God Emperor Leto: The Most Terrifying Character in Dune! The Golden Path Good or Evil? | Entire Lore
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- Опубліковано 2 тра 2024
- Frank Herbert's Dune books have been adapted into Dune Part 2 the movie
but the story of Paul is just a prelude to his Son's story. In this video I explore Leto II’s evolution from his mysterious origins to his awe-inspiring reign as the God Emperor. Discover the complete saga of Paul Atreides' enigmatic son across the third and fourth books.
📚 Dive into Leto II’s complete backstory, understanding his transformation from human to the all-powerful worm god. What drove his metamorphosis? What were his powers and how did they shape the universe of Dune? I tackle these questions and more, offering a detailed analysis of one of science fiction's most formidable figures.
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All of Leto's choices are to delay the creation of the self replicating, prescient hunter seekers that would have ended humanity on a universal scale. By preventing space travel except by his words, he limited any form of war or infighting that would have both boosted tech growth and incentivized the Ixians into researching more powerful hunter seekers. He also let the Ixians grow wealthy and complacent with his money so they had no reason to go against him by developing these systems. If they are making insane amounts of money making iPhones they aren't going to go waste time with weapons R&D especially if it risks their iPhone market.
This was all a stalling tactic to buy the breeding program time to create someone immune to prescience so they could add this camouflage gene into humanity. His actions would also cause the research into ships that weren't spice dependent and a large number of stifled explorers that were biting at the bit to go out into the universe.
Excellent explanation bro thank you, the golden path was always a little difficult for me to grasp.
What in the actual fuck are you talking about?
For those people who watched the two movies, but didn’t read the books, it gets really weird from here. 😂😂
I only read the first 2, but I still know what happens after them. You don't need to know the books to know the lore these days, I even know some of Brian's lore as well. Quinn's ideas is a good channel for Dune lore for instance. You don't need the books to know that the true protagonist all along was Duncan Idaho.
Evil Sex Witches with magic vaginas is when I bailed out.
Things start getting very UnHerbertish after the 4th book.
Other than it's still my all time favorite book series.
My 16yr old sons middle name is LETO 🤣
The God Emperor chose to not know how he died. He wanted it to be a surprise. He also wanted to create a future that wasn't deterministic. He was so bored of being able to predict every little thing. One thing not talked about the books is how much sex they have. There is so much sex in the books, I would venture to say that sex is a central theme of the Dune books.
I don't remember any sex scenes in the books, just the implications of a bit. This video even says that Leto lost his penis. When was the sex? I only read the first 4 books.
Leto knowingly takes the role of the bad guy so humanity will survive. Because he's the hero we deserve, but not the one we need...or maybe the one we need and the one we deserve..I don't know. Either way, he's a tyrant and people hate him because he wanted it.
He became what we needed him to become. Someone whom we can hate. Who made sure that humanity would never accept being chained up again.
Leto ii was the foil to Paul. Paul was a heroic character, a charismatic leader and ultimately a villain, using others to further his own goals. Leto ii was a monstrosity, a tyrant, and sacrificed his very humanity for the survival of mankind.
Love how symbolic Herbert's writing is
As the bene giserit are analogous to the power of motherhood
The voice is the voice of a mother which can topple kingdoms as sons and daughters will be influenced by their mothers
The ancestors possession is the pressure of family that will always try and fulfill the goals of parents and family
That are ancestors live on through us
Their goals ingrained in our identity
But Frank was also a huge narcissistic hypocrite too. He himself was charismatic and was never practicing what he preached.
Dewd ! I was thinking something along those lines these past few days, while listening to Dune books' commentaries. Prior to seeing Dune I & II there is this book I was reading: Karma by Sadhguru. In it, among other interesting things he tells us how karma is like memory imprinted on a non-physical drive which survives death of the body-mind and then waits in limbo(not his words, mine) for another moment of conception between two partners that have the similar affinities as its own (since we cannot speak of a gender yet). Besides this, not sure if it is from the same book, or even spiritual tradition, I remember reading somewhere that these tendencies that are repeated habits, recurring thoughts & emotions are ingrained in our genetic(but not just the DNA) memory -which would be better called ancestral memory. These patterns of acting, reacting and physiology are easily triggerable and can surface, especially since we spend so much time our our early, formative life with those who will teach us -not only by their words and advice, punishes and rewards- but by their very behavior which we mimic before our discernment is formed. These habitual behaviors become more and more prevalent in our lives as we get older thus we get more conditioned to our cultural and genetic heritage.
The key to not becoming our parents/grandparents/uncles/aunts/older cousins is becoming more aware of our impulses and unconscious tendencies as well as the social and cultural conditioning. As the author put it "distancing ourselves from our karma" That's how I view the ancestral possession as getting too under the influence of our in-built programs, sort of like you start running on automatic.
Also in Sadhguru's book are presented some curious ideas, like how one conciousness can simulaneaosly inhabit 2 bodies at the same time or how 2 "souls" can inhabit the same body and burn two types of karma. I'm not saying this sort of things are easily believable, however if we suspend our disbelief like when reading/watching a piece of fiction then it is worth considering how we are more than meets the eye and that what is presented as fiction may very well be plausible though not for your average Joe.
@@user-zg3gh8xg9v I don't see anything wrong with becoming those things, it's just not making mistake while being those things. See wrongdoings and make it to not do. Many things and habits are positive, trying to distancing from it and from karma is also a form of abomination.
At 14min the OP talks about shroom trips, he couldn't be closer to the truth that Herbert was describing. The spice are spores, the water of life is what happens when certain shrooms are soaked in water and then drank, and the mind expands with "the beauty and the horror" of the trip. Certain shrooms are said to connect you with your ancestors and other spirits that travelled beyond and sometimes to something higher still.
it rages for 30 minutes then total comfort. definitely like a shroom trip. my water turned dark blue
A most excellent video my friend, but a bit of constructive criticism as there will always be fans who hang on your every word… It is House Corrino, not Corneo, Laza tigers, not laser tigers, qanats, not quants, etc… It is clear that you have a maximal understanding of the source material, just a rushed remembrance of pronunciation… Take it for what it’s worth, I bring this up as a friend, and a fan of the source material… I’ve given a like and a subscription! Good luck!
I listened to the Children of Dune last night and discovered why Leto chose to become the God Empire: because his aunt’s activation of immorality would have made her hated but not in a way that would have left the correct bad taste in humanity’s mouth.
Leto also did this the out the BG plan to have him marry his sister and have a child w/her.
Not exactly. The God Emperor spent thousands of years breeding the ability to be invisible to presence. Preventing humanity from being manipulated by those with visions.
It was much more than that. But I disagree that it would not left the correct bad taste in humanity's mouth. Leto was a hero, so was Paul, no matter what Frank says. And that is not me ''not understanding'', I just hate hypocrites who are themselves writing books and never practicing what they preach like Frank Herbert was.
@@SenatePalpatinetrolleryou'll probably get hate for this, but I agree with you. If you read the 6 Frank books, the end results of Leto's Golden Path justify his tyranny and brutality. Frank made Paul spout off about Hitler in Messiah to force comparisons, but even Paul eventually comes to regret his actions and realize Leto was gonna do what he never could, even if it meant untold suffering. The moral essentially comes off as "sometimes, leaders become tyrants and brutal for ulterior, utilitarian motives" rather than "be wary of heroes, leaders, and messiahs"
@@SenatePalpatinetroller😂 no.
The sandworms didn't attack Leto because they recognized sand-trout, not because they saw him as one of their own. Sand-trout surround bodies of water which would mean the death of a sandworm so they leave Leto alone. If the sandworms saw him as "one of their own", they would have attacked Leto as sandworms are very territorial.
The "Common" folk aren't ready for the REAL Dune...🤣
Yeah for me it ends at messiah sorry lol
@@bennycostello2472 lol, no worries! 🤣
True
I bet they will never adapt the Leto stories, not without cutting the chunk of the novels into a quarter
Here we see why making a movie past Dune Messiah or maybe even Children of Dune is nearly impossible without it looking ridiculous. The novels are awesome but they're damn hard to turn into a movie.
Honestly, I'm down with Children of Dune and God Emperor of Dune all the way through Heretics and Chapterhouse being T.V. series
Thanks for the video
Now I know why I will never be God Emperor. After my shower I use Lynx - not old Spice.
It took him over 1000 years to become the worm, if I recall correctly. A lot of time passed between Children of Dune and God Emperor of Dune.
honestly of all the
characters in dune
Leto the 2 truly has
gone through a lot
from without question
sticking to the
golden path for
3,500 years
straight truly
hands down
until the bitter end
And also Leto the 2
is truly a tragic
character
as whole
well it's like that
old saying goes
you either die
a hero or live
enough to
see yourself
become the villain
and also Leto the 2 and eren
truly share so many
similarities from
with each other
but all in all
great video
continue to
make more
dune video's
and can you make
a video on dune
the butlerian jihad
That jjk short clip was very cruel and very well utilized
I had actually forgotten how batshit insane that book was.
The ultimate "ends justify the means".
This is a really good video! Channel needs to get more views now :)
I think Frank Herbert was experimenting with weed when he wrote Dune. But by the time he got to God Emperor he obviously moved on to shrooms. And Messiah, it made me want to fall on my crysknife.
Now I realize that I also have prescience and has been getting away from various future events for years.
I love this saga its 1 big shroom trip that has meanings within meanings.
This was a great explanation
Dune: Messiahs are bad!
Fank Herbert "fans": I wish we had a Paul (or Leto II) Atreides!
honestly how the hell is this going to be turned into a movie, its too weird IDK?
It is not. They will stop at Dune Mesiah (the second book).
I know it didnt happen, but i think mcavoy could have pulled it off with his charisma.
And animated if its still done, just animate it ok.
Frank definitely adopted a lot Don Juan's teachings.
25:00 is insane 😂😂😂
Thats the least freaky thing in this series. Letos fishspeakers have an orgy every year for him
you used Jessica's image a few times for Alea
Who would have known that Leto ii was played by James McAvoy in a Dune series called sons of dune back 2003 🤯 !!!!!!!!
I've read all 6 books but I'm still not sure why Leto didn't destroy the Bene Gesserit...
Leto said on GEoD that the BG were the closest he needed humanity to be.
He needed them reformed, as not the worst party if they stopped trying to control the universe?
The Ixians and Tleilaxu could have made a better version.
Yet they never did. Which means they were scared of same scenario of repeat of Butlerian Jihad. It's impossible to control those type of entities, whether they are biological or whether they are artificial, once being becomes fully self aware and sentient, it's impossible to be controlled.
@@SenatePalpatinetroller
True. Life, whether biological or mechanical, uhh, finds a way.
Thumbnail....is that Snoke on the right ?
Twas Beauty that killed the Beast.
i loved the book but i thought it was just a bit too much how he just turned into a whole ass worm. could have just had the scales over his body
Makes you realize where the story of eren Yeager in attack on titan comes from
As his final form is very wyrm like
It was actually heavily lifted. Golden path being Eren and the rumbling.
Didn’t know Dck Cheney was Paul’s wife …
It isn't "Cornio" - it's "Corrino"
Didn’t know Dick Cheney was Paul’s wife
Why do you keep on show pics of Paul's mother, when referring to ALIA?
13:04 BRUH
Like waves in a shroom trip huh?😂
26:03 goku 😂😂 !!
Holy AI art Batman…
W vid
By extreme fundamentalism in "many different religions" you really mean one religion. Islam.
Aaaaaaachtuallly there are extremists in every religion, even Buddhism
The "Golden Path" was made clear in the first paragraph of the first page of this book....The infinite existence of humanity. Your content is interesting but fouled.
Spoiler alert aaaaarrrrgh
LET'S GOOOOOO
Mispronounces her name as "Cheney"; later switches to the correct "Chani" while summarizing the hot mess that is all of Herbert's post-DUNE Dune novels. I mean, DUNE is the sh-t, but all the later iterations are IMHO disappointing, convoluted contrived BS. And why use the current cinematic Dune's Paul actor when he SUCKS?
Stop using Ai
Hey man, showing off Putin as an example pf how the Soviets were bad probably isn't making the point that you think it is
Did the truth hurt you?
Later Dune is very dumb.
after dune messhia the story isnt interesting
Eerrr...gross. Yuk😳🤯🥺🤢🤮😭😱
Juvenile.
Good videos but too bad it uses a lot of ai images. There are plenty of artists who has made dune fanart
Kind of a bummer that you’re commenting on a book that was written with the premise that AI/“thinking machines” are dangerous, and yet this whole video is riddled with AI art. Please remember that those AI programs were created by stealing from & learning without the consent of the artists whose works were used to train them.
Just another of countless YT channels trying to capitalize on a nearly 60 year old novel series. Please find your own angle bro, you're not going to get anywhere on making YT videos on HEAVILY covered points. 😂
Your use of ai is weird, but cool I guess….
A political leader becomes a literal immortal monsters inherited memory of millions and visions of the far future uses borderline AI that destroyed humanity 10k years ago in their time to free humanity. I see a messiah complex here. There’s no individuality in this story everybody but a pawn in the grand scheme. The only person with some individuality is a duplicate of his original self, a nth duplicate of himself who doesn’t even know if his memory forms by this iteration or the past inheritance
What a joke - believing in the omniscience of royalty - these books are for lemmings.
It's scapegoat not escape goat