Updates for the 1st story AITA for cutting back on work to prove a point to my wife? and story 3 "My BF's friends pretended to kidnap me for a proposal" have been posted on the THT instagram page... I'm at a loss for words on them..
The r@pe-prevention insert was made for the highest SA areas of Africa and the biggest thing about them is they come out and stay attached to the r@pist so they can be identified, because they'll need to get hospital help to get it back off. It allowed for protection and prosecution. It is still in common usage in some areas of the world, which lowered attacks in those regions. The woman who designed it deserves a Nobel prize.
Theres only one problem with this if it comes to the us imagine you have a woman whos very much a man hater or a vindictive person who uses it to disfigure men
So I just checked, and HOLY MOLY, the first OP has a 4 part saga on his profile. To sum it up, after part 1, the original, it comes out in an argument that OP's wife has been using drugs and that her friend who got her to hate OP was her dealer. Part 3 is him forcing her to go to rehab at the threat of taking full custody of the kids (of which the two oldest are his stepsons). Even after part 3, he was hopeful they could still recover and be a happy family... Uuuuntil part 4 when her dealer friend sent OP a video of the wife dancing/ grinding on a guy that OP would describe as an ugly hick. The friend wasn't being a homie either. She was letting OP know that he was replaceable. It ends with him contacting a lawyer and being grateful that his parents made him sign a prenup with what he felt was an "inhumane cheating clause."
OK I just saw a different comment saying the same things and how the wife was on drugs and I literally thought “I wonder if the friend got her into it” and here we are
First story- OPs wife is SO entitled and I love how he handled this. He provided everything she needed. To be appalled over his attitude around this is utter nonsense
As someone who has had their nudes leaked, it’s real, Morgan. I sent like 3 pics to the same guy i went to school with and he leaked them. My whole high school experience was people bringing it up, calling me names, sending them around, and more. My entire high school experience was people asking me for pics, threatening to leak them again if I didn’t, or saying they’re going to send them to my parents if they didn’t get the pics they wanted. Life was miserable. Men talk about everything and WILL show off nudes if they’re immature enough. If I can tell any young girl anything, please PLEASE do not send out nudes. If a guy is pushing you, block them, ignore them, or remove them completely from your life. You don’t need that. If you do get exposed, talk to your school! Make a report. They can get charges for child porn. It’s wrong and they need to learn the effects of their actions. Edit: it makes me sick to my stomach that so many of us were threatened because we chose to trust someone. I’m not proud of what i did and I do agree it was very ignorant of me to do in the first place. I was dumb and naive and I haven’t made that choice in a very long time. I just hope we can teach some young girls what can happen. I’m so sorry those who commented under this went through similar situations to me. I hope everyone is well. Good luck to you all. ❤️
Had the same exact experience in high school. Moved far far away from that place after I turned 18. I hope you have found healing and peace after what those assholes did to you 💗 sending you love, support and solidarity
There was a boy I was in love with ever since we were kids and he knew. When we were in our young teens, he gave me attention for a couple of weeks, begged me constantly for nudes and I ended up sending them. Thought I was safe until 3 YEARS LATER when it was discovered he had an app where he was storing a bunch of girls' nudes and was sharing them with his friends. HE LEAKED THE ENTIRE FOLDER and me with a bunch of other girls had our nudes leaked. Even though I tried to be smart and keep my face out the pictures, he was naming names and giving screenshots of our snapchat conversations (which I wasn't even notified he screenshotted - snapchat was way more glitchy back then) to prove the identities of the girls. It was traumatizing. It's very real. And I agree I hope any young girls who see this really consider it. Even if you think they're different and would never do that to you... Please just do not send child porn.
I feel this so much. I was extremely naïve, desperate for love and not knowing how to safely receive it. I sent pictures out to a couple people in school and out of school. Then all of a sudden I got flooded by messages from guys I didn't even know requesting their own personal photo. I was caught off guard because I only sent them to x, y, z, then it dawned on me that my photos are now everywhere. Been threatened numerous times, one asshole told me he released them online. I didn't even want to look it up, I was so disgusted in myself. Later I realized just how illegal and dangerous all of this is. I was so ashamed of myself when I found out. I turned my shame into anger and took this as a very hard life lesson. I agree with everything you say; young girls/women, please be aware of how dangerous this situation is. I'm sorry to say that the person who is requesting these things, only want to use and control you. Please really think things through with feelings aside if you're ever in this situation, don't ever feel like you can't say no. No is always and forever will be an option. Don't be discouraged to tell someone, whether it be a friend or an adult. People will listen, they will believe you, they will support you.
Story 3: Someone tell me why he didn't just have the sister bring her to the engagement?!?!?!?!?! OH MY 🤬 GOD. The literal YEARS of trauma she will be left with!!!!!!
@@imaniyup7908 Oh no, I understand, but like why is he involving these random people he's only just met in this? He could have done something with just the best friend that she knew or her sister? Someone she was familiar with? Why even have this ski mask thing at all
The sock story: I had a friend in elementary school that always wore mismatched socks, she would wear knee high socks with an ankle sock and all different colors and patterns. She passed away in a car accident when we were 12 and I've worn mismatched socks ever since in memory of her (I'm 24 now) everyone around me knows why I wear my socks mismatched sometimes and if I had my partner do that to me over my socks the relationship would be done.
Story 3- i know hind sight is 20/20 but if the best friend really felt that bad why didnt he pull over and stop the behavior when he realized she was sobbing and screaming in real fear, he was the driver he could have taken control of the situation. Press all the charges on everyone cause they deserve it
@@JoanieBeanevery single one of them. Because he only cried when he got caught. They could have killed her to keep her quiet if they thought they could get away with it. Literally SA’d her smh throw them under the garbage can under the jail
The second story feels like a true NAH. Boyfriend shared a detail about his life with his friends. The friends, seemingly without prompting bought him a cake to be a funny joke among friends. Boyfriend posted it to a very small group of people, not thinking anything of it. Girlfriend communicated she wasn't comfortable with it. With a lot of culture still being very purity focused for young girls but 'go out get laid' focused for guys, it makes sense that he's confortable sharing they had sex and she isn't. Boyfriend apologized and took the post down immediately. He did something that upset her without realizing it, she communicated that, he remedied the situation. Perfectly handled
Yeh I agree. My thinking was this is his life too. Like he can't be happy about losing his virginity? I get if she was worried about people finding out especially if strict parents are involved but he was just happy and only shared it with people who likely already knew.
Think the issue is the post. Maybe send it to her first. But what is annoying is most girls talk too much about their stuff too so 🤷🏽♂️ w/e he probably should have assumed ppl were thinking maybe they are maybe they not but he ousted them both with that. Especially if her friends saw it. But stop posting shit
3rd story update: short update due to legal reasons, she had many conversations with her now fiancé. One of the guys apologized & told her he was on the spectrum. She wasn’t sure if she was going to press charges but in the edit she says pressing charges would be for the best
sounds like he’s trying to justify his shitty “prank” and not have charges pressed against him because he’s “on the spectrum”, he knew what he was doing and had been touching her inappropriately. No weaseling out of that mister. I hope OP presses charges against him still regardless 😭😭 Thank you for the update ❤ Avoiding accountability with an insincere apology, he’s not apologizing because he’s sorry. He’s apologizing to save his ass, OP’s bf should cut off both morons and support his fiancé in taking both men to court.
That's absolutely not an excuse for kidnap and assault. I SO hope she presses charges, but it is her journey. I would bet anything that guy uses this excuse to get away with a lot. Paige Layle is an autistic content creator that did a video on this exact issue. It's insulting to the community because it's assuming they cannot understand right from wrong, when they absolutely do. A lot of stalkers are actually on the spectrum.
The Last Story: of a lonely terminal lady. It’s SO wholesome. *She* most likely wanted to feel a man’s arms around her (not just sxx). She wanted to feel a semblance of love + compassion. And she got thE right guy TG. What a gift.
That last story made me cry so much. Sometimes I think I'm lonely and then I hear about people like this who truly have no one, and it's one thing when you're young, but when you're older it's harder to make connections and, frankly, harder for people to care about you. I'm glad he chose to befriend her rather than just treat her as another client.
Just hit the 36 minute mark and when she said "I really wish she would have murdered one of them" it made me CACKLE. That whole situation was so wild and stupid and I completely agree that if that would have happened they would have been deserving. Super traumatic and I hope she's okay.
Last story - come on guys he is a professional! I’m sure her first time was better than what you think lol! 😂😂 It was a bucket list item she checked off three times!
Story 5: I personally think that its fine if he doesn’t want to shave her and if he’s already giving her money for herself, then why wouldn’t she pay for it? Especially since she wants to be hair free down there, not him
I agree he never sais he minded the hair and i hated the petty if he got cancer i wouldnt back him up tf that doesnt compare and thats a boundry he said he wont do she has alotof money she shouldgo and book herself a wax
Thank you! I was stunned which she was making him shave her like that is a boundary he is trying to set and he does not want to pay because he gives her money to do the thing she wants not needs and she does not need to be shaved
@@e.ghetti6710 yeah it’s like they talk so much about boundaries but when it’s mens boundaries they don’t matter. I would not want to shave my man’s balls either bc I have a disgust of loose shavings. I can’t even stand beard shavings in the sink. It’s objectively different.
Okay so about a comment made by Morgan on story 2, similar to ones she’s made in previous episodes: I, personally, find it a little weird to tell your friends about a partner’s penis size and details like that, especially if it’s a committed relationship (rather than a one night stand). I hope this doesn’t come off as judgemental, everyone is different, it’s just if my partner went to their friends and told them intimate details like that I’d feel incredibly uncomfortable. Everyone’s boundaries are different, of course, if your partner is chill with it then by all means. I just thought I’d put in my two cents about that…
honestly agreed. i have never felt comfortable sharing those kinds of details of my long term bf with them. now when i had one night stands and never planned on seeing the guy again, okay different. but telling my friends what my bfs dick looks like really crosses the line for me.
I honestly feel like it's disrespectful especially when you supposedly "love" that person. Ig it's a different story if they encourage u to talk abt their dick since they're proud of it but even then I'd find that odd and I'd be turned off by it. I used to think that I'd be the type to reveal stuff like dick size but when I did get into a relationship, I found it uncomfy. Cause personally I wouldn't want my partner to talk abt my 😺 in any way lol
I also found it disgusting how her friend believes that "all men show off nudes." My friends and I have almost all had partners send us photos, and the idea of showing something like that to each other is disgusting. We all agree that's a HUGE invasion of privacy, so to hear "Yeah all men disrespect their partners," is such a horrible take.
Dont send nudes! But if you do: don't include your face, or any identifying marks or tattoos, and put a watermark (a hidden letter or number)on the photo, and a note of what watermark was sent to who. Then if you ever are leaked, you can sue them ❤
First Story: If you want a "traditional man" who makes all the money, then you have to be a "traditional woman" and take care of the house and kids. You can't have your traditional man and expect him to also be the housewife.
This is so incredibly toxic and outdated to say. Yes, one parent can work outside the house and should still contribute to the house and be an active parent to their kids. A stay at home parents job shouldn't last 24/7 just cause they aren't getting paid for it. If they don't get off at 5pm the other parent shouldn't be "off" at 5pm. Your job as a parent never ends. If you aren't going to keep being a parent even when you're off your paying Jon them you aren't a parent, you're a walking paycheck who's kids are 100% going to resent you and go no contact once they turn 18
@@whossoulnobody said that being a “traditional man” doesn’t include doing some chores and interacting with the kids. It does. I agree with the first comment, you can’t expect someone to work a 9-5 and do most of the chores.
Story 6: I feel like it’s a double standard, if the woman was uncomfortable having sex while pregnant and the man was upset it would be a big no. Woman or man, in a relationship or not you should be able to discuss whatever sexual boundaries you want. Honestly I didn’t get the impression he would stop being attracted to her during or after pregnancy.
My boyfriend of 2.5 years buzzed my pubes for me because we were going to the lake with his parents and I was scared of hurting myself with his buzzer, didn’t hesitate and even said we’re just closer now. I don’t know how you wouldn’t want to help your partner out, especially when they physically can’t do it themselves
Exactly. I haven’t needed my man to do it for me but ik he would and I’d shave him. We talked about wiping each others butts if one of us was injured lol.
My husband has done the same multiple times, has delivered one of our babies, was hands on in the birth of our twins, weak men have weak genetics and aren't worth reproducing and parenting with lol
My husband helped me shave when I was pregnant, and was also involved in the room when I was in labor. 😂 I love that your bf did that for you, it’s so sweet.
See this is my pov too, but honestly if she’s getting 8k a month as pocket money and he has set the boundary of not wanting to do it she can 100% afford to pay for her own wax with the money he is giving her.
Two consenting adults having sex?!? Nothing wrong with that. Just because she has cancer doesn’t mean she doesn’t want sex or can’t consent. People with cancer are humans, with all the “normal” needs & emotions humans have. Do what makes you happy!
“Keep it in your own locker rooms” is a good analogy. Girl talk is a thing; guy talk is a thing. But it’s when we find out about each other’s talk that feelings get hurt 🤣
So for the third story they didn't just kidnap her, the one assaulted her... I hope they press charges against them. I have a feeling one or both of them definitely had that kink. They sound dangerous and I wouldn't be surprised if either of them have SA'd someone before.
Story 5: Personally, I don’t think I would want to shave someone else or have someone shave me. I only do it to myself because the hair makes me a little insecure about it. But, I think he should pay for the spa day as a compromise. She is clean shaven and he doesn’t have to do it.
Why should he have to pay for it when he isn’t the one with the problem. He already gives her all that money if she wants something done she can do it with that.
As a 32 yo chick, I am VERY uncomfortable talking about anything related to sex with friends or anyone other than my partner. I haven't known many women who do talk about details especially size. Maybe it's just me......
Third story: WTF!! I feel so bad for the boyfriend because he did not plan that, and i truly didn’t believe he agree to that plan!! If they would have her the letter it wouldn’t have went like this i don’t think it was a bad idea, IT WAS JUST POORLY EXECUTED!! But i feel so sorry for op bc i can’t imagine that happening to me! So traumatic
Same. It doesn't even sound like it he wanted it to be a kidnapping since the plan was to hand her a note and she go willingly. I'm also getting the feeling that the masks and gloves weren't a part of the original plan either.
i'd have to have him completely drop every single one of those friends before considering continuing to have him in my life though, because how can you be friends with someone who does that??
Even his child hood friend, he didnt say anything??? she was screaming and crying the whole time and he didnt stop the car or even once say "hey its me" like WHAT
@@lunniebunnie oh for sure his childhood friend is EQUALLY responsible, he could 100% hear everything that was happening and regardless of him saying afterwards that he tried to diffuse the situation HE NEVER STOPPED. He could have immediately pulled over the moment he HEARD her genuine fear, its telling to an extent of him enjoying it for continuing to directly enable them for the entire length of the drive.
I wouldn’t be surprised if those two “friends” that were holding her down, have SA someone else. So disgusting. Hope OP is doing better and getting the help she needs. And men, proposing using a scary scenario is not cute, romantic or a good idea at all. Edit to add: In Mexico back in the day “stealing the bride” used to be a thing. However, it would bring a lot of shame to the family if it happened. More often than not, the women wanted to returned home, but they were forced to marry their kidnappers. I have heard many stories. One of them, the boyfriend took her girlfriend after she went to church. Sadly, he had taken her twin sister and was forced to marry her. That was the story of my Spanish teacher’s grandmother. They had planned to runaway together, but she was told to stay to help with chores and her sister went to mass. The sister tried to tell him it wasn’t her, but he didn’t listen thinking that she had changed her mind…
god, hannah seems great but makes me so uncomfortable. all the generalizations about men and women, the misinformation about hymens, acting like sex cant be amazing for people with vulvas… idk, it all rubs me the wrong way.
Petition to add Hannah to the rotating guest list! I found myself screaming something like "It's your pregnant wife you fuck!" followed up by Hannah saying that exactly.
Just got through the kidnapping story. I live in West Virginia. I’m a 115 pound, 5’3” 23year old. I’ve gone to multiple self defense firearms training courses, and if a group of men hopped out of a car and tried to abduct me, I would do everything in my power to make sure they would not be walking away from the situation. There are so many crazy things that happen to “weak and defenseless” people these days, and I will absolutely do anything I can to make sure I will never be a victim again.
That and theres alot of different firearms that are small and compact enough to carry either in a holster or purse women have every right to be protected this kind of thing is not okay he should have stuck with a traditional proposal safe and trauma free
I recommend not believing in the gun in the situations as if someone planned it you would have zero reaction ability, however i definitely recommend taking mma and specifically wrestling and jui jitsu to give you a severe advantage if this situation did occur ❤
Never ever let them take you to a second location! I told my husband and family they would have to kill me or Id get away before I go to a second location.
Fhe Kidnapping story is ABSOLUTELY INSANE!!!! Oh my! That's traumatising. That relationship would be so over because all things aside, that was STUPID!
Idk if this is an unpopular opinion or not, but I find it extremely disrespectful and disturbing to talk to other people about sex with your partner. I don't talk about that stuff with my girl friends. I would hate that so much. No way. I've also had exs share my nudes with their friends, and it was the most horrifying and embarrassing thing that has happened to me. I was also a minor and the friends were over 18. It should not be normalized at all.
I'm so upset over story 3. My entire body is shaking uncontrollably. I have experience with this from my own narc parent abducting me from school against a court order, but the thought of a stranger doing this has me spiraling. The trauma remebering my own experience when I was too young to even understand is unbearable, but to be a full grown adult put through that? For a PROPOSAL? I'd be filing multiple restraining orders. I'd catch a felony. Words don't describe my anger. those 'friends' deserve 10+ years in prison for that. This is almost every woman's worst fear because it happens SO OFTEN. And yea, SA as well. Poor OP..
The update for the 1st story is crazy, but spot on. Wife was going to rehab, how verbal with op. And the friend sent a video of his ex cheating with someone else saying that he is replaceable. So damn sorry for op.
Yes! Makes me think they were not ready. Just going off what that said. Like sure first time might not last very long or might be a bit awkward but it shouldn't be painful. That screams to me that you're so anxious you can't get in the mood. Like I was a month off turning 17. It was quite sweet and romantic. No bleeding, no pain.
For story 3, I assume the reason someone asked if her BF is from Kazakhstan is beacuse they mixed it up with Kyrgyzstan, because Kyrgyzstan has this weird culture of bride kidnappings. Long story short, they would literally kidnap a girl on the street, bring her to the future grooms home and have the women of his family convince the woman to marry him. The woman could literally be a stranger or someone he knows - it depends, but it is very traumatizing and many girls committed suicide after being forced into a marriage like this. Now, I am not an expert - I am talking based off of one or two videos I stumbled upon about this (VICE has an interesting and disturbing video about this). Though after looking a bit more, seems that this happens in Kazakhstan too - so the commenter was on to something... Either way, incredibly disgusting and traumatizing.
If it truly is you, I just wanted to say I cried so much at your story. I think it's wonderful she was able to feel comforted and loved before passing and agree it is so sad she wasn't given better in this life, I hope she has found better in the afterlife 🩷🥲
I lost my virginity at 22 with my first real boyfriend and it was amazing. He made sure I was okay at every step, was very gentle and asked what I wanted and what felt good. There was no pain and no blood and it felt incredible. I think it 100% depends on your partner and your age
I think the one about the socks is the counter story to the girlfriend's story about her boyfriend replacing all of her fun socks and some were gifts or unique socks that are hard to find now. It was more of a collection/ investment on her part.
@Brianna McClusky it also sucks because she wore them for hey patients to cheer them up or break the ice. I forget her position in the medical field but it's a difficult one and the socks helped cheer up her patients!
Yeah, I have socks like that and I would be devastated if someone threw all of them away! Novelty socks are not cheap, I have hundreds of dollars in novelty socks that I've collected since middleschool. Some of them are irreplaceable.
Okay, "how are we going to fight the patriarchy if we have a stomach ache" is so brilliant on so many levels for my homosexual, IBS having ass. I love Hannah 😂 Edit: Hannah needs to be a regular guest. I adore her episodes.
As a runner, and just as a woman...I am so appalled at the behavior of the men who was acquaintances with the boyfriend. I hope OP heals, in whatever capacity she needs
For story 5, I do have to say that personally everything about disembodied hair makes me physically sick. I get nauseous and gag violently if even one of my own stray hairs is on me or gets in my mouth. I shaved a friends legs once as a teen (using lotion as shave cream) and that was barely tolerable. I dropped the towel I was wiping the razor on so many times because I touched the hairy lotion spots. I also have no issue with pubic hair (I do get upset if hair gets in my mouth, but it’s part of that dance and as long as I get it out quick enough I can continue just fine) but it would be an ENTIRELY different ask of me to shave someone. Not because pubic hair is disgusting but because all disembodied hair is. I do still think that guy is a controlling freakazoid but I can genuinely relate to not being comfortable shaving someone at all and not because of their “nasty disgusting pubic hair” Edited to say I’m not hating or trying to be mean, just trying to offer an alternate viewpoint
THANK YOU! I'm autistic and there are a lot of things that gross me out for no reason. I constantly need to explain myself to people and I felt very triggered when I heard the message of "if you love her you would" in this episode because no, I wouldn't. I would not go outside of my comfort zone, put a lot of stress on myself and then have nightmares of things that trigger me for something that is not necessary (which is how relationships work, each partner should respect the other one and if someone feels uncomfortable with doing something unnecessary they shouldn't do it periodt). The conversation would be different if my partner injured themselves and couldn't do some things like wash themselves or go to a bathroom though.
Same here! I love my long hair. I love body hair on myself and other people! I personally find it more attractive than being shaved. But hair that isn’t attached to someone is just really gross to me. I have one of those hair catchers in my shower and cleaning my own hair off of it is one of the most disgusting things I have to do. I’d rather clean up my dog’s shit than clean stray, wet hairs. I can’t even handle stray hairs on my bed and floor, so I vacuum my room religiously.
The guy who didn’t want to shave his wife’s pubes… he’s clearly okay with her and eats it 😂😂 he just doesn’t want to shave her I feel like that’s totally fair and an $8000 allowance you can just go get the wax … at the same time if he can afford to provide this 8000 allowance he can afford a $50-100 spa day for his wife to make her comfortable. Everyone sucks lol
The VCard one- The biggest issue is age. If they were older it would be less of an issue, but there are HIGH risks of people finding out that information and making it in issue. It takes one other person knowing to spread it like wildfire and have parents or teachers know and it makes a girl's life HELL at that age. He should've used more braincells
Legal age for things such as consensual sex varies with place. More importantly, if she lives with her parents she can easily get kicked out for that. If she's at school she can easily get mocked and slut shamed for that
Ok thank you I was baffled and no one is talking about it, no one should leak nudes or show them without the senders consent, doesn’t matter their gender!!!
GAH! ❤️🥺Last story had me sobbing in my car heading home from work. Such a sad situation for her, but that man is an Angel for being there and giving her that experience before she passed. And he attended the funeral 😭What a bittersweet, yet beautiful story.
For that second story, if you tell your friends about it, that’s fine. I just totally understand why a high schooler would almost feel like their boyfriend was basically treating this important step that was deeply personal as a joke. I could see how she could think that it almost feels like he was only with her to have sex for the first time and reach some sort of manly accomplishment.
also them posting it, even if its to 8 people for example, they can then share it to their friends and then that multiplies, he basically shared something intimate to a lot a people that she didn't consent to. This is very different from sharing it with friends so I think she is justified in wanting to break up with him, hopefully he learns to be careful if not she could also be worried about any future events that happen, will he tell his friends and will they post it as well?
on story 6: cmon girls, guys can have ick too.. maybe it’s one of his, and maybe when the time comes he’ll change his mind. admit it, us girls have weirder icks and walks away freely
Just to throw it out there you don't need to break your hymen during sex, even during the first time, even if it's never been broken before. Most hymens are shaped in a way where if they are relaxed enough beforehand and you work up to things they do not block at all and can remain totally intact with no bleeding.
I had to scroll so far to find someone commenting this! It's so frustrating that we get so little education about our own bodies as women/AFAB people that misconceptions like this are so rampant! For most people, as long as you're "warmed up" enough beforehand, it shouldn't hurt at all!
@@whossoul No, but saying no to shaving someone else's body or paying for a spa day doesn't either. There might be more we're missing from this story that would make him the asshole, but just from the story it would seem like this couple is just really bad at communicating their needs, expectations and boundaries.
Just because it was a “proposal that failed” doesn’t mean it invalidates what happened to her and I’m thankful you guys brought that up she was sexually assaulted and she will forever have trauma from that now she will second guess anyone’s intentions and find it hard to do a lot of stuff which she may not realise yet
morgan you aren’t alone in the fart fear, my sister & her man have been together for about 14 years & she is honestly the WORST for this fear. she’s never farted nor talked about her bowel movements around her man & will become ANGRY from embarrassment if you mention it in front of him, i learned after the one time i said something. i could almost put money on the fact that she’ll never be open about this in front of him. OH & she definitely agrees on how your body learns their schedule, she 100% has talked about that before & it cracks me up
Story 5# he sounds awful but isn’t the ass hole. She gets an 8k monthly allowance ass in he’s already paying for her lifestyle, and she’s living a pretty luxurious lifestyle if she doesn’t work and has a house keeper. So I don’t see a single reason why he should give even more than 8,000 a month for personal experiences
Anyone else remember a sock story told from the girlfriends POV where she had collected the socks and they brought her a ton of joy and the boyf threw them out! Maybe heard it somewhere else but I bet this was the same couple
I take it back, all the red flags warped my read on the situation. He can have set his boundary and be the AH in the second situation at the same time. 5th story: I can understand having aversions to things like mis-matched socks or shaving hair, it's specifically how he's communicating this stuff, like they're not boundaries he's asking to be respected, he's making them edicts she has to obey. He's very "do you even like your partner".
How is saying "I won't shave your pubic hair or give you more than $8,000 this month" an edict and not a boundary? There might be more we're missing here that would make her request for more money reasonable, but if someone says no to shaving you I think it's a pretty reasonable boundary.
My hubby shaved me one time while pregnant and bitter said never again. For him he was scared to cut me and hurt me and for me it just wasn't like when I shave it myself. I just ended up letting it grow out and dealing with the jungle after birth and healing. It's better to let out grow during pregnancy anyways because it is a protective barrier to keep things out.
The story about having sex while pregnant was kind of funny. It was just one of those hypothetical “what if I was..” moments but I don’t think it’s the worse thing in the world. If he’s uncomfortable having sex with you while pregnant you can’t like force or pressure him to do that. And there may not be like some deep, nefarious reason. It may be just the thought of a baby in you makes him panic the way pregnancy/babies can make people panic. It may be a silly irrational thing, and maybe he doesn’t understand the body and pregnancy as much as she does but irrational thoughts have a real reaction on the body. So they need to decide if these are hard boundaries for each of them or if they can compromise. Though I don’t really know if this is a compromise kind of situation. Like how would that look. “We won’t have intercourse but I’m gonna need a lot of oral to make up for it.”
The way you both can enthusiastically (and very genuinely) talk about peens and how you interact with them while i can barely look at one without being grossed out and absolutely hate the texture/sensations of it is really making me think im not bisexual and im just gay lmaoo 😢😅 like yall shouldve seen my face during that bit i looked like dr beaker from the Muppets ate something sour
towards the end of the podcast when morgan and hannah were talking about their partners loving them and their “”physical imperfectios”” so much i started tearing up just a little bit 😂 it was just so sweet and wholesome, so nice to hear amongst some of these more horrific stories (which were VERY entertaining). hannah was one of my absolute favorite guests when she first showed up on the pod and i’m super happy she’s back!!! great ep as always!!!!
I used to always wear socks in pairs. When my Boyfriend and I were just friends we kinda had a game with our socks. He always wore mismatched ones. We used to switch them or steal them from each other to wear them. Because of that I always had a reason to visit him so we could get each others socks back. Through that we got really close. Now we live together, share a sock drawer and I almost never wear matching socks :)
Story 3 omg if it was my man he'd kill his friends for taking it too far literally like he'd end them!!! Edit: I'm obsessed with Incredibles 2:1 CBD/THC gummies I'll have to check those ones out
For the second story: the whole trend of the v card cake started with girls actually to celebrate it because it’s a big moment. So I personally don’t think it’s necessarily a joke but more so just a congrats. The girlfriend is definitely allowed to not want their romance out there. But it’s a conversation they need to have, also I doubt the girlfriend didn’t at least mention it to her friends. Definitely not break up but an important conversation
First story: OP is NTA, sounds like he's going up and beyond. He's doing too much, the wife is being unreasonable. This had an update on his profile, she is an addict and was cheating :( Second story: I think some people prefer to have their intimate life be private, I've never shared intimate details of my partner with my friends nor do I want him doing that so I can totally understand where the gf was coming from.
Sock boy's original post was completely ridiculous, but I think G is being ridiculous this time around. I genuinely do not think he's wrong for not wanting to shave her. Regardless of what they do in bed, he's allowed to be grossed out by it. I also don't see why she's so insistent that he pays for the spa day when she could have just done it with the money he already gave her.
In regards to the story of the woman losing her virginity, what this is missing is realizing that people like this a lot of the times dont get to even experience touch, they aren’t getting cuddled, kissed, prolly not even hugged for 20 secs or longer on a stressful day. (Stuff that is just a given to a lot of people) This woman may have never even laid in bed with someone who played with her hair till she fell asleep or scratched her back. Its hard to understand if you ve never been this person or gone long stints without thoughtful touch. Its not just losing her virginity at that point. Its everything that intimacy embodies. Its the connections the real connection that sex can bring. Shes 41 and she has never had that. What that does to a person mentally and physiologically is a lot. This story made me cry. This is one of the biggest reasons why I feel so passionate about supporting sex workers. I know you guys do(: I just wanted to add the the POV
I completely disagree with the verdict of story #2. When Drew was first in this podcast her and Morgan talked about how girls talk about d1ck size and how their bfs were in bed and it was cute and fun. But now that a guy told his friends he that he lost his virginity and they joked around about it he’s an a$$hole. I don’t think he did anything wrong because I guarantee his gf told her girls that they had s3x so you’re just saying girls can share intimate details while guys can’t because it makes their gf look like a “joke”. But when girls compare d1ck sizes it’s fair game. Idc it seems like a double standard it was harmless and fun. Also don’t infantilize her. Like this isn’t a big deal oh my god
You start right but go wrong at the end. It's not that it's fine because it's fine when girls do it. It's actually wrong when anyone does it. When Morgan said women discuss all that I thought talk for yourself. Yes the gf may have told her friends but I assure you they didn't fucking post it publicly. It is never okay to violate your partner's privacy and consent, as happened on episodes like that
First story - I am a sahm with a active and supportive partner but I do the line share of the caretaking because 1. I am home all day with the baby 2. If he doesn’t work we don’t eat lol
Updates for the 1st story AITA for cutting back on work to prove a point to my wife? and story 3 "My BF's friends pretended to kidnap me for a proposal" have been posted on the THT instagram page... I'm at a loss for words on them..
I believe it never came to the US because politicians deemed it as a“too torturous/cruel and unusual self defense device” 🫠
I messaged the OP of the first story. Hopefully he and his kids will get to a safer place, both physically and mentally.
Can you guys add the updates to your Instagram highlights if possible! I’m a bit late to the video and want to see :,)
Does anyone have the link of the story 2 update, I absolutely can’t find it 😢?
Where is the update for story 1 can't find it
The r@pe-prevention insert was made for the highest SA areas of Africa and the biggest thing about them is they come out and stay attached to the r@pist so they can be identified, because they'll need to get hospital help to get it back off. It allowed for protection and prosecution. It is still in common usage in some areas of the world, which lowered attacks in those regions. The woman who designed it deserves a Nobel prize.
💯 this
You could also (in theory) write your name on it so the doctor could file the report
Theres only one problem with this if it comes to the us imagine you have a woman whos very much a man hater or a vindictive person who uses it to disfigure men
Where can I get one
@@RiahYannaBeans might be an online thing again stay safe out there
hahaha “how are we gonna fight the patriarchy if you have a stomachache”
I loved that, too! 😂 And even better finding you already made the comment! 😁💞
morgan, i think this needs to be merch, i would 100% buy it
Time stamp? 👀
@@Imjustkendall21:09
So I just checked, and HOLY MOLY, the first OP has a 4 part saga on his profile. To sum it up, after part 1, the original, it comes out in an argument that OP's wife has been using drugs and that her friend who got her to hate OP was her dealer. Part 3 is him forcing her to go to rehab at the threat of taking full custody of the kids (of which the two oldest are his stepsons). Even after part 3, he was hopeful they could still recover and be a happy family... Uuuuntil part 4 when her dealer friend sent OP a video of the wife dancing/ grinding on a guy that OP would describe as an ugly hick. The friend wasn't being a homie either. She was letting OP know that he was replaceable. It ends with him contacting a lawyer and being grateful that his parents made him sign a prenup with what he felt was an "inhumane cheating clause."
Oh my GOD! “Updates and Do-Overs Part 2” anyone?? 👀
OMG!!!!
OK I just saw a different comment saying the same things and how the wife was on drugs and I literally thought “I wonder if the friend got her into it” and here we are
LINK IT PLEASE! 🫶🏻
This guy is a saint - taking care of his child and stepsons, cleaning, working, cooking... I hope he finds someone great
That first story goes alot deeper. He made another post in r/advice after finding out she was using drugs and then later finding out she was cheating.
Holy crap that's how I feel even worse for him
OMG cheating with the friend or another man?
@Social Noob it wasn't specified last I checked in on his story.
Link it!
Annnnnnd there it is. Theres always something deeper going on.
First story- OPs wife is SO entitled and I love how he handled this. He provided everything she needed. To be appalled over his attitude around this is utter nonsense
Yesss like there’s no “grey” in it she’s the ah full stop
Ugh! Yes, disgusting lady. Especially that I know someone like this.
If you look up the story they are done. The wife was doing drugs and cheating. Luckily he had a prenup.
@@emmahill2973 thats insane, thankfully he had that prenup fr 😭
Tbh it sounds fake as hell
As someone who has had their nudes leaked, it’s real, Morgan. I sent like 3 pics to the same guy i went to school with and he leaked them. My whole high school experience was people bringing it up, calling me names, sending them around, and more. My entire high school experience was people asking me for pics, threatening to leak them again if I didn’t, or saying they’re going to send them to my parents if they didn’t get the pics they wanted. Life was miserable. Men talk about everything and WILL show off nudes if they’re immature enough. If I can tell any young girl anything, please PLEASE do not send out nudes. If a guy is pushing you, block them, ignore them, or remove them completely from your life. You don’t need that. If you do get exposed, talk to your school! Make a report. They can get charges for child porn. It’s wrong and they need to learn the effects of their actions.
Edit: it makes me sick to my stomach that so many of us were threatened because we chose to trust someone. I’m not proud of what i did and I do agree it was very ignorant of me to do in the first place. I was dumb and naive and I haven’t made that choice in a very long time. I just hope we can teach some young girls what can happen. I’m so sorry those who commented under this went through similar situations to me. I hope everyone is well. Good luck to you all. ❤️
Oh my goodness I’m so sorry that happened to you 😔 geez some people are just awful..
If they get charges for child porn so can the person who sent it in the first place. Making and distributing it is a crime as well
Had the same exact experience in high school. Moved far far away from that place after I turned 18. I hope you have found healing and peace after what those assholes did to you 💗 sending you love, support and solidarity
There was a boy I was in love with ever since we were kids and he knew. When we were in our young teens, he gave me attention for a couple of weeks, begged me constantly for nudes and I ended up sending them. Thought I was safe until 3 YEARS LATER when it was discovered he had an app where he was storing a bunch of girls' nudes and was sharing them with his friends. HE LEAKED THE ENTIRE FOLDER and me with a bunch of other girls had our nudes leaked. Even though I tried to be smart and keep my face out the pictures, he was naming names and giving screenshots of our snapchat conversations (which I wasn't even notified he screenshotted - snapchat was way more glitchy back then) to prove the identities of the girls. It was traumatizing. It's very real. And I agree I hope any young girls who see this really consider it. Even if you think they're different and would never do that to you... Please just do not send child porn.
I feel this so much. I was extremely naïve, desperate for love and not knowing how to safely receive it. I sent pictures out to a couple people in school and out of school. Then all of a sudden I got flooded by messages from guys I didn't even know requesting their own personal photo. I was caught off guard because I only sent them to x, y, z, then it dawned on me that my photos are now everywhere. Been threatened numerous times, one asshole told me he released them online. I didn't even want to look it up, I was so disgusted in myself. Later I realized just how illegal and dangerous all of this is. I was so ashamed of myself when I found out. I turned my shame into anger and took this as a very hard life lesson.
I agree with everything you say; young girls/women, please be aware of how dangerous this situation is. I'm sorry to say that the person who is requesting these things, only want to use and control you. Please really think things through with feelings aside if you're ever in this situation, don't ever feel like you can't say no. No is always and forever will be an option. Don't be discouraged to tell someone, whether it be a friend or an adult. People will listen, they will believe you, they will support you.
Story 3: Someone tell me why he didn't just have the sister bring her to the engagement?!?!?!?!?! OH MY 🤬 GOD. The literal YEARS of trauma she will be left with!!!!!!
I haven't watched the whole thing but i would call the police on all of them.
@@Amanda-sp4gy Truly.
It wasn't supposed to be a fake kidnapping at all, that's not what he planned. He planned for them to give her a note
@@imaniyup7908 Oh no, I understand, but like why is he involving these random people he's only just met in this? He could have done something with just the best friend that she knew or her sister? Someone she was familiar with? Why even have this ski mask thing at all
The second story?
Holy shit. Not finished yet but this kidnapping story is fucking insane. I feel so so so bad for the boyfriend bc he didn’t want that at all.
yeahh unless he is willing to cut ties entirely with all those guys, i wouldn't give him another chance
Idk, he did want them to do part of it, and he trusted two guys who she didn't even know to do it. I don't have much sympathy for him
@@cascharles3838 exactly, just the idea itself was fucked up!
You are the company you keep...
@Ali VanSickle He wasn't friends with them, they were his bsf friends.
The sock story: I had a friend in elementary school that always wore mismatched socks, she would wear knee high socks with an ankle sock and all different colors and patterns. She passed away in a car accident when we were 12 and I've worn mismatched socks ever since in memory of her (I'm 24 now) everyone around me knows why I wear my socks mismatched sometimes and if I had my partner do that to me over my socks the relationship would be done.
That is still kidnapping. She should file charges. You can't just say it's a joke when you kidnap someone......
FR. And the fact they were TOUCHING HER INAPPROPRIATELY. Disgusting. Instant cops
@@hayamirin6795 yeah I wrote b4 that part.
@Asset80 Oh sorry I didn't mean to spoil it 😅
someone said there was an update where she filed charges and they are now engaged
Right? A "fake" kidnapping, if the victim is not in on it, is simply a kidnapping XD
Story 3- i know hind sight is 20/20 but if the best friend really felt that bad why didnt he pull over and stop the behavior when he realized she was sobbing and screaming in real fear, he was the driver he could have taken control of the situation. Press all the charges on everyone cause they deserve it
Send them all to jail.
@@JoanieBeanevery single one of them. Because he only cried when he got caught. They could have killed her to keep her quiet if they thought they could get away with it. Literally SA’d her smh throw them under the garbage can under the jail
The second story feels like a true NAH. Boyfriend shared a detail about his life with his friends. The friends, seemingly without prompting bought him a cake to be a funny joke among friends. Boyfriend posted it to a very small group of people, not thinking anything of it. Girlfriend communicated she wasn't comfortable with it. With a lot of culture still being very purity focused for young girls but 'go out get laid' focused for guys, it makes sense that he's confortable sharing they had sex and she isn't. Boyfriend apologized and took the post down immediately. He did something that upset her without realizing it, she communicated that, he remedied the situation. Perfectly handled
Yeh I agree. My thinking was this is his life too. Like he can't be happy about losing his virginity? I get if she was worried about people finding out especially if strict parents are involved but he was just happy and only shared it with people who likely already knew.
Think the issue is the post. Maybe send it to her first. But what is annoying is most girls talk too much about their stuff too so 🤷🏽♂️ w/e he probably should have assumed ppl were thinking maybe they are maybe they not but he ousted them both with that. Especially if her friends saw it. But stop posting shit
3rd story update: short update due to legal reasons, she had many conversations with her now fiancé. One of the guys apologized & told her he was on the spectrum. She wasn’t sure if she was going to press charges but in the edit she says pressing charges would be for the best
sounds like he’s trying to justify his shitty “prank” and not have charges pressed against him because he’s “on the spectrum”, he knew what he was doing and had been touching her inappropriately. No weaseling out of that mister. I hope OP presses charges against him still regardless 😭😭 Thank you for the update ❤
Avoiding accountability with an insincere apology, he’s not apologizing because he’s sorry. He’s apologizing to save his ass, OP’s bf should cut off both morons and support his fiancé in taking both men to court.
Jesus. Yknow 99.9% of autistic people go through life having never kidnapped or groped someone, the fact he thinks that's an excuse is crazy
I know plenty of people on the spectrum and none of them would ever simulate a kidnapping as a ”prank”
(Edited for spelling)
That's absolutely not an excuse for kidnap and assault. I SO hope she presses charges, but it is her journey. I would bet anything that guy uses this excuse to get away with a lot. Paige Layle is an autistic content creator that did a video on this exact issue. It's insulting to the community because it's assuming they cannot understand right from wrong, when they absolutely do. A lot of stalkers are actually on the spectrum.
Nothing like just saying your autistic to get out of things lol.
The Last Story: of a lonely terminal lady. It’s SO wholesome. *She* most likely wanted to feel a man’s arms around her (not just sxx). She wanted to feel a semblance of love + compassion. And she got thE right guy TG. What a gift.
That last story made me cry so much. Sometimes I think I'm lonely and then I hear about people like this who truly have no one, and it's one thing when you're young, but when you're older it's harder to make connections and, frankly, harder for people to care about you. I'm glad he chose to befriend her rather than just treat her as another client.
Just hit the 36 minute mark and when she said "I really wish she would have murdered one of them" it made me CACKLE. That whole situation was so wild and stupid and I completely agree that if that would have happened they would have been deserving. Super traumatic and I hope she's okay.
literally i would absolutely have unleashed years of pent up rage like how is that a joke
''How are you gonna fight the patriarchy when you hve a stomachache??'' Great quote
That should be made into merch 😂
Last story - come on guys he is a professional! I’m sure her first time was better than what you think lol! 😂😂 It was a bucket list item she checked off three times!
Right lmao im pretty sure it was amazing 😂
Also, not all of us have painful/uncomfortable/bloody first times. 🤷♀️
@@victorywalkingtours8843this! For me there was no pain or blood. It's definitely different for everyone
Story 5: I personally think that its fine if he doesn’t want to shave her and if he’s already giving her money for herself, then why wouldn’t she pay for it? Especially since she wants to be hair free down there, not him
I agree he never sais he minded the hair and i hated the petty if he got cancer i wouldnt back him up tf that doesnt compare and thats a boundry he said he wont do she has alotof money she shouldgo and book herself a wax
@@marisoldelatorre2046 exactly
Thank you! I was stunned which she was making him shave her like that is a boundary he is trying to set and he does not want to pay because he gives her money to do the thing she wants not needs and she does not need to be shaved
yeah! I was shocked at their takes on it
@@e.ghetti6710 yeah it’s like they talk so much about boundaries but when it’s mens boundaries they don’t matter. I would not want to shave my man’s balls either bc I have a disgust of loose shavings. I can’t even stand beard shavings in the sink. It’s objectively different.
"Its his boundaries " "yeah, but its not that bad" ok, but its that bad for him. We gotta respect people's boundaries
Okay so about a comment made by Morgan on story 2, similar to ones she’s made in previous episodes: I, personally, find it a little weird to tell your friends about a partner’s penis size and details like that, especially if it’s a committed relationship (rather than a one night stand). I hope this doesn’t come off as judgemental, everyone is different, it’s just if my partner went to their friends and told them intimate details like that I’d feel incredibly uncomfortable. Everyone’s boundaries are different, of course, if your partner is chill with it then by all means. I just thought I’d put in my two cents about that…
honestly agreed. i have never felt comfortable sharing those kinds of details of my long term bf with them. now when i had one night stands and never planned on seeing the guy again, okay different. but telling my friends what my bfs dick looks like really crosses the line for me.
I honestly feel like it's disrespectful especially when you supposedly "love" that person. Ig it's a different story if they encourage u to talk abt their dick since they're proud of it but even then I'd find that odd and I'd be turned off by it. I used to think that I'd be the type to reveal stuff like dick size but when I did get into a relationship, I found it uncomfy. Cause personally I wouldn't want my partner to talk abt my 😺 in any way lol
I also found it disgusting how her friend believes that "all men show off nudes." My friends and I have almost all had partners send us photos, and the idea of showing something like that to each other is disgusting. We all agree that's a HUGE invasion of privacy, so to hear "Yeah all men disrespect their partners," is such a horrible take.
As a woman, same! I'd neither share nor wanna hear all that about my friends' partners.
Dont send nudes! But if you do: don't include your face, or any identifying marks or tattoos, and put a watermark (a hidden letter or number)on the photo, and a note of what watermark was sent to who. Then if you ever are leaked, you can sue them ❤
This is so smart oh my god.
wow thanks for that! i wonder if that applies in uk law
“Everyone gets shot nowadays” I can’t with Hannah 😂 so dark but so funny in the most nonchalant way. I love her !
First Story: If you want a "traditional man" who makes all the money, then you have to be a "traditional woman" and take care of the house and kids. You can't have your traditional man and expect him to also be the housewife.
right. he COULD do some work, but her staying at home all day every day gives her time to do more than him
@@kaitlynmorgan4613 and he was already doing half the chores, probably more than most husbands who work
This is so incredibly toxic and outdated to say. Yes, one parent can work outside the house and should still contribute to the house and be an active parent to their kids. A stay at home parents job shouldn't last 24/7 just cause they aren't getting paid for it. If they don't get off at 5pm the other parent shouldn't be "off" at 5pm. Your job as a parent never ends. If you aren't going to keep being a parent even when you're off your paying Jon them you aren't a parent, you're a walking paycheck who's kids are 100% going to resent you and go no contact once they turn 18
Preach girl
@@whossoulnobody said that being a “traditional man” doesn’t include doing some chores and interacting with the kids. It does. I agree with the first comment, you can’t expect someone to work a 9-5 and do most of the chores.
Story 6: I feel like it’s a double standard, if the woman was uncomfortable having sex while pregnant and the man was upset it would be a big no. Woman or man, in a relationship or not you should be able to discuss whatever sexual boundaries you want. Honestly I didn’t get the impression he would stop being attracted to her during or after pregnancy.
Yes yes yes 🙏🙏🙏🙏 I came here looking for this comment.
Same
My boyfriend of 2.5 years buzzed my pubes for me because we were going to the lake with his parents and I was scared of hurting myself with his buzzer, didn’t hesitate and even said we’re just closer now. I don’t know how you wouldn’t want to help your partner out, especially when they physically can’t do it themselves
When I was 17, my now husband, then boyfriend, helped me shave because I was complaining that it was very hard to do it myself 😂
Exactly. I haven’t needed my man to do it for me but ik he would and I’d shave him. We talked about wiping each others butts if one of us was injured lol.
My husband has done the same multiple times, has delivered one of our babies, was hands on in the birth of our twins, weak men have weak genetics and aren't worth reproducing and parenting with lol
My husband helped me shave when I was pregnant, and was also involved in the room when I was in labor. 😂 I love that your bf did that for you, it’s so sweet.
See this is my pov too, but honestly if she’s getting 8k a month as pocket money and he has set the boundary of not wanting to do it she can 100% afford to pay for her own wax with the money he is giving her.
I went 4 years between sexual partners once. It really felt like I lost my virginity again when I finally had sex. Just putting it out there😮😂
Two consenting adults having sex?!? Nothing wrong with that. Just because she has cancer doesn’t mean she doesn’t want sex or can’t consent. People with cancer are humans, with all the “normal” needs & emotions humans have. Do what makes you happy!
“Keep it in your own locker rooms” is a good analogy. Girl talk is a thing; guy talk is a thing. But it’s when we find out about each other’s talk that feelings get hurt 🤣
Yeah guy talk is very different with most things theres no elaboration usually one word answers if any
It seems like alot of the girls IK use the assumption that guys talk about this stuff in order to do so with their friends
So for the third story they didn't just kidnap her, the one assaulted her... I hope they press charges against them. I have a feeling one or both of them definitely had that kink. They sound dangerous and I wouldn't be surprised if either of them have SA'd someone before.
Story #3 made me cry. I can't imagine what she went through. Those friends (yes, all of them, even the "best friend") deserve jail time. Wtf
Story 5: Personally, I don’t think I would want to shave someone else or have someone shave me. I only do it to myself because the hair makes me a little insecure about it. But, I think he should pay for the spa day as a compromise. She is clean shaven and he doesn’t have to do it.
but what about the 8k he gave her
Why should he have to pay for it when he isn’t the one with the problem. He already gives her all that money if she wants something done she can do it with that.
I’ve shaved my boyfriends back for him, but if he asked me to shave his ass? 😅😅😅😅
As a 32 yo chick, I am VERY uncomfortable talking about anything related to sex with friends or anyone other than my partner. I haven't known many women who do talk about details especially size. Maybe it's just me......
Hannah and Morgan is the combo. I didn’t know I NEEDED
Swear! I squealed when this popped up!
Literal best!
Stories 4 and 5 have inspired me to never ignore red flags ever again 😭
Literally. Like if she saw that first story she probably would have walked
Third story: WTF!! I feel so bad for the boyfriend because he did not plan that, and i truly didn’t believe he agree to that plan!! If they would have her the letter it wouldn’t have went like this i don’t think it was a bad idea, IT WAS JUST POORLY EXECUTED!! But i feel so sorry for op bc i can’t imagine that happening to me! So traumatic
Same. It doesn't even sound like it he wanted it to be a kidnapping since the plan was to hand her a note and she go willingly. I'm also getting the feeling that the masks and gloves weren't a part of the original plan either.
Yeah this sounds like someone from his friend group either got their wires crossed or had a weird fetish they wanted to live out.
i'd have to have him completely drop every single one of those friends before considering continuing to have him in my life though, because how can you be friends with someone who does that??
Even his child hood friend, he didnt say anything??? she was screaming and crying the whole time and he didnt stop the car or even once say "hey its me" like WHAT
@@lunniebunnie oh for sure his childhood friend is EQUALLY responsible, he could 100% hear everything that was happening and regardless of him saying afterwards that he tried to diffuse the situation HE NEVER STOPPED. He could have immediately pulled over the moment he HEARD her genuine fear, its telling to an extent of him enjoying it for continuing to directly enable them for the entire length of the drive.
I wouldn’t be surprised if those two “friends” that were holding her down, have SA someone else. So disgusting. Hope OP is doing better and getting the help she needs. And men, proposing using a scary scenario is not cute, romantic or a good idea at all.
Edit to add:
In Mexico back in the day “stealing the bride” used to be a thing. However, it would bring a lot of shame to the family if it happened. More often than not, the women wanted to returned home, but they were forced to marry their kidnappers. I have heard many stories. One of them, the boyfriend took her girlfriend after she went to church. Sadly, he had taken her twin sister and was forced to marry her. That was the story of my Spanish teacher’s grandmother. They had planned to runaway together, but she was told to stay to help with chores and her sister went to mass. The sister tried to tell him it wasn’t her, but he didn’t listen thinking that she had changed her mind…
if a man asked to watch a movie at home and PAINT MY NAILS????? i would marry him wtf
god, hannah seems great but makes me so uncomfortable. all the generalizations about men and women, the misinformation about hymens, acting like sex cant be amazing for people with vulvas… idk, it all rubs me the wrong way.
Sex workers are such therapists it is such emotional labor. He provided an essential service for her. ❤
EXCELLENT TAKE 1:24:14
Petition to add Hannah to the rotating guest list! I found myself screaming something like "It's your pregnant wife you fuck!" followed up by Hannah saying that exactly.
Same!!! When he said "they're just socks" I was like "if they're just socks why are you acting like that!!" And right after she said the same lol
Just got through the kidnapping story. I live in West Virginia. I’m a 115 pound, 5’3” 23year old. I’ve gone to multiple self defense firearms training courses, and if a group of men hopped out of a car and tried to abduct me, I would do everything in my power to make sure they would not be walking away from the situation. There are so many crazy things that happen to “weak and defenseless” people these days, and I will absolutely do anything I can to make sure I will never be a victim again.
Literally if that was me they would have literally gotten shot. There are bra holsters. Perfect for running.
That and theres alot of different firearms that are small and compact enough to carry either in a holster or purse women have every right to be protected this kind of thing is not okay he should have stuck with a traditional proposal safe and trauma free
I recommend not believing in the gun in the situations as if someone planned it you would have zero reaction ability, however i definitely recommend taking mma and specifically wrestling and jui jitsu to give you a severe advantage if this situation did occur ❤
Never ever let them take you to a second location! I told my husband and family they would have to kill me or Id get away before I go to a second location.
Fhe Kidnapping story is ABSOLUTELY INSANE!!!!
Oh my! That's traumatising. That relationship would be so over because all things aside, that was STUPID!
Idk if this is an unpopular opinion or not, but I find it extremely disrespectful and disturbing to talk to other people about sex with your partner. I don't talk about that stuff with my girl friends.
I would hate that so much. No way. I've also had exs share my nudes with their friends, and it was the most horrifying and embarrassing thing that has happened to me. I was also a minor and the friends were over 18. It should not be normalized at all.
Thank you
The para-social relationship is hitting SO HARD with this episode. ❤ wishing I find a bestie like you guys one day
same!
I'm so upset over story 3. My entire body is shaking uncontrollably. I have experience with this from my own narc parent abducting me from school against a court order, but the thought of a stranger doing this has me spiraling. The trauma remebering my own experience when I was too young to even understand is unbearable, but to be a full grown adult put through that? For a PROPOSAL? I'd be filing multiple restraining orders. I'd catch a felony. Words don't describe my anger. those 'friends' deserve 10+ years in prison for that. This is almost every woman's worst fear because it happens SO OFTEN. And yea, SA as well. Poor OP..
I am absolutely FLABBERGASTED by the 3rd story. OP if you ever see this comment. PRESS CHARGES.
The update for the 1st story is crazy, but spot on. Wife was going to rehab, how verbal with op. And the friend sent a video of his ex cheating with someone else saying that he is replaceable. So damn sorry for op.
Note on the last story: losing your virginity does NOT need to be painful.
Right?? Especially since he is a professional. He knows what he’s doing and how to make someone feel comfortable and safe.
Yes! Makes me think they were not ready. Just going off what that said. Like sure first time might not last very long or might be a bit awkward but it shouldn't be painful. That screams to me that you're so anxious you can't get in the mood. Like I was a month off turning 17. It was quite sweet and romantic. No bleeding, no pain.
I DIED LAUGHING at *bitch you've been an orchestra all night* 😂😂😂
For story 3, I assume the reason someone asked if her BF is from Kazakhstan is beacuse they mixed it up with Kyrgyzstan, because Kyrgyzstan has this weird culture of bride kidnappings. Long story short, they would literally kidnap a girl on the street, bring her to the future grooms home and have the women of his family convince the woman to marry him. The woman could literally be a stranger or someone he knows - it depends, but it is very traumatizing and many girls committed suicide after being forced into a marriage like this. Now, I am not an expert - I am talking based off of one or two videos I stumbled upon about this (VICE has an interesting and disturbing video about this). Though after looking a bit more, seems that this happens in Kazakhstan too - so the commenter was on to something... Either way, incredibly disgusting and traumatizing.
AHHH SO EXCITED TO HAVE HANNAH BACK!!
Wow I am so sorry for story #3… my heart was racing just listening. AWFUL those people are trash that is not okay
Hi there! Its OP from the last story. Crazy to see that my story made it to Two Hot Takes. I love your podcast.
If it truly is you, I just wanted to say I cried so much at your story. I think it's wonderful she was able to feel comforted and loved before passing and agree it is so sad she wasn't given better in this life, I hope she has found better in the afterlife 🩷🥲
please just have hannah as your co-host for every episode because i am obsessed
I lost my virginity at 22 with my first real boyfriend and it was amazing. He made sure I was okay at every step, was very gentle and asked what I wanted and what felt good. There was no pain and no blood and it felt incredible. I think it 100% depends on your partner and your age
Same! People should really just speak for themselves and not others 🙃
It's also not good to bleed. It means that it was too rough or you weren't lubricated enough and since our sex Ed is so poor people don't know.this
I think the one about the socks is the counter story to the girlfriend's story about her boyfriend replacing all of her fun socks and some were gifts or unique socks that are hard to find now. It was more of a collection/ investment on her part.
I've been scrolling for someone else to think that too!
@Brianna McClusky it also sucks because she wore them for hey patients to cheer them up or break the ice. I forget her position in the medical field but it's a difficult one and the socks helped cheer up her patients!
Yeah, I have socks like that and I would be devastated if someone threw all of them away! Novelty socks are not cheap, I have hundreds of dollars in novelty socks that I've collected since middleschool. Some of them are irreplaceable.
Can we get better at the actual story time stamps?
Okay, "how are we going to fight the patriarchy if we have a stomach ache" is so brilliant on so many levels for my homosexual, IBS having ass. I love Hannah 😂
Edit: Hannah needs to be a regular guest. I adore her episodes.
First story - Update she was cheating!
As a runner, and just as a woman...I am so appalled at the behavior of the men who was acquaintances with the boyfriend. I hope OP heals, in whatever capacity she needs
For story 5, I do have to say that personally everything about disembodied hair makes me physically sick. I get nauseous and gag violently if even one of my own stray hairs is on me or gets in my mouth. I shaved a friends legs once as a teen (using lotion as shave cream) and that was barely tolerable. I dropped the towel I was wiping the razor on so many times because I touched the hairy lotion spots. I also have no issue with pubic hair (I do get upset if hair gets in my mouth, but it’s part of that dance and as long as I get it out quick enough I can continue just fine) but it would be an ENTIRELY different ask of me to shave someone. Not because pubic hair is disgusting but because all disembodied hair is. I do still think that guy is a controlling freakazoid but I can genuinely relate to not being comfortable shaving someone at all and not because of their “nasty disgusting pubic hair”
Edited to say I’m not hating or trying to be mean, just trying to offer an alternate viewpoint
THANK YOU!
I'm autistic and there are a lot of things that gross me out for no reason. I constantly need to explain myself to people and I felt very triggered when I heard the message of "if you love her you would" in this episode because no, I wouldn't. I would not go outside of my comfort zone, put a lot of stress on myself and then have nightmares of things that trigger me for something that is not necessary (which is how relationships work, each partner should respect the other one and if someone feels uncomfortable with doing something unnecessary they shouldn't do it periodt). The conversation would be different if my partner injured themselves and couldn't do some things like wash themselves or go to a bathroom though.
Same here! I love my long hair. I love body hair on myself and other people! I personally find it more attractive than being shaved. But hair that isn’t attached to someone is just really gross to me.
I have one of those hair catchers in my shower and cleaning my own hair off of it is one of the most disgusting things I have to do. I’d rather clean up my dog’s shit than clean stray, wet hairs. I can’t even handle stray hairs on my bed and floor, so I vacuum my room religiously.
The guy who didn’t want to shave his wife’s pubes… he’s clearly okay with her and eats it 😂😂 he just doesn’t want to shave her I feel like that’s totally fair and an $8000 allowance you can just go get the wax … at the same time if he can afford to provide this 8000 allowance he can afford a $50-100 spa day for his wife to make her comfortable. Everyone sucks lol
The VCard one- The biggest issue is age. If they were older it would be less of an issue, but there are HIGH risks of people finding out that information and making it in issue. It takes one other person knowing to spread it like wildfire and have parents or teachers know and it makes a girl's life HELL at that age. He should've used more braincells
Aren’t they both 18?
Legal age for things such as consensual sex varies with place. More importantly, if she lives with her parents she can easily get kicked out for that. If she's at school she can easily get mocked and slut shamed for that
@@alysonnataliavasquezsolano8066 yeah its not about the age of consent, its about social/family issues
@@amandareed4689 aka school age
20:17 ??????????????? what????? am i crazy is or is that like… not okay??
It's not okay. Like, at all.
Ok thank you I was baffled and no one is talking about it, no one should leak nudes or show them without the senders consent, doesn’t matter their gender!!!
@@iwbee I’m surprised no one else in the comments called it out. I’m not at all surprised that Morgan didn’t.
same, i’m so baffled too!! like wtf
GAH! ❤️🥺Last story had me sobbing in my car heading home from work. Such a sad situation for her, but that man is an Angel for being there and giving her that experience before she passed. And he attended the funeral 😭What a bittersweet, yet beautiful story.
Story 3 has me bawling my eyes out. I came only imagine the fear she felt. That woman will never be the same joke or not.
For that second story, if you tell your friends about it, that’s fine. I just totally understand why a high schooler would almost feel like their boyfriend was basically treating this important step that was deeply personal as a joke. I could see how she could think that it almost feels like he was only with her to have sex for the first time and reach some sort of manly accomplishment.
also them posting it, even if its to 8 people for example, they can then share it to their friends and then that multiplies, he basically shared something intimate to a lot a people that she didn't consent to. This is very different from sharing it with friends so I think she is justified in wanting to break up with him, hopefully he learns to be careful if not she could also be worried about any future events that happen, will he tell his friends and will they post it as well?
I disagree on the shaving story, she has so much money that her options are endless. I feel like this is also a power struggle on her end.
on story 6: cmon girls, guys can have ick too.. maybe it’s one of his, and maybe when the time comes he’ll change his mind. admit it, us girls have weirder icks and walks away freely
Just to throw it out there you don't need to break your hymen during sex, even during the first time, even if it's never been broken before. Most hymens are shaped in a way where if they are relaxed enough beforehand and you work up to things they do not block at all and can remain totally intact with no bleeding.
I had to scroll so far to find someone commenting this! It's so frustrating that we get so little education about our own bodies as women/AFAB people that misconceptions like this are so rampant! For most people, as long as you're "warmed up" enough beforehand, it shouldn't hurt at all!
@@meggokappopeople seem to think your vagina is sealed before sex and that you need to break the seal to get in.
Story 5 is insane. This husband is paying his wife almost $100k A YEAR just for shits and gigs and somehow he’s the asshole? 🤦🏾
exactly
Money doesn't make you not an asshole.
@@whossoul No, but saying no to shaving someone else's body or paying for a spa day doesn't either. There might be more we're missing from this story that would make him the asshole, but just from the story it would seem like this couple is just really bad at communicating their needs, expectations and boundaries.
@SouthernBell86 it's probably because he also threw away all her socks previously.
First story OP updated, the wife was cheating and the friend and her were doing drugs. He's divorcing her.
Damn good for him
i am SO HYPED for this guest!!! yes morgan go off on the planning & effort & organization 💖😩🤞🏼🥰
Story 3: PRESS CHARGES. 10000000% that is so disgusting. I gasped. I would’ve called the cops the second I got my phone again wtf! Oml
More Hannah please! You both have great chemistry and are hilarious together!! 🫶
Just because it was a “proposal that failed” doesn’t mean it invalidates what happened to her and I’m thankful you guys brought that up she was sexually assaulted and she will forever have trauma from that now she will second guess anyone’s intentions and find it hard to do a lot of stuff which she may not realise yet
morgan you aren’t alone in the fart fear, my sister & her man have been together for about 14 years & she is honestly the WORST for this fear. she’s never farted nor talked about her bowel movements around her man & will become ANGRY from embarrassment if you mention it in front of him, i learned after the one time i said something. i could almost put money on the fact that she’ll never be open about this in front of him. OH & she definitely agrees on how your body learns their schedule, she 100% has talked about that before & it cracks me up
Story 5# he sounds awful but isn’t the ass hole. She gets an 8k monthly allowance ass in he’s already paying for her lifestyle, and she’s living a pretty luxurious lifestyle if she doesn’t work and has a house keeper. So I don’t see a single reason why he should give even more than 8,000 a month for personal experiences
Additionally his boundaries are still boundaries, even if they don’t make sense to you.
Anyone else remember a sock story told from the girlfriends POV where she had collected the socks and they brought her a ton of joy and the boyf threw them out! Maybe heard it somewhere else but I bet this was the same couple
Just taking note that Morgan mentioned a trip to minnesota this summer with a potential live show.
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"How are we going to fight the patriarchy if we have a stomach ache?!" need this on a t-shirt asap 😂 (20:14)
There was an update 24 days ago on the proposal kidnapping story! She stayed with him and they are now engaged.
Omg really? I'm trying to find the story on reddit now
Are they pressing charges against the assholes?
I take it back, all the red flags warped my read on the situation. He can have set his boundary and be the AH in the second situation at the same time.
5th story: I can understand having aversions to things like mis-matched socks or shaving hair, it's specifically how he's communicating this stuff, like they're not boundaries he's asking to be respected, he's making them edicts she has to obey. He's very "do you even like your partner".
How is saying "I won't shave your pubic hair or give you more than $8,000 this month" an edict and not a boundary?
There might be more we're missing here that would make her request for more money reasonable, but if someone says no to shaving you I think it's a pretty reasonable boundary.
“Long finger nail, gel nail, French manicure” 😂
My hubby shaved me one time while pregnant and bitter said never again. For him he was scared to cut me and hurt me and for me it just wasn't like when I shave it myself. I just ended up letting it grow out and dealing with the jungle after birth and healing. It's better to let out grow during pregnancy anyways because it is a protective barrier to keep things out.
The story about having sex while pregnant was kind of funny. It was just one of those hypothetical “what if I was..” moments but I don’t think it’s the worse thing in the world. If he’s uncomfortable having sex with you while pregnant you can’t like force or pressure him to do that. And there may not be like some deep, nefarious reason. It may be just the thought of a baby in you makes him panic the way pregnancy/babies can make people panic. It may be a silly irrational thing, and maybe he doesn’t understand the body and pregnancy as much as she does but irrational thoughts have a real reaction on the body.
So they need to decide if these are hard boundaries for each of them or if they can compromise. Though I don’t really know if this is a compromise kind of situation. Like how would that look. “We won’t have intercourse but I’m gonna need a lot of oral to make up for it.”
The way you both can enthusiastically (and very genuinely) talk about peens and how you interact with them while i can barely look at one without being grossed out and absolutely hate the texture/sensations of it is really making me think im not bisexual and im just gay lmaoo 😢😅 like yall shouldve seen my face during that bit i looked like dr beaker from the Muppets ate something sour
Hahahaha
towards the end of the podcast when morgan and hannah were talking about their partners loving them and their “”physical imperfectios”” so much i started tearing up just a little bit 😂 it was just so sweet and wholesome, so nice to hear amongst some of these more horrific stories (which were VERY entertaining). hannah was one of my absolute favorite guests when she first showed up on the pod and i’m super happy she’s back!!! great ep as always!!!!
I used to always wear socks in pairs. When my Boyfriend and I were just friends we kinda had a game with our socks. He always wore mismatched ones. We used to switch them or steal them from each other to wear them. Because of that I always had a reason to visit him so we could get each others socks back.
Through that we got really close. Now we live together, share a sock drawer and I almost never wear matching socks :)
Hope this is not to hard to read, english is not my first language.
Story 3 omg if it was my man he'd kill his friends for taking it too far literally like he'd end them!!! Edit: I'm obsessed with Incredibles 2:1 CBD/THC gummies I'll have to check those ones out
My fiancé would do the same.
For the second story: the whole trend of the v card cake started with girls actually to celebrate it because it’s a big moment. So I personally don’t think it’s necessarily a joke but more so just a congrats. The girlfriend is definitely allowed to not want their romance out there. But it’s a conversation they need to have, also I doubt the girlfriend didn’t at least mention it to her friends. Definitely not break up but an important conversation
“Maybe she’s born with it, maybe it’s adderall” MORGAN PLS💀
Just as I’m getting into work for a shift! I love this 🎉
First story: OP is NTA, sounds like he's going up and beyond. He's doing too much, the wife is being unreasonable. This had an update on his profile, she is an addict and was cheating :(
Second story: I think some people prefer to have their intimate life be private, I've never shared intimate details of my partner with my friends nor do I want him doing that so I can totally understand where the gf was coming from.
thank youuuu, both takes i completely agree with. perfect comment. Also so sad for the first OP, he didnt deserve that
Sock boy's original post was completely ridiculous, but I think G is being ridiculous this time around. I genuinely do not think he's wrong for not wanting to shave her. Regardless of what they do in bed, he's allowed to be grossed out by it. I also don't see why she's so insistent that he pays for the spa day when she could have just done it with the money he already gave her.
In regards to the story of the woman losing her virginity, what this is missing is realizing that people like this a lot of the times dont get to even experience touch, they aren’t getting cuddled, kissed, prolly not even hugged for 20 secs or longer on a stressful day. (Stuff that is just a given to a lot of people) This woman may have never even laid in bed with someone who played with her hair till she fell asleep or scratched her back.
Its hard to understand if you ve never been this person or gone long stints without thoughtful touch.
Its not just losing her virginity at that point. Its everything that intimacy embodies.
Its the connections the real connection that sex can bring.
Shes 41 and she has never had that.
What that does to a person mentally and physiologically is a lot.
This story made me cry.
This is one of the biggest reasons why I feel so passionate about supporting sex workers.
I know you guys do(:
I just wanted to add the the POV
That moment at 14:09 between Morgan and Hannah was my favorite part of the episode lol
I completely disagree with the verdict of story #2. When Drew was first in this podcast her and Morgan talked about how girls talk about d1ck size and how their bfs were in bed and it was cute and fun. But now that a guy told his friends he that he lost his virginity and they joked around about it he’s an a$$hole. I don’t think he did anything wrong because I guarantee his gf told her girls that they had s3x so you’re just saying girls can share intimate details while guys can’t because it makes their gf look like a “joke”. But when girls compare d1ck sizes it’s fair game. Idc it seems like a double standard it was harmless and fun. Also don’t infantilize her. Like this isn’t a big deal oh my god
I agree. Details about ur SO genitals is weird and a double standard.
You start right but go wrong at the end. It's not that it's fine because it's fine when girls do it. It's actually wrong when anyone does it. When Morgan said women discuss all that I thought talk for yourself. Yes the gf may have told her friends but I assure you they didn't fucking post it publicly. It is never okay to violate your partner's privacy and consent, as happened on episodes like that
First story -
I am a sahm with a active and supportive partner but I do the line share of the caretaking because 1. I am home all day with the baby 2. If he doesn’t work we don’t eat lol
Story 5 -
My husband has shaved my vagina on multiple occasions with me not being pregnant 😂