@@sam7559No it isn't new it has always said "may play". Check out the reminder text on Maelstrom Nexus from Alara. If you choose not to cast it will just be put with the random cards on the bottom of your library. They did this so you would not be forced to counter your own spell.
Thoralf has the unfortunate position of being the best player at the table, and therefore it just makes sense to gang up on him, which makes the game less fun for everyone. But if you don't, he likely wins, which is also predictable and unfun. Unfortunately there is not much that can be done about it.
I missed that Orochi's ability could only be used once each turn, and for a while I was wondering why he didn't just go infinite with Staff of Domination.
Thoralf could've done more shenanigans during the other players turns though 1mana to untap staff, sinking all the mana in, 5mana to untap Patron, another sinking all the mana in for 3 turns... lot of carddraw and lifegain would that have been! likely he didn't because he knew he had the game on his next turn so wanted to stay out of spotlight and get the others damaging eachother
Just this once, Thoralf does not start with Sol Ring, which usually ends in him being public enemy lol. Also that Delayed Blast Fireball Cascade was absolutely disgusting and I love it!
I hate that errata so much. Pour one out to anyone who had Naga as their favorite creature type. Or a Naga commander deck. Or any cultural connection to nagas.
I'm still watching the video so I don't know if it really matters, but at 3:43 Jamin plays an untapped Stomping Grounds and doesn't take any damage for that.
I played snake tribal in Kamigawa standard, so a lot of these "obscure" cards in Thoralf's deck are super nostalgic for me. Patron of the Orochi is still one my favourite cards ever and can be useful in the 99 for many green edh decks even if you don't have snakes to sac. All that to say, I'm team Snake on this one 🐍🐍🐍🐍
... but even with the Gauntlet destroyed, Thoralf still has infinite mana when he plays the Staff of Domination. He can tap 4 to continuously produce 6. That's the win right there!
Friendship ended with bears (because I realized they were all shapeshifters and uh... just people I had confused for bears?) now the demons are my best friend. Also I love that the guitar riff synced up with the play involving the guitar space marine over there.
Malone and the card market boys, I'd love to see this collab happen way more. No offense to Andrea, but Malone has about 10x the personality and charisma.
Nice! Makes me want to see if its possible to see commander that's a tribute to the 60 card decks like the MH3 Precons now. Or Commander but the deck is made of format allstars
Thoralf sneaked out the win haha. I was surprised he wasnt using Patron during everyones turn (its 1/T) could get some value with Staff.. But it seemed that he just had what it takes already ready. This was very fun to watch, thanks for the video.
Oh yeah, we DO call them ophis in german, i wonder why we used the greek translation and not the commonly used german one "Schlange", but it's dope as fuck so I don't mind!
As for the snakes, i like the commander choice but again it doesnt REALLY do anything for your snakes etc. Here's 5 other ones that actually do something for/with snakes, Kaseto Orochi Archmage, Sachi Daughter of Seshiro (ironically he played this), Seshiro the Anointed, Shisato Whispering Hunter and finally Xyris the Writhing Storm
I wish you could invite Phil, better known as Brewer's Kitchen from MTGGoldfish, to play janky commanders someday. Just in Phil's style, with random interactions combos.
At our table we had a really fun idea for building commander decks: You need 4 players, player 1 chooses a colour/combination Player 2 chooses a legal Commander within the colour/s chosen by player 1 Player 3 builds a deck around the chosen commander/s for player four, and that is done until everyone has built a deck for someone this way. It was reaallly fun, Though we could only do it once.
Because atm I build only decks with not so loved commanders, I want to see more games with less played commanders. This year I designed decks for my Karvanista, Ashad, Geth (Thane of Contracts), Kate Stewart and my most loved on Tawnos,Solemn Survivor. He was a realy nice quipment token copy deck and I still hate that in MH3 they made a new commander in the same colors, who is 100 times better in doing this thing. For me it was much more fun to make him work, than let the commander make each single step on the process by himself doing it.
Malone, Malone, Malone with that 0:15 voice you sound more like playing knights or wizards, out to slay some dragons ... but hey other tribes play but demons will kill! Also some serious Werner - gekotzt wird später vibes going on here (Ich werd jetzt Könich)
Something I should mention about the "Orphan" Viper - it has a deathtouch like ability, but it isn't deathtouch. At 2+ power, it still has to assign damage equal to or greater than a creature's toughness before moving onto the next (if it's double blocked), unlike legitimate deathtouch where a 2/x deathtoucher can assign 1 point of damage to each blocker.
20:22 How did the Shapeshifter token become a 3/3. It's not affected by Ruxa because it has changeling and it's not affected by Gauntlet of Power because it's colorless and it's not affected by Beregond of the Guard because Carl does not control it. I don't see any other effects that could have given it +1/+1. 34:20 Rule 722.4. says that if the monarch leaves the game, the active player becomes the monarch at the same time as that player leaves the game. So Thoralf does become the monarch as the game ends.
be’lakor is one of my all time favorite commanders but never really gets the best showing, with the right cards he’s a MONSTER (blade of selves, rite of replication, sneak attack)
Not related to this specific video, but if I want to send you a custom card for your videos (like rating custom cards, playing with a pile of custom cards etc.), where should I send it? And is it announced in any way when you are looking for custom cards to be sent to you? Thanks!
Hi. I just saw the staple or stinker video on the yugioh channel with thoralf and was wondering if you could do a staple or stinker magic edition with Joshua Schmidt? He’s a German yugioh streamer and is considerd one of the best if not the best yugioh player of all time.
Now that is what I call a rollercoaster of a game! But King Cool just reminds me that you guys work in an attic in Berlin, I hope you're doing okay in this heat wave o.O
From the title I was really hoping for a random non legendary creature to be picked for each persons commander. Awesome video as always regardless though :)
Snake can actually be a verb. It can mean to move, twist or weave like snake thru a crowd. A snake is also a plumbing tool to unblock drains so someone might snake a drain.
I was really hoping that someone was going to get the phelddagrif creature type since there's only 2 creatures that have that type if you exclude shapeshifters.
Still waiting for a good demon tribal commander that doesnt cost 6 or more mana and actually does something for demons. Current one i play is gorogoro and satoru and hes pretty good, but he doesnt do anything for demons :/
With the right to bear arms comes the ability to arm bears.
That's a great one! :D
I read this comment Before watching the video. Needless to Say i was Very confused.
The right to bear arms allows armed bears to bear bear arms in their bare bear arms.
Great idea! I'll add 6 more arms to each bear...and replace their tail with a human arm that gives a constant thumbs up.
@@CardmarketMagicsh-ah-man = shaman.
The zoom on Carl looking at the camera when Jamin snakes a plains is comedy gold
Snakes on a plane snake a plains into plain sight.
Bear deck is the least bear deck at the table
Malone's turn looked like a Yugioh turn lol that was hilariously random but looked perfectly setup xD
I love how thoralf successfully set up the ability to create infinite mana and never used it.
The creature type pulls this time was legendary
Maybe i'm wrong but from what is on Thoralf board, Staff + Orochi's Patron, he was able to generate infinite mana/infinite life ^^
deck time
The demon deal backfiring (and unintentionally, no politics lying!) is such a fantastic outcome
I mean... Carl never said he wanted to survive Malone's Turn
To be fair with Cascade you are not FORCED to cast a spell, you can choose to not cast it ;P
@MareczqZglos that is a new ruling
@@sam7559No it isn't new it has always said "may play". Check out the reminder text on Maelstrom Nexus from Alara.
If you choose not to cast it will just be put with the random cards on the bottom of your library. They did this so you would not be forced to counter your own spell.
"The queen threw herself at my snake"
-Rasputin, probably
6:14
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Carl: There's no bear kings that exist.
Kudo, King Among Bears: Am I a joke to you???
Sultai Sidisi is kind of a snake queen, also 😂😂
that had probably not been released yet when this video was filmed
Snakes actually got mega-buffed recently. A recent errata changed the Naga creature type into snake
oooh!
Came to the comments to just say that XD
Did not know this. Happy it happend
Makes sense. Nagas are literally mythological snakes.
Yeah, thought, we will come with an imoti Spellslinger Deck, where the only Creature is imoti so tecnical still Tribal ;)
I love watching Malone, and I'm glad to see that he got to come on your channel! Especially since you are practically neighbors! Lol
These Commander games should really be titled "Jamin&Carl gangup on Thoralf for 40 minutes"
How many of them have won pro tours? I would too haha
they didnt do it this time as much as usual and you can see the result
Ikr it's always like that xD
Thoralf has the unfortunate position of being the best player at the table, and therefore it just makes sense to gang up on him, which makes the game less fun for everyone. But if you don't, he likely wins, which is also predictable and unfun. Unfortunately there is not much that can be done about it.
@@lucasriddle3431 you're very wrong. You should gang up on the strongest board/hand/gy combination, not the most skilled player. Or git gud 🤷
The queen threw herself at my snake!
CUUUUUT hahahahaha
Please no
6:14
I missed that Orochi's ability could only be used once each turn, and for a while I was wondering why he didn't just go infinite with Staff of Domination.
Thoralf could've done more shenanigans during the other players turns though
1mana to untap staff, sinking all the mana in, 5mana to untap Patron, another sinking all the mana in
for 3 turns... lot of carddraw and lifegain would that have been!
likely he didn't because he knew he had the game on his next turn so wanted to stay out of spotlight and get the others damaging eachother
Orochi also untaps itself iirc
Just this once, Thoralf does not start with Sol Ring, which usually ends in him being public enemy lol.
Also that Delayed Blast Fireball Cascade was absolutely disgusting and I love it!
The only commander for bears is Ayula, Queen of Bears don't let the other legendary creatures fool you....
Kudo
Shame that her king consort can't go in the 99 due to color identity 😢
@@JocoBreRbCat least she can go in her king's deck!
Was this recorded before Naga were errata-ed into snakes?
No the video was recorded recently 😅 we simply didn't know about the errata
Oh crap I didn't know about that
I hate that errata so much. Pour one out to anyone who had Naga as their favorite creature type. Or a Naga commander deck. Or any cultural connection to nagas.
@@peterdafoxagreed. They could have just printed more Naga support eventually. Nagas aren't snakes
Love the jungle book lore alliances most logical play in any commander game
I'm still watching the video so I don't know if it really matters, but at 3:43 Jamin plays an untapped Stomping Grounds and doesn't take any damage for that.
It almost mattered, but he took 3 damage to exactly 0 in the end. So instead of 3 -> 0, it would've been 1 -> -2
I prefer to skip videos with Jamin cause he often makes obvious mistakes like these.
The table talk in general was hilarious, fun to watch. There in no such thing as too many puns.
I would love more content like this but with other things like random keywords based decks as well
you should do a 156 000 subscribers special match of pauper fog vs pauper fog
I like part where their main game plan is useless as there is no combat damage to fog. So many easy cuts for sideboarding.
🐻🐍👹🧑Decklists: bit.ly/4dlCyqU
Be'lakor absolutely shines, on paper. The textbox lends itself so incredibly well to demons tribal. Grixis colours too
Ahahahaha snakes on a plane....of kamigawa. Gold!
I actually laughed out loud at Orphan Viper
I love y'all's commander videos. Please more of these. This was bringing me back to when y'all had Remy on with his Goat of Arms finish
Lol ngl I was expecting more meme-ish types like last time, but I'm here for the more popular types anyway.
Did I hear 'I will snake this plains'? Does Samuel L Jackson have something to say about this?
I know this is super early, but can we get a commander gameplay with Andrea for Christmas?
I played snake tribal in Kamigawa standard, so a lot of these "obscure" cards in Thoralf's deck are super nostalgic for me. Patron of the Orochi is still one my favourite cards ever and can be useful in the 99 for many green edh decks even if you don't have snakes to sac. All that to say, I'm team Snake on this one 🐍🐍🐍🐍
In the future, I hope changelings do not count for challenges like this. If someone is playing bears, I hope to see actual bears. More fun that way. 😊
Okay, but what if someone got shapeshifter as their creature type? Eeehhh? Lol
@@Red-Tower thats different ofc
please make a squirrel deck it would be funny
I could make a decklist if you want
Awesome to see the "Madman" Malone back on the channel! I was just rocking out to "Planet Discordia" by his band "Mother". 5 minutes ago!
... but even with the Gauntlet destroyed, Thoralf still has infinite mana when he plays the Staff of Domination. He can tap 4 to continuously produce 6. That's the win right there!
Orochi is only once per turn
I don't know what kind of witchcraft is this but every time i get too stressed with uni cardmarket appears, love you
enjoy uni, it will get worse after xD
its called magic
🥁
One of my fav mtg content creator Malone ❤!!! Amazing game always watch out for thoses devilish deals!!
Oh man, yall got Post Malone on the channel? That's Awesome!
Let’s go bears!!! Just built a rule 0 Kudo and Ayula deck
Posted 11 seconds ago? Don't mind if I do
Welcome 👋 you are the first arrived so you can sit anywhere you like
Damm it took Pinkwinsall 11 seconds to click on it how you feel off
Friendship ended with bears (because I realized they were all shapeshifters and uh... just people I had confused for bears?) now the demons are my best friend.
Also I love that the guitar riff synced up with the play involving the guitar space marine over there.
Malone and the card market boys, I'd love to see this collab happen way more. No offense to Andrea, but Malone has about 10x the personality and charisma.
there's at least two species of snakes called King snake and King cobra respectively
Carl, have you been nostalgic lately? What's up with the returning old guests? Who's next? Spice8rack? Great to see Malone back!
The deal with the devil part was so good 😂
Nice! Makes me want to see if its possible to see commander that's a tribute to the 60 card decks like the MH3 Precons now. Or Commander but the deck is made of format allstars
Jamin I say this with love, embrace the baldy my man.
have been thinking the same for a while, hope all is well
Yes! Matches Malone! Big fan! Hope you could record something alongside Mengu, dream team!
34:20 @Carl does that mean you're getting a new monarchy crown???
Didn't expect to see Malone here, such an awesome guy!
poor Orphan Viper
I hope Malone knows, that Be'Lakor is a great Metal Band 😂
I plead for this format that ONLY creatures of the chosen type can be included in the decks!!
thats the boring way to brew tribal though, these decks were all pretty interesting takes on the tribe rather than play x card of y type.
I love your channel and this was by far the best epsiode I have watched!
4 real creature types? What kind of rng is this?
They got better options this time
Yoo more entertainment for my road trip! Sure this video is going to be fantastic!!
Didn't expect the cream of the crop in the video 😂
15:24 carl really doing my man kudo like that
Well im here early
He should have done a snake vehicle deck. You know...snakes on a plane...
Thoralf sneaked out the win haha. I was surprised he wasnt using Patron during everyones turn (its 1/T) could get some value with Staff.. But it seemed that he just had what it takes already ready.
This was very fun to watch, thanks for the video.
Thoralf winning off an overun slapped a smile on my face
Huh, who knew 30 years experience at being a human would help you in the game of magic.
What the hack happened to the series best card of colour ...? After black, did you give up because of the criticism?
What criticism?
Read the comments yourself, I'm not your mom;)
Love these random decided themes.
The demon in Jungle Book was also the humans.
Jamin's face when he saw Malone pull out the glasses LMAO
Oh yeah, we DO call them ophis in german, i wonder why we used the greek translation and not the commonly used german one "Schlange", but it's dope as fuck so I don't mind!
As for the snakes, i like the commander choice but again it doesnt REALLY do anything for your snakes etc. Here's 5 other ones that actually do something for/with snakes, Kaseto Orochi Archmage, Sachi Daughter of Seshiro (ironically he played this), Seshiro the Anointed, Shisato Whispering Hunter and finally Xyris the Writhing Storm
I wish you could invite Phil, better known as Brewer's Kitchen from MTGGoldfish, to play janky commanders someday. Just in Phil's style, with random interactions combos.
At our table we had a really fun idea for building commander decks:
You need 4 players, player 1 chooses a colour/combination
Player 2 chooses a legal Commander within the colour/s chosen by player 1
Player 3 builds a deck around the chosen commander/s for player four, and that is done until everyone has built a deck for someone this way. It was reaallly fun,
Though we could only do it once.
Because atm I build only decks with not so loved commanders, I want to see more games with less played commanders. This year I designed decks for my Karvanista, Ashad, Geth (Thane of Contracts), Kate Stewart and my most loved on Tawnos,Solemn Survivor. He was a realy nice quipment token copy deck and I still hate that in MH3 they made a new commander in the same colors, who is 100 times better in doing this thing. For me it was much more fun to make him work, than let the commander make each single step on the process by himself doing it.
Malone, Malone, Malone with that 0:15 voice you sound more like playing knights or wizards, out to slay some dragons ... but hey other tribes play but demons will kill! Also some serious Werner - gekotzt wird später vibes going on here (Ich werd jetzt Könich)
Something I should mention about the "Orphan" Viper - it has a deathtouch like ability, but it isn't deathtouch. At 2+ power, it still has to assign damage equal to or greater than a creature's toughness before moving onto the next (if it's double blocked), unlike legitimate deathtouch where a 2/x deathtoucher can assign 1 point of damage to each blocker.
20:22 How did the Shapeshifter token become a 3/3. It's not affected by Ruxa because it has changeling and it's not affected by Gauntlet of Power because it's colorless and it's not affected by Beregond of the Guard because Carl does not control it. I don't see any other effects that could have given it +1/+1.
34:20 Rule 722.4. says that if the monarch leaves the game, the active player becomes the monarch at the same time as that player leaves the game. So Thoralf does become the monarch as the game ends.
be’lakor is one of my all time favorite commanders but never really gets the best showing, with the right cards he’s a MONSTER (blade of selves, rite of replication, sneak attack)
I love the orphan viper, just like a famous Minecraft youtuber one said “Dude, these orphans are getting destroyed!”
Not related to this specific video, but if I want to send you a custom card for your videos (like rating custom cards, playing with a pile of custom cards etc.), where should I send it? And is it announced in any way when you are looking for custom cards to be sent to you? Thanks!
Hi. I just saw the staple or stinker video on the yugioh channel with thoralf and was wondering if you could do a staple or stinker magic edition with Joshua Schmidt? He’s a German yugioh streamer and is considerd one of the best if not the best yugioh player of all time.
_Sad Ooze sounds_
Temperamental Oozewagg is amazing, modified creatures have trample. Oozes love counters! Trampling Goo!!!
Now that is what I call a rollercoaster of a game! But King Cool just reminds me that you guys work in an attic in Berlin, I hope you're doing okay in this heat wave o.O
From the title I was really hoping for a random non legendary creature to be picked for each persons commander. Awesome video as always regardless though :)
Anyone else INSTANTLY think of Coiling Oracle when Malone said "snakes with arms"?
Billy Mitchell?
Why is it that more and more I’m hearing people saying “shaymin” instead of shaman (shaa-maan) it’s so confusing….
Snake can actually be a verb. It can mean to move, twist or weave like snake thru a crowd. A snake is also a plumbing tool to unblock drains so someone might snake a drain.
I was really hoping that someone was going to get the phelddagrif creature type since there's only 2 creatures that have that type if you exclude shapeshifters.
Only Carl snaked enough to wear matching costume. Would had been nice if all would had snaked that much effort.
Still waiting for a good demon tribal commander that doesnt cost 6 or more mana and actually does something for demons. Current one i play is gorogoro and satoru and hes pretty good, but he doesnt do anything for demons :/
BEAR FORCE ONE
So basicly everyone here ignores the Archetype they are supposed to use?... sad.... i had hoped on 100% decks.
SO HAPPY TO SEE MALOOOONEEE!!!!
I'd have defnitely picked Kenrith as Human commander and added powerhouses like Meren.
The friendship between humans and bears ls described in a German children's book Prinz Bär by Helme Heine
I was hoping Thoralf was going to play Xyris when I heard snakes. His choice made more sense though
I only have one question .... Why did the bear acedemic decide to pick up a plowshare in his retirement?
Did i have missed Something, could the snake attack immidiatly? Did they got haste from somewhere?