Testing Our New Yugioh Host by Showing Him Magic Cards
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2024
- Our new Yu-Gi-Oh channel host Taylor joins us on the Magic side of things to see if he can guess whether these cards are beloved by all or pure garbage fire.
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Factual mistake. Sol Ring is restricted but not banned in vintage, which is a 1v1 format.
Great instincts, ask for his input every spoiler season. He’s like the opposite of that dog who predicts every sport championship.
This guy is GOOOD! His analysis and explanations for someone who doesn't play magic are REALLY GOOD!
That just tells you he's good at cardgames
Yep, very good analysis.
@@Oimfielking of card games
For a guy who doesn't play magic, he did it amazingly good. The analysis was spot on.
This guy is insanely sharp at evaluating general card game fundamentals. Not only did he get questions correct but he offered some pretty nuanced analysis on top of that. Good showing!
Funny to point at Hogaak's mana cost when talking about stuff Sol Ring can pay for...
As always, fantastic stuff
Yeah that was a bit of a slip 😅 my bad
Recruit this guy for the magic channel! He is ready!
Part of me likes to think this was part of the interview process or something. The fact that the fundamentals of card gaming are so ingrained in his thought process is a massive win to wherever he ends up. I know veteran MTG players who haven’t been able to understand why Hogaak is good and dude just nails it with the “oh, any card?!”
Sol Ring is legal in Vintage where it's Restricted. Only 1v1 format that it is legal in.
This Vintage erasure will not stand
@@seangalexander We will call forth the council!
Yeah I was like hij it became banned in vintage? Not that anyone would care but still
@@timw9745 i can assure you a lot of vintage players would care :-) a mox is more OP than a sol ring, so banning sol ring wouldnt make sense anyway and would go against the philosophy of the format
Doesn't vintage never ban, just restrict?
Carl's trying to sustain a poker face in 12:50, was just amazing 😂
Carl has too much of a smile on his face, you can't see if he's happy or trying to fake out someone. Permasmile is probably one of the stronger pokerfaces around.
He is so impressive. He reads magic cards better than 90% of Magic players
I was waiting for this. The short teased me.
What an absolute GIGABRAIN CHAD. No smooth noggin, maximum wrinklage. Reads the cards (already better than like 69% of MtG players) and even understands them. 10/10 would let evaluate cardboard again 💕💕
i liked the way he related the cards back to YGO. I've never played YGO for a second but I already feel like I understand it better! Fun to see his takes, smart guy!
Yugioh: imagine the only format people play is Legacy (but everything gets reprinted out the wazoo, so it's cheap to buy in), everyone is playing some flavor of Storm, and there's 5 different free versions of Force Of Will. The only major rule in Yugioh is the first turn player cannot conduct their battle phase (combat). It can get silly, but I love it!
Oh yeah, it's also a game where a board full of walking 5/5 counterspells is fine, but a sorcery that simply says "Draw 2 cards" is the most broken shit ever :)
@@Kylora2112a board full of walking 5/5 counter spells is so accurate 😭😭😭
Taylor has a great sense of different tactics in magic even without playing it or knowing the decks these cards came from. I loved his personality and how he thought things out which would make him a great player/opponent if he played the game so I’m definitely going to sub to his channel to see those aspects in play when they play yu-gi-oh
More impressive than the 5/5 was the thought process itself on each card. Taylor would be very good at Magic.
Super impressed! Well done. Hell of a way to introduce a new host. I already have immediate respect for his knowledge and analysis skills.
Hogaak was really easy to guess as a Yugioh player since there's an analogous card to it in Fairy Tail - Snow. Snow's used more as a stepping stone for your end board but they are practically the same
Love Staple or Stinker! Have you ever thought about doing an episode with Flesh and Blood cards? I feel like the fact that it has such a different gameplay system would make evaluation of the cards really interesting!
Is Flesh and Blood only in paper?
When I saw Sol Ring at the end I knew he was going to get it right. 2 easy
thats true, it felt a bit too ez after seeing his previous analysises, but it might have felt different if he got some wrong before ^^
Hey, a new face at Cardmarket! I'm sure Taylor will fit in well with the Yu Gi Oh crowd, and who knows, maybe we'll be seing him again on here, too
Love to see people using logic to approach cards like this. Very friendly person as well, very positive vibes :)
Please put it to the test and show him Nadu - if he can guess it right, its even more of a miracle how it slipped through playtesting :D
Also i like to add, I think it is easier to rate magic cards comapred to yugioh cards. Just the wall of text on yugioh cards that also happen to be very specific and relate to a lot of mechanics you cant understand if you dont know at least a bit of yugioh. The concept of a 8/8 that has alternate costs and trample over small creatures is easier than a card that chains with something, that can be special summoned but only if its in your discard pile and only once per turn and and and....I used to look into yugioh when it came out and this is like a whole different game today, i dont understand sh*t these days xD
You're not at all wrong, but I think thats an important part of why he was so keen on evaluation, despite the perennial memes about nobody reading cards, playing YGO WELL requires an ability to parse what things Do despite the complexity, and why that is Good or Bad, and combined with a decent sense for TCGs in general and its not terribly difficult to sniff out easier examples like these ones
I think its well shown in his reasonings as well
great performance from taylor! I play both games albeit casually but he definitely has the analytical mind 👏
Man is he good! The way he can justify his decisions shows some true skill and understanding from card games. This is what I want to develop for my work one day!
Gosh I've been waiting for this one. The shorts were so good!
Very impressed with Taylor! Looking forward to the future of the Yugioh channel with him at the helm
Whoo! Glad to have this back.
I'd love to see you hit someone with Lantern of Insight on one of these. Just to see a YGO player react to Lantern Control being a deck.
Carl: "tell us what you think about Hogaak, Arisne Necropolis"
Me: *forcefully exhales air from my nose*
Dragonmaster Outcast was played in UR control decks Battle For Zendikar in sideboard for control mirrors, because in such mirrors you often remove cheap removal spells and 1 drop could stick on board for 5 turns covered with lot of counterspells.
rocking a similar style vest like Paris from gilmore girls in episode 3 of season 6! (styles actually return from 10-20 years ago) - yes I spent time with my wife watching gilmore girls
Saw some of the shorts, been waiting for this one!
Great video! I missed this series, so I'm glad it came back!
Great showing by Taylor too!
Yes! Was waiting for the whole video because the shorts were impressive 🎉🎉 Being able to generalize card game knowledge is harder than I thought 😮
dude deduced the concept of curving out in 1:30; his grasp of mana, coming from a game where everything ends before the end of the second player's second turn, is really impressive!
Man.. Bro would've probably even correctly analyzed Oko in Spoilers. Great job!
One of the smartest guys I've ever seen, I predicted he would nail 5/5! Congrats
Shows this fella has a strong understanding of the potential concerns that introducing the resource management of mana could have. He's a Magic player disguised as a Yugioh player. Fun vid
It was really fun to watch Taylor reason through all those cards! Bring him back for more :D
Now we need a series thats just devoted to stumping this guy. He's obviously too good for "Staple or Stinker",so lets get ready for "Let's Stump Taylor!"
Give this man a magic deck in a future video, please. I want to see that. He has such intuition
Pretty sure he analysed the cards better than I do lol, very impressive
Loving the line "magic is slow" as someone who started mtg from lor which was even slower 😭 i was out there paying 9 mana for a boardwipe
Used to play yugioh when I was younger, might even watch some videos now and again I enjoyed his analysis. Now you have to do the same with YuGiOh cards!!!
Seeing how much Taylor loves the buzzer.. he needs to invite Carl for a Staple or Stinker on Yugioh cards!
Also, damn he did great, getting every single one right! I mean he got the logic of them all 100% right!
Excited to see staple or stinker again! Well done Taylor!
Taylor, not only being big brain, also has that Bob Ross vibe that would make him stand out as the Yu-Gi-Oh! host
No traps there, but for someone who doesn't know anything about magic his analysis was really concise and spot on! Amazing
I really missed Staple or Stinker. Taylors analysis were spot on!
I’ve noticed that it’s easier for yugioh players to know if other cards are good than vice versa
im pretty new to magic, but it feels like card advantage and drawing cards is the most OP thing in the game
It seriously is. In pokemon for example in your first turn of the game if all goes well you should draw like 5 or 10 cards. In Magic, it is very rare to do that in a whole game.
It is, just because it gives you much more options
There are two limits in magic: the mana you have, and the cards you have. It's much easier to get more mana than more cards, so anything that gives you more cards is pretty good.
Yep. Cards can get you more mana, it’s harder for mana to get you more cards. Both cap each other, but card advantage comes first.
Drawing cards is part of card advantage but yes, card advantage is powerful in pretty much any tcg. That's why one of the most broken Yugioh cards ever just says "draw 2 cards"
That said, because of magic's mana system, the benefit has to be worth the cost. If you're only spending a little mana for something early that is constantly drawing you cards or creating tokens, that's strong. Paying 6 or 7 mana to draw some cards or make some tokens is pretty bad though, because there are cards for 6 or 7 mana that win you the game almost immediately
Hell yeah, a few of these were tricky! This was fun to watch!!
I think this is a good Yu-Gi-Oh guy. Doesnt look like they drink Elmer's glue on the reg
More with this guy please. Very pleasant!
Taylor is a well-spoken, intelligent guy with an eye for Magic on top of having an eye for Yu-Gi-Oh (I assume). You guys gained a hell of an asset with him.
Dragon master outcast was the first card I thought of when Obeka splitter of seconds was spoiled
"remember magic is slow you don't win one or two turns"
after pro tour
Nadu: Nah, I'd win.
I miss when piercing was just called fairy meteor crush
Amazing Crossover! Taylor seems super chill and knowledgeable. 5/5, lets goooooo
Was missing this. Nice to see it back
Thumps up for Taylor, not only good analysis but also a man of the people.
I love this series. I always want more! 🎉
wow; and the fact there was no real guesswork, but actually correct thought process really makes it awesome.
Flawless victory! He nailed it on every one of those!
For some of them it was easy to guess (like sol ring) but the analysis was spot on. impressive for someone who doesn't play magic.
Dragonmaster Outcast was played in the sideboard of competitive control decks
dude would make killer commander decks xD well done
I like him! He can evaluate cards great and with awesome reasoning!
wohaa... Taylors' perspective is outstanding.
I would have thought that Duskmantle Seer would have a place in topdeck manipulation decks.
But I guess the problem is that you cannot play instances between the "every player reveal their top card" and "then put it into his or her hand" effects.
If you could force players to show their top card first, then hit them with a deck shuffle instant effect before they draw, that would be useful.
Or if you could turn the effect off and on as needed, combined with lantern of insight.
Welcome Taylor! He nailed it!
absolutely killed it!!!
Taylor was perfect with all the analyses, from Outcast to Sol Ring. Would love to see Taylor return to be tested with even harder cards to analyze
My faovirite series continues!
please please please carry on with the launch of these channels, I would love to see one for flesh and blood and I really think the community would rally behind a channel with a higher production value, and it could attract new players to our game. I absolutely love this channel despite not actively playing magic and I feel a flesh and blood channel could do the same for my favourite game ever created.
super happy that you got someone to continue the yugioh channel if just for staple or stinker with magic players 😂
Sol Ring actually can be played in a 1v1 format, that being Vintage, however it's restricted because it's equal to or better than a mox in a lot of decks.
I skipped vintage there because it would have just confused most viewers and is not really relevant to the explanation :)
@@CardmarketMagic That makes sense.
Dragon master outcast was gasoline in standard sideboards?
I've been playing magic off and on for 20 years, and I only got 4/5, this guy was good
Return of a classic series!
Gotta give this guy more challenging cards B)
I would love to see this in format specific context. Idk if you go deep with like limited, modern or you just split between 1v1 formats vs commander.
I thought of a potential video idea today. You could stack magic decks or set up a game State from pro-tour situations and have different card market players play from that point in the game to see if they would come to different outcomes. Would Toralf make the same decisions as the pro that won that game? Or maybe Jamin does something so differently from the pro on the other side that it throws off that potential outcome.
I love the experimental content!
This guy was so good, it might make me watch Yugioh content.
That was brilliant to watch
Dragonmaster outcast saw a ton of play in jeskai black decks the second time it was in standard!
Carl always looks like he‘s sweating
He has a sharp mind, he must be a great player indeed
I thought dragonmaster outcast saw a decent amount of play in the "wet jund" or whatever that 4c pile was called in standard? Maybe it was a flash in the pan.
From what I recall, it was tried out but found to lack enough impact to keep in.
He struggled a little bit with Dragonmaster Outcast not understanding when you were allowed to play it and how many dragons it would make. Understandably so since Magic is so card advantage based. Other than that it was very impressive. Sol Ring analysis was extremely good. He will love Mana Crypt haha
Taylor have a very good reading and analysis overall. he's pretty good
Kudos to Taylor, what a champ!
Also, cool shirt Carl!
Thanks :)
Ah, the good ol' days of Khans and BFZ Standard where Dragonmaster Outcast came in for grindy matchups. It's absolutely a stinker, but MAN was it fun.
Fantastic insights!
Hope there's Staple or Stinker 2: Combo Edition with him on board. Show him a pair of cards and see if that combo is infamous or not in 60-card Magic
Dragonmaster Outcast saw competitive play in a lot of UR/jeskai energy control lists in a standard period overshined tho by aetherworks marvel broken combo deck.
Taylor is quite smart. Getting all correct on first try is quite impressive. Would be nice to see Shadowgrange Archfiend in this.
I'll play along as a casual MtG watcher.
1) Dragonmaster Outcast: So you have to wait until turn 6, play this card and it does nothing. Then your opponent has to be unable to kill a 1/1. THEN it summons a 5/5 on turn 7, but it doesn't have haste so you're still doing nothing. Finally on turn 8, you can attack with that 5/5. It's bad.
2) Arcbound Ravager: So it's a creature that can just move its strength onto something else.On top of that, it's an activated ability and can sacrifice artifacts in response to them being destroyed and if it is destroyed itself, it can still move its counters onto something else. Feels really really annoying to play against. Busted.
3) Hogak. 8/8 trample and it has two really separate mechanics to cheat it out. It feels like you could easily have this on board by turn 2 or 3. AND it can be played from the graveyard. Busted. I can imagine this just shitting on the meta.
4) Duskmantle Seer. Feels like a tricky one. The effect is great but its effect is largely symetrical, unless the idea is to play this in a cheap rush deck that can easily utilize the extra cards better than your opponent and benefits more from the life loss, as the opponent has larger spells and is the one being rushed down so they need the life more than you do. But I also thought Blue Black was more control than it was aggro. The alternative is that some disgusting cards used this synergy to their advantage somehow. I'm going to guess busted. If there is a blue-black aggressive deck that plays cheap spells and tries to rush the opponent down, getting extra cards AND reducing your opponent's life total is perfect.
5) Everybody plays Sol ring in every deck in commander so I assume it is busted.
You did quite well! 👏
Man, Taylor did quite a bit better than Thoralf on the Yu-Gi-Oh channel. These weren't exactly the hardest cards to judge, apart from Hogaak, which surprised even seasoned magic player by how much more broken it was than first believed. Great job Taylor and have fun on the channel!
The second I saw that last card I knew how the video had to end
Dragonmaster Outcast with the new Obeka, Splitter of Seconds is OP