Toyota RAV 4 Hybrid - Real-Life Fuel Economy-Test done by a professional Ecodriver

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  • Опубліковано 13 гру 2024

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  • @arinagriese251
    @arinagriese251 3 роки тому +10

    Thanks for setting this up in english now!

  • @bho6486
    @bho6486 3 місяці тому +2

    That is incredible. We have a 2021 Toyota Venza hybrid with the 2.5L engine. After 3 years, we are averaging 5.9 L/100km and we're ecstatic.

  • @elisabettaluciani9080
    @elisabettaluciani9080 2 роки тому +1

    I picked up my new RAV4 yesterday and your videos are helping me a lot!

    • @ecodriver1746
      @ecodriver1746  2 роки тому +3

      Glad to help, I am sure you'll enjoy your RAV 4!

  • @kixxoff928
    @kixxoff928 Рік тому +3

    My experience is this: Conditions: driving in a flat east/northern country (no mountains), 50 km/h in the city, 90-100 outside city. Driving style - normal.
    Total average consumption after 4 years: 6.75 liters/100km (34.84 mpg).
    I’m not sure if 4 liters is realistic in the long run.

  • @candicerenn4783
    @candicerenn4783 2 роки тому +1

    That sure is a nice view. Beautiful day.

    • @ecodriver1746
      @ecodriver1746  2 роки тому +1

      Indeed it is. From spring there will be a new categorie of videos with an even more stunning view... ;)

  • @Csubakka1
    @Csubakka1 2 роки тому +2

    Actually useful and reliable data. Thank you very much! We are in the process of replacing our family car, a 10y old diesel Avensis estate. Not that it has any problems, its a very reliable Toyota diesel, it's just getting old, and also its an EURO5 engine... I was looking at many different cars, and somehow always end up looking at a RAV4. I don't really like PHEV-s, the extra cost of the vehicle will never return, and i cant afford a full electric in the size that i would need for my family (VW ID4 or Skoda Enyak). So thanks again!

    • @ecodriver1746
      @ecodriver1746  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you! With a Toyota normally you can't go wrong, as their reliability is the best in the market and their HSG-hybrid drivetrain is probably the most efficient out there.

    • @prodandragos
      @prodandragos 2 роки тому +1

      It's a genuine car all-around. I own one since '19 and there is not a single goddamn thing I don't like about it. It's fast, spacious, and can be very eco if you listen to her. This car is a cruiser. You can drive it for miles and don't get tired. It's a car made for American Market, not for Europe. If you like these kind of cruisers than go test one.

  • @dambo8416
    @dambo8416 Рік тому

    I’m averaging about 55-60mpg. Unbelievably good.

  • @wingovertd
    @wingovertd 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you for the video, very well accurate! Next time please incude highway driving at 120km/130km. Which is the normal speed whenwe travel far distance in europe.

    • @ecodriver1746
      @ecodriver1746  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks, you're welcome. Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your point of view), in the area where I live there is a restriction to 100 kms on the motorway (as it is on most parts of western Austria).

    • @kabukidreamboy
      @kabukidreamboy Рік тому

      @@ecodriver1746 that's crazy to have those restrictions! We shouldn't let the enviroMENTAList idiots rule our lives:-)

  • @francescos6101
    @francescos6101 Рік тому +2

    just one simple quest , i didnt understood if this was the model 197 cv ore the 222 cv , and more , was 2 or 4 WD ?? tHANKS SO MUCH IF YOU WILL ANSWER

    • @mucmac3586
      @mucmac3586 3 місяці тому

      if 2wd 219cv, if 4wd 222cv

  • @sebastianyepes8154
    @sebastianyepes8154 2 роки тому +2

    Hi Helmut, one question this RAV4 is AWD 4x4 or the 4x2 ? Thanks for your help and awesome videos

  • @grahampeters9359
    @grahampeters9359 3 роки тому +2

    Excellent item. From two year's experience with a RAV4 hybrid AWD, I can confirm that fuel economy of 4.3 l/100km is plausible. However a major determinant is the usage of ancillaries (lights, air-conditioning and heated seats are notable impacts) and the need for heating of the car. Best economy is achieved in stop-start city driving at about 22C with no air conditioning, no lights and windows or sunroof open.

    • @ecodriver1746
      @ecodriver1746  3 роки тому +2

      With hybrids, once you adapt your driving style you really benefit from this technology.

  • @Ryuganitsu
    @Ryuganitsu Рік тому +1

    Hey, what regenerates better(stronger) the battery, gentle braking or off-throttle deceleration?

  • @francescos6101
    @francescos6101 Рік тому

    Very interesting driving ideas

  • @Munro3157
    @Munro3157 2 роки тому

    Great video, my rav4 arrives next week :)

  • @arthursmith4078
    @arthursmith4078 3 роки тому +1

    You should compare this with the Ford Escape hybrid

    • @ecodriver1746
      @ecodriver1746  3 роки тому +1

      Hi, I've already done this test and the video will be uploaded probably next week, so stay tuned ;)

  • @legendpete8422
    @legendpete8422 3 роки тому +1

    How good is the radar guided cruise control system at maximising the mpg? Does it still use battery only when it has the opportunity?

    • @ecodriver1746
      @ecodriver1746  3 роки тому +3

      I am not a Fan of Radar Guided CC when it comes to eco-driving, as they basically just react to the car in front of you, whereas a good driver looks much further ahead and can avoid a lot of braking by adjusting the speed sooner.

  • @TheTitom974
    @TheTitom974 Рік тому +1

    great job

  • @Princejamyute
    @Princejamyute 2 роки тому +1

    @EcoDriver I just subscribed and I absolutely love your videos. I drive over 650 km to work each week and my gas bill is going through the roof. I am at the point of buying a hybrid vehicle but I need the best value for my hard earned cash. I am thinking of the 2023 HRV hybrid or the 2023 Rav4 Hybrid. I live in the Caribbean (Jamaica) and my local Honda dealer wont get the 2023 CRV until late 2023. I cant wait that long. I like both vehicles however I have been doing my research online and a number of customers have been complaining about the Rav4 hybrid pump corrosion issues.
    Can you advise me in making my decision please? Much appreciated.

    • @ecodriver1746
      @ecodriver1746  2 роки тому +3

      Hi, for efficiency reasons I'd always go with a RAV4. I spoke to a Toyota Mechanic yesterday and he is not aware of any problems with the hybrid pump. Maybe it is different near the sea due to high salt in the air.
      Hondas are also very reliable, I think at the end it depends on your priorities. Personally I'd go with the Toyota.

    • @Princejamyute
      @Princejamyute 2 роки тому

      @@ecodriver1746 Thanks much for the feedback. I think I will go with the 2023 Hybrid. It has pretty much all the modern features in addition to the 53-55 mpg which is way superior to the Rav4's 40-42 mpg.

    • @Arseni-f2b
      @Arseni-f2b Рік тому

      Just got 23 rav4 hybrid limited and I get avg 30.4 mpg cuz I use heat, without heat I get 35.6 mpg mix. This video guy doesn’t use heat😊

  • @chriselson7413
    @chriselson7413 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent explanation 👌

  • @dimitryriz2255
    @dimitryriz2255 Рік тому

    I can't believe in it. Crazy numbers. Just got my 1st hybrid( lexus nx 350h ) should be quitesimilarto rav4 . Will try.
    But I doubt i can get same numbers as you 🤔.

  • @chriselson7413
    @chriselson7413 2 роки тому +1

    Hope to see how the new European Toyota Corolla cross with 2.0 litre engine, if its between this and the yaris cross I'd certainly be interested! Thumbs up great videos 👍

    • @ecodriver1746
      @ecodriver1746  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks! Once the Corolla X is available I'll get one!

    • @chriselson7413
      @chriselson7413 2 роки тому

      @@ecodriver1746 Excellent Sir 👌

  • @VyacheslavTkachuk
    @VyacheslavTkachuk 2 роки тому +2

    Hi Helmut! I wonder if HVAC was on during your test. I am driving RAV4 hybrid in Lviv, Ukraine, doing a daily commute of 12 km. I found that at temperatures 0-5 C HVAC has a huge impact on petrol consumption: I am averaging 8.5 L/100km in eco mode (cold start, hilly road).

    • @ecodriver1746
      @ecodriver1746  2 роки тому +5

      Hi Vyacheslav, outside temperatures were 18 degrees on average for this test, AC was on, normally I set it to 21 degrees. I was testing the Yaris Cross Hybrid at 5 degrees outside with heating set to 18 degrees and I consumed 3,7 l/100 km on this loop. Heating from a start in the cold means that the petrol engine needs to run much more or almost always in order to produce the heat. I start my tests with an already warm engine, as I need to drive the cars from the dealers to my place before I start the test.

    • @peterfrolo2853
      @peterfrolo2853 2 роки тому +1

      @@ecodriver1746 The heating is only done via excess heat from combustion engine? Heating cannot be done via electric heater & battery?

    • @ecodriver1746
      @ecodriver1746  2 роки тому +1

      @Peter Frolo correct. Battery has way too little capacity for heating (ca. 0,8 kWh net)

    • @peterfrolo2853
      @peterfrolo2853 2 роки тому +1

      @@ecodriver1746 I see. But, if I went for the heated seats, instead of regular HVAC heating, that would only consume electricity, not GAS right? (Yes, I know .. when electricity is used from battery, combustion engine will kick in and charge the battery).

    • @ecodriver1746
      @ecodriver1746  2 роки тому +2

      Correct, although heated seats won't be able to replace HVAC... ;)

  • @averyj8160
    @averyj8160 2 роки тому +1

    Hope you’ll do a Toyota 2.0 CHR and a Honda HRV hybrid in the future.

    • @ecodriver1746
      @ecodriver1746  2 роки тому +1

      I've already done the CHR, which will come within the next two weeks and the HRV is agreed with the dealer, probably will come in late April.

  • @a.hoxhalli
    @a.hoxhalli 2 роки тому +2

    I am wondering to change my 2020 mercedes diesel motor, rreally good car and consum is rreally low on it is going max 5 l for 100 on the city. I think to change to hybrid or plugg hybrid . The most of the time i drive short distance like 10 or max 15 km go to work and back. That i think is not good for diesel motor because i must drive about half way with cold motor or i need to wait to warm upp than before. What is your advice keep it or change, if the second any rekommendation, thank you.

    • @ecodriver1746
      @ecodriver1746  2 роки тому +1

      From a pure driving-efficiency, ecological and wear-prospective a Diesel is the worst for short city-trips. The question is whether the cost for changing is worth it.

    • @a.hoxhalli
      @a.hoxhalli 2 роки тому

      @@ecodriver1746 thank you for your response

    • @agpawpaw5912
      @agpawpaw5912 Рік тому +1

      You will need all that distance to warm up hybrid too, almost as your diesel, than you will see that high mpg. I’m driving same distance to work as you, even look like hybrid already hot, for some reason mpg still very low for next few miles. Even when worm outside, still hard to achieve 50 mpg (US) on 2016 Toyota Prius. On travels over 50 miles, avoiding highways, I can make almost 70 mpg, again it’s only when temperatures outside 20-25 degrees Celsius. Don’t listen to anybody, short trips not good for any car. If you so worry about environment, than don’t change your car as well, to make batteries for hybrid, manufacture produce same pollution as your diesel over life time, probably even more, because you don’t drive a lot.
      I use to have 2004 VW Jetta wagon diesel, on one road, with hilly terrains I was getting 60 mpg, using as much kinetic energy, as I can, unfortunately I never was able to achieve that numbers on same rout with my 2010 Prius, 52-54 mpg was my best.

  • @martingadsby3934
    @martingadsby3934 Рік тому

    I have ordered the Renault arkana hybrid 145, after getting 70mpg (uk) on the test drive, hopefully made the right choice. Any thoughts?

  • @stevehall5863
    @stevehall5863 2 роки тому +1

    Is there any way to tell when you are on the hybrid battery mode, or if the hybrid battery is flat when first starting out on your journey?

    • @ecodriver1746
      @ecodriver1746  2 роки тому +2

      In EV-Mode there is no engine noise and a green symbol on the dashboard, which says EV.
      There's also a setting which shows the state of charge of the battery.

    • @frankvilla1012
      @frankvilla1012 2 роки тому

      @@ecodriver1746 i have a 2019 Rav4 hybrid and it seems i can't get it to recharge fully it always stops two bars before, should i be worried?

  • @germantobon5498
    @germantobon5498 2 роки тому +1

    What about downshifting to keep the speed low instead on braking on the downhill ?

    • @ecodriver1746
      @ecodriver1746  2 роки тому +1

      With a hybrid you waste kinetic energy, as then the engine does (a bit) of braking and not the electric motor (with Toyota Hybrids if you are in B downhill the engine starts), so there's no or less regen. Once the battery is full or the regenerative capacity of the electric motor is exceeded the petrol engine will kick in to support anyway.

    • @germantobon5498
      @germantobon5498 2 роки тому +1

      @@ecodriver1746 thanks for the reply, I guess what I would like to know is, when does my brake pressure become too much and the brake pads start working and heating, rather than the gas engine helping with deceleration.
      I live in a mountainous country.

  • @alfontana6242
    @alfontana6242 2 роки тому +1

    Hello Helmut from the U.S.A. state of Oregon. My wife and I just ordered a 2022 Toyota RAV 4 Prime (the plug in model). Will you be doing a test on that vehicle perhaps with a full battery on just electric, and once the battery is empty just on gas? Keep up the good work you are doing. By the way regular gasoline here, 87 octane, is about $4.00 US dollar for a US gallon.

    • @ecodriver1746
      @ecodriver1746  2 роки тому +2

      Hi, I'm supposed to get the RAV4 Plug-In Hybrid soon, unfortunately Austria is way down on the list with the market launch of this car. I do the tests of PHEVs the way you suggest anyway, first an electric range test and then an efficiency test with empty battery.
      For an Atkinson-Motor like you'll have in the RAV4 low Octane like 87 is perfect. We only have 95 and up here.

    • @alfontana6242
      @alfontana6242 2 роки тому +1

      @@ecodriver1746 Thanks Helmut, looking forward for your review. The regular RAV 4 Hybrid AWD you reviewed got exceptional MPG, I'm sure the Prime will be pretty close.

    • @ecodriver1746
      @ecodriver1746  2 роки тому +1

      I'm convinced with empty battery I get a better consumption than with the regular hybrid, as I did with Ford Kuga/Escape, due to the batteries higher capacity and the chance to get more regen-energy in at the descent.

    • @alfontana6242
      @alfontana6242 2 роки тому

      @@ecodriver1746 i agree. We have a 2016 Chevrolet Volt. When the battery is depleted and operating just on gasoline when going down a steep grade the battery keeps on gaining electricity during regeneration. Most hybrids have a small battery pack and normally the battery then is completely filled during the downgrade before you reach the bottom. That extra electricity that could have been gained could possibly take you a mile or even more without any gasoline consumption.

  • @Colonel_Mar
    @Colonel_Mar Рік тому

    @ Ecodriver Thank you for your video, for a 2 weeks old rav4 ltd at 700 km, is it normal to have only 8.3 liters per killometer? I have mixed city and highway driving.

    • @sinphus
      @sinphus 9 місяців тому

      break in period, or is your economy still that bad?

    • @Colonel_Mar
      @Colonel_Mar 9 місяців тому +1

      Hi, it's okay now, after 6 months or 6k miles odo. My mileage improved to 19 kmpl.

  • @fredEVOIX
    @fredEVOIX 6 місяців тому

    How to Get Better Gas Mileage out of your Toyota and Lexus Hybrid from care care nut ,this Toyota technician pretty much sold me the car he explains how to get the best mileage and how regenerative braking works, while I'm at it really everyone check the 60-100kph and 80-120kph of the rav4 versus whatever you are looking at, throttle response in every day driving of toyota is litterally 2x better than most competitors thus they might have better fuel economy because they are horribly slow...like a 60hp petrol engine bad while the rav4 is close to my 350hp sportscar...

  • @frankvilla1012
    @frankvilla1012 2 роки тому

    I have a 2019 Rav4 hybrid and can't seem to get it to fully charge it always stops two bars before, should i be worried?

    • @ecodriver1746
      @ecodriver1746  2 роки тому +3

      No, not really. It only charges up completely on longer descents. With regular driving in the flat it never does to protect the battery.

  • @bertuncaydin
    @bertuncaydin 2 роки тому +1

    How is road noise or wind ?

    • @ecodriver1746
      @ecodriver1746  2 роки тому +1

      I find it a bit louder as lets say the Mazda CX-5, but not disturbing, although I only went 100 kph Max.

  • @thanos92
    @thanos92 2 роки тому +1

    this is the awd version or fwd ?

  • @TheMustangForce
    @TheMustangForce 8 місяців тому

    I would love if someone could answer me more information about this car. Since no real data online will show us actual fuel consumption on the highway where speeds are much more than 100kmh. In otger countries average speed is 120 or 130kmh. What is the consumption in that case? I see people say 7l some say 9 on 130kmh i would very much like to know if someone who owns this cars can give me some numbers

    • @Jonsk111
      @Jonsk111 8 місяців тому

      You can always drive slower if there is left lane available

    • @fredEVOIX
      @fredEVOIX 6 місяців тому

      don't have it not like I tried I went to a dealership said I had the cash to sign and take the car in stock...seller cared zero I left pretty sure in the USA the guy would have ran behind me and grab my arm to sign a contract...sorry had to vent my frustration this video Toyota RAV4 Hybrid (2019) - consumption at 130 km/h shows 6.3l/100 now it's probably on a very flat highway, I'm still on a 2.3l turbo petrol engine but even I go from 9.5 on hills or mountains to 8.3 so I would assume 6-8 keep in mind it's a large square SUV if you read reviews they talk about wind noise...that's the air wall braking the car and that's no good for fuel economy there's a reason sporstcars are slim hybrid can't beat reality (giant suv ev are the dumbest thing ever) before you looks elsewhere I suggest you check the alternative cars 60-100 80-120 because most are atrocious...two times slower than toyota hybrids from 3.5 to 6.6 on a subaru forester or ford kuga I looked hard for a hybrid (non plugin) suv rav4 is unbeatable engine response fuel economy..if you want a 2x slower car plenty of them around

    • @TheMustangForce
      @TheMustangForce 5 місяців тому

      ​@@Jonsk111
      That is not really a helpfull advice. Ofc the car will spend less fuel if i drive slowly. In case of this video driving trough Austria is on some roads limited to 100kmh. While in other parts 130kmh is the limit. I wont drive so slow that im getting passed by big trucks just to get better economy. This video shows this car having amazing fuel economy on 100kmh (aka 5.0l/100kmh) no other video tells what is the fuel consumption on normal highways in europe. Where normal cruising speed is around 120-130kmh. All i see everyone driving the same speed on highway 90kmh up unto 105kmh and then saying it has a great economy. Or they drive top speed on Autobahn where the consumption jumps to 20 liters. Its unrealistic in most cases to drive that slow or fast on a highway (at least where i come from). This information ia very important to me since i make around 15000km yearly on highways so naturally i want every single piece of info i can get. It is also important to me since i want to move from diesel to hybrid and while i realise those cant measure up with the diesels such as mercedes and audi achieving 5 liters crusing 120kmh. when it comes to economy i wpuld love to have all the numbers i can get.

    • @isezgz
      @isezgz 3 місяці тому

      Look at 1001cars tests

  • @dperisa8757
    @dperisa8757 Рік тому +1

    Do you think that consumption at only 100 kmh on highway is relevant? How about 130 kmh or even a bit more, which is normal on EU highways? Probably 9L resault?

    • @jethushnsithamparanathan3431
      @jethushnsithamparanathan3431 Рік тому

      I own a Corolla Touring Sports with the 2.0 Engine.
      When I Do 130 km/h on the highway, the average consumption was below 6 liter per 100km
      I personaly dont think that the rav will consume 9l. It will be something betwen 6.5 - 8l.

    • @dperisa8757
      @dperisa8757 Рік тому +2

      @@jethushnsithamparanathan3431 That's great, looks like that hybrid system make sense, too bad he didn't test the RAV at that speed..Who's driving only 100 at highways..Hope CVT auto-gearbox has improved too..

    • @jethushnsithamparanathan3431
      @jethushnsithamparanathan3431 Рік тому +1

      @@dperisa8757 I bought the car 1.5 years ago and now drove it nearly 50k kms
      I have nothing to complain about. The CVT is something you have to get used if you never drove one but I like it and the consumption is also good.

    • @fahadmostafa
      @fahadmostafa Рік тому

      @@jethushnsithamparanathan3431Hi, I bought one a couple of months ago. Yes CVT is loud so have to get used to it. However, I wanted to ask about the brakes, mine makes noises when coming to a full stop like magnets and while releasing. I went to the dealer but they said it’s normal. Is that true because that’s very annoying because it is a new car and I usually used to hear that in my old car when the brakes went bad.

    • @jethushnsithamparanathan3431
      @jethushnsithamparanathan3431 Рік тому

      @@fahadmostafa my car makes the same noise. At the beginning it doesnt made the sound but after some time, i had the same Problem like you described.
      But it didnt affect the braking, just the sound is annoying.
      So I didnt make something against it.

  • @jeffnagata416
    @jeffnagata416 2 роки тому +1

    If you plan on selling your Toyota, plan on buyers hesitation on battery condition and if you keep it, the repairs long term would eat up the money saved on gas.

    • @ecodriver1746
      @ecodriver1746  2 роки тому +1

      Ok, I know Taxi-Drivers who use their Toyota Hybrids for 10-15 Years with sometimes over 600.000 kms (370.000 mls) on the clock and are still on the first battery.

    • @jeffnagata416
      @jeffnagata416 2 роки тому

      @@ecodriver1746 if you think you'll keep it 10-15 years only for a 40000 car, then that's great.

    • @Archie6666
      @Archie6666 2 роки тому

      😂 couldn’t get your hands on one hey. Hahaha

    • @jeffnagata416
      @jeffnagata416 2 роки тому

      @@Archie6666 Poor me, I have the adventure and I know if in 10 years I want to sell it to upgrade, people will still want it.

    • @Archie6666
      @Archie6666 2 роки тому

      @@jeffnagata416 lol ok Jeff. The future is electric and hydrogen, not petrol engines. Maybe you will sell your adventure as an antique 😂

  • @peterkk7
    @peterkk7 9 місяців тому

    Is that plugin hybrid?

    • @jozsefgerjak5292
      @jozsefgerjak5292 4 місяці тому

      No, only the normal hybrid.
      2.5l fwd 218 hp

  • @Mr_GiLL83
    @Mr_GiLL83 9 місяців тому +1

    WTF no even complete information about the modal 😢

    • @fractalelf7760
      @fractalelf7760 7 місяців тому +1

      Probably an XSE or XLE, shouldn’t matter unless it’s a Prime.