Yeah.... returning player here, and this may be a bad take, but after 3 months, I feel the healing and tanking from Wrath was a far superior experience compared to today's. Not saying go back to that as there have been some great improvements, but the fundamentals feel really off. Healers are dps now, tanks are healers now, and dps... well their still deeps. It feels like they are slowly moving towards just doing away with tanks and healers, and just improve healing and mitigation for dps (may not be a bad thing I guess).
You are not wrong but at the same time I don't think there are many enjoyers out of the fact that now as a healer you are so much more dependent on other people pressing their personal defensives and then using their group wide defensives as well making your own healing feel quite irrelevant in many scenarios. It is a trend as you noticed already, good or bad, that's up to the players to decide but it feels like specifically for healers things don't feel well and they haven't for awhile now
These are the two biggest pain points that explains why the state of survivability feels very frustrating, especially to healers: - Health pools are very low respective to incoming spikes of damage. People must always be full hp, or they die if so much as a passing breeze touches them. This is primarily a health pool issue, and Blizzard dropped the ball at the start of TWW when they did the balancing pass increasing everyone's hp by only ~50% instead of 2x or even 3x. - Blizzard can't seem to understand that they are compounding the issue by defaulting to buffing healing(either by aura buffs or the raid buff) rather than survivability directly, which forces them to increase the amount of burst damage accordingly to the excessive amount of (over)healing going on already.
If I remember correctly they did say in a blue post that they understand that the damage is bursty/spikey and they will work to fix it but it seems they keep missing the target and basically doing the same thing over and over again.
@@thelegendbehindthecow Because they seem allergic to expanding health pools and introducing more rot damage mechanics as opposed to burst. The solution is simple, but they are just reluctant to implement it.
Overwatch had the idea that healers should also be dps. And ever since then every blizzard healer has to also be huge dps in addition to huge heals. No longer are pure healers allowed, everything has to be a dps healer hybrid and as someone who just wants to sit and heal it pisses me off.
its because the meta of high level players requiring everyone to 'push' as much damage as possible, so healers started 'weaving' damage into their rotations and eventually this spread and other groups felt compelled to follow suit and blizzard took notice and started baking this into the healer kit. Its annoying for sure, applying a lot more pressure on healer to do damage and heal at the same time and dispel and movement and defensives etc etc
Yeah, in this current iteration the healer damage is completely irrelevant but some classes like Disc purely rely on damage to heal and that's the reality. The old pure healing is gone and I don't think it's going to ever make a full return :(
Yeah.... returning player here, and this may be a bad take, but after 3 months, I feel the healing and tanking from Wrath was a far superior experience compared to today's. Not saying go back to that as there have been some great improvements, but the fundamentals feel really off. Healers are dps now, tanks are healers now, and dps... well their still deeps. It feels like they are slowly moving towards just doing away with tanks and healers, and just improve healing and mitigation for dps (may not be a bad thing I guess).
You are not wrong but at the same time I don't think there are many enjoyers out of the fact that now as a healer you are so much more dependent on other people pressing their personal defensives and then using their group wide defensives as well making your own healing feel quite irrelevant in many scenarios. It is a trend as you noticed already, good or bad, that's up to the players to decide but it feels like specifically for healers things don't feel well and they haven't for awhile now
These are the two biggest pain points that explains why the state of survivability feels very frustrating, especially to healers:
- Health pools are very low respective to incoming spikes of damage. People must always be full hp, or they die if so much as a passing breeze touches them. This is primarily a health pool issue, and Blizzard dropped the ball at the start of TWW when they did the balancing pass increasing everyone's hp by only ~50% instead of 2x or even 3x.
- Blizzard can't seem to understand that they are compounding the issue by defaulting to buffing healing(either by aura buffs or the raid buff) rather than survivability directly, which forces them to increase the amount of burst damage accordingly to the excessive amount of (over)healing going on already.
If I remember correctly they did say in a blue post that they understand that the damage is bursty/spikey and they will work to fix it but it seems they keep missing the target and basically doing the same thing over and over again.
@@thelegendbehindthecow Because they seem allergic to expanding health pools and introducing more rot damage mechanics as opposed to burst.
The solution is simple, but they are just reluctant to implement it.
Overwatch had the idea that healers should also be dps.
And ever since then every blizzard healer has to also be huge dps in addition to huge heals.
No longer are pure healers allowed, everything has to be a dps healer hybrid and as someone who just wants to sit and heal it pisses me off.
its because the meta of high level players requiring everyone to 'push' as much damage as possible, so healers started 'weaving' damage into their rotations and eventually this spread and other groups felt compelled to follow suit and blizzard took notice and started baking this into the healer kit. Its annoying for sure, applying a lot more pressure on healer to do damage and heal at the same time and dispel and movement and defensives etc etc
Yeah, in this current iteration the healer damage is completely irrelevant but some classes like Disc purely rely on damage to heal and that's the reality. The old pure healing is gone and I don't think it's going to ever make a full return :(
It should always (for the most part) healers don't need to do dmg ever, but it helps. Of course, unless the spec. is designed around it.
More and more skills are pushing in that direction though, even for classes that don't generally do damage to heal. So it is what it is :(
You miss one GCD and everyone dies :(
Sadge but true :(