Good luck with the silicone fix. I don’t have an equinox but I own a Deus. I cut pieces of electrical tape and covered my speaker when I bought it. Overlapping a little. I wanted to help anyway I could. Keeping water and dirt out. After 2 years it’s still on there as good as new. Works awesome. I’ll send pics if someone wants. Buy the good 3m scotch 33 or whatever it is. The good stuff. I really recommend it. Not sure about other areas. It probably would work on where pieces join together also. Take your time and cut tape with scissors. Good luck. Hope this helps.
I cleaned the back of my speaker with alcohol and then I used clear gorilla tape in sealed the speaker. Because that’s where I think the water comes in. I’ve done it to both of mine I am sure it wouldn’t void the warranty because I can just remove the tape if I have to send it back.
Steve, Vaseline is not good for use on o-rings. It deteriorated the rubber over time. Go to your local hardware store and get some plumber's grease. This is made for lubricating rubber washers and o-rings, along with other parts of a faucet.
As usual Mr. Gig Master great instructional video. I am glad you finally adressd this issue. I love the equinox 800, great machine when its working, but I have sent it back for repair three times. Two for water in console and one for shorted wire on coil connection. Minelab was quick to replace the consoles and coil. My unit is about a 1-1/2 years old. I use it often and only have the console underwater about two feet from the surface of the water. I bought the 800 because of the waterproof to ten feet discription. I am suprised Minelab has not recalled the units and replaced them with upgraded units that will not flood. I believe Minelab should find the problem and replace the units or just change the discription to land/beach unit only. $1200.00 plus dollars is a lot of money for these units that are not dependable. I hear some people do not have problems with their units, good for them. I how ever have sent my unit back three times. When I first started using the 800 I highly recommended the 800 to all my friends. I since have told them not to buy the 800. My Excalibur ll is way over six years old and has never broke. The speaker wire insulation is peeling so I thought it was time for an upgrade and purchased the 800. My excalibur is still going strong and now the 800 is a backup unit. Now thats not right. I will seal the unit and try not to dunk it in the water. I now highly recommend the Excalibur ll to all my friends now. I warn everyone who asks about my 800 about the numerous problems. Broke the arm rest now no big deal. Thanks again Mr Gig Master and good luck to all the treasure hunters. Paul 29 plus years detecting with four different machines.
Great ideas, I just have one thought. If the battery o-rings are rubber they may break down with the Vaseline since it is a petroleum based. May want to get a silicone based grease for them. Might work to pull the battery out and flow some silicone into the top of the battery chamber to seal it?
For the speaker, I would try the roll of rubberized roof tape. It has a peel off protective cover over the adhesive. Once that stuff is on, nothing will get it off. PS, I believe Vaseline will destroy the “O” rings, since it’s petroleum based. Use silicone.
Great job Gigmaster I just retired and I am moving to Florida I will buy the 800 after I get there . Beach and water hunting is all I will do .now I am worried about this machine leaking.
Gig the best solution for me and you is to use the equinox in the wet and dry sand. Since we both have the Excalibur ll, it will be a better water machine. I would venture to guess 9 out of 10 detectors’ would choose the Excalibur ll over the equinox for chest deep detecting. Don’t you agree.
Since your first video of your equinox leaking I have never completely submerged mine I just grab one of my Garrett's I don't want the headache of sending it back in and my Garrett's have never leaked.
Be great to hear a 1 Yr review how this is holding up. I recently took my nox underwater for the first time and it took on water and broke, still under warranty so it wasn't a major issue they sent out a new one but now the warranty is nearly out and I'm worried to take it under!
2 things you can also try to seal it up. Cut a bicycle tire tube and make a gasket for the battery area. Put 4 holes in it and it’ll go over the handle. If you’ve been to a hospital and had to get an IV they normally cover it with a clear rubber like bandage that it has a seal all around it but the center, that would be good for the speaker area.
The battery compartment seal is a Gore vent used for equalizing pressure. Not sure if I'd recommend sealing it. Google: gore vent. My money is on the speaker as the leak culprit, agree with Gig.
I figured that what that was but water puts a lot of pressure on the unit underwater so i am going to take my chances with sealing it. There is no vent on the excalibur!
gracias por compartir ,saludos colega desde colombia ,con su video pude dar con algo importante en las protecciones de equinox ,sacaré el video tan pronto haga unas pruebas
My equinox just died. I've been doing a lot of water hunting with it. I wonder if it leaked water inside also? I just sent it in to get fixed, so I guess I'll know soon.
Your better off using the Excalibur for that chore!.........I own two 800's and will not submerge them. To chancy for me in my opinion. Their good machines otherwise.
I think the vaseline on the rubber might be a bad idea. I just looked at several articles about vaseline and rubber and here was a good summation of such. - Vaseline or other petroleum products should never be used on rubber or neoprene objects. It can deteriorate the rubber or neoprene very rapidly. The correct lube to use is a silicone based lubricant, which comes with or without Teflon.If I were you I'd find some other form of sealant.
Since you didnt seal the the battery compartment, why not seal around the handle where it mounts to the shaft? I dont think I'm gonna seal mine I mainly bought it to be splash proof so I think it should be fine. If I decide to dive probably gonna cash in my pocket change I have been saving for 2yrs and buy a unit specialized for that. Thanks for the video. Also the headphone jack and battery compartment would probably be better with di-electric grease if u dont wanna buy a whole tube you can get it from any big auto parts store at the counter ($0.99) sparkplug boot grease same thing,just check and make sure it's safe for o-rings it should be though since sparkplug wires have rubber boots. Any word on the baby duck?
Hey Gig, so it looks like you're working on the dues 2 these days, but I was wondering for a final wrap up with the equinox 800, after you sealed it up, did you ever have any issues with any leaks after doing that? Thanks
It's one of two things either mine lab already knows where the leaks are but won't tell anyone. Or they're too lazy to put one of their machines in a tank with a camera or several cameras and film the unit sitting under water until it fails. They could speed up the process by putting it a little deeper than the rating of 10 ft. I guess there could also be a third reason,,,,, they knew from day one that these machines would leak but they wanted to use the waterproof rating as a selling point and they assume that most people will never use the machine to the point where it would leak.
The hole in the battery compartment is likely a safety in case the lithium-ion battery gets shorted and will allow some venting. You've no doubt heard about these types of batteries "exploding", and some do, especially when there is no venting. Don't really know of a solution here, but likely the hole is for venting purposes.
A little hole is a battery vent one way vent in case something goes wrong with the battery it doesn’t explode in your hand. I would just use Vaseline on the O-rings
The seam between the face and the body near the grip cracks on the nox it is a weak point . Care must be taken that pressure is not exerted to “flex” the units head . The plastic weld between the two halves is inherently brittle so having that at the top of the grip is bad engineering.
Listen I got something that'll work a lot better than all the work you just did I use this it's called Tear Aid patch type B it's a vinyl tape cut it and you tape up the speaker and me I put it on the front of the unit and around the edges and tape sticks to the unit no problem it's used on vinyl pools or I use it for my advertising balloons I put it on my machine and bingo it works like a charm and there ain't no water getting in this unit of mine I've used my Equinox l for four years and never leaked any water as a matter of fact if I peel the tape off the unit looks like it's brand new and the tape will not come off unless you pulled off it will seal the equinox it's going to work a lot better than what you just did took me less than five minutes to do the job and you can also put it underneath where the battery is and it'll seal everything up airtight simple and easy and not messy at all tear Aid patch type B check it out and by the way this stuff is a miracle tape you can use this stuff on almost anything it's about $70 a roll but I've been using it for the last 10 years and this stuff is a miracle for example you have any cracks in your boat or any of that stuff that you can think of and it will seal that up no problem buddy check it out I even think that you would even be able to take the equinox diving cuz this tape works so well I've already had it in about 30 feet of water and still no leaks ua-cam.com/video/r8_VBAHfPSs/v-deo.html
Hi, I was hoping you could send me a picture of your sealed machine. I understand sealing the speaker, but will the tape be a problem for the side buttons? Do you also seal over the four screws that seal the battery? Do you have any suggestion on protecting the charging port?
@@Frenchy88 the problem with the Equinox you're never going to get it to seal if you seal it in one spot it will leak through another spot it's just a bad design I don't even have my Equinox in the water anymore all the new machines out Manticore d2 all are the best decision sell what you got
You should have done this video first , as i wouldnt have bought my 800 .. i dont like land planning on using it strictly water.. if its advertised to work under 10 feet thats what it should do. Disappointed now.
Good luck with the silicone fix. I don’t have an equinox but I own a Deus. I cut pieces of electrical tape and covered my speaker when I bought it. Overlapping a little. I wanted to help anyway I could. Keeping water and dirt out. After 2 years it’s still on there as good as new. Works awesome. I’ll send pics if someone wants. Buy the good 3m scotch 33 or whatever it is. The good stuff. I really recommend it. Not sure about other areas. It probably would work on where pieces join together also. Take your time and cut tape with scissors. Good luck. Hope this helps.
I cleaned the back of my speaker with alcohol and then I used clear gorilla tape in sealed the speaker. Because that’s where I think the water comes in. I’ve done it to both of mine I am sure it wouldn’t void the warranty because I can just remove the tape if I have to send it back.
Steve, Vaseline is not good for use on o-rings. It deteriorated the rubber over time. Go to your local hardware store and get some plumber's grease. This is made for lubricating rubber washers and o-rings, along with other parts of a faucet.
Thanks will switch out
As usual Mr. Gig Master great instructional video. I am glad you finally adressd this issue. I love the equinox 800, great machine when its working, but I have sent it back for repair three times. Two for water in console and one for shorted wire on coil connection. Minelab was quick to replace the consoles and coil. My unit is about a 1-1/2 years old. I use it often and only have the console underwater about two feet from the surface of the water. I bought the 800 because of the waterproof to ten feet discription. I am suprised Minelab has not recalled the units and replaced them with upgraded units that will not flood. I believe Minelab should find the problem and replace the units or just change the discription to land/beach unit only. $1200.00 plus dollars is a lot of money for these units that are not dependable. I hear some people do not have problems with their units, good for them. I how ever have sent my unit back three times. When I first started using the 800 I highly recommended the 800 to all my friends. I since have told them not to buy the 800. My Excalibur ll is way over six years old and has never broke. The speaker wire insulation is peeling so I thought it was time for an upgrade and purchased the 800. My excalibur is still going strong and now the 800 is a backup unit. Now thats not right. I will seal the unit and try not to dunk it in the water. I now highly recommend the Excalibur ll to all my friends now. I warn everyone who asks about my 800 about the numerous problems. Broke the arm rest now no big deal. Thanks again Mr Gig Master and good luck to all the treasure hunters.
Paul
29 plus years detecting with four different machines.
Thanks for that info!!
Is the Legend a better buy since it is supposed to be a Nox800 clone and water proof?
Great ideas, I just have one thought. If the battery o-rings are rubber they may break down with the Vaseline since it is a petroleum based. May want to get a silicone based grease for them. Might work to pull the battery out and flow some silicone into the top of the battery chamber to seal it?
For the speaker, I would try the roll of rubberized roof tape. It has a peel off protective cover over the adhesive. Once that stuff is on, nothing will get it off. PS, I believe Vaseline will destroy the “O” rings, since it’s petroleum based. Use silicone.
Going to change it out. Thanks
Great job Gigmaster I just retired and I am moving to Florida I will buy the 800 after I get there . Beach and water hunting is all I will do .now I am worried about this machine leaking.
Thank you, finally someone is attempting to fix this fault. 👍👍
Good job...
Gig the best solution for me and you is to use the equinox in the wet and dry sand. Since we both have the Excalibur ll, it will be a better water machine. I would venture to guess 9 out of 10 detectors’ would choose the Excalibur ll over the equinox for chest deep detecting. Don’t you agree.
I just bought a 600. Great video. Thanks. The Gig is great!
Great technique so I’ll try it on my 800. It hasn’t leaked yet but I haven’t submerged it a lot lately. Better safe than sorry!
Thanks 🙏 Shaun
Since your first video of your equinox leaking I have never completely submerged mine I just grab one of my Garrett's I don't want the headache of sending it back in and my Garrett's have never leaked.
Be great to hear a 1 Yr review how this is holding up. I recently took my nox underwater for the first time and it took on water and broke, still under warranty so it wasn't a major issue they sent out a new one but now the warranty is nearly out and I'm worried to take it under!
I would also like to know if you can hear the speaker at all when it’s on land once it’s all covered up. I do not use headphones. 👍
Franken-Nox Is WATERPROOF Now... Good Job !!!
Vaseline is a petroleum product which is not good for "O" rings. You should use silicone grease like you use on your dive equipment.
Thanks will switch out i have some
also Iin the plumbing aisle
Looks like you covered all the bases. The little hole in the outer battery compartment was a weak point. Good Luck!
Great job Gigmaster👍
I would like to know if you can hear the speaker at all when it’s on land once it’s all covered up. I do not use headphones.
Done that 2018 right after receiving it.. still got the first pod 👌🏻
Smart man! 😂
Preventative maintenance is always a good thing. Good luck with the sealing. ATB. 👍
Hi Gigmaster. This is one modification I will be watching very, very closely. Thank you!
2 things you can also try to seal it up. Cut a bicycle tire tube and make a gasket for the battery area. Put 4 holes in it and it’ll go over the handle.
If you’ve been to a hospital and had to get an IV they normally cover it with a clear rubber like bandage that it has a seal all around it but the center, that would be good for the speaker area.
The battery compartment seal is a Gore vent used for equalizing pressure. Not sure if I'd recommend sealing it. Google: gore vent. My money is on the speaker as the leak culprit, agree with Gig.
I figured that what that was but water puts a lot of pressure on the unit underwater so i am going to take my chances with sealing it. There is no vent on the excalibur!
muito bom , deu certo ate hoje?
I water hunt alot but I try to keep the head out of water but it has been dunked intentionally and unintentionally No problems for three years.
Another great vid by Giggy
Great job gigmaster☕😁
gracias por compartir ,saludos colega desde colombia ,con su video pude dar con algo importante en las protecciones de equinox ,sacaré el video tan pronto haga unas pruebas
RTB the buttons, my Garret carrot recently failed at the button seal.
You always impress me Gig-gyver!
My equinox just died. I've been doing a lot of water hunting with it. I wonder if it leaked water inside also? I just sent it in to get fixed, so I guess I'll know soon.
Submerge the unit and blow into the battery compartment!
Good job Gig, hope it stays leak proof for ya!
Thank you, my warranty just ran out too and I had 3 flood out already. If this doesn't fix the issue nothing will.
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Your better off using the Excalibur for that chore!.........I own two 800's and will not submerge them. To chancy for me in my opinion. Their good machines otherwise.
@@carlfr2977 Yes I agree I just picked one up last weekend.
@@mikeorourke7171 The excalibur, from my experience, is a deeper machine anyway.
Thank you very much for all those suggestions! I make about twelve trips to the water a year and my warranty is up in August.
In the beginning you said water was already in the unit? How did you remove it
Hey gig, if you answered questions or responded people might follow you more!
Plumbers grease may work a little bit better than Vaseline
I think the vaseline on the rubber might be a bad idea. I just looked at several articles about vaseline and rubber and here was a good summation of such. - Vaseline or other petroleum products should never be used on rubber or neoprene objects. It can deteriorate the rubber or neoprene very rapidly. The correct lube to use is a silicone based lubricant, which comes with or without Teflon.If I were you I'd find some other form of sealant.
Thanks
How about clear packing tape over speaker?
Wont be waterproof
I hope it works for you Gig. I've never done any water hunts, mostly field and woods, but if I do I have a Fisher 1280X that I would try!
minelab should get rid of the internal speaker and give you a external wifi speaker that clips on. i never use the the speaker only use the headphones
Did it ever work
Since you didnt seal the the battery compartment, why not seal around the handle where it mounts to the shaft? I dont think I'm gonna seal mine I mainly bought it to be splash proof so I think it should be fine. If I decide to dive probably gonna cash in my pocket change I have been saving for 2yrs and buy a unit specialized for that. Thanks for the video. Also the headphone jack and battery compartment would probably be better with di-electric grease if u dont wanna buy a whole tube you can get it from any big auto parts store at the counter ($0.99) sparkplug boot grease same thing,just check and make sure it's safe for o-rings it should be though since sparkplug wires have rubber boots. Any word on the baby duck?
I am going to name it lucky. In a fine home
@@Gigmaster sweet!! Glad hes doing well. I really enjoy your vids informative and fun. You are one of the main reasons I bought an equinox800.
Just passing through to say hi.
Hey Gig, so it looks like you're working on the dues 2 these days, but I was wondering for a final wrap up with the equinox 800, after you sealed it up, did you ever have any issues with any leaks after doing that?
Thanks
I have not so far
It's one of two things either mine lab already knows where the leaks are but won't tell anyone. Or they're too lazy to put one of their machines in a tank with a camera or several cameras and film the unit sitting under water until it fails. They could speed up the process by putting it a little deeper than the rating of 10 ft.
I guess there could also be a third reason,,,,, they knew from day one that these machines would leak but they wanted to use the waterproof rating as a selling point and they assume that most people will never use the machine to the point where it would leak.
I hope it works👍👍
Has this stayed waterproof?
So far
The hole in the battery compartment is likely a safety in case the lithium-ion battery gets shorted and will allow some venting. You've no doubt heard about these types of batteries "exploding", and some do, especially when there is no venting. Don't really know of a solution here, but likely the hole is for venting purposes.
I agree but a possible leakage too?
Anyone had to send one back and does it a long time
They are pretty fast!
Nice ! 👍
A little hole is a battery vent one way vent in case something goes wrong with the battery it doesn’t explode in your hand. I would just use Vaseline on the O-rings
The seam between the face and the body near the grip cracks on the nox it is a weak point . Care must be taken that pressure is not exerted to “flex” the units head . The plastic weld between the two halves is inherently brittle so having that at the top of the grip is bad engineering.
dip in clear Flex Seal.🤣
Really??? 100% silicone.. RTV
Listen I got something that'll work a lot better than all the work you just did I use this it's called Tear Aid patch type B it's a vinyl tape cut it and you tape up the speaker and me I put it on the front of the unit and around the edges and tape sticks to the unit no problem it's used on vinyl pools or I use it for my advertising balloons I put it on my machine and bingo it works like a charm and there ain't no water getting in this unit of mine I've used my Equinox l for four years and never leaked any water as a matter of fact if I peel the tape off the unit looks like it's brand new and the tape will not come off unless you pulled off it will seal the equinox it's going to work a lot better than what you just did took me less than five minutes to do the job and you can also put it underneath where the battery is and it'll seal everything up airtight simple and easy and not messy at all tear Aid patch type B check it out and by the way this stuff is a miracle tape you can use this stuff on almost anything it's about $70 a roll but I've been using it for the last 10 years and this stuff is a miracle for example you have any cracks in your boat or any of that stuff that you can think of and it will seal that up no problem buddy check it out I even think that you would even be able to take the equinox diving cuz this tape works so well I've already had it in about 30 feet of water and still no leaks ua-cam.com/video/r8_VBAHfPSs/v-deo.html
Why dont you post one video showing what it looks like
I sent to mr. Gigmaster I'm sure he'll post it once he receives it
Hi, I was hoping you could send me a picture of your sealed machine. I understand sealing the speaker, but will the tape be a problem for the side buttons? Do you also seal over the four screws that seal the battery? Do you have any suggestion on protecting the charging port?
@@Frenchy88 the problem with the Equinox you're never going to get it to seal if you seal it in one spot it will leak through another spot it's just a bad design I don't even have my Equinox in the water anymore all the new machines out Manticore d2 all are the best decision sell what you got
You should have done this video first , as i wouldnt have bought my 800 .. i dont like land planning on using it strictly water.. if its advertised to work under 10 feet thats what it should do. Disappointed now.
3 year warranty and they will replace. Yours may be fine but they do have a high rate of leakage.