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Hi Forgiven, thanks for stopping by!

I'm very emotional! Jokes aside, I recently got a new mic so still muddling with voice levels when recording. Thanks for pointing it out, I'll try to adjust it better for the next videos :)

Fair! There are workarounds for the bouquets and the indicators but it's not going to be 1-to-1 coverage with what Vuhdo has. Not sure what you mean by "DPS hostile targets from healing frames". Can you clarify?

​@@thelegendbehindthecow Sure, you can create a custom window for either your target or focus which you can assign DPS spells, then just click the bar like you would normally to click heal. You assign the spells under the Hostile area of the spells section.

@@CybreSmee Oooh, I see what you mean, you don't want to target the mobs. Fair enough! Cell does have NPC and Spotlight frames that supposedly allow you to do the same but I'm yet to do a deep dive into them. If I find anything interesting I'll report back, probably with advanced guide video too :)

@@thelegendbehindthecow Yes, but its different, thats only for tracking. Vuhdo allows you to DPS directly from the frame. This is amazing for Disc Priest, for instance, you can focus the boss for attacks, but then heal the team as needed without losing any DPS uptime on the boss. I usually alternate between healing and firing off a few DPS attacks (my mouse has 4 buttons, so I always have a combination of 4 healing and 4 DPS spells on the go). I also use a custom bouquet that tracks the focus target health with breakpoints, so I can balance the boss's health with my mana, letting me know if I can push harder or need to be more conservative.

Thank you! And I feel you, kind of the same here as long-time Vuhdo user. Direct answer to your question is NO. However, there are a few things that you can do. First, you can change the order in which the hots are displayed by moving them up and down the list. It does not guarantee position if something is missing from the list but at least it's a start. The other option is to make custom trackers (similar to the one that I made in the video) and place them wherever you want! However, the downside for this approach would be that you'll have to make and place every single one separately.

@@thelegendbehindthecow Alright ty! I tried to make custom tracker for example Life Bloom for rdruid but it wouldnt track because it wasnt a "buff". So unfortunataly it doesnt seem to work with HoT spells. Still great addon and I think I will stick with Cell, just have to get used to it being visually different :)

@@Facie Hm, it does track for me. Make sure you're getting the correct spell id in the custom indicators. Sometimes skills with the same name will have several different ids and if you input the wrong one, you think you are tracking that skill but in fact you are not. Let me know if you have trouble making it work and I'll try to provide more tips!

@@thelegendbehindthecow Oh ok could be that then! Ty for the tip!

Good point! Cell does have NPC section but I haven't muddled with it much yet. Putting this in my notes for future reference and may be advanced guide video with some of the other ideas/requests/questions from the comments!

You have a point there! I had to heal them a bit even before these changes hit the deck :)

Is it though? Can you confirm this information? I haven't seen anything related to this anywhere

@@thelegendbehindthecow idk, I think they will get treated like standard characters once they move to retail... a charachter I boosted in Legion recieved their heritage armor when I reached 50 with it recently.

@@andrijajovanovic1589 You are correct! I just tested it in fact - had old vulpera char just at lvl 50 that I didn't play and I also did not have the achievement for that race. You actually have to go do the quest but it is unlocked indeed so once the remix toons are out of pandaria, you should be able to complete w/e you are missing on them too!

@@thelegendbehindthecow remix limits your characters, arent you supposed to get the dragon isles quest once 60? You don't since it wouldn't make sense, same goes for heritage I believe.

@@andrijajovanovic1589 The chars are limited BUT that should be the case only until they are timerunners within the remix. Once out, I think they will be converted to normal toons so nothing should prevent them to get all the quests then, be it dragon isles or heritage

Can't comment on the PvP part as I rarely participate. Pretty sure PvP content creators will have much better take on that!

Yeah that always feels nice when it happens but it also feels terrible in the patches when these classes are dog water ;)

I would imagine it's there now mine wasn't available till 8pm last night but it's still technically dragonflight for me I don't have expansion but some things like the raid bosses for gear I heard it's the 30th even thou they have quests already for them lol.

Yeah, Blizz is famous for throwing out some unexpected "scheduled" maintenances that go over a day :D Luckily I was on vacation so I didn't have to deal with server downtime and w/e came after that :P

You need a mic and some footage to make the video, the +3 is irrelevant in that regard :)

Sorry for late reply, I was out on vacation. It's a WA that you can grab from the Discord in the description along with a video that explains how to customize it!

Yep! I was away for a week on vacation so let's see what's the state of everything. Hoping to see more moves in the right direction :)

M0s aren't that much harder then heroics, don't stress!

Yeah, as our friend mentioned M0s should not be a problem and even if you fail once or twice, just go again. Be scared of the RNG stuff that is annoying :D

I was on vacation and haven't played in over a week but Farseer would manage mana much better than Totemic. Still an issue for resto shaman though which is quite unfair since many of the other healers do not use mana at all :(

I mean I have 3 60s I never got 2 70 just gonna do the last 10 lvls on all of them vs starting over

I am high indeed but I'll be doing so! Can't get those achievements otherwise :(

Cheers, you are very welcome!

Thank you, feel free to share the link! I'll try to update it to a much better state for TWW using spell ids so you guys won't have to do extra work on your end.

I agree that too little damage will make it boring. However, right now they tune everything assuming that you have aug evoker in the group and other dps classes that provide extra group wide defensives ON TOP of the personal defensives that most classes have 2-3 or even more of. So in order to move health bars, they need to do damage to go through all of these and then some more! And then you get people not utilizing those, getting one shotted, ping-pong bars, etc. I think they need to strip defensives a lot in general, not all of them but a good part, so then they can tune accordingly and it could still be a bit bursty but it won't be as brutal as it is right now. And yes, this is going to require enormous amount of work sadly :(

I don't want to spoil this but although Voidweaver is a lot of fun, looks and feels amazing (big hype from myself as well, let's go!), it kind of falls behind the other healers a little bit. They are still changing and tuning so there's hope... but then you still won't have interrupt and there's plenty of curse and poison dispels which is OMEGA unfair in general, even more so for priest... So just keep these things in mind, as bad as they sound :(

@@thelegendbehindthecow hey thanks for the little warning, yes the lack of interrupt already bothered me a bit in s3 and now also in s4, but the fun I have with disc outweighs this negative point. The Disc Priest was the first class with which I reached KSM and even got much further in DF season 3 (m+ score of 2775). Although I've been actively playing WoW since Legion, I've never cared about any dungeon content or raid progress, but since DF and especially since I discovered the Disc Priest, I've just been hooked. So of course the voidweaver probably won't be the best hero spec for healers, but for me personally it's a favorite because I've always been a big fan of darker mages in RPGs, but at the same time I like to take on the supporter/healer role. For a long time I've wanted a healer in WoW that specializes in dark magic and now it's finally coming, I'm just so hyped that I forget the few negative points like the lack of an interrupt, or stun etc. Thanks for your video by the way, it gave me a nice overview of all the hero speccs!

Tuning and scaling in beta is always a big question mark but so far it doesn't feel like SL S1 and tanks are definitely fine without having to kite. It's a long shot still but Blizzard did say in the blue post that this is not their goal so may be, just may be, this time they get it tuned just right? I do agree though, if it gets to kite meta and tanks dying left and right, we are going to end up in a worse position for sure

@@thelegendbehindthecow I just don't want to play my kit perfectly, but then just die because I had to rely on a healer to do their job, it will make me just wanna log off forever.

There are a lot of insanely tuned fights right now but the last boss in Mists in particular had this extra mechanic added with the big green circle on top of everything else so now melee gets only like 50% uptime on the boss because of it as they have to run away from soul link and swirlies too... And since we had heavy melee in this group with aug, basically noone was hitting the boss for huge periods of time. May be they should add even more mechanics to it because there are a couple of second every now and then when nothing happens and mechanics do not overlap :D

This comment throws flashbacks to a guild tank that I used to play with. He'd have absolutely no idea how M+ works and would pull extra packs or do bosses without caring about mechanics, everyone would die but he wouldn't, because you know, he's the tank and then he would say "you guys suck at this game, stop dying! Loot at me, I'm so good at this game that I never die" :D

It's different from everything so far, it's not that difficult to learn but at the same time there are so many option to improve if you want to become really good at it. And of course needless to mention that it's the most powerful spec in M+ if played correctly (and probably with group coordination). Personally, I find it a bit more boring compared to everything else as you are neither doing damage, nor healing but TLDR: give it a shot and see if you like it!

@@thelegendbehindthecow a true support class?

@@Aikicyoaz Yeah, it is a true support - you are buffing everyone else one way or another and you have plenty of utility, including group wide defensives. It's as supporty as it could be :)

@@thelegendbehindthecow hmmmm that is super tempting...

Finding tanks in pugs is actually a good argument. I can confirm that the last couple of seasons it was getting worse and worse to fill in this role and the tanks are definitely overpowered right now yet not many players go down that route. From one side, I don't think it could get much worse than it is right now even if people start switching to different roles. After all this change is more tailored towards healers. However, it could also be the case that being so overpowered as tank right now is kind of boring too? May be the changes will make the role more interesting to play?

@@thelegendbehindthecow no, on the contrary, tanking will be harder and people will quit the role. Tanks are not overpowered right now, its just vdh that we can argue is overpowered, but the rest are just fine. I am not sure where is this opinion coming from. Every tank needs their healer every now and then to heal them, not fully focus, sure, but early in the pull when ure gathering, it matters a lot cuz thats when ure the weakest. Yes, the tank will be overpowered in a +8 with 528 ilvl, duh. But if the healer was having a rough time keeping themselves and 3 dps alive, imagine now when the responsibility is also keeping the tank up, and u ll have to always keep an eye on him, since if he dies its a guaranteed wipe

@@alexatudor8089 I don't know man, I play in the +10-14 range this season as I didn't want to bother going higher and I never had to heal a tank, no matter what class they are playing... Always second to them on the healing meters as well. If that's not overpowered, I don't know what is :)

I mostly agree with you. I tanked with a VDH and with a BrM, arguably each on the opposite side of the tank spectrum. I still think the VDH was too good. I had to work alot harder on the BrM to achieve the same results as on the VDH while also needing the healer to back me up. Some tanks needed tuning, but I don't think the way it has been done.

@@thelegendbehindthecow yeah I’m playing +15s and almost never have to heal the tank either. Unless it’s a pally…those require quite a bit of attention from the healer.

how dare tanks have fun and be self sufficent , how dare you have a lot of responsibility on dungeon routes and enjoy the game.

I'm not a tank but that seems to be the case right now. Good tanks are still fine! Bad tanks are not fine but they were not fine before these changes anyway ;)

20 min q tank in lfg nothing wrong with that , lots of people wanna go dps now , and i supposed its gonna be the same for other tanks , forcing people to rely on a random guy in a modern era where everything punishes , cannot wait to see how this dumpster gonna go , people don't see the amount of healers blame that will also bring and turn off if people keep failing cause of "healer" tank dies , well better bring a good healer , ohh not to mention now people will nitpick on the s tier healers only , people are actualy blind and don't dig deep and see how this design will lead to people quiting and more toxicity.

Honestly, this is how healing feels for a long while now. Even if you play good and you press your cooldowns, people still die because there was an overlap of mechanics and/or they didn't press their defensives. Many switched to DPS so that's definitely a trend. That said though - so far from the few keys that I played, it doesn't seem that tanks will be dying if they play good. They would just need a little bit more help from healers but if they play well, then they are fine. I'll give you example with the first boss in AV - I have to spam heal bad tanks through the tank buster, decent tank need just an extra heal or two and perfect tanks can survive with just a riptide. So far the situation is something similar but that first boss of AV just happens much more often.

I didn't play back in bfa or legion so no idea how it was back then but season 2 felt so bad because they buffed everyone's defensives and added aug evoker into the equation. So now in order to make health bars move, they had to account for the millions defensives and mitigation that everyone has thus the bursty / spiky damage profile in dungeons. Nerfing the tanks is the first step to get away from that but more is going to be needed. Joining you in the hopes that S1 in TWW won't feel as bad - after all they have time to do more changes and adjustments!

@@thelegendbehindthecow bfa and legion were all bout rot damage. If the tank pulled too much he would just die. Watch eye of ashara dungeon video and a kings rest one done at a high level. The new dungeons damage profiles are not this way. There is to many places you need consistent interupts but so many bosses you don’t want melee. The dungeon experience as a whole coming up is not looking good. They have only a month and I don’t think they have time to tune it correctly without nerfing it to the ground where it’s to easy. At this point average keys done will be 8-10 for 90% of pop. The pugs will hit a wall at 12 and top 1% will only be at 14. Maybe this is what they want but participation will be at its lowest yet.

@@captainkribble7665 Yeah, no doubt that things are not looking good right now but I think that they still have time to make changes. I mean they implemented that tank change just now which is very near to release when they could have done something in S4 instead. So if they follow this policy, I think a LOT more changes are yet to come in all directions. Hopefully they fix the dungeons :)

I have to spam heal bad tanks all the time in all key difficulties so that's not going to be anything new :D Big praige they address the dungeon tuning next - based on how everything went so far, they are definitely going to do it, I just hope there's enough time to smooth it out before release

what ego tanks are you talking about? These "big" pulls are meant to be done since it's part of the dungeon route; maybe you're behind on timer and you got nothing to lose and try some chain pulling, or maybe that's the necessary packs to be cleaved down in order for that key level to be timed. If the group died what's that supposed to me? The healer couldn't keep up? Not enough kicks? No CCs? Then if that's all true why on earth would you want your tank to be less effective and self sufficient? Now the healer needs to primarily worry about his tank not dying to a NECESSARY "dangerous" pull.

@@alexatudor8089 ^^ This is something a lot of people don't seem to understand that the higher you go up the more you will need to double/triple pull packs in order to make time up on CD windows so good point!

They don't need it but they have it! I'm not saying take everything away from them but right now it seems things are getting a bit out of control.

For sure! There are a lot of bad examples to be honest but I wanted to keep the video short so just mentioned a couple. Halls of Infusion definitely takes one of the top spots for worst ever dungeons to make it into M+ in my personal list :)

I think the tank nerfs by themselves aren't bad. It's the dungeons and their damage profiles that need attention as that leads to tke spikiness that you mention. Let's hope they tackle this next!

Tanks were already fucked, being invincible is poor game design.

@@Mediiiicc For who? Sure as hell not for tanks who enjoy being responsible for their own wellbeing while healers should just give a hand when the situation is out of control. You wanna make healers relevant? Nerf DPS' own self-heal and DR. This way you get a 1) happy tank that can take care of himself as long as he knows his limit, 2) a healer that gets to focus on healing the group and throw a CC here and there and 3) the DPS that gets to focus on, you know, damaging :O and CCing mobs. Edit: Not to mention that Monks basically got a buff..mental

@@LuuLBV You're confused if you believe a tank being 100% self sufficient is a requirement for being a responsible tank.

You should try some single player games. Dungeons are a group effort, and needing the healer reinforces this.

@@Mediiiicc No, but tanks shouldn't be the main focus of a healer, as I stated above. Healers should help the tank here and there. Unless you wanna go back to spamming a low-med mana cost heal on tanks to keep them topped, cause that is so much fun.. and out of everything I said you addressed only what was fit for your argument

Yeah same, tank tuning felt good, not too nerfed, not too powerful. The dungeons though, that's a whole different topic for sure...

Hell yeah, let's just hope the dish is edible at the end =)

Hm, haven't thought about it from this perspective but you might end up being correct. My fear with this sort of rework initially is for the shaman not to end up as hpal - they got reworked, played amazing and then got nerfed below ground to unplayable state. Let's hope Totemic doesn't get that end of the stick too

Haha, don't lose hope! First, everyone is biased and second, it's still early with changes and tuning so everyone's opinion is probably going to start shifting one way or another. Long story short, as of right now, basically everything is looking good probably except priest.

I'm glad we have some good listeners here =)

I don't think it matters that much - I pick enchanting but mainly to just disenchant all the useless gear from vault. You can easily pick tailoring too. I roll with Alchemy on the couple of chars that I played the most in DF for the longer phials but at the end of the day, I think the only thing that really matters is engineering for M+ if you class doesn't have brez :)

Thank you, cheers!

Cheers mate, you are welcome!

Yep, even if they make Downpour 10 seconds, it's still going to bring almost no value in M+ unless you have a stacked and coordinated melee group. The tank nerfs should be fine as long as they are not overdone. However, I don't see the part where "encounters will be designed with that in mind". As you said, damage is already quite bursty, lots of heavy aoe, right now it's not looking like they are going to change it. Instead, they are making some fights even harder by adding more mechanics to the last boss in Mists, for example, so now you're getting sucked in, pushed back, knocked & chased around while being hit by ticking aoe damage all at the same time, it's ridiculous. Dungeon & incoming damage design need to be on the front seat when changes like this are happening and they are simply not.

Same =O

@@thelegendbehindthecow change it fam xd no wonder you are bottom table!

@@ProtinusHQ I did! Any suggestions and advise are more than welcome :)