worms and fleas-
The "Golden Path" was made clear in the first paragraph of the first page of this book....The infinite existence of humanity. Your content is interesting but fouled.
Mispronounces her name as "Cheney"; later switches to the correct "Chani" while summarizing the hot mess that is all of Herbert's post-DUNE Dune novels. I mean, DUNE is the sh-t, but all the later iterations are IMHO disappointing, convoluted contrived BS. And why use the current cinematic Dune's Paul actor when he SUCKS?
Just another of countless YT channels trying to capitalize on a nearly 60 year old novel series. Please find your own angle bro, you're not going to get anywhere on making YT videos on HEAVILY covered points. 😂
A political leader becomes a literal immortal monsters inherited memory of millions and visions of the far future uses borderline AI that destroyed humanity 10k years ago in their time to free humanity. I see a messiah complex here. There’s no individuality in this story everybody but a pawn in the grand scheme. The only person with some individuality is a duplicate of his original self, a nth duplicate of himself who doesn’t even know if his memory forms by this iteration or the past inheritance
Lol As a non native English speaker I used to say the same. If you listen to his broken English, you should understand he is not a native English speaker. But it's good that you point out and say the correct word :)
All of Leto's choices are to delay the creation of the self replicating, prescient hunter seekers that would have ended humanity on a universal scale. By preventing space travel except by his words, he limited any form of war or infighting that would have both boosted tech growth and incentivized the Ixians into researching more powerful hunter seekers. He also let the Ixians grow wealthy and complacent with his money so they had no reason to go against him by developing these systems. If they are making insane amounts of money making iPhones they aren't going to go waste time with weapons R&D especially if it risks their iPhone market.
This was all a stalling tactic to buy the breeding program time to create someone immune to prescience so they could add this camouflage gene into humanity. His actions would also cause the research into ships that weren't spice dependent and a large number of stifled explorers that were biting at the bit to go out into the universe.
Excellent explanation bro thank you, the golden path was always a little difficult for me to grasp.
What in the actual fuck are you talking about?
Wait what, where did you get all those infos (I am really interested)
For those people who watched the two movies, but didn’t read the books, it gets really weird from here. 😂😂
I only read the first 2, but I still know what happens after them. You don't need to know the books to know the lore these days, I even know some of Brian's lore as well. Quinn's ideas is a good channel for Dune lore for instance. You don't need the books to know that the true protagonist all along was Duncan Idaho.
Evil Sex Witches with magic vaginas is when I bailed out.
Things start getting very UnHerbertish after the 4th book.
Other than it's still my all time favorite book series.
My 16yr old sons middle name is LETO 🤣
Yeah, don't chaperhouse dune and heretics of Dune jump ahead a massive amount? Like , way past the scattering. It's like the first 4 are a complete story, and then there's the sequel, and then the brian books are cash grab, or so it seems, haven't read them.
The powweeer ooof maaaaaanyyyyy! 🥶
@@AliceBowie I think the main story arc ending with God Emperor and the Scattering - with the Scattering being the whole point of what happens after Dune Messiah - would be a good place to end the saga on screen. Not sure we’ll get that far tho.
Leto ii was the foil to Paul. Paul was a heroic character, a charismatic leader and ultimately a villain, using others to further his own goals. Leto ii was a monstrosity, a tyrant, and sacrificed his very humanity for the survival of mankind.
Idk.. Paul wasn't this evil self serving opposite to selfless Leto 2. He also marched to the beat of the same Golden Path. Just like Leto 2, he also was a tyrant who felt he was doing it for the greater good. Although perhaps much less willingly, and gave the feeling of being trapped to the golden path.
And it was only until after the birth of his children, and him walking into the desert, did he try and unwind the golden path his Son set on to ensure the survival of mankind. And his reasons for trying to unwind is cause.. its horrible in all scenerios I think.
@@sollertiskhan3254 Paul wasn't evil. But he was much more self serving than Leto 2. He tried to divert when he could, but ultimately wasn't willing to die to prevent the Jihad. And once he had power he wasn't willing to turn himself into the God Emperor to fulfil the golden path. He was surprised that his son was willing to do it, there was a conversation about this in children of dune. But he wasn't evil, he was HUMAN, with the instincts and limitations that brings.
@@anonperson3972 I know I've read Cod. But most of his actions, were marching TOWARDS the golden path, not self serving. Most of his actions mirror his sons, a tyrant doing terrible things for this mysterious greater good. That was most of his time.
And although yes, he ultimately tried to stepa way from the golden path and unwind it- that cannot be called selfish. He could not chose between the horrors of two paths and chose the lesser evil.
So yes, he's more human, less fremen than his son. But its not an opposing foil imo.
The God Emperor chose to not know how he died. He wanted it to be a surprise. He also wanted to create a future that wasn't deterministic. He was so bored of being able to predict every little thing. One thing not talked about the books is how much sex they have. There is so much sex in the books, I would venture to say that sex is a central theme of the Dune books.
I don't remember any sex scenes in the books, just the implications of a bit. This video even says that Leto lost his penis. When was the sex? I only read the first 4 books.
@robgronotte1 it's not explicit, but the whole gist of the story is selective breeding by one party or another.
Leto knowingly takes the role of the bad guy so humanity will survive. Because he's the hero we deserve, but not the one we need...or maybe the one we need and the one we deserve..I don't know. Either way, he's a tyrant and people hate him because he wanted it.
He became what we needed him to become. Someone whom we can hate. Who made sure that humanity would never accept being chained up again.
Love how symbolic Herbert's writing is
As the bene giserit are analogous to the power of motherhood
The voice is the voice of a mother which can topple kingdoms as sons and daughters will be influenced by their mothers
The ancestors possession is the pressure of family that will always try and fulfill the goals of parents and family
That are ancestors live on through us
Their goals ingrained in our identity
But Frank was also a huge narcissistic hypocrite too. He himself was charismatic and was never practicing what he preached.
Dewd ! I was thinking something along those lines these past few days, while listening to Dune books' commentaries. Prior to seeing Dune I & II there is this book I was reading: Karma by Sadhguru. In it, among other interesting things he tells us how karma is like memory imprinted on a non-physical drive which survives death of the body-mind and then waits in limbo(not his words, mine) for another moment of conception between two partners that have the similar affinities as its own (since we cannot speak of a gender yet). Besides this, not sure if it is from the same book, or even spiritual tradition, I remember reading somewhere that these tendencies that are repeated habits, recurring thoughts & emotions are ingrained in our genetic(but not just the DNA) memory -which would be better called ancestral memory. These patterns of acting, reacting and physiology are easily triggerable and can surface, especially since we spend so much time our our early, formative life with those who will teach us -not only by their words and advice, punishes and rewards- but by their very behavior which we mimic before our discernment is formed. These habitual behaviors become more and more prevalent in our lives as we get older thus we get more conditioned to our cultural and genetic heritage.
The key to not becoming our parents/grandparents/uncles/aunts/older cousins is becoming more aware of our impulses and unconscious tendencies as well as the social and cultural conditioning. As the author put it "distancing ourselves from our karma" That's how I view the ancestral possession as getting too under the influence of our in-built programs, sort of like you start running on automatic.
Also in Sadhguru's book are presented some curious ideas, like how one conciousness can simulaneaosly inhabit 2 bodies at the same time or how 2 "souls" can inhabit the same body and burn two types of karma. I'm not saying this sort of things are easily believable, however if we suspend our disbelief like when reading/watching a piece of fiction then it is worth considering how we are more than meets the eye and that what is presented as fiction may very well be plausible though not for your average Joe.
@@user-zg3gh8xg9v I don't see anything wrong with becoming those things, it's just not making mistake while being those things. See wrongdoings and make it to not do. Many things and habits are positive, trying to distancing from it and from karma is also a form of abomination.
@@user-zg3gh8xg9v wow that's fucking interesting
Never thought it like that but there's obviously some truth to it
Then again does genetic memory even need to exist for us to just mimic our parents
More simply , monkey see monkey do
Especially before we become our own person
But it also , begs the question if we can ever truly become our own person , at all???
Maybe we are just almalgamations of our ancestors bc are parents are almagamations of theirs??
Not sure distancing even changes anything.
As maybe , our behavior can change from our parents and ancestors bc of the other people that influence in our lifetime.
Not sure if that's karma memory or genetic memory but it seems very simple
And the book dune influenced me a lot ... in many ways as much as my parents
At 14min the OP talks about shroom trips, he couldn't be closer to the truth that Herbert was describing. The spice are spores, the water of life is what happens when certain shrooms are soaked in water and then drank, and the mind expands with "the beauty and the horror" of the trip. Certain shrooms are said to connect you with your ancestors and other spirits that travelled beyond and sometimes to something higher still.
it rages for 30 minutes then total comfort. definitely like a shroom trip. my water turned dark blue
Here we see why making a movie past Dune Messiah or maybe even Children of Dune is nearly impossible without it looking ridiculous. The novels are awesome but they're damn hard to turn into a movie.
Honestly, I'm down with Children of Dune and God Emperor of Dune all the way through Heretics and Chapterhouse being T.V. series
Falso , puedes hacer que el la película de leto todo lo que pasó en dune aparezca observado por el , así como con Eren Jagger son similares y no se verá tonto
Thank you for going balls deep into Emperor Wurm Leto.
It took him over 1000 years to become the worm, if I recall correctly. A lot of time passed between Children of Dune and God Emperor of Dune.
About 4k years, but iirc he was mostly worm before hitting the 1k mark.
The sandworms didn't attack Leto because they recognized sand-trout, not because they saw him as one of their own. Sand-trout surround bodies of water which would mean the death of a sandworm so they leave Leto alone. If the sandworms saw him as "one of their own", they would have attacked Leto as sandworms are very territorial.
A most excellent video my friend, but a bit of constructive criticism as there will always be fans who hang on your every word… It is House Corrino, not Corneo, Laza tigers, not laser tigers, qanats, not quants, etc… It is clear that you have a maximal understanding of the source material, just a rushed remembrance of pronunciation… Take it for what it’s worth, I bring this up as a friend, and a fan of the source material… I’ve given a like and a subscription! Good luck!
Wow this gives me a whole new outlook of those 15 minute cities they want us to live in. It’s easier to control walkers
yup also the required remote 'kill switch' for all cars government would have control of. Starts with that, then approved travel and distances then less and less travel allowed etc.
honestly of all the
characters in dune
Leto the 2 truly has
gone through a lot
from without question
sticking to the
golden path for
3,500 years
straight truly
hands down
until the bitter end
And also Leto the 2
is truly a tragic
character
as whole
well it's like that
old saying goes
you either die
a hero or live
enough to
see yourself
become the villain
and also Leto the 2 and eren
truly share so many
similarities from
with each other
but all in all
great video
continue to
make more
dune video's
and can you make
a video on dune
the butlerian jihad
The "Common" folk aren't ready for the REAL Dune...🤣
Yeah for me it ends at messiah sorry lol
@@bennycostello2472 lol, no worries! 🤣
True
I bet they will never adapt the Leto stories, not without cutting the chunk of the novels into a quarter
Agreed, but ? Lazarus effect and the Jesus incident are just as crazy for prequels of the machine uprising. God Emporer and especially Heretics was excruciating long..I've never been impressed by any Dune movie they are improving but lacking. Just wish they stop the comparison of spice to mushrooms
I listened to the Children of Dune last night and discovered why Leto chose to become the God Empire: because his aunt’s activation of immorality would have made her hated but not in a way that would have left the correct bad taste in humanity’s mouth.
Leto also did this the out the BG plan to have him marry his sister and have a child w/her.
Not exactly. The God Emperor spent thousands of years breeding the ability to be invisible to presence. Preventing humanity from being manipulated by those with visions.
It was much more than that. But I disagree that it would not left the correct bad taste in humanity's mouth. Leto was a hero, so was Paul, no matter what Frank says. And that is not me ''not understanding'', I just hate hypocrites who are themselves writing books and never practicing what they preach like Frank Herbert was.
@@SenatePalpatinetrolleryou'll probably get hate for this, but I agree with you. If you read the 6 Frank books, the end results of Leto's Golden Path justify his tyranny and brutality. Frank made Paul spout off about Hitler in Messiah to force comparisons, but even Paul eventually comes to regret his actions and realize Leto was gonna do what he never could, even if it meant untold suffering. The moral essentially comes off as "sometimes, leaders become tyrants and brutal for ulterior, utilitarian motives" rather than "be wary of heroes, leaders, and messiahs"
@@SenatePalpatinetroller😂 no.
I had actually forgotten how batshit insane that book was.
honestly before i watch this video i want to say something about leto ii... the god emporor, when i read that book it made me extreamly sad- honestly, i see people scoff at this book and call it weird but tbh i just really put myself in the shoes or should i say... ok idk what to say- and i just feel terrible for leto- it was his choice to become that way yet his love became his downfall-
I've read all 6 books but I'm still not sure why Leto didn't destroy the Bene Gesserit...
Leto said on GEoD that the BG were the closest he needed humanity to be.
He needed them reformed, as not the worst party if they stopped trying to control the universe?
Weren't they part of what was needed to fight and/or join the Honoured Matres?
The AI art throughout this is painful at times. Those six-fingered hands...
4:41 i love this picture of Alia, but it kind of sends shivers down my spine. I really agree with the depiction of literal glowing blue smoke coming out of the eyes during a spice trace, really underlines the intensity of the experience
Ghanima was the one that he didn't expect, hence the meaning of her name. He could see through his sons eyes..
Incorrect. He knew Ghanima would be born, he was completely surprised by his son.
honestly how the hell is this going to be turned into a movie, its too weird IDK?
It is not. They will stop at Dune Mesiah (the second book).
I know it didnt happen, but i think mcavoy could have pulled it off with his charisma.
And animated if its still done, just animate it ok.
The ultimate "ends justify the means".
That jjk short clip was very cruel and very well utilized
The God Emperor, in my perspective, is one of my grand favorites. Even being a villain means to have a purpose against something bigger and evil than themselves. Someone who has changed the form of power between physically, mentally and spiritually. With all the power villains like the God Emperor possess they could do anything they see moral and fair, however the price of gaining supreme control within an entire universal scale of inhabitants would encounter such extreme peril to either himself, the people they serve him, or the lives he protects becomes his enemies.
I see him as my own imaginative perspective of spiritual symbolism of doing something quite similar, aside from making tyrannical business, in a form like the Xenomorph Queen. Her looks may be terrifying, yet like any living thing she has survival tactics like a hive of wasps. Terribly misunderstood organisms, made by alien's advanced weaponry to do horrific things they see no other way in order to survive, exactly how wasps paralyzes their prey only to be devoured alive by its larvae. Nature can be cruel as part of it is fair, it is how it made us. To do terrible things for the greater good, or making a choice to do something selfless to avoid terrible business.
So the ultimate solution was that they'd All need to know PAIN. Then only were True Peace attained.
Love the anime channel didn’t know there was a movies
Who would have known that Leto ii was played by James McAvoy in a Dune series called sons of dune back 2003 🤯 !!!!!!!!
Those that saw it.
Paul was supposed to be the girl who would mother the Qwisatz Haderach. Tho he was born a Qwizatz Haderach himself thus starting the golden path a generation early he eventually did parent a qwisatz haderach who would finish the mission of the bene gesserit.
Now I know why I will never be God Emperor. After my shower I use Lynx - not old Spice.
Thanks for the video
wonderful analysis!
Makes you realize where the story of eren Yeager in attack on titan comes from
As his final form is very wyrm like
It was actually heavily lifted. Golden path being Eren and the rumbling.
Dune: Messiahs are bad!
Fank Herbert "fans": I wish we had a Paul (or Leto II) Atreides!
I think Frank Herbert was experimenting with weed when he wrote Dune. But by the time he got to God Emperor he obviously moved on to shrooms. And Messiah, it made me want to fall on my crysknife.
This is a really good video! Channel needs to get more views now :)
Right out of the gate, I don't know how you got this backward, but it was Ghanima that Paul did not foresee. He only saw Leto. That is why he named her Ghanima. It means "spoil of war". She was an unexpected, unlooked for, gift. I really don't understand how you could get that mixed up.
Puke have sworn he had it right in this video. I’ll have to find my copy of Messiah.
The Ixians and Tleilaxu could have made a better version.
Yet they never did. Which means they were scared of same scenario of repeat of Butlerian Jihad. It's impossible to control those type of entities, whether they are biological or whether they are artificial, once being becomes fully self aware and sentient, it's impossible to be controlled.
@@SenatePalpatinetroller
True. Life, whether biological or mechanical, uhh, finds a way.
Leto the 2nd not by namesake but Paul's 1st son Leto 1was killed by Harkonin. Paul was blind and used prescience to walk his path.
This was a great explanation
Only just found this channel (I follow abd) I'm ecstatic dune is my fave sci fi series and second over all series. Anime is my other passion! Take my money!!!
25:00 is insane 😂😂😂
Thats the least freaky thing in this series. Letos fishspeakers have an orgy every year for him
To call a God "a monster" is redundent, since there is no basis on which states what a God is supposed to look like. We humans assume Gods would look like us because we have nothing else to draw information from. God could look like the actual Giant Spaghetti Monster for all we know.
Humanity was made in the image of God, so any god that does not look like humans would be a monster
Didn’t know Dck Cheney was Paul’s wife …
Dude is missing the forest for the trees the whole premise of dune is to realize the ends dont always justify the means lol
Twas Beauty that killed the Beast.
you used Jessica's image a few times for Alea
Like waves in a shroom trip huh?😂
i loved the book but i thought it was just a bit too much how he just turned into a whole ass worm. could have just had the scales over his body
Bro there's no principle of equivalent exchange in Dune. That's "Fullmetal Alchemist".
Thumbnail....is that Snoke on the right ?
Kind of a bummer that you’re commenting on a book that was written with the premise that AI/“thinking machines” are dangerous, and yet this whole video is riddled with AI art. Please remember that those AI programs were created by stealing from & learning without the consent of the artists whose works were used to train them.
Very Meta!!! 🤯
the ai generated images in your video are both cool and funny... like legit the sandworms are small enough for children to ride- LMFAOOO they also look like giant tape worms like in that one comercial for dog treatment of worms and fleas-
Didn’t know Dick Cheney was Paul’s wife
It isn't "Cornio" - it's "Corrino"
Why do you keep on show pics of Paul's mother, when referring to ALIA?
Holy AI art Batman…
Star wars all over again
Spoiler alert aaaaarrrrgh
13:04 BRUH
Duncan is the ultimate kwisatz haderach
20:40 G.O.T. ?🤨
The "Golden Path" was made clear in the first paragraph of the first page of this book....The infinite existence of humanity. Your content is interesting but fouled.
Good videos but too bad it uses a lot of ai images. There are plenty of artists who has made dune fanart
Tried to get through this video twice, but the AI art is disgusting. Won't come back.
Hey man, showing off Putin as an example pf how the Soviets were bad probably isn't making the point that you think it is
Did the truth hurt you?
@@Error_5383lol no it's because Putin is a dictator capitalist.
Stop using Ai
Very Meta thats what Dune is about!!! 🤯
I would stop at being blue. The last transformation looks like female part
By extreme fundamentalism in "many different religions" you really mean one religion. Islam.
Aaaaaaachtuallly there are extremists in every religion, even Buddhism
Don't need the stupid damn noise every time a word pops up
eren yeager copy cat ahh
after dune messhia the story isnt interesting
Mispronounces her name as "Cheney"; later switches to the correct "Chani" while summarizing the hot mess that is all of Herbert's post-DUNE Dune novels. I mean, DUNE is the sh-t, but all the later iterations are IMHO disappointing, convoluted contrived BS. And why use the current cinematic Dune's Paul actor when he SUCKS?
I’m fairly certain “Cheney” was the intended pronunciation by Herbert.
Later Dune is very dumb.
W vid
Just another of countless YT channels trying to capitalize on a nearly 60 year old novel series. Please find your own angle bro, you're not going to get anywhere on making YT videos on HEAVILY covered points. 😂
A political leader becomes a literal immortal monsters inherited memory of millions and visions of the far future uses borderline AI that destroyed humanity 10k years ago in their time to free humanity. I see a messiah complex here. There’s no individuality in this story everybody but a pawn in the grand scheme. The only person with some individuality is a duplicate of his original self, a nth duplicate of himself who doesn’t even know if his memory forms by this iteration or the past inheritance
26:03 goku 😂😂 !!
Eerrr...gross. Yuk😳🤯🥺🤢🤮😭😱
LET'S GOOOOOO
Juvenile.
What a joke - believing in the omniscience of royalty - these books are for lemmings.
Your use of ai is weird, but cool I guess….
It's scapegoat not escape goat
Lol
As a non native English speaker I used to say the same.
If you listen to his broken English, you should understand he is not a native English speaker.
But it's good that you point out and say the correct word :)
Now I realize that I also have prescience and has been getting away from various future events for years.