How Mario Games Got Weird Again
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Have you noticed how Mario games have been in a creative renaissance lately? We're seeing new games and remakes alike that are (mostly) embracing the series' inherent strangeness to explore new ideas, new takes on the usual level themes, and new evolutions of classic gameplay! Makes it hard to believe Mario was nearly the opposite for a while: From about halfway into the Wii era through the end of the Wii U's run, we mostly saw a homogenous art style, the same overdone aesthetics, and gameplay that ranged from "the same as last time with slight adjustments" to "trying so hard to re-invent everything without making sure it actually worked".
So, how did that turn around? How did Mario rediscover its original--very weird--roots in time to help propel the Nintendo Switch to the heights it's reached today? Tune in to see how and why Nintendo's brightest star went from strange to safe to strange again.
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Article - Super Mario Bros. Movie Sequel Announced (The Hollywood Reporter): www.hollywoodr...
Misc. - Nintendo Console Sales Figures (Nintendo JP): www.nintendo.c...
Misc. - Super Mario Bros. Wonder “Ask the Developers” Interview (Nintendo): www.nintendo.c...
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we've gone from "its so over.." to "WERE SOO BACK" so abruptly
The rejuvenation of Mario’s creativity is like going from a slum to a 5 star estate
@@autismandgaming4532 There was no rejuvenation of Mario's creativity, he never lost it. A couple more simple games that have their own share of creative things don't equal "loss of creativity."
@@cyanideOwO that's like one game, if you want to make your point, try at least listing more games during that era than just one bruh.
also, your comment doesn't even make sense, like how can sticker star more than simple ?
@@chrange9714 bro he means that mario in the late 2010's that said that they cant make new mario characters if they are third party like including (alphadream&paper mario devs) look at paper jam and sticker star
Sanic never leaves the slums
@@soundgz AlphaDream could always make new Mario characters what're you on about? Having one new game with no big new characters doesn't mean they aren't allowed to make them. Look it up, that was their decision with Paper Jam not one they were forced to do because of mandates. Those only existed for Intelligent System after Sticker Star, kept over their heads by their IP team. Sticker Star didn't have them, that game came about because Miyamoto requested that it be more simple. He had little to no involvement with Color Splash and Origami King.
Wario Land deserves a comeback
heheh, it's pizza time
💣 I-I-I-IT’S HAPPY HOUR 🗣️💥
Nintendo’s been sleeping on all the non-Mario Mario spin-offs for a while, Yoshi, Wario, Donkey Kong, with the only exception being Warioware, and even then, it’s nowhere near as good as any of the other series I just mentioned.
@@heihogreenzx4704 wrong but ok
@@BadmanYT-1254 Oh yeah, no money
the new mario and luigi game having the devs of the previous games does show how much theyve developed
Oh, Former AlphaDream devs are working on this? That's so cool to hear!
(Assuming that's what you meant right!)
@@Fatih_M177 yes
@@mattguy1773 Yoooo!
That's so cool to know, and very wholesome too!
@@Fatih_M177I believe it's only "some former members are returning". So we don't really know to what extent, but it's good news regardless.
I don't think the old directors are there though
I think the executives at Nintendo realized they don’t need to have EVERY single Mario game be marketable for plushies. They can just make Mario go into LSD worlds and people will still buy plushies, even if Princess Gwimble of the Honey Donut Kingdom doesn’t get a plushie.
Especially since it being a mario game alone is enough for it being marketable
Okay, but I still want plushies of all these unmarketable weirdoes, even more than the safe, marketized ones.
I would kill for a Prince Florian plushie
10:41 I don't think that's fair to the Superstar Saga remake. Yes, the artsyle isn't the same as the original, but it looks so good in its own right and even has lighting effects which weren't present on the GBA. Though I will admit that the original Bowser's Inside Story looks better than in the remake.
Yeah that was a bit harsh
I think "so good" is a bit much. It looks okay, but it looks smeary and fuzzy while the original sprites popped and felt brighter
@@reilynn7891 Fair enough, if that's your opinion.
The Superstar Saga remake sadly removed too many original characters. The Koopa Cruiser crew in their flight suits were removed. The different types of Toads with different heights, body type, male, female, children, were all removed. Same goes for a few unique enemy designs.
That's fair, but I do think visually it's superior to the original and not just because it's on more powerful hardware. I just personally think it looks genuinely better.
1:52
Fun Fact: This game did start off early on as a Mario game before becoming Doki Doki Panic.
Mario 2: USA is also not even a mere reskin of Doki Doki either, it has quite a few tweaks to make itself stand out, which is probably why it was able to see release in japan to begin with.
AND even Doki Doki Panic itself still has overtly Mario things in it, like the POW Block and Starman/Invincibility Star powerup, which were already established Mario elements. Those were not part of the Mario 2 "reskin," they were already in the original Doki Doki Panic game.
"you could not live with your own failure, and where did that lead you? right back to me."
Miyamoto is greatly in shape, AFTER MORE THAN 40 YEARS
I still would've loved if the new M&L game had gone full into entirely hand drawn graphics, really embrace the series' iconic 2D art style.
But I'm just glad we're getting a new M&L game period
Honestly, I'm so hyped to see what they do with the stylized 3D that other games utilise so well.
Being honest, they’re trying something NEW with 3D stuff. It was always only for like giant or papercraft fights, so seeing the alphadream style PERFECTLY REPLICATED IN 3D FULL-PLAYTIME… it’s just pure serotonin to me
They could still do that some other time, but its not a good fit for their first time back from the grave. 2D animation is expensive, especially if you’re trying to match up to such a distinct style. I think the 3D looks great, much like it looked great about a year ago when the same devs did SandLand. They’re breaking new ground in video game stylization and making anime-styled 3D look better and better
It feels great to see Mario is back to being creative again. Whether it was thanks to Mario Wonder or Odyssey, I'm just happy that we have the era of Mario that made it what it was in the first place.
Welcome back Mario and Luigi I miss u.
It looks so unique. The NPCs are not just generic toads. We saw a lot of new characters in the trailer
0:12 “All this time,” IS an explanation for why it looks good. Getting one after years after the closure of the original series developer, late in the console’s lifespan and within a year of remakes of two other classic Mario games of the same genre within a single year is what’s weirder about Brothership.
I don’t know why, but watching this made me emotional lol. Once he started listing all the more recent high points like all the RPGs coming back, I wanted to start cheering and applauding, like “you did it Nintendo, you got this”
Ive gotten so excited for every single one of the new games, like jamboree, wonder, the mario rpg, thousand year door, and especially the new entry to mario and luigi, that im super excited for whats upcoming
4:04 Hey plumber boy, moustache man, your worst nightmare has arrived.
I damaged my lungs whenever I saw the new Mario and Luigi because I shouted to hard
I damn near almost cried. Also the reveal was on my birthday so that was nice :)
I would've damaged my lungs but my family was home, do I just cried tears of joy instead
I hurt my eyes 🥲
I just cried in joy and disbelief
I was in literal self doubt until I saw the title of the game
Mario RPG coming back is the crazyer addition
The irony of this being uploaded right as Mario + Rabbids’ director left Ubisoft isn’t lost on me.
what irony ?
@@star-rock6466 No irony. Just another dim comment
Wait what? NOOOO! I mean, good on him for leaving a company like that I guess, but that's unfortunate in terms of not being able to continue working on the Mario + Rabbids series, which has been great so far. If you're talking about the guy I'm thinking of, then Mario + Rabbids was literally his passion project, his baby, so if he's gone that's just sad both for him and for the series. But on the other hand...Ubisoft is Ubisoft so, can't blame him.
@@star-rock6466 It being a source of Mario returning to his world’s weirdness & us probably not getting another game.
16:30
At least we got Banjo-Kazooie back on Switch.
If you’re like me and like to imagine that series is still a part of the official Mario universe.
I agree with most of what you said, but galaxy 2 is not as bad as you make it out to be. I actually like galaxy 2 more than 1.
I thank Miyamoto for working on the movie. Maybe that made him release the strange hold he had with the series saying "no new characters in Paper Mario", which could be translated to "keep it safe, guys"
That's kind of misconception. Miyamoto stated that more as a suggestion, so they didn't have to listen to it. Infact Miyamoto found Sticker star to be boring as well.
@@spyrothegamer2131 I mean, if I am well versed in Japanese corporate culture, suggestion from your boss is basically an order. The same happens in South Korea
@@EduardoFlores-bt4fothis^^^
coorporate power dynamics are incredibly unhealthy in east asian culture. china japan south korea ETC. made especially bad with the extremely non confrontational culture in those areas.
@@knopfir Which is actually pretty absent from Nintendo, so it was taken too seriously as a force of habit. Nintendo may be extremely strict when it comes to fair use, but they’re a nice place to work for. That’s a sacrifice that seems worth it in this day and age of gaming companies abusing their employees.
"I suggest you get that 300 mil on my desk by the end of the week, buddy."
Can you imagine the hype behind a legit Mario and Sonic crossover? It would be insane.
(Not including Smash or the Olympics games no one cares about)
Still can't belivee we live in a timeline where mario and the RABBIDS of all game franchises have a crossover game with a story while mario and sonic have yet to have a proper crossover
When I first saw the Mario Wonder trailer in my recommended, I was so sure it had to be a spinoff. It's like 2D Mario, but with some kind of "Wonder" gimmick to make it a fun side adventure to compliment the usual format. When I watched the trailer and had the realization that no, this is actually a brand new main series 2D Mario game with its own full identity for the first time since New Super Mario Bros. and with an insane new gimmick with the Wonder Flower, I was over the moon. Although I've gotten accustomed to it now, first playing the game and seeing all those changes to the animation, music, level design and environments on top of charming little additions as simple as the drumroll on the ground pound, it felt like an absolute fever dream. It was the most refreshing thing ever after nothing but New Super Mario Bros. for literally my entire gaming life.
If I see "Mario is Missing" referenced I have to give a thumbs up.
Anyone who suffered through renting that game for the weekend as a kid knows the pain that game inflicted.
The amount of charm we’ve gotten from recent games only makes me fear that someday we’ll get another period in gaming like the 2010s
I believe Good-Feel is likely behind Brothership judging by how Luigi's model looks very similar to the one they designed for Dream Teams Giant Battles.
Galaxy 2 is GOATED
Something else I’d like to point out is that sparks of hope (the sequel to Mario+Rabbids) Completely innovated on what the first game. I loved the first game so much and sparks of hope came in, destroyed it all, and reinvented it in way that I enjoyed more. Absolutely amazing game, would recommend.
Hard disagree on most of the Mario and Luigi stuff
Edit: what Im referring to is that the later M&L games are all still really great. They're just not AS great as they could have been. Even Paper Jam is still a super solid game. And he makes it sound like remaking superstar saga was some lazy choice, but I think it was the best move given the limitations they were put under.
Then why comment?
And 3d land
Especially dream team and dx superstar saga
Let me guess, you hate the new art style?
@@NickMario1He probably could have worded it better, but I think what he he meant is that Delzethin kind of trashed on Dream Team and the Superstar Saga remake, which was uncalled for as those games are really good.
I don't even think Paper Jam is that bad of a game despite undoubtedly being the worst in the series, but Delzethin didn't give it any credit where it was due.
I wouldn't actually call Mario games "weird", per say. I'd imagine cartoony, innovative, and unpredictable in a good way at times. Like, in a place like the Mushroom Kingdom, it's a new adventure, you don't know what to expect.
But, we've all have a consensus that the "New" era was a drag, creative-wise. The same old, same old assets bled through into the games, and lost it's pizazz. It's about time Nintendo noticed.
Super Mario Bros. Wonder is straight-up weird. It's Mario on drugs.
DK being MIA and the Sports games barring Aces having a severe lack of content are probably the main problems with Mario in the Switch era.
Mainly because Tropical freeze was on the poorly sold Wii U, and just like with Mario Kart and a few others, they decided to bring it to the switch so those who missed out on the Wii U would not miss out on its DK game, and it was already too late to make a new one, they’re probably just developing a new one ready for the next console, same with Mario Kart, and don’t say Mario Kart 9, MK Tour was 9, after the disaster that was Mario Party 9, WE DONT WANT 2 NUMBER NINES.
@@olliedownie190Damn right, we want 2 number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, 2 number 45s, one with cheese and a large soda 👀
...I'll see myself out
@@felps_4500 TF
@@olliedownie190 Exactly
@@olliedownie190TF
It's all Miyamoto and his lack of, then overabundance, then lack of involvement.
Miyamoto was usually pretty hands off with Mario development outside of an executive producer role for the most part once we got into the 3D era. He only started getting more involved around the time Sticker Star and NSMBWii happened, and kept his fingers in the pies all throughout until the Mario Movie started production, then that's where his main focus went, as well as Splatoon and other Nintendo IP, which is why we're getting this Mario Renaissance.
Respect the man for what he started, but the less involved he is with the games, the better.
I got sentient sometime around 3d land release and I was so confused why the internet was negative towards what I think is the coolest looking game ever
Man you've got the voice of a narrator. Great video!
You sound kind of like Garfield ngl 😂
12:54 missed oportunity to say switched
I feel like you can do a great norm macdonald impression. Great video btw!
start of 2022: Two Mario RPGs on Switch (not counting NSO)
*blinks*
end of 2024: Six Mario RPGs on Switch
yet I never seen mario plumbing in games
As someone who grew up with the late 2000s-2017 Mario I’m so happy the old Mario is back
This is the first video I ever watched form u. And I could not get Garfield out of my head.
Another great video from you, it's always nice to hear you analyze and discuss things of this nature. Mario's back on track, and we're all better for it.
I'm admittedly not sure how much you could do with this suggestion, but I figure I can throw it out there anyway, since I think it would make for a good discussion. It's been over a year since the release of The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom, and from what I've been able to see, there's a growing schism between fans who want the Wild era and its trends to continue versus the fans who want Zelda to head back to more traditional territory. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts about it, as well as what you'd like to see in a new 3D Zelda.
ToTK released?
i've been in the 2nd camp since BOTW released (never liked it, tbh)
I really don't understand why the M&L remakes are always grouped with the Wii U era sections of videos like this when they came out during the Switch era, and while they were on the 3DS and sadly had their drawbacks from the financial struggles of AlphaDream, I really don't think they're the blemish in Mario's history that they're usually framed as. I was over the moon in 2017 when Superstar Saga was coming back, one of my favorite Mario RPGs returning was just as huge to me as Odyssey. 2015 Nintendo would have never. Superstar Saga is one of the weirdest Mario games in history, so is Bowser's Inside Story. The fact that they were able to come back with a modern coat of paint at all is indicative of the shift toward embracing the less conventional side of the Mario series imo. It's just a shame they flopped due to AlphaDream lacking the budget to make them Switch games or reuse less assets. But for what they were they are absolutely part of the Switch's renaissance rather than the Wii U's safeness.
Yeah I’m glad the Mario Franchise nowadays is mostly experimental again like the 2000s, being a Mario fan in 2010-2016 was kinda boring in a way with how bland and sterilized most of the games were besides some. All we need now is a new Mario kart game, new 3D Mario game and for the sports games to be good again and the Mario franchise is set for life! 😎
Jeez are the NSMB games that bad I mean sure graphically there a little samey but those games were actually a huge part of my childhood and were one of the first video games I’ve ever played and time by time I like pop in a NSMB game if I’m feeling nostalgia.
With that said though I am glad that the Mario series is being more creative with the platformers lately (I don’t really care for the RPG spinoffs) because as much nostalgia I have for NSMB games I think it’s the platformers got a revamped in creativity.
Do you think nintendo should try making a mario game based on the mario movie, that be interesting
@@jskywalker58 Personally I really don’t think we need a game based on that Mario movie because if being honest I found that movie pretty mediocre and forgettable mainly due to the story being pretty bare bones and sure Mario games aren’t really known for plot but this is film the games don’t have plots because it’s gameplay first and story last but with a film you need an interesting story for the film to keep your audience interested.
Also Illumination’s involvement in this film does show with their being jokes that don’t always land, reused character models and side characters (Luma) that are only there to look cute and marketable towards kids but doesn’t serve anything to the film but to be fair compared Illumination’s previous films it’s not near as bad as their other films but it is still noticeable.
Overall the Mario movie isn’t bad but pretty mediocre so no I personally don’t think Nintendo should not make a game based on the recent film.
The movie gave Mario a lot of momentum, and I think Nintendo was smart for turning up the weird to make they captured the attention of the new generation who saw the movie with their parents. Glad they're being clever again!
Hard work to believe Nintendo finally broke away from soup
I wonder what’s next for Mario in the Next Era
If Mario used to be Nintendo's avant-garde up until galaxy 1, I guess we can call this Nintendo's neo-avant-garde
6:50 this doesn't seem fair to Galaxy 2. The entire point of the ending of Galaxy 1 was that the universe had been reset, and Bowser's plan was altered just slightly so that in the new timeline, those events wouldn't happen again. Galaxy 2 is quite literally what happens instead of the first game in the current timeline, and it's clear only Mario and Rosalina survive and remember the first game because the Lumas protected them.
Mario feels like a true individual identity rather than an icon again, and I can’t wait to see if they stay in this renaissance or if they fall back. You got this, Mario! Roll Roll Roll!
(rolls into bargain bin)
10:57 I’m pretty sure it was Alphadream’s decision to remake Inside Story, not Nintendo’s. Alphadream were on the brink of bankruptcy so in a last ditch attempt for some cash, they remade Inside Story because they thought it would guarantee some extra money as it was the fan favourite.
This is also probably the reason they skipped over remaking Partners in Time. Even though it was the next game chronologically, it just didn't have the same universal praise that Inside Story did, making it risky as that quick cash flow they wanted wouldn't be guaranteed with a less popular game.
I highly doubt that the developers made the decision instead of the publishers. That's not how things work. At best, the developers can pitch the idea, but it's ultimately Nintendo's decision
Always glad to know Norm Macdonald is as big of a fan of the Mario games as I am!
Honestly.. these last years have been the time where I've bought and Played the least amount of Mario games in my entire life, and it is not for lack of time or money.
Remakes to games I've already played aside, they've done nothing particularly interesting or new. A few visual upgrades and gimmicky gameplay additions are not enough for me to care.
I know they’re hated, but…
I love the NSMB games. All of them.
(Of course I love the more unique ones as well)
I'm honestly surprised that the Mario and Luigi franchise is getting a second chance at life in general. I thought that this series was buried and forgotten after AlphaDream went under. The fact that it's getting a sequel, and it looks amazing, and the franchise is fully 3D for the first time is so exciting.
We all thought Super Mario RPG was dead and buried too
@@cleverman383I don't get the hype over a damn remake that no one's gonna pick up the next time they go to gamestop 🙄
I can't wait to see a Paper Mario game in this environment.
As I said in a Discord server "Thanks to the Mario movie, The RPGS don't have to suck anymore.
This was a great video. Not much else to say, you summed up everything pretty nicely. Hopefully this creative era for Mario is here to stay.
I'm just hoping Super Paper Mario makes a return.
Sure, its different from the first 2 games, but Its still a great game with a Killer story
And maybe also a New, Massive Punch-out game Featuring Characters from Wii, SPO or even the arcade games! And there's also room for Existing Nintendo Characters to make an appearance like DK did in Wii's Last stand!
There's just so much possibility with this new era! The newest games like Wonder, Party Superstars and TTYD remake, there just seems to be no limit on how the original concepts would be refined!
Theres a theory that the success of the movie from last year had something to do with it. Notice all of the new games discussed are post-movie?
15:39 He's talking about "the best visuals" yet you can literally see Peach's stop keyframes between each animation type.
no you cant
He was talking about Luigi's Mansion 3
Omg i cant wait for m&l brothership
I'd like to think it's a mix of both Nintendo pandering to casuals and wanting to prioritize merchandise sales over anything else. Whenever a franchise becomes big enough, the merchandise sales are prioritized first and foremost over the actual product the merch is made for, and the quality ends up plummeting as a result. This is very evident with Pokemon and Sonic, and Mario fell into that trap for quite some time.
It does feel Mario is going in the right direction though, especially since Nintendo's main competitors are starting to stagnate themselves with "games" that prioritize graphics over gameplay and are little more than overglorified, overpriced, and overly long CGI movies that make you wonder why Pixar and Dreamworks aren't doing the same.
It’s cuz I started playing them.
thank you for saving the Mario franchise, maxgreen5675!❤❤
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Great video! Just arrived into this delicious channel.
Great video. Love your voice. I never considered that all three of Mario's RPGs are revived for Switch- that is crazy indeed!
I hope Pokemon is getting the same rout as Mario reinventing and bring new idea with smooth grafic and quality only Nintendo can give birth period
First video of yours I’ve watched, it’s a good one, although all I can think of is that you sound like Garfield
Just wanna point out that mp superstar was an incredibly safe game and that's why it worked in the same way that Mario bros wii worked so it's weird to call over positively by saying it returned to its roots when that's exactly what the other did
easy: designers got a new supplier of mushrooms
now it’s my mom’s time to say “are the developers on drugs?”
Nature is healing.
2:31 Ah, so you must see what I mean if you included a clip, above a certain point it becomes impossible to understand what it is trying to display, becoming little more than a mess of pixels, it's quite an achievement they managed to do it at all, but it's completely unplayable at least for me personally, I'm not very good at comprehension of visual things and the illusion of 3d graphics in games in general has never been very effective, but a very pixelated version of this illusion is even worse. I frankly think it would have been better for some people if they just did it from a top-down view.
Is it just me or does 16:20 3D all stars sound off.
This video is really good though and a great retrospective on Mario.
Yeah, there's definitely a weird voice cut there. Editing issue?
3d land is a masterpiece
Good video, thanks, audio gets a little distorted at higher volumes though.
Sarsaland and Teaches Typing returns?
Sidenote: this feels like seeing a famous 80's avant-prog band gradually shift to a stale pop rock group before hitting hard by making an album reminiscent of their even more aggressive early 70's years.
Where did you find the font for the chapter titles?
correlation does not equal causation: the video
Boy were the 2010s so safe sterilized and boring
The 2000s was fun and experimental, the 2020s seem to be getting experimental again while bringing back beloved classics in the form of remakes and compilations.
2010s in general was just a bland and sterilized era for many things in media tbh.
@@brandonwilliams6119 3d land in s still goat
I disagree, but I’ve said why so many times.
I’m really hoping to see a Super Paper Mario port to Switch or the next gen console.
Great retrospective, the future is looking bright.
Weird = good!
Eh. I kind of disagree. I greatly enjoy all the NSMB games except 2, and that’s just because I haven’t played 2, so I’m not passing judgement until I manage to do so. Meanwhile, when I played Wonder, I felt kinda disappointed and unsatisfied because the really solid gameplay and flow just felt either absent or off, and many things felt put in the game just for the sake of it as opposed to actually building on it. Levels felt too short without the wonder effects, but a good chunk of the wonder effects felt like fluff. I don’t hate Wonder, I don’t even dislike it at all, I still think it’s decent, but I was rather disappointed with the actual gameplay, ranging from the levels, to the challenges, to the powerups, to the badges, and especially the bosses.
@@heihogreenzx4704 nsmb was repetitive, but it can still be weird. The tierlist would probably be 1 at first, U at second, Wii at third and 2 at last. (Not saying Wii is bad by any means though since it had the best bowser bossfight)
I think that Nintendo’s and SEGA’s (when they try) absurdity with their games is what makes them so good and stand out from the cesspool of fps and rpgs we’ve been drowned with in the last decade
Some may call it weird,but I say they got creative again.
Paper Mario The Origami King didn't work that well but it was an absolute blast to play
Mario is becoming creative and experimental again!
edit: the nintendo 64 is more powerful then you think, mario 64 is very unoptimized and somebody on youtube is making a fan game that runs on more then 30 fps on native 64 hardware and it’s also a mario 64 fan game.
Did he still never made a Shantae for Smash Moveset video?
I’m still always gonna be more impressed with Paper Mario’s remake to Mario and Luigi’s comeback. Just because Mario and Luigi always had the chance to return, but I assumed Nintendo was gonna be bull headed in how they approached Paper Mario. Here’s hoping they can both coexist as RPGs again, and that Paper Mario can retain what works from both the modern era and the classic titles.
Also, DK has been pretty dormant, but everyone pretty much knows about the Donkey Kong Freedom game that was cancelled. Yoshi… is weird, those games I swear just materialize since they just happen whenever. But where is a Woolly World Switch port?
And speaking of where- Where the heck is Wario Land? Ware is cool, but Land has been MIA for so long.
But all this aside, I’m happy for the future of Mario. The next 3D game is an exciting prospect, we’re back to not knowing what 2D Mario will do, a new Mario Kart sounds good, Mario RPGs are in a hopeful spot (even if TTYD still concerns me if they’ll backpedal after it), I’m pretty confident DK will return in full force on the next console, and in general Mario is weird and fun again.
…And Yoshi’s still just gonna continue to happen at random points. No disrespect to Yoshi or his series’ fans, the Yoshi games just kinda never get big talk or hype from what I hear.
And who knows where other secondary characters will go, Luigi getting more Mansion titles aside.
800 likes, let me fix that
Waluigi should have his own game.
I LOVE A WEIRD MARIO YES LIKE SUNSHINE OR IDK JUST WEIRD BUT THAY PLAYS GOOD 👍
Don't play it safe Nintendo!!!
If only Sonic Team embraced Sonic's "weird" look & world, too. DAMN YOU, SEGA/SONIC TEAM!!!! 😭 😭 😭
I don't think that applies into Sonic, Sonic games in 2010s are filled with Wacky and weird locations, Colors has a colorful and great art direction, same goes to Lost World which is full of colorful and wacky stages, and even Sonic Forces is like that, some of the games may just not be good, like Forces isn't
What I WOULD agree if that comment was made during the 2010s is that they forgot the seriousness and coolness of the 2000s entries, but as I said, I WOULD've agreed, but they also seem to be changing and embracing that part as well recently with games such as Sonic Frontiers and Sonic x Shadow Generations, not only that but they also seem to be returning into a good era for the games with them being fun
@@ThisisTheUltimate Sure. I'll give it to you that Sonic Lost worlds in-game esthetic is a step in the right direction, but the game was very uninspired & forces was even worse. There is a clear difference between Sonic Generation's Level design & forces' level design. Frontiers definitely drops the ball. The creativity just isn't there.
I got a Nintendo ad when I clicked on this 😭 😭
I hate these godamn Switch online ads tbh, I don't hate Nintendo, I just think these ads are getting annoying.
19:17 what is the song called?
i feel like those mario and luigi remakes should have been on the switch
I will play Mario and Luigi until I die 😂
Hey! Mario is Missing was fun! But you do kinda have a point.
I still remember how Sticker Star was so poorly received. That I remember many who used to hate on Super Paper Mario. We’re suddenly lumping it with “The good old days” of Paper Mario.
It said a lot. Considering how stubborn millennial gamers could be, back then
4:12 No, cartridges will always be better than discs.