How I prepare backing tracks with Logic for Stage Traxx 3

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  • @scottbakernc
    @scottbakernc Рік тому +10

    Love this. I do a very similar thing with GarageBand. I'd LOVE to have your code to run the routine to download all the stems/tracks. This would save me hours of work!!

  • @yblanco
    @yblanco Рік тому +2

    I just started using Stage Traxx and discovered this in the support forum. Thanks so much for putting this together. It's just great !!!

  • @groversheffield3753
    @groversheffield3753 Рік тому +2

    Ben, thank you for leading and raising the bar. Thanks for taking the time and sharing. Best wishes to you and your band!

  • @jimirvine772
    @jimirvine772 20 днів тому

    Great tutorial

  • @kipjones6673
    @kipjones6673 Рік тому +1

    THIS IS FANTASTIC! exactly what I have been looking for. Thank you for your concise and informative video!

  • @jmagness5946
    @jmagness5946 10 місяців тому +1

    I need to figure out a way to turn stereo tracks into dual mono tracks in Logic because from what I understand, Logic's way of dealing with stereo is not to move the left to the right but silence the left. Some single stereo KV rhythm guitar mp3s have one guitar on the left and a slightly different guitar on the right. So panning in Logic will negate the L guitar. This is also true on background vocals as well.

    • @bscheirman
      @bscheirman  10 місяців тому +1

      in that case I'd probably duplicate the track and pan each one. Alternatively you might be able to sum the track and send to a bus which is panned hard L or R.

  • @oneminuteguitarlessons6060
    @oneminuteguitarlessons6060 Рік тому +1

    Excellent video. Your process is very similar to mine though you are far more advanced. I’m guessing but I’d bet the reason the karaoke-version’s tempo waivers is because they play along with the original versions most of which were recorded before protools. Thanks for posting.

  • @cobby54
    @cobby54 8 місяців тому +1

    Ben, great video! I'm a total beginner to Logic Pro X and Stage Traxx 3, so I'm trying to use your video as an instructional tool in the hope of learning the basics. Have I bitten off more than I can chew? Having recently downloaded both software packages on my iMac, I've 'dot-pointed' each process into a word document. So I'm literally copying what you've done with 'Keep Your Hands To Yourself'. A few questions, though:
    1. How do I move the whole song (all the tracks) forward (to the right) in order to accomodate a two-bar click? 2. How do I put a two-bar click on the Click Track? 3. How do I select/copy, then paste at the beginning of the Click Track?
    Obviously I'm still learning the key commands, and as yet I haven't got a clue what all the little icons mean up by the tool bar! Thanks again for a great video - can't wait to get into the Stage Traxx section. Cheers for now...

    • @bscheirman
      @bscheirman  8 місяців тому

      keep at it, all of these things become easier with time!

  • @JimMillerDrums
    @JimMillerDrums Рік тому +1

    Thanks for reminding about mono. That has bit me before on tracks hard-panned the wrong way, and I accidentally included the stereo track. Oops.

  • @GillesBeaulacJoe
    @GillesBeaulacJoe 4 місяці тому +1

    First, what an amazing job you did with kv-downloader! WOW! Kudos!
    I have started with the newest version. Is there a way that it will not include the count in if by chance it was set at some point in the past for a given song? I have about 400 songs and I wish not to have to manually remove it.

    • @bscheirman
      @bscheirman  4 місяці тому

      @@GillesBeaulacJoe can you pop an issue on the GitHub project? It’s a good idea.

  • @mark-olson
    @mark-olson Рік тому

    Thank you so much for this. Very helpful!

  • @CloudiVist
    @CloudiVist Рік тому +4

    Ben, thank you many times over for that KV stem download script. I have purchased over 360 KV custom backing tracks since 2014 and I cannot tell you how tedious it is to download a song stem-by-stem. I cannot understand for the life of me why KV doesn't have a stem set file download button on the song page. I've bought over 360 KV custom backing tracks since 2014 and have yet to get around to downloading at least 49 of them. Would have been nice to have a switch argument that lets you choose to download the stems with the count-in in front, though. Anyhow, thanks again. It's a real time-saver.

  • @bobbysbackingtracks
    @bobbysbackingtracks Рік тому

    Nice and concise 😊

  • @lgovantes1
    @lgovantes1 Рік тому +2

    Great video... My workflow is similar, but I just download the tracks I need, to use in ST3. I use Ableton, but usually, I just save the files straight and import to ST3. I love the routine you used to download each track separately. How can I obtain that routine? That would save a lot of time.

  • @jazzzman1000
    @jazzzman1000 11 місяців тому +1

    Would it be possible to get a copy of your bulk download tool? The wait time is excruciating! Thanks

  • @STEFLiveTube
    @STEFLiveTube Рік тому

    You are a genius. Thanks for sharing.
    Hit me up if you want a vocalist frontman from Australia.

  • @njc235
    @njc235 9 місяців тому

    I love the script! I managed to get it working, I wish I knew how. It's far too clever for me. Next step would be to queue a load of URLs. Probably easy for someone to mod to make this happen.

    • @bscheirman
      @bscheirman  9 місяців тому

      No need to modify the source when you have bash, can write a loop that reads from a file. But just be careful you don’t end up looking like a bot

  • @davidneely4791
    @davidneely4791 11 місяців тому

    This is great, thanks for sharing.
    Does the script reset the track back to 100% volumes and pan center?

    • @bscheirman
      @bscheirman  11 місяців тому +1

      no, it doesn’t touch those settings

  • @TheGolem1976
    @TheGolem1976 7 місяців тому +1

    Hey Ben,
    Would you Share The Download Script?
    Cheers
    Holm

  • @garairobert1991
    @garairobert1991 2 місяці тому

    Is it possibly to share the (timecoded) lyrics with the singer?
    So the actual lyrics would be highlited there too.
    Thank you. Btw, amazing tutorial video 👏🏼🙏🏼

    • @bscheirman
      @bscheirman  2 місяці тому

      Yes, when you go into Lyrics view in Stage Traxx 3, you can play the song and add timestamps to each line. When performing, this will highlight the current lyric. Multiple people can join a "Session" in StageTraxx 3 to view the current song, which includes lyrics & timing information. Only the Host gets to control playback, however.

  • @mikemyday4795
    @mikemyday4795 Рік тому

    Hello Ben.
    Great Tutorial at all.
    I do exact the same thing with tracks from Karaoke Version but Preparing them with Studio One.
    So i also have Logic x and want to use it for this kind of preparing instead of Studio One.
    So my question is:
    1. You wrote a small program or code to automate the download from karaoke version .
    would you share the Program?
    2. Do you have to timestretch the individual tracks or is it only the drum or Klick Track that makes the leader for the others.
    3. Must the tracks be aligned in some way to fit on the DAWs Klick?
    thanks a lot and take care of you
    greets Mike

    • @bscheirman
      @bscheirman  Рік тому +1

      Hey Mike,
      1. Here's a link. I just don't want to officially support it :) --github.com/subdigital/puppeteer-karaoke-version
      2. The click that KV provides works well, but it often drifts, so if you make your own click you'll find that the song will deviate from it. So I use the click from KV, and when I import the song I can use the click track to analyze tempo. This can be useful if you need to edit or loop sections.
      3. Doesn't have to be, but see point number 2.

    • @mikemyday4795
      @mikemyday4795 Рік тому

      Hello Ben. Thanks for the Link. I will try it soon.❤
      Another Question i have is about the state of the tracks.
      when the click track is analyzed and the relative position of the other tracks is fixed
      does this mean i can change the tempo and the other tracks following automatically
      or must i do some tweaking in the Audio tracks to follow the tempo?
      Thanks Mike

    • @bscheirman
      @bscheirman  Рік тому

      @@mikemyday4795 In theory this should work. In practice I try not to touch it because if the click gets off it becomes useless.

  • @petermanchester9339
    @petermanchester9339 Рік тому +2

    Hey buddy! Would you mind sharing your script for d/l-ing the tracks? I hadn’t even thought of that! 🤯

    • @bscheirman
      @bscheirman  Рік тому +7

      github.com/subdigital/puppeteer-karaoke-version
      Can't offer support, but hopefully you can take it from here.

    • @petermanchester9339
      @petermanchester9339 Рік тому

      @@bscheirman looks great! Thanks for doing the heavy lifting on it and for sharing 🙌🏻

    • @kitchendezina
      @kitchendezina Рік тому

      @@bscheirman Thanks Ben, the script works perfectly!

    • @riffism
      @riffism Рік тому +2

      The script is genius. The biggest pain in the ass with using karaoke version is the time it takes to download individual tracks

    • @scottbakernc
      @scottbakernc Рік тому

      @@kitchendezina where do you put the .env file with login credentials and what did you name it? I'm using a Mac running Ventura. Tried calling it login.env and put it in the root of the project, the src folder, and GitHub folder. All fail. :-(

  • @oneminuteguitarlessons6060
    @oneminuteguitarlessons6060 Рік тому

    I have tried to find a way to take the Karaoke Version tracks and snap them to a grid in Logic. I have used the brute force method and snipped at each quarter-note and moved them. It takes forever and causes some audible skips if you aren’t careful. Does your method adjust the tracks to grid or Vice-versa? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

    • @bscheirman
      @bscheirman  Рік тому +2

      The method I show here adjusts the tempo in Logic to fit to the actual tempo in the track. So what happens is the grid warps to fit whatever the beat is. You can see it in the global tempo track, most tracks are not 100% bang on to a click, and they tend to fluctuate.

    • @oneminuteguitarlessons6060
      @oneminuteguitarlessons6060 Рік тому

      @@bscheirman Thanks. I am pretty new to Logic but will try your method. I am convinced Karaoke-Version produces their tracks by copying the original song onto their DAW and playing along with it so the tempos waivers just like the original. My band plays a few songs that are of the Protools era and their tempo is locked in. Thanks for the video and your response.

    • @oneminuteguitarlessons6060
      @oneminuteguitarlessons6060 Рік тому

      @@bscheirman I think I failed to reply a few days ago. Thanks for your reply and your help

  • @BillyNolan-xn1np
    @BillyNolan-xn1np Рік тому

    Hello Ben, A multi track question. Ok so it seems you put your 4 to 6 tracks into the app. Then pan again the music left and click right because the output is only 2? Left and right? My interface is only 2 channel as well.

    • @bscheirman
      @bscheirman  Рік тому +1

      Yes that's right. However I did eventually upgrade to a Presonus 16R, which has plenty of digital outputs we can use from the iPad. So I had to go back and unpan (center) all of the tracks for all the songs. 😅 -- But for most people using a more affordable interface, you'll only have 2 channels so the only way to split them into separate tracks is with hard panning.

  • @sebastiengenola
    @sebastiengenola Рік тому

    Good morning
    I admit that I'm not really familiar with the terminal commands, but I managed, with tutorials, to clone the project. but when I enter the nmp command it does not recognize it I get a message "zsh command not found"
    Is there something I'm doing wrong?
    THANKS

    • @bscheirman
      @bscheirman  Рік тому +1

      you're probably missing node (and npm). phoenixnap.com/kb/install-npm-mac

    • @sebastiengenola
      @sebastiengenola Рік тому

      @@bscheirman in fact, I didn’t even know how to use the script and how to install it with the terminator. But I asked to ChatGPT how to do it, and it seems that it will gonna work. Thanks a lot for your work.

    • @sebastiengenola
      @sebastiengenola Рік тому

      it only download the first track (click) and wait for others one. then I get an error message saying : @@bscheirman
      Waiting for download...
      file:///Users/MYNAME/puppeteer-karaoke-version/node_modules/puppeteer-core/lib/esm/puppeteer/common/WaitTask.js:68
      this.terminate(new TimeoutError(`Waiting failed: ${options.timeout}ms exceeded`));
      ^
      TimeoutError: Waiting for selector `Your download will begin in a moment` failed: Waiting failed: 120000ms exceeded
      at Timeout. (file:///Users/MYNAME/puppeteer-karaoke-version/node_modules/puppeteer-core/lib/esm/puppeteer/common/WaitTask.js:68:32)
      at listOnTimeout (node:internal/timers:573:17)
      at process.processTimers (node:internal/timers:514:7)

  • @petermanchester9339
    @petermanchester9339 Рік тому

    Another question, Ben, how do you share all your recent changes with your bandmates and keep in sync? Do you do a full back up and then sync everybody up with the most recent changes? I need a github for band scores and tracks 😂

    • @bscheirman
      @bscheirman  Рік тому +1

      No one else in the band has an iPad, so it's just me. But I do use multiple devices. I tend to make all major edits on my Mac and then use the iPad for practice & gigs. I used to have to backup & restore often, but now I'm using the ST3 iCloud sync, and so far it's working pretty well.

  • @ronsissons8994
    @ronsissons8994 Рік тому

    Do you have the code on github somwhere to automate the downloading of the individual tracks?

    • @bscheirman
      @bscheirman  Рік тому +2

      yes, you can find it here: github.com/subdigital/puppeteer-karaoke-version

    • @ronsissons8994
      @ronsissons8994 Рік тому

      @@bscheirman Thanks. Got it working. This will save quite a bit of time.

  • @borisbacic3658
    @borisbacic3658 Рік тому

    Please which version of Logic Pro you use and which mac model and OS

    • @bscheirman
      @bscheirman  Рік тому

      Logic Pro X 10.7.9, macOS Ventura.

  • @TiaraSiyani
    @TiaraSiyani 4 місяці тому

    what ipad do you use?

    • @bscheirman
      @bscheirman  4 місяці тому +1

      @@TiaraSiyani I have an iPad Pro (not M1) and it works great, but for other reasons I typically run the show from my laptop.

    • @TiaraSiyani
      @TiaraSiyani 4 місяці тому

      @@bscheirman what is recomendation ipad for playing backing track?

    • @bscheirman
      @bscheirman  4 місяці тому +1

      @@TiaraSiyani any new iPad will do fine, the Pro line will be handle more simultaneous tracks. If you need it also to control a mixer, lights, etc and backing tracks I would recommend the iPad Pro