Frothing at the Mouth Ft. Michaela Okland & Ellie Schnitt || Two Hot Takes Podcast || Reddit Stories
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Two Hot Takes host, Morgan, is joined by guest co-hosts Ellie Schnitt & Michaela Okland!! This weeks episode has us getting a little bothered, a little frothy at the mouth, over what these stories are about. From being asked to help someone one week postpartum to your friend dropping a bomb on you two weeks before your wedding.. we had some big feelings. Thoughts on these ones?!
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Index:
00:00 -- Start
03:16 -- Story 1
15:58 -- Story 2
32:58 -- Story 3
48:41 -- Story 4
01:00:28 -- Story 5
01:23:19 -- Story 6
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Story 1 - guy should have his blue belt revoked. The higher belts are supposed to know EVEN MORE SO how to not injure a newbie. That’s why they pair white belts with higher belts - to AVOID injuries.
Exactly!!! I did martial arts as a really little kid, and I was always even smaller for my age. I would always get paired to spar with someone older and more experienced bc they know how to be careful rather than someone bigger than me in my age group and level who didn’t have that control.
Exactly! Where I went the higher belts only let themselves go all out against eachother, like they've broken each other's ribs all in good fun according to themselves but with the students they tap to show strikes. When they were showing me how to spar I kept getting tapped gently while they kept insisting "You have to learn how to punch so hit me, you won't hurt me."
I never managed to hurt one of them (slippery suckers dodge EVERYTHING) but when I finally landed a punch that left a bruise on the black belt he was so proud we had to take a picture to commemorate the occasion lol
Thank you. I train in martial arts, and I have for 8 years, and this has NEVER happened before
"I wanted to show her how fast things go in real combat" and my dude is surprised if real combat consequences follow? Big failure on the teacher's part there too, control is the biggest lesson you should learn
right!!!!!!
Story 1: the reason why women leave the class had gone right over his head. His gf is a prime example of why they leave the class. OP forced his gf into an unsafe place for women. Shame on him.
I got so mad at this story, I'm 80% convinced it was a rage bait post.
Amen
The second he said “Women usually leave our gym” I thought “why?”
Waiting for this to end up on r/AmITheEx
As a woman in BJJ, there is a responsibility of the person to choose your training partner wisely. HOWEVER this dude was “showing how quickly things happen” no I don’t believe it. You don’t just quickly snap someone’s arm, you’re trying to retrain them make them submit, NOT HURT YOUR PARTNER.
@@jessicatew3295 and he didn't even give her a chance to tap out, it was VERY intentional
My boyfriend is a BJJ nerd and he trains. I had him listen to the first story and he said “they’re absolutely right, you don’t break someone’s arm by accident.” He also said that if this happened to me, there’s be a guaranteed fistfight between him and the dude that fucked up my arm. He’s appalled. “Fuck this guy” is his biggest remark.
You're dating a king!! His response is perfect.
What a perfect response cuz that literally sounds crazy
I can't imagine someone breaking my arm (even by "accident" because no one should be being that rough with me) and my husband not get pissed. It could be his best friend let alone some guy at a BJJ place.
I wonder if there was any legal action she could take?
As someone whos taken mutilple kinds of jujitsu, you gotta be pretty fucking careless to break someone's arm practicing. You have to ease people in to learn anything so rough
Edit: 1st commenter was spot on. A blue belt that did that to a beginner would be a disgrace to any school that was worth its salt.
I have judo as my P.E. course in University, which obviously isn't the same but still a little similar and the first thing our teacher told us is if you are a person with experience in judo or similar sports than practicing with sb equal to you or take it easy on them, because lessons are to learn not recklessly injure sb and honestly it seemed like a no brainer to me, so I imagine a blue belt would be aware of that.
Your poor dog. It's not a loss of 5 years. You dated somebody for 5 years who turned out to be trash. It happens. Get. Rid. Don't look back.
@@fralanasko2900I think you mightve posted this in the wrong spot friend
Right!!!! Tge biggest red flag is "women join but they always leave"
Wait, does that include BRAZILIAN jujitsu? Because BRAZILIAN jujitsu is a contact sport ;)
the “ooh woman job. i know woman. woman near me.” @19:30 was exactly my thought
The comment that called op selfish for not helping clearly didn’t hear that she ALSO has a one week old baby😑😑 don’t know how people miss that lol
That was hilarious!
Story 3 blew my mind! Regardless if it was the blanket, the drugs or a combination. The dog was death for TWO HOURS! When my dog has a tummy ache, I'm checking on him every 10 minutes! She putting the blanket and then going on about her day is neglectful AF
That story broke my heart. Poor baby unable to move or call for help. He must've been so uncomfortable. She sounds so dangerous.
This! I barely sleep if my dog is slightly not behaving like his goofy self...I know something is off. Until he's back to goofy way I don't sleep right nothing else matters.
I have a frenchton with massive Boston energy 😊
@@Joey_b3722 Baby boy 😍 I have a tiny Maltese Chihuahua mix.
And same. I remember this one night he had a little bit of cough or backward sneezing (more than usual), and I literally woke up every 30 minutes to check he was still breathing. I get so concerned whenever he is just a bit unwell and not his happy self. I cannot get inside the mind of someone who would just let a dog suffocate, even if it was not on purpose.
And she also paid enough attention to know he looked "weird" yet didn't go over and check on him?? So fucking wild. She can't be anything but an idiot. He's better off without that dumbass in his life. Honestly he's just as much of an idiot for even considering getting back together with her. That person would literally be dead to me. It's one thing if she accidentally killed the dog. It's another thing that 2 hours later she still didn't know he was dead. What if they have children someday? Will she leave it under a blanket and forget about it for 2 hours??
I don’t think I’d be asking for advice on whether or not to get back with her i’d be asking for legal advice because i’d have committed a misdemeanor, possibly a felony if my partner did that to my dog
Story one: a perfect illustration of “if they dont respect you they can’t protect you.” They might love you more than anyone ever. They might be invested. But they won’t believe you, and they won’t keep you safe.
Maybe OP’s logic for being so adamant about the jiu jitsu is “well i’m not going to protect her”😬
Well, he just made sure she will never join in that sport ever again. Way to go bud! You encouraged her and pressured her into doing a sport you enjoy and now because you pressured her into going when you were not present, some idiot tried to be a big shot and showed everyone how much of an egotistical jerk he is by breaking her arm. If they stayed together, she should make sure he has to go do a hobby she likes regardless of whether he wants to or not…because we all know he won’t do anything she’s interested in!
@@YoongisRapin I think his intentions here are besides the point, because a lack of respect means they're never going to take the time to listen to what you are saying when they are wrong. I think it's a matter of humility.
What the actual hell???? She broke her ARM?!? Why is OP so clueless.
he's so awful! kept convincing her to stay in the class and for what?? leave her alone !
as that point i feel he’s choosing to be clueless because he doesn’t want to be wrong
Also SHE didn’t break her arm, that blue belt guy broke her arm. Let’s put the responsibility where it belongs.
@@laleona1221 absolutely
Honestly though like even if it was an accident how are you giving this guy a second of benefit of the doubt how are you not losing it on this guy a guy accidentally(it was an accident but definitely a preventable one) broke my little brothers arm once it’s been at least 10 years now and my mom still talks about that man like he’s the scum of the earth
Story 3: your not even supposed to put weighted blankets on animals regardless of being on meds.
This, there is even a warning on most weighted blanket packaging to not use on pets!! There is a rule of thumb, 1. lbs per 10 lbs… 10lbs blanket for a 100lbs person.
This story is just so so sad.
This story broke my heart. I can't imagine how uncomfortable the poor dog must have felt under that blanket and being unable to move or call for help. So distressing. I'd never speak to her again.
That’s all I kept thinking about. I feel the drugs mixed with the weighted blanket probably did it. Like imagine being on strong medication where you can’t even move and someone putting a weight that’s more than you on your chest. You wouldn’t be able to breathe
Dead by blanket feels like a new unlocked phobia
Also Morgan, when your airway is closed you cannot make sound. So most suffocations and drownings are relatively silent.
story 3: okay i asked my mom who has been a vet tech for like 20+ years, 400mg of gabapentin in a day for a 27 pound dog is on the high side but is perfectly fine and normal. she also said it’s very hard for a dog to overdose on it. so i find it very hard to believe it was the meds
My sister and I are vet techs and we discussed this and your mom is 100% correct. Very sad.
What did she say about the possibility of the weighted blanket killing the dog?
@@Sallylilly1812 she said it’s definitely possible. gabapentin also makes dogs drowsy/lethargic especially in such a high dose so it would be that much harder for the dog to try to get the blanket off of itself
Yup! I’m a vet tech and worked at pet poison control for years. Your mom is 100% correct!
My step sis whos been a vet tech for 10 yrs said otherwise, it was a combo of both. Gab probably made him too lethargic to try to move when the blanket was on top of him.
Story 3: a weighted blanked is not suppose to weigh as much as you/your dog does. Mine only weights ⅛ of my Overall weight.
Literally. To put things into perspective, say you are 110 lbs. If you were the dog, and the weighted blanket weighed 2 lbs less than your entire body weight, that'd be like experiencing at LEAST 108 lbs at once ON YOUR DIAPHRAGM. There is no way that wasn't on purpose
@@mxngos7493i also feel like there’s no way that wasn’t on purpose because if your pet is on gabapentin you should KNOW how drowsy/sluggish it makes them. my pup was recently on it for a neck injury and he barely wanted to stand up after his dose. so there’s no way the dog could’ve got itself out from under the blanket. she had to have known what she was doing.
@@salemmdean Agreed! My own dog is around 25 lbs. There is NO way I'd ever let my dog under that blanket in NORMAL circumstances-- but ESPECIALLY because of the high dosage!!
@@mxngos7493personally I feel she was dumb and didn’t mean to do it. But now she’s playing dumb out of guilt. Like if you say or do something wrong and instead of wanting to admit to it out of guilt or embarrassment. You just deny and deny. Which I get if small things but killing a dog. Accidentally or not. You’re a terrible person.
@@layladavis02 I mean, its possible she was dumb and didn't mean to do it... but likely? I feel like its pretty obvious that anything 2 lbs less than something else's body weight would crush them when you place it on their diapraghm.
But I agree, doubling down on it is the worst thing she could've done. Killing a dog by accident is terrible, but doesn't make you a terrible person. Refusing to own up to it and denying it for years afterward is what made her a terrible person in my eyes.
Not only would they expect that mom to do that other woman’s house chores he’d probably expect her to do theirs too and she JUST had a baby which is a serious medical event. It’s crazy!
Literally it's like asking someone who had appendicitis and their appendix taken out to go and do a bunch of things for someone who had their appendix burst. Just because one is "worse" than the other doesn't mean she is capable of doing all that to begin with!!!
Why isn’t the husband takin care of his own house chores for his wife and like the girls mentioned pre making meals and such.
It’s so insulting to ask a women who is ALSO healing from the horrors of pregnancy to care for another women and her baby. She’s a mother not a fucking maid.
It’s WILD…its wild to ask but as someone who also has played the middle man before I might ask my wife but I would say you totally don’t have to because obviously you just had a baby too. I feel like story’s like this is part of why America ( where I’m from and I assume is where these people are from.) needs to do better when it comes to paid leave for family’s. We need better paid maternity leave at most businesses and paid time off for the Dad too. I took about 6 months off work after having our baby. My work helped me save up my PTO and o was part of a paid leave pool. I work for a nonprofit and if your part of the paid leave pool people who have a lot of PTO that they don’t use can donate their PTO for you. I am blessed to work for a tremendous company with amazing staff some of which didn’t even know me.
My husband works for target distribution center and though the pay is pretty good I think they could treat their employees a lot better. If the nonprofit I work for can give everyone a gift card for Christmas and other bonuses than certainly a rich ass company like target could do better however the thing they did that I most definitely loved was give my husband a month of paternity leave. They obviously give the women having the baby more time off but generally they give the Dad atleast a month. If they have enough PTO saved up they can take more time but unfortunately my husband was only able to take off an extra week after the month was over. I’m so grateful that he got to be there for that month it was magical. Unfortunately when he went back to work he had to work overtime due to the season so he was working three 12 hour shifts and two 10 hours shifts not including drive time. He still helped whenever he could but we definitely missed him because we went from seeing him everyday to barely at all. I hope my long ramblings make sense.
The guy that broke the arm just wanted an excuse to hurt a woman. You’d have to have 0 self control to go full force into a move. I used to spar in a different martial art and no black belts were trying to pummel me.
I hope the op grows a backbone or gis girlfriend leaves him. I would have filed a complaint against the guy at the local department
Story Number 2 the moment he said “you’re already doing stuff” I would have gone ballistic.
You know what? You’re right, it’s kind of ridiculous for me to be doing all this a week after having a baby. How about you and your friend both step up instead?
I would have been at my sister’s house so fucking quick.
I’m over here yelling “WHERE ARE THESE FATHERS” 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
@@envymordecai4429 smoking weed while their bleeding wives cook for them, that's where
@@envymordecai4429I heard this the other day on another channel and I said where are their mothers? Don’t most newly delivered women have their moms come to help while the dads are at work? The other woman’s husband should have requested more time off work to help his wife. He has some extenuating circumstances that his employer should approve time off. But these crappy dads don’t want to ask for time off cause they don’t want to have to take care of the children and wife. They want the easy life where they pressure their wives into being stay at home wives/moms, so dinner’s on the table when they walk in the door and the house to be spotless…but then call them lazy when they couldn’t do any housework because they have 2 children to care for all day. Expect everything, but won’t lift a finger to help their wife in the evenings or weekends.
@@envymordecai4429maybe theyre off together somewhere, mayhaps they have a lovely little art room.
In all seriousness tho, i know they have jobs but do they simply vanish once theyre off the clock? And why is the other dude not taking time off to help his poor wife, she almost died, I feel like that would be worthy of some kind of short term caregiver leave. Granted I live in Canada where that is a thing, so i dont know if thats an option for him, but he's not even trying. He just outsourced his husband/parent duties to his friends wife that he barely knows.
Story 1 he said he wanted them to do it together as to why he wanted her at HIS gym but yet encouraged her to go by herself 🙄
yesss, from the start he was like, let's find something to do together, let's just do MY thing...
That’s what I thought too.. why did he push her to go without him if it was actually a thing they could do together? And then why couldn’t she go to the all womens gym in that case??
Already pissed at story #1 😂 My husband and I own a Jiu jitsu gym. For one, it sounds like it all happened so fast that she didn’t have time to tap out. Which that alone tells me it was on purpose. Also, she’s a beginner. He should have been going slow and teaching. He definitely knew his own strength and the force it takes to injure someone. Crazy.
Story 5 sounds like a early 2000s hallmark movie where a toxic couple that is on a break make non-serious a bet, the guy starts to fall in love with the main girl, and than the best friend is feeling toxic and angry so she unleashed hell.
The story sounds fake
Literally I was like this is a movie plot
The second story makes me so grateful for my husband. After I gave birth, my husband changed almost every diaper for the four weeks he had off. He cooked for me, did laundry, made sure my water was always full with ice, and stayed up most nights holding our daughter because she wouldn't sleep in the bassinet. I truly couldn't have survived without him. I can't imagine having someone ask you to care for someone else when you are going through so much yourself. I hope that husband takes a good look at himself in the mirror and becomes a better person for his family.
And I'm sure he wouldn't trade that time for anything. ❤
And I’m sure he’s not doing that thinking he’s doing more than you or you owe him anything rather he’s doing it to thank you for what you’ve given him and knowing your body is healing from the hardest thing a person can do. Glad you have an amazing husband by your side❤️
So as a former jujutsoka who practiced with guys twice my size AND am hypermobile, I NEVER got injured even when being tossed around by blue end brown belts! The BF in the first story is out of his mind! If you break dobeojew arm by accident you don't deserbe that beir level sibce you dom't know what you're doing!
Notice how the guy in the first story wrote “SHE broke HER arm.” Why is he putting the blame on her?
GOOD CATCH 😮
damn didn’t even catch that 😮😮😮😮😮
Story 3: choking/ suffocating absolutely happens silently. You’re almost not considered chocking or suffocating if you’re able to make noise of any kind. That means air is getting in and out of your lungs. Suffocating or choking is when 0 air is able to get in and it happens FAST. Especially with a smaller animal or child. Lack of oxygen to the brain will kill you very quickly
Story 5: Lucy is a hater. Go date my friend and if it works I’ll know you’re serious. Wtf does that mean?? But he should’ve told her that Lucy and he dated. That’s weird!
The comment about women investing in a mans hobbys but not the other way around hit me like a ton of bricks. Its so true!!!
Watch melanie hamlette on here, she will open your eyes a lot😂
I want to validate “how would this person treat my children”. It’s not weird whatsoever to have this consideration! I wish I had… because my abusive ex husband now has 50/50 custody of my little girl and it breaks my heart. Had I put that in the forefront over my desire to be a mom I would’ve saved her a lot of trauma probably.
Story 2, speaking of PPD, if she is struggling with the aftereffects of a hysterectomy and the loss of having more children, imagine having another woman who also just had a baby, come into your home and do all the "womanly" tasks instead of you. I can just feel the depressive spiral of uselessness and insecurity she might feel. There is no way that having basically a replacement mom come in is the right option here.
What else can they do? He obviously can’t get time off bc we live in the best country in the world and it doesn’t seem like they have family near to help. It’s honestly a lose lose situation.
@Birdiee93x I don't know, I'm not him. I don't know his real options. But I imagine top of that list shouldn't be talk my neighbor colleague into convincing/guilting his wife into doing it all for him. There has to be many other things than going to a buddy at work like "Hey there neighbor, your wife also just had a baby. Can she come over and do double duty and be responsible for 4 kids including 2 barely just newborns and clean our house and take care of my wife while she is in recovery, all while she is also in recovery?" When you are put in that situation, you find a way to make it work, not make someone else make it work for you. And he's not even asking her himself he's trying to get her husband to do it since he can't seem to say no to him.
LOVE THIS TAKE. Completely agree.
@@Birdiee93x did you not listen? they said the mum and sister has come to their house once a week for months
@@jesstaylor3006 yes I did I left a comment saying I should’ve waited till the end of the story. Not that deep baby girl.
I dated a guy for a long time who did Brazilian jujitsu and his sister decided to join at one time and they paired people up that were closer to equal. I watched all the time. I think the trainer should’ve been paying attention and I think the guy was trying to show her up to get her to quit because that’s just crazy.
Or someone more experienced who knew how to be careful and take it easy on a newbie!
I'm Brazilian, i fight Muay Thai but also am often around jiu jitsu fighters. The worst one in that story is the trainer. Here HE would be the one getting penalized for letting that happen in his classes. He said the guys would be rough with his girlfriend and that is not something you do with a begginer regardless of gender. They don't know proper defense technique yet so fighting rough and using too much force is asking for an injury to happen.
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For the relationship bet story: I couldn't stay with my partner if I was in that situation. For 3 years that woman's boyfriend/fiancé was faking and pretending. For 3 years that woman's best friend was also faking and pretending. Every interaction those 2 had, I would question. They were EXE'S and OP had no idea... I would question every glance they shared, every comment or compliment they gave eachother in passing, any seemingly innocent joking... yikes!!!
I would have dropped both of them after that car ride. I have 0 none zero zip interest in a guy who has been in my friend. I would never want to date a guy who chased after my friend. The paranoia would kill me. If I asked and was then lied to hell no I'm out.
The friend sucks, the guy sucks. I would have called and said he is free you can chase him again if you want him that bad. 🤮
Right!! I agree with Michelle’s take on not believing him and not wanting to stay
the first story is already making my blood boil. theres a reason theres women only classes…example #1 the guy jn the story. a lot of men have a huge fantasy of hurting women and a martial arts class is a perfect place to do that with little to no repercussions.
That is so scary
They love their power in terms of body strength and will do anything to use it and especially humble women who think they can step up to a man’s abilities.
Story#6 hit home. My mom as well passed when I was younger (I am 1of 3 )& dad remarried later on to my stepmom who had 2 kids of her own. Yrs later they spoke to us kids on what we thought about both wanting to be buried next to my mom when they come to pass & we all loved the idea to be honest, step mom is wonderful lady whom always respected my moms memory in every way. My dad passed a year ago & was buried next to my mom as they planned & whenever my step mom gets called home she will be there as well❤
your stepmon sounds like a really good person
I'm sorry you lost both of your parents
I feel like your parents would be happy knowing such a person is there for you 😊
Story 3 - I’m by no means a professional but as far as I’m aware, people can suffocate silently. One thing I always hear about babies and children and when people choking is that if they’re silent, there could be or is an issue. And if something that weighs about your entire body weight is spread across your entire body (and possibly doubled since the blanket was folded on top of the dog too), what could it do to avoid being suffocated? The dog’s diaphragm probably couldn’t expand so it’s not out of the realm of possibility that couldn’t make any noises and it already probably couldn’t move, so it would lie there until brain death settled in.
Not only that but with that dose of gabapentin, the dog would not have been able to physically get itself up even without the blanket. As an rvt, that's a _very_ significant dose for that size dog.
@@that.ll_do_pig I appreciate the professional input! That makes the whole thing even sadder for the poor dog.
A mom of 2 here and choking is definitely silent it's when they are coughing able to make noise it means they're still getting some air. After having my first baby 11 years ago he was in his bassinet and my mom walked over to check him and he had spit up and was choking thank God she seen him at that perfect time and picked him up! My 3 year old has had a few scary choking incidents as well even with making sure everything is cut up for her. That poor dog couldn't breathe with all that weight on it and it not even being able to get the blanket off and being still under it shows it was way to heavy for it to kick it off or anything. It's crazy that lady shows no remorse even if it was a carless accident. Last year I was leaving and my sil lives across the street and her old mastiff was in her yard and my little one and I said "hi June" then we got in the truck I strapped my girl into her seat got in and started the truck and when I went to pull out I hit something and stopped! I had no clue the dog watched us get in the truck then decided to walk over and lay down in front of the truck tire😭 I felt fucking Awful when it was definitely an accident that dog has never just ran in front of vehicles and she watched us get into it plus was over in her yard when we were getting to the truck. Thankfully she made a full recovery but I still feel bad every time I think of it. So this lady not feeling an ounce of remorse is scary and that dude should definitely run!
That’s why baby blankets are so thin and small and you swaddle them, and if you don’t swaddle then they shouldn’t have them at all. Plus the painkillers slowed the dogs breathing and rate and he probably couldn’t get up. It’s also possible he went in his sleep peacefully which I like to imagine happened
I'm cracking up!!! I was so hoping you would comment on how many times he said "contact sport" lmfao
I know, right!? It was like a meme!
“Have you seen a week old baby?”
Morgan,” They look like an alien” 🤣🤣🤣
The amount of excitement I got when I saw there was a new episode is just unexplainable!!!
SAME
And the fact that I'm sooooo early!!!!
FELT!! 🎉
Not me using my job's computer to watch the episode and look like I'm working hard...
I have given birth to 3 kids and after each one there is no way at a week postpartum I would feel like going to someone's house to help them clean and take care of them. After my first child I had to get a lot of stitches (I tore badly) and at 6 days postpartum I thought I felt better so I started to clean. I ended up in a lot of pain and bleeding heavily because I over did it. The lady needs to take care of herself and her kids and not feel obligated to take care of another family.
YES!! I've given birth twice. I had relatively easy labors- minimal tearing, only a few stitches. Even still, at a week postpartum I feel AWFUL. In pain, bleeding, painful boobs from trying to figure out breastfeeding. My husband takes care of virtually all household duties when I'm freshly pp. Not bc I expect him to, but bc he's able to and he cares about me. If I was expected to take care of someone else and their house on top of my own house and myself and my kids, I would lose my shit.
This!!!! Her uterus could prolapse. She could hemorrhage. If she has stitches she could tear them. Absolutely not!
Folding a 25lb weighted blanket doesn’t make it 50lbs. No matter how you fold it the entire blanket itself only weight 25lbs (not 25lbs per each fold or per square foot, etc.). But folding it will make it feel like a bit more weight on the dog depending on how she placed it. For example, instead of only feeling 10lbs of the blanket, the dog could feel 20lbs since more of the blanket is then covering the dog. It’s hard to tell what really caused the dogs death though because applying weight to the diaphragm could make it harder to breath but that dosage of gabapentin does sound high, especially given every 2 hours… it’s usually given every 8-12 hours for dogs. I worked as a vet tech for a while and the vets never prescribed that much gaba to a dog of that size and at that frequency… I almost wonder if OP misunderstood the vets instructions.
Also, side note. When people get their pets cremated or even choose not to pick up the body, either way the pets have to go into a freezer for at least a week before cremation or disposal (hate that word, but that’s what happens if the owner doesn’t want the body back).
Thank you; as a pharmacy tech (currently at a compounding pharmacy that fills a lot of animal scripts but I’ve worked retail before too) I thought 200MG then another 200mg TWO hours later sounded insane even for a person. Gabapentin isn’t usually prescribed to take that close together; maybe twice daily, 3 times daily, four times daily in low doses for humans for seizures but I’ve never heard of “in 2 hours” spent for neuropathy. I almost think she never put a weighted blanket on the dog and either he misread the directions or whoever filled/wrote the script misread/miswrote the script as “q2h” instead of “q12h”. A weighted blanket sounds like an easy way to blame the girlfriend instead of veterinary malpractice…
Hilarious hearing them say “common sense isn’t actually common” and then not knowing things that are considered common sense 🤣
y’all doin everything you can to defend that dog murderer💀
Gave me the ick ngl, she’s a gaslighter and they just wanted to… Brush it off????? Uhhh, yeah, no.
Right! I was so mad like wtf this is pretty black and white get your head on straight
It was so weird to hear the guests say that "I feel like there's more to the story." They're making up possibilities to serve their narrative and it was really frustrating
@@Captain-si7duya sometimes they go a lil crazy with the whole man must be bad thing😂
@@matthewgaughan8063not only the fact they said it, but how every time they learned more information they still said mmm i don’t trust this guy. as if it’s not clear as day whos wrong??
Jiujitsu person here- we have a rule to NEVER arm bar white belts.
There’s a study that has shown a stay at home mom works the equivalent of 2.5 full time jobs…. I don’t have child but best believe I can imagine how hard it is!
The fact that y’all named Princess Diaries 2 and my partner just watched them both with me last week-he even came in during the second and was like “oh is this the second one?” Because he knew what was happening in the movieee and he even asks questions. I don’t watch a lot of romance movies though. Closest would probably be Dear John, which we both watched for the first time together two weeks ago. We just had our 2 year anniversary on the 8th and the progress I’ve made with this man is impressive. His ability to give me space to progress is also heartwarming. Ups and downs, a relationship does not come without. However I wish this kind of sentimental love on everyone who does not know it’s warmth. ❤
I’ve also been watching THT since last year. Love love love it. At one point the titles would match with things going on in my life 😅
In the last story about the burial. My aunt sadly passed away in 2016 due to bone cancer. My uncle is now remarried and they are planning to take the route that was mentioned in the comment. All three of them will be buried together, and I think that is so sweet
I love this option but I doubt step mom would be down for it. Hopefully op brings it up or talks about cremation and splitting the remains between his two loves
This option sounds so sweet. It really does! I hope your aunts spirit will be happy with that choice 🩵
But man if my husband remarried after my death and then buried his new wife NEXT to ME and him, I’m haunting tf out his and her family for the rest of my afterlife 🤣 now that I know this is a thing, I’m specifically putting in my Will that “no new bitch shall be buried next or near to me” 🤣
Story 1: I think it’s weird for a man to want to spar with women anyway- Like Morgan said it feels like a weird dominance thing..
In a supportive learning environment, I think an experienced and stronger peer could get a lot of joy and meaning from letting a white belt practice safely with someone bigger. Like how its fun to play catch with a kid. With power comes responsibility - and that entire room and the teacher were all freakin irresponsible
I could see myself (trans enby still scared of big men) getting so much confidence practicing with someone who was that physically intimidating - aka if i was actually oh idk - learning something.
@@MaybeTheyreBatman my oldest (now 24) was in judo from the age of 4 until she was 15. Her sensei was in his 50's & was so extremely mindful of her size, esp at 4; and never put her into an unsafe situation. Going up against her much larger, much older, sensei was a HUGE boost to her self esteem. Esp when she would successfully pin a man 3x her size & 10x+ her age.💯✌🏽
She needs to talk to a lawyer. She wasnt in a competition or anything. She was in a learning environment. Both the academy and blue belt guy should be held accountable.
I was a female on a men's wrestling team. It's not weird for men and women to compete in contact sports. It isn't okay to go that rough on a newbie no matter the gender. Weight classes were enforced so we wouldn't be in this big of a strength difference. However, we'd never do this to someone who was less skilled. The more skilled wrestlers would teach younger while knowing to back off on the force of their moves. I knew how to break people's bones they taught us what moves would do that so we knew how to not do it. Knowing enough about contact sports and arm bars this guy might not have intended to break her arm but he intended to "hurt" her. He was proving some sick point.
Morgan bringing up someone putting their cat in their freezer had me ROLLING! I think she was thinking of Angela from The Office xD
"Lineage? What is this- Pokemon?!" HILARIOUS 😂
PS. Would love a "What's your lineage?" Merch tee!!!
For the dog and the weighted blanket story- I work in pet care. Dogs will turn blue/ pale when suffocated. Their gums will go from pink/red to really pale.
Story 3- I’m a vet tech and while dogs can overdose on gabapentin depending on the situation the dose will be higher than your typical dose. Considering the circumstances this dosage seems reasonable. When it comes to the cremation if her name is on the account at the vets office she most definitely can do that. It is common for people to freeze their animals until they can get them to the crematorium/vets office (if the death happens on a weekend for example). I don’t think she purposely killed the dog but she needs to man up and accept the fact it was her negligence that killed the dog.
I feel like I’m forgetting another point but yall get the picture
Story 1: I have so many things to say, I do BJJ, and as a woman, first of all it's HARD because guys will either go too hard or too easy on you because they're scared. Women only classes are there for a reason! It's a huge red flag to me when a gym doesn't have a lot of women training or they leave. The guy who broke the gf's arm knew exactly what he was doing. No one ever rolls that hard in class, or even in competition. I don't want to get hurt or hurt others, so when you get to that point, you put a submission on slowly, so they can tap. The fact that this happened in class is really bad, especially BREAKING her arm. Also, the fact that this guy is talking about the lineage so much makes me think something about it is fake or its just full of dbags.
The lineage is basically who gave his instructor his black belt, who gave that guy their black belt, and so on, up to the original guys who started BJJ.
We had the boy mum convo with a co worker yesterday. Her son recently moved out. He lives in an apartment one floor above her! she's doing his laundry, she cooks for him, even if he doesn't come down to eat with her he'll pick it up or she'll leave it in front of his door. Me and others, different generations actually, all said his poor future gf
Story 3 - the gf sounds super manipulative and gaslighty. She doesn't want to admit fault bc she doesn't want to accept that she's the kind of negligent person that "accidentally" kills a dog. Also the guy sounds like he's got stockholm syndrome he's gotta get out of there
I really, really didn’t like the fact that she brought up how it was his fault the dog had a broken back 4 years earlier. Obviously it still weighs in his conscience, so it seems like she’s trying to pull out more guilt and apply it to this situation. She was already saying actively that this was his fault because of the medicine. Wow, layering it on!
Let’s NOT be denying toxic traits in women because that in it of itself is toxic behavior. We should never excuse toxic behavior regardless of gender or any other factor.
Yea this was a frustrating theme of the episode. Women do wrong. All the time.
Agreed. I always have a hard time when the guests have clear sexism in their responses. Could you imagine if the guest was sexist against women? I feel like more people would be speaking up.
Thank you!! I was fuming. It's also SO disrespectful to the people (all genders here) that have been treated like shit by a woman.
All genders can suck sometimes.
@@jorcolscopeople would go CRAZY if it was otherwise...
Agree!
A man will never understand what a woman goes through while pregnant and during/after childbirth! It makes me so angry!!! 🤬
So story 3 - I have sleep apnea and weighted blankets are a big no, no for us because the weight and can stop us breathing even more so a dog being that small and medicated under that blanket is 100 percent going to be squished the poor thing!
How did she not know or notice that the dog was struggling? You’d be able to see it in its face! Definitely something I couldn’t forgive.
Story 1: I love how he downplays a broken arm by saying "she got hurt" like she sprained something, or got a bruise cause she didn't break her fall correctly, when a man put her in an ARMBAR and broke her arm! This girl needs to run from this man! How did this guy not see women repeatedly leaving this gym and immediately think it was a red flag? How is he not furious at the instructor when they are supposed to supervise things? How is he not furious at the person who did this, even if it was an accident? The natural reaction of a loving partner, even in the event of an accident, would be shock, worry, anger.
Those are my exact thoughts, too, if somebody broke my partners arm in some kind of exercise, I would be furious. I would want an explanation from the person who did it and the facility where it took place. I hope that girl sues that gym and that man. Such an awful thing to do to somebody.
Story 4: I think we are over estimating the life experience and common sense of a 20 year old M. 😅😅
Story 2 “woman near me?” 🤣💀
Morgan's blues clues air horn sound has actually become a stim for me and now my friends are doing it too. 😭🤙
As a women who does MMA with grown Men TALLER, BIGGER, LARGER and more advanced then I am. None of them would be caught DEAD breaking anyone’s arm or showing the ‘real time’ how fast things can happen because we’re all here to LEARN and even my head coach strongly holds all of us to the standard of not going rough with people who may be smaller or less skilled then us. It’s RESPECT
That first guy is such a creep. He DEFINITELY got off on the fact that he was “teaching” a woman a “lesson”.
If he’s so good at JJ then he should know how to tap out. It’s a gym, not a professional school where people are training for real fights or competitive matches.
It sounds like he either liked the idea of hurting a woman or wanted to show her how big and scary men are. He knew what he was doing, no doubt
Story 1 reminded me of a guy I stopped talking to on hinge despite many aspects going great and it was because he was so adamant about me picking up his hobbies (rock climbing, going to the gym) to the point that he wanted our first date to be rock climbing, something I’ve never done before. Hearing story 1 I feel like I made a good call because it’s not off the table that he’d react like OP did if I got hurt. It feels like so many men just want to date someone for the sake of dating and have their partner squeeze themselves into their current lives
Omg something I’m knowledgeable on!! It’s specified as Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is because there’s also JJ - Jujutsu, which is Japanese. There are a few families that are prominent in BJJ, so maybe that’s what he means? That’s the ONLY thing I will defend op on though.
I took BJJ for a few years, also got to blue belt. I was 15-17, 115 pounds soaking wet and the only girl there was everyone had at LEAST 50 pounds on me. I never had an injury, because no one wanted to hurt me. They never took it easy on me, mind, but they were throwing me around like a rag doll. That’s the only way to learn!
BJJ may be a contact sport, but it’s not a raw strength sport. It’s about being dexterous, using good grips on your opponent, being quick, and most importantly being *smart*. Fuck those guys, honestly. My instructor would have thrown that blue belt out immediately if he broke anyone’s arm, much less a white belt!
Story 3: I feel like an autopsy should’ve been done so there’s a definite answer. Not saying she’s not the one that killed the dog but it’s hard to accuse when there is no factual evidence. The dog was taking medicine that could have killed him or she put the weighted blanket on him and it suffocated him. But without evidence from a place where you can know for sure or truly see inside your dog, it’s all just pointing fingers at that point.. rest in peace ♥️
I agree, I feel like there are HUGE plot holes in the story as well, the fact that Google can confirm there was too much gaba is curious, I mean vets make mistakes sometimes as well and overdose amounts are usually objective. Then the 5 minute shower vs 2 hour timeline is confusing as well
If someone dog died on my watch!! I’m apologize! Im not going to point fingers! I was. On gabapentin on top of Norco, im tiny person! 4’11 I was 115/120, I’m still here! Plus he said it wasn’t the first time his dog was prescribe that medication.
I’m confused about the cremation part because he said he cussed her out and the relationship was over, how did she have it cremated then?
I would apologize as well but I also would want to truly know if what I did was the ultimate cause of the death or not. That's just me though. @@vanessasampayan4587
Exactly. Like something isn't adding up. @@MzJamaicanBeauty12
I am 31. have an 11 year old, 3 year old with level 3 autism, and an almost 1 year old. I am stay at home mom and I homeschool while I am also in school (with a 4.0, 1 year away from law school). Stay at home moms are quite literally superheroes, but I learned that from my own.
First dude just got scared to confront people at the gym.
The way they both gasped at story 3😂😂😭😭😭
I sobbed like a small child when y'all were talking about stay at home moms, happy and insanely grateful tears. I often feel as though what we do isn't seen and/or respected and that just felt so wonderful, thank you ladies 🖤
Story number two makes me want to fight BOTH of the husbands. Having been a stay at home mom for a decade of my life, I know that people don't treat you like a person. I know it sounds dramatic, but actually is true. They think just because you don't work outside the home that you should just always be available to do whatever it is that they want you to do. They usually never even consider paying you either, because they think you have nothing better to do.
Story 4... Why is it always the moms fault? Why can't the dad be at fault? Shouldn't dads also teach their kids how to cook/store and prep food? and other life skills? Also, rice can be left out on the counter for longer than you think.
I thought of that, too
Im so confused by that story. Unless they live somewhere that’s super hot and have no AC that food should not have gotten him sick.
@@Incrediblugh ? it was overnight lol that's so bad
There is literally no reason for childcare and housework to not be 50/50. My brother in law commutes almost an hour one way for work, stays 8-10 hours while learning to essentially take over the company one day, and even though he's tired when he gets home he goes right into caring for the baby because he understands that he helped make that baby, so he needs to help out with her. He also doesn't want to have no bond with his child. People do not seem to consider the fact that if you just ignore a baby because you're too tired to deal with it you will not be a parent to that child. You're just some dude who cohabitates with their mom.
For story one, I have taken multiple jujitsu classes with friends, in friends homes, and at gyms. I myself have rolled around on the mat with people who are black belts, blue belts, and brown belts… breaking someone’s arm is so beyond reckless and careless that it should’ve never even happened. That is a very serious injury, and the higher belts are supposed to be more knowledgeable about how to avoid injuries. When I have sparred with someone who is a higher belt, like a blue or a black belt, they go very very slow, we do the same move multiple times over and over so I can get the feel, and I know how to defend myself and how to push myself out of the space where I can get injured. And then even when we do it fast, it’s after I feel confident with the move, and after I have shown that I know what I’m doing to defend myself. But the higher belts are still always careful to never go full force and to never be overly zealous with the lower belts. This should not have happened, and their gym needs some serious evaluations. The girlfriend should sue honestly because that injury DEFINITELY could have been avoided. What a poor example of sportsmanship and integrity.
“Have you seen a week old baby? Is a worm” lmfao 😂😂😂💀💀💀💀
Story 1: im a competitive muay thai athlete and injuries do happen, you sign waivers for a reason, but women leaving the gym is a RED FLAG at martial arts gyms. At my gym the men are kind and respectful and we are always mindful of size difference and experience level while sparring the opposite gender.
I've never done Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, but I do play Roller Derby which is also a full contact sport. The first things you learn in Roller Derby is how to be a safe skater, so I can't believe that it wouldn't be the same in the context of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
For Story 1:
I’ve taken karate for almost ten years and boxing for one. Both contact sports, yet I’ve never been hurt or seen anyone be hurt in my classes. “Contact” does NOT mean “aggressive contact”.
Plus, the “this is what it would be like in real life” defense is bullshit. It’s not real life, it’s a class.
I'm twelve now and I'll be Thirteen in March and I have three other siblings, One brother ten years old and two sisters that are twins that are nine years old. And my mom thirty-one year old is a stay at home mom and she homeschools ALL OF US! I got bullied a lot in school and that's one of the main reasons why we're homeschooled. I'm so blessed to have a mother like her!❤😭
36:01 I think that's how she protects herself, if she admitted out loud that she killed him, she would go into depression, it's not easy to kill someone you love by mistake
This was my thought too
She gets the consequence of losing her relationship too then. Go to therapy ffs.
@fralanasko2900 was it confirmed by the vet that she killed the dog??
I had the same thought process as well. Although I still think she is the asshole, imagine not apologizing for something like that
@@ms.tinygiant found the dog killer.
Story4:
I may be dumb but I 100% did not know the chicken and rice thing😢. Now this makes sense why I get sick at my moms
Yes rice is so dangerous because the mold is white so the rice looks normal. A guy recently died bc he does meal prep and he ate week old rice that was left out the fridge.
I love the way you have always spoken so highly about stay at home moms💗 generally our hard work and efforts go unnoticed in society, so it’s nice to feel seen and appreciated.
Me sewing as I watch this hearing you guys compliment it as a good hobby 🥹🥹
Im sewing while listening too! Except it's my job not my hobby...
Story 4 : any food containing an ingredient that requires refrigeration, not actively being cooked can be “left out” for up to four hours, depending on temperature / food / conditions
"I'm surprised at how i haven't gotten food poisoning more often." Girl, me too! I've only ever gotten food poisoning once over cinema popcorn! Given that I was today years old, when i found out you couldn't leave pizza on the counter overnight, I can't blame the guy 😂😂
Story 1: As a guy I agree with the girls the blue belt breaking her arm was absolutely an ego driven move. Guys DO want to prove they’re more capable. It’s just true. I honestly believe the blue belt man is sticking to “it was an accident” in the hopes he doesn’t get sued, and I wonder if someone at the gym talked to her boyfriend in the hopes he could convince her not to. He absolutely was using too much unnecessary force. It’s sad the boyfriend isn’t willing to look after her and validate her feelings.
It’s sad she was willing to invest her time and money into something he’s interested in despite not being interested in it herself.
I hope I never have the misfortune of developing a relationship with a women willing to break up with me for simply “texting too much” as opposed to be willing to communicate that I am. Wtf 😳
I normally never need a trigger warning but I’m grateful you gave one for the dog story. I can’t bring myself to be exposed to content like this for it usually puts me in a negative emotional state. Thanks Morgan ❤.
Just wanted to say I love your podcast and watch it every Thursday! Thanks for being you Morgan!🎉
I LOVE when Morgan references Temple Grandin! She is such an inspiration for women in agriculture! Her influence on the treatment of livestock has been a huge benefit to the industry ❤
for the last story, i get why op is so defensive of her late mother’s memory but i don’t necessarily think dad or step mom have done anything outwardly wrong or disrespectful to either party. as for the burial plot, he has been married to step mom for longer than mom. ultimately, they love each other and that choice is solely between the two of them so i don’t think he’s in the wrong at all.
The dad or OP?
Yep. The op was getting defensive about an issue that wasn't malicious in nature. Their feelings are valid but they can't lash out
@SuperJust4girls this is very true, especially if this was the first time OP said anything about the perceived slights against her late mother. Even more so if you take OP's defense position into account when reading the story. It's very easy to paint someone's actions and words as disrespectful and malicious when you look for it.
OMG YES. OP’s feelings are definitely valid but she shouldn’t be shouting at them. Cutting her father off for finding new love after having lost it and gone thru that pain is unjust. And in truth we all die alone, however I understand the symbolism behind getting buried together, it’s the love they had for each other. OP has to realize that she is the greatest symbol of her mother and father’s love and that her mother is always with her.
For the women who had the new born. I’m shook she was up walking around. I was blessed that people from my church provided me with a home cooked meal for the first 3 weeks. And the night we got out of the hospital my husband cousin had the crockpot going with food for us. We even had people create frozen meals and give us dine-in delivery gift cards. I did not cook for a solid month because we were so taken care of. No one expected me to travel to see them no one just dropped by unannounced.
It blows my mind that some people act like “oh it’s just giving birth.” Everyone even handles it differently. Some have postpartum depression or anxiety. Some have a harder time healing or stitches came open. Definitely do not expect anything but the mama chilling with her baby in bed for a while lol
I had a 60lbs weighted blanket that made me very uncomfortable to the point it was hard to move, and I am 200lbs+ 😳
I don't know if I can finish this episode. I'm only two stories in and I want to shake the people in these two stories so badly. I am physically ill with how upset it is making me
Story 5: while it happened to me in high school, so the stakes were a lot lower, I had a VERY similar situation happen to me. my boyfriend at the time dated me based on a bet for a lot of money to be paid out by his (and what I thought was also my) entire friend group at the time. the majority of them came from a lot of money, while I did not, and I genuinely thought he was interested in me and I thought I was really close with the whole group of “friends”. I didn’t find out until almost six months after we had broken up, from one of the people who was also no longer in the “friend group”, that each month was worth a certain amount of $$ and then if the guy & I made it to a year or more the pot would be worth a whole lot more. not even to mention that if he ended up taking my virginity (which he didn’t)t hat he would also get a lot of money. the bet was put in place by the guys in the group but the girls went along with it. needless to say I was messed up for a while after that. so I hope story 5 OP left both of them behind
omg that’s awful. I’m so sorry that happened to you
I was honestly kind of shocked by this episode. Usually, Morgan is very egalitarian in her thinking and can admit that people of any gender can do wrong. However, this episode was covered in sexism skewed in favor of women, largely pushed by Michaela. I really struggled with this episode. I do recognize that this is not Morgan’s fault, since she wanted to have a fun time with the guests, so some chameleon behavior is normal. But it especially came through with the “it’s hard to admit women are wrong” comment from Michaela and her handling of the entire dog story. The start of their thoughts were fine and reasonable, but as soon as she heard that the girlfriend had the dog cremated, she discounted everything she said prior simply because she couldn’t fathom that anyone can take a dead animal to get cremated. Ignorance is okay and easily remedied, but falling back on her own admitted sexism is mildly upsetting. Morgan and Ellie tried to throw her lifelines with the fact that the folded weighted blanket that is nearly the same weight as the dog it was placed on might crush it, or given the fact that it could be “a slope of bad things happening”, she found it “hard to admit” it might be the girlfriend’s fault. This is the most obvious example, but it’s spread all throughout this episode. If these stories were presented without genders, I have a hard time believing it would have happened the same way.
jesus “u can throw in the cremated dog” 😂😂😂😂😂 please i need more videos with these 2
I loved the in unison "hmmmm" at latte. 😂 Sending me this morning.
I love these two, they're fun AND super smart. A joy to listen to.
The way I squealed when I saw Michaela in the title!!! I absolutely adored her all those years back!! Both of the girls were so good!!
Ahhh yes!! Love listening to episodes on my way to work!!! New episode right before my birthday too🎉
29:41 practicing with a new puppy is sometimes a great way to tell how willing your partner will be to assist with the actual care of something that is completely dependent on you.
(Note - I’m not saying that caring for dogs and babies are the same thing, just pointing out that it’s often a decent practice run to see how your partner will respond and potentially step up (or not) as well as test your communication skills with setting expectations since having a life that is entirely dependent on you is a big deal, especially if you haven’t been together very long but are considering having kids)
It’s good preparation yes, you’re right. It’s more than just practice though, it’s the real deal whether you go on to have children or not. I don’t know what I’d even do without dogs and cats in this world!
Story 1: in my country you need to have a trainer certificate to be a trainer. Knowing a sport and being able to train people is totally different. It's like I'm an English as a foreign language teacher and just because someone is a native speaker, they wouldn't be able to do what I can.
I love these two girls the way they gasp and they’re in sync when they do it. They’re adorable.
As a Brazilian who often is around jiu jitsu and Muay Thai fighters and also went to classes... That instructor would be penalized here. He ALLOWED guys at the gym to use force on a begginer. A BEGGINER, not only that but a short girl for what i understood.
You don't use force on begginers, you teach them technique first. Using force on someone that doesn't know what they are doing or how to defend properly is asking for an injury to happen. That is NOT how you teach people these martial arts.