Pros & cons of vtec lockers on a Daily driver. (0-134 pull video)
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- Опубліковано 25 лют 2020
- In this video i go over the pros and cons of locking vtec in full time. I also do a 0-134 mph pull video and go over some ways to combat the ill effects that locking vtec can cause.
Link to the locking vtec
• How to run a Vtec cam ...
Link to magnetic drain pan bolt
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SOMETHING I FAILED TO MENTION!! I forgot to say that if you have flat top pistons or high dome pistons you will need to clay the pistons to check for piston to valve clearances. Stock y7/y8 or z6 pistons they are dish and never caused a issue for me in the past doing this.
I know you have repeatedly stated you are not sure how well this work on a stock Y7 but im wondering if i would need a new ecu? Will this throw codes if i don't change the ecu?. Mine is stock and automatic and id like to keep it simple but add a little power.
@@carleelittle3929 same bro
@@carleelittle3929 if it’s auto this isn’t a good idea. Bucking on a stock converter isn’t fun
what about vitara pistons?
Can it work on a b15b vtec ?
I never was a fan of the Honda’s/ricer scene, always a v8 die hard.. just so happened to have a couple drinks with a buddy and got to talking and had an elaborate idea of going to buy cheap Honda civics and throw cheap eBay turbo kits on them... so here I am now driving a 350$ 98 civic with a junkyard motor and it’s given me way more smiles than I could have ever imagined😂 sorry for knocking you guys in the past
Nobody understands how fun it is to beat the living shit out of a car and it just takes it lol
Exactly! People always trash on civic but as soon as I give them a ride and let them look at the build, how cheap building can be, and just how easy it is to learn on and build yourself they always are converted into at least understanding a lot more
I have a bmw 340i with about 430hp. I bought last year a civic 2002 for racing and wow. I love it! I add a stage 2 cam and tuned it. I now have about 170hp and have more fun than my bimmer haha
This channel is so underrated, everybody is hyping over channels who swim in the money making those highly sponsored builds.
I prefer the practical budget way this man builds and paints.
Its relatable and a more realistic approach for people like me who dont have allot of money to spend.
Im a bit autistic and i cannot function on the workfloor and school as i want to.
Im unemployed and still going to college music so.
Thanks for posting this stuff!
I hope you keep the motivation going! I really want my d16 shuttle/wagon to make like 200hp turbo.. havent got the money yet but eventually wel get there i hope
Thanks i appreciate it i have some sponsors here and there they don't pay bookoo bucks or anything and 90% of what is done comes from my own pocket. I will always try to keep that broke joke mindset even if i become rich.
@@TexasHondaChannel you gonna go far, dont stop grinding! and please drive safe!
Love from the neighbor next door. That thing is a beast.
Thanks man!! You can verify its not slow since you rode in it. haha tell the people!
Great video. Love it when you test drive in Mexico.
Yea i mean i can't do it legally in america but mexico is a little easier on their laws.
Love it man! I'm showing my buddies who are making fun of my 90hp civic now lol
Hell yea man so many haters now days its stupid.
@@TexasHondaChannel well we all meet at a car meet bc I have a 05 Magnum RT with heads, cam, intake done so its weird for them to see me with my mini wagon now ,1990 ef hatch , half cylinders and half size makes sense to me
Your Channel is really coming along I'm so glad to have tuned in when I did, to have been a part of this.
Thanks for sticking by even when the channel was on its slower side.
I ran locked vtec single cam for a year until i started wearing the head and cam down. Just a stock all motor running rotella 10-30. Idle is dope, and the power range is way better. Car was super fun but it did not compare at all to an all motor b series, let alone turbo. A turbo locked vtec would be an awesome build in the future, I think my friend still has my old rocker arms i might try to buy back
Less MPG...can’t get the ponys if ya don’t feed em lol
Exactly!
Another great video buddy and keep up the good work and hope all is well with you and your family and keep living life to the fullest and God bless
My boy J ftw man keep it up. Good looking on the shout out.
No problem man! I give credit where its due
At least you were honest that’s all we can ask 👍 great video
Looking good james and good information on the cam swap
Thanks man!
Pros - All of them
Cons - None
dang that 30 psi pull was beast! need some track footage or mexico footage ...
mexico is always cheaper!
AndY CaPP Yup just putting more content out so I can afford a new windshield so I can get some track time in!
Boosted Fool indeed 😎
@@TexasHondaChannel lol u gotta catch a lambo slippin
@@andycapp8505 If i find one ima race it for content :D
That single cam moves 🔥
Thanks :D Once i get the issues fixed its gonna move even quicker!
Loving it bro! Sounds badass
Hell yea i enjoy this car as a daily! Even more fun going through the gears.
i always used those magnets drain plugs also the magnet the goes on the oil filter keep ur motor runing clean after a Breaking in period.
Pro tip: Buy a $500 Civic then lock VTEC the race in the 24 hours of LeMons
Awesome content bro thanks 👌🏻
That thing pulls hard as hell for a d series lol love the cammed lope it has now!
Yea for sure! I LOVE IT!!!!
Nice work!
Hows the gas gauge drop on that pull.. you know you're driving a race car when...
Sick 🔥🔥🔥🔥 thank you
So amazing civic nice work bro:)
Thank you!
Gonna do this when i get my crx vtec’d 🤤
Keep up the goodwork man !! Is it possible to do something like that on the d15b2 ??
Yea if you run a d16y8/d16y7 or d16z6 head. Unfortunately it don't work for the d15b1,d15b2,d15b7,d15b8 heads but you could have piston to valve clearance issues if you run a aftermarket camshaft locked in. i failed to mention that
Sounds amazing
876 Productions I couldn’t agree more! I love it
Good deal man i just picked up a y8 cam and rocker arm assembly today. Ive heard of this but never seen anything on it. I plan on installing it soon. Luckily if anything happens i have a extra head and also have 3 b series blocks 😂😂😂. Hope to see a difference
BOOSTED CIVIC Just remember it will need some adjustments for the cruising and stuff like that but it was a noticeable change over the stock y7 cam
For sure man i currently have it apart upgrading quite a bit of stuff but thanks for the tip man.
Great intro! We need to get you an aero turbine muffler. That thing would sound so deep, and with that lobe it'd be so mean sounding. My buddy had one on his civic and it sounded so deep, I've had one on multiple 4cyl cars and people always asked me about it.
Yea ima go 3 inch exhaust soon and will be in the market for a better muffler
@@TexasHondaChannel also that insert isn't about how much pressure it gets. It makes the eagle screech at lower boost, it is more about slow velocity air. The bov needs to open further at a lower boost to get the eagle sound. Its probably why the design works so well in my ssqv. The gretty knock off I had like that either opened easy and wouldn't hold boost at higher levels, or would hold higher boost but not open easy. I think that is due to the design of it having a spring to hold it shut instead of boost pressure hold it shut like the ssqv does.
@@sinformant Makes perfect sense
Did you wrinkle the piping?
The wrinkle black was already painted that when when i bought them from amazon.
I do believe that the rocker arms in the d17a motor in the 2002 civic fit the d16 head. The d17 has roller rockers stock, which should help with the wear on the valvetrain.
William Clough yeah roller rockers straight up give you more power through reduced resistance I’ve seen with dyno pulls
I came here from your other video... wanting to do that on a f22a1 ... know on motorcycles 250cc on the cam they have a little hole on the top of the cam that's for the oil to get in it and have the cam lubricated at all times...its a tiny hole you think that would help
I need to know if this would work on a b18b with a Vtec cam
Great video is fast and i own b18c doesnt come close to your D series on 0-134
weird question I have a d15b7 mini me I'm doing and instead of running a p28 cuz I don't have one I was thinking maybe I just run the locker pins on po6 u think it'll be ok
I have a 7th gen civic with a D17a2 non vtec, currently bone stock. I know these engines aren’t the best for building on to, i was just wondering some mods i could do to make a little extra power out of it.
Hi did your timing change when you lock vtec ??
very nice info, thanks!! what is the link to the drain plug?
OH CRAP sorry ill put it in the description and here it is
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How much HP do you have on that pull..? In intrigued. 30psi in one of this I'll say 400ish..?
What program are you using to tune ?
Can you post another link for that magnet. The link isn't working. Thx bud
What did you do with the oil pump and the d16y oiling issues are they as bad as people say?
AKA adding a bigger cam.
🔥💪🏼
How is it holding up as of now man?
Hey man, the link that you have for your tuner doesn’t work. Is he still doing remote tunes? Thanks!
Yes he is on Instagram and Facebook.
facebook.com/msengvixay620
@@TexasHondaChannel awesome thank you so much! I love your cars and your channel is my biggest inspiration!
hey nice video,.. how much for the turbo set up,.. i see alot going for the ebay turbo kit, should i get that???
Created Film I pierced mine together. Log manifold for $50, turbo for $161, intercooler kit was $159 oil feel and return line kit $40 in my other videos I have the stuff linked
What do you think about duel stage boost controllers? Would one work well with your current set up?
Trung The Maker I have a electronic boost controller on the car currently for boost by gear it has quick spool turned on and all and my waste gate spring is currently at 6psi spring and I’m hitting 29-30psi max off that spring but ima upgrade the spring to a higher one so I can turn up even more.
still running 2 years later ?
You can correct the speedo by using hondata to increase or decrease percentage values for an accurate speedometer?
The speedometer is accurate i use GPS to verify. The reason its jumping straight up to 60-70mph is the tire spin lol.
@@TexasHondaChannelsoo the speedo percentage value can be increase or decrease for accuracy??
Hey thanks for the video I watch all of the vids you upload is there any way I can do this on a d15b7 what rocker setup do I need and what cam
I need 2 know this 2 plz
Z6 head bolts right on, around 10.5ish cr on b7 block
15* at 30psi?
That's alot of timing. What fuel are you on?
Is your head built man? Can i do this to a completely stock engine? I'm gonna be doing a budget nitrous hatch soon and I wanna send it.
Do CSS
If was just swapping into my y7 would I need to get it tuned???
Yes
You’re not wrong about the cam wear but to be fair pretty much every other four-cylinder engine on the market doesn’t have VTEC like Honda does. They have your typical variable valve timing, but nothing special. I’ve never seen Honda’s really have cam problems at all from my personal experience but maybe because you have a single lobe controlling two valves? correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t that how the SOHC engines are? Also, what’s your 0 to 60 time?
Damn bro when is this coming out on DVD 💪
nick Anderson When someone signs me to be a paid reality star
@@TexasHondaChannel ur on your way man
first time tuning into this channel so answer me this, does my man have 30PSI running on stock IM and fuel rail?!?
john thompson Yes stock intake manifold with port matched B18C throttle. The fuel rail supports up to 600whp. Seen it time and time again. I’m on 1000cc injectors with only 50% duty cycle so I’m not even flowing near enough fuel to worry about it. As for the intake manifold I couldn’t and still can’t afford a skunk2 or Edelbrock manifold so it’s gonna have to do for now
Texas Honda Channel damn so i ordered upgraded fuel rail for no reason. i’m tryna do rebuild+turbo for less than 1k.
john thompson Heck Yea I did my entire build including buying the car and paint and all for $3,000 the engine being built I only have $700 just on the block and head. Forged rods and vitara pistons arp studs and all that Jazz. If you haven’t seen my previous videos feel free to check the description i leave links in the description when I can.
A cheap harbor freight magnet from them dollar pans may work good for oil filters. 🤔🤔
Craig Lawson Yup they help!
I have the 05 dx-vp. It has the stock d17a1. Is the a2 vtec head a direct swap?
No the a2 is a K series engine. kinda looks like a single cam but its not
@@MegaWeeds420 he means d17a2 sohc
Was it making 30psi boost or was it making a little over 15psi boost plus the atmospheric pressure?
it was making 30psi but I have 8:8:1 compression so it helped me reach the level safely
Just asking because a lot of people forget to subtract atmospheric pressure from their MAP reading.
Love ur channel bro! So humble and very imformitive. If i got questions can i msg u on here or do u have instagram?
Yes no problem and my instagram is texashondachannel just type that in and it should come up!
Hey man i meant to ask u. I know u have hondata but can it be done on a chipped p28 thats tuned?
BOOSTED CIVIC yes but it would need live tuned to adjust everything
@@TexasHondaChannel okay just wanted to make sure. Im currently doing the rear main seal as we speak so just wanted to check
Wondering if this is available for the D17A1 VTEC can in the D17A1 non-VTEC head? 🤔🤔🤔
Not sure to be honest,
Do you recommend doing it in a daily use car?
greatly increases fuel consumption by doing so?
if it's your only car I would not recommend. yes it will increase fuel consumption.
What’s your thoughts on doing this on an f23a1 with an f22 cam
Jacob Brown just lock it on the f23 cam. That’s what I did. Worked great. Unfortunately the eco vtec the f23 has does not give you a lope lol.
bro if i can use the y8 cam in the y7... can i use the y8 aftermarkets cams?
No you can’t the stock y7 rocker arm assembly is different
@@alwaysbroketv yes he can you have to use vtec rockers
What's the eagle whistle lol? I googled it but no results
It’s in my other videos like my green Ef hatch.. It’s my blow off valve
Can someone please answer me, can I put my d15z6 cam in my d16y7, or should I just swap the whole head
i have a locked vtec b20 with b16 head. My current issue rn is the engine wont idle by itself. It’ll rev out clean and everything but once it drops idle below 1500 it bogs out. Could that be related to it not being tuned properly?
Is there a mod or aftermarket speedometer gauge to actually know how fast you’re going? Or like a dash swap with something?
Dustin Ninja I use Hondata to see for now but im sure if I get a TYPR R cluster I would have no issues
Texas Honda Channel i guess you could do a digital gauge too and put it near the other gauges
Can you take out the Vtec lock?
30 Psi well built engine like the Honda knowledge not many channels have good knowledge can i just check you watching YT Pfi Speed for daily Honda FIX
PFI has good stuff brent is a good dude. I appreciate you stopping in!
i know the f22b1 is a very underwhelming vtec engine, but i still want to know if you can lock vtec with it
You can I’ve done it with a f23a. All you need is a junk head or some pins from a junk yard.
Isn't this the same engine that's in my 92 Accord lx??? I'm almost posative it is but mine isn't vtec I'm confused I just now found out about locking vtec about five minutes ago
covid 19 you most likely have a f22a1 so non vtec.
what tuning software do you use?
Hondata s300 with Smanager
I’m curious could you do this with a z6 cam on a a6 head?
That_white_E36 The rocker assembly and head casting is different so I don’t think it would. Only 1 way to know is try but the cheapest way to do that is test it out at a junkyard that way it won’t cost you anything hehe
Texas Honda Channel right I mean worse comes to worse I try and it doesn’t line up well enough I could always do a mini me but really don’t wanna pull the head yet hah 😂
Why not starting with a non vtec head? Wouldnt it be effectively the same with just a cam?
RandomGamer This is a non vtec head on the car in this video and the y8 cam and rocker assembly made it where you can run the popular y8 camshaft with vtec locked in. I ended up swapping to a y8 head since this head ended up having a warped head after the headgasket failed.
Yes
I wanna vtec lock a d15 with y7 head for some reason haha
If you have the PM3 pistons you have flat tops so you will wanna make sure the piston to valve clearance is ok. It should be but if you run a aftermarket cam locked you might have clearance issues.
I'm confused as to the point in this. Is this a non-vtec engine with a vtec cam? If so, then I can understand why you would lock it. If it *is* a vtec engine then all you are doing is losing a whole bunch of midrange torque.
Kj16V The d16y7 is a non Vtec engine non Vtec cam shaft and makes less power than a Vtec engine. For the people who want to run a bigger camshaft since there isn’t a lot of options out there for the Y7 non Vtec you can now run a y8 cam shaft which they have tons of options for. Essentially you are locking vtec in since there is no vtec solenoid on a y7 you typically can’t run a vtec cam in these heads. If you lock vtec you can now run a vtec camshaft: is it easier to just swap a y8 head on a y7 block? Yes of course but some people are difficult myself included. I did it to prove you can and it did make more power doing this as opposed to running the stock y7 camshaft.
@@TexasHondaChannel Thanks for the explanation!
In here for some 1/4 mile times on slicks
Same here! Im just saving to replace the windshield thats $200 by itself. Then ima buy some slicks and make some passes.
Would it be fine to do this mod if I don’t have rods and pistons I’m on stock rods and pistons
ahh forgot to mention this! -_- If you have flat top or high dome pistons the piston to valve clearances might need measured but i know it works on stock y7 or y8 pistons
Texas Honda Channel ok so basically I’m same save to do this mod
That_boostedhatch 2001 Yup
Can I get a mod list?
How much HP
When is the dyno video?
TURBOTRISTAN when I can afford to get it there and when I get the time. Lol 😂
Can I put a locked vtec cam in my EF d15b2?
I don't believe so because it requires the swapping of the rocker assembly and the rocker setup for a d16z6 or y8 don't fit the head casting of the D15b1/b2/b7 style heads.
So what would be my best option? D16 head? Or just trash my d15 has a whole and go D16
You did not mention valve springs...the y7 springs are pretty soft.not ment for high lift.rpms and 30 psi boost lol!
Untouchable * The springs in the y7 are just as strong as the y8 btw. Is this the right way to do it? Probably not but does it work absolutely.. Also no stock components are meant for 30psi technically. The issue was blow off valve breaking and causing a boost leak and felpro headgasket crapping out due to them not being able to handle 30psi. I will get a real race cam eventually but money is tight so im doing what I can with what I have.
@@TexasHondaChannel no prob did not hear you talk about it.yes they are the same i beleive.
You will make more power w proper valvetrain down the road!
Enjoyed your video,brings me back in time!gd luck w money,my build stays in garage for now...
i cant see the link for the oil pan bolt?
That's odd ima have to try and re put it in the description.
thanks
What I want to know is how are u getting past the speed cut off.? My hatch cuts off at 118 mph n its fuckin annoying... Is it possible without chipping ecu.???
BJ use P28
Put a kill switch on your speed sensor
As you said, wearing of valvetrain is one cons..
Can i use more short locking pins to make @3,000 rpm vtec kicks in.
Vtec cylhead user.
You can just tune your ecu to "kick in" at 3k but I dont see why you would do this
Run good oil itll be fine
Entonces esto de bloquear el vtec es como activar vtec desde 2mil revoluciones prácticamente no? Con un control Apexi podría lograr eso sin nesesidad de poner esos pasadores que bloquean el
Vtec prácticamente no? 🤔
Everyone clicking on this Please Understand THIS IS FOR A NON VTEC HEAD....THE Y7 IA NON VTEC...THE Y8 CAM GIVES YOU THE BETTER LOBE FOR MORE BREATHING. ITS A GREAT WAY TO GET A BETTER CAM PROFILE WHEN THERE IS VERY LITTLE AFTERMARKET SUPPORT.
Ohhh- that makes sense. I’ve never heard of v-tec locking, and I have a stock 99 ex with a d16y8
Esto prácticamente es como activar vtec antes no?
Who is your tuner ?
I'm new to hondas I just swapped a y8 into my ek sedan how do I get a little more power now with out turbo? or can I daily drive a turbo car?
You won't get a reliable 15k mile a year car, get more flow, or go b18 easy 200hp+, or kseries can get up to 300hp no turbo
Turbos are fun but one thing goes wrong and you grenade, and there's so many more things to go wrong. N.a. you can use mostly stock HONDA parts
@@jaybee6477 after a while of consideration I’ll definitely be going B series motor I’m gonna try to make my civic a civic ferio or as close as possible on my budget
This thing rips! Is the head code for this y7:
P2A-(2,4) or
P2F-HA-(2,3,4)?
How much does this hurt reliability?
Ive heard it doesn't like cold starts too much. atleast on a D-series not horrible just rough idle cold and sometimes you may have to keep it running with the pedal until it warms up enough.
@@kadehinojos2598can confirm. Thats exactly what it does.
Are you sure it was going 134mph? If you didn't change speed sensor for the lower gear ratio the computer could be giving you false readings because the computer is receiving bad data. If you truly want to test that theory try a GPS speedometer.
Positive it was. The tuning software has all that info in it that can be adjusted. We have the short gear transmission clicked. we have verified this in the past with GPS
@@TexasHondaChannel Well if you're sure that thing screams. You gotta be putting out 300+ horsepower and 300 torque for that kind of acceleration.
Which motor is that
D16y7 forged rods,vitara pistons, arp head studs y8 cam with vtec locked so the cam fits in the engine
Heard it's a rough ride.... At low to mid rpm.
Not after its tuned properly it drives just as good as the y7 cam did. Now before retune it did buck a little.
Is this on pump gas 93????? No octane booster or meth?
No octane boost just straight outta the pump. Wait till you see what i made on 93 octane. Video dropping soon
@@TexasHondaChannel 😱 brave soul. I love it. Youre sending it proper brotha👌🏿
RACE-ALOT- GARAGE Yea the timing isn’t turned up too high since it’s still on 93 pump. My tuner knows his stuff really good though.
Damn I missed out on the magnetic drain plug.
Any work done to your block ?
On this setup that was installed in this video yes. I have video of me putting forged rods and vitara pistons in it.
Me looking at my civic thats only pushing 10psi 😒
What about locking it on a Y8 head?
nyreppin1 it’s the same method.
But what could you do about the VTEC solenoid?
nyreppin1 right
nyreppin1 It uses oil pressure to change to the bigger profile so if you have vtec locked there’s no need for it
@@xalr6128 I wasn't asking what VTEC is